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demonseed
09-20-2007, 09:49 AM
If anyone here is watching the CNN coverage in Jena, LA. There is that Jena 6 civil rights march that is going on.. Holy shit, there are about 40,000 people piling into this little town. And fuckin Sharpton is leading the march. If they sentence one of the guys that are supposed to be sentenced today, this town is fucking done.
OfficerCornjob
09-20-2007, 09:51 AM
Someone should just litter job applications from a helicopter, that would clear it out fast. Ayukyuk
seeinred
09-20-2007, 10:43 AM
This is one of the most ridiculous causes for a march I've ever heard. I just hope the residents of the town were smart enough to get out before they hand their ruling down tonight, because no matter what it is, there's bound to be at least a little bit of trouble.
Treat_Yourself
09-20-2007, 10:47 AM
In related news Jesse Jackson has promoted Barak Obama to the status of white man over his silence on the Jenna incident.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297332,00.html
abudabit
09-20-2007, 10:50 AM
Gee, you'd almost think the 6 didn't viciously assault a student. Shouldn't white people be marching?
Treat_Yourself
09-20-2007, 10:51 AM
Gee, you'd almost think the 6 didn't viciously assault a student. Shouldn't white people be marching?
If straight white folks march it's racist. Only black folks, hispanics and gays can march.
caniseeyourtaint
09-20-2007, 10:52 AM
Leave it to Sharpton to equate hanging nooses in a tree as a joke and 6 people smashing a guys head over and over. Theres no law against hanging a rope in a tree. Last time I checked though, its not ok for 6 savages to beat someone to a bloody pulp. When is someone going to kill this guy?
BullsLawDan
09-20-2007, 10:58 AM
"no wonder they drag them behind trucks"
Waddle Doodle!!!!!!!
seeinred
09-20-2007, 11:08 AM
Am I the only one sort of hoping for a riot?
Gee, you'd almost think the 6 didn't viciously assault a student. Shouldn't white people be marching?
You only need those kind of numbers for support when you're wrong I think.
d0uche_n0zzle
09-20-2007, 11:11 AM
Ever racial conflict needs a starting point.
Remember, don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes.
fuckwit
09-20-2007, 11:17 AM
is this equal justice?
BullsLawDan
09-20-2007, 11:41 AM
is this equal justice?
Of course not. "Equal Justice" would be hanging the white kids who put up the nooses by their own ropes, followed by killing anyone (white) who's ever had a bad thought about black people. Then, giving this 6 fine young black lads a medal for their devotion to the cause.
My sources for this interpretation of the concept of equal justice comes from the Rev. Al Sharpton Law Library.
fuckwit
09-20-2007, 11:49 AM
The CUNT on CNN (Kyra Phillips) just said "and people in this town dont want others to think that they are just backwards redneck hicks" and the savages behind her giggled.
Of course not. "Equal Justice" would be hanging the white kids who put up the nooses by their own ropes, followed by killing anyone (white) who's ever had a bad thought about black people. Then, giving this 6 fine young black lads a medal for their devotion to the cause.
My sources for this interpretation of the concept of equal justice comes from the Rev. Al Sharpton Law Library.
Dealing with the black "activists" in this country and listening to this fucking garbage is like trying to negotiate with al qaeda. This is what they fucking want. They wont be satisfied with any situation until they have all the money(reparations LOL) and all of us dead. And them held up as heros.
And fucking CNN and every other piece of shit news organization in this country does everything they can to appease the blacks.
Fr. Dougal
09-20-2007, 12:47 PM
All this double standard for the last few decades is enough. Consider that your fucking 40 acres and a mule.
Now, it's time we all be equal. What's a crime for us, is a crime for you. If you don't like it... leave. And if it the double standard continues... then you're right - the only solution is a race war.
HummerTuesdays
09-20-2007, 01:07 PM
Fat Nick is in jail. By that logic, these 6 should also be in jail.
demonseed
09-20-2007, 01:30 PM
I am watching some of the streaming coverage on cnn.com, and it just looks awful. There are tons of people just walking and milling around and yelling "free 'insert name here'". It looks like 10,000 people in black t-shirts, b ut most of them are waiting in line for the port o pottiesl.
demonseed
09-20-2007, 01:33 PM
Now the mayor of chocolate city himself, Ray Nagin, is making an apperance, and people are running up to him and hugging him..
OfficerCornjob
09-20-2007, 01:36 PM
The local White Castle is making a fortune today.
TheDrip
09-20-2007, 01:52 PM
Logic of the protesters:
Nooses in trees earned suspensions from school, which is nowhere near good enough, because even though it's not illegal should also carry some sort of jail time.
6 kids kicking the shit out of another kid = cries for no repercussions, and poster children for civil rights.
Makes perfect sense, right?
As the DA said, there's no law on the books that makes a noose in a tree illegal. There are laws about assault though. It's not about race, it's about lawbreaking.
(unfortunately, that's to difficult for the Sharptons of the world to understand)
d0uche_n0zzle
09-20-2007, 01:58 PM
As the DA said, there's no law on the books that makes a noose in a tree illegal. There are laws about assault though. It's not about race, it's about lawbreaking.
(unfortunately, that's to difficult for the Sharptons of the world to understand)
Fat Al doesn't believe black people commit "crimes." All because their great great great great great grand papa was sold into slavery by those evil Northern Africans to whitey, thus then, all whites must pay for the inhumanity inflicted upon those poor poor misguided dumb asses who allowed themselves to be caught in the first place.
abudabit
09-20-2007, 02:08 PM
Surprise surprise, now Al is trying to get Congress to investigate the DA. What the fuck did the DA even do? I guess he is trying to intimidate people out of prosecuting any crimes commited by blacks.
tar_baby
09-20-2007, 02:28 PM
nothing good has ever come from increasing the black population of a town
Cromwell
09-20-2007, 02:58 PM
The local White Castle is making a fortune today.
In a related story, a petition has been put forth by the negroid "leaders" to change the name of this fine establishment to "Black Shack"
KingTheoden84
09-20-2007, 03:08 PM
This latest cause celebre is more evidence that retardation is far more prevalent than just in Special Olympics gymnasiums.
Literally, you have a gang of people (who in this case happen to be black) cowardly beat down on a lone person (who happens to be white). And every hippy and unemployed foo' is acting as if it is some grave injustice that the assailants (in this case a gang of blacks) were convicted of assault and battery.
Some claim there there were 'white vs. black' incidents prior to the beating and after the noose prank, yet they can never actually name them. What happened, the cafeteria ran out of wall-de-mellon?
These same protesters had nothing to say when a Hispanic man was beaten and killed at the Juneteemf day parade in Austin. Nor did they comment on the horrific murders of Christian and Newsom in Knoxville.
commish13
09-20-2007, 03:09 PM
I've been reading up on this, and the entire fucking town is wrong. A bunch of fucking racists, both the blacks and the whites. The whole town should just be firebombed and then forgotten.
Southtown
09-20-2007, 03:45 PM
Its funny how these naggers really do pick and choose there targets. They even pick and choose which naggers to rag on. Jesse is saying Obama should get involved somehow and even said hes acting white because he hasnt. Meanwhile Charles Barkley said something to the effect of if being a good responsible person is being white,then we need more white people in the world. Shit I read today that he thinks OJ killed those people. Try and find another black person to say that.
I have not heard of one black leader going after Charles for that or any other statements he made that could be considered anti black. I think I know why, because Charles wont pander to them and tell them to go fuck themselves.
The Blacks need to listen more to people like Charles and less to Jesse and AL.
Cromwell
09-20-2007, 04:08 PM
Its funny how these naggers really do pick and choose there targets.
That's why they are "people who annoy you" :haha7:
Kris_LTRMa
09-20-2007, 04:12 PM
If straight white folks march it's racist. Only black folks, hispanics and gays can march.
You forgot the rest of it - if it had been white kids beating a black kid, there'd be cries of racism coming from all over the place right up to the White House. But because it's black kids murdering a white kid, it's turned into the blacks being persecuted once again.
Black people suck
norton23
09-20-2007, 04:48 PM
Wait, the kid was murdered? If so then the person who murdereded him, or persons should die or get life in prision. If it was a severe beating, then the wattermellon suckin' porch monkey big lip nigs should be sentenced accordingly.
"Just cause", isn't a stupid racist thing like putting a noose in a tree. Stupid Negroids::hammer:
I bet there gonna have to have some SERIOUSLY powerfull lights pointed on that town just to walk down the sreet! That town must be dark,,,probably smells like dirty ****** too.
commish13
09-20-2007, 04:52 PM
The kid was beat up, he went to the emergency room, and got out early enough to attend a school function later that evening.
HummerTuesdays
09-20-2007, 04:55 PM
The kid was beat up, he went to the emergency room, and got out early enough to attend a school function later that evening.
Yes, so they need to be charged with something. I agree that attempted murder is a bit overkill. But they definitely deserve to be arrested & punished.
CM Mark
09-20-2007, 04:56 PM
Yes, so they need to be charged with something. I agree that attempted murder is a bit overkill. But they definitely deserve to be arrested & punished.
They should be charged with a 5th degree felony called "Being NigNogs"
norton23
09-20-2007, 05:02 PM
Yes, so they need to be charged with something. I agree that attempted murder is a bit overkill. But they definitely deserve to be arrested & punished.
Thanks commish.
I watch the news all the time. I listen to CNN, and Fox in the background at work, and only heard a few things about this case. I was trying to figure out how if passed me by, and I must of just blocked it out, for whatever reason I thought this was like a few weeks old? Which I guess would make sense, since the kids on trial tonight? I did hear that something had happened and that the kid was being unjustly accused, though. I think attemped murder is something that most people don't realize is not a hard sentence to get, especially when there are six people involved, and there were weapons, which I don't know if there were weapons involved.
The ******* involved will walk, all ******* accross the country will jump for joy, they will continue to collect there wellfare checks and be lazy, and all will be well.
commish13
09-20-2007, 05:15 PM
The six on one beating happened in December 2006.
norton23
09-20-2007, 05:22 PM
The six on one beating happened in December 2006.
So the recent "blurbs," would make sense then. And now I know why I didn't hear about it, I was in Florida with all the other racist's at the time :icon_mrgr Great people down there:clap:
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 05:26 PM
Fuck you people are uniformed border line racists. I know you guys only get your news from the boys so listen to yesterdays show, specifically lil jimmy. Ignore Ant because like yourselves, is equally uniformed.
