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Tryaluckystrike
05-19-2007, 05:42 PM
Just curious if any of the hardcore R&F fans are taking a stand for the boys by cancelling their XM accounts.
Have they indicated that they're pulling out (and will stick with FREEFM R&F or free downloads) or are they just pleased that XM 202 will soon become "The Buddays"?
styckx
05-19-2007, 05:43 PM
Just curious if any of the hardcore R&F fans are taking a stand for the boys by cancelling their XM accounts.
Have they indicated that they're pulling out (and will stick with FREEFM R&F or free downloads) or are they just pleased that XM 202 will soon become "The Buddays"?
oh, .net nevermind
I don't go there
DaTruck
05-19-2007, 05:51 PM
Isn't .net full of cock pics and asscaves? What ever happened to that?
abudabit
05-19-2007, 05:53 PM
Some are canceling, some aren't. They all support O&A of course.
BOUGHTONII
05-19-2007, 06:14 PM
they want to know who opie and anthony are.
they are happy ron and fez got their own channel though
cozzie
05-19-2007, 06:16 PM
i go there maybe once or twice a week, they are a R&F fan site, so i'd guess the support O&A, but they have their XM's for R&F. If the shoe was on the other foot and it was R&F going through this hell, would all the baggers be raising this much hell?
abudabit
05-19-2007, 06:25 PM
Probably not, unfortunately. We would raise hell, but not this much hell.
Jack Russell
05-19-2007, 06:52 PM
Although I somewhat enjoy their show, its not O&A and I will not go back to XM to just hear them.
O&A_Fan
05-19-2007, 06:59 PM
Although I somewhat enjoy their show, its not O&A and I will not go back to XM to just hear them.
I must admit, I'm a message board whore. I go to each one.
This one daily, several times a day.
STI usually daily, sometimes every other day.
FBA usually daily, sometimes every other day....
RonFez.net a few times a week.
I actually started OUT on RonFez.net b/c I used to like Ron & Fez better. I like them and O&A equally now so I frequent all the boards and post on them all. I would support Ron & Fez in the same manner as I've supported O&A.
daytona
05-19-2007, 07:03 PM
i go there maybe once or twice a week, they are a R&F fan site, so i'd guess the support O&A, but they have their XM's for R&F. If the shoe was on the other foot and it was R&F going through this hell, would all the baggers be raising this much hell?
i think if the shoe was currently on the other foot, we wouldn't be. however, i think that after this if it ever happens to them, we will fight just as strongly
vaglvr
05-19-2007, 07:03 PM
I kind of get where the rf.netters that don't cancel are coming from. From ron and fez's perspective it could be like your fucking them by cancelling. I pretty much only post on rf.net, but I think you have to look at the bigger picture. I cancelled as soon as I heard. It's the only way they are going to listen.
tstlkevanilla
05-19-2007, 07:04 PM
I must admit, I'm a message board whore. I go to each one.
This one daily, several times a day.
STI usually daily, sometimes every other day.
FBA usually daily, sometimes every other day....
RonFez.net a few times a week.
thanks for breaking it down for me...I've always wondered.. :rolleyes:
vaglvr
05-19-2007, 07:05 PM
i go there maybe once or twice a week, they are a R&F fan site, so i'd guess the support O&A, but they have their XM's for R&F. If the shoe was on the other foot and it was R&F going through this hell, would all the baggers be raising this much hell?
Yeah that's probably the biggest thing, but I think you have to look at it that it is Opie and Anthony's channel. If they get shit canned things don't look good for Ron and Fez.
OAPartyCrock
05-19-2007, 07:22 PM
I think, some are some aren't.
I'm sure Ron and Fez are concerned about people cancelling because there is a lot of crossover in the audience.
But... they havent asked people to keep their subs.
I think that make a statement.
BadGuy
05-19-2007, 07:31 PM
I think, some are some aren't.
I'm sure Ron and Fez are concerned about people cancelling because there is a lot of crossover in the audience.
But... they havent asked people to keep their subs.
I think that make a statement.
