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TheJerseyDevil
04-10-2007, 12:55 PM
One of the Nappy Haired Ho's called him "Doug Imus".
God get this "wah wah wah" self empowering women double standard garbage off my TV.


Text: Comments of Rutgers Coach (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/business/media/11vstextcnd.html?pagewanted=3)


Text: Comments of Rutgers Coach

Published: April 10, 2007

Following is a transcript of remarks made this morning by C. Vivian Stringer, the head coach of the Rutgers women’s basketball team, at a news conference in Piscataway, N.J., as recorded by The New York Times.

Let me bring a human face to all of this. Ladies and gentlemen, people of the nation, I want you to see 10 young women who accomplished so much that we as a coaching staff, as a state university, men, women and people across this nation are so very proud of. These young ladies that you have seated before you are valedictorians of their class, future doctors, musical prodigies, and yes, even Girl Scouts. These young ladies are the best this nation has to offer and we are so very fortunate to have them here at Rutgers University.

They are young ladies of class, distinction. They are articulate. They are brilliant. They are gifted. They are God’s representatives in every sense of the word.

You see what you don’t realize perhaps some of you don’t realize that less than a year ago five of these young ladies were preparing to graduate from high school. We have five freshmen here. And as they prepared to graduate from high school they thought about what great opportunity they were going to have to come to Rutgers University and get an education and play at the highest levels. That’s what they thought.

And before you know it, less than a year, they found themselves on a national stage, playing for the world to see, basketball at its highest level. And which I might add that this freshman class has over a 3.0 grade point average.

This group of young innocent women are bright, gifted, hard working and they have persevered through much. And while all of you come to find and talk about this great story, or this story, the Don Imus story, in the translation you have lost really what this is really all about. Because you see, at the beginning of the year, we were humiliated as we lost a 40-point game right here in this arena to the No. 1 team in the country. That was followed by losses to the University of Georgia and DePaul. But through perseverance, hard work, determination, during the Christmas holidays they spent 8 to 10 hours working and going through films and studying and working so hard to become all of what they could be. And ultimately, they ended up playing for the national championship. No one believed in them but them. That’s the greatest story.

And so while they were presented before the nation as one to see and for one to realize that it doesn’t matter where you come from, but where you’re going. It doesn’t matter where you started, but how you ended, because that is the story: perseverance, hard work, determination.

This group of classy young women in all that they do have represented all of us in such a classy manner that I have nothing but pride, pride and respect for them.

You know it was amazing because less than 24 hours after they had accomplished so much and when we should have come back to Rutgers to have all people exalt and speak of all of the things that they had accomplished and all of the hopes and dreams that they gave to so many young girls and to young people and to people everywhere, all of you, about what it meant to work hard, they came back to this. We have all been physically, mentally and emotionally spent. So hurt by the remarks that were uttered by Mr. Imus.

But you see we also understood a long time ago that you know what, no one can make you feel inferior unless you allow them. That we can’t let other people steal our joy. We’ve always understood that for a long, long time.

My role as a coach is one to love, nurture, discipline, teach and prepare our young women for leadership roles in this society. And that I am sure of. In all that we do and in all the travels that we have had, this group of young women have been presented as nothing less than class in every aspect of all that they do. And while they’ve worked hard in the classroom and accomplished so much and used their gifts and talents, you know, to bring the smiles and the pride within the state in so many people, we had to experience racist and sexist remarks that are deplorable, despicable and abominable and unconscionable.

And it hurts me. Because, you know, as I was telling them, as a 16-year-old little girl, if you might I might add, I was a victim of racial discrimination. But, you see, I had a father and a mom and I had a group of people that stood up for me. You see, because we had never had a cheerleader at my school never had a minority cheerleader. And so there was a gentleman that came to my house late, after my father had come home from the coal mine. And he said to my father, he said, Buddy, your daughter was not only one of the best cheerleaders, she was clearly the best. And I had listened to this upstairs and I was nervous and I was afraid. He said, please I want to have her presented before the school board because she has excellent grades and she was not only one of the best, she was clearly the best. Why we’ve never had a minority cheerleader at this high school.

