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tstlkevanilla
05-26-2007, 02:18 PM
Do people meet up...bump into each other.. how the fuck does it work?
And are you yourself when you go on a first date? That hasn't worked for me at all... any advice?

d0uche_n0zzle
05-26-2007, 02:22 PM
Dating is just a nicer term then fucking.

tstlkevanilla
05-26-2007, 02:26 PM
Dating is just a nicer term then fucking.
That's why I'm so confused about it. I just fuck.. if you're good, you stick around.

TheJerseyDevil
05-26-2007, 02:26 PM
Bars. It was also alot easier when me and my friends had our own place, throwing parties is the best way to meet people. Anthony has basically influenced me to stay the fuck away from marriage.

Valk
05-26-2007, 02:29 PM
You'll never find love in a bar. Theres plenty of quieffe there tho...

tstlkevanilla
05-26-2007, 02:31 PM
not looking for love. shit doesn't exist. or it does.. just not for certain people.

LiddyRules
05-26-2007, 02:41 PM
I've been wondering the same thing but with just meeting people who could possibly turn into friends. Like where do you meet friends?

Club/bar scenes seem to be exclusively for hookups. It's hard to imagine going to a happening spot on a Friday night and awkwardly courting someone (of either sex) just to be an acquaintance.

Some people suggest work, but it doesn't work when the people you work with are such dullards that overhearing their conversation makes you realize how useless all humans are. Then you realize the type of people you'd "like" are also pathetic homebodies and you don't know how to find them. And if you could, you couldn't make the first move and they wouldn't.

I live a lonely life. But I think it's a legit question.

Now as for your question, if movies have taught me anything what will need to happen is a "meet-cute." Like, at a laundromat, you'll be doing laundry, and he'll be doing laundry, then you'll bump into each other spilling clothes all over the floor. You sort the clothes laughing nervously. You share an awkward look as he picks up your underpants and quickly hands them to you. Then you get married.

FYI, just a warning, when you see him kissing his Ex, it was not his fault. She planted the kiss on him and you just happened to arrive an an awfully conspicuous time. If you get there a minute early or stay a minute later, you'll see him trying to fight her off. This will save you the time and expense of a montage.

THE FEZ MAN
05-26-2007, 02:52 PM
im married. i dont even know were i would go to meet someone, every one that ive met for the most part in the last 5 years was either thew my art, or the internets

wes mantooth
05-26-2007, 03:01 PM
Don't do it at work. Too much drama in the event of an aftermath. I used to meet girls wherever I did my personal business. I picked up cute bank tellers a few times. If it ever ended badly I'd just bank at another branch. I picked up a dental assistant once too.

When I was single I always had a few fuckbuddy chicks around. I may need them again if I don't pop the question to my girl in the near future.

abudabit
05-26-2007, 03:04 PM
I'll admit it, I've used the internet to meet women. I wound up in two different relationships because of it, both hot women. But for the most part they are either crazy, super picky, or uugh.

As far as ordinary dating, you really gotta drink on your first date or else you're going to be uncomfortable and awkward.

wes mantooth
05-26-2007, 03:11 PM
I'll admit it, I've used the internet to meet women.


Ah, I've done this too. My favorite tactic was to have them meet me at a food court in a mall or someplace else crowded. I'd tell them I'd be wearing a red hat or something and then I'd find out what they were wearing. I'd of course wear something completely different and if I spotted them and found out I was lied to I'd just leave and never talk to them again.

Rich W.
05-26-2007, 03:36 PM
TST...

You're our kind of nut, and might I add, a natural born swinger...(whether you want to admit it or not)

If you want, e-mail me and I'll let you know where some good parties are...

Love does exist...These traditional, vanilla "monogamous" marriages don't.

tstlkevanilla
05-26-2007, 04:23 PM
I've been wondering the same thing but with just meeting people who could possibly turn into friends. Like where do you meet friends?

Club/bar scenes seem to be exclusively for hookups. It's hard to imagine going to a happening spot on a Friday night and awkwardly courting someone (of either sex) just to be an acquaintance.

Some people suggest work, but it doesn't work when the people you work with are such dullards that overhearing their conversation makes you realize how useless all humans are. Then you realize the type of people you'd "like" are also pathetic homebodies and you don't know how to find them. And if you could, you couldn't make the first move and they wouldn't.

I live a lonely life. But I think it's a legit question.

Now as for your question, if movies have taught me anything what will need to happen is a "meet-cute." Like, at a laundromat, you'll be doing laundry, and he'll be doing laundry, then you'll bump into each other spilling clothes all over the floor. You sort the clothes laughing nervously. You share an awkward look as he picks up your underpants and quickly hands them to you. Then you get married.