I don't think Ron & Fez are allowed to say shit regarding the O&A thing.
zagman76
05-19-2007, 07:32 PM
RF.net are primarily RF fans. Sure, there are a lot of cross-over fans as well, but if their sole reason for getting XM was R&F, then they have every right to keep their subs.
RF.net is a great site, and we have NO issues with them at all, so don't start going down that road :)
cozzie
05-19-2007, 07:34 PM
I think, some are some aren't.
I'm sure Ron and Fez are concerned about people cancelling because there is a lot of crossover in the audience.
But... they havent asked people to keep their subs.
I think that make a statement.
very nice statement, Ronnie B understands the pests , and I would bet to say that he might somewhat support us, even though he has alot less listeners now than he had a few days ago. He also loves Wackbag for the greatest thread ever------ Ronnie B's line of the day !!
abudabit
05-19-2007, 07:42 PM
RonFez.net are internet buddays.
cozzie
05-19-2007, 07:44 PM
Miss soundboard Fezzie
abudabit
05-19-2007, 07:47 PM
Miss message board WBL.
cozzie
05-19-2007, 07:50 PM
bit you mail any letters today , i sent out 40
moochcassidy
05-19-2007, 07:55 PM
i think most are hoping to wait it out. which is a mistake in my opinion
but ive noticed ron mention a few things here and there. a caller was bitchin and he replied something like 'if you wanna help..join the exodus'.
one thing is for sure he def hasnt said ANYTHING to suggest supporting XM. his hands are tied but i reckon he would want r&f fans to cancel and support O&A.
as a ronfez.netter at heart im a bit disappointed with the lack of solidarity. they dont seem to realise that ron and fez's necks are on the line here too.
Zenbean
05-19-2007, 07:59 PM
If you don't think R&F 100% support all the people cancelling their subs, then you just don't get the relationship between O&A and R&F. But if you're all waiting for Ron to get on the radio and openly support cancellation even when it would likely cost him his XM gig, then I'd suggest holding your breath... It's likely the same reason why O&A themselves haven't openly commented on the suspension and the support of their pests.
If you're curious about what's happening over at .net, why not just go over there and read the posts? I don't listen to O&A but am a die hard R&F fan, and all three of my subs got cancelled immediately. Everyone pretty much all support O&A and understand the implications of just simply being happy that R&F are still on the air.
abudabit
05-19-2007, 08:00 PM
bit you mail any letters today , i sent out 40
Sent a few merger emails today, not much. Think I'm running out of steam, I can only obsess about a subject for a few days at most. All I can do now is support SU I guess and never re-sub. How about yourself?
Edit Stupid me, missed you saying 40 in the same quote I responded too. :) Very good, who were those to?
Petrol
05-19-2007, 08:00 PM
I started listening to R&F and O&A late 2000, and always loved both shows. I have to admit, I'm more personally invested in Ron and Fez - probably because they are more serial/soap opera in nature. When they moved from NYC to DC I was motivated to find an underground and when they came to XM that was the tipping point for me to subscribe to XM rather than leech off BT or underground.
After mulling it over for a couple days, I canceled my XM service Thursday morning (5-17) for this reason: if XM can't stand behind O&A then they won't support R&F either.
And remember, the official reason for the O&A suspension is for not obeying management and keeping quiet post-apology. But in my book, management wouldn't have asked for either an apology or that they keep quiet.
So, yes. I may be a bit of a pest, but I'm also a huge fan of Ron and Fez, and I've canceled to support them as well.
cozzie
05-19-2007, 08:02 PM
I think that The R&F netters are supporting O&A but they got their xm's to listen to R&F, so you can't expect them to raise as much hell as th baggers
Dumb Bastard
05-19-2007, 09:01 PM
I listen to The Virus primarily for Ron & Fez. On one hand it's nice to have a 3pm replay, but on the other hand the station gets fucking boring when the same show runs every 3 hours and there is no O&A. I get my XM channels through DirecTv, but if I were an XM subscriber I would definitely cancel my subscription. I could get the shows off of alt.bin groups if needed.