As my father approached me about this, I said no. And he said some things that would ring true to me. It was a life-altering experience. And he said to me, Vivian, if you don’t stand up for something, you’ll fall for anything. And you know what, this might not be about you or for you. But it is for future generations of young women that you need to make a stand. And I’ll leave you with that. Go to sleep and make your decision in the morning.

Well I thought, and I couldn’t sleep that night. I was so nervous. I hadn’t done anything wrong. I’d just been as good as I could possibly be. Yes, I allowed myself to be presented before the school board. And yes I was placed on the cheerleading squad. And we became the best of friends, my cheerleading friends and I. And our school was healed and there became future generations of cheerleaders and majorettes and the likes.

So as I felt what Mr. Imus said, I experienced this not only as a coach and as a mom to them but as a person who had also experienced the same kind of hurt. Yes, and I’ve cried and I’ve been angry and disappointed. Because I don’t understand all of that. And yet, to a great extent I do. I do.

Because in my mind there is time for change. You see, because it is not about these young women. The truth of the matter is that I would ask you whether you’re a businessman, whether you’re a cameraperson, whether you’re a government official or whatever who among you could have heard the comments and not been personally offended?

It’s not about the Rutgers women’s basketball team. It’s about women. Are women hos? Think about that. Would you have wanted your daughter to have been called that? It is not about they as black people or as nappy headed. It’s about us as a people, black, white, purple or green. And I want to suggest that as much as I speak about that, the truth of the matter is that it is not even black and white. The color is green. The color is green.

You see because if we can tolerate as a society what has just taken place, the remarks that have been directed toward young women I don’t know anyone could have heard this and not been personally hurt and offended.

When there is not equality for all, or when has been denied equality for one, there has been denied equality for all.

These young ladies have done nothing wrong. Some of you might point to, well, you know what, he makes comments about other political figures or other professionals. These aren’t political figures nor are they professionals. These are hard-working 18-, 19-, 20-year-old young women who came here to get an education and use their gifts for all to see.

These are the young women that little girls look up to. And we as adults, at what point in life do we not call upon people to stop, stop and reflect because there is a bigger issue here?

It’s more than the Rutgers women’s basketball team. It is all women athletes. It is all women. Have we lost a sense of our own moral fiber? Has society decayed to such a point that we can forgive and forget because, you know what, it was just a slip of the tongue?

I’m going to suggest that right-thinking people give thought before they speak. And if a person is put in a position to allow their voice voices to be heard across the air waves, those that employ them need to give thought and consideration to those people who speak for all of us. Do they speak for us?

When the parents, high school coaches, A.A.U coaches entrusted their daughters to me as a coach, I love them, I cherish them, I appreciate the privilege that I have. I am to prepare them for the world. You see because here at Rutgers University, the Scarlet Knights are just not playing basketball games. We’re preparing for life. We’re preparing for leadership roles in societies. It has never just been a basketball game here for us. It has always been about life.

And we were so excited, my coaches and I, as we sat and we called so many recruits, and their families spoke to us and they were so excited. Because you know what? They saw class. They saw this team distinguish themselves amongst all the best. Because you know what? What they saw is the same team that had suffered a 40-point loss persevere and end up beating the same team, Duke, the No. 1 team in the country, on Duke’s floor. They saw this team that heard, Well you know what? The N.C.A.A. said, Well you know what? In order for you to compete you must go to Michigan State or Michigan. Michigan State. And you’ll play before 15,000 people. If you’re that good you’ll overcome that. But this group did.

And then they said and now you’ll go to North Carolina and take on the mighty Duke if you are to get to the finals just to get an opportunity. They did, much to the amazement of the entire nation. And then as it would say on the banner, And Then There Were Four, they would play the mighty L.S.U., the team in fact that had defeated Tennessee less than a week before.

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All the pundits would say this is not possible for this group of five freshmen and five upperclassmen, of which there are no seniors. One of the players, Matee Ajavon, only joined us two months late because she had a rod placed in the middle of her leg just before the start of the season. That’s not possible. And yet they did. And then in so doing, they broke all kinds of N.C.A.A. records for defense.