Background:
A tree sits in the courtyard of a high school. Black kids ask principle if they can sit under tree, principle says yes. White kids get offended(Since its 1856) and hang nooses.
The white kid who took part in hanging the nooses is an admitted racist. He called some of the members of the Jena 6 "*******." He and his buddies also pulled a shot gun on one of the black kids during an unrelated out of school event.
The black kids had enough so they beat the kid up. Six guys against one, he got a black eye and a few scrapes. He was released from the hospital hours later. He then went to a "rally" after that.
The white kids who hung the nooses, got suspended. The black kids that beat up the white kid got ATTEMPTED MURDER CHARGES. That never happens, I broke a kids jaw in high school and only got a two week in-school suspension. The kid had no life threatening injuries and didn't even break a bone.
The white kid is a backwards ass racist. When CNN went to his house to do an interview this morning his father and other family members pulled a shotgun on the news crew.
Its 2007, this shit shouldn't be happening.
fuckwit
09-20-2007, 05:31 PM
Its 2007, this shit shouldn't be happening.
what shouldnt? the hate crime beating?
the white kids who hung ropes off the tree got school punishments because theres no laws against that. the blacks got prosecuted by the state because unfortunately beating up white kids is still against the law. but dont worry your buddy Al and Jesse are working to fix that one
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 05:34 PM
what shouldnt? the hate crime beating?
The attempted murder charges for good ol fashioned ass kicking against a racist fuck who was asking for it.:action-sm
fuckwit
09-20-2007, 05:35 PM
The attempted murder charges for good ol fashioned ass kicking against a racist fuck who was asking for it.:action-sm
the wavey guy makes that cute?
sorry friend but a crime is a crime. and the blacks got off easy. they werent prosecuted as a hate crime. which this clearly was. if the races were reversed this would be playing out alot different
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 05:37 PM
the wavey guy makes that cute?
sorry friend but a crime is a crime. and the blacks got off easy. they werent prosecuted as a hate crime. which this clearly was. if the races were reversed this would be playing out alot different
Your racist selective reasoning is great. Kid hangs nooses, calls kids a ****** and threatens with a shotgun but since he got his ass handed to him, its a hate crime.
I know your all butt hurt about past "Hate crime" rulings but you're an absolute moron to think that these charges fit the crime. If the roles were reversed, the white kids would have never even seen a jail cell.
Jef Leppard
09-20-2007, 05:41 PM
Your racist selective reasoning is great. Kid hangs nooses, calls kids a ****** and threatens with a shotgun but since he got his ass handed to him, its a hate crime.
I know your all butt hurt about past "Hate crime" rulings but you're an absolute moron to think that these charges fit the crime. If the roles were reversed, the white kids would have never even seen a jail cell.
youre fucked .... if it was 6 white kids the attempted murder charges wouldve stuck and the sharpton tribe would be there seeking life sentences
CM Mark
09-20-2007, 05:42 PM
RACE WAR!!!!!!
fuckwit
09-20-2007, 05:42 PM
Your racist selective reasoning is great. Kid hangs nooses, calls kids a ****** and threatens with a shotgun but since he got his ass handed to him, its a hate crime.
I know your all butt hurt about past "Hate crime" rulings but you're an absolute moron to think that these charges fit the crime. If the roles were reversed, the white kids would have never even seen a jail cell.
One sentence you acknowledge the past rulings where whites have done extended time for a crime such as this, then the next you claim a white would never have seen a jail cell. Care to revise?
Why is it that Im the one being selective? I never said the white kids with the nooses wasnt racist. I said the beating was racist. And was a hate crime.
Why do you argue against this being a hate crime? Whats your reasoning?
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 05:46 PM
youre fucked .... if it was 6 white kids the attempted murder charges wouldve stuck and the sharpton tribe would be there seeking life sentences
If it were six whites from Jena, then yes they were probably asking for it.
The fact that any of you are making an excuse for this backward ass hicks actions is amazing.
Can I go to a Jewey Jewey Jewey center and start yelling hate speech, spray painting swastikas and not expect an ass beating? All of you free speech allstars always bring up the part about "Your words can hurt you, You can say whatever you want BUT you have to pay the consequences".
Jethrol hung a noose, pulled a gun and said what he said and he paid the consequence. He got a black eye and some cuts.. while the kids that he provoked were looking at losing half of their lives to a jail cell..
:action-sm
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 05:49 PM
One sentence you acknowledge the past rulings where whites have done extended time for a crime such as this, then the next you claim a white would never have seen a jail cell. Care to revise?
Why is it that Im the one being selective? I never said the white kids with the nooses wasnt racist. I said the beating was racist. And was a hate crime.
Why do you argue against this being a hate crime? Whats your reasoning?
What constiuted a hate crime about the beating? Did the "Jena Six" pick a random white man to take their frustrations out on? Did they beat the guy for being on the wrong side of town? Did they beat him for going out with a black woman? No, they beat the guy because he was running his mouth, throwing out racial slurs and hanging nooses in a public school.
Sure, the whole thing has racial overtones but it wasn't a hate crime. The white kid was being a dick and got his shit handed to him. I fail to see a problem with this. I also fail to see how the crime equals 20 years in jail. Thats why people are protesting and they should.
fuckwit
09-20-2007, 05:53 PM
The fact that any of you are making an excuse for this backward ass hicks actions is amazing.
I didnt make an excuse for the white kid. Anyone here make an excuse? Your the one making excuses and trying to justify the beating.
Can I go to a Jewey Jewey Jewey center and start yelling hate speech, spray painting swastikas and not expect an ass beating?
no you cant. would you expect them to be prosecuted for beating you? or is it someones right within the law to beat another person up because they insulted them?
All of you free speech allstars always bring up the part about "Your words can hurt you, You can say whatever you want BUT you have to pay the consequences".
Jethrol hung a noose, pulled a gun and said what he said and he paid the consequence. He got a black eye and some cuts.. while the kids that he provoked were looking at losing half of their lives to a jail cell..
:action-sm
if you cant do the time dont do the crime. now its the 6 blacks kids turn to get whats comming to them.
Treat_Yourself
09-20-2007, 05:55 PM
Fuck you people are uniformed border line racists. I know you guys only get your news from the boys so listen to yesterdays show, specifically lil jimmy. Ignore Ant because like yourselves, is equally uniformed.
Background:
A tree sits in the courtyard of a high school. Black kids ask principle if they can sit under tree, principle says yes. White kids get offended(Since its 1856) and hang nooses.
The white kid who took part in hanging the nooses is an admitted racist. He called some of the members of the Jena 6 "*******." He and his buddies also pulled a shot gun on one of the black kids during an unrelated out of school event.
The black kids had enough so they beat the kid up. Six guys against one, he got a black eye and a few scrapes. He was released from the hospital hours later. He then went to a "rally" after that.
The white kids who hung the nooses, got suspended. The black kids that beat up the white kid got ATTEMPTED MURDER CHARGES. That never happens, I broke a kids jaw in high school and only got a two week in-school suspension. The kid had no life threatening injuries and didn't even break a bone.
The white kid is a backwards ass racist. When CNN went to his house to do an interview this morning his father and other family members pulled a shotgun on the news crew.
Its 2007, this shit shouldn't be happening.
Yeah, and I don't agree with charging the six with attempted murder, but they did gang up six on one against another person. They also kept hitting him after he was unconscious. It's legal to be racist. Racist speech is actually protected by the constitution. As far as I can tell though it's not legal to beat someone unconscious and keep kicking him while he's down. Now the black kids DO deserve to do a couple of months in county jail. The white kids may be racist, but they broke no law.
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 05:58 PM
I didnt make an excuse for the white kid. Anyone here make an excuse? Your the one making excuses and trying to justify the beating.
no you cant. would you expect them to be prosecuted for beating you? or is it someones right within the law to beat another person up because they insulted them?
if you cant do the time dont do the crime. now its the 6 blacks kids turn to get whats comming to them.
If I walked into a Jewish Temple, wearing a Nazi uniform and preaching hate speech yes I would expect to get the shit kicked out of me. Would I expect those people to be prosecuted? Sure, why not im a backwards ass racist so any jew behind bars is great for me!
Is a black eye and a few scrapes equal to 20 years in jail? No fucking way, you can't say that it is with a straight face. Well, maybe you can.. 95% of the people that have posted in this thread are bigots.
Lets imagine for a second, that your kid takes part in beating the fuck out of another kid. And by beating I mean, no life threatening injuries, a black eye and a few scrapes and the court gives him a 20 year sentence. His life is basically over, you're not gonna fight the verdict?:action-sm
fuckwit
09-20-2007, 06:03 PM
What constiuted a hate crime about the beating? Did the "Jena Six" pick a random white man to take their frustrations out on? Did they beat the guy for being on the wrong side of town? Did they beat him for going out with a black woman? No, they beat the guy because he was running his mouth, throwing out racial slurs and hanging nooses in a public school.
Sure, the whole thing has racial overtones but it wasn't a hate crime. The white kid was being a dick and got his shit handed to him. I fail to see a problem with this. I also fail to see how the crime equals 20 years in jail. Thats why people are protesting and they should.
6 Black kids on 1 white kid. Why if he was just being a dick weren't the perpetrators more racially mixed? Their motive included his race.
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 06:06 PM
6 Black kids on 1 white kid. Why if he was just being a dick weren't the perpetrators more racially mixed? Their motive included his race.
And his didn't? He targeted the kids, hung nooses under the tree they wanted to sit and called them *******. No one is saying that they're innocent but a twenty year sentence is insane.
And really, you've done nothing to prove that this was a genuine hate crime. You're assuming that it was because of the numbers involved yet you discredit the white kids actions leading up to the beating.
Free speech is guaranteed to every citizen but you're responsible for the repercussions. I could walk up to a black guy and call him a nagger but to claim that his actions following that insult would be hate based is insane.
Treat_Yourself
09-20-2007, 06:12 PM
Nevermind. Can this be deleted?
fuckwit
09-20-2007, 06:18 PM
And his didn't? He targeted the kids, hung nooses under the tree they wanted to sit and called them *******.
How can you compare that to a physical attack.
No one is saying that they're innocent but a twenty year sentence is insane.
You think they are serving 20 years? Where is their actual numbers of years they were given and what they get for parole. What are the averages for that crime? Were they treated differently then other criminals? Except for the fact that they werent prosecuted as a hate crime?
And really, you've done nothing to prove that this was a genuine hate crime. You're assuming that it was because of the numbers involved yet you discredit the white kids actions leading up to the beating.