FreeSpeech202
05-19-2007, 09:50 PM
In no way is this comment saying that O&A are better than R&F. But I believe that firing O&A is kicking the hornet nest. The firing of R&F would be kicking a wasp nest. Personally, I would cancel if they fired R&F for something like this, as one other bagger said...if they won't stand behind one, they won't stand behind the other. I think its more on principle. Though I have never really participated in the message boards, I have been an O&A fan and subscriber since they started in XM because of course I don't live in NY and couldn't or didn't know about them before. But since then I have been a dedicated listener. I am glad though I can be a part here, and do my part to help bring back O&A and keep 202 as strong as ever.
Ronreddog
05-19-2007, 10:00 PM
Just to mention here, STI, also primarily a Ron & Fez site, have been in high support of O&A. I am a true O&A fan, and have supported them for many years. I also love R&F, but, that did not prevent me from canning XM.
The O&A forum on STI has been posted to more than ever since this fucking bullshit.
I still think that WB is the primary O&A fan site, and will continue my support for OA here also! :)
EvilHomerJ666
05-19-2007, 10:06 PM
Just to mention here, STI, also primarily a Ron & Fez site, have been in high support of O&A. I am a true O&A fan, and have supported them for many years. I also love R&F, but, that did not prevent me from canning XM.
The O&A forum on STI has been posted to more than ever since this fucking bullshit.
I still think that WB is the primary O&A fan site, and will continue my support for OA here also! :)
Ya Ron's a great egg and a damn fine Mod over on STI.
Ronreddog
05-19-2007, 10:16 PM
Ya Ron's a great egg and a damn fine Mod over on STI.
Thanks man! I will ALWAYS support O&A, and I support sites like this, that are all about the SHOW, and the FANS that love the show! :icon_mrgr
FU_Money
05-19-2007, 10:25 PM
Not You>>>
palefishbelly
05-19-2007, 10:53 PM
There is absolutely no question R&F support the boys.
First, when it all went down, Ron said something to the effect of look you all know where to go to vent and discuss, but this show isn't the place, and that's coming from O&A.
Secondly, there have been several sly allusions to the situation which they have snuck in.
-on which animal you could kick to death caller-"I could kick an XM executive to death." Ron after it went throug 1-866-ron0fez
-caller requests "tied to the whipping post" ron singing along "I know how you feel greg." yeah it coulda been greg allman, that's the beauty.
-yesterday ron-"I wished you woulda joined the exodus. do yourself a favor join the PAC."
The buddies are 100% in O&A corner. And some of the fans, but to be fair if they were booted off would you have cancelled and sacrificed your favorite show for them...?
Oh and if you are wondering, yes I cancelled, but there are other ways to listen to XM.
29 year old Dav
05-20-2007, 02:34 AM
I know this is not a time for a stupid message board war, but when I first heard about the suspension WB was down. I went to OA.net not realizing it was primarily R&F fans. Then I went to check out FBA and RF.net. I was shocked at the number of "sucks for the boys but now I get to hear more of the buddays" threads. I have grown a taste for R&F after initially disliking them (everyday at least half of every show is about the people in the studio), but I think their fans are a bit of base.
I dont doubt Ron and Fez's loyalty. The fans of the show need to remember who hands out golden tickets and who receives them though. The difference in whether wackbaggers would cancel is that R&F didnt hand O&A not one but two great gigs.
I'm just sayin
abudabit
05-20-2007, 03:03 AM
oa.net isn't R&F fans, they are just bitter bitches who are angry and O&A. They pretend to be R&F fans so they can have an excuse for why they listen to 202 every day, but if you look at the forum counts the O&A forum has 10x the messages as the R&F forum.
FBA are very similar to wackbag and are also canceling their XMs
Some RF.netters are canceling their XM, most aren't but they all support O&A.
underdog423
05-20-2007, 12:04 PM
I know this is not a time for a stupid message board war, but when I first heard about the suspension WB was down. I went to OA.net not realizing it was primarily R&F fans. Then I went to check out FBA and RF.net. I was shocked at the number of "sucks for the boys but now I get to hear more of the buddays" threads. I have grown a taste for R&F after initially disliking them (everyday at least half of every show is about the people in the studio), but I think their fans are a bit of base.
