N.Y. Drops Citizenship Proof For Driver's Licenses

[wes mantooth]

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_264172034.html

N.Y. Drops Citizenship Proof For Driver's Licenses

(CBS) NEW YORK They were celebrating outside the governor's office Friday as Elliot Spitzer handed a landmark victory to a half-million illegal immigrants.

The state will no longer require proof of citizenship for driver's licenses.

"We're changing our policy with respect to getting more people out of shadows and into the system so people don't hide they're here," Spitzer said.

He said the current restrictions on non-citizens have filled the roads with unlicensed drivers five times more likely to get into accidents.

But he also called it a matter of justice.

"As long as I'm governor we won't pretend they don't exist, cut them off from society," Spitzer said.

But the action triggered a bitter response from some 9/11 family members, who said the governor would be providing identification for potential terrorists.

And a Brooklyn state senator says he'll try to overturn the decision.

"This governor has chosen to give the keys to the city, the keys to the state to terrorism," Golden said.

As for the public, it's clear that people have strong feelings on both sides of the issue.

"I don’t think if you're here illegally you should have the same privileges people who are here legally do," office manager Cliff Hoffman said.

Added legal word processor Bill Slater: "I think illegal people are getting a free ride. I don't think it's fair to other hard-working citizens who do work hard."

Planning consultant John Madden said the move is also a pre-emptive strike against another type of potentially hazardous driver.

"The problem is they're gonna drive anyway," Madden said. "You might as well make them legal drivers with insurance."

The new rules will start to kick in at the end of the year, unless someone finds a way to put a halt to them.

Under the new policy, the Department of Motor Vehicles will accept foreign passports and birth certificates from immigrants as proof of identification. They will no longer need to provide a Social Security card.

[MJMANDALAY]

This is Bullshit. A State Issued Document like a licence opens all kinds of doors for illegals.


"The problem is they're gonna drive anyway," Madden said. "You might as well make them legal drivers with insurance."
What an asshole statement to make. Well they are gonna do it you may as well let them, thats a fuckin copout.

[Schmed]

See how they play with words

non-citizens ????? Why do they lump Illegal Immigrants in with LEGAL immigrants and visa holders.

Permanent residents and people with visas, were already allowed to obtain drivers licenses.

Murderers are going to kill you anyway, so just give them a gun, fucking assholes.

[Capt.Caveman]

fuckin liberals!!!what do u expect

[Turfmower]

Look at all the Pa plates here in Jersey since they put in the 6 point Id system here. They need to put in the NJ id system nation wide.

[Capt.Caveman]

Look at all the Pa plates here in Jersey since they put in the 6 point Id system here. They need to put in the NJ id system nation wide.

I still hate the dmv. RACIAL PROIFILE!!!!!!

[Turfmower]

As much as I like to say I hate the dmv they have really gotten their act together. It only took 10 minutes to get my license renewed to the new digitized license for them to verify all my id and too take the photo and print the license. All the other shit you can do on line now no need to go there anymore. Maybe because all the illegals are in Pa now.

[Fruit Monkey]

herez a little fact about getting a lizenze in ny
you dont need to be able to read or write, correct you dont need to be able to read a fucking ztreet zign to drive

wow but i have a commercial lzc. and need to pay 500-800 ever 6 yearz in order for a background check? becuaze all bomberz go and get a haz mat endorzement before they go blow up a building.

ugg thiz pizzez me off!

[Creampier]

That's fucked up!! They should take those nooses down in Jena and string these shitdicks up with them!

[Sam_Adams]

Hopefully a drunk illegal alien will fucking crash their vehicle into the governor's car while he's being escorted around NYC by his security.

[weeniewawa]

As much as I like to say I hate the dmv they have really gotten their act together. It only took 10 minutes to get my license renewed to the new digitized license for them to verify all my id and too take the photo and print the license. All the other shit you can do on line now no need to go there anymore. Maybe because all the illegals are in Pa now.

geez, next they will give you a little chip in your arm that all you have to do is wave in front of a scanner and all your info will be on the screen, or they scan you from the toll booth and bust you for eating wrong...like 1984 mmmaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[B54]

herez a little fact about getting a lizenze in ny
you dont need to be able to read or write, correct you dont need to be able to read a fucking ztreet zign to drive

wow but i have a commercial lzc. and need to pay 500-800 ever 6 yearz in order for a background check? becuaze all bomberz go and get a haz mat endorzement before they go blow up a building.

ugg thiz pizzez me off!

Explains you pretty well.

[Turfmower]

geez, next they will give you a little chip in your arm that all you have to do is wave in front of a scanner and all your info will be on the screen, or they scan you from the toll booth and bust you for eating wrong...like 1984 mmmaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnn

What the fuck are you talking about with a chip. You show them your shit they verify it all with the fucking computer. Every thing in on computers now it not the 1950s where Helen has to look shit up in a filling cabinet, But I guess you dont care about people getting fake licenses.

[Treat_Yourself]

He said the current restrictions on non-citizens have filled the roads with unlicensed drivers five times more likely to get into accidents.

That's just retarded. The license doesn't magically make the illegals better drivers and those who fail the test will drive anyway without a license. It's a stupid fake solution that does nothing but give illegals the opportunity to get a state-issued ID card with which they can take advantage of more opportunities they're not entitled to.

[BlackNinja]

one of my biggest concerns about living here in miami, is getting hit by an illegal who has no insurance. the driving down here is fucking wreckless

[wes mantooth]

the driving down here is fucking wreckless


sig pic? anyone?

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[HummerTuesdays]

This is Bullshit. A State Issued Document like a licence opens all kinds of doors for illegals.



What an asshole statement to make. Well they are gonna do it you may as well let them, thats a fuckin copout.

And I bet they won't make them learn English, either. They'll be able to take the written test in any language they want. Fucking wonderful. I guess they didn't think about the cop that only speaks English, and what kind of fucked up traffic stop it's going to be when Juan Pablo Paco Rodriguez Dominguez doesn't understand, "license, insurance, and registration, please."

[Kris_LTRMa]

I love this line from yesterday's Newsday :
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/state/ny-liimmi0922,0,5164685.story

For Pedro, 43, an undocumented immigrant from Greenlawn who uses a bicycle to get around, having a driver's license would make it easier to get to work, and to find better-paying work.

"Having a driver's license is a necessity," Pedro said, "not a luxury."

Isn't it illegal to hire an illegal immigrant?

[PCLoadLetter]

That's just retarded. The license doesn't magically make the illegals better drivers and those who fail the test will drive anyway without a license.
Beat me to it... That justification is one of the stupidest things I have ever read... Are the illegals going to suddenly be less than five times as likely to have accidents now that they have a license?

The only justification I can see is if NY is a state where they'll pull your license if you don't prove that you have insurance. However, for people that are driving without a license already, why would they care if they LOSE that license? Or better still, why would they get a license in the first place if they have to pony up all the cash (licensing, insurance, etc.) that they haven't bothered to pony up already?