FYI, just a warning, when you see him kissing his Ex, it was not his fault. She planted the kiss on him and you just happened to arrive an an awfully conspicuous time. If you get there a minute early or stay a minute later, you'll see him trying to fight her off. This will save you the time and expense of a montage.
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

tstlkevanilla
05-26-2007, 04:26 PM
Ah, I've done this too. My favorite tactic was to have them meet me at a food court in a mall or someplace else crowded. I'd tell them I'd be wearing a red hat or something and then I'd find out what they were wearing. I'd of course wear something completely different and if I spotted them and found out I was lied to I'd just leave and never talk to them again.
but why go through all that shit? whatever happened to just meeting someone and boom!?
fuck. I'm so done.

tstlkevanilla
05-26-2007, 04:29 PM
TST...

You're our kind of nut, and might I add, a natural born swinger...(whether you want to admit it or not)

If you want, e-mail me and I'll let you know where some good parties are...

Love does exist...These traditional, vanilla "monogamous" marriages don't.
done.

MJMANDALAY
05-26-2007, 05:03 PM
Well if your into Gurls, I am sure will stalk you here on Wackbag.

At least that's what happened to me.
:)

ode2no1
05-26-2007, 08:58 PM
not looking for love. shit doesn't exist. or it does.. just not for certain people.


Not for those that are selfish and fuck over everyone they meet... You can only be dubble sided so much...

BaLZaC~308
05-26-2007, 09:02 PM
Not for those that are selfish and fuck over everyone they meet... You can only be dubble sided so much...


FACE

cozzie
05-26-2007, 09:29 PM
but why go through all that shit? whatever happened to just meeting someone and boom!?
fuck. I'm so done.


You speak so much truth , Are you Jesus Christ with TITS?

abudabit
05-26-2007, 10:14 PM
I believe in wuv.

favourite
05-26-2007, 10:48 PM
That's why I'm so confused about it. I just fuck.. if you're good, you stick around.


haha I hear ya there :action-sm


group dates are less awkward, i think.

CaraC
05-27-2007, 12:39 AM
not looking for love. shit doesn't exist. or it does.. just not for certain people.
I cant get past this post because I dont want you to think this way! Youre a sweetheart and you WILL find love, and you will find it when you LEAST expect it.
As far as dating, I HONESTLY have met a lot of people online but if that isnt your thing, friends that know someone single are usually a pretty good deal too...

Relationships kinda fall into your lap, but only if you let them. Don't put your guard up too quick, because you DEFINITELY deserve to love and be loved!

patbattlefield
05-27-2007, 12:46 AM
I cant get past this post because I dont want you to think this way! Youre a sweetheart and you WILL find love, and you will find it when you LEAST expect it.
As far as dating, I HONESTLY have met a lot of people online but if that isnt your thing, friends that know someone single are usually a pretty good deal too...

Relationships kinda fall into your lap, but only if you let them. Don't put your guard up too quick, because you DEFINITELY deserve to love and be loved!

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

well said. there truly is someone for everyone.

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rustytrombone1
05-27-2007, 09:19 AM
get yourself a B.O.B.

tstlkevanilla
05-27-2007, 09:22 AM
get yourself a B.O.B.
the heck is a B.O.B?

rustytrombone1
05-27-2007, 09:25 AM
the heck is a B.O.B?
battery operated boyfriend:action-sm

tstlkevanilla
05-27-2007, 09:28 AM
battery operated boyfriend:action-sm
I have one that plugs in.. :action-sm

rustytrombone1
05-27-2007, 09:40 AM
I have one that plugs in.. :action-sm
one that never quits

tstlkevanilla
05-27-2007, 09:41 AM
one that never quits
and can love and please you at a moment's notice. :)

rustytrombone1
05-27-2007, 09:45 AM
and can love and please you at a moment's notice. :)

No viagra needed?

tstlkevanilla
05-27-2007, 09:51 AM
No viagra needed?
nope.. so long as I pay my electric bill..

rustytrombone1
05-27-2007, 09:53 AM
nope.. so long as I pay my electric bill..

Might I suggest a back up generator? :icon_mrgr

Cunt Smasher
05-27-2007, 10:00 AM
I personally have found love hundreds of times. After careful negotiations and a quick look for the cops it takes about 15 minutes and $47.50

Radioguy
05-27-2007, 10:00 AM
battery operated boyfriend:action-sm

Go research that some more....you'll find there's a more common meaning than "battery operated"

If tst is into that, she may not have much luck in the dating scene. :icon_mrgr

tstlkevanilla
05-27-2007, 10:04 AM
Go research that some more....you'll find there's a more common meaning than "battery operated"

If tst is into that, she may not have much luck in the dating scene. :icon_mrgr
do elaborate..

kidconnor
05-27-2007, 10:33 AM
Cara was right on this one. The way you protest love so much pretty much confirms you wanting it.

Just fucking is GREAT and applaudable on some level. You seem to think banging a guy and being good is a way to keep him around. Not really. Ya-see-timmy... sex is just PART of a relationship. Sooner or later if you SUCK as a girlfiend, for a whatever reason, a guy will only want you around when he wants to bang. Then the other part of the relationship, the stuff that seperates one girl you bang from the other, is what counts. Other stuff being, compatability, trust, respect, common intrests.. stuff like that. He will ALWAYS want to bang but might not respect you as a girl that he can "be with". To him thats all you will be.. is someone to bang. And then the way he treats you OUT of the bedroom will make him a sucky boyfriend. And what happens OUT of the bedroom will eventually effect what happens IN the bedroom... it all just turns to crap.