I dont doubt Ron and Fez's loyalty. The fans of the show need to remember who hands out golden tickets and who receives them though. The difference in whether wackbaggers would cancel is that R&F didnt hand O&A not one but two great gigs.
I'm just sayin
I don't think this is the first time you've posted something like this. rf.net is a huge supporter of what is going on with o&a. I read the site daily, and have yet so see a "hey, this is great for us." In fact, there's plenty of posts of people complaining about Ron and Fez being on 24/7. They're just not running out to cancel their units, especially when most of them got XM for Ron and Fez, and not O&A.
And you make it seem like Ron and Fez owe their careers to Opie and Anthony, when they don't. They've been around forever. O&A got them the XM gig, yes. But it was because they're a great show, not because O&A just wanted to put anyone else on the radio. And they were very successful elsewhere before (including New York, maybe that's a bigger reason why they got FreeFM gig).
Stop trying to start shit.
JohnTheTrucker
05-20-2007, 03:08 PM
I'm not a fan of R&F. I've tried to listen but all the fake bits are too annoying for me. Anyway, you can't expect R&F to say anything to jeopardize their jobs and I doubt O&A are counting on them to do so. So their hardcore fans won't budge, either.
joefrombklyn
05-20-2007, 03:30 PM
Just curious if any of the hardcore R&F fans are taking a stand for the boys by cancelling their XM accounts.
Have they indicated that they're pulling out (and will stick with FREEFM R&F or free downloads) or are they just pleased that XM 202 will soon become "The Buddays"?
thats a dickheaded comment (shit dick)!! understand and the 2 two shows !!
joefrombklyn
05-20-2007, 03:32 PM
stop the DIVIDE AND CONQUER !but you are all entitled to yur own opinion!!
Death Metal Moe
05-20-2007, 03:55 PM
I'll tell ya from my perspective of being very active here and on Ronfez.net that most people over there are keeping their subs for now it seems. I have.
I hope it doesn't offend O&A fans, but I bought XM for Ron and Fez, period. The fact that O&A were already here was a bonus for me and got me into the show again.
But I will say this. If O&A dont come back in June, it will ruin the entire talk format. I doubt Ron and Fez will stick around, or XM will fuck their show up.
I really want to cancel to fuck XM but having Ron and Fez is important to me.
cokelogic
05-20-2007, 04:09 PM
Miss message board WBL.I miss lurking Opie.
Dr Pepper
05-20-2007, 04:30 PM
Just curious if any of the hardcore R&F fans are taking a stand for the boys by cancelling their XM accounts.
Have they indicated that they're pulling out (and will stick with FREEFM R&F or free downloads) or are they just pleased that XM 202 will soon become "The Buddays"?
I am a hardcore and I won't cancel. Truth be told, if I was a hardcore OnA listener, as I used to be, I wouldn't cancel either. I also have XM for a multitude of reasons but whats relevant is OnA were specifically told by management not to reference the situation any further and OnA nearly did the whole show on Monday about it. If you owned a company and you told an employee to stop doing something that was attracting a fair amount of negative attention and he said FUCK YOU to your face in front of all your customers, what would you do? It's not amount censorship, it's about corporate sanitizing, and that has been and will be around forever.
Frankly, I'm thankful it's JUST a suspension and I believe The Boys will be back in June.
Hoagie
05-20-2007, 04:58 PM
I am a hardcore and I won't cancel. Truth be told, if I was a hardcore OnA listener, as I used to be, I wouldn't cancel either. I also have XM for a multitude of reasons but whats relevant is OnA were specifically told by management not to reference the situation any further and OnA nearly did the whole show on Monday about it. If you owned a company and you told an employee to stop doing something that was attracting a fair amount of negative attention and he said FUCK YOU to your face in front of all your customers, what would you do? It's not amount censorship, it's about corporate sanitizing, and that has been and will be around forever.They also told them to "Go crazy". Which they did. Until a bit started hitting the news. You can't have it both ways. You can't tell them to go all out one minute and put a complete halt on it the next. It's not fair to the talent. Not to mention the fact that the entire talk wasn't pointed at XM or their situation. It was commentary on the situation the media faces today and the double standard that's being supported and promoted at any cost. If Ron and Fez fans don't want to cancel then so be it. What can you do really? I hope they enjoy it because it probably won't be long until the same axe falls on them.