You cant honestly claim this is not a hate crime. I dont have proof. I read a few news articles about some altercations between kids in a highschool that ended with a beating. They all consisted of blacks against whites. A hate crime is motive. When someone is targeted because of their race. Thats what I think this was.
Free speech is guaranteed to every citizen but you're responsible for the repercussions. I could walk up to a black guy and call him a nagger but to claim that his actions following that insult would be hate based is insane.
Your not allowed to beat the shit out of someone. What they did was wrong. Do you get that? Just because they were insulted doesnt mean they have the right to beat another human being.
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 06:24 PM
[QUOTE]
Your not allowed to beat the shit out of someone. What they did was wrong. Do you get that? Just because they were insulted doesnt mean they have the right to beat another human being.
Oh I get it and so does the majority of America. What you fail to get is this is six high school kids who got into a fight. It was hardly an attack and hardly attempted murder or the guys injuries wouldn't be so insignificant. You're playing with absolutes just to get your point across, in the real world crimes should be looked at individually. The white kid made the whole situation about race and the justice system pushed that motive further. If this were five white kids against one white kid or blacks vs blacks no one would be facing jail time.
You've got a case of a racism definitely and its coming from the American public. Apparently, you have no problems with a kid(s) losing the majority of their lives just for a fight that resulted in a black eye.
Its completely obvious that your definition of hate crime is skewed.
d0uche_n0zzle
09-20-2007, 06:28 PM
You're fucked in the head if you don't think six on one is a dangerous situation.
Granted, I believe the attempted murder charges is a bit of a stretch. But, I'm sure the local klan decide to string these uppity naggers up using the court system to learn them some manners and put the rest of them on notice.
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 06:32 PM
You're fucked in the head if you don't think six on one is a dangerous situation.
Granted, I believe the attempted murder charges is a bit of a stretch. But, I'm sure the local klan decide to string these uppity naggers up using the court system to learn them some manners and put the rest of them on notice.
Did I once say they were innocent? No, no one has. But to give a kid twenty years in jail for a black eye is insane. What constitutes an attack? 2 on 1? What constitutes a hate crime? Any race vs race crime?
Theres a lot of reaching for facts in this thread, mainly from the supporters of John Q. Hick.
fuckwit
09-20-2007, 06:34 PM
Oh I get it and so does the majority of America. What you fail to get is this is six high school kids who got into a fight. It was hardly an attack and hardly attempted murder or the guys injuries wouldn't be so insignificant. You're playing with absolutes just to get your point across, in the real world crimes should be looked at individually. The white kid made the whole situation about race and the justice system pushed that motive further. If this were five white kids against one white kid or blacks vs blacks no one would be facing jail time.
You've got a case of a racism definitely and its coming from the American public. Apparently, you have no problems with a kid(s) losing the majority of their lives just for a fight that resulted in a black eye.
Its completely obvious that your definition of hate crime is skewed.
Your trivializing it. He was beaten unconscious . The picture of him from the hospital shows a kid covered in blood, scrapes, and bruises on his face alone. Not just a black eye. It doesnt take 6 people to give you a black eye.
These kids were old enough to know the consequences of what they were doing. Beyond a conscience its the reason why you dont savagely beat random people that piss you off durring your daily affairs. Youll go to jail.
This is what i get when i look it up. What do you see?
hate crime
(plural hate crimes)
noun
crime motivated by hate for group: a crime that is motivated by hate, prejudice, or intolerance of somebody's religion, ethnicity, or sexual orientation
d0uche_n0zzle
09-20-2007, 06:35 PM
Keep in mind where all this shit is taking place it is still the deep south. And as such, they (yes, they) don't like carpet baggers or other meddling yankee's telling them how to "run" their little piece of paradise.
Corruption is alive and doing quite well there too.
fuckwit
09-20-2007, 06:39 PM
Theres a lot of reaching for facts in this thread, mainly from the supporters of John Q. Hick.
keep saying hick. ill go beat the shit out of you. when you wake up in the hospital you can call Sharpton and Jackson and all have a rally for me to argue why I should do a week in county
wait no that doesnt happen for white people
Treat_Yourself
09-20-2007, 06:44 PM
[QUOTE=fuckwit;2097064]
Oh I get it and so does the majority of America. What you fail to get is this is six high school kids who got into a fight. It was hardly an attack and hardly attempted murder or the guys injuries wouldn't be so insignificant. You're playing with absolutes just to get your point across, in the real world crimes should be looked at individually. The white kid made the whole situation about race and the justice system pushed that motive further. If this were five white kids against one white kid or blacks vs blacks no one would be facing jail time.
You've got a case of a racism definitely and its coming from the American public. Apparently, you have no problems with a kid(s) losing the majority of their lives just for a fight that resulted in a black eye.
Its completely obvious that your definition of hate crime is skewed.
Six kids beating on an unconscious kid isn't a normal fight. Sure the white kid was OK, but it wasn't because the six black kids were taking it easy on him. Most people can't hit for shit. That's a fact. That's why the white kid doesn't need help tying his own shoes right now. Six on one and kicking the person when he's knocked out is serious shit.
Earth2murf
09-20-2007, 07:40 PM
i hope the ******* dont **** anyone
Capt.Caveman
09-20-2007, 07:47 PM
What constiuted a hate crime about the beating? Did the "Jena Six" pick a random white man to take their frustrations out on? Did they beat the guy for being on the wrong side of town? Did they beat him for going out with a black woman? No, they beat the guy because he was running his mouth, throwing out racial slurs and hanging nooses in a public school.
Sure, the whole thing has racial overtones but it wasn't a hate crime. The white kid was being a dick and got his shit handed to him. I fail to see a problem with this. I also fail to see how the crime equals 20 years in jail. Thats why people are protesting and they should.
HEY LOOK EVERYONE I"M DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!! I wish daddy would have took me to play mini golf
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 08:00 PM
HEY LOOK EVERYONE I"M DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!! I wish daddy would have took me to play mini golf
Again, no argument from you... just terrible insults and parroted jokes from the show you love oh so much.:action-sm
This thread is full of racists and bigots and none of your arguments have changed that fact.
seeinred
09-20-2007, 08:44 PM
What's racist and bigoted about hoping 6 people get punished for their gang-style beat down of a fellow human?
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 08:53 PM
What's racist and bigoted about hoping 6 people get punished for their gang-style beat down of a fellow human?
Has a little something to do with the seriousness of the injuries sustained... and the punishment for those injuries or lack thereof.
seeinred
09-20-2007, 08:55 PM
It's not like they pushed him down and then walked away (which would be a crime too, technically). They beat the shit out of him on the ground, 6 on 1. Again, I don't know of anyone saying they're attempted murderers, but they deserve punishment for what they did.
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 09:00 PM
It's not like they pushed him down and then walked away (which would be a crime too, technically). They beat the shit out of him on the ground, 6 on 1. Again, I don't know of anyone saying they're attempted murderers, but they deserve punishment for what they did.
Punishment = 22 years for an 18 year old?
No one has said that they shouldn't be punished but to ruin their lives over this is crazy. The racist fuck spent three hours in the hospital. 20 years for the beat down of a backwards ass red neck who instigated the whole situation?
seeinred
09-20-2007, 09:11 PM
I have 2 problems with your argument:
1- Nobody seems to think they should be charged with attempted murder, yet you're harping on that fact.
2- The fact that you think this attack is OK because the kid may or may be a racist makes you just as bad as people saying the Jena 6 should get life without parole.
fuckwit
09-20-2007, 09:12 PM
Punishment = 22 years for an 18 year old?
No one has said that they shouldn't be punished but to ruin their lives over this is crazy. The racist fuck spent three hours in the hospital. 20 years for the beat down of a backwards ass red neck who instigated the whole situation?
I just saw on CNN that the one who this is all about that got 22 years already had a record for battery. As a Juvenile. This is his first conviction as an adult. Mazel tov.
NuttyJim
09-20-2007, 09:16 PM
I like Turtles
fuckwit
09-20-2007, 09:17 PM
^ turtle lover
Baron Von Chez
09-20-2007, 09:22 PM
i was there today and it sure was interesting. as you enter Jena, two white girls hold up cardboard signs saying "Jena is Not Racist". One girl noted (and i did too) was th media was feuling the race war. Instead of dealing with the story of 6 boys attacking one boy, it was more geared onto black vs. white
The place was shut up pretty tight. it was interesting to note that there were white people outside their houses watching the marches.
one report said the white guy had a gun, but the boys disarmed and STILL beat him.
we talked to the guy who planted the "white tree" (white auto teacher) and he said that at an assembly, one black guy jokingly asked the vice principle "could i sit under the white tree" the VP said they could sit anywhere
apparently the white boys who hung the nooses did serve something called "alternative learning". this went to Baton Rouge and was shown that although offensive, they were in their rights.
they took down the tree, which was dumb. The tree wasnt racist, it was the dopes who put the nooses up.
Later arson was commited. it was unknown who the accomplice was, or if it was related at all
then the 6 on 1 happened.
i will say this as a black man here and now
this only FURTHERED racial tensions there.80%(and that might be light) were black people bussed in from everywhere. Toss in your WLIB radio guy and some Black Panthers(who ALWAYS were about peace) and you've got an event with national coverage
i think that there are small sects of dopes that scream "racism" really loud and one of those voices crept into the ear of Rev. Al and Jesse
was the sentenceing fair, probably not, but they DID commit a crime and DESERVE to be punished accordingly
also a big FUCK you to the douchebags who set up tables selling merch about the march, and to spread their "literature" to everyone. i couldnt believe the whoring.
once the dust clears and the media leaves, it'll probably be business as usual
sorry if i was long winded, but i kinda needed to get some of this down somewhere
Capt.Caveman
09-20-2007, 09:28 PM
Again, no argument from you... just terrible insults and parroted jokes from the show you love oh so much.:action-sm
This thread is full of racists and bigots and none of your arguments have changed that fact.
ok firstly who's used that joke?...no one asshat. secondly it's the truth. you HAVE to be different. I hope you die of aids (j. Norton) I gave Jimmy credit. look at me stealing material.
Capt.Caveman
09-20-2007, 09:31 PM
Punishment = 22 years for an 18 year old?
No one has said that they shouldn't be punished but to ruin their lives over this is crazy. The racist fuck spent three hours in the hospital. 20 years for the beat down of a backwards ass red neck who instigated the whole situation?
so the blacks that beat white people for the sake of being white are ok. There is more black on white violence then the other way around. If a black kid goes into a white school he will be embraced, If a white kid goes into a black school he will be beaten up. not speculation fact. they will both face racism. But you HAVE to be different and side with the unpopular opinion cause that's just what u do
Zona992006
09-20-2007, 09:46 PM
Leave it to Sharpton to equate hanging nooses in a tree as a joke and 6 people smashing a guys head over and over. Theres no law against hanging a rope in a tree. Last time I checked though, its not ok for 6 savages to beat someone to a bloody pulp. When is someone going to kill this guy?