Simply put the double standard DOES exist. The Sex in the City role of banging alot of guys doesn't make you seem like a "woman not afraid to enjoy her sexuality" it makes you seem like a whore.

ANd no guy wants to settle down with a whore.. they want the girl that just a whore for THEM ONLY. A lady in the street and a Freak in the bed as the brothers put it..

This is no attack on you, as I don't know you at all, so its not personal.. just my opinion..

BUT.. there is someone for everyone.. sometimes it's opening yourself up to someone that finds them.. not just opening your legs.. Love does exist. Whatever it is. But if it was that easy to find, it would cheapen it. Thats why its special when you find it.. and why divorce lawyers make decent bank.

Okay that enough of being a sappy douche. Going to try some backdoor on my girl before she goes to church..:rolleyes:

I'm just sayin....

nolajersey
05-27-2007, 10:52 AM
I've been wondering the same thing but with just meeting people who could possibly turn into friends. Like where do you meet friends?

Club/bar scenes seem to be exclusively for hookups. It's hard to imagine going to a happening spot on a Friday night and awkwardly courting someone (of either sex) just to be an acquaintance.

Some people suggest work, but it doesn't work when the people you work with are such dullards that overhearing their conversation makes you realize how useless all humans are. Then you realize the type of people you'd "like" are also pathetic homebodies and you don't know how to find them. And if you could, you couldn't make the first move and they wouldn't.

I live a lonely life. But I think it's a legit question.

Now as for your question, if movies have taught me anything what will need to happen is a "meet-cute." Like, at a laundromat, you'll be doing laundry, and he'll be doing laundry, then you'll bump into each other spilling clothes all over the floor. You sort the clothes laughing nervously. You share an awkward look as he picks up your underpants and quickly hands them to you. Then you get married.

FYI, just a warning, when you see him kissing his Ex, it was not his fault. She planted the kiss on him and you just happened to arrive an an awfully conspicuous time. If you get there a minute early or stay a minute later, you'll see him trying to fight her off. This will save you the time and expense of a montage.

This post is another example of why Liddy is one of my favorite posters.


Liddy this may not be something your in to but have you ever thought of taking a class to meet friends? Something that you are interested in like art, cooking, photography, etc. They pretty much have a class for everything now. They usually do not take up much time and you would be meeting people that have the same interests as you. They usually are not too expensive either. I found that it was so much easier to meet people when I was in school.

tstlkevanilla
05-27-2007, 10:55 AM
Cara was right on this one. The way you protest love so much pretty much confirms you wanting it.

Just fucking is GREAT and applaudable on some level. You seem to think banging a guy and being good is a way to keep him around. Not really. Ya-see-timmy... sex is just PART of a relationship. Sooner or later if you SUCK as a girlfiend, for a whatever reason, a guy will only want you around when he wants to bang. Then the other part of the relationship, the stuff that seperates one girl you bang from the other, is what counts. Other stuff being, compatability, trust, respect, common intrests.. stuff like that. He will ALWAYS want to bang but might not respect you as a girl that he can "be with". To him thats all you will be.. is someone to bang. And then the way he treats you OUT of the bedroom will make him a sucky boyfriend. And what happens OUT of the bedroom will eventually effect what happens IN the bedroom... it all just turns to crap.

Simply put the double standard DOES exist. The Sex in the City role of banging alot of guys doesn't make you seem like a "woman not afraid to enjoy her sexuality" it makes you seem like a whore.

ANd no guy wants to settle down with a whore.. they want the girl that just a whore for THEM ONLY. A lady in the street and a Freak in the bed as the brothers put it..

This is no attack on you, as I don't know you at all, so its not personal.. just my opinion..

BUT.. there is someone for everyone.. sometimes it's opening yourself up to someone that finds them.. not just opening your legs.. Love does exist. Whatever it is. But if it was that easy to find, it would cheapen it. Thats why its special when you find it.. and why divorce lawyers make decent bank.

Okay that enough of being a sappy douche. Going to try some backdoor on my girl before she goes to church..:rolleyes:

I'm just sayin....
To bunk this.. the man that I'm currently in love with.. was my best friend for months before we even took it to the next level.
In the bedroom, he's the only one that I'm comfortable being a complete whore with. I'm very open sexually when talking about it.. but I'm actually very shy in bed.

Radioguy
05-27-2007, 11:01 AM
http://sexuality.about.com/od/sexinformation/a/bob.htm

tstlkevanilla
05-27-2007, 11:02 AM
http://sexuality.about.com/od/sexinformation/a/bob.htm
jesus

kidconnor
05-27-2007, 11:08 AM
That's why I'm so confused about it. I just fuck.. if you're good, you stick around.

sorry got thrown of track by this..

But seriously, heartache sucks. Sometimes there is no way to figure out why or where things went wrong. As my religious cousin put it. Its like a pair of oxen pulling a sled. If both are not pulling in the same direction or speed, then that sled is going to go off track and crooked. I kinda tuned him out after that but I got the point..



