Adam&Eve Official Statement

[Lunchbox420]

They will be making an official statement tomorrow regarding the O and A situation.

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003587607&&&&imw=Y

[fkornre]

it feels good when you read articles like this. Knowing sponsors are backing up the boyz as well as the fans. UNITY is good :)

[Dr Pepper]

They're not backing the boys, they're backing their access to your consumer dollars.

Did sponsors give a shit as to what Don Imus said for 25 years? Not until consumer boycotts were being promoted loudly and publicly.

[niklbag]

god i fuckin wish we could get all our sponsers releases in these articles

[TheCableNazi]

A thought occurred to me involving all these advertiser pull outs.

Why would any business continue advertising on XM 202? So their ads can be heard on 3 hours of new show, 5 days a week? Then 21 - 24 hours of replays per day?

They know nobody's listening, it would be stupid for ANY advertiser to continue paying for ads on 202.

And what better way to appeal to a large group of consumers than issuing a statement about "free speech" and "censorship" in support of our cause?

Aside from Nashville Coffee, who have been on our side since day one, I don't know if I can accept that these advertisers are leaving for OUR benefit, but rather because it makes no sense to stay.

Don't mean to be a party pooper, just another thing to think about before dropping to your knees and sucking these guys' cocks.

[LastDeadMouse]

A thought occurred to me involving all these advertiser pull outs.

Why would any business continue advertising on XM 202? So their ads can be heard on 3 hours of new show, 5 days a week? Then 21 - 24 hours of replays per day?

They know nobody's listening, it would be stupid for ANY advertiser to continue paying for ads on 202.

And what better way to appeal to a large group of consumers than issuing a statement about "free speech" and "censorship" in support of our cause?

Aside from Nashville Coffee, who have been on our side since day one, I don't know if I can accept that these advertisers are leaving for OUR benefit, but rather because it makes no sense to stay.

Don't mean to be a party pooper, just another thing to think about before dropping to your knees and sucking these guys' cocks.

It doesn't matter what their motivation is. All this means is that our efforts are working.

[me in canada]

wow some people do stand up!

[TheCableNazi]

It doesn't matter what their motivation is. All this means is that our efforts are working.


Ooooooookay, but the question remains, is it our efforts or just good business sense?

[EvilHomerJ666]

They're not backing the boys, they're backing their access to your consumer dollars.

Did sponsors give a shit as to what Don Imus said for 25 years? Not until consumer boycotts were being promoted loudly and publicly.


Hoo Hoo Robin I invented trolling.

[fkornre]

Someone shut this troll up already.
the best thing to do to a troll is just ignore them...they will go away...

[scottct1]

Exactly, companies are not pulling out in support of the B.. B.. B.. Boys, they are doing it because they are not getting what they have paid for.

In addition I have talked to one sponsor who says their ads on XM have not run as well as they thought they would. (i.e, they are not getting a return on their investment)

This is the perfect time for them to get out and they don't look like assholes doing it. The up side is folks like us are happy that they are pulling out and they are gaining friends like us because it looks like they are doing a good thing for us.

When in reality... they are not.

In saying this I can not say if the poor advertising is due to O&A, but if I had to guess I would say the the issues companies are having with their ads on XM has more to do with the entire package they purchased then anything to do with O&A, I would not be surprised i O&A were the highest response for the sponsors, especially when compaired with the other XM channels some of these companies advertise on.

Essentually they are cutting their losses.

[generoso]

We still to keep on the other sponcers. I don't how many times I told Harry about the Boycott' Tell them about the Boycott Harry"

[TheCableNazi]

Of course, none of the articles are mentioning this, and hopefully they won't.

[generoso]

Exactly, companies are not pulling out in support of the B.. B.. B.. Boys, they are doing it because they are not getting what they have paid for.

