Enough with the criticism!

[Rev]

I have a suggestion for those who feel the need to criticise the show over this situation... go the fuck away for a day or two.
I'm sure this board doesnt need your traffic, your contributions, your fucking whining.
Got a problem with them apologizing? Go away.
Don't care if this jeopordizes the CBS portion (even though it's all at stake)? Really, just go away.

[fearofGRRs]

:clap:

[patbattlefield]

I will agree that the boys should not be the brunt of the criticism, but I still think they shouldn't have apologized.

[BaLZaC~308]

love ya rev


this place has really been depressing the last few days

[Rev]

I will agree that the boys should not be the brunt of the criticism, but I still think they shouldn't have apologized.It took 2 fucking posts to prove my point.

[patbattlefield]

It took 2 fucking posts to prove my point.

Thinking happy thoughts won't take you off to Neverland or make the problem go away. I choose to look at this objectively and I think the apology did more harm than good in the long run. They saved their jobs for now but what about the next time? The door is now open for censorship on satellite. The apology opened the door. I am not going to sit here an pretend like it was a good thing simply because they are saved for now. What kind of future does the show have if they are now subject to this kind of scrutiny? It should have been confronted head on not in the back rooms of some office.

[ThatsNotFunny]

http://www.beyondhollywood.com/posterx/theroadwarrior2.jpg

Just walk away.....

[ThatsNotFunny]

link isn't working....car crash

[BIV]

Thinking happy thoughts won't take you off to Neverland or make the problem go away. I choose to look at this objectively and I think the apology did more harm than good in the long run. They saved their jobs for now but what about the next time? The door is now open for censorship on satellite. The apology opened the door. I am not going to sit here an pretend like it was a good thing simply because they are saved for now. What kind of future does the show have if they are now subject to this kind of scrutiny? It should have been confronted head on not in the back rooms of some office.

:clap:
Truth is, O&A were the last bastion of strength. Now they look weak. It doesn't matter anymore if this goes away. The assholes are now watching/listening. Next week It'll be something else.

Damnit, I told myself I wouldn't post on this anymore.

[irishloon]

I have a suggestion for those who feel the need to criticise the show over this situation... go the fuck away for a day or two.
I'm sure this board doesnt need your traffic, your contributions, your fucking whining.
Got a problem with them apologizing? Go away.
Don't care if this jeopordizes the CBS portion (even though it's all at stake)? Really, just go away.

All the guys ever say they are doing is "tellin' it like it is", and that's all that's happening here.

I'm not going to drink the fucking kool aid. They said they wouldn't apologize, and they did just that. I'm just disappointed in that. I still support them, but that doesn't mean you can't say what you feel. Don't like it? Too bad, it's just an opinion.

Though I must say, I'm more disappointed in XM, since my guess is that they forced it on the boys. I really just can't see them REALLY being sorry for that bit, it was just too fucking funny!! XM execs should have just left them alone, or issued their own apology, and let them not apologize. I understand them doing it, it's easier to fight the fight from the inside than from the outside. But there still is a bit of disappointment, and rightfully so.

If Opie chooses to criticize us for being disappointed on Monday, then so be it, that's HIS opinion. Just tellin' it like it is. Still love you guys, love the show....

[patbattlefield]

Think about it. Imus apologized...fired. JV and Elvis apologized...fired. Just a thought, but perhaps apologizing isn't working. Appeasement never works, it only delays further action. Look at Ann Coulter, she stood up for herself and they backed off. That is what I was hoping for from O&A...

[palefishbelly]

I have a suggestion for those who feel the need to criticise the show over this situation... go the fuck away for a day or two.
I'm sure this board doesnt need your traffic, your contributions, your fucking whining.
Got a problem with them apologizing? Go away.
Don't care if this jeopordizes the CBS portion (even though it's all at stake)? Really, just go away.


:clap: :clap: :clap: bloody brillant

[BIV]

Think about it. Imus apologized...fired. JV and Elvis apologized...fired. Just a thought, but perhaps apologizing isn't working. Appeasement never works, it only delays further action. Look at Ann Coulter, she stood up for herself and they backed off. That is what I was hoping for from O&A...
I would have even been okay with:
"Listen, we apologize if you were offended, but we didn't do anything wrong."

Opie may get pissed at us, but I work in radio and I've already heard two of my coworkers say "well, they admitted what they did was wrong."

When radio guys from the west coast think you look weak and guilty, that's not a good sign.

[mendozathejew]

listen they took the gamble that this story would die friday. if they didnt apologize, and got fired anyway, wed be wondering in the back of our minds if this would have been diffused with a simple apology, after all the controversial comments didnt even come from their mouths.

a few hours ago everyone was saying it was perfectly played, and diffused. we still dont have a clue how this will play out in the next 3 days. how bout we wait, and focus our attention on atleast trying our best to hold our ground, and assert our special interests

[mendozathejew]

I wanted to hear them defend themselves also. it didnt happen, that wasnt the choice they made.

now what? bitch about it or try to defend the show as best we can. cause I dont think we can really do both.

[BIV]

I wanted to hear them defend themselves also. it didnt happen, that wasnt the choice they made.

now what? bitch about it or try to defend the show as best we can. cause I dont think we can really do both.

That's silly. There is nothing wrong with noting a failed tactic and then moving forward with a revised and improved battle plan.

They have tried the apology thing, it failed. If this is still an issue Monday then they need to come out with both guns blazing

[cokelogic]

I will agree that the boys should not be the brunt of the criticism, but I still think they shouldn't have apologized.X2

[Hog's Big Ben]

XM execs should have just left them alone, or issued their own apology, and let them not apologize.


That was XM's apology. It was posted Thursday night (http://wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=66998). All the boys did was read it Friday morning:

"We apologize to the public officials for comments that were made on our XM show... We take very seriously the responsibility that comes with our creative freedom and regret any offense that this segment has caused." an XM spokesman said.

Anthony read that word for fucking word, but the good old AP got it wrong - they wrote that they said "We apologize to the public officials for comments that we made".

So now the world thinks they apologized for comments that they made. :mad4: :mad4: :mad4:

[cokelogic]

It took 2 fucking posts to prove my point.Rev, I know you mean well, but we all need to piss and moan and vent in every direction.

Who have you found that dislikes the show? Who is shitting on the show?

I've been bitching in a thousand threads today and I fucking love the show as much as anyone.

[mendozathejew]

That's silly. There is nothing wrong with noting a failed tactic and then moving forward with a revised and improved battle plan.

They have tried the apology thing, it failed. If this is still an issue Monday then they need to come out with both guns blazing
I dont have a problem with that. as long as we are moving forward then fine

[BaLZaC~308]

That's silly. There is nothing wrong with noting a failed tactic and then moving forward with a revised and improved battle plan.

They have tried the apology thing, it failed. If this is still an issue Monday then they need to come out with both guns blazing

how is them readin xm's apology a failed tactic??


as of now they have their jobs correct?

[cokelogic]

They have tried the apology thing, it failed. If this is still an issue Monday then they need to come out with both guns blazingThis is why I didn't like the apology today. It doesn't work and you look guilty. Imus got fucked and he was near tears with apologizing. Sorry doesn't mean shit anymore.

[patbattlefield]

This is why I didn't like the apology today. It doesn't work and you look guilty. Imus got fucked and he was near tears with apologizing. Sorry doesn't mean shit anymore.

Exactly. They should have been on every news show defending themselves today.

how is them readin xm's apology a failed tactic??


as of now they have their jobs correct?

at what price though? like i said in my earlier post, they will now be under close scrutiny and its only a matter of time before someone else posts an offensive comment on a blog and were back to square one again. The only way to end this is to make a stand.

[BaLZaC~308]

Exactly. They should have been on every news show defending themselves today.


and they wouldve been fired... you can see that right?


you honestly think that if they told xm no and then made a huge stink about this they would

a. have a job

b. this story would fucking die



truth is this story isnt as big as imus, its been on very little news segments over the last 2 days... hell it was only in one fucking paper in nyc.

[Hog's Big Ben]

They should have been on every news show defending themselves today.


Absolutely not. You saw how well that worked out for Imus. You don't go on someone else's show when they have an agenda and they control the conversation.

Have you learned nothing from the boys???

[BaLZaC~308]

at what price though? like i said in my earlier post, they will now be under close scrutiny and its only a matter of time before someone else posts an offensive comment on a blog and were back to square one again. The only way to end this is to make a stand.



first off we ALL knew including OnA that satellite would eventually have some regulations, does it suck its starting to come to fruition (we think)... yea



It has been 2 fucking days, why dont you give it a few weeks before you start screaming the sky is falling.... wait till they cant make laci jokes no more, wait till aids/pedo is off limits then start bitching.... right now all you are doing is speculating

[irishloon]

truth is this story isnt as big as imus, its been on very little news segments over the last 2 days... hell it was only in one fucking paper in nyc.


Riight. Hannity and Colmes is small peanuts. Who the hell watches them?

Actually, putting aside the sarcasm, who the hell DOES watch them?:icon_roll

[patbattlefield]

Absolutely not. You saw how well that worked out for Imus. You don't go on someone else's show when they have an agenda and they control the conversation.

