UFC 76: Knockout

[burky79]

Chuck Liddell (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=192) Vs. Keith Jardine (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=2638)
Mauricio Rua (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=5707) Vs. Forrest Griffin (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=3526)
Thiago Tavares (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=4647) Vs. Tyson Griffin (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=11689)
Kazuhiro Nakamura (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=6943) Vs. Ryoto Machida (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=7513)
Jon Fitch (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=4865) Vs. Diego Sanchez (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=4824)
Wilson Gouveia (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=3070) Vs. Jason Lambert (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=495)
Michihiro Omigawa (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=13005) Vs. Matt Wiman (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=12236)



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UFC 76 Preview

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Sherdog's event page (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=8566)

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Anyone gotta line on where to watch it online live?
i.e. - Paltalk or similar.

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[mik3]

C'mon Jardine, be the "Dean of Mean" tonight. I'm excited for the Fitch/Sanchez fight.

And Shogun hopefully shows why a ton of people call him the best 205 in the sport.

[mik3]

I voted for Shogun, 'cause I mark out hard for him.

Fitch/Sanchez will be interesting. Fitch has totally grown on me but I also grew to like Sanchez mainly based on the fact I think Koscheck is a douche bag.

[burky79]

yup Shogun and Nightmare are the 2 i think are really promising.

[Steam]

I think Koscheck is a douche bag.

Agree with you there 100%. My favorite Koscheck fight was when he was dominating Fickett who then proceeded to choke him out of nowhere. Koscheck being awoken via smelling salts afterward was pure gold.

[mik3]

It's hard to not like a guy with a beard as sweet as Fitch's also.

[seeinred]

I can't wait to see Rua-Griffin tonight.

[mendozathejew]

anyone have a win amp link for the ppv?

[Capt.Caveman]

Hey any NJ people know of anywhere they televise the fight? My buddy can't get it tonite and I can't remember my ppv block code!!!!! i'n off x 117 gsp. the only place I know of is hooters on 22 but i really don't feel like driving that far

[mik3]

Hey any NJ people know of anywhere they televise the fight? My buddy can't get it tonite and I can't remember my ppv block code!!!!! i'n off x 117 gsp. the only place I know of is hooters on 22 but i really don't feel like driving that far

I think the office might, try calling over there. Or that sorta sports bar place in union beach.

[Capt.Caveman]

I think the office might, try calling over there. Or that sorta sports bar place in union beach.

tanx I'll call

[mendozathejew]

shogun cant get sloppy with the boxing. thats the only thing Im worried about

[Capt.Caveman]

I have a feeling about forrest tonite. coming off a loss. the guys a hard worker. and a lot of sho guns aresenal is out now, soccer kicks, downed knees. I like both guys But i'd like to see forrest pull this one out

[mendozathejew]

Im curious if shogun will still stomp to the body

the guy has a great overall game. but like alot of muay thai fighters the boxing gets sloppy at times. He loses stomps and kicks to the head of a downed opponent, but he gains use of the elbows, which even in pride he was great at when dropping them to the body.

[mik3]

Forrest is way too cocky in the preview.

[GDRC]

Forrest is way too cocky in the preview.

You have to be if no one gives you a real chance to win.

[Capt.Caveman]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

it's starting

[GDRC]

Liddell vs Wandy in December if Chuck wins tonight.

[mik3]

I love the Goldberg/Rogan Liddell propaganda machine.

[Palerider4146]

caveman, I just sent you a message on myspace, but prime time sports bar in south amboy on 9 south is showing the ppv for a 6 dollar cover, if my ex gets home on time to watch my kid, I may get out there

[burky79]

yeehoooo here we go...

i love having a UFC event every month and a fight nights and TUF... good time for MMA.


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THERE WILL BE SPOILERS FROM THIS POST ON.

YOU ARE WARNED!!!

[Capt.Caveman]

griffin rd 1

[burky79]

whata great first round.

back and forth

tyson should have it... more top control and strikes

[mik3]

That was a sick flying knee.

[mik3]

I think Griffin's going to get caught trying to strike on top and leave an arm in.

[Capt.Caveman]

got to give it to tavarez

[mik3]

That was a sick round, Griffin's showing a lot against a BJJ black belt.

[burky79]

wow, what a great round... i think thats Tavares' round, but damn he shouldda finished!

that flying knee was all kinds of sweet!



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THERE WILL BE SPOILERS FROM HERE OUT.