You might try and learn the facts. Facts:
A Black kid asked for permission to sit under a white only tree, and the principle said of course.
The next day, the nooses were hung. The kids who hung it got suspended for a week and then was returned to school early.
A white guy in his 20's beat a black high school kid. Nothing happened to him. A white guy went home and got a shot gun and pointed it at 3 black kids. they took it from him and they were charged with assault and theft.
Finally, a white kid kept calling the jena 6 N....ers They got tired of it and beat the shit out of him. He went to the hospital, was released and later went to a dance.
A couple of the jena six that were arrested didn’t even see the fight but were just there when the cops did their thing. One of the witnesses against Mike Bell was one of the kids who hung the noose....lol
They were charged as adults for attempted murder, assault etc etc etc.. the Da could only make attempted murder stick if a weapon was used so he said their sneaker was their weapon. (By the way, it turned out one of the members of the jury was friends of the father of the white kid who got beat up. The black kids public defender was a goose.)
The kid who got beat up was later suspended for bringing in a shot gun to school.
I am almost positive if a black kid brought in a shot gun to school in Jena, he would only be suspended as well....:icon_surp
Zona992006
09-20-2007, 09:50 PM
Keep in mind where all this shit is taking place it is still the deep south. And as such, they (yes, they) don't like carpet baggers or other meddling yankee's telling them how to "run" their little piece of paradise.
Corruption is alive and doing quite well there too.
I agree with Douche Nozzle? oh man.
Zona992006
09-20-2007, 09:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by d0uche_n0zzle
Keep in mind where all this shit is taking place it is still the deep south. And as such, they (yes, they) don't like carpet baggers or other meddling yankee's telling them how to "run" their little piece of paradise.
Corruption is alive and doing quite well there too.
I agree with Douche Nozzle? oh man.
Damn, then I go and read this.
You're fucked in the head if you don't think six on one is a dangerous situation.
Granted, I believe the attempted murder charges is a bit of a stretch. But, I'm sure the local klan decide to string these uppity naggers up using the court system to learn them some manners and put the rest of them on notice.
TheDrip
09-20-2007, 10:07 PM
I have 2 problems with your argument:
1- Nobody seems to think they should be charged with attempted murder, yet you're harping on that fact.
2- The fact that you think this attack is OK because the kid may or may be a racist makes you just as bad as people saying the Jena 6 should get life without parole.
Q F motherfucking T.
Besides deke, does the fact that one had priors mean anything in this? As was stated before, it's tasteless to hang a noose in a tree as a taunt, but it's not illegal. They were suspended for their tastelessness. The principal recommended expulsion, but it was overturned by the super intendant. Probably not a good call, and might have quelled a lot of things if they were expelled.
The gun was brought to school AFTER the incident, it was found in his truck. So I don't know where you're 'facts' in the case are coming from.
6 on 1 is quite far from a little school tiff as you seem to feel the fight was. Coupling that with the fact that they knocked him unconscious after the first hit and then proceeded to hit him and kick him for a bit as he just laid there doesn't really fit the description of your typical school fight. I don't remember seeing those types of fights when I was in school. Did he deserve an ass kicking by somebody, fuck yes, but that doesn't mean you can just throw the law out in this one. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
These protesters are, from the ones I've seen interviewed, calling for all charges to be dropped. What the fuck is that about? The kids should be charged with assault because that's what they did. The white kids might be dicks and racists, but that's not illegal. Again, the white kids didn't do anything illegal, period.
Regardless of everything, this whole case has turned into a big fucking joke. Given the whole situation and all events, the white kids got their punishment, the black kids got the shaft with attempted murder, should have gotten charged with aggravated assault (the original charge), case closed. No matter what, you can't go around and gang-beat people and expect nothing to come out of it. Did the kids get the best defense? No, but when is a public defender ever any real help. The bottom of the law school class needs to work somewhere though.
Oh and deke, your argument that nothing would have happened to the kids if they were white and the beaten one was black is ludicrous. They would have been charged with a hate crime. Whites get charged with hate crimes when they attack minorities.
Oddly, I've never seen a crime that was a friendly good-natured crime, though.
Oh and to refer back to Whoopie's take on Vick, the noose/racist behavior show by them is merely a product of their environment. Nobody probably ever pointed out to them that it's wrong.
mendozathejew
09-20-2007, 11:16 PM
no way did these kids commit attempted murder.
but I have a hard time even giving this story the time of day. was it last year, or two years ago, when I white kid in nyc was chased to his death when a group of black kids chased him yelling get whitey and he got hit by a car?
not a word was spoken of that case in racial terms when it happened. and it was a one day story.
While I love racist humor, I actually like blacks. most of my friends are black. Politically, they act like assholes and I cant stomach the double standard enough to give a shit about this case, past the opinion that this doesnt sound like attempted murder.
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 11:31 PM
so the blacks that beat white people for the sake of being white are ok. There is more black on white violence then the other way around. If a black kid goes into a white school he will be embraced, If a white kid goes into a black school he will be beaten up. not speculation fact. they will both face racism. But you HAVE to be different and side with the unpopular opinion cause that's just what u do
I have to be different? I guess im the only person in America that sees the amazing hypocrisy in this case. Its blatant racism at its finest. Sorry, i'll just stick my head in the sand and go with the flow. It seems to be working great in Jersey.:action-sm
Glenn Dandy
09-20-2007, 11:46 PM
What constiuted a hate crime about the beating? Did the "Jena Six" pick a random white man to take their frustrations out on? Did they beat the guy for being on the wrong side of town? Did they beat him for going out with a black woman? No, they beat the guy because he was running his mouth, throwing out racial slurs and hanging nooses in a public school.
Sure, the whole thing has racial overtones but it wasn't a hate crime. The white kid was being a dick and got his shit handed to him. I fail to see a problem with this. I also fail to see how the crime equals 20 years in jail. Thats why people are protesting and they should.
wORDS? NO CRIME / aSSAULT? crime. PRETTY SIMPLE REALLY.
tHEY ARE CALLED LAWS AND WE ARE TO FOLLOW THEM. also be observant in wich will and will not get our asses in a pinch... the blacks her chose the wrong way.
You might try and learn the facts. Facts:
A Black kid asked for permission to sit under a white only tree, and the principle said of course.
The next day, the nooses were hung. The kids who hung it got suspended for a week and then was returned to school early.
A white guy in his 20's beat a black high school kid. Nothing happened to him. A white guy went home and got a shot gun and pointed it at 3 black kids. they took it from him and they were charged with assault and theft.
Finally, a white kid kept calling the jena 6 N....ers They got tired of it and beat the shit out of him. He went to the hospital, was released and later went to a dance.
A couple of the jena six that were arrested didn’t even see the fight but were just there when the cops did their thing. One of the witnesses against Mike Bell was one of the kids who hung the noose....lol
They were charged as adults for attempted murder, assault etc etc etc.. the Da could only make attempted murder stick if a weapon was used so he said their sneaker was their weapon. (By the way, it turned out one of the members of the jury was friends of the father of the white kid who got beat up. The black kids public defender was a goose.)
The kid who got beat up was later suspended for bringing in a shot gun to school.
I am almost positive if a black kid brought in a shot gun to school in Jena, he would only be suspended as well....:icon_surp
See, this is where I'm torn on this.
Did some of these white kids, and in particular the white kid who was harassing them (maybe he was one of the ones who hung a noose, I'm not sure) deserve one hell of a righteous ass-kicking? Absolutely. Oh christ, they deserved every bit of it for being racist little shits.
At the same time, we ARE a society with rules, and one of them is that if you do go out and hand out ass-beatings to people, you're going to have to deal with some consequences for that.
So while a lot of the shit they got charged with (attempted murder???) was too harsh, c'mon, they deserve SOME sort of punishment. That's the one bad thing I see coming out of this - some people will basically say that the Jena Six don't deserve ANY punishment for what they did. And I can't go that far. You really don't get to commit felony battery on someone, no matter how much they deserve it.
datsyukian deek
09-20-2007, 11:54 PM
Ive never claimed that they shouldn't go without punishment. BUT throwing around 20 year sentences like its nothing is ridiculous. In terms of jail time.. these kids could have:
Took multiple automobiles
Embezzled hundreds of millions of dollars as the CEO of a company.
Rob a bank
Front a dog fighting ring
And all of the above would have resulted in a lesser charge. If you can't agree that the charges are excessive then you're clinically insane and your racism is blinding any and all judgement with the situation.
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Zona992006
09-21-2007, 12:14 AM
See, this is where I'm torn on this.
Did some of these white kids, and in particular the white kid who was harassing them (maybe he was one of the ones who hung a noose, I'm not sure) deserve one hell of a righteous ass-kicking? Absolutely. Oh christ, they deserved every bit of it for being racist little shits.
At the same time, we ARE a society with rules, and one of them is that if you do go out and hand out ass-beatings to people, you're going to have to deal with some consequences for that.
So while a lot of the shit they got charged with (attempted murder???) was too harsh, c'mon, they deserve SOME sort of punishment. That's the one bad thing I see coming out of this - some people will basically say that the Jena Six don't deserve ANY punishment for what they did. And I can't go that far. You really don't get to commit felony battery on someone, no matter how much they deserve it.
Then you missed everything that was said by Sharpton. I actually listened to him this time. He NEVER said these boys are innocent, he just wanted equal sentences...well, some sort of sentence towards the white kids involved in this.
He knows beating a kid is wrong. He always said that, but come on, no white kid got anytime or anything for all they did and what was sent towards the blacks kids was way way out there.
Black Kids = beat down on that white kid = (at first) 25 year sentences
White kids = hung the nooses, adult white guy beat that black kid, pulled a shotgun on three kids (and the black kids were charged for disarming him) and brought a shot gun to school = no charges, no time, no jeopardized futures.
poopiebottoms
09-21-2007, 12:20 AM
I don't understand why the "6" weren't ever charged with a hate-crime?
People are upset because they think they were over-charged, but they were never charged with a hate-crime.
If six white students beat a black student up, even if no racial slurs or motives can be determined, it still would off the bat be considered a hate-crime. If it wasn't they'd have the same 40k people and Sharpton marching because it wasn't.