What was your question again?

JoeyDVDZ
05-27-2007, 11:10 AM
Not to change the subject, but wasn't this thread 4 pages long last night?

tstlkevanilla
05-27-2007, 11:25 AM
sorry got thrown of track by this..

But seriously, heartache sucks. Sometimes there is no way to figure out why or where things went wrong. As my religious cousin put it. Its like a pair of oxen pulling a sled. If both are not pulling in the same direction or speed, then that sled is going to go off track and crooked. I kinda tuned him out after that but I got the point..



What was your question again?
ok.. that cracked me the fuck up..
:haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7:
no more wake and bake for me.. :icon_conf

BaLZaC~308
05-27-2007, 11:35 AM
Not to change the subject, but wasn't this thread 4 pages long last night?


please see these threads for your answers

http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=68734



http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=68733

tstlkevanilla
05-27-2007, 11:38 AM
please see these threads for your answers

http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=68734



http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=68733
whore :action-sm

commish13
05-27-2007, 12:19 PM
I suck at the whole women thing. In high school, I had 2 chicks that I had more than a great chance with. The first I could never take past massive flirting because I don't know how to ask a chick out.

Plus I spent most of my young life learning from my dad and my brothers that I'm a fat ugly dope -- the thing is at that time I never realized it was just them being them, dopes themselves, and just kidding around with me. At this point I love it and my father and 2 brothers and I all make fun of each other constantly, but when I was younger I took a lot of those kidding insults to heart and they've stuck with me, even though I now know their nature, and it has led to me being a very anxious, nervous person afraid to go for a lot of things because somewhere inside I don't think I'm good enough even though on the surface and in the front of my brain I know I am.

But yeah, that's why I could never ask her out. I'm fine at reading signs and everything... that's never been a problem. I know that because I've asked after I knew it was too late and I was safe, i.e. when she already had a serious boyfriend. And of course, as I expected, had I taken any action between 7th and 10th grade, she'd have been with me. And she originally came to me. She's the one who originally initiated conversation, she even actually asked me out on a date once... specifically me with her and her best friend back in 8th grade, and I spent the entire end of the week trying to get one of my friends to come along because I was a moron. I eventually got my brother to come with me, and the night was a complete bomb. This girl, who really liked me, and her friend, who also seemed quite fond for a short period of time, wanted to go out together with just me, and I couldn't handle it. I got multiple chances with the one girl for the next couple years, too, and never did anything.

Then there was the chick I met at the end of 10th grade that I worked with. She was quite awesome. Very hot, great everything, she was cool, down to earth, ridiculously easy to talk to, and to top it all off, was a wrestling fan like myself. And even though it was work, it was a job that I very often blew off even though I had already made sure to schedule myself to work very few hours, and could have left without looking back if we had a problem. I ended up adding more shifts and doing everything I could to hang out with her in the bakery (in a grocery store - she worked there, I eventually ended up weaseling my way into working back there as well).

That was a situation that I could really make how I am known to her -- I'm a really weird, odd dude, and anybody I've met and become friends with after my original group of friends that I had known since I was 5 has said that I make terrible first impressions but eventually people start to 'get' me and I become very likable. Some have even said so much as that for the first few weeks or more that they knew me, they really didn't like me and found me abrasive, but once they learned how I was and I started to get to know them, it all made sense and now they love me.

And that's what happened here. By virtue of getting to spend so much time with this chick behind the bakery counter and in the back area, that's exactly what became of us, and we ended up being good friends -- but good WORK friends, because I didn't know how to get it past that. It got to the point where, much like the other girl, except now there was lots of heavy flirting that included a good amount of sexual touching (yeah, real sanitary for working in a bakery). Just a lot of innuendo and grabbing and groping on the part of both of us -- mind you, that part came about 2 years into me knowing her and me watching her with another boyfriend for about a year, which, of course, ate at me like crazy.

So all of the flirtatious and quite inappropriate-for-work stuff went on for a good 3 months or so, and one day when we were working and kinda doing all of that, she came out and asked me -- "Is this how you treat girls you really like?" In a way that was basically saying "I'm enjoying this and I like you, but do you actually like me or are you just feeling me up and talking the way you do to me because you can?" And just as I was about to answer, there was a rush and we had to deal with a bunch of customers. And then she got called away by a manager and then she had to leave. And then our work schedules kind of fell apart from each others' and then I had to go off to college.

And I never got her number, because I'm an idiot. It was basically an exact moment that only guys in movies are presented with. It's a girl who very much likes me and wants to take a step past friendship straight out asking me if I actually like her too, because I had been spending so much time acting like I did without actually doing anything about it. But then I didn't get the opportunity to answer. In a movie world, as mister Liddy might explain, I'd have ended up finding a way to talk to her where I would be able to bring that up and continue the conversation, but since it's real life and it's stupid me, that was one of the last two times I ever saw her, and it's about a month and a half short of 3 years since then.