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[burky79]

what a spin out!!!!!!!

[mik3]

If this isn't fight of the night then this is going to be an amazing PPV.

[burky79]

you're right mik3... this is a highlight reel for groppling, defense and offense... just an amazing technical fight!

[GDRC]

Tavares 29-28

[mik3]

If Tavares got round two then he wins the fight. If not then it's Griffin.

[Capt.Caveman]

3rd rd to close to call. i'll give it to griffin

[sniper]

I never do this until all the fights are over, but that was the best, most technical fight i've ever seen, AMAZING!

[burky79]

I never do this until all the fights are over, but that was the best, most technical fight i've ever seen, AMAZING!

hey, when ya see it, ya know it...

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goin to the judges...

i think Tavares should have pulled it out, but its gotta be split, either way.

I have a feeling Tyson won though.

[Capt.Caveman]

good fight. griffin deserved it. tavares is a tough guy

[GDRC]

Judges give it to Griffin

[mik3]

Who scored it 30-27? wow

[burky79]

Tyson Griffin winner by Unanimous...

okay.. but shouldnt have been unanimous.

[GDRC]

Who scored it 30-27? wow

I was thinking the same thing.

[mik3]

Say Liddell loses or gets hurt, who do they put Wandy up against?

[Capt.Caveman]

another great fight

[GDRC]

I think Houston Alexander vs Wandy would be a good fight if Liddell loses.

[Capt.Caveman]

Who scored it 30-27? wow

x3

[mik3]

I think that was one of Chris Farley's brothers next to Spade.

And I think this is going to be another great fight. I honestly think Liddell/Jardine will be the least exciting fight of the night.

[mik3]

Is there a decent PRIDE 205 or Heavyweight that hasn't beaten Randleman?

[Capt.Caveman]

i just think jardine lidell will be over quick

[mik3]

Japanese version of the Pete Rose haircut.

[burky79]

I think that was one of Chris Farley's brothers next to Spade.

And I think this is going to be another great fight. I honestly think Liddell/Jardine will be the least exciting fight of the night.

was it really...? i need to see that shot again, i missed it.

i agree bout Liddell/Jardine.

KO first round on sloppy defense for one or the other.

[burky79]

Japanese version of the Pete Rose haircut.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/f/fb/Akio_Otsuka.jpg + http://www.aolcdn.com/aolpolltool/pete-rose-jockey = http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/fightfinder/Pictures/Nakamura.JPG

:)

[mik3]

PRIDE guys have to feel like kids with a new toy in the UFC when they can just elbow someone up tight like that.

[Capt.Caveman]

machida rd 1

[mik3]

Nakamura's had himself in decent position twice and just straight up slipped.

[burky79]

Machida round 1

[Capt.Caveman]

his hair keeps making me giggle

[mik3]

Wow, Goldberg saying "Yeah maaaan" just put white people back 20 years.

And does Nakamura have grease on his feet?

[burky79]

full mount... not long


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edit.... welll i take that back.

[Capt.Caveman]

machida 2-0

[mik3]

Gotta love when both corners don't speak english. I feel like I'm working in Jersey City again.

[Captain_Spaulding]

Anyone have a link to watch the ppv on an online stream.

[burky79]

Machida up 2

[Capt.Caveman]

machida has his hands real low

[burky79]

Gotta love when both corners don't speak english.
hahahahah... thats unusual for at least one not being english speaking.

:clap::haha7:

[mik3]

Nakamura started off well this round, when he got swept he lost all the momentum.

[mik3]

Well, Nakamura isn't terrible, and he has good submission defense.

Like was said though, he'd probably be a good 185.

[burky79]

better be 30-27 accross the board for Machida.

that was a lot less technical and exciting than the first fight...

[mendozathejew]

nakamura is never gona win a big one.

hes tough and crafty. has his moments but never seem to pull it off

[burky79]

30-27 accross the board for Machida.

ho hum

[Capt.Caveman]

machida dominated

[mendozathejew]

that was a lot less technical and exciting than the first fight...

lyoto is the bernard hopkins of mma. he makes it ugly cause his defense and ring generalship dictates everything

[Capt.Caveman]

great fight. leaning toward sanchez

[burky79]

i want nightmare... i have always liked his style and demeaner(sp?)

[mik3]

Diego is a good fighter and all, but he sounds like such a gay.

I like Fitch's "I fight like a thief" analogy.