Jesus, I'm the biggest freaking left-wing, liberal out there, and I still don't see the logic in this.
Additionally, if six people jump a single person, it is at least aggravated assault, regardless of the skin-color. What the hell are those 40K people so upset about? It should be the white people marching demanding equal protection under the law.
Maybe I don't have all of the facts, but this is all I'm hearing from the media coverage.
Zona992006
09-21-2007, 12:23 AM
I don't understand why the "6" weren't ever charged with a hate-crime?
People are upset because they think they were over-charged, but they were never charged with a hate-crime.
If six white students beat a black student up, even if no racial slurs or motives can be determined, it still would off the bat be considered a hate-crime. If it wasn't they'd have the same 40k people and Sharpton marching because it wasn't.
Jesus, I'm the biggest freaking left-wing, liberal out there, and I still don't see the logic in this.
Additionally, if six people jump a single person, it is at least aggravated assault, regardless of the skin-color. What the hell are those 40K people so upset about? It should be the white people marching demanding equal protection under the law.
Maybe I don't have all of the facts, but this is all I'm hearing from the media coverage.
Just sit back and enjoy the ride. I am.
Jef Leppard
09-21-2007, 12:42 AM
oh and 6/1 = predatory pack mentality / prey........it only ends 1 way now im done with this thread and gonna go look for pee vids to post
seeinred
09-21-2007, 01:24 AM
i was there today and it sure was interesting. as you enter Jena, two white girls hold up cardboard signs saying "Jena is Not Racist". One girl noted (and i did too) was th media was feuling the race war. Instead of dealing with the story of 6 boys attacking one boy, it was more geared onto black vs. white
The place was shut up pretty tight. it was interesting to note that there were white people outside their houses watching the marches.
one report said the white guy had a gun, but the boys disarmed and STILL beat him.
we talked to the guy who planted the "white tree" (white auto teacher) and he said that at an assembly, one black guy jokingly asked the vice principle "could i sit under the white tree" the VP said they could sit anywhere
apparently the white boys who hung the nooses did serve something called "alternative learning". this went to Baton Rouge and was shown that although offensive, they were in their rights.
they took down the tree, which was dumb. The tree wasnt racist, it was the dopes who put the nooses up.
Later arson was commited. it was unknown who the accomplice was, or if it was related at all
then the 6 on 1 happened.
i will say this as a black man here and now
this only FURTHERED racial tensions there.80%(and that might be light) were black people bussed in from everywhere. Toss in your WLIB radio guy and some Black Panthers(who ALWAYS were about peace) and you've got an event with national coverage
i think that there are small sects of dopes that scream "racism" really loud and one of those voices crept into the ear of Rev. Al and Jesse
was the sentenceing fair, probably not, but they DID commit a crime and DESERVE to be punished accordingly
also a big FUCK you to the douchebags who set up tables selling merch about the march, and to spread their "literature" to everyone. i couldnt believe the whoring.
once the dust clears and the media leaves, it'll probably be business as usual
sorry if i was long winded, but i kinda needed to get some of this down somewhere
That's cool that you got to see all of that first hand, and I can appreciate and agree with your perspective on things about the whole situation for the most part.
I have to be different? I guess im the only person in America that sees the amazing hypocrisy in this case. Its blatant racism at its finest. Sorry, i'll just stick my head in the sand and go with the flow. It seems to be working great in Jersey.:action-sm
Are you just trolling? People have refuted your points countless times and pointed out the hyporcrisy of your own words, yet you can't seem to get past it.
See, this is where I'm torn on this.
Did some of these white kids, and in particular the white kid who was harassing them (maybe he was one of the ones who hung a noose, I'm not sure) deserve one hell of a righteous ass-kicking? Absolutely. Oh christ, they deserved every bit of it for being racist little shits.
At the same time, we ARE a society with rules, and one of them is that if you do go out and hand out ass-beatings to people, you're going to have to deal with some consequences for that.
So while a lot of the shit they got charged with (attempted murder???) was too harsh, c'mon, they deserve SOME sort of punishment. That's the one bad thing I see coming out of this - some people will basically say that the Jena Six don't deserve ANY punishment for what they did. And I can't go that far. You really don't get to commit felony battery on someone, no matter how much they deserve it.
EXACTLY! If the kid was dropping the N bomb in front of 6 kids then A: he's a fucking moron and B: he deserved to get roughed up a little bit. I have absolutely no problem with a little bit of "vigilante justice" if that's what you want to call this, but the fact of the matter is that the Jena 6 went too far with it. And they need to be shown that racist speak is not justification for a gang-style beatdown.
My problem I guess has little to do with the crime itself, and more with the fact that the media and prominent blacks are blowing this so fucking far out of proportion.
BullsLawDan
09-21-2007, 01:34 AM
Free speech is guaranteed to every citizen but you're responsible for the repercussions. I could walk up to a black guy and call him a nagger but to claim that his actions following that insult would be hate based is insane.
You need some legal education. Conveniently for this thread's readers, I have one.
The "repercussions" of free speech do not include being assaulted - in that case, it is not free speech.
The act of hanging a noose from a tree was not punishable under Louisiana law.
The act of assaulting someone is.
All of the kids who did the assault have had their charges lowered to aggravated battery. More than likely, the DA initially charged attempted murder but lowered the charges after reading the file and discovering that those charges were unwarranted. That is how district attorneys operate - initially charge the highest possible crimes, because criminal charges can be dropped down upon new evidence much easier than ratcheted up, and it also gives DA's more leverage to plea bargain.
Gee, it's almost as if the DA can do his fucking job without idiots like this and Reverend Al interfering. Imagine that. :icon_roll
stillbornstew
09-21-2007, 02:31 AM
You need some legal education. Conveniently for this thread's readers, I have one.
The "repercussions" of free speech do not include being assaulted - in that case, it is not free speech.
The act of hanging a noose from a tree was not punishable under Louisiana law.
The act of assaulting someone is.
All of the kids who did the assault have had their charges lowered to aggravated battery. More than likely, the DA initially charged attempted murder but lowered the charges after reading the file and discovering that those charges were unwarranted. That is how district attorneys operate - initially charge the highest possible crimes, because criminal charges can be dropped down upon new evidence much easier than ratcheted up, and it also gives DA's more leverage to plea bargain.
Gee, it's almost as if the DA can do his fucking job without idiots like this and Reverend Al interfering. Imagine that. :icon_roll
thank you sir.
as a former resident of the state of louisiana (i'm from new orleans, and i could give 2 shits about anything thing else in the horrible state), and from knowing people who live in the vicinity, and having actually been in that general area before i can say that any resident claiming everyone "get's along" is full of shit. those poeple carry guns on a regular basis, and open racism is just par for the course.
ANYONE white or black should be held accountable for their actions. sadly the scales of justice are tipped prejudiciously in favor of whites.
and sadly this isn't uncommon in southern la.
i'm not going to say anything that's already been said repeatedly :deadhorse
it just serves as a reminder as to why i'll never live there again.
wes mantooth
09-21-2007, 06:08 AM
Multiple ******* beating up a white. Sounds like most of the fights I saw in high school.
"fight! fight! black and a white, if the white boy wins we all jump in!"
Typical jungle logic. It'll prevail in this case as well. Whites just don't the have energy to combat uppity negros when they're in pack mode. We have jobs to do.
HummerTuesdays
09-21-2007, 09:02 AM
You might try and learn the facts. Facts:
A Black kid asked for permission to sit under a white only tree, and the principle said of course.
The next day, the nooses were hung. The kids who hung it got suspended for a week and then was returned to school early.
A white guy in his 20's beat a black high school kid. Nothing happened to him. A white guy went home and got a shot gun and pointed it at 3 black kids. they took it from him and they were charged with assault and theft.
Finally, a white kid kept calling the jena 6 N....ers They got tired of it and beat the shit out of him. He went to the hospital, was released and later went to a dance.
A couple of the jena six that were arrested didn’t even see the fight but were just there when the cops did their thing. One of the witnesses against Mike Bell was one of the kids who hung the noose....lol
They were charged as adults for attempted murder, assault etc etc etc.. the Da could only make attempted murder stick if a weapon was used so he said their sneaker was their weapon. (By the way, it turned out one of the members of the jury was friends of the father of the white kid who got beat up. The black kids public defender was a goose.)
The kid who got beat up was later suspended for bringing in a shot gun to school.
I am almost positive if a black kid brought in a shot gun to school in Jena, he would only be suspended as well....:icon_surp
You have a bad habit of spouting off bullshit & not backing it up. I'd like to see at least one link to a reliable source that confirms the above situation. I'm not saying it's all lies, I'm just saying that I'm sick & tired of your hearsay bullshit.
Sidekick Dave
09-21-2007, 01:12 PM
I don't mind repeating myself. I really don't:
And I'll translate this in a way that some baggers here can only understand. A bunch of White kids threatened to lynch six Black kids in Jena, La. All because of their skin color. The Black kids defended themselves and are now charged with attempted murder. I'm sorry that Hitler didn't achieve his quest to have a perfect race. I'm sorry for everyone on here that all non-whites haven't been eradicated. Non-whites are here to stay and they haven't bothered me (Well...maybe one did but she was in a minority no pun intended).
Bottom Line: Mongrels don't bother me and if they bother people here so much then there is the sea. March your pastly white asses into there.
Sidekick Dave
09-21-2007, 01:15 PM
You have a bad habit of spouting off bullshit & not backing it up. I'd like to see at least one link to a reliable source that confirms the above situation. I'm not saying it's all lies, I'm just saying that I'm sick & tired of your hearsay bullshit.
...ummm you know something Hummer? Quite frankly I'm sick and tired of your fucking bullshit and if you can't handle the facts then get the fuck out of here. Bye. There's the fucking door. Make sure that it doesn't hit you on the way out.
Treat_Yourself
09-21-2007, 01:16 PM
I don't mind repeating myself. I really don't:
And I'll translate this in a way that some baggers here can only understand. A bunch of White kids threatened to lynch six Black kids in Jena, La. All because of their skin color. The Black kids defended themselves and are now charged with attempted murder. I'm sorry that Hitler didn't achieve his quest to have a perfect race. I'm sorry for everyone on here that all non-whites haven't been eradicated. Non-whites are here to stay and they haven't bothered me (Well...maybe one did but she was in a minority no pun intended).
Bottom Line: Mongrels don't bother me and if they bother people here so much then there is the sea. March your pastly white asses into there.
Go ahead and read the thread. Learn about what's really going on, then feel free to correct your post.