There was a chick that liked me a couple semesters ago, too, and since I don't like the party scene and don't do any of that stuff, and of course now all of you knowing my past track record, I'm bad at all of this. We were in a class together, and as luck would have it, it was an acting class and I happen to be a very charismatic guy. That oddness and weirdness that I have that often rubs people the wrong way upon first meeting me in the real world plays thoroughly to my advantage in a goofy acting class filled mostly with the stiffest, least talented males trying to act that you could ever find. This girl started to admire me for my odd wit and stupid charm that I got to show, and when time came, a few times, to choose partners for scenes, she always tried to pick me, but I had found other people every time but the last. We did that, though, and it was our final day of the class, and after that I basically ignored her for all intents and purposes. I say hi to her and wave when I happen upon her on campus, but since I guess I acted so cold around her -- because, ya know, even though I can tell when I'm liked I'm afraid to actually go with it -- she felt that I didn't like her, and now she acts like I physically hurt her whenever I see her.

Those are the three major ones. There were a couple others that weren't sure things and there have been a few sure things but they were girls I was more or less disgusted by, but them's the big ones. And I failed miserably each time.

-----

On a lighter note, I've had no trouble making friends, although all of that has happened through a middle man. I made my first friends in college thanks to a girl who I was in a speech writing/performing class with in freshman year who thought I would be a perfect fit for the TV and Radio clubs. She one day brought me up to the Radio station to meet some of the people, and I ended up meeting and hitting it off with the dude who would become my best friend for the next year and a half until he graduated and moved away and odd things came about. But through that I met the 5 or 6 people that I do consider real friends, and have made a couple other through associations with them and due to sharing interests.

I met one dude who I was a good acquaintance with, but not much else. Turns out his best friend is a huge wrestling fan, and really enjoys independent wrestling. Hey, so do I! The dude is now my best friend here at school. Oddly enough, his name is Jose Lopez. The original first friend I mentioned a little above became such good friends with me because we met and immediately started talking about --- independent wrestling. His name? Joe Lopez.

Yeah, I'm really long winded. Especially when it comes to talking about myself and all of the things than haunt me.

wes mantooth
05-27-2007, 01:13 PM
I ended up adding more shifts and doing everything I could to hang out with her in the bakery


So it was your job to make the doughnut holes?

commish13
05-27-2007, 10:10 PM
Tee hee

Glenn Dandy
05-27-2007, 10:46 PM
Myspace.

Cunt Smasher
05-27-2007, 10:59 PM
I suck at the whole women thing. In high school, I had 2 chicks that I had more than a great chance with. The first I could never take past massive flirting because I don't know how to ask a chick out.

Plus I spent most of my young life learning from my dad and my brothers that I'm a fat ugly dope -- the thing is at that time I never realized it was just them being them, dopes themselves, and just kidding around with me. At this point I love it and my father and 2 brothers and I all make fun of each other constantly, but when I was younger I took a lot of those kidding insults to heart and they've stuck with me, even though I now know their nature, and it has led to me being a very anxious, nervous person afraid to go for a lot of things because somewhere inside I don't think I'm good enough even though on the surface and in the front of my brain I know I am.

But yeah, that's why I could never ask her out. I'm fine at reading signs and everything... that's never been a problem. I know that because I've asked after I knew it was too late and I was safe, i.e. when she already had a serious boyfriend. And of course, as I expected, had I taken any action between 7th and 10th grade, she'd have been with me. And she originally came to me. She's the one who originally initiated conversation, she even actually asked me out on a date once... specifically me with her and her best friend back in 8th grade, and I spent the entire end of the week trying to get one of my friends to come along because I was a moron. I eventually got my brother to come with me, and the night was a complete bomb. This girl, who really liked me, and her friend, who also seemed quite fond for a short period of time, wanted to go out together with just me, and I couldn't handle it. I got multiple chances with the one girl for the next couple years, too, and never did anything.

Then there was the chick I met at the end of 10th grade that I worked with. She was quite awesome. Very hot, great everything, she was cool, down to earth, ridiculously easy to talk to, and to top it all off, was a wrestling fan like myself. And even though it was work, it was a job that I very often blew off even though I had already made sure to schedule myself to work very few hours, and could have left without looking back if we had a problem. I ended up adding more shifts and doing everything I could to hang out with her in the bakery (in a grocery store - she worked there, I eventually ended up weaseling my way into working back there as well).

That was a situation that I could really make how I am known to her -- I'm a really weird, odd dude, and anybody I've met and become friends with after my original group of friends that I had known since I was 5 has said that I make terrible first impressions but eventually people start to 'get' me and I become very likable. Some have even said so much as that for the first few weeks or more that they knew me, they really didn't like me and found me abrasive, but once they learned how I was and I started to get to know them, it all made sense and now they love me.

And that's what happened here. By virtue of getting to spend so much time with this chick behind the bakery counter and in the back area, that's exactly what became of us, and we ended up being good friends -- but good WORK friends, because I didn't know how to get it past that. It got to the point where, much like the other girl, except now there was lots of heavy flirting that included a good amount of sexual touching (yeah, real sanitary for working in a bakery). Just a lot of innuendo and grabbing and groping on the part of both of us -- mind you, that part came about 2 years into me knowing her and me watching her with another boyfriend for about a year, which, of course, ate at me like crazy.