Ultimus
05-20-2007, 05:04 PM
Frankly, I'm thankful it's JUST a suspension and I believe The Boys will be back in June.
That's the point. They are likely fired at this point. How many shows have come back from 30 days suspensions?
Ron & Fez will be on the chopping block next. I love their show too, but you have to be realistic. If the management would can O&A over something a homeless guy said, they could certainly do it over something ESD says.
This sort of thing makes me less than optimistic. If O&A fans can't even get R&F fans to cancel to make a point, what chance is there of us getting people who don't know O&A at all to cancel. Pffft...
jfragons
05-20-2007, 05:09 PM
I had my XM radio primarily for R&F.. But I just can't support XM after this.
This is bigger than R&F or O&A. So I canceled in protest.
abudabit
05-20-2007, 05:09 PM
Things that make you go 'hmmm': A bunch of new members who signed this month and in their first post defending the suspension.
The Dreamer
05-20-2007, 05:12 PM
Things that make you go 'hmmm': A bunch of new members who signed this month and in their first post defending the suspension.
Not that surprising. Corporations hire people to comb websites and forums all the time. Corporate Shills, hyping new products, supporting corporations, things like that.
It is pretty disturbing, tho. People with no souls running around out there...
fuck em all. They can go shit the bed and suck some more XM cock. :P
Maddog62
05-20-2007, 05:29 PM
We all need to understand that The Virus is the VOLTRON of all channels. All though I am a Opie and Anthony fan I feel the Ron and Fez show only makes the channel that much better.sort of a flashback to the WNEW days. Also, since I live in California it is nice to have a live show to interact with in my time zone. I work swing shift and generally need to catch OnA on the replay. On this principle I can not financially support the channel if the company doesn't back one or the other. I will still listen via syndication underground but I will not pay a dime. I had a broken Tao for three moths that I neglected to fix in support of this company and now I want my back scratched....... I think the ronfez.net guys should back this move for the fact that wackbag would if RnF were in the same situation.....
Death Metal Moe
05-20-2007, 05:46 PM
I don't want to start a fight, but the majority of O&A fans wouldn't cancel of Ron and Fez were kicked off.
It just wouldn't happen because a majority of you bought XM for O&A specifically.
BaLZaC~308
05-20-2007, 05:52 PM
I don't want to start a fight, but the majority of O&A fans wouldn't cancel of Ron and Fez were kicked off.
It just wouldn't happen because a majority of you bought XM for O&A specifically.
I agree as many wouldn't moe, but I think you would be surprised at how many would.
I got xm for OnA, when they were doing the whole golden ticket thing all I could fucking hope for was "Please let it be RnF!!"
Then one day they played the AFRO music and ronnie and fez came into the studio and my fucking dick got hard.
The two shows back to back is the best one-two punch in all of radio/entertainment.
Wilmington WOW
05-20-2007, 05:56 PM
thanks for breaking it down for me...I've always wondered.. :rolleyes:
lol there's my girl :icon_mrgr
Dr Pepper
05-20-2007, 05:57 PM
It won't happen to Ron and Fez because not once have them even remotely come close to being offensive to anyone or creating a riff with XM management.
The Dreamer
05-20-2007, 06:07 PM
It won't happen to Ron and Fez because my bosses at XM saidnot once have they even remotely come close to being offensive to anyone or creating a riff with them.
Went ahead and fixed that for ya. No worries, we're all a helpful bunch round here. :action-sm :action-sm :action-sm :icon_mrgr ;)
BaLZaC~308
05-20-2007, 06:10 PM
It won't happen to Ron and Fez because not once have them even remotely come close to being offensive to anyone
do you smoke crack?