[mendozathejew]

Diego is a good fighter and all, but he sounds like such a gay.

have you seen the old photos of diego and his friends taking photos with their shirts off together? I posted them in the mma thread a while back

[mik3]

No shock that Fitch brought Koshcheck out with him.

[burky79]

k, i understand his talking is ghey, but i wouldnt ever dare say that to him.

i love the doods explosiveness, from a bad position and his focused shots.

[Capt.Caveman]

sanchez is trying to look so tough

[mendozathejew]

theres a bunch of fighters that have been rumored to be gay like dlh and diego. ive heard vegas boxing reporters joke about mayweather having that "down low" lifestyle some blacks have

[mendozathejew]

Bruce Buffer should be shot.

he adds alteast 3 syllables to every fucking word. i hate him

[mik3]

Great takedown by Fitch after the cradle.

[Capt.Caveman]

fitch rd 1

[burky79]

ohhhh, i wanted to see that triangle sunk in...

i dunno, diego has been more active, even though fitch has been on top more than half the round.

hmmm

i say judges give Fitch first round

[mendozathejew]

round 1 fitch

[burky79]

Fitch has great base and balance for momentum control

[mik3]

Wow, I thought fitch was about to toss him when he had his legs.

[Capt.Caveman]

fitch 2-0

[burky79]

Fitch 2 up

[mik3]

The thumbs up was great.

[burky79]

wow... that was tight and Fitch just fought through it...

[mik3]

Fitch looks like he wants to slam him bad.

[burky79]

Fitch cant finish shit, from the looks of it. but damn the dude is tough.

[Capt.Caveman]

fitch 30-27

[mik3]

Fitch really hasn't had a good shot to finish it, which is a compliment to Diego.

And wow, Fitch getting out of that triangle.

[burky79]

Fitch is a F-in animal!!!

Fitch ---

[mik3]

Fitch seemed to fight that fight with no fear. Like he felt no matter what Diego wasn't going to submit him so just stick to what he was doing.

[mendozathejew]

all fitch. nice sub attempts from sanchez but they were just a distraction from fitch's body shots and elbows

[burky79]

30-27 29-28 29-28
just guessin

[Capt.Caveman]

u gotta be shittin me. how can someone give 2 rds to sanchez. maybe 1 but 2 c'mon

[mik3]

I wonder if that's the same guy that went 30-27 Griffin in the first fight.

[burky79]

I am a F-in pshycic!!!

damn,... I need to go to bodog and drop some green

[mendozathejew]

I saw how long the scores took and I feared shannanigans.

diego is a tough little savage but he was dominated. they put him up against the two toughest opponents for him. fitch and kos are just too talented wrestlers for him.

[Capt.Caveman]

is there gonna be a ko/sub tonite?

[burky79]

give it up for both...

Fitch was an animal...

but he couldnt finish anything he was givin.

Diego didnt make a good enough effort to beat up on Fitch, soften him up before submitting.

good fight.

Fitch all the way and hope the next fight for both Fitch and diego are better matched.

[Capt.Caveman]

i don't agree with booing sanchez. the guy fought his ass off. fitch is a tough fuck. so far i'm 2-1 tonite. griffin and liddell need to win

[mik3]

Fitch will probably fight the Hughes/Serra loser next.

[burky79]

This is the one I have been waiting for...

I can't wait to see this fight!

[Capt.Caveman]

def the one i wanted to see most

[burky79]

i don't agree with booing sanchez.(neither do i... but drunk fans are not thinking in the moment :) ) the guy fought his ass off. fitch is a tough fuck. so far i'm 2-1 tonite. griffin and liddell need to win

cmon, comeone give me credit!!!

i guessed the exact scores of the last fight.

[Capt.Caveman]

cmon, comeone give me credit!!!

i guessed the exact scores of the last fight.

i know. good job. i'm just sayin i'm 2-1i don't wanna be the guy who says i picked all the winners blah blah blha

[mik3]

Too bad for the usual whole UFC-wide touching of gloves before rounds.

I'd love a PRIDE-style running flying knee to start this fight.

[mik3]

I didn't know Forrest trained with Couture, now I know why Randy was speaking overly-high of him.

[burky79]

heeeerrrrrreeee we go.

damn i hope im not building this up too much.

thx 4 the credit dascaveman ;)

i'll say you call em all but one, eh... that okay?

[mik3]

How many times is Joe going to call Shogun Ninja?