So all of the flirtatious and quite inappropriate-for-work stuff went on for a good 3 months or so, and one day when we were working and kinda doing all of that, she came out and asked me -- "Is this how you treat girls you really like?" In a way that was basically saying "I'm enjoying this and I like you, but do you actually like me or are you just feeling me up and talking the way you do to me because you can?" And just as I was about to answer, there was a rush and we had to deal with a bunch of customers. And then she got called away by a manager and then she had to leave. And then our work schedules kind of fell apart from each others' and then I had to go off to college.

And I never got her number, because I'm an idiot. It was basically an exact moment that only guys in movies are presented with. It's a girl who very much likes me and wants to take a step past friendship straight out asking me if I actually like her too, because I had been spending so much time acting like I did without actually doing anything about it. But then I didn't get the opportunity to answer. In a movie world, as mister Liddy might explain, I'd have ended up finding a way to talk to her where I would be able to bring that up and continue the conversation, but since it's real life and it's stupid me, that was one of the last two times I ever saw her, and it's about a month and a half short of 3 years since then.

There was a chick that liked me a couple semesters ago, too, and since I don't like the party scene and don't do any of that stuff, and of course now all of you knowing my past track record, I'm bad at all of this. We were in a class together, and as luck would have it, it was an acting class and I happen to be a very charismatic guy. That oddness and weirdness that I have that often rubs people the wrong way upon first meeting me in the real world plays thoroughly to my advantage in a goofy acting class filled mostly with the stiffest, least talented males trying to act that you could ever find. This girl started to admire me for my odd wit and stupid charm that I got to show, and when time came, a few times, to choose partners for scenes, she always tried to pick me, but I had found other people every time but the last. We did that, though, and it was our final day of the class, and after that I basically ignored her for all intents and purposes. I say hi to her and wave when I happen upon her on campus, but since I guess I acted so cold around her -- because, ya know, even though I can tell when I'm liked I'm afraid to actually go with it -- she felt that I didn't like her, and now she acts like I physically hurt her whenever I see her.

Those are the three major ones. There were a couple others that weren't sure things and there have been a few sure things but they were girls I was more or less disgusted by, but them's the big ones. And I failed miserably each time.

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On a lighter note, I've had no trouble making friends, although all of that has happened through a middle man. I made my first friends in college thanks to a girl who I was in a speech writing/performing class with in freshman year who thought I would be a perfect fit for the TV and Radio clubs. She one day brought me up to the Radio station to meet some of the people, and I ended up meeting and hitting it off with the dude who would become my best friend for the next year and a half until he graduated and moved away and odd things came about. But through that I met the 5 or 6 people that I do consider real friends, and have made a couple other through associations with them and due to sharing interests.

I met one dude who I was a good acquaintance with, but not much else. Turns out his best friend is a huge wrestling fan, and really enjoys independent wrestling. Hey, so do I! The dude is now my best friend here at school. Oddly enough, his name is Jose Lopez. The original first friend I mentioned a little above became such good friends with me because we met and immediately started talking about --- independent wrestling. His name? Joe Lopez.

Yeah, I'm really long winded. Especially when it comes to talking about myself and all of the things than haunt me.

Thanks for dredging up a bunch of horrific memories of my own.Lots of missed opportunities because I was a fucking awkward self-conscious dork.And a coward.It was bad enough that I was once with a girl I really liked on a kinda date/coffee thing,and she kissed me.I said "what did you do that for?" she responded " I knew you weren't gonna do it!". Fucking sad. Got over most of that after I got married and alot older.Too late.:icon_sad:

DonTheTrucker
05-27-2007, 11:02 PM
Saying that love doesn't exist doesn't hold water for me. I used to be like that too, but I can tell you it does.

It doesn't always work out the way we want it to in real life but that doesn't make the love any less real.

Rob
05-27-2007, 11:21 PM
dating? i forgot how...

rustytrombone1
05-28-2007, 10:28 AM
try bisexuality...twice the opportunity...and share the stories

tstlkevanilla
05-28-2007, 10:35 AM
try bisexuality...twice the opportunity...and share the stories
have you even looked at myspace page..

FAngel
05-29-2007, 01:50 AM
Looks like I finally have a chance to get all this out for good reason.

I hate "dating." It's time and money-consuming, frustrating, awkward and a million other things that remind you all too often that you're human on the inside. If you abide by logic and a rational mind, it's best avoided all together. And for some reason, I kept doing it.

I have not been around for nearly as long as some of the people on this board, and I will admit right away that my opinion does not come from as much wisdom and knowledge as some of the older members here. But I do have experience. I have pursued a female partner for different reasons - some of them I was genuinely interested in for romance, and others I simply wanted to fuck and promptly shut the door in their face, not even caring if it busted their nose in the process. I've manipulated and lied to women before because it suited me in whatever situation it was, and my feelings came first. On the other hand, I've made sacrifices in the past for women I was interested in and got nothing in return except hurt feelings and learned lessons.