They showed the world that it’s not about where you come from but where you’re going. It’s not about how you start, but how you finish.

They restored my faith and confidence. As a coach, they have given me life. I have been privileged. I honor and I respect that parents would entrust their daughters to me at such a delicate age, between 18 and 22. We as coaches have the last chance to touch these young people as they go on and point them in the right direction for society.

So I would ask all of us as adults, what is this really all about? Are we not responsible as an educational institution, as adults here, are we not responsible for nurturing their dreams and supporting them? Because it’s all too often that society is pointing at all the bad things that young people do. What happens when young people do good things and do the right things? Are we as adults responsible enough to stand up for what is right. That is what I would ask everyone.

Is there malice in my heart? No, I’m hurt. But I do recognize that this issue speaks to a bigger issue. To utter such despicable words are not right, whether spoken by black, white, purple or green, male or female, tall or short, skinny or thin, fat, whatever. It is not right. It’s time for everybody to reflect on what is going on. Oh it’s time, ladies and gentlemen. It’s been time.

And as I said to this young group of people, I’ve had the privilege of taking three teams to the Final Four. The first time I took a team was at Cheney University but I wasn’t able to experience that with great joy because my heart was heavy. My daughter was stricken with meningitis and has been confined to a wheelchair since she’s been 14 months. The second time was at the University of Iowa. My husband suddenly died through a heart attack. And that same year I was to go to a Final Four. My heart has never been light in going to a Final Four. But in coming to Rutgers, thank God, we were able to go to a Final Four in the year 2000. But we never got to the championship game.

It took me personally 25 years to come to a championship game. And for once, as I explained to my colleagues, my God, this was a team that had so little, that gave so much. This was a team that was so young. They accomplished more in one year than any team that I’ve ever seen or ever coached. This was a team that restored all of our faith and confidence in young people because they didn’t really know what hard work was about, they didn’t really know what discipline was all about. Many of them were just experiencing college life for the first time. But you know what? They grew. They matured.

They’ve always been great students. They’ve learned to work together. They were stripped of everything that they had their locker room, their clothing, until they learned to function as a team. Yes, they grew. And they became one mighty powerful group. A group of young women that I know they’re proud their parents would be so proud. And I know their parents are proud. And as I said to them, your parents have a right to be hurt and angry because they’ve made major sacrifices to give them an opportunity to come to this university.

Rutgers University has had a proud tradition for many years as being one of the highest academic universities in this country. Make no mistake about that. These young ladies get it done on both sides. And if we can’t support them, I don’t know who we support.

And I say to them, to their parents, I thank them for entrusting me with their lives. I understand the magnitude of my responsibility. And with every breath in my body I will defend them, because I am honored, I am proud, so very proud and so fortunate that the good Lord has allowed me to be a coach. That’s an awesome responsibility.

And so to my coaches and to my team, I thank them. They have no reason to drop their heads. We hold our heads high with dignity, and as my father said, with respect for ourselves. And I ask that everyone, everyone who can hear my voice, please understand that we all need to make changes. We all need to make changes. Yes, it happens to be Mr. Imus, but beyond Mr. Imus, it’s all of us.

Do we understand what’s going on in our society? And maybe these young people who taught us, you know, how to be winners on the basketball court can also serve as examples of winners in life. You know in the Bible they say, even a child shall lead. Perhaps the babes will lead. These are smart ladies. These are classy young women. These are very bright young women. And I am thankful to this university for allowing me to serve as their coach and to all of the people who have been associated with them.

And I trust that our president, our governor, our athletic director will continue to lead, support, respect, honor and defend these young ladies.



Text: Remarks of Rutgers Player (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/business/media/10cnd-rptext.html)

Text: Remarks of Rutgers Player

Published: April 10, 2007



Following is a transcript of remarks made this morning by Heather Zurich, a member of the Rutgers women’s basketball team, at a news conference in Piscataway, N.J., as recorded by The New York Times.