[Capt.Caveman]

great fuckin round. forest rd 1

[burky79]

what a first round!!!

Forrest looks soooo much more mature on the ground and positioning.

[mendozathejew]

tough round to score shogun did more damage I think but hes not going to get any benefits of doubt

[mik3]

Forrest did a good job of not getting hurt, but not much else. He'll probably get the round though.

[burky79]

Bring it on!

[mik3]

Forrest's wrist control is what's saving him 'cause Shogun likes to just tee off on top.

[mik3]

Both of them look spent.

[burky79]

wtf?... Rua is looking very very weak?

[burky79]

Forrest's wrist control is what's saving him 'cause Shogun likes to just tee off on top.

^^^ QFMFT!

[mendozathejew]

embarrassing conditioning cardio for shogun. embarrassing

[Capt.Caveman]

wow forrest 2-0

[mik3]

This is all about scoring. Shogun did way more damage in both rounds but Griffin did a lot of nothing but nothing in control at the end of both rounds.

[burky79]

Forrest has it 2 up

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Forrest is like a mad chimpanse or something... god i love his warrior sprirt

[mik3]

That's the thing, when Griffin has control he's not doing anything.

[mendozathejew]

gassed after 1 minute in round 2. awful

[Capt.Caveman]

wwwwwwwwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[GDRC]

Holy Shit

[Capt.Caveman]

:action-smpredicted it!!!!!

[mik3]

Wow, that was terrible. The best fighter in the world just got beat by a guy who got housed by Tito Ortiz.

[burky79]

Forest by SUBMISSION!!!!!!

AHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!!
WOOHOOO!

[krap]

Good Job Griffin!!!!!!!!!

[mendozathejew]

here it comes pride overrated


but still rampage is now the undisputed #1 light heavyweight

[Capt.Caveman]

Wow, that was terrible. The best fighter in the world just got beat by a guy who got housed by Tito Ortiz.

what!!!!!! he got hosed in that fight! tito won the 1st rd that was it.

[mik3]

Maybe Shogun should follow Wandy's lead and bounce CB. They trained him horribly for this fight.

[Capt.Caveman]

here it comes pride overrated


but still rampage is now the undisputed #1 light heavyweight

people that don't know fighting will, but just point and laugh at them. Forrest out worked him. sho gun was out of shape

[GDRC]

Safe to say Shogun underestimated Forrest.

[mik3]

There should be a rematch here, one where shogun actually does any kind of cardio.

He was more outlasted than beaten.

[mendozathejew]

my friend said in round 2 shogun looks like he was given a date **** drug

thats what griffen brings you- little room for error

[mendozathejew]

granted shogun just got married, and thats probably a reason that he had no gas tank, but still its not excuse at this level. I dont think he underestimated forrest. he blew it

UFC guys really like to ignore that rampage and silva are the champs at 205 and 185. COuture is great but he just said all the pride guys didnt do well.

[mik3]

If Liddell gets knocked out then the night won't be a total loss.

[burky79]

There should be a rematch here, one where shogun actually does any kind of cardio.

He was more outlasted than beaten.


i dunno about outlasted... check out the knots and cuts on his head tomorrow and say he wasnt beaten... Forest hits with bricks man.

he def underestimated the striking power of Forest and the strong hads/grip that allowed him to not get beat on the ground by Rua

[Capt.Caveman]

granted shogun just got married, and thats probably a reason that he had no gas tank, but still its not excuse at this level. I dont think he underestimated forrest. he blew it

UFC guys really like to ignore that rampage and silva are the champs at 205 and 185. COuture is great but he just said all the pride guys didnt do well.

you gotta admit the recent trends speak for themselves. it is a totally different ballgame in a cage. rampage and silva trained for it. cro cop didn't rua and henderson i don't know

[mik3]

Yeah, he definitely looked past a fighter he probably should have stopped in the first two rounds. That usually makes for a fun rematch. Like Lennox Lewis/Hasim Rahman

[mik3]

you gotta admit the recent trends speak for themselves. it is a totally different ballgame in a cage. rampage and silva trained for it. cro cop didn't rua and henderson i don't know
Henderson probably would beat every 185 not named Anderson Silva, and that'd be a good fight itself.

[burky79]

here wees go...

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I tell ya after those first few fights... this is gonna suck.

i dont even like saying that till after i see it, but this wont rank among the top 3 fights tonight, unless there is some wild unseen happening

[GDRC]

Henderson has fought and won in the cage before.