However, there seems to be this inherent optimist in me that will not allow me to give up. I've endured rejection after rejection after rejection, I've had missed opportunities, I've been lied to myself and I will never say that I didn't deserve some of this. But I swore to myself after my first ex-girlfriend broke up with me that I would NEVER settle for someone who was less than everything I wanted in another women. She had to be someone truly special, or else I could not be bothered.

About a month ago, my search ended, and I met a girl who I can say, unequivocally, is everything I have ever looked for in a woman. Common interests, sense of humor (she was openly cackling when I played the Heather Mills miscarriage bit from O&A), video game player, complete wiseass, and calls me out on my shit when she sees it.

And here's the thing: she's exactly the same as me with the not-settling bit, and told me that the reason she chose me instead of anybody else after more than two and a half years was because---wait for it--- I don't act like a smitten douchebag. I have stronger feelings for her than anybody I've met, but I don't voice them every five minutes like some emo cunt.

I know how lucky I am, because there are people who have been on this earth for twice as long as me who have yet to find happiness like this. But you can't give up. It's cliche and hack and overplayed, but it's going to happen when you don't expect it. I met this girl through friends who are not even close to having the same personality as her. How the hell they first interacted, I don't have a clue, but that's beside the point.

Don't give up, is what I mean to say in all this.

batgoat
05-29-2007, 02:11 AM
About a month and a half ago I gave up. It had been six months since I had dated. It seems to me once you stop caring, the stink cologne of desperation leaves.

I met my current girlfriend at a bowling alley. Long stupid story, alcohol was involved. On my part, she was sober.

Tst, it will happen for you. Just don't worry about it.:icon_wink

DrumCorpsAlum
05-29-2007, 12:13 PM
I do not date. Fuck it, I don't play those games. I went on one bad, horribly awkward date in college and I said never again.

d0uche_n0zzle
05-29-2007, 12:19 PM
I do not date. Fuck it, I don't play those games. I went on one bad, horribly awkward date in college and I said never again.

I'm counting the days till Chris Hanson invites you in for a li'l chat. :action-sm

DrumCorpsAlum
05-29-2007, 12:22 PM
I'm counting the days till Chris Hanson invites you in for a li'l chat. :action-sm

That can be our little secret.

Razor Roman
05-29-2007, 02:00 PM
I just keep meeting girls who already have boyfriends.........

kloraferm
05-29-2007, 02:05 PM
I'm so done with love, dating, all that bullshit. I'm officially retired. Fuck it all.

HummerTuesdays
05-29-2007, 04:04 PM
I just keep meeting girls who already have boyfriends.........

Odd. I keep getting hit on by guys that are married or have girl friends.

Voss's Tumor
05-29-2007, 04:33 PM
dating? i forgot how...

That's my biggest problem right there. I was married for 8 years and it's like all the rules changed.

I didn't know that "dating" was a new relationship classification. I'm used to the old Girlfriend/Engaged/Married system, I didn't know that the new cool thing to do was for the chick to declare "They don't want to put a label on it so we should just date". I mean, I've been with this girl for like a month, sleep together, all that shit, and she still says we're "dating", and shy's away when someone refers to her as my girlfriend.

I mean, I don't really care. She's a great girl, we have a great time together, and the sex is great, I just was unaware of this new trend especially coming from the chick's mouth.

DonTheTrucker
05-29-2007, 04:55 PM
Odd. I keep getting hit on by guys that are married or have girl friends.

The ones that are forward enough to hit on women in a public setting usually have succeeded at it before they hit on you, so they tend to have a woman already. The alpha male is rarely alone.

I went out to a bar for a bit Saturday night and watching this ugly ass old biker dude attempt to buy a drink for ever single woman in the bar. I think he ended up leaving with one of them. Chances are he has a skank at home too.

HummerTuesdays
05-30-2007, 10:34 AM
That's my biggest problem right there. I was married for 8 years and it's like all the rules changed.

I didn't know that "dating" was a new relationship classification. I'm used to the old Girlfriend/Engaged/Married system, I didn't know that the new cool thing to do was for the chick to declare "They don't want to put a label on it so we should just date". I mean, I've been with this girl for like a month, sleep together, all that shit, and she still says we're "dating", and shy's away when someone refers to her as my girlfriend.

Are you exclusive? I thought "dating" meant that things were open to also "date" other people. Whether that includes sex is up to the people involved.

The ones that are forward enough to hit on women in a public setting usually have succeeded at it before they hit on you, so they tend to have a woman already. The alpha male is rarely alone.

I see where you might think that, and yes, I guess some are. Maybe the others were at one time but the wife/gf drove it out of them.

Rich W.
05-30-2007, 01:38 PM
Hey Kids...

I know this will come across as self serving, but I am inviting anyone (especially those of you in fucked up relationships) to my gig on Monday evening... http://www.sexyspirits.com/schedule.php?action=disp&id=324 ...here is the info page. Singles *and* couples are welcome.