I’m Heather Zurich, a sophomore and proud member of the Rutgers women’s basketball team. This week and last, we should have been celebrating our accomplishments this past season.

Many of the media here may not realize my team started out the season with a record of 2-4. We were at the lowest of lows. Coach Stringer called us her worst defensive team ever. But we the 10 of us here prevailed. We fought, we persevered and most of all we believed in ourselves. We won 22 of 25 games to finish the season before falling to Tennessee in the national championship game. We won the Big East championship along the way, the first ever, and advanced to the N.C.A.A. tournament. We shocked a lot of people and arrived in Cleveland at the Final Four.

But this team did not settle for just showing up. We reached what many would only dream of, the N.C.A.A. title game. But all of our accomplishments were lost, our moment was taken away, our moment to celebrate our success, our moment to realize how far we had come both on and off the court as young women. We were stripped of this moment by the degrading comments made by Mr. Imus last Wednesday.

What hurts the most about this situation is that Mr. Imus knows not one of us personally. He doesn’t know that Matee is the funniest person you will ever meet, Kia is the big sister you never had but always wanted, and Pipf would make an unbelievable lawyer one day. These are my teammates, my family. And we were insulted, and yes we were angry. Worst of all, my team and I did nothing to deserve neither Mr. Imus’ nor Mr. McGuirk’s deplorable comments. Our families are upset and with good reason. Instead of enjoying our first day off in a month to celebrate Easter with our families, this was the topic of conversation.

The 10 of us up here attend the eighth-oldest institution of higher education in the country, and not to mention one of the most difficult academically. We are 10, simply put, student athletes. But this morning, instead of attending study hall and class, I stand here to address you about something that never should have happened.

I’m extremely proud of my teammates. I’m proud when we walk through an airport on the way to or from a road trip, dressed alike in Rutgers gear with pressed pants and nice shoes. I believe we present ourselves well, both on and off the court, even though Mr. Imus seemed to think differently.

But then again, he knows not one of us.

ginaf20697
04-10-2007, 12:57 PM
Did they at least relax their hair for the occasion?

DanaReevesLungs
04-10-2007, 12:57 PM
One of the Nappy Haired Ho's called him "Doug Imus".

And all the people calling for him to be fired don't have a fucking clue who he is or what he's done. They only know him from this one comment and base everything on it. Al Sharpton and Jess Jackson alike.

Chino Kapone
04-10-2007, 12:59 PM
i have been kinda watching it, and this is retarded. the coach went on for 20 minutes about nothing. this is a bunch of double standard bullshit.

i cant wait for the southpark episode that will surely come from this.

DanaReevesLungs
04-10-2007, 01:01 PM
i have been kinda watching it, and this is retarded. the coach went on for 20 minutes about nothing. this is a bunch of double standard bullshit.

i cant wait for the southpark episode that will surely come from this.


I hope Tawana Brawley's picture is posted everywhere when that occurs.

TheGame2024
04-10-2007, 01:04 PM
this is just a big joke to these girls... you think they really give two shits... they don't even know his name... this press conference is borderline retarded

TheJerseyDevil
04-10-2007, 01:06 PM
One of the reporters asked them if they were upset about how Rap and Hip Hop talks about women and black women and they were like "UH NUH NO U DIDNT".

ginaf20697
04-10-2007, 01:09 PM
Well we know they didn't get into Rutgers on academics. No wonder they kept these bitches locked up for so long.

NightStalker3
04-10-2007, 01:11 PM
http://www.scarletknights.com/basketball-women/roster/images/carson_e.jpg

"UH NUH NO U DIDNT".

kidconnor
04-10-2007, 01:15 PM
love to see how hurt these girls are laughing and joking with each other on stage... what a crock of sheeeet... I will be generous and say that 2 out of these 13 or so girls ever heard of imus before this happened.. grandtsanding crap..

I had no idea what the hell the coach was talking about when i first turned it on....garbage

pnigga
04-10-2007, 01:20 PM
Appearing on Sharpton's show, U.S. Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, a Michigan Democrat and chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, also raised the issue of chauvinism.