Have you learned nothing from the boys???

That's because Imus went on an apology tour. If they would have gone out and said we are not sorry for the comments, we will not apologize for comments made in the context of comedy on an uncensored station. Just get out there and say, "Hey we do an uncensored show on XM that is advertised as offensive and off color. If you don't like us change the dial." They have had practice standing up for Imus on their show. All they had to do was repeat the same things in their own defense.

[patbattlefield]

first off we ALL knew including OnA that satellite would eventually have some regulations, does it suck its starting to come to fruition (we think)... yea



It has been 2 fucking days, why dont you give it a few weeks before you start screaming the sky is falling.... wait till they cant make laci jokes no more, wait till aids/pedo is off limits then start bitching.... right now all you are doing is speculating

i think the events of the past 2 days prove it isn't speculation.

[BaLZaC~308]

Riight. Hannity and Colmes is small peanuts. Who the hell watches them?

Actually, putting aside the sarcasm, who the hell DOES watch them?:icon_roll


yea one fucking segment, same with oreilly and that other cunt


was it on cnn?
msnbc?


how many times... how often....

what papers was it in?

total of an hour and a half of coverage... please

If you cant see this is way smaller then imus your a fucking retard.

[BaLZaC~308]

i think the events of the past 2 days prove it isn't speculation.


what events? please specify

[irishloon]

yea one fucking segment, same with oreilly and that other cunt


was it on cnn?
msnbc?


how many times... how often....

what papers was it in?

total of an hour and a half of coverage... please

If you cant see this is way smaller then imus your a fucking retard.
Let's see how many papers it's in this weekend.

Foxnews.com it's the top video.

Just wait, it'll be in the others, too. You think NYT or Newsday won't cover it?

BTW, thanks for the fucking retard remark. Glad to know I'm talking to someone with an IQ over 50. Thank God for that, I almost WAS a fucking retard.

DAH DAH DAH, I LIKE PEANUT BUTTER!! DAH DAH!!:icon_roll :icon_roll :icon_roll

[patbattlefield]

what events? please specify

the blog article that started this whole thing. cmon, you know that things far worse have been discussed on air. this shows people are listening that are out to get them fired and have an agenda. it will happen again. that's not speculation that's just common sense.

[BaLZaC~308]

the blog article that started this whole thing. cmon, you know that things far worse have been discussed on air. this shows people are listening that are out to get them fired and have an agenda. it will happen again. that's not speculation that's just common sense.

Ive brought up this in that huge fucking thread....
laci/conner- way worse
adam walshs head- way worse
any of jimmys pedo remarks- worse

Do I agree since Imus shit has changed... yes but
as of right now I think it is too early to say the show is gonna be watered down and that they wont be able to cover any of the above topics.


my point is wait and see, give it time then complain... it is way too early to know if/ how this will affect the show in the future.



also all I could think of yesterday was "we/they are fucked"

am I convinced were out of the woods... fuck no
but I am more optimistic now then I was yesterday

[SmellyFingers]

This situation is totally different than simply offending a small group because of a racist or sexist statement. People ignorant to the conversation that actually went on in the studio might see this as a threat to Condi and Laura Bush. You know that many in the media who want to see the boys get canned will spin this in the most negative light possible. I can't blame them from apologizing for this one, especially if they were given an ultimatum in panic by the company.

Don't worry, O&A will still be the bad boys of radio, and they will let their true feelings be known in some way. One thing O and A have are the most loyal, rabid, organized fan base of any show. We've proven that WE have a voice many times in the past. We just proved it with CBS, and we will prove it in the coming days with XM. I think XM is smart enough to weather this storm until the next big story comes along in the coming days, rather than risk so many subs being instantly cancelled.

[Rev]

Rev, I know you mean well, but we all need to piss and moan and vent in every direction.

Who have you found that dislikes the show? Who is shitting on the show?

I've been bitching in a thousand threads today and I fucking love the show as much as anyone.
Maybe if the board went into a closed door mode (only members can see content) for the weekend I'd be less concerned. The other day, I saw someone paraphrasing WBL's posts on the radio dentist's board about this being serious.
Not only do I think it alienates us from the show, any chinks in the armor would be seen as weakness to outsiders. It's the same reason I wont post in any threads/polls about pulling subs. Why give XM brass a place to gauge the threat level?

[BaLZaC~308]

It's the same reason I wont post in any threads/polls about pulling subs. Why give XM brass a place to gauge the threat level?


I def have to disagree here man... I think everyone of us should write letters and post about cancelling our subs.


Think about it, most of us have more than one sub, If they lose lets says 50,000 subs at 13 dollars a month that equals 650000 a month! that almost ten million a year!

that kinda money makes a fucking difference especially when it pertains to one show.


OnA have way more than 50,000 subscribers.. it gives the brass at xm something to think about

[patbattlefield]

I def have to disagree here man... I think everyone of us should write letters and post about cancelling our subs.


Think about it, most of us have more than one sub, If they lose lets says 50,000 subs at 13 dollars a month that equals 650000 a month! that almost ten million a year!

that kinda money makes a fucking difference especially when it pertains to one show.


OnA have way more than 50,000 subscribers.. it gives the brass at xm something to think about

it is the most listened to channel on XM according to Elo. That should carry its own weight.

[Rev]

I def have to disagree here man... I think everyone of us should write letters and post about cancelling our subs.


Think about it, most of us have more than one sub, If they lose lets says 50,000 subs at 13 dollars a month that equals 650000 a month! that almost ten million a year!

that kinda money makes a fucking difference especially when it pertains to one show.


OnA have way more than 50,000 subscribers.. it gives the brass at xm something to think about
I meant threads with polls, with yes or no options.
Look at past polls, and you'll see a chunk say they'd keep the subs even if they left.

[BaLZaC~308]

it is the most listened to channel on XM according to Elo. That should carry its own weight.


fact is popular or not the only thing that carries any weight in big business is fucking money.

[patbattlefield]

I meant threads with polls, with yes or no options.
Look at past polls, and you'll see a chunk say they'd keep the subs even if they left.

I doubt that executives at a company like XM are dumb enough to base their decision on a wackbag poll. they know how many people listen to the show. they have people that can estimate the loss in subs that will likely occur far more accurately than reading this site.

[BaLZaC~308]

I meant threads with polls, with yes or no options.
Look at past polls, and you'll see a chunk say they'd keep the subs even if they left.

I dont doubt that alot of people would keep xm if the boys left, hell I would be tempted for Ron and Fez if I didnt know how to get it for free ;)


My point is that the threat of taking all that money away will play into their decisions to fire the boys. Xm can't afford to lose millions a year

[mendozathejew]

can we get a hold of ourselves.

I guess trying to temporarily temper all complaints and criticisms is a bad idea. like cokelogic said we all need to vent. maybe we need a thread for just that. no debating. just post your current feelings of anger or whatever. like a fucking diary of our highly charged feelings


faggoty concept but fuck this arguing about it bullshit. it isnt important.

[Rev]

I dont doubt that alot of people would keep xm if the boys left, hell I would be tempted for Ron and Fez if I didnt know how to get it for free ;)


My point is that the threat of taking all that money away will play into their decisions to fire the boys. Xm can't afford to lose millions a yearLetters, sure. Believe me, I emailed everybody already with that promise. Letters aren't available to the public eye though.
But, I do see your side on the matter.

[Shaggz]

That's because Imus went on an apology tour. If they would have gone out and said we are not sorry for the comments, we will not apologize for comments made in the context of comedy on an uncensored station. Just get out there and say, "Hey we do an uncensored show on XM that is advertised as offensive and off color. If you don't like us change the dial." They have had practice standing up for Imus on their show. All they had to do was repeat the same things in their own defense.
That is exactly IMO what they should have done. But I'm sure they know what they're doing.
yea one fucking segment, same with oreilly and that other cunt


was it on cnn?
msnbc?
It was on MSNBC. Yesterday morning they discussed it for about a half hour on what ever show it is that's in place of Imus.
Just sayin'.

and besides, is reading the statement XM put out word-for-word the same or as bad as them getting on air and groveling?
I think not.

[BaLZaC~308]

It was on MSNBC. Yesterday morning they discussed it for about a half hour on what ever show it is that's in place of Imus.
Just sayin'.

and besides, is reading the statement XM put out word-for-word the same or as bad as them getting on air and groveling?
I think not.

I didnt know how much coverage it got.... my point was that it is no where near as big a story as 'Imus'

It was in only one major paper in NYC, fox news ran with it on their major shows but thats about it. I scanned 1, 2, 4, 5, 7 in NYC thursday night and not one fucking mention.

I am sure there will be more mentions/ segments on this but IMO it will blow over before it gets worse

[thegreatgazoo]

Think about it. Imus apologized...fired. JV and Elvis apologized...fired. Just a thought, but perhaps apologizing isn't working. Appeasement never works, it only delays further action. Look at Ann Coulter, she stood up for herself and they backed off. That is what I was hoping for from O&A...