Sidekick Dave
09-21-2007, 01:43 PM
Go ahead and read the thread. Learn about what's really going on, then feel free to correct your post.
See unlike you, I am educated to know the facts and I don't follow this backwards racism of yours sir. There is no way that you can defend someone who wants to hang six black kids. How the fuck is it attempted murder? Huh?
If anything the white kid should be charged with attempted murder for hanging the nooses around a tree on school property. With all of the school violence that has become a mainstay, it would only seem fair to get this punk white kid for what he is worth. If the white kid was charged with attempted murder, then you wouldn't have the protesters like Jesse and Reverend Al marching in Jena, La. Understand buddy boy?
Treat_Yourself
09-21-2007, 01:50 PM
See unlike you, I am educated to know the facts and I don't follow this backwards racism of yours sir. There is no way that you can defend someone who wants to hang six black kids. How the fuck is it attempted murder? Huh?
If anything the white kid should be charged with attempted murder for hanging the nooses around a tree on school property. With all of the school violence that has become a mainstay, it would only seem fair to get this punk white kid for what he is worth. If the white kid was charged with attempted murder, then you wouldn't have the protesters like Jesse and Reverend Al marching in Jena, La. Understand buddy boy?
You're assuming that hanging some nooses from a tree automatically constitutes a serious and immediate threat. These are high school kids. The incident probably started as a stupid and racist prank. Not a serious threat.
The kids aren't charged with attempted murder. If you'd bothered to take my advice and read through the thread you'd know that the charges were reduced to second degree aggravated battery a while back. You can stop harping on those attempted murder charges now. They're irrelevent.
You can't charge someone with attempted murder for hanging a noose from a tree. That should be obvious to anyone.
I understand that you're misinformed and too stubborn to look at the real facts.
HummerTuesdays
09-21-2007, 01:59 PM
...ummm you know something Hummer? Quite frankly I'm sick and tired of your fucking bullshit and if you can't handle the facts then get the fuck out of here. Bye. There's the fucking door. Make sure that it doesn't hit you on the way out.
If these are facts, then maybe you'll help out your fellow wackbaggers and get some links. If you don't like it, you can fucking leave. Again. :action-sm
fuckwit
09-21-2007, 02:01 PM
Again.
oh snap
Then you missed everything that was said by Sharpton. I actually listened to him this time. He NEVER said these boys are innocent, he just wanted equal sentences...well, some sort of sentence towards the white kids involved in this.
He knows beating a kid is wrong. He always said that, but come on, no white kid got anytime or anything for all they did and what was sent towards the blacks kids was way way out there.
Black Kids = beat down on that white kid = (at first) 25 year sentences
White kids = hung the nooses, adult white guy beat that black kid, pulled a shotgun on three kids (and the black kids were charged for disarming him) and brought a shot gun to school = no charges, no time, no jeopardized futures.
I didn't say that Rev. Al WOULD claim they're 100% innocent.....but I did say, I could see some people arguing it. I still think we'll probably see it happen from someone. And like I mentioned, it's hard to really come down hard on someone for giving a racist a beating.....even though you are free to be a racist piece of shit in this country (hi, Rev. Al!). But that said, if you do it, you're gonna have to deal with what comes of it. I question what Rev. Al's definition of "equal punishment" would be, though.
This case, no pun intended, is not so black and white. There's some unfavorable details involved for both sides. Jason Whitlock (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/284511.html) has an article on it, and here's a quote from it:
A black U.S. attorney, Don Washington, investigated the “Jena Six” case and concluded that the attack on Barker had absolutely nothing to do with the noose-hanging incident three months before. The nooses and two off-campus incidents were tied to Barker’s assault by people wanting to gain sympathy for the “Jena Six” in reaction to Walters’ extreme charges of attempted murder.
Much has been written about Bell’s trial, the six-person all-white jury that convicted him of aggravated battery and conspiracy to commit aggravated battery and the clueless public defender who called no witnesses and offered no defense. It is rarely mentioned that no black people responded to the jury summonses and that Bell’s public defender was black.
Ultimately, do I think the charges were a bit too harsh? Yes, but really, for what they did, they need some sort of punishment. Is it fucked up that the racist honkeys were able to harass the black kids and get away with it (with out much more than a suspension)? Undoubtedly, although I think those of you who are claiming THAT is tantamount to "attempted murder" are going way, way off on the hyperbole scale, and besides, I must admit that I'm not overly fond of hate-crime legislation (partly because it's somewhat criminalizing THOUGHT, which is troubling, but mostly because it's almost universally applicated unevenly). But the one white kid who pulled a shotgun? Oh yeah, THAT motherfucker, at the LEAST, should have gone down for felony assault. You don't get to pull that sort of shit.
Sidekick Dave
09-21-2007, 02:32 PM
You're assuming that hanging some nooses from a tree automatically constitutes a serious and immediate threat. These are high school kids. The incident probably started as a stupid and racist prank. Not a serious threat.
The kids aren't charged with attempted murder. If you'd bothered to take my advice and read through the thread you'd know that the charges were reduced to second degree aggravated battery a while back. You can stop harping on those attempted murder charges now. They're irrelevent.
You can't charge someone with attempted murder for hanging a noose from a tree. That should be obvious to anyone.
I understand that you're misinformed and too stubborn to look at the real facts.
You're lucky that you don't live in Boston because I so want to deck you right now.
If it were such a prank? Why weren't the black kids laughing? In fact, why wasn't this on MTV's High School Pranks show? I'm sure that it would've been a really good episode.
I know that the murder charges were reduced you fucking cracker. Thanks. But just the fact that this kid was charged with murder boggles the mind. How the fuck does a pasty white honky get off and six black kids go to jail? Are you so offended as white people that you cannot think outside the box. But then again I remembered that this is wackbag and most of the people here are racist white honky fucks. So, getting though to you is a waste of time.
I hope that a bunch of black kids find you and put you in the hospital. Because you are a white piece of shit.
fuckwit
09-21-2007, 02:35 PM
You're lucky that you don't live in Boston because I so want to deck you right now.
If it were such a prank? Why weren't the black kids laughing? In fact, why wasn't this on MTV's High School Pranks show? I'm sure that it would've been a really good episode.
I know that the murder charges were reduced you fucking cracker. Thanks. But just the fact that this kid was charged with murder boggles the mind. How the fuck does a pasty white honky get off and six black kids go to jail? Are you so offended as white people that you cannot think outside the box. But then again I remembered that this is wackbag and most of the people here are racist white honky fucks. So, getting though to you is a waste of time.
I hope that a bunch of black kids find you and put you in the hospital. Because you are a white piece of shit.
you better be black
HummerTuesdays
09-21-2007, 02:37 PM
IHow the fuck does a pasty white honky get off and six black kids go to jail?
I hope that a bunch of black kids find you and put you in the hospital. Because you are a white piece of shit.
Ok, I'm going to try to do this simply. The white kids did not cause any bodily harm to anyone. They hung some rope in a tree. No one had to go to the hospital because of it. It was on school grounds & they got suspended. I am not saying what they did is right, I'm just trying to get you to see the consequences of people's actions.
The black kids physically harmed someone. He did not have any broken bones, and from what I can tell he didn't have a concussion. Just some swelling and bruises. They PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED a person that was not posing an immediate threat to their safety. There was six against one. Is "attempted murder" harsh? Yes. Do they deserve to be arrested & charged with something less than attempted murder? Yes.
And right back at ya. Not only do I hope six girls beat your ass, but i hope they are of various racial & national backgrounds, and I hope they get caught but no charges pressed.
Treat_Yourself
09-21-2007, 02:38 PM
You're lucky that you don't live in Boston because I so want to deck you right now. Internet tough guy. You're so fucking scary. Please, stop it.
If it were such a prank? Why weren't the black kids laughing? In fact, why wasn't this on MTV's High School Pranks show? I'm sure that it would've been a really good episode. I wrote that it was a stupid, racist prank. I guess it's more convenient to neglect what I wrote though. Otherwise you'd have to admit you're wrong and intellectually lazy and dishonest.
I know that the murder charges were reduced you fucking cracker. Thanks. But just the fact that this kid was charged with murder boggles the mind. How the fuck does a pasty white honky get off and six black kids go to jail? Are you so offended as white people that you cannot think outside the box. But then again I remembered that this is wackbag and most of the people here are racist white honky fucks. So, getting though to you is a waste of time. Blah blah blah cracker blah blah blah. If you knew how to read well enough to get through the thread you'd see that nobody here is defending the attempted murder charges and nobody is saying the white kids were innocent. I guess I shouldn't expect you to have that level of reading comprehension though. It's ok. I'm sure you're my equal anyway.
I hope that a bunch of black kids find you and put you in the hospital. Because you are a white piece of shit. So was your great great grandfather. Fucking racist.
So was your great great grandfather. Fucking racist.
Dude. DUUUUUUUUUUDE.
I think you need to step back a moment and chill.
Also, don't you think it's a bit ridiculous to be calling this guy a racist, when you just said you'd like him to be physically assaulted by a group of black kids.
All over a disagreement on a fucking MESSAGE BOARD.
Treat_Yourself
09-21-2007, 02:45 PM
Dude. DUUUUUUUUUUDE.
I think you need to step back a moment and chill.
Also, don't you think it's a bit ridiculous to be calling this guy a racist, when you just said you'd like him to be physically assaulted by a group of black kids.
All over a disagreement on a fucking MESSAGE BOARD.
Actually he said I should be assaulted by a group of black kids and that he wants to deck me, but you're right. I got a little carried away.
Sidekick Dave
09-21-2007, 02:49 PM
Internet tough guy. You're so fucking scary. Please, stop it. I wrote that it was a stupid, racist prank. I guess it's more convenient to neglect what I wrote though. Otherwise you'd have to admit you're wrong and intellectually lazy and dishonest. Blah blah blah cracker blah blah blah. If you knew how to read well enough to get through the thread you'd see that nobody here is defending the attempted murder charges and nobody is saying the white kids were innocent. I guess I shouldn't expect you to have that level of reading comprehension though. It's ok. I'm sure you're my equal anyway.
So was your great great grandfather. Fucking racist.
Actually my Great Great Great Grandfather was Italian, Greek and Egyptian. Try again fucko!
Treat_Yourself
09-21-2007, 02:50 PM
Actually my Great Great Great Grandfather was Italian, Greek and Egyptian. Try again fucko!
I'm done with you. I'm not feeding into your ignorant shit. You're a troll. People like you add nothing to message boards. This is my last response to you.