It may be more subtle than OnA but ronnie has said numerous things that can be viewed as offensive.
Ronnie is a "hero" (insert music here) for not stopping a **** but for holding the woman down, or when he talked about tripping out in vietnam shooting woman and children, and ****** vietnamese woman... yea thats not offensive (to me its not, its actually fucking hysterical, but don't act like theres never crazy shit said on their show)
Dr Pepper
05-20-2007, 06:13 PM
do you smoke crack?
It may be more subtle than OnA but ronnie has said numerous things that can be viewed as offensive.
Ronnie is a "hero" (insert music here) for not stopping a **** but for holding the woman down, or when he talked about tripping out in vietnam shooting woman and children, and ****** vietnamese woman... yea thats not offensive (to me its not, its actually fucking hysterical, but don't act like theres never crazy shit said on their show)
Fair enough.
So when was the last time Ronnie was flashed over Fox News, CNN, The Drudge Report for whatever he says?
Never? Okay.
The Dreamer
05-20-2007, 06:20 PM
Fair enough.
So when was the last time Ronnie was flashed over Fox News, CNN, The Drudge Report for whatever he says?
Never? Okay.
Ya know, Dingus, I'm gunna have to say that it is because O&A are more newsworthy. Not knocking the buddys, but they are just not as well known as the bbboys.
When you go hunting, do you aim for the 12 point buck? or the squirrel?
You shilling douche...
not to be mean, but you are kinda pissing me off. You have NO IDEA what we are fighting for. Just go back to your apartment, and enjoy taking what you are given. We here choose to stand for our rights.
BaLZaC~308
05-20-2007, 06:25 PM
Fair enough.
So when was the last time Ronnie was flashed over Fox News, CNN, The Drudge Report for whatever he says?
Never? Okay.
so the media is the arbiters of what is offensive?
It wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that they've (OnA) been fired twice for "offensive" material in the past. And OnA actually seek press coverage for shit they do, good and bad.
I've been a RnF fan since NEW, I dont think I have ever seen them in a newspaper besides after sex for sam.
Dr Pepper
05-20-2007, 06:26 PM
We here choose to stand for our rights.
If you're going to stand for your rights, you should be intelligent enough to realize your rights aren't being violated, you fucking idiot.
cozzie
05-20-2007, 06:47 PM
here's the difference between the 2 shows.
Ronnie will kick you in the shin and apologize, while you bend over , He will Butt Fuck you.
O&A will just butt fuck you.
The Dreamer
05-20-2007, 06:49 PM
If you're going to stand for your rights, you should be intelligent enough to realize your rights aren't being violated, you fucking idiot.
No? So, my right to say what i like is n no danger? my right, as a consumer, to choose which program i want to lsten to was not harmed? My right to support whomever i choose to is not in peril?
Look man, you can get as mad as you want, and flame me, or anyone else to your hearts content. But be aware, that ou will get back what you put out. That is the way it should be.
But you come in here, into the heart of it, and say that we are all wrong, that it is O&As fault, because they didnt toe the company line correctly? That is what they based their CAREERS on!
Maddog62
05-20-2007, 06:53 PM
He was going back in time to **** HTG....
Death Metal Moe
05-20-2007, 06:56 PM
The suspension isn't the point here, it shouldn't have even happened.
XM should have stood up for O&A. They shouldn't have apologized for ANYTHING. They shouldn't have forced O&A to read that prepared statement and they shouldn't have had a talk with them about not bringing it up on air.
What should have happened is XM reminded anyone who was offended that O&A are on an XL channel that only like minded adults listen to.
But XM became worried the comments would cause undue stress on the merger talks, which XM is banking on.
This is all about XM putting money above it's talent. That is why we're mad.
BaLZaC~308
05-20-2007, 06:58 PM
The suspension isn't the point here, it shouldn't have even happened.
XM should have stood up for O&A. They shouldn't have apologized for ANYTHING. They shouldn't have forced O&A to read that prepared statement and they shouldn't have had a talk with them about not bringing it up on air.