I agree. The media and these little groups are like bullies. They pick on something or someone that they feel is weak. If you stand up to them, they back off and move on to something else. They want the easy targets, not someone who is going to challenge them. Coulter proved it. Look how fast that became a non story because she said yea I said it so what. I really thought O/A would have done the same thing.

[thegreatgazoo]

first off we ALL knew including OnA that satellite would eventually have some regulations, does it suck its starting to come to fruition (we think)... yea




It just seems to me that all of a sudden there are too many people that are now willing to accept a censored show or regulations just to have a show. What happened to all the talk about censorship and fighting back. I don't want to have a regulated XM. This was an opportunity to finally fight back and it just seems as if everyone is in the " be quiet and don't cause trouble, and just do what they say mode". This is not what O/A fans are like.

[Sevenyars]

We can only hope a bigger news story breaks out. Man if only Oj would go down to that place in Kentucky and cut that guys head off, this would all be over.

[Sevenyars]

The truth is, it is only a matter of time until they are fired. How long do you think Jim can go with out telling a baby R4pe joke, he can't help it, it is his Dna. What we can only hope for is xm to say "listen, this is a dirty dirty channel" like they already have, and stand behind it. I can come up with about 10 other bits they have done that are 3 times more harmful than this bit. That is what they are about, brutal humor. They can't do stunts and now they can't tell jokes, what is the show going to be about? Because the shows on Friday really made me sad, like going to the Zoo and watching three tigers pace in a cell. By them not getting fired we get to see them, but just like the tigers, not the full majestic nature.

[cokelogic]

Maybe if the board went into a closed door mode (only members can see content) for the weekend I'd be less concerned. The other day, I saw someone paraphrasing WBL's posts on the radio dentist's board about this being serious.Okay, you got me there. I have forgotten there are many lurks around now. And with that said, "Alan Sniffen is a nerd".

[Finngers]

Think about it. Imus apologized...fired. JV and Elvis apologized...fired. Just a thought, but perhaps apologizing isn't working. Appeasement never works, it only delays further action. Look at Ann Coulter, she stood up for herself and they backed off. That is what I was hoping for from O&A...
I gotta say - great point backed up by recent facts.

**BUT**

1. THE BOYS HAVE ALWAYS SAID (even recently about Imus): " Apologize ONCE, then move on. No apology tours." So far, isn't this what they've done??? Give it some time.

I really truly believe that XM held a gun to the boys' heads (the smaller heads, actually) and said "if you don't read this you're absolutely done here". So they could have been martyrs and said "go screw, MAAAAANNN!", but then, POOF, there goes the show, their jobs, the jobs of their staff, income for XM (this would destroy what little is left of their stock and bring it down to Sirius levels).

Everyone answers to someone, gang. These are scary times in this country, with many media outlets wiling to appease special interest groups (anyone with a nifty letterhead). Does anyone here not realize how much it actually KILLED Op and Ant to read that "apology"? I have never heard a more disingenuous delivery of a pre-fab corporate PC statement. This had to be really difficult and embarrassing for them.

Again - I think for the fans here that truly know the show and the boys, this was the absolute perfect example of what I see as a "hostage video".

[generoso]

This will be my 1st and last comment on the whole issue. If they had to say I'm sorry and eat a little crow for the next week or so. Well so be it I would rather have a sorry OnA for a while than NO OnA for a long while. Remember those 2 years off. I don't want to go thru that again do you.They said the corporate apology and moved on. They know what to do and will handle it as they see fit. So sit back support and lets find other topics for the nest few weeks.


WTF I only pressed the post button once

[BaLZaC~308]

It just seems to me that all of a sudden there are too many people that are now willing to accept a censored show or regulations just to have a show. What happened to all the talk about censorship and fighting back. I don't want to have a regulated XM. This was an opportunity to finally fight back and it just seems as if everyone is in the " be quiet and don't cause trouble, and just do what they say mode". This is not what O/A fans are like.

you misunderstand me , i think


I never said I am happy about it but we all knew something like this would happen to xm, OnA have been saying it for a long time.


And like I said to pat, wait a few weeks before you brand the show as watered down, nothing has happened yet, they havent been restricted yet.

Give it some time before you decide its over and hopeless

[BroGonzo]

They never said they'd never apologize. They said apologize once, then move on. That's what was said about the Imus situation, so whiners, get your fucking facts straight.

It's also exactly what's happening. They had an awkward show Friday, but the only time the issue really came up (other than in some hilariously-veiled jokes about the situation) was during the apology that was READ at the beginning of both segments of the show.

I want to listen to fresh Opie & Anthony Monday, and the Monday after that, and the Monday after that. You want to lose a radio show over one little apology, then please,

Flush your XM, buy a Sirius, and fuck your mother.

[jpc165]

at least they only apologized to the public officials and not everyone on the planet that might have been offended if they chose to download the clip.

[Douche_Nozzle]

To all of the fucking idiots on this board that are bitching about the boy’s apology, go fuck your mothers you dick fucking cock bags. You are supposedly fans of the show so it would seem to me that when the show needs the fan support; you would voice your support rather than perpetually bitching. You don't see the larger picture, go listen to Mancow you cunts. The apology was damage control so that the show would continue to exist. Since the Imus debacle the boys have been the loudest voice championing the cause of free speech. They can't keep up the fight if they don't have a platform to wage the battle.

[Mizzeaux]

To all of the fucking idiots on this board that are bitching about the boy’s apology, go fuck your mothers you dick fucking cock bags. You are supposedly fans of the show so it would seem to me that when the show needs the fan support; you would voice your support rather than perpetually bitching. You don't see the larger picture, go listen to Mancow you cunts. The apology was damage control so that the show would continue to exist. Since the Imus debacle the boys have been the loudest voice championing the cause of free speech. They can't keep up the fight if they don't have a platform to wage the battle.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[thegreatgazoo]

you misunderstand me , i think


I never said I am happy about it but we all knew something like this would happen to xm, OnA have been saying it for a long time.


And like I said to pat, wait a few weeks before you brand the show as watered down, nothing has happened yet, they havent been restricted yet.

Give it some time before you decide its over and hopeless

Sorry if I did. My point was that I'm just afraid that people will get to comfortable with restrictions just to have a show. I would rather fight it now because it appears to me that this might be sort of a turning point. It seems as if enough people raised hell this time and people took notice of the fact that we are not going to put up with this firing dj shit.

Got to keep pressing them

Oh by the way, read your other post, 8 years? How the hell have you avoided getting married?:action-sm

[domcasual]

didn't they say the would never apologize for any material that may be "offensive" or may hurt someone's feelings?

[BaLZaC~308]

Sorry if I did. My point was that I'm just afraid that people will get to comfortable with restrictions just to have a show. I would rather fight it now because it appears to me that this might be sort of a turning point. It seems as if enough people raised hell this time and people took notice of the fact that we are not going to put up with this firing dj shit.

Got to keep pressing them

Oh by the way, read your other post, 8 years? How the hell have you avoided getting married?:action-sm


no worries.... Im with you man I dont want restrictions either but I dont want no show more!
I understand people being worried about the future of uncensored xm but all I am saying is give it time, let it play out. Right now the boys really need our unwavering support.


As far as the 8 years... we got together really young, both our parents are divorced so that gives us alittle bit of worry about rushing (hahaha 8 years aint really a rush) into things.
We do live together and before that we spent 6-7 days a week with each other for most of our relationship so we know we can be around each other constantly.
The big thing is we both want to be secure financially before we marry/have children, and we are both pretty far off in that case

[BaLZaC~308]

didn't they say the would never apologize for any material that may be "offensive" or may hurt someone's feelings?


great first post


:icon_roll :icon_roll :icon_roll

[BroGonzo]

didn't they say the would never apologize for any material that may be "offensive" or may hurt someone's feelings?

No, they said you apologize once and move on.

[DoucheSatchel]

Sadly I have to preface my next statemnet with this disclaimer as I know that a bunch of assholes are gonna jump all over me for what I'm about to say.

I have been listening to O n A since WNEW (I still miss science news with ****z)

I have been writing letters to everyone at XM threatening to cancel my subs, and letters to dropped sponsers about how I will no longer be using their products, and I am composing more letter to sponsers that havent dropped yet to let them know why I wont be using their products if they do drop.

That being said......

The Buh Buh Buh Boys have brought any criticisms that they receive down on themselves by saying things like
"We're going out like James Dean Maaaaan"
"We're not apologizing Maaaan"
They said this shit and more like it just a few weeks ago and it's disingenuous for all you "Uber Fans" to sit here and act like they didn't say it, you didn't hear it, and most of all that people don't have the right to point it out when we're all in the middle of what most agree is a freedom of fuckin speech issue.

I listen to 202 from noon to midnight 5 days a week, I'm just honest enough to recognize that people have a right to point out that this isn't exactly a James Dean response....it doesn't make them worse fans....just honest ones.

[Mizzeaux]

Everyone that knows their ass from a hole in the wall knows what the apology was. Something that needed to be done to keep shit together.

And if there was ever a more "go fuck yourself" way to apologize I've never heard it. Good work.