Sidekick Dave
09-21-2007, 03:01 PM
Ok, I'm going to try to do this simply. The white kids did not cause any bodily harm to anyone. They hung some rope in a tree. No one had to go to the hospital because of it. It was on school grounds & they got suspended. I am not saying what they did is right, I'm just trying to get you to see the consequences of people's actions.
The black kids physically harmed someone. He did not have any broken bones, and from what I can tell he didn't have a concussion. Just some swelling and bruises. They PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED a person that was not posing an immediate threat to their safety. There was six against one. Is "attempted murder" harsh? Yes. Do they deserve to be arrested & charged with something less than attempted murder? Yes.
And right back at ya. Not only do I hope six girls beat your ass, but i hope they are of various racial & national backgrounds, and I hope they get caught but no charges pressed.
I'm hope that I get assulted too. I'm so sorry that you are offended as a whitey. I'm sure that if the Blacks didn't complain about this issue, that if they took this joke lightly, then you people would still find something to complain about with Black people. Because many people of differerent skin origins have wronged you. What did these kids do to you.
If you read the news, I mean actually read the news, you might be surprised to find that the white kid broke two of the six black kid's jaws. The white kid was suspended for the day but later returned to school (This was in the USA today from two weeks ago, so sorry about the minus of links). The black kids who were injured, were somehow arrested and denied medical care. They were released the next day.
So, you're right. I was wrong all along. These little niglets were harrassing an innocent, hard working young american and they broke the law. I get it. These kids should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law with the harshest of penalties implemented. You guys are so on the money. Fuck these lil' nig-nogs. White power all the way!
Sidekick Dave
09-21-2007, 03:03 PM
I'm done with you. I'm not feeding into your ignorant shit. You're a troll. People like you add nothing to message boards. This is my last response to you.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Try again dumbass
Sidekick Dave
09-21-2007, 03:16 PM
Thanks commish.
I watch the news all the time. I listen to CNN, and Fox in the background at work, and only heard a few things about this case. I was trying to figure out how if passed me by, and I must of just blocked it out, for whatever reason I thought this was like a few weeks old? Which I guess would make sense, since the kids on trial tonight? I did hear that something had happened and that the kid was being unjustly accused, though. I think attemped murder is something that most people don't realize is not a hard sentence to get, especially when there are six people involved, and there were weapons, which I don't know if there were weapons involved.
The ******* involved will walk, all ******* accross the country will jump for joy, they will continue to collect there wellfare checks and be lazy, and all will be well.
I'll be easy on you Norton23 because you're a Red Sox fan (BTW they will turn it on again tonight in Tampa; GO SOX).
Why do you think that all is well with the Blacks? I'm sure that they aren't doing this to piss off whitey. I don't even think that they like being on welfare. I don't even think that all of them are on welfare as well. Now I know that you don't mean this and you seem like a very intelligent person unlike some of the other fat lazy hicks on this board, so let me ask you this:
Would you think the same way that you do right now if you were Black?
Because I want to know. Some people like my Mother from Upstate New York, she says things about non-whites that I know comes out of her head and not her heart. Chris Rock said it best in "Bigger and Blacker" from 1999:
"Ya know, the white man always complains about how 'were losing and were losing and those people are taking our jobs and stealing out women.' If they're losing, then who's winning? Because it certainly ain't us."
Put yourself in the shoes of a Black Person for a week and see how it really is. Thank you.
Put yourself in the shoes of a Black Person for a week and see how it really is. Thank you.
Awesome. *looks at watch* Starts......now.
Man, them fucking crackers always holding me down.
d0uche_n0zzle
09-21-2007, 03:36 PM
Actually my Great Great Great Grandfather was Italian, Greek and Egyptian. Try again fucko!
Are you saying that you are brown like a piece of shit? "whaa"
good thing the uppity ******* didnt have a shovel. what the fuck did they think was going to happen when they ghetto stomped whitey. YOU LIVE IN THE SOUTH.
Are you saying that you are brown like a piece of shit? "whaa"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41267000/jpg/_41267333_ali300getty.jpg
"What's....the difference....between a black man, and a bag of shit?.....I got a million of 'em.....I got a million of 'em...."
Myhairygrundle
09-21-2007, 03:45 PM
Ok, I'm going to try to do this simply. The white kids did not cause any bodily harm to anyone. They hung some rope in a tree. No one had to go to the hospital because of it. It was on school grounds & they got suspended. I am not saying what they did is right, I'm just trying to get you to see the consequences of people's actions.
The black kids physically harmed someone. He did not have any broken bones, and from what I can tell he didn't have a concussion. Just some swelling and bruises. They PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED a person that was not posing an immediate threat to their safety. There was six against one. Is "attempted murder" harsh? Yes. Do they deserve to be arrested & charged with something less than attempted murder? Yes.
And right back at ya. Not only do I hope six girls beat your ass, but i hope they are of various racial & national backgrounds, and I hope they get caught but no charges pressed.
That is a great, well-thought assesment there, missy.
I agree 100% and bring nothing to the table.
.
HummerTuesdays
09-21-2007, 04:02 PM
I'm hope that I get assulted too. I'm so sorry that you are offended as a whitey. I'm sure that if the Blacks didn't complain about this issue, that if they took this joke lightly, then you people would still find something to complain about with Black people. Because many people of differerent skin origins have wronged you. What did these kids do to you.
If you read the news, I mean actually read the news, you might be surprised to find that the white kid broke two of the six black kid's jaws. The white kid was suspended for the day but later returned to school (This was in the USA today from two weeks ago, so sorry about the minus of links). The black kids who were injured, were somehow arrested and denied medical care. They were released the next day.
So, you're right. I was wrong all along. These little niglets were harrassing an innocent, hard working young american and they broke the law. I get it. These kids should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law with the harshest of penalties implemented. You guys are so on the money. Fuck these lil' nig-nogs. White power all the way!
You really don't get it. You see "wackbag" and right away you think we're all racisit, meanwhile alot of us here call it like we see it. You fail to read, or comprehend that we all agree that attempted murder was too harsh, but we don't want the criminals to be let go. We all agree that nooses in a tree was assinine and stupid, and the kids got suspended.
And until you present me with a link of the events, I'm just goin to consider them delusional ramblings from some one with too much time on his hands.
Treat_Yourself
09-21-2007, 04:06 PM
You really don't get it. You see "wackbag" and right away you think we're all racisit, meanwhile alot of us here call it like we see it. You fail to read, or comprehend that we all agree that attempted murder was too harsh, but we don't want the criminals to be let go. We all agree that nooses in a tree was assinine and stupid, and the kids got suspended.
And until you present me with a link of the events, I'm just goin to consider them delusional ramblings from some one with too much time on his hands.
I googled "Jena six" and "broken jaw" and got no article or even message board post to corroberate his story about the white kid breaking the black kid's jaws. He's pulling this shit out of his ass.
WhiskeyWhispers
09-21-2007, 04:18 PM
racist white honky fucks
Call the kettle black much?
After reading your horseshit, your a fucking douchebag and I don't give a fuck what you are. You need to die, plain and simple.
Black, white, or a mix of both, you just made me a little more racist today. Feed the hate faggot.
Capt.Caveman
09-21-2007, 05:35 PM
I have to be different? I guess im the only person in America that sees the amazing hypocrisy in this case. Its blatant racism at its finest. Sorry, i'll just stick my head in the sand and go with the flow. It seems to be working great in Jersey.:action-sm
Another jersey joke....give me those ribs you........HACK
as usual skip over all the points and just make a statement. don't have a comeback for anything.
wes mantooth
09-21-2007, 05:41 PM
I love how Sidekick Dave only gets bent out of shape over black kids having their feelings hurt (nothing physical of course). Hundreds of threads on here about people doing horrendous shit (most of them black) and this is the one where he makes a stand.
Dave, you're a fucking idiot and I wish you would leave this board for good. You won't though, you love the attention too much. Even the negative attention is better than being ignored isn't it Dave? Too much like real life I guess.
Zona992006
09-21-2007, 06:45 PM
oh and 6/1 = predatory pack mentality / prey........it only ends 1 way now im done with this thread and gonna go look for pee vids to post
and 1/1 23 year old man vs. the high school teen = predatory redneck mentality. What happened to white MAN who beat that kid, nothing of course, this is La...where is this pee vid you mentioned?
Lets face it, the white kid who got beat (unjustly IMHO) teased the 6 black kids about the beating the black kid got from the 23 year old and kept calling them N...ers.. He wasn’t the sharpest tool in the shed for starting shit racially with 6 black kids. oh, don't forget, he bought in a shotgun INTO THE SCHOOL and all he got was suspended recently. Got to love the south.
Zona992006
09-21-2007, 06:54 PM
You really don't get it. You see "wackbag" and right away you think we're all racisit, meanwhile alot of us here call it like we see it. You fail to read, or comprehend that we all agree that attempted murder was too harsh, but we don't want the criminals to be let go. We all agree that nooses in a tree was assinine and stupid, and the kids got suspended.
And until you present me with a link of the events, I'm just goin to consider them delusional ramblings from some one with too much time on his hands.
They got "in school suspensions"....come on dude, you have to admit this is a bit crazy.
seeinred
09-21-2007, 08:43 PM
http://triptronix.net/ishbadiddle/images/IRRATIONAL.gif
This got real fun real fast.
Schmed
09-21-2007, 08:46 PM
I guess according this this logic Fat Nick is the victim.
Ponderous, f-ing Ponderous.
Schmed
09-21-2007, 08:53 PM
Dave, how about this one, are the murders the victims here too? We see how this one was covered by the media (sarc), did not fit their profile of good liberals
Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom set out on a date Saturday to a restaurant and to visit a friend. Christopher ended up dead and his body dumped and burned. Channon was kidnapped, ***** for several days and then murdered. Her body was found in the home of one of the suspects. All four suspects are black and the victims are white. Despite the brutality involved, the article avoids describing the crime as being motivated by hate but simply “being in the wrong place at the wrong time.” Article and videos here. The second video goes further, asking “Did their path along Washington Pike lead them into danger,” implying the victims are to blame.
Does not apply if your are black in the "wrong" area though, then it's a hate crime.
Suspects Eric Boyd, George Thomas, Lemaricus Davidson and Letalvis Cobbins:
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Victims Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom:
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Capt.Caveman
09-21-2007, 08:58 PM
I guess according this this logic Fat Nick is the victim.