"I mean, who says 'hos' publicly?" she asked. "What is that? That is probably one of the most derogatory things any woman -- black, brown, yellow -- could even ever experience."

Maybe only white people know that rap music exists? I dunno.

Biking Mexican
04-10-2007, 01:20 PM
I looked up Rutger's graduation rates. 50% for womans basketball. I heard them talking about being students first. Stop with the student athlete,your there to play ball. If you get a diploma great, if not, none of the Revs. are going to care or be there for them.

ginaf20697
04-10-2007, 01:21 PM
I mean, who says 'hos' publicly?" she asked. "What is that? That is probably one of the most derogatory things any woman -- black, brown, yellow -- could even ever experience

Honestly they should be flattered. Most of them are too fug for anyone to want to fuck, never mind pay for the privilege.

pnigga
04-10-2007, 01:25 PM
Honestly they should be flattered. Most of them are too fug for anyone to want to fuck, never mind pay for the privilege.


Without resorting to insults about what man-looking beasts these girl are, let's focus on all of the hypocracy and lying going on. You've got a congresswoman going on a program telling people that Imus has exclusive province on the word "ho." Also, this holier than thou cunt is implying that black entertainers who throw around terms and imagery depicting everything from prostitution and violence to misogyny are somehow above the law. This is sickening.

poppAwoody
04-10-2007, 01:26 PM
lol, too much

kidconnor
04-10-2007, 01:33 PM
lol, too much


too much garbage....

weakside
04-10-2007, 01:40 PM
I am not sure why some of you have decided to attack these girls. They didn't do anything wrong. They are a bunch of college girls who played ball for their university who were forced into this debacle. Blame the media, blame the hypocritical black leaders who decided to use these issues to their advantage and in reality just want to somehow be relevant, but the girls are blameless.

pnigga
04-10-2007, 01:43 PM
I am not sure why some of you have decided to attack these girls. They didn't do anything wrong. They are a bunch of college girls who played ball for their university who were forced into this debacle. Blame the media, blame the hypocritical black leaders who decided to use these issues to their advantage and in reality just want to somehow be relevant, but the girls are blameless.

largely because those hypocritical black "leaders" have made this about everyone but the Rutgers basketball team

tstlkevanilla
04-10-2007, 01:45 PM
wow..what is America coming to that they needed to have a fucking press conference on this? I just don't get it.

Coffee Diva
04-10-2007, 01:45 PM
I am not sure why some of you have decided to attack these girls. They didn't do anything wrong. They are a bunch of college girls who played ball for their university who were forced into this debacle. Blame the media, blame the hypocritical black leaders who decided to use these issues to their advantage and in reality just want to somehow be relevant, but the girls are blameless.

They were blameless, before this press conference. Not any more.

ginaf20697
04-10-2007, 01:45 PM
Sure they are being used but you can't be used if you don't allow it to happen. Any one of them could have spoke up to the media but they didn't. It's blatantly obvious at this point that they are just enjoying being the center of attention for once.

pnigga
04-10-2007, 01:47 PM
sure sounds like someone's gearing up for a civil suit

ginaf20697
04-10-2007, 01:51 PM
Well it's not likely they're going to get rich in the WNBA.

kid afrika
04-10-2007, 02:07 PM
wow..what is America coming to that they needed to have a fucking press conference on this? I just don't get it.
Talking about it on a radio show for two days straight is nearly as ridiculous. But then, i guess they are talking more about the hubbub(sp?) surrounding it than the actual comment.

If Imus would've put the exact same statement in the paper, nobody would say shit. (Get it? 'cause black people can't read... ho! I slay me)

Seriously though, he all but quoted the movie School Daze and used vernacular from that movie.

The only people that should be offended by his comments are nappy-headed hoes.

abudabit
04-10-2007, 02:43 PM
A press conference is perfectly fine. After all, it is the Rutgers Womens Basketball team he was talking about, they should certainly have a public forum to respond. In the end this should be between them and him. It's a sad state of affairs when he appologized to Al Sharpton before he appologized to the women he trash talked.