[WOWmagnet]

You see? Even a high-post-count guy can be "not getting it guy".

Take a few days off, PAT.

[Rev]

HOLY SHIT! I can't believe the boys got fired! We have to get a rally together and let XM and CBS know we want the O&A show back on the air! How could they have fired them. Who will take their place? Man, this fucking sucks. No more O&A show.

Think what you will but these type of posts would be replacing all of the "shouldn't have apologized" posts. I shit you NOT. Think about that.
I'm glad to see the criticism hasn't pushed you away from Wackbag, WBL.
I was beginning to think this board would be replaced with cock picks.

[Audi Mike]

HOLY SHIT! I can't believe the boys got fired! We have to get a rally together and let XM and CBS know we want the O&A show back on the air! How could they have fired them. Who will take their place? Man, this fucking sucks. No more O&A show.

Think what you will but these type of posts would be replacing all of the "shouldn't have apologized" posts. I shit you NOT. Think about that.

thats very good to hear, brooklyn bred ant

[VirusCarrier]

It was something that had to be done. They could have told XM to fuck themselves but where would that have left them? Put anyone else in their shoes and we'd do the exact same thing. Besides, that apology wasn't an ass-kissing move for the offended parties (no one gives a shit about what Condi, Laura or the queen thinks about it), but posturing to keep their jobs in tact. And they did a good job of it, IMHO.

[frankricard]

the reason Imus was fired and the reason JV & Elvis were fired was not because they apologized, it was because they did something that dealt with RACE. If homeless charlie would have added the word "black" when talking about fucking condi, O&A would have been fired by now, but since there was no attack on race, creed, orientation, ect, it is a totally different situation, and people like Al Sharpton can't go after them cause it wasnt racially driven. Imus toed the race line - Fired, JV and Elvis toed the race lin - Fired, O&A didn't - Not Fired. To say that apologizing was the reason for Imus and JV & Elvis getting canned is stupid

[styckx]

To all of the fucking idiots on this board that are bitching about the boy’s apology, go fuck your mothers you dick fucking cock bags. You are supposedly fans of the show so it would seem to me that when the show needs the fan support; you would voice your support rather than perpetually bitching. You don't see the larger picture, go listen to Mancow you cunts. The apology was damage control so that the show would continue to exist. Since the Imus debacle the boys have been the loudest voice championing the cause of free speech. They can't keep up the fight if they don't have a platform to wage the battle.

Wow that was your first post?

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :icon_eek:

[dodisman]

They apologized ONCE, with a solid statement. That is what you do. It got picked up by the news and CNN and other sites started having headlines that read "Shock Jocks apologize for comments..." so it made a difference!

So i think it was key to have a statement. Not go on and on and on like IMUS did...That is where he fucked up. So in my eyes they handled it perfectly and it 'appears' the storm is passing...All this "shouldn't have apologized" bullshit is absurd. They have fucking responsibilites and commitments that we can't even comprehend so they did what they had to do.

[greg1022b]

just because the boys had to apologize, doesn't mean that they wanted to in any way. we all know opie's and ant's opinion on apologizing for something they said, but regardless it was something that had to be done so that they could continue broadcasting.

[domcasual]

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Douche_Nozzle
To all of the fucking idiots on this board that are bitching about the boy’s apology, go fuck your mothers you dick fucking cock bags. You are supposedly fans of the show so it would seem to me that when the show needs the fan support; you would voice your support rather than perpetually bitching. You don't see the larger picture, go listen to Mancow you cunts. The apology was damage control so that the show would continue to exist. Since the Imus debacle the boys have been the loudest voice championing the cause of free speech. They can't keep up the fight if they don't have a platform to wage the battle.

Quote:
Wow that was your first post?


Wow I know. I wonder what his second post will be!!!

[domcasual]

Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Douche_Nozzle
To all of the fucking idiots on this board that are bitching about the boy’s apology, go fuck your mothers you dick fucking cock bags. You are supposedly fans of the show so it would seem to me that when the show needs the fan support; you would voice your support rather than perpetually bitching. You don't see the larger picture, go listen to Mancow you cunts. The apology was damage control so that the show would continue to exist. Since the Imus debacle the boys have been the loudest voice championing the cause of free speech. They can't keep up the fight if they don't have a platform to wage the battle.

Quote:
Wow that was your first post?


Wow I know. I wonder what his second post will be!!!

:)

[dodisman]

"Fuck the thought police mannnnn....No retreat, no surrender and no apologies mannnn"

[Mizzeaux]

Wow I know. I wonder what his second post will be!!!

I'm guessing it will have something to do with clown ra-pe.

[greg1022b]

IF this blows over and IF there is still an O&A show I will tell you about some of my screaming phone calls. Trust me.
looking forward to it

[BroGonzo]

IF this blows over and IF there is still an O&A show I will tell you about some of my screaming phone calls. Trust me.

Otherwise, can we hear about them on the Cumia Podcast?:action-sm

Just kidding, buddy... can't wait till Monday. Fuck Rev. Al.

[VirusCarrier]

IF this blows over and IF there is still an O&A show I will tell you about some of my screaming phone calls. Trust me.
I look forward to it. I'm sure there so much more 'behind the scenes' shit that y'all could go on for hours about it.

[Allepac]

Ant what do you think of JV and Elvis being fired? How fucking stupid is CBS?

[styckx]

IF this blows over and IF there is still an O&A show I will tell you about some of my screaming phone calls. Trust me.

Are they before or after you mail the check to the ex?

[Audi Mike]

IF this blows over and IF there is still an O&A show I will tell you about some of my screaming phone calls. Trust me.

bubba hinted on fridays show he knows for a fact u guys are DONE

which means you will be signing a 5 year extension by weeks end

congrats

[domcasual]

IF this blows over and IF there is still an O&A show I will tell you about some of my screaming phone calls. Trust me.

Woke up in a great mood, don't know what the hell happen.

[Mizzeaux]

IF this blows over and IF there is still an O&A show I will tell you about some of my screaming phone calls. Trust me.

I don't know about the behind the scenes shit involved on WBL's end, but it looks like it's blowing over now.

Sharpton is an official assclown at this point with the recent Mormon crap, I think he's too nervous to start pushing for more of the Radio Firings. There's going to be backlash.

My friends who don't listen are already sick of this Sharpton/Jackson radio shit. That's the general (allbeit white) public.

[DoucheMeister]

Ha...she must be shitting her pants!

Tell the cunt lawyers that you had to take a huge pay cut to stay on the air.

[greg1022b]

whatever happened to the hearing/court thing on april 12th? don't think we got an update on that

[ddberry]

IF this blows over and IF there is still an O&A show I will tell you about some of my screaming phone calls. Trust me.

If it doesn't blow over (and believe me I really hope it does), but if it doesn't, where should we put the radio mike (painted white) and the flowers?

[kimothee]

Ha...she must be shitting her pants!

Ah, but this will play nicely into the volatility of your career and that there is no such thing as a guaranteed income - great attorney talking point!

<-----weakly trying to provide a tad bit of humor into this sorry state of affairs

that's terrible...I'm sorry

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I have a suggestion for those who feel the need to criticise the show over this situation... go the fuck away for a day or two.
I'm sure this board doesnt need your traffic, your contributions, your fucking whining.
Got a problem with them apologizing? Go away.
Don't care if this jeopordizes the CBS portion (even though it's all at stake)? Really, just go away.
:clap: :clap: :clap:

[jclintsma]

I have a suggestion for those who feel the need to criticise the show over this situation... go the fuck away for a day or two.
I'm sure this board doesnt need your traffic, your contributions, your fucking whining.
Got a problem with them apologizing? Go away.
Don't care if this jeopordizes the CBS portion (even though it's all at stake)? Really, just go away.
:clap: :clap:

[dodisman]

Nothing would be better then to see the boys survive this thing and Stern not get a chance to put in his two cents because he had Friday off...

[jclintsma]

IF this blows over and IF there is still an O&A show I will tell you about some of my screaming phone calls. Trust me.
How has super agent Bob been?????

[greg1022b]

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_21280092.shtml

if this doesn't get as much attention as O&A did, and in this scenario only bubba is involved, and a recording he decided to play, then this just proves what an insignificant fat piece of spam(both meanings of the word) bubba is

[thegreatgazoo]

no worries.... Im with you man I dont want restrictions either but I dont want no show more!
I understand people being worried about the future of uncensored xm but all I am saying is give it time, let it play out. Right now the boys really need our unwavering support.


As far as the 8 years... we got together really young, both our parents are divorced so that gives us alittle bit of worry about rushing (hahaha 8 years aint really a rush) into things.
We do live together and before that we spent 6-7 days a week with each other for most of our relationship so we know we can be around each other constantly.
The big thing is we both want to be secure financially before we marry/have children, and we are both pretty far off in that case


I hear ya. By the way I've been married 18 years and I'm still waiting to be financially secure. :icon_lol: Ask any married guy, your always working at it.
You guys seem good together. Keep at it, just make sure you communicate, thats the most important thing. And that's coming from a divorce attorney!
Have a good one.

