O&A in their own words.

[vcdburn]

O&A in their own words.

http://www.screamingmonkeys.com/10272004_oa_mcenroe.wmv

[O&A_Fan]

wow. Well, if the suspension WAS a publicity stunt to get more fans and more subscribers after they are back, it was cleverly thought out. I am not sure that I'm buying it though but I guess it IS possible.

At any rate, I'll be glad to hear them back live on XM.

[TallBaby]

Anyone remember this gem?

Look at what the show is promoted as.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SgH7Ij7SyI&mode=related&search=

[Mother Shucker]

I don't get it. Three year old clip means...................?

[abudabit]

O&A in their own words.

http://www.screamingmonkeys.com/10272004_oa_mcenroe.wmv

Couldn't view it, kept on buffering. What was it about?

[vcdburn]

I don't get it. Three year old clip means...................?


No, I know it's old, but it the whole XM thing was Uncensored, it was always sold that way. Also it's nice to see the boys happy.

[GoodDaySir]

I don't get it. Three year old clip means...................?

I think the point was that every time there was some sort of punishment levied they came back bigger than before.

[Dumfuk]

didnt work for me either

[Risquit]

That interview goes back a bit. Too bad the political environment is completely different now.

[ringofhonor88]

ok?

[Xyn]

I blame Kramer for all this.

[abudabit]

I blame pussies in XM management.

[Mr_Beer]

I blame pussies in XM management.

Nail on the head

[ern]

I think their bargaining techniques may be the best in the business. If this is what it is.

They also commented several times how they got fired/out of their contracts for the April fool deal with the mayor.

I don't know anything, I'm just another ass with a keyboard, but their track record speaks volumes.

[jagsfans]

I;m listening to some 2004 shows during the 30 days. They really were talking up the uncensored. Anyone remember Ant's, "We've made light of Adam Walsh's head" comment?

[GoodDaySir]

Just speculatin'...imagine if this was some sort of rouse to separate themselves from the FreeFM contract, especially with the new studio being built and all. Why build a new studio for just two hours of radio? There are those rumors of FreeFM stations dropping the talk formats and all. Maybe at some point the FreeFm guys go, "I'm not sure we want to associate ourselves with the O&A show", drop them and go back to an XM only show that turns into a better show than before.

Besides, there were certain things that Homeless Charlie had said that, in retrospect, do strike me as odd coming from a homeless dude. When Bill Burr asked him, "what do you advocate", he goes, "Freedom...say what you want, do what you want as long as you ain't hurtin' nobody" and "this fuckin' country's turned into a bunch of pussies". That statement seemed a bit too timely. He was fuckin' hilarious but it just makes you wonder.

The entire thing is bizarre from the uproar over what Charlie said to what caused this suspension. Absolutely none of this makes any sense at all. I'll still be big on canceling the radios just in case but there's a lot of things here that just make you wonder is all.

[wetsticky frank]

Couldn't view it, kept on buffering. What was it about?

didnt work for me either

Right click on the link and 'save as'. It will download for viewing at your leisure. Hope this helps.

[O&A_Fan]

I think the point was that every time there was some sort of punishment levied they came back bigger than before.

Yes, and that was the point original poster of this thread was getting at. They are suspended now, but when they do come back next month, they will be bigger than ever b/c of the publicity. Some people, believe it or not, don't know much about XM radio.

So when they see on the news that some guys got suspended from XM for having a homeless guy on their show speaking about r*a*p*i*n*g political women (yeah, i know they didn't get suspended exactly for that, but every news station brings that into the equation that it stemmed from that). But if someone hears that kind of stuff on the news, even if they've never heard of O&A, they're going to tune in when they come back just to see what the boys are like for real. Thus, more fans are born.

So the publicity is actually good for them, in the long run. I can't see XM firing them because they have such a wide fan base and it's spreading.... just like the virus.

[abudabit]

I can't see XM firing them because they have such a wide fan base and it's spreading.... just like the virus.

I couldn't see XM suspending them either. :action-sm Shit happens.

[O&A_Fan]

I couldn't see XM suspending them either. :action-sm Shit happens.