And maybe they are stupid, doesn't make them bad people. They're jocks, what were you expecting? And not to turn into a castrated individual, but women should be angry about the way the first thing we comment on them no matter what thier role in society is thier looks. It's not like he was meeting these chicks in a bar or at a party (where shallowness first makes sense), they're a basketball team.

Imus should have appologized to the ladies and told Sharpton to go fuck himself.




They were blameless, before this press conference. Not any more.

For what?

Absolutely
04-10-2007, 04:12 PM
Oh my god, they just showed like 10 minutes of the press conference on CNN.
It was 10 minutes of the coach talking about stats about her team.
3.0s, future doctors, other random discrimination she face, etc.
Mentioned the Iman comment like once.

At least the face time will be good for recruiting

Also CNN has been going back and forth to Stringer and Rutgers and Who's the Daddy Anna Nicole Smith.
Get some real news you shitdicks. You're not Maury

Absolutely
04-10-2007, 04:21 PM
I don't care that you "shocked the world" because you started 2-4 that you reached your dreams.

Your moment wasn't lost, and you weren't stripped of any accomplishments because some radio host said something dumb.

Also one chick says "What makes the comments worse is that Imus doesnt know any one of us personally"

Meanwhile they don't know "Doug Imus" either, how can they judge him and the context he said it in? I know it was wrong to say, but c'mon get over it.

By the way, you're a fucking basketball team... quit making it seem like you just discovered the cure for AIDS, you played in a basketball tournament, you didn't do anything "Great"

kidconnor
04-10-2007, 04:37 PM
It really disgusts me. ALL of it. First off what makes it a horrible comment?

Is it the size of his audience. Some state with a large outlet in TV and Radio he has to be careful what he says.. like it would be LESS offensive the lower number of people heard it?

Is it the use of the term nappy headed?. It is widely used to describe a black persons hair. What makes it so offensive here?

Is it the use of the words Ho? If so that is ridiculous.. I will also demand Imus be fired when each and every rapper that has used that word quits the hip-hop scene.

Does the CONTEXT in which it was said count for anything?

Basically the press conference went the total opposite of what I expected. Thought a 5 min statement to be read by some school official regarding opening a dialect with Imus or something. WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT COACH BABBLING ABOUT? Love how "outraged" the girl from the bronx was when she walked up with a big smile and said in a cheerful voice "heeeey". They laughed through the whole thing...


Yes people are USING these girls for their own agenda. Did it seem to anyone else that these girls were NOT as offended as some people make it seem?

It really sickens me to watch this crap.. Bill Burr had a bit a while back about white people being afraid of the podium. Every time you say somethng against a black person you have to get behind the podium and apologize to the world and your family.. I laughed my ass off back when I first saw it.. Now..... not so funny..

Finger In Sam
04-10-2007, 05:29 PM
http://www.scarletknights.com/basketball-women/roster/images/carson_e.jpg

"UH NUH NO U DIDNT".

is that deion branch with a wig?

..oh nevermind, doesnt matter..they all look the same anyway..oh gimme those ribs, you

NorfByNorfWest
04-10-2007, 05:31 PM
I saw a part of the press conference on the teletron....that's some nappy headed hos, I'll tell you that.

davep18
04-10-2007, 07:35 PM
Sure they are being used but you can't be used if you don't allow it to happen. Any one of them could have spoke up to the media but they didn't. It's blatantly obvious at this point that they are just enjoying being the center of attention for once.

In defense of that one, they aren't allowed to speak to the media. Up until this point that is.

The whole thing stinks for everybody involved. Imus said something a bit stupid when trying to make a joke but by all accounts he's a pretty decent guy who does good things off the air. It's been totally blown out of proportion though. I don't listen to him so I wouldn't care if he was off the air in that regard but to be given no chance at forgivness is rather dumb.

The RU girls are all pretty much 18 and 19 years old. They've had some pretty major media exposure over the last month. At that age, something like this can't be easy. The girls aren't stupid, they know they're all 6'+ and except for 2 or maybe 3 of them not all that attractive. I doubt they have the confidence at this age to just brush off the comments.