In addition I have talked to one sponsor who says their ads on XM have not run as well as they thought they would. (i.e, they are not getting a return on their investment)

This is the perfect time for them to get out and they don't look like assholes doing it. The up side is folks like us are happy that they are pulling out and they are gaining friends like us because it looks like they are doing a good thing for us.

When in reality... they are not.

In saying this I can not say if the poor advertising is due to O&A, but if I had to guess I would say the the issues companies are having with their ads on XM has more to do with the entire package they purchased then anything to do with O&A, I would not be surprised i O&A were the highest response for the sponsors, especially when compaired with the other XM channels some of these companies advertise on.

Essentually they are cutting their losses.
well also have to remember some sponcers Ie Harry and his fucking discount, And that stell building guy. How many people really need a steel building every week . Now Coffee and Dildo's are things we buy. we still need a heavy hitter Adaeve is nice, But we need a name here I'll give the Ziggy man a pass because thats his business.

[LastDeadMouse]

Ooooooookay, but the question remains, is it our efforts or just good business sense?

It's good business sense because of our efforts. That's how boycotts work. We've made supporting the boys a good business move.

[Lunchbox420]

A thought occurred to me involving all these advertiser pull outs.

Why would any business continue advertising on XM 202? So their ads can be heard on 3 hours of new show, 5 days a week? Then 21 - 24 hours of replays per day?

They know nobody's listening, it would be stupid for ANY advertiser to continue paying for ads on 202.

And what better way to appeal to a large group of consumers than issuing a statement about "free speech" and "censorship" in support of our cause?

Aside from Nashville Coffee, who have been on our side since day one, I don't know if I can accept that these advertisers are leaving for OUR benefit, but rather because it makes no sense to stay.

Don't mean to be a party pooper, just another thing to think about before dropping to your knees and sucking these guys' cocks.


Nice thought but....

They are tying their name to O and A in official press release. They could just cancel and not say a word and slink away. Instead they are going public with there support. Buy a dildo for your wives and support the boys. Cock rings...nothing but cock rings

[Lunchbox420]

Exactly, companies are not pulling out in support of the B.. B.. B.. Boys, they are doing it because they are not getting what they have paid for.

In addition I have talked to one sponsor who says their ads on XM have not run as well as they thought they would. (i.e, they are not getting a return on their investment)



Have ya?

really?

[styckx]

They're not backing the boys, they're backing their access to your consumer dollars.

Did sponsors give a shit as to what Don Imus said for 25 years? Not until consumer boycotts were being promoted loudly and publicly.

MAJOR DIFFERENCE SIR

When a sponsor pulls, we all start buying shit from them

I'm willing to bet FIVE DOLLARS, Nashville Coffee Company made more money from XM 202 listeners in the days after pulling their ads as when their ads were actually on the air

[VMS]

Ooooooookay, but the question remains, is it our efforts or just good business sense?

Does it matter?

Worrying about motivations is bullshit. If someone's helping, they're helping you. Unless they're planning on ass***ing you later, they're at least in the "enemy of my enemy" category.

If you're going to demand that every "friend" you have has pure motivations and is a white knight, you're going to be one lonely motherfucker.

[TheCableNazi]

It's good business sense because of our efforts. That's how boycotts work. We've made supporting the boys a good business move.


Right, but take us out of the equation, wouldn't it be smart to stop advertising on ANY channel that experienced a sudden drop in listeners?

[loveflower]

Hoo Hoo Robin I invented trolling.
:haha7: :haha7: :haha7:

Looks like I need to stock up on some toys! Thanks Adam&Eve!

[TheCableNazi]

Does it matter?

Worrying about motivations is bullshit. If someone's helping, they're helping you. Unless they're planning on ass***ing you later, they're at least in the "enemy of my enemy" category.

If you're going to demand that every "friend" you have has pure motivations and is a white knight, you're going to be one lonely motherfucker.


Hey, I'm just sayin', before we go patting ourselves on the back, keep it in perspective.