[Tax Kuntz]

Will Monday be another Peanut Butter & Jelly show?

[dodisman]

I can't even imagine the low to high for these guys this weekend if they pull it out...to think that we may actually see that studio get built after all this time!

[Audi Mike]

What a dope. What these guys don't understand is it won't end with the O&A show if they decide to pull out the ol' boot. There is always a next target. If satellite isn't safe then all those idiots like Bubba will face the same shit.
But, why would I think a fat ass dumb fuck like Bubba would get anything.

i think bubba thinks theres an invisible forcefield around him because of howie..

and we know he brought this up on air only to please his master,bubbas still a tapdancing coo.. {err i mean very silly person who tries to entertain} shining howies shoes and dancing in front of him asking massa if hes doing good..

[waycar]

and they wouldve been fired... you can see that right?


you honestly think that if they told xm no and then made a huge stink about this they would

a. have a job

b. this story would fucking die



truth is this story isnt as big as imus, its been on very little news segments over the last 2 days... hell it was only in one fucking paper in nyc.


I agree. hopefully the story is dying, and the talking heads will be on something else come monday. the sooner it's out of the news the better. The guys are doing the right thing by keeping things low key over the weekend.

[Pump Master]

Most of the complainers probably are 'Post Sex for Sam' fans and haven't suffered the pain of 2 years of therapy.

[greg1022b]

99% of the year i wish that i was back in the states and not in poland, but when i heard the local shock jock show say "ladies and gentlemen we only have one thing to say: oh fuck we're screwed" the day after the national elections, and get away with it uncensored on FM it makes me wanna stay just a bit. that + being able 2 drink without a fake id at the age of 18 :D

[VirusCarrier]

Will Monday be another Peanut Butter & Jelly show?
Peanut Butter & Jelly show? They're walking on eggshells right now. I'm just glad they're on the air at all. I think they'll get through it, however, I don't think things will be back to "normal" any time soon, if ever. But the boys are talented and will still give us some great entertainment!

[madbam]

I can't even imagine the low to high for these guys this weekend if they pull it out...to think that we may actually see that studio get built after all this time!

They will....I have a good feeling that XM will support the boys and it may be a while but everything will blow over...

[Mizzeaux]

I'm listening to the replay right now.

I think the "Thank Goodness The Keys Still Work" bit is becoming a Monday trend. :)

[styckx]

I can't even imagine the low to high for these guys this weekend if they pull it out...

It doesn't matter sir, you fail to realize, to every journalist, and special interest group out there, this is all they see now of the boys. If it blows over this weekend, I'm sure something else will come up next..

http://www.element6.com/clients/britgear/images/bits/targetshirt.jpg

[Pump Master]

Will Monday be another Peanut Butter & Jelly show?
If it is, deal with it!

[VirusCarrier]

You know every news organization has invited them to be on. But that would be about the dumbest thing they could do. They're smart enough to stay low when the shit is flying. Since it went down on the XM side and assuming it doesn't impair the merger (if that happens at all), they'll come out of it OK. I'm interested to hear them talk about it when they can. A lot of this is nonsense because we aren't privy to all the inside details.

[Rev]

they'll come out of it OK. I'm interested to hear them talk about it when they can.
I can't wait to hear all this new coverage being used in a new show opener.
I think the one that stood out to me was a booming voice-over saying, "Shock jocks, living up to the title!"

[jclintsma]

My fav: "These 2 shock jocks are also shock jerks."

Wow...good one.
Or mancow saying "there Just Bad guys"

[EvilHomerJ666]

My fav: "These 2 shock jocks are also shock jerks."

Wow...good one.


I like UGLY and Anthony. Not that Opie's ugly, I just shows man douche is affraid of even Op's looks. (no Homo)

[Rev]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bXh2SUV4n8E
that's the one i was talking about. Steve needs to isolate that, use it in a new opener.

[LAX]

Okay, you got me there. I have forgotten there are many lurks around now. And with that said, "Alan Sniffen is a nerd".


He seems to put alot of effort into things....

I'm changing dentist's:D

[madbam]

At least Drudge was smart enough to take the headline down...we need some death and mayhem in the news this weekend...maybe a Mothers day massacre or something...

[WOWmagnet]

i think bubba thinks theres an invisible forcefield around him because of howie..




There is. Shrapton would never take on Howie.

[Tax Kuntz]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bXh2SUV4n8E
that's the one i was talking about. Steve needs to isolate that, use it in a new opener.

Ha, love the file footage from about 5 or 6 years ago.

Young & Innocent.

[Pump Master]

At least Drudge was smart enough to take the headline down...we need some death and mayhem in the news this weekend...maybe a Mothers day massacre or something...
Nuking Iran would be a good start.

[Audi Mike]

mancow should have come up with bleeding and heart

he saw through the lies and the fact that they got the homeless man to attack condolezza because shes a conservative where bleeding hearts like ant and lol jimmy just wanted to take pot shots..

im glad theres one man in the industry who can see through all the bullshit and his name is MANCOW

[styckx]

I think I'll let someone else step in here and say what I think everyone on wackbag is really thinking

gis
http://static.flickr.com/53/139602089_6a2c2f8bd8.jpg

[LAX]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bXh2SUV4n8E
that's the one i was talking about. Steve needs to isolate that, use it in a new opener.

You'd think with all the TV the boys have done they'd be able to find some recent file video...

That's pre John Sahag days

[WOWmagnet]

I love how mancow said "they're both liberals. that's why they're not gone yet." ...trying to garner more conserva-cunt sentiments.

[madbam]

I think I'll let someone else step in here and say what I think everyone on wackbag is really thinking

gis
http://static.flickr.com/53/139602089_6a2c2f8bd8.jpg

yeah britney's anal cavity people....be dialing

[styckx]

You'd think with all the TV the boys have done they'd be able to find some recent file video...

That's pre John Sahag days

What are you talking about, their own company just realized not to long ago the cartoon character gimmick wasn't working very well

[Rev]

So, when's the next Rapekit & Crawlspace show anyway?

[Audi Mike]

There is. Shrapton would never take on Howie.


i agree but bubba thinks hes in that forcefield when if he was in hot water howie nor being on howies channel would save him..

[vaglvr]

Or mancow saying "there Just Bad guys"
There is a part of that Mancow interview I cannot stop watching. Colmes gets to Mancow at the beginning and Mancow flips out and says,

"Ok allen, you want to dance ginger ok I'll play fred with you, we'll do a little dance"

Oh my god.

[krisko]

There is a part of that Mancow interview I cannot stop watching. Colmes gets to Mancow at the beginning and Mancow flips out and says,

"Ok allen, you want to dance ginger ok I'll play fred with you, we'll do a little dance"

Oh my god.
yes and colmles finally spoke up...he said something like, no mancow we're not dancing we're talking ...which is the equivalent of a car crash.

the other thing that pisses me off about the mancow interview is how he said that the boys are liberal...on tuesday anthony screamed "i'm a republican" mancow is just trying to gain some conservative street cred and it will never work, bottom line: he's an ass

[greg1022b]

....... street cred and it will never work, bottom line: he's an ass

quite the understatement, words cannot describe the filth that is mandouche

[LAX]

quite the understatement, words cannot describe the filth that is mandouche

Well not on the Fm side anyway:icon_wink

[styckx]

I bet....

FIVE DOLLARS, audible got a sudden swell in subscriptions and downloads of the o&a archive

[LAX]

I bet....

FIVE DOLLARS, audible got a sudden swell in subscriptions and downloads of the o&a archive

How about a six pack of vermont's finest microbrew:icon_wink

[greg1022b]

How about a six pack of vermont's finest microbrew:icon_wink
i'll go local with a bottle of poland's finest vodka

[styckx]

How about a six pack of vermont's finest microbrew:icon_wink

I used to live in Vermont up until about 5 months ago. Lived there for a year.

Jersey is much better

[LAX]

I used to live in Vermont up until about 5 months ago. Lived there for a year.

Jersey is much better

Yeah I remember you from Paltalk...

Glad to have ya in the tri-state

[styckx]

Yeah I remember you from Paltalk...

Glad to have ya in the tri-state

Oh yeah I remember now. Yeah paltalk, I like it, but, it's hard to deal with for long periods of time. Just not my cup of tea.

[ihatethisplace]

HOLY SHIT! I can't believe the boys got fired! We have to get a rally together and let XM and CBS know we want the O&A show back on the air! How could they have fired them. Who will take their place? Man, this fucking sucks. No more O&A show.



oh fuck! i just got home. what happened? do you work for the show or something?

[styckx]

oh fuck! i just got home. what happened? do you work for the show or something?

Simmer down you Orville Overkill

[LAX]

Simmer down you Orville Overkill

Or "Oliver Out-of-context"

[greg1022b]

oh fuck! i just got home. what happened? do you work for the show or something?
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/pics/crash54.jpg

[Rev]

It's kinda sad. Even with WBL posting in here, the criticism won't die down.
This board needs a good hosing down.

[styckx]

It's kinda sad. Even with WBL posting in here, the criticism won't die down.
This board needs a good hosing down.