It sucks that a group of good kids will get ragged on but hey, the media exposure for the program is pretty good. Who won the national title game? Who did Imus call nappy headed hos?

I almost think I sound like a hole here so I better stop. In my defense, I have a couple of degrees from Rutgers.

Anyway, F Sharpton.

Absolutely
04-11-2007, 05:51 AM
My new favorite quote from the press conference.
"I do think this meetin' will be very important for us, the university, and for the whole state of New Jersey, and do anyone who supports us"

The WHOLE STATE?

RMM46
04-11-2007, 08:01 AM
By the way, you're a fucking basketball team... quit making it seem like you just discovered the cure for AIDS, you played in a basketball tournament, you didn't do anything "Great"

Ding ding ding!!!!!

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Captain_Spaulding
04-11-2007, 01:55 PM
I don't care that you "shocked the world" because you started 2-4 that you reached your dreams.

Your moment wasn't lost, and you weren't stripped of any accomplishments because some radio host said something dumb.

Also one chick says "What makes the comments worse is that Imus doesnt know any one of us personally"

Meanwhile they don't know "Doug Imus" either, how can they judge him and the context he said it in? I know it was wrong to say, but c'mon get over it.

By the way, you're a fucking basketball team... quit making it seem like you just discovered the cure for AIDS, you played in a basketball tournament, you didn't do anything "Great"

It wasn't wrong to say.

habeasrob
04-11-2007, 06:53 PM
Seems the Rutgers Coach has her own history of inappropriate Comments

NCAA Division I Women's Basketball Committee reprimands Rutgers head coach C. Vivian Stringer

For Immediate Release
Wednesday, September 8, 2004 Contact
Scottie Rodgers
Assistant Director for the Division I Women’s Basketball Championship
317/917-6539

INDIANAPOLIS---The NCAA Division I Women’s Basketball Committee has reprimanded C. Vivian Stringer, head women’s basketball coach at Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, New Brunswick for inappropriate comments made during the first round of the 2004 NCAA Division I Women’s Basketball Championship.

Specifically, Stringer made negative comments about officiating following Rutgers’ first-round game against the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. The Division I Women’s Basketball Championship handbook states: “Members of the coaching staff or other representatives of participating institutions or conferences shall not make public statements critical of officiating in any NCAA championship event. Failure to comply with this policy may subject the individual, institution or conference to the misconduct provisions of NCAA Bylaw 31.1.10.” Per the parameters of the bylaw, the committee issued a public reprimand to Stringer for her comments.

“The committee was very disappointed in this behavior and strongly believes that this act compromised the integrity of the championship,” said Lynn Parkes, chair of the Division I Women’s Basketball Committee and associate director of athletics at the University of Memphis. “This type of action only serves to discredit the individual, Rutgers and the NCAA Division I Women’s Basketball Championship.”

PCLoadLetter
04-11-2007, 07:13 PM
"I mean, who says 'hos' publicly?" she asked. "What is that? That is probably one of the most derogatory things any woman -- black, brown, yellow -- could even ever experience."
Well, I guess that settles at least ONE point... The whole team shouldn't be involved in this, since two of them are a color that isn't listed as being affected by the word "ho". Curious, I wonder what that color is....
They were blameless, before this press conference. Not any more.
Exactly.
sure sounds like someone's gearing up for a civil suit
I'd bet my life on it.
I saw a part of the press conference on the teletron....that's some nappy headed hos, I'll tell you that.
With some absolutely CLASSIC names, too... And this is only HALF the team.
Matee Avajon
Essence Carson
Rashidat Junaid
Myia McCurdy
Epiphanny Prince (!!!)

habeasrob
04-11-2007, 07:44 PM
Apparently Coach Stringer does believe in second chances when its criminal conduct

RUTGERS IS PLAYIN' IN CRIME TIME



New York Post - New York, N.Y.
Author: Phil Mushnick
Date: Sep 26, 2004
Start Page: 064
Section: Sunday Sports
Text Word Count: 776



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(Copyright 2004, The New York Post. All Rights Reserved)
LET'S keep asking the same question. Let's keep asking it until an attorney general or two and perhaps a Senate subcommittee hearing finally gets around to asking it:

Do NCAA Div. I colleges recruit athletes knowing that they're already inclined toward criminal behavior, or does the criminal behavior of recruited athletes begin after they've arrived on campus? It's a legit question, the answer (and resolution) to which is growing more urgent. And either answer establishes far too many NCAA schools as accessories to the crimes.