[Gotti420]

here it comes pride overrated


but still rampage is now the undisputed #1 light heavyweight

its not that PRIDE was overrated, its that the UFC tests for roids

[GDRC]

Chuck by first round KO.

[mendozathejew]

you gotta admit the recent trends speak for themselves. it is a totally different ballgame in a cage. rampage and silva trained for it. cro cop didn't rua and henderson i don't know

the cage made a huge difference for cro cop. he doesnt adjust well though. shogun adjusted fine. but he gassed in round 2. early in round two. he could barely keep his hands up with 9 minutes left in the fight.

thats a joke. forrest deserved the win cause he trained for it. he does what he does time in time out. hes not that talented, but hes consistent and doesnt leave room for error.

[burky79]

I am calling a Chuck win. dunno why, just a gut feeling.

KO round 1 in the first 2 minutes.

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[mik3]

Notice how everyone that loses is always re-focused.

I want to hear someone once say, "_____ is preparing for this fight the same exact way he did for the fight he lost."

[mendozathejew]

its not that PRIDE was overrated, its that the UFC tests for roids

thats what I think happened to Cro Cop. but youd be a fool if you think UFC fighters arent roiding either. shogun never had a muscular build so I dont think thats the issue here

getting married a few months ago and not training well enough is. but it doesnt matter. forrest deserved to win

[burky79]

interesting though there mik3...

[Capt.Caveman]

DON"T BLINK!!!!!!e

[mik3]

I guess in hindsight you have to think there'd be an adjustment period for shogun. Not because of a cage, or because of drug testing, but because he can't just jump over extended legs and stomp a guy in the face.

[burky79]

anyone else having video latency in the last miute or two?

mine jittered and stopped for about 10 seconds

[Capt.Caveman]

kiethfrom boston baaaaaawaaaaaaaabaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaa

[mik3]

These shots by Jardine landing show just how perfect that shot by Rampage was.

[GDRC]

10-9 Jardine imo.

[Capt.Caveman]

liddell rd 1, but jardine looked good

[mik3]

Those kicks won Jardine the round.

[burky79]

hmmm... Jardine is just delaying the inevitable.

nice finger poke dick... :)

[mendozathejew]

jardine takes round 1, more effective striking

but hes gona get caught

[GDRC]

Jardine catches Chuck, but Chuck recovers.

[burky79]

this is a different KJ than the first round

[mik3]

Dana White will cry himself to sleep if Chuck loses.

[burky79]

liddelll with the shonie carte backfist... hahhaa

[GDRC]

10-9 Jardine.

[Capt.Caveman]

jardine gets that one 1-1. chuck finished strong though

[mik3]

lol@chuck going to the wrong corner.

2-0 Jardine.

If he doesn't get knocked out he wins.

[mendozathejew]

Ive got it 2 - 0 for jardine but he is tiring

[burky79]

KJ is scoring better, but damn Chuck is making KJ hurt... you can tell.

but those leg kicks are gonna stop Chucks full KO power

[GDRC]

Chuck has to knock him out here to win imo.

[mik3]

Chuck's striking has been really wild, especially in the second. Nothing really landing, not to hurt a guy like Jardine anyway.

[mik3]

Chuck's starting to think about the kicks.

[mik3]

Lyoto Jardine.

[burky79]

Jardine is gonna win this at the judges table... unless there is a big big hit from Chuck

[GDRC]

30-27 Jardine actually.

[Capt.Caveman]

jardine should win

[mik3]

I could see at least one judge going 30-27

[burky79]

Jardine 30-27 in all three, gotta be.

[mik3]

Couture called that perfectly with Jardine using the kicks.

[Capt.Caveman]

split

[Capt.Caveman]

jardine wins

[GDRC]

Jardine wins by split decision. Should have been unanimous.

[burky79]

KJ in a split.

he deserved it.

Lidell didnt know what to do after the first round.

[mik3]

Does maybe Jardine fight Wandy?

[Capt.Caveman]

liddell didn't look good at all

[mendozathejew]

wow shogun and liddell go down

wacky night.


8 months ago, they were with no question the top two light heavyweights in the world. and they both lost tonight. Im really surprised that jardine dominated a 3 round fight. a flash ko I could have easily believed but not a 3 round domination

[mik3]

liddell didn't look good at all
The kicks took all his power away. And he was doing a lot of wild swinging.

[burky79]

think theyre gonna show any undercards?

[GDRC]

It ended right at one so no.