I don't try to convince anyone to become swingers... I realize that it's not for everyone...but even "vanilla" couples usually come away thinking it was a fun listen. If you're inclined to agree that Dr. Phil is a douche, you would probably dig it.

generoso
05-30-2007, 06:47 PM
I am king of the Craigslist personals, And the not hooker section but the Women looking for men. Found some nice one and crazy ones. I love to date and if it doesn't go well I throw in my Norton perv switch. for the totally uncomphy moment for her.

tstlkevanilla
05-30-2007, 07:00 PM
I'm so done with love, dating, all that bullshit. I'm officially retired. Fuck it all.
x2

tstlkevanilla
05-30-2007, 07:02 PM
Hey Kids...

I know this will come across as self serving, but I am inviting anyone (especially those of you in fucked up relationships) to my gig on Monday evening... http://www.sexyspirits.com/schedule.php?action=disp&id=324 ...here is the info page. Singles *and* couples are welcome.

I don't try to convince anyone to become swingers... I realize that it's not for everyone...but even "vanilla" couples usually come away thinking it was a fun listen. If you're inclined to agree that Dr. Phil is a douche, you would probably dig it.
grrr.. why does it have to be on a Monday night?

Angelfuck
05-30-2007, 08:40 PM
I'm so done with love, dating, all that bullshit. I'm officially retired. Fuck it all.

you're way too young and cool to think like that
where have you been anyway?

HockeyHelmet
05-30-2007, 08:48 PM
I just keep meeting girls who already have boyfriends.........

yeaaaa...that could be a problem...though the tat should help turn it around..chicks dig a tat

Simby19
06-05-2007, 10:37 PM
The last guy I dated I met at a bar. It's not hard to meet people in that setting, but they are rarely of any quality. I don't have a normal 9-5 either so I'm running out of ideas rapidly.

tstlkevanilla
06-06-2007, 06:23 AM
The last guy I dated I met at a bar. It's not hard to meet people in that setting, but they are rarely of any quality. I don't have a normal 9-5 either so I'm running out of ideas rapidly.
Take my word for it.. even if you did have a 9-5, STAY AWAY FROM CO-WORKERS!!!

Frankie_Ballz
06-06-2007, 06:46 AM
I concur. I just want a chick that is cool and that I can hang out w/ after work smoke some weed, and bang 3 or 4 nights a week.

tstlkevanilla
06-06-2007, 06:47 AM
I concur. I just want a chick that I can hang out w/ after work smoke some weed, and bang 3 or 4 nights a week.
ya know.. is that too much to ask for? I would also be happy with a chick like that. :)

DrumCorpsAlum
06-06-2007, 09:42 AM
Okay. I realized just how socially awkward I am. I play in a fucking rock band for Christ sakes, and couldn't manage to pick up a chick in a crowded bar, with a fucking guitar. The hell man.

Chino Kapone
06-06-2007, 12:58 PM
Dating is like a sales pitch. You are the product and you have to pitch it to as many prospective buyers to meet you quota. In sales you have to have a strategy, and even if you hear "no" you are that much closer to a "yes". Here is the strategy for trying to pickup a woman, apply it how you like, but it does work. Its the same strategy i use for selling.

step 1: the greet, talk to them like you know em. Introduce yourself, find out their name, make plenty of eye contact (not the serial killer kind) enough that if you walk away you know their eye color.

step 2: dig 1, find out why they are at the bar, club, grocery store, chucky cheese etc. etc. etc. wheater its a girls night out, cheap drinks, or their 13th birthday. whatever it is.

step 3: Narrowing questions, this is a very important step. ASK ONLY OPEN ENDED QUESTIONS. questions that cannot be answered with a yes or a no. "Are you having a good time?" is a horrible insecure question that you want to avoid. "Can i buy you a drink?" is a bad one, "what are you drinking?" is much better, and more confident. you dont ask her if she wants one more you just buy it. you just slightly rearange the words but it has to keep her talking. You want to keep the conversation flowing and a yes/no question can stop you in your tracks. find out about them and who they are, you want to remember as much as possible. And do your best to make her laugh. avoid all racist jokes and jokes with the word "cunt" in em.

step 4: close the deal, at this point if you have been conversating with the chick for a while you should feel confident enough to get her number or take her home or whatever. do it, ya cant puss out at this point, she knows why your there becasue she is there for the same reason. even if your ugly this process will work for you.

follow these simple steps and you should be alright.

DanaReevesLungs
06-06-2007, 04:54 PM
Not for those that are selfish and fuck over everyone they meet... You can only be dubble sided so much...


Cornflakes - milk + piss :)

ChewDown
06-07-2007, 01:35 PM
when you figure it out let me know, not looking forward to dating again......

Fr. Dougal
06-07-2007, 04:49 PM
even if your ugly this process will work for you.

:haha7:

Everyone says that. And it's complete bullshit.

DC Chick
06-07-2007, 05:00 PM
Dating can be a pain in the ass. You're a girl, so you don't need to date in order to get some. You don't need someone to date, just have fun and be done.

kidohio
10-13-2007, 05:59 AM
is chemistry.com a good site?