Well, I didn't see it coming either, but it is a suspension, not a firing. The're supposedly coming back after 30 days.

This is the dicks at XM's way of pushing their weight around, that's all.

Now they're suffering financially for it.

[abudabit]

Yep. Never going back to XM whether they bring O&A back or not.

[RoleModel]

I blame the juden.

:action-sm

[O&A_Fan]

That's your decision, man. Everyone has to make their own.

[O&A_Fan]

I blame Earl.

[abudabit]

That's your decision, man. Everyone has to make their own.

Yeah, I can't blame you if you'd rather give money to a censoring back stabbing company like XM than get O&A for free off the net. I don't understand why you would, but to each their own. :p

[en12384]

Just speculatin'...imagine if this was some sort of rouse to separate themselves from the FreeFM contract, especially with the new studio being built and all. Why build a new studio for just two hours of radio? There are those rumors of FreeFM stations dropping the talk formats and all. Maybe at some point the FreeFm guys go, "I'm not sure we want to associate ourselves with the O&A show", drop them and go back to an XM only show that turns into a better show than before.

Besides, there were certain things that Homeless Charlie had said that, in retrospect, do strike me as odd coming from a homeless dude. When Bill Burr asked him, "what do you advocate", he goes, "Freedom...say what you want, do what you want as long as you ain't hurtin' nobody" and "this fuckin' country's turned into a bunch of pussies". That statement seemed a bit too timely. He was fuckin' hilarious but it just makes you wonder.

The entire thing is bizarre from the uproar over what Charlie said to what caused this suspension. Absolutely none of this makes any sense at all. I'll still be big on canceling the radios just in case but there's a lot of things here that just make you wonder is all.

you mean the studio that was supose to be finished at the end of their 2 week vacation? The same studio that was pushed back to be completed some time in early june? Interesting!;)

[jagsfans]

Yeah, I can't blame you if you'd rather give money to a censoring back stabbing company like XM than get O&A for free off the net. I don't understand why you would, but to each their own. :p

Because if you truly appreciate O&A you will support the company paying them and airing them. Even if you disagree the company. Stealing the show is not just hurting XM it's hurting O&A.

[O&A_Fan]

Yeah, I can't blame you if you'd rather give money to a censoring back stabbing company like XM than get O&A for free off the net. I don't understand why you would, but to each their own. :p

Yeah, I don't understand why one would want to financially support the guys they claim to love by paying to listen to them when they can rip them from the net for free.

[MadMex07]

I blame Earl.


You can't blame someone who doesn't do anything.

[hfflstci]

Yep. Never going back to XM whether they bring O&A back or not.
That is my thought process to. If the boys come back and everyone jumps right back on board with XM than I don't think XM will learn their lesson. They will just look at it like it was a bad month.

[O&A_Fan]

Because if you truly appreciate O&A you will support the company paying them and airing them. Even if you disagree the company. Stealing the show is not just hurting XM it's hurting O&A.


Exactly. Thanks for wording that better than I did.... :haha7:

[O&A_Fan]

That is my thought process to. If the boys come back and everyone jumps right back on board with XM than I don't think XM will learn their lesson. They will just look at it like it was a bad month.

Yeah, and they will also look at it like, "we gotta keep these guys around or we're going to lose MAJOR $$$$$$$"

[Grem]

I would love it it was a hoax, especially if you are one of the people that smashed their radios.

But somehow I doubt this is the case.

[hfflstci]

Yeah, and they will also look at it like, "we gotta keep these guys around or we're going to lose MAJOR $$$$$$$"
Yeah I guess your right I never looked at it that way

[GoodDaySir]

That's what makes this so different. It's not a case where the station fires it's talent in order to keep sponsors on board. It's a case of where the service has to keep it's top talent in order to keep it's subscriber base on board.

They just generated a shit ton of publicity, not unlike the Mayor Menino thing and not unlike the Sex for Sam. Each time this happened they came back bigger and better. In this case it'll be to stay on board XM only and come back better than before. Besides...what station has it's hosts fired, seemingly everyone has heard about it but it's never made official? And don't you think that XM would interpret all of this as a host opening his mouth and just come out and fire them for this? And this whole thing of, "until they understand the severity" reeks a lot of a parent who's trying to control the kid.