What should have happened is XM reminded anyone who was offended that O&A are on an XL channel that only like minded adults listen to.
But XM became worried the comments would cause undue stress on the merger talks, which XM is banking on.
This is all about XM putting money above it's talent. That is why we're mad.
:clap: :clap: :clap:
couldnt say it better
Dr Pepper
05-20-2007, 07:04 PM
No? So, my right to say what i like is n no danger? my right, as a consumer, to choose which program i want to lsten to was not harmed? My right to support whomever i choose to is not in peril?
Your only "rights" that were violated were your consumer rights. You're right on that account. You subscribe to a service for a certain type of entertainment, so when that entertainment goes away, you cancel. In my opinion, suspending the account is the way to go because until XM sends out a press release saying OnA are permanently off XM, the firings are just speculation. If you cancel now, you're just blustering, and in a month OnA will be back and I assume XM will have your money back. So what did you really do besides waste an hour of your time to cancel and ten bucks to get your radio reactivated?
But you come in here, into the heart of it, and say that we are all wrong, that it is O&As fault, because they didnt toe the company line correctly? That is what they based their CAREERS on!
It is their fault. Did anyone tell them to go on air and bash XM management and throw it in everyone's face that XM wasn't taking them off the air for the comments? And no, XM did not, whether or not you believe the "go all the way" comment made earlier.
Yes, they have based their careers on it and they've been fired twice (?) now for it. Hopefully OnA have finally figured out you cannot fight management.
OnA don't always win in the end,
Death Metal Moe
05-20-2007, 08:17 PM
Dr Pepper, you make the board taste like dog shit.
fkornre
05-20-2007, 08:18 PM
Dr Pepper, you make the board taste like dog shit.
that he does...and its my fav soda...
JOHNNY HAIRDO
05-20-2007, 08:33 PM
The back and forth between people saying my favorite show doesn't offend as much as yours is not helpful to the cause. As much as Stern is a cocksucker I'd be hard pressed to point out shit he was doing on his show that might be viewed as offensive.
Support HTG, see how this plays out and yes I used the term hard pressed.
PatFromMoonachie
05-20-2007, 09:07 PM
It won't happen to Ron and Fez because not once have them even remotely come close to being offensive to anyone or creating a riff with XM management.
I just think NOT canceling your subs for at least a month (if it becomes a lost cause by then, then come back) is being short-sighted, there's a feeding-frenzy with the Imus firing, JV & Elvis and now O&A's suspension/firing and now's the time for the most impact to show XM that we're not gonna put up with them censoring sattelite radio. If you don't think in this new climate, someone can't make an issue out of some of the stuff Ron says, you're not listening.
I'm a huge fan of BOTH shows and i'd do the exact same thing for Ron & Fez, BTW, what do you think Ron would do?
When Ron and Fez came to 202, I had never heard of them. I was thinking "who is this dude talking to the gay guy?". Over time, I've come to enjoy the show very much, and make a point to go out for lunch just so I can listen. To be honest, Ron Bennington may be the funniest fucker on radio. He's a different kind of funny from Anthony, to be sure.
It hurt to cancel XM, because I like R&F so much, but I had to do it.
Dopie Opie
05-20-2007, 10:36 PM
As long as the media does not find out about the **** prevention prevention kit
Mindslayer
05-20-2007, 11:10 PM
When Ron and Fez came to 202, I had never heard of them. I was thinking "who is this dude talking to the gay guy?". Over time, I've come to enjoy the show very much, and make a point to go out for lunch just so I can listen. To be honest, Ron Bennington may be the funniest fucker on radio. He's a different kind of funny from Anthony, to be sure.
It hurt to cancel XM, because I like R&F so much, but I had to do it.
Same here. Like the majority here, Im a big R&F fan, too, and Ill miss listening to them, but cancelling was for the greater good.
Funkman2000
05-21-2007, 02:37 AM
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I'm a huge fan of BOTH shows and i'd do the exact same thing for Ron & Fez, BTW, what do you think Ron would do?