The best measuring stick for how we're making a difference would be the cancelations and PAC memberships, imo, which we SHOULD be happy about.

[LastDeadMouse]

Right, but take us out of the equation, wouldn't it be smart to stop advertising on ANY channel that experienced a sudden drop in listeners?

Yes, it would. That's how these things are supposed to work. Their motivations are inconcequential. Bottom line is them pulling ads is a victory for us. If we support them for that reason, it's possible that other sponsors see that, and they start pulling ads, too.

[Lunchbox420]

Cock Rings....nothing but Cock rings

[TheCableNazi]

Yes, it would. That's how these things are supposed to work. Their motivations are inconcequential. Bottom line is them pulling ads is a victory for us. If we support them for that reason, it's possible that other sponsors see that, and they start pulling ads, too.


True.

[LastDeadMouse]

Cock Rings....nothing but Cock rings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb-Kh1oJSGE

Mr Show rules.

[THE FEZ MAN]

good, im glad were getting thew to some one

[scottct1]

Nice thought but....

They are tying their name to O and A in official press release. They could just cancel and not say a word and slink away. Instead they are going public with there support. Buy a dildo for your wives and support the boys. Cock rings...nothing but cock rings Not that Adam and Eve is doing this (I don't know) but why not get free publicity out of pulling their ad, it would be them looking like heros.

If I pulled my ads from XM (and my ads from XM were not working for me) I would give the same reason why I was leaving. O&A Pests are a great group who will support those ho also support O&A.

Now please don't think I am picking on O&A or any of their sponsors, just telling you what it probably REALLY going on.

Hell take a look at hoo hoo, listen to his show (if you can bear it) and listen to his sponsors, then tune again in a month and see how many of those folks are still advertising on the Stern Show.

In fact besides Dial a Mattress, I can't really think of anyone else who has stayed by Stern since he has been on Sirius.

My honest opinon is that the Satellite Radio ads market is not as good as sponsors think it is, and if they can get out NOW, and lend their name to a cause then its good business for them.

[lucky]

Damn if they do and damned if they don't.

[ScottFromGA]

im trying to remember when Wackbag wasnt a Special Interests Group.....

My problem with writing all the sponsors is when the Boys come back, who are gonna be there for support? NO ONE, cause this agenda will run them all away....

i'm getting more worried about the "helping" will end up HURTING them more in the long run....

[KickToTheUterus]

lets think about how serious it is for Adam&Eve to pull out har har har

does this mean that the xm202 promo code won't work and get me a half off price on all my cock ring needs?!?!?!?

ANSWERS NOW PLEASE!!

Quick Zagman, put up an announcement saying that it doesn't matter what my cock ring cost will be because trusted sources have told you my cock will fall off next week anyway!!!!

[AliasHandler]

It makes no difference what their motivations are. Perception is everything. If ONA get suspended and 8 advertisers pull out in the following week, that sends a powerful message regardless of the reasoning behind it or if it is just common sense to pull ads off of a channel with very little listenership. It simply LOOKS bad for XM for this to happen, and we can spin the story however we want to the media and make it about this.

[TallBaby]

As far as this advertising thing goes....

are we emailing the sponsors who specifically have supported O&A in the past and telling them that we'll not do business with them if they dont pull their sponsorships? Or are we going more for the angle of informing them what has happened, why we are upset, and then politely asking them to join our cause.

Threatening sponsors (in this case I'm only saying about this for ones who run ads on 202, as I see it, we can go nuts in attacking sponsors who support other channels and XM overall) isnt what we should be doing. That makes us just as bad as the people we hate. Its an effective tactic, but its a cheap tactic. If a sponsor wants to stay with 202, thats their decision and I wont decide whether or not to do future business with them based on that alone. But simply telling them that we support our show and we highly support the sponsors of our show sends the message that they can make themselves look good by joining our cause.