And if I'm wrong Ant's reading my post wanting to give me a big ol' "fuck you" :)

Hey...I miss the shit out of the show, it's wishful thinking but I firmly believe we're getting the boys back and gettin' 'em back better. Fuck I hope I'm right.

[O&A_Fan]

I hope you're right too.

I'm pretty confident in them being back.

And I'm pretty sure, even tho he hasn't posted, that Ant is reading the board daily. He's on my buddy list and his name has changed twice. I've not sent him one message b/c I respect his privacy and if he's not posting, he's probably not answering PM's either.

This is something we will just have to wait out.

I am hoping they get to come back early.... that would be great. :)

[FreeSpeech202]

well regardless if they wait it out for the whole 30 days or not, I just hope that things don't change. After all, they do it because they love to do the show. Not because they need to do it. I think whether they are on XM or not, the show will go on. I just hope it is somewhere that I can hear it here in Texas. Godspeed O&A!

[STARTSOMETHING]

Anyone remember this gem?

Look at what the show is promoted as.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SgH7Ij7SyI&mode=related&search=


that makes me want to puke after this 30 day suspension

[abudabit]

I would love it it was a hoax, especially if you are one of the people that smashed their radios.

But somehow I doubt this is the case.

You would be happy if it were a hoax? If it were a hoax you'd hear a whole lot more radios getting smashed.

[abudabit]

Yeah, I don't understand why one would want to financially support the guys they claim to love by paying to listen to them when they can rip them from the net for free.

Financially support? What the heck are you talking about? They're millionaires and they get paid no matter whether we pay for XM or not. They're in a 3 year contract and they get paid for that contract whether they have 1 listener or 5 million and when those 3 years end if they're still working for XM I won't respect them. I like O&A's show, I don't love them. I love free speech, I love companies that don't cater to groups like NOW who aren't even subscribers.

I mean what kind of lunacy is this? XM fucked the customer in the ass and all you can talk about is getting money to O&A? What about yourself? Don't you care about your own dignity that XM insulted? How about download O&A's show and paypal them some money directly? What's Than's email? I'll send him some money. I won't give 1 penny to XM again though.

[CTDennis85]

Financially support? What the heck are you talking about? They're millionaires and they get paid no matter whether we pay for XM or not. They're in a 3 year contract and they get paid for that contract whether they have 1 listener or 5 million and when those 3 years end if they're still working for XM I won't respect them. I like O&A's show, I don't love them. I love free speech, I love companies that don't cater to groups like NOW who aren't even subscribers.

I mean what kind of lunacy is this? XM fucked the customer in the ass and all you can talk about is getting money to O&A? What about yourself? Don't you care about your own dignity that XM insulted? How about download O&A's show and paypal them some money directly? What's Than's email? I'll send him some money. I won't give 1 penny to XM again though.


It's not financially supporting O&A in their wallets.... It's keeping them on the air by giving them the ratings/earnings they need to bring in to ensure a show still exists....

We protested because they took them off and said we wouldn't go back until they were put back on the air.....I thought the idea was telling a company what WE want... instead of the other way around.... and giving them the chance to follow through with that by giving them our money when the show is back (if it's back)...

If you dumped your subscription for purposes other than bringing O&A back then I guess I understand.... But a lot of us did it to bring the show back... and thus will be bringing our cash back if they're back...

[abudabit]

Yeah, I dumped my subscription to fight XM. I would prefer that O&A not be put back on XM (since I will never be an XM customer again). The optimum situation is that XM some how breaks the contract and O&A get paid and get to do a full radio show on CBS or what ever service they want.

I'm getting O&A one way or the other. If what ever medium they are on does not allow me to get them on the up and up I will get them by other means.

[CTDennis85]

Yeah... well that's cool... we all gotta do what we gotta do.... I definitely understand why you wouldn't wanna pay XM again.....

[BeersOnTheBoat]

Yeah, I dumped my subscription to fight XM. I would prefer that O&A not be put back on XM (since I will never be an XM customer again). The optimum situation is that XM some how breaks the contract and O&A get paid and get to do a full radio show on CBS or what ever service they want.