I always ask myself that. WWRD? What Would Ron Do?
vaglvr
05-21-2007, 02:56 AM
As long as the media does not find out about the **** prevention prevention kit
or Ron's line of the day thread. Lord only knows what they would do if they looked through the internet's equivalent of the Dark side of the moon.
29 year old Dav
05-21-2007, 04:07 AM
I just think NOT canceling your subs for at least a month (if it becomes a lost cause by then, then come back) is being short-sighted, there's a feeding-frenzy with the Imus firing, JV & Elvis and now O&A's suspension/firing and now's the time for the most impact to show XM that we're not gonna put up with them censoring sattelite radio. If you don't think in this new climate, someone can't make an issue out of some of the stuff Ron says, you're not listening.
I'm a huge fan of BOTH shows and i'd do the exact same thing for Ron & Fez, BTW, what do you think Ron would do?
Damn Pat, that is a great post.
I dont think it is out of line to talk to people who are not fans of the boys to leave XM over this. I think RnF fans should be a given. There are principailities involved here. I am running a goddamn disc man through my tape player to have something to listen to in the car. I like RnF and I would much rather be listening to them, but if we dont make our stand now we wont have them either.
This is about standing up for something bigger than any single radio show. I go so far as to say (gulp) that if it were Hoo Hoo in the same trouble I would try to convince people to leave the doggy company. Fuck Yeah I am disappoined in RF.net. I am disappointed in everyone here who hasnt cancelled.
The boys are about more than dick jokes, they spoke for me. They said the things that I wish I could say everyday. They could use a racist slur and we knew they didnt mean it with hate. They could make the jokes we have to censor at work. They are the voice we cant always use when we are talking to some obnoxius customer at work. Now the same people that shut me up are trying to shut them up. I dont care if it is the FCC or your boss or Hugh Fuckin Panero it is time we say enough.
We jump through all the silly hoops to buy your damn radio, install it, talk to Kaitlin the Automated Voice assistant only to get transfered to another continent so we can drive around for an hour until the damn thing starts working. The sound we hear is freedom though and these assholes are trying to take it away. I dont care if you prefer O&A, RnF, or the bozo fuckin trucker, stand up now or expect satelite to become as bland as terrestrial radio because your voice has been silenced yet again.
cokelogic
05-21-2007, 05:06 AM
It won't happen to Ron and Fez because not once have them even remotely come close to being offensive to anyone or creating a riff with XM management.You're new here aren't you. :action-sm
They could be thrown off un a second. Who can say what will be said that will be taken and misquoted. It doesn't even have to be Ron or Fez who says the wrong thing. A homeless guest showed us that anyone who speaks on air can get the show fired. It could be something a caller say or something Dave does.
Friday, Dave and Earl were Indian leg wrestling. There were a thousand ways that could have been misconstrune. Offend Indians, offend gays, employees fighting. If XM wants R&F gone, they can make it happen. The 'anything goes' rule is out the door. And the limit is undefined.
cokelogic
05-21-2007, 05:11 AM
I'm a huge fan of BOTH shows and i'd do the exact same thing for Ron & Fez, BTW, what do you think Ron would do?Fuck Yeah!
moochcassidy
05-21-2007, 09:30 AM
after the last few days of reading up and talking with people over there.
id say no, alot (if not most) .net people are not behind this boycott.
BaLZaC~308
05-21-2007, 09:55 AM
after the last few days of reading up and talking with people over there.
id say no, alot (if not most) .net people are not behind this boycott.
I think alot of you people are confusing ronfez.net with opieandanthony.net/ronandfezSHOW.net
RnF.net is a great website
moochcassidy
05-21-2007, 10:20 AM
I think alot of you people are confusing ronfez.net with opieandanthony.net/ronandfezSHOW.net
RnF.net is a great website
im not, ive never been to that one.
they support O&A in general, but to say 'most' members are supporting a boycott in any way other than joining the PAC website is wrong.
as far as i've seen, no mods or admins are cancelling or even pushing it officially.
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