[AliasHandler]

As far as this advertising thing goes....

are we emailing the sponsors who specifically have supported O&A in the past and telling them that we'll not do business with them if they dont pull their sponsorships? Or are we going more for the angle of informing them what has happened, why we are upset, and then politely asking them to join our cause.

Threatening sponsors (in this case I'm only saying about this for ones who run ads on 202, as I see it, we can go nuts in attacking sponsors who support other channels and XM overall) isnt what we should be doing. That makes us just as bad as the people we hate. Its an effective tactic, but its a cheap tactic. If a sponsor wants to stay with 202, thats their decision and I wont decide whether or not to do future business with them based on that alone. But simply telling them that we support our show and we highly support the sponsors of our show sends the message that they can make themselves look good by joining our cause.

I think that we need to let them know they will face a boycott if they do not pull their advertising. Inform them of the situation and make it politely clear to them that none of us will be doing any business with them while they support the suspension either directly or indirectly.

Yes it's a cheap tactic, but we need to use the enemies weapons against them. We are using this tactic to END censorship while other groups are using it to SUPPORT censorship. There is a clear distinction. Our motives make this tactic acceptable because we are promoting free speech. If we were promoting censorship then it would be unacceptable.

So it doesnt matter, we need to convince these advertisers to withdraw support from XM one way or another. We need to hurt XM in the pocketbook.

[TallBaby]

fair enough. Just wanted to confirm the exact tactics we should be using.

[Lunchbox420]

http://www.forbes.com/prnewswire/feeds/prnewswire/2007/05/21/prnewswire200705211631PR_NEWS_B_WES_LA_LAM101.html

PR Newswire - Press Release
Adam & Eve Pulls Radio Spots in Censorship Protest
05.21.07, 4:33 PM ET






HILLSBOROUGH, N.C., May 21 /PRNewswire/ -- Adam & Eve, the nation's number one choice for all things erotic, has pulled its advertisements from XM Radio's "Opie & Anthony Show" following the duo's 30 day suspension.

"We support free speech ... not censorship," explains Adam & Eve Director of Marketing Chad Davis. "Adam & Eve was built on First Amendment rights. We cannot, in good conscience, ignore the fact that 'Opie & Anthony' were suspended over comments that the FCC has no jurisdiction over."

Joining Adam & Eve in this stand against censorship are numerous other advertisers and listeners.

"We've received word that thousands of customers have cancelled their subscriptions to XM Radio over this," says Davis. "It's obvious that America is taking the issue of free speech seriously."

Adam & Eve will be back on the air with their normal advertising schedule (effective 6/15/07) when 'Opie & Anthony' return from their suspension. While 'Opie & Anthony' is off the air, Adam & Eve will support its listeners by continuing to offer 50% almost any item on adameve.com by using code "XM202" at check out.

Adam & Eve has built its reputation over 35 years as America's leading source for sex-positive adult entertainment. With over 10 million catalog and internet customers, Adam & Eve represents the best of the adult industry and has been featured in USA Today, TIME Magazine, U.S. News & World Report, Men's Health, Forbes, Gentleman's Quarterly and more.

For more information on Adam & Eve, please contact Adam & Eve Director of Public Relations Katy Zvolerin at katy@adameve.com or 919.644.8100 x 3121.

SOURCE Adam & Eve -0- 05/21/2007 /CONTACT: Katy Zvolerin, Director of Public Relations, Adam & Eve, +1-919-644-8100, ext. 3121, or katy@adameve.com/ /Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20061017/LATU090LOGO AP Archive: http://photoarchive.ap.org PRN Photo Desk, photodesk@prnewswire.com/ /Web site: adameve.com/ CO: Adam & Eve; XM Radio ST: North Carolina IN: ENT RAD REA ECM MLM SU: JP -- LAM101 -- 0946 05/21/2007 16:31 EDT http://www.prnewswire.com

[Lunchbox420]

Fuck yeah still half off cock rings...

[KickToTheUterus]

thank god