Yeah, some of these fools need alittle time out

[BroGonzo]

Yeah, some of these fools need alittle time out

Nah, I wouldn't suggest banning people for their comments, particularly during a discussion about a radio show's right to say whatever they want.

Instead, do what Opie suggests: Eat Your Own.

If trolls show up, just smash the shit out of them. Giving their remarks a sound, public beating will be enough of a lesson to these asshats.

[styckx]

Nah, I wouldn't suggest banning people for their comments, particularly during a discussion about a radio show's right to say whatever they want.

Instead, do what Opie suggests: Eat Your Own.

If trolls show up, just smash the shit out of them. Giving their remarks a sound, public beating will be enough of a lesson to these asshats.

Very true sir, very true, I think we were speaking in a rhetorical fashion though.

Nothing is more enjoyable then a good public flogging

[greg1022b]

..........If trolls show up, just smash the shit out of them. Giving their remarks a sound, public beating will be enough of a lesson to these asshats.

+ that part's always fun:icon_mrgr

[patbattlefield]

HOLY SHIT! I can't believe the boys got fired! We have to get a rally together and let XM and CBS know we want the O&A show back on the air! How could they have fired them. Who will take their place? Man, this fucking sucks. No more O&A show.

Think what you will but these type of posts would be replacing all of the "shouldn't have apologized" posts. I shit you NOT. Think about that.

That pisses me off that you were given that ultimatum. I have no respect for XM any more. Do they even realize the consequences to forcing you into that position? I'm going to go pound my head off a wall now.

[wes mantooth]

That pisses me off that you were given that ultimatum. I have no respect for XM any more. Do they even realize the consequences to forcing you into that position? I'm going to go pound my head off a wall now.


Did you think they would've apologized under any other circumstances?

[patbattlefield]

Did you think they would've apologized under any other circumstances?

No, but can you see why some of us are so concerned with an apology? It hasn't exactly worked out for others.

[BroGonzo]

No, but can you see why some of us are so concerned with an apology? It hasn't exactly worked out for others.

You're looking at this angle:

IMUS - Apologized, fired.
JV & ELVIS - Apologized, fired.
OPIE & ANTHONY - Apologized, ???

But this is the issue:

IMUS - FM and Network TV, fired.
JV & ELVIS - FM, fired.
OPIE & ANTHONY - XM Satellite Radio. Should be safe, right?

[patbattlefield]

You're looking at this angle:

IMUS - Apologized, fired.
JV & ELVIS - Apologized, fired.
OPIE & ANTHONY - Apologized, ???

But this is the issue:

IMUS - FM and Network TV, fired.
JV & ELVIS - FM, fired.
OPIE & ANTHONY - XM Satellite Radio. Should be safe, right?

that's the thing. who the fuck knows anymore? you would have thought 3 days ago that the comments they are being criticized for would have been safe on satellite.

[greg1022b]

You're looking at this angle:

IMUS - Apologized, fired.
JV & ELVIS - Apologized, fired.
OPIE & ANTHONY - Apologized, ???

But this is the issue:

IMUS - FM and Network TV, fired.
JV & ELVIS - FM, fired.
OPIE & ANTHONY - XM Satellite Radio. Should be safe, right?

theoretically yea, should be safe, but as ant said himself: " Ummmm, don't you see FM had nothing to do with this. XM is the bigger issue here. Will the show have to be watered down on that side? We'll see.
The FM show is gonna remain unchanged."

[Mizzeaux]

They were. Drudge put his shitball article up and people latched on. The boys apologized with a "Fuck Off" apology. News Reported that. XM told everyone about parental controls and it's over.

The only wildcard is Sharpton, and I think that's a non-issue. If the media coverage gets the boys asses in a sling for a little bit they know how to handle it. Like they say, they've been here before.

Everything will be fine. If it's watered down shit radio with veiled references for a little bit while every cunt in the media's listening and waiting for them to screw up, that's fine. But everything will be okay.

[BroGonzo]

theoretically yea, should be safe, but as ant said himself: " Ummmm, don't you see FM had nothing to do with this. XM is the bigger issue here. Will the show have to be watered down on that side? We'll see.
The FM show is gonna remain unchanged."

I know, what I mean is that what Imus and JV & Elvis had in common was that their comments were on FM radio. The apology thing didn't matter. They got fired because they were on terrestrial.

O&A's one-time apology isn't the issue, either. What the fight here is over is the fact that satellite should be unregulated and free from the fear of censorship.

[greg1022b]

I know, what I mean is that what Imus and JV & Elvis had in common was that their comments were on FM radio. The apology thing didn't matter. They got fired because they were on terrestrial.

O&A's one-time apology isn't the issue, either. What the fight here is over is the fact that satellite should be unregulated and free from the fear of censorship.
fully agree, the next move should be to just ignore whatever horseshit sharpton throws at the boys and XM, dirty [deep 50s voice] NEGRO[/deep 50s voice] doesn't deserve a public voice on such a large scale

[patbattlefield]

I do have a question to pose to WBL: What do you do now? There are obviously people out there bent on your firing. How can you be creative while constantly looking over your shoulder? Is satellite going to be censored now? I guess more plainly, where is the light at the end of tunnel in all this?

[greg1022b]

I do have a question to pose to WBL: What do you do now? There are obviously people out there bent on your firing. How can you be creative while constantly looking over your shoulder? Is satellite going to be censored now? I guess more plainly, where is the light at the end of tunnel in all this?
considering they made their name on FM for so many years i think they'll manage somehow, even if its watered down for some time.

[Rev]

I do have a question to pose to WBL: What do you do now? There are obviously people out there bent on your firing. How can you be creative while constantly looking over your shoulder? Is satellite going to be censored now? I guess more plainly, where is the light at the end of tunnel in all this?I try to look at it in relative terms.
Ok, they'll need to tone it down some (at least for now). But, so will the rest of the shows out there.
The boys will always be at the front of the pack, even if the pace of the run has slowed down for everybody.

Comparring them to themselves, it'll always look bad. The climate has changed.

[Rev]

These days...point, click, done.2 damage, 2 damage!

[greg1022b]

hey WBL, how has op been holdin up through all of this?

[greg1022b]

2 damage, 2 damage!
:icon_lol:

[LadyDi'sTrain]

hey WBL, how has op been holdin up through all of this?
...thoughts and prayers...

[wes mantooth]

hey WBL, how has op been holdin up through all of this?


Hello Opie. :D

[styckx]

hey WBL, how has op been holdin up through all of this?

I'd imagine something along the lines of this(minus the tigger shirt)

http://secondhandgods.typepad.com/secondhand_gods/images/poker.jpg

[The Sarge]

Yeah. I got nothing.

Just keep doin' it, to it.

It is what it is.

I was just glad to see O&A on the Stars and Stripes; and tellin' my guys..."Hey it's O&A". They say. "Who?". I say, "the ones you were listenin' to and laughin' your ass off on the iPod."

They said. "Oh yeah. Those guys are great".

[mendozathejew]

its fairly busy news day today which is obviously good. missing soldiers in iraq, some little blonde child missing in florida

[Rev]

some little blonde child missing in florida ::wipes sweat off brow::
At least they won't have to worry about Greta talking about them on Fox for a few days.:rolleyes:

[greg1022b]

I'd imagine something along the lines of this(minus the tigger shirt)

http://secondhandgods.typepad.com/secondhand_gods/images/poker.jpg
you've got it all wrong styckx - it'd b a tigger shirt + sweats, some wine, jay more, and a javalog

[wes mantooth]

"Oh, you said Tigger. I'm sorry I thought someone was calling my name."

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/velvel/sharpton.jpg

[styckx]

its fairly busy news day today which is obviously good. missing soldiers in iraq, some little blonde child missing in florida

Don't forget I'm sure some celebrity is also in Africa picking out the cutest negro baby for their latest adoption

[greg1022b]

"Oh, you said Tigger. I'm sorry I thought someone was calling my name."

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/velvel/sharpton.jpg
:icon_lol: :icon_lol: :haha7: :haha7:

[styckx]

:icon_lol: :icon_lol: :haha7: :haha7:

Sir, do you listen to the show online or something? Just noticing you're from Poland


/never forgot Poland

[mendozathejew]

all that complaining about the apology. and now- XM refuses to meet with Sharpton.

maybe, just maybe, they knew what they were doing

[greg1022b]

Sir, do you listen to the show online or something? Just noticing you're from Poland


/never forgot Poland

streaming on free fm, xm subscription online, audible.....to answer your question, yes. actually the timing works out great for me, cuz the show starts at 12 here, so i don't have 2 b awake at 6 :D

[Rev]

"Oh, you said Tigger. I'm sorry I thought someone was calling my name."

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/velvel/sharpton.jpg Awesome Paltalk screengrab from the Mikey the Chimp segment!

[greg1022b]

Awesome Paltalk screengrab from the Mikey the Chimp segment!
the resemblance is amazing

[DonTheTrucker]

I'm not reading 8 pages of this shit.