Rutgers' male athletics has shown its fair share - its unfair share - of ignoble recruits. A member of last year's football team, Davon Clark, who'd already been suspended for on-campus theft, in November was indicted for murder. Police claim he was part of a Bloods vs. Crips rubout, not to mention having "a relationship" with a 15-year-old girl.

But while the school's football team has yet to show the fruits of its compromises - in recent seasons half of "New Jersey's State School" squad has been recruited from Florida - its women's basketball team is perennially rated among the best.

This week RU suspended fifth-year senior and starter Shalicia Hurns. It kinda had to.

In July, Hurns, a 6-3, 22-year-old from Indianapolis, was released from jail, at which time she pleaded guilty to charges of criminal restraint and threatening to commit murder. She'd been charged with brutalizing her off-campus roommate, a former member of RU's women's soccer team, during an ordeal alleged to have lasted five hours. Police suspect that drugs were involved.

But boys will be boys; girls will be girls.

Yet, Hurns was recruited as a bad risk, someone inclined toward criminal activity, the kind coaches so often lament as "distractions." Hurns transferred to RU early in 2002 after she'd been suspended from Purdue. In June, 2001, she was charged with driving without a license, leaving the scene of an accident and possession of a controlled substance. Not that it much matters, but she also had poor grades.

"I am a strong believer in people receiving a second chance," RU women's coach Vivian Stringer said at the time through a school spokesperson, according to New Jersey's Star-Ledger.

Couldn't agree more. But isn't it interesting how second chances for athletes - especially potential starters - are always easy to come by.

Ah, but Ms. Hurns had already blown her second chance. And her third. A week after she was arrested while at Purdue, she was arrested again, this time for underage drinking. After leaving Purdue, she entered Wabash Valley Community College, from which she was dismissed for "disciplinary reasons."

So Rutgers allowed her, minimally, her fourth chance. Why not? She was a Top 25 recruit out of high school and last year she averaged 31 minutes, eight points and six rebounds while often covering the opponents' top scorer.

The working-class and middle-class neighborhoods that surround Rutgers are loaded with high school seniors who would love to attend Rutgers. It's a relatively inexpensive school for in-staters and has a good academic reputation. But you need good grades and/or good SAT scores - generally well over 1,000 - to be admitted.

Unless, of course, you can play ball.

If you can play ball, Rutgers will come find you. Doesn't matter if you live in Indiana, Florida or Latvia. Doesn't matter if you've a criminal past and lousy grades, RU will find you and even provide you a second, third or fourth chance; whatever it takes.

And RU will give you everything - books, food, housing - for free, up to six years, all a gift from the State of New Jersey.

In my estimation, it's worse than a disgrace; it's a crime. RU should be prosecuted under federal racketeering statutes for serving as a false front in service to its athletic department.

But the line forms to the rear. If the Feds did it alphabetically, it wouldn't get to Rutgers for years. It would start with Alabama, and then Arkansas, Arizona and Arizona State.

Heck, it would take months to get to Baylor, where basketball players with bad grades and unsavory pasts were routinely recruited until last year, when one was arrested for murdering another.

[Illustration]
- RED MENACE:Davon Clark already had been suspended for an on- campus theft, but wasn't dismissed from Rutgers football team until after he was indicted for murder in a gang case. (The Star Ledger:William Perlman) - SHOULD HAVE KNOWN: Shalicia Hurns had legal problems at Purdue and a junior college before Rutgers recruited her. This week, she was suspended after pleading guilty to charges of criminal restraint and threatening to commit murder. (The Star-Ledger: Amanda Brown)