I'm getting O&A one way or the other. If what ever medium they are on does not allow me to get them on the up and up I will get them by other means.

Yea, that CBS show is wwaaaayyyy better than anything the every did on XM

[richwithhatred]

XM can choke on a bag of dicks, but that statement just isn't true, sir! The 4 hour XM only show was, without question, the very best year the boys ever, ever did on radio!

Yea, that CBS show is wwaaaayyyy better than anything the every did on XM

[BeersOnTheBoat]

XM can choke on a bag of dicks, but that statement just isn't true, sir! The 4 hour XM only show was, without question, the very best year the boys ever, ever did on radio!
WHat, you didn't pick up the sarcasm?

[ezstevey]

Anyone remember this gem?

Look at what the show is promoted as.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SgH7Ij7SyI&mode=related&search=

so fucking true

[abudabit]

Yea, that CBS show is wwaaaayyyy better than anything the every did on XM

Dude, I completely agree that the XM show was better. But XM made a promise of uncensored and didn't just break the promise but they broke it and fucked over the customer by taking O&A away. Either for some bullshit merger which should be blocked or because Hugh felt like swinging his dick. What ever the reasons, fuck XM.

And let's say they aren't fired. On the 15th we get to look forward to a neutered show. They say anything controversial and some special interest group will complain, and as Hugh said in an email to CokeLogic the suspension won't end until they show how seriously they take the concerns of those special interest groups. In the end we have the CBS show on XM except they get to say 'fuck'. And it will be so douche chilly listening to them pinned down and not able to say a damn thing about it lest they get pulled off the radio for 3 years (the contract with XM is 3 years). It will be embarrassing and painful. At least CBS have an excuse to be pussies. XM has none but they still act like it.

The shit just bugs me, the NOW's and Rainbow coalitions smell blood now that O&A have been suspended on an XM XL channel. There is no going back now that the precedent has been set. That's why I just want XM to break the contract so O&A can go free. I'd rather see O&A gagged on FM than XM.

[ern]

I'm confused.

So, if O&A return to XM, all the fans that cancelled their subs aren't coming back either right? I would think it would defeat their point.

BUt if the point of all of this was for O&A to prove after 30 days how many "new" fans they could put on XM (since there is a merger going on with their long time friend involved), then the cancellers would have to rejoin.

If O&A don't come back to XM, and I keep my XM sub to listen to R&F and some music channels like squizz and ethel, I don't support free speech?

Whether they go on XM or CBS, I am sure they will be making alot of money either way.

For a point of clarification, I live in the sticks, so cancelling my XM to listen to three different radio stations isn't really an option any longer. And yes I know I could spend countless hours downloading music and talk shows onto another electronic device to then take with me into my car, which happens to have a radio/XM unit in it.

[JaxxPack]

XM can choke on a bag of dicks, but that statement just isn't true, sir! The 4 hour XM only show was, without question, the very best year the boys ever, ever did on radio!

Absolutely. The XM show let them, and me as a listener, blow off steam. I was in amazed at the way they, escecially Lil' Jimmy, were able to adapt.

Plus I like hearing FUCK come out of my radio.

That's freedom.

Now it's gone.:mad4:

[Natesac]

I blame Arch. :action-sm

[O&A_Fan]

Yeah, I dumped my subscription to fight XM. I would prefer that O&A not be put back on XM (since I will never be an XM customer again). The optimum situation is that XM some how breaks the contract and O&A get paid and get to do a full radio show on CBS or what ever service they want.

I'm getting O&A one way or the other. If what ever medium they are on does not allow me to get them on the up and up I will get them by other means.

Yeah, you go ahead and not subscribe to XM when they get put back on the air. Download your stuff for free just like every other hack out there that wants a free ride thru life.

If supporting O&A means paying XM when they get put back on the air, then so be it. Most people cancelled there service until O&A are back on air. That was their choice. You've made yours so stop judging those of us that have made ours to financially support the bbbbboys and to help them keep their ratings up by listening to them on XM instead of pirating them elsewhere where they don't get the ratings for people listening as they do on XM.

At least the cocksuckers at XM will know they can't take them off the air without repercussions.