Anyone who thinks that the apology was a bad idea is wrong. Period. Let the guys do their fucking jobs and provide us with entertainment.

[dodisman]

"Oh, you said Tigger. I'm sorry I thought someone was calling my name."

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/velvel/sharpton.jpg

One of Ronny's best bits...fucking love that bit...

[vaglvr]

One of Ronny's best bits...fucking love that bit...
Monkey?

[Triple Skeet]

That's the question we face everytime a jock (or we!) get fired and the climate of radio changes. Even a few years back it was very hard to get a clip of a show that you found offensive out to a large number of people.
These days...point, click, done. Strange and scary days indeed.
I don't really have an answer for you. I just hope, like all the other times, we are creative enough to overcome the restrictions that are put in place and can do a good show. If we can't we'll be gone anyway.
We will see won't we.


All I wanna know is, after this all blows over, can we PLEASE launch a full on, no holds barred attack on Mancow?

I cant take that motherfucker anymore. Although it was nice to see someone who is supposed to be a popular talk radio host get owned by Allen Colmes, who is basically a fucking mute.

[Ron Kind]

O&A said a quick, obviously forced apology, which is exactly what they said Imus should have done. And you could tell they didn't even want to do that. So the critics can shut the fuck up. They did it to keep their jobs and you would have done the same.

I have an idea: Create a subforum that is dedicated to criticism and other obnoxious anti-O&A crap. Your criticism doesn't help the show because it is unorganized and inconsistent, and no one cares about one person's opinion.

Create a subforum for these asses!

[wes mantooth]

Ron Kind is the Wrong Kind.

Stop shouting.

[Rev]

WBL, please let Op know there's allot of us eating our own on this. I don't want this board to receive something to the effect of his lashing of Dougout Doug recently. There's allot of dedicated fans in this community.

[greg1022b]

Ron Kind is the Wrong Kind.

Stop shouting.
dru boogie's fatboy remix of ron kind was 1 of his best pieces of work :D

[habeasrob]

I have a suggestion for those who feel the need to criticise the show over this situation... go the fuck away for a day or two.
I'm sure this board doesnt need your traffic, your contributions, your fucking whining.
Got a problem with them apologizing? Go away.
Don't care if this jeopordizes the CBS portion (even though it's all at stake)? Really, just go away.


Unfortunately, alot will.

[styckx]

Wow, font down

[Rev]

Unfortunately, alot will.Good riddance then.

[Ron Kind]

Good riddance then.

Hello exactly!

[Ron Kind]

Ron Kind is the Wrong Kind.

Stop shouting.
Fine. The point still stands.

[greg1022b]

Wow, font down there, Carl Capitalization
[stevec]nononononono[stevec] i'm not lettin u off the hook that easily

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/6655/0908carwideweb430x3164sx.jpg

[habeasrob]

Nothing would be better then to see the boys survive this thing and Stern not get a chance to put in his two cents because he had Friday off...


The fact that Stern has not appearred anywhere to provide input is a clear demonstration of his irrelevance.

[CTOAFan]

Mancow. If anyone wants to know how much of a douche he is, he is the one person that has O&A and Stern and their fans on the same side of the argument and that's quite an accomplishment.

[Ron Kind]

Mancow. If anyone wants to know how much of a douche he is, he is the one person that has O&A and Stern and their fans on the same side of the argument and that's quite an accomplishment.

His appearance on H&C was friggin hilarious. He managed to unite them against him. I wish Hannity had called him out on the "liberal" comment.

[styckx]

The fact that Stern has not appearred anywhere to provide input is a clear demonstration of his irrelevance.

Or a astonishing spark of brilliance. Really, he knows if he pops his head out of the rabbit hole at this point in time, and sees his own shadow, the media might pay attention to him for another 3 weeks

[styckx]

[stevec] i'm not lettin u off the hook that easily

HAHAHAHA you asshole, hahaha, you got me good, I fucking KNEW I bombed soon as I hit submit and quickly edited to erase it.

hahha well deserved w/ that car crash

[VirusCarrier]

Mancow. If anyone wants to know how much of a douche he is, he is the one person that has O&A and Stern and their fans on the same side of the argument and that's quite an accomplishment.
Mancow = The Great Uniter ... at least on this issue.

fuck ... <carcrash>

[greg1022b]

HAHAHAHA you asshole, hahaha, you got me good, I fucking KNEW I bombed soon as I hit submit and quickly edited to erase it.

hahha well deserved w/ that car crash

must say i enjoyed that [obnoxious laugh]

[OvaHere]

That's the question we face everytime a jock (or we!) get fired and the climate of radio changes. Even a few years back it was very hard to get a clip of a show that you found offensive out to a large number of people.
These days...point, click, done. Strange and scary days indeed.
I don't really have an answer for you. I just hope, like all the other times, we are creative enough to overcome the restrictions that are put in place and can do a good show. If we can't we'll be gone anyway.
We will see won't we.

Just let us know the URL of your daily/weekly podcast if the shit hits the fan.

[Rev]

Just let us know the URL of your daily/weekly podcast if the shit hits the fan.God forbid it comes to that, I'll be listening... without complaints.

[Ron Kind]

Considering that my XM unit has become a 202 box, I would pay the same for a podcast.

[Rev]

Considering that my XM unit has become a 202 box, I would pay the same for a podcast.X2!

[styckx]

Considering that my XM unit has become a 202 box, I would pay the same for a podcast.

Theres more then just 202 on this XM thing?

[Mizzeaux]

Theres more then just 202 on this XM thing?

I've heard something about a Canadian Comedy Channel.

[Ron Kind]

They've got L-L-L-L-Lasers.

Also, there's that show where "one is from the old school, the other is still IN school."

Also, "tell 'em about the discount, Harry!" Why couldn't they have dropped their sponsorship?!?!!?

[Rev]

I've heard something about a Canadian Comedy Channel.Yeah, it's on channel Twoonie o' Twoonie.

[ILOVEUWxx]

Considering that my XM unit has become a 202 box, I would pay the same for a podcast.

If the shit hits the fan, count me in too.

[DoucheSatchel]

In all honesty, I really would rather that Norton and Friends would just do some type of Net-cast that they only had to answer to themselves for...

Don't they have FU money?
Shouldn't that be enough to cover start=up costs?
I'd rather pay them directly anyway, especially now that XM is regulated by who knows what standards....


Just sayin....

[Ron Kind]

In all honesty, I really would rather that Norton and Friends would just do some type of Net-cast that they only had to answer to themselves for...

Don't they have FU money?
Shouldn't that be enough to cover start=up costs?
I'd rather pay them directly anyway, especially now that XM is regulated by who knows what standards....


Just sayin....

I honestly think that all this negative crap will lead to a radical change like this. The audience is there, the demo is web-saavy, and someone out there will want to make some fucking money off of it.

Another consideration is that it is extremely cheap to do a podcast. Bye bye E-rock! (Sorry.)

Can you imagine O&A followed by Lenee D?!

[greg1022b]

They've got L-L-L-L-Lasers.

Also, there's that show where "one is from the old school, the other is still IN school."

Also, "tell 'em about the discount, Harry!" Why couldn't they have dropped their sponsorship?!?!!?

thought u were going for lawsinges there

[mills]

Yeah, it's on channel Twoonie o' Twoonie.
Did you hear the Canadian version of XM 169?

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/421/coonieuo9.jpg

[Rev]

I'm loving how people are posting with "solutions" for the show, and linking their own blog spots.
Leave the heavy lifting to the talent. I think they have a better fix on the situation than any of us do.

[styckx]

Did you hear the Canadian version of XM 169?

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/421/coonieuo9.jpg

"whaa"

[styckx]

I'm loving how people are posting with "solutions" for the show, and linking their own blog spots.
Leave the heavy lifting to the talent. I think they have a better fix on the situation than any of us do.

QFT!

[mills]

"whaa"
2 swings, 2 misses. I'll make it work eventually, dammit!

[Lunchbox420]

Did you hear the Canadian version of XM 169?

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/421/coonieuo9.jpg

Yeah its called the coonie...rawf rawf

[Rev]

2 swings, 2 misses. I'll make it work eventually, dammit!In another thread, please? I could understand the need for brivity here n there. I posted some jokes today as well. Just don't derail the thread.

* meant levity, not brevity.

[styckx]

2 swings, 2 misses. I'll make it work eventually, dammit!

It's making me laugh though, for the wrong reasons, but mission accomplished anyway

[DonTheTrucker]

I honestly think that all this negative crap will lead to a radical change like this. The audience is there, the demo is web-saavy, and someone out there will want to make some fucking money off of it.

Another consideration is that it is extremely cheap to do a podcast. Bye bye E-rock! (Sorry.)

Can you imagine O&A followed by Lenee D?!

Are you insane? Web cast having an audience? 99% of people listen in their cars. Bob Kelly makes fun of his own webast. We're 20-30 years from webcasts being the main form of communication.

[Ron Kind]

Are you insane? Web cast having an audience? 99% of people listen in their cars. Bob Kelly makes fun of his own webast. We're 20-30 years from webcasts being the main form of communication.