Ponderous, f-ing Ponderous.
not a victim....a HERO to us all
Sidekick Dave
09-22-2007, 04:53 PM
Dave, how about this one, are the murders the victims here too? We see how this one was covered by the media (sarc), did not fit their profile of good liberals
Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom set out on a date Saturday to a restaurant and to visit a friend. Christopher ended up dead and his body dumped and burned. Channon was kidnapped, ***** for several days and then murdered. Her body was found in the home of one of the suspects. All four suspects are black and the victims are white. Despite the brutality involved, the article avoids describing the crime as being motivated by hate but simply “being in the wrong place at the wrong time.” Article and videos here. The second video goes further, asking “Did their path along Washington Pike lead them into danger,” implying the victims are to blame.
Does not apply if your are black in the "wrong" area though, then it's a hate crime.
Suspects Eric Boyd, George Thomas, Lemaricus Davidson and Letalvis Cobbins:
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Victims Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom:
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How...how are the murderers victims? And my logic is fucked up you say?
wes mantooth
09-22-2007, 07:46 PM
Some facts about the case and not made up jungle bunny hysteria.
It's a long ass article. I only posted the part dealing with the chronology of events.
http://my.earthlink.net/article/nat?guid=20070922/46f49340_3421_1334520070922345513498
Clearly, something bad occurred in Jena, population 2,971, an old sawmill town in LaSalle Parish that, once upon a time, was Ku Klux Klan country. And, as most white and black residents readily agree, there is no good reason for embracing what unfolded here.
But what happened, exactly?
The story goes that a year ago, a black student asked at an assembly if he could sit in the shade of a live oak, which, the story goes, was labeled "the white tree" because only white students hung out there. The next day, three nooses dangled from the oak - code for "KKK" - the handiwork of three white students, who were suspended for just three days.
Much of that is disputed. What happened next is not: Two months later, an arsonist torched a wing of Jena High School. (The case remains unsolved.)
Two fights between blacks and whites roiled the town that weekend, culminating in a school-yard brawl on Dec. 4 that led the district attorney to charge the Jena Six with attempted murder. The lethal weapon he cited to justify the charge: the boys' sneakers.
In July, the first to be tried, Mychal Bell, was convicted after two hours of deliberations by an all-white jury on reduced charges of aggravated battery and conspiracy to commit it.
(It was widely reported that Bell, now 17, was an honor student with no prior criminal record. Although he had a high grade-point average, he was, in fact, on probation for at least two counts of battery and a count of criminal damage to property. In any event, his conviction was overturned because an appeals court ruled he should not have been tried as an adult.)
There is, however, a more nuanced rendition of events - one that can be found in court testimony, in interviews with teachers, officials and students at Jena High, and in public statements from a U.S. attorney who reviewed the case for possible federal intervention.
Consider:
-The so-called "white tree" at Jena High, often reported to be the domain of only white students, was nothing of the sort, according to teachers and school administrators; students of all races, they say, congregated under it at one time or another.
-Two nooses - not three - were found dangling from the tree. Beyond being offensive to blacks, the nooses were cut down because black and white students "were playing with them, pulling on them, jump-swinging from them, and putting their heads through them," according to a black teacher who witnessed the scene.
-There was no connection between the September noose incident and December attack, according to Donald Washington, an attorney for the U.S. Justice Department in western Louisiana, who investigated claims that these events might be race-related hate crimes.
-The three youths accused of hanging the nooses were not suspended for just three days - they were isolated at an alternative school for about a month, and then given an in-school suspension for two weeks.
-The six-member jury that convicted Bell was, indeed, all white. However, only one in 10 people in LaSalle Parish is African American, and though black residents were selected randomly by computer and summoned for jury selection, none showed up.
Schmed
09-22-2007, 10:09 PM
Some facts about the case and not made up jungle bunny hysteria.
It's a long ass article. I only posted the part dealing with the chronology of events.
http://my.earthlink.net/article/nat?guid=20070922/46f49340_3421_1334520070922345513498
Clearly, something bad occurred in Jena, population 2,971, an old sawmill town in LaSalle Parish that, once upon a time, was Ku Klux Klan country. And, as most white and black residents readily agree, there is no good reason for embracing what unfolded here.
But what happened, exactly?
The story goes that a year ago, a black student asked at an assembly if he could sit in the shade of a live oak, which, the story goes, was labeled "the white tree" because only white students hung out there. The next day, three nooses dangled from the oak - code for "KKK" - the handiwork of three white students, who were suspended for just three days.
Much of that is disputed. What happened next is not: Two months later, an arsonist torched a wing of Jena High School. (The case remains unsolved.)
Two fights between blacks and whites roiled the town that weekend, culminating in a school-yard brawl on Dec. 4 that led the district attorney to charge the Jena Six with attempted murder. The lethal weapon he cited to justify the charge: the boys' sneakers.
In July, the first to be tried, Mychal Bell, was convicted after two hours of deliberations by an all-white jury on reduced charges of aggravated battery and conspiracy to commit it.
(It was widely reported that Bell, now 17, was an honor student with no prior criminal record. Although he had a high grade-point average, he was, in fact, on probation for at least two counts of battery and a count of criminal damage to property. In any event, his conviction was overturned because an appeals court ruled he should not have been tried as an adult.)
There is, however, a more nuanced rendition of events - one that can be found in court testimony, in interviews with teachers, officials and students at Jena High, and in public statements from a U.S. attorney who reviewed the case for possible federal intervention.
Consider:
-The so-called "white tree" at Jena High, often reported to be the domain of only white students, was nothing of the sort, according to teachers and school administrators; students of all races, they say, congregated under it at one time or another.
-Two nooses - not three - were found dangling from the tree. Beyond being offensive to blacks, the nooses were cut down because black and white students "were playing with them, pulling on them, jump-swinging from them, and putting their heads through them," according to a black teacher who witnessed the scene.
-There was no connection between the September noose incident and December attack, according to Donald Washington, an attorney for the U.S. Justice Department in western Louisiana, who investigated claims that these events might be race-related hate crimes.
-The three youths accused of hanging the nooses were not suspended for just three days - they were isolated at an alternative school for about a month, and then given an in-school suspension for two weeks.
-The six-member jury that convicted Bell was, indeed, all white. However, only one in 10 people in LaSalle Parish is African American, and though black residents were selected randomly by computer and summoned for jury selection, none showed up.
Yes, but since the algorithm for the computer program was developed by a white C++ programmer, racist logic was coded into the program, therefore making this conclusion null and void (and racist).
HummerTuesdays
09-23-2007, 10:12 AM
Wes, thank you for that article. It's what I've been looking for. And late Friday at work I did find an article on TheTownTalk.com that was very clear about the procedure for the trial, as well as what Bell had been convicted of. Of course, I got the link from another story which I'm trying to find. Edit: here is the article: http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070825/NEWS01/708250317/1002
Zona992006
09-23-2007, 11:11 AM
http://www.freewebtown.com/fatmatt/pictures/ebaumprcam.jpg
and I say:
"Some facts about the case and not made up jungle bunny hysteria."
weakside
09-23-2007, 11:19 AM
I've been reading up on this, and the entire fucking town is wrong. A bunch of fucking racists, both the blacks and the whites. The whole town should just be firebombed and then forgotten.
This is closer to the truth than what the liberal and conservative media is reporting.
Reports are starting to come out that both sides have been going at each other in this town for years. This incident simply gained the national spotlight. Just another good reason not to live in the South.
Sidekick Dave
09-23-2007, 11:26 AM
"Last fall in Jena, Louisiana, the day after two Black high school students sat beneath the “white tree” on their campus, nooses were hung from the tree. When the superintendent dismissed the nooses as a “prank,” more Black students sat under the tree in protest. The District Attorney then came to the school accompanied by the town’s police and demanded that the students end their protest, telling them, “I can be your best friend or your worst enemy… I can take away your lives with a stroke of my pen.”
A series of white-on-black incidents of violence followed, and the DA did nothing. But when a white student was beaten up in a schoolyard fight, the DA responded by charging six black students with attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder."
"It’s a story that reads like one from the Jim Crow era, when judges, lawyers and all-white juries used the justice system to keep blacks in “their place.” But it’s happening today. The families of these young men are fighting back, but the story has gotten minimal press. Together, we can make sure their story is told and that the Governor of Louisiana intervenes and provides justice for the Jena 6."
weakside
09-23-2007, 11:46 AM
-The so-called "white tree" at Jena High, often reported to be the domain of only white students, was nothing of the sort, according to teachers and school administrators; students of all races, they say, congregated under it at one time or another.
I'm glad this article was posted, as I always believe it is better to make decisions and judgements based on facts rather than hysteria and prejudicial views.
But I had to laugh at that part of the article. What exactly did they expect school administrators and teachers to say? "Oh, that's the White Tree where only White kids are allowed to hang out. Yeah, we have known about that tree for years..." Of course they are going to say their school is open to every race.
Now ask the students what the tree represented and I'll bet each race would tell you that was the tree where only the White kids were allowed to hang out. And I’m not just blaming the Whites, I'm sure Blacks had their area too where if some White kid tried to hang out he would get his ass beat into the ground.
The conservative and liberal media is a joke, but some things they actually got right. This town was fucked-up long before this incident hit the national media.
(Side note: the tree was apparently cut down. Shocker.)
stillbornstew
09-23-2007, 12:55 PM
i like tuhr-tuls
(Side note: the tree was apparently cut down. Shocker.)
*exasperated* Well now, you can't expect white kids to hang out underneath it after it's been tainted by *******, can you?
Fr. Dougal
09-23-2007, 04:39 PM
Fuck 'em. And fuck the fat, old welfare ape at the Ranger game down by the Rangers penalty box who wouldn't let us stand there in between periods to talk to a friend working the game. Fuck her, and fuck the Jena six. lol
FAZ8218
09-23-2007, 04:40 PM
Dougal you're such a liberal man.
MrBogey
09-23-2007, 04:55 PM
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Capt.Caveman
09-23-2007, 05:33 PM
"Last fall in Jena, Louisiana, the day after two Black high school students sat beneath the “white tree” on their campus, nooses were hung from the tree. When the superintendent dismissed the nooses as a “prank,” more Black students sat under the tree in protest. The District Attorney then came to the school accompanied by the town’s police and demanded that the students end their protest, telling them, “I can be your best friend or your worst enemy… I can take away your lives with a stroke of my pen.”
A series of white-on-black incidents of violence followed, and the DA did nothing. But when a white student was beaten up in a schoolyard fight, the DA responded by charging six black students with attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder."
"It’s a story that reads like one from the Jim Crow era, when judge