[O&A_Fan]

Absolutely. The XM show let them, and me as a listener, blow off steam. I was in amazed at the way they, escecially Lil' Jimmy, were able to adapt.

Plus I like hearing FUCK come out of my radio.

That's freedom.

Now it's gone.:mad4:


Not true (unless you're talking about the fact that you no longer have service). But I'm referring to Ron & Fez still say it on a daily basis after O&A's suspension. They still have the freedom to swear like that, as I am sure O&A will still be able to say it when they come back.

The freedom to say it is still there, is what I'm saying.

[BeersOnTheBoat]

Dude, I completely agree that the XM show was better. But XM made a promise of uncensored and didn't just break the promise but they broke it and fucked over the customer by taking O&A away. Either for some bullshit merger which should be blocked or because Hugh felt like swinging his dick. What ever the reasons, fuck XM.

And let's say they aren't fired. On the 15th we get to look forward to a neutered show. They say anything controversial and some special interest group will complain, and as Hugh said in an email to CokeLogic the suspension won't end until they show how seriously they take the concerns of those special interest groups. In the end we have the CBS show on XM except they get to say 'fuck'. And it will be so douche chilly listening to them pinned down and not able to say a damn thing about it lest they get pulled off the radio for 3 years (the contract with XM is 3 years). It will be embarrassing and painful. At least CBS have an excuse to be pussies. XM has none but they still act like it.

The shit just bugs me, the NOW's and Rainbow coalitions smell blood now that O&A have been suspended on an XM XL channel. There is no going back now that the precedent has been set. That's why I just want XM to break the contract so O&A can go free. I'd rather see O&A gagged on FM than XM.

Hhmmm....well, according to the Tin Foil Hat crowd on the board you wish will come true. XM will dump O&A, who knows will replace them, and you'll have all the TRULY censored O&A you can stand on CBS listening to Ant spend 10 minutes trying not describe a blow job (in between commercials, of course. And, to top it off CBS will eventually fire them. So after they've been fired from terresterial three times and kicked off Sat. where will we be able to listen to them then?

Is the end game to listen to A&O do a really good, funny entertaining show, or to prove a point? Its a friggin radio show for Christ Sake.

[Tbones]

I'm starting to think they did this on purpose. They had to have known what they said (basically mocking the apology) on the 5/14 show was going to lead to a suspension or firing.
I mean, if XM really did have a gag order on them (back then on 5/14); the consequences were probably written down in black and white on a piece of paper.

The question is why do it, if you know what will happen? My guess would be, they are standing up and fighting rather than backing down like Imus did. They know what the Pests will do as well. They want to fight all the Post-Imus bullshit and win. They must think with our help this can be accomplished. I think it can be accomplished too.

The above was just more speculation, but after thinking it over, that is where I'm leaning with all this.

Well, time to write some more letters and snail mail them to XM.

[O&A_Fan]

I'm starting to think they did this on purpose. They had to have known what they said (basically mocking the apology) on the 5/14 show was going to lead to a suspension or firing.
I mean, if XM really did have a gag order on them (back then on 5/14); the consequences were probably written down in black and white on a piece of paper.

The question is why do it, if you know what will happen? My guess would be, they are standing up and fighting rather than backing down like Imus did. They know what the Pests will do as well. They want to fight all the Post-Imus bullshit and win. They must think with our help this can be accomplished. I think it can be accomplished too.

The above was just more speculation, but after thinking it over, that is where I'm leaning with all this.

Well, time to write some more letters and snail mail them to XM.

That's a possibility, I guess. But I don't see why Ant's sister & Opie's brother would be soooo against the suspension if they knew this was a plan made by their brothers.... unless they don't know..... *plays Twilight Zone music*

[TEXAS TRUCKER]

Ron Bennington said on air the other day that he thought it was pointless expanding the studio now. I take that as a message that he knows they will NOT be back. He mentioned how he and Fez love the studio the way it is. Just sayin'.

Also, just possibly......XM has agreed to pay off thier contracts in full IF....they keep silent until after the stockholders meeting and the merger approval.

The bottom line here is not free speech or crude comments. It is MONEY! Only MONEY!