I have an ipod. I can listen to it in my car. I also have a blackberry with an always-on internet connection.

I know this is not typical (except for the ipod) but I could do it no problem.

I know O&A can be creative and work around XM restrictions, but I really like the cringe humor. I'm just trying to suggest possibilities that will allow this type of radio to be heard. If you think about it, there is not really a source for this amount of humor in such quantities. It's like watching a five hour comedy show every morning. I'm just trying to come up with options if the climate gets too restrictive.

Also it costs next to nothing to do a podcast. If they charge the same amount and lose 90% of their audience I bet it would be a net gain as far as the money that goes to them.

[DonTheTrucker]

I have an ipod. I can listen to it in my car. I also have a blackberry with an always-on internet connection.

I know this is not typical (except for the ipod) but I could do it no problem.

Most people who listen wouldn't bother. We're not the average fan and we're not even 1% of the total O&A audience.

[greg1022b]

Are you insane? Web cast having an audience? 99% of people listen in their cars. Bob Kelly makes fun of his own webast. We're 20-30 years from webcasts being the main form of communication.

you make a good point there, but this is where ipods would come in2 play, and i think its safe to assume that all the o&a fans would download a podcast by the bboys. and no offense to bob kelly, he's hilarious, but i don't think he has the same loyal following as o&a do

wat u haulin 2day?

[styckx]

Webcast = Bye Wackbag/FBA/Any kind of fan interaction

[mills]

I posted some jokes today as well.
Some? Haha ever since wbl laughed at your one joke (which was damned good btw, love the visual of Elo staring, hitting crash button, then going back to staring, from 10 feet away), you've bombed about 30 times :action-sm

[greg1022b]

Webcast = Bye Wackbag/FBA/Any kind of fan interaction

you think?

[styckx]

Some? Haha ever since wbl laughed at your one joke (which was damned good btw, love the visual of Elo staring, hitting crash button, then going back to staring, from 10 feet away), you've bombed about 30 times :action-sm

You know though, it's the few of us just rolling with the punches that is making wackbag fun throughout this dark times for o&a. You really can't take it all serious all the time, what the fuck is the fun in that

[Ron Kind]

Webcast = Bye Wackbag/FBA/Any kind of fan interaction
There's a podcast called Keith and the Girl that takes calls all the time.

[greg1022b]

*cough* carl capitalization *cough*

not rubbing it in ;)

[styckx]

*cough* carl capitalization *cough*

not rubbing it in ;)

You know greg you really should post here more often, you're one of the rare posting out of no where for a real long time people who "get it"

/no homo

[O&A_Fan]

Well, i finally got an email from John Mainelli. Here's what it said. Nice. At least he said that THEY appreciate the support too, eh?


From: "Mainelli, John" <jmainelli@923freefm.com>
Date: 2007/05/11 Fri PM 12:14:39 CDT
Subject: RE: O&A CENSORSHIP

Thanks for your support. O&A seriously appreciate it. And so do we.

-- John Mainelli (Program Director, Free FM)

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:34 PM
To: Mainelli, John
Cc: Mateo, Karen L; Chiusano, Tom; eric.logan@xmradio.com;
Hugh.Panero@xmradio.com; Gary.Parsons@xmradio.com
Subject: O&A CENSORSHIP

I am a hardcore fan of the O & A show and it sickens me to think that
they might be cancelled or fired over the ramblings of a homeless black
man. They are comedic geniuses and are the only reason I listen to XM
radio. If their show is cancelled, I, among many many others, will be
cancelling our XM services. We will boycott any supporters of XM if
they are taken off the air. You shouldn't let some stupid ramblings
affect whether or not they can continue their careers on XM. It isn't
like he was on FreeFM radio saying what he said, it was stated on XM,
which is a PAY service. Let the subscribers decide what they do and
don't want to hear. They can turn it off or cancel their service if
they don't want to hear it. I am just sick to death of all this crap.
Take a stand for them yourselves, XM, if you support them. They are the
top show ON XM and should be granted your support since they make the
real money for your company. They're the real reason most people
subscribe to XM. They get a taste of them on Free FM and subscribe to
XM to hear more of the boys. I hope you will make the wise decision
here and keep them on the air.

Sincerely,
Tammy X XXXXXXX

[styckx]

Well, i finally got an email from John Mainelli. Here's what it said. Nice. At least he said that THEY appreciate the support too, eh?


From: "Mainelli, John" <jmainelli@923freefm.com>
Date: 2007/05/11 Fri PM 12:14:39 CDT
Subject: RE: O&A CENSORSHIP

Thanks for your support. O&A seriously appreciate it. And so do we.

-- John Mainelli (Program Director, Free FM)

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:34 PM
To: Mainelli, John
Cc: Mateo, Karen L; Chiusano, Tom; eric.logan@xmradio.com;
Hugh.Panero@xmradio.com; Gary.Parsons@xmradio.com
Subject: O&A CENSORSHIP

I am a hardcore fan of the O & A show and it sickens me to think that
they might be cancelled or fired over the ramblings of a homeless black
man. They are comedic geniuses and are the only reason I listen to XM
radio. If their show is cancelled, I, among many many others, will be
cancelling our XM services. We will boycott any supporters of XM if
they are taken off the air. You shouldn't let some stupid ramblings
affect whether or not they can continue their careers on XM. It isn't
like he was on FreeFM radio saying what he said, it was stated on XM,
which is a PAY service. Let the subscribers decide what they do and
don't want to hear. They can turn it off or cancel their service if
they don't want to hear it. I am just sick to death of all this crap.
Take a stand for them yourselves, XM, if you support them. They are the
top show ON XM and should be granted your support since they make the
real money for your company. They're the real reason most people
subscribe to XM. They get a taste of them on Free FM and subscribe to
XM to hear more of the boys. I hope you will make the wise decision
here and keep them on the air.

Sincerely,
Tammy X XXXXXXX

Form Letter..

[greg1022b]

You know greg you really should post here more often, you're one of the rare posting out of no where for a real long time people who "get it"

/no homo

i would've long time ago, but senior year got me caught up with end of year college entry exams(unfortunately we don't just do a simple SAT here) now that thats over i finally have time for message boards :D

frrrrrrrrrunkus!

[greg1022b]

Well, i finally got an email from John Mainelli. Here's what it said. Nice. At least he said that THEY appreciate the support too, eh?


From: "Mainelli, John" <jmainelli@923freefm.com>
Date: 2007/05/11 Fri PM 12:14:39 CDT
Subject: RE: O&A CENSORSHIP

Thanks for your support. O&A seriously appreciate it. And so do we.

-- John Mainelli (Program Director, Free FM)

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:34 PM
To: Mainelli, John
Cc: Mateo, Karen L; Chiusano, Tom; eric.logan@xmradio.com;
Hugh.Panero@xmradio.com; Gary.Parsons@xmradio.com
Subject: O&A CENSORSHIP

I am a hardcore fan of the O & A show and it sickens me to think that
they might be cancelled or fired over the ramblings of a homeless black
man. They are comedic geniuses and are the only reason I listen to XM
radio. If their show is cancelled, I, among many many others, will be
cancelling our XM services. We will boycott any supporters of XM if
they are taken off the air. You shouldn't let some stupid ramblings
affect whether or not they can continue their careers on XM. It isn't
like he was on FreeFM radio saying what he said, it was stated on XM,
which is a PAY service. Let the subscribers decide what they do and
don't want to hear. They can turn it off or cancel their service if
they don't want to hear it. I am just sick to death of all this crap.
Take a stand for them yourselves, XM, if you support them. They are the
top show ON XM and should be granted your support since they make the
real money for your company. They're the real reason most people
subscribe to XM. They get a taste of them on Free FM and subscribe to
XM to hear more of the boys. I hope you will make the wise decision
here and keep them on the air.

Sincerely,
Tammy X XXXXXXX

yea....that was yesterday

[Ron Kind]

Form Letter..

I got the same email.

[ezstevey]

my fucking brother keeps saying that they shouldnt have apologized and I just tell him would you rather have an awesome radio show to listen to or a couple of guys with "integrity" being thrown off the air...OnA are smart, theyll bite the bullet in order to save the show and thats fine with me

[One_Nut_Jew_Bag]

Did anyone else hear the "ass-kiss sound" made on mic after Anthony issued the apology on CBS?

[patbattlefield]

Did anyone else hear the "ass-kiss sound" made on mic after Anthony issued the apology on CBS?

as much as I think the apology was a mistake there is no need to trash the boys like this. They were forced into an impossible situation. Posts like this are not going to help us move forward. Regardless of our individual thoughts and opinions about how this all played out, and is still playing out, we are still fans of the show and comments like these are not constructive to the show. Focus your anger on XM. They are the ones who made the decision to force an apology out of O&A using their jobs as leverage. Put yourself in O&A'S shoes.

[dodisman]

Did anyone else hear the "ass-kiss sound" made on mic after Anthony issued the apology on CBS?


http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2009/chripii6.gif

[gynecometrist]

my fucking brother keeps saying that they shouldnt have apologized and I just tell him would you rather have an awesome radio show to listen to o