[burky79]

guess not.

later all, been fun

[mendozathejew]

Jardine wins by split decision. Should have been unanimous.

I thought was 3 rounds to 0. round 1 was close but in a complete stand up match you had ring generalship vs harder punches. but I thought the leg kicks from jardine did more damage in the first round than the punches from liddell, and I think that showed over the next two rounds

[mendozathejew]

The kicks took all his power away. And he was doing a lot of wild swinging.

liddell? no way:action-sm


in the past 4 years he faced two good strikers- rampage and jardine and went 0-3.

[GDRC]

I think it should be either Forrest or Alexander against Wandy in December.

[mendozathejew]

think theyre gonna show any undercards?

rogan said they are online. ufcs website

[seeinred]

Forrest > all. He smoked Rua tonight.

[mik3]

liddell? no way:action-sm


in the past 4 years he faced two good strikers- rampage and jardine and went 0-3.
Pretty much sums it up. Put him against ground guys or middle of the road guys and he'll put them on their back.

He's not a smart fighter anymore. He didn't do anything to avoid the kicks, just kept coming at him. The reason he looked good in the first round is due to letting Jardine come to him.

It's like his ego took over in the second and third, especially after he got dropped.

[mik3]

Alexander vs Wandy would be crazy. Alexander has to get a little more recognition after tonight because of the way he beat Jardine.

[mendozathejew]

I think it should be either Forrest or Alexander against Wandy in December.

alexander vs wandy would be sick. but I think wandy's clinch is too damn dangerous and alexander likes the clinch too much. but he could turn wandys lights out


I wonder how many UFC fans know that Wandy kneed Rampage into a lifeless lump twice

[GDRC]

alexander vs wandy would be sick. but I think wandy's clinch is too damn dangerous and alexander likes the clinch too much. but he could turn wandys lights out


I wonder how many UFC fans know that Wandy kneed Rampage into a lifeless lump twice

I think the UFC will play it up going into December to sell Wandy's fight.

[Gotti420]

I think it should be either Forrest or Alexander against Wandy in December.

My guess would be Forrest vs. Wandy for a title shot.

[mendozathejew]

I think the UFC will play it up going into December to sell Wandy's fight.

rampage got KOd brutally both times. even though he was dominating early in both fights

I think hes got a much better shot now. the cage helps. his training is far far superior now. he barely trained in japan, his camp barely provided anything. he was the red headed step child over there in Pride. or the nappy headed....nevermind

[dodisman]

Liddell...exposed and washed up....Jardine probably would have beaten him a few years ago regardless...Time for a new era of "non-hay maker" type heavies...not sorry to see him go.

[Capt.Caveman]

liddell should have taken him down and stole the fight with some gnp. but i guess his ego took over

[Capt.Caveman]

Liddell...exposed and washed up....Jardine probably would have beaten him a few years ago regardless...Time for a new era of "non-hay maker" type heavies...not sorry to see him go.

ok lets not get crazy now. so couture sucks tito sucks. the guys 37 yo. He got outstruck tonite. he lost, maybe it's time to retire but the guy is the greatest lhw champ ever. don't say he sucks cause he dropped 2 in a row. hey why they even talking about silva he dropped 2 in a row too

[mendozathejew]

liddell should have taken him down and stole the fight with some gnp. but i guess his ego took over

yeah Im surprised he didnt try that. youve probably got it right when you say ego didnt let him. Cause thats how he beat guys like Overeem, who was giving liddell the business until chuck used his wrestling to wear alistair out.

a ground and pound game is gona have to be his strategy in the future. its alot harder KO'ing decent strikers than the wrestlers he feasted on for 4 years

[GDRC]

what wandy did to Rampage
http://www.picsaway.com/uploads/wanderleiknee-7feaf47e12.gif

[GDRC]

http://belching.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/silvapunch.gif

[mendozathejew]

those two fights were damn near heart breaking for rampage. Im glad I didnt watch them live

[Nick Deaq]

Excellent fights! I was most upset by Chucks performance. Thanks to sniper for hosting!

[seeinred]

Anyone go 5-5 on picking fights?

I went 4-5, and I wish I would have thrown more significant money down, especially on the Griffin-Rua fight.

And just so you know I'm not bragging, I basically just picked the guy I wanted to win in each fight since I don't possess the knowledge yet to critically analyze fights before they happen.

[Capt.Caveman]

I went 3-2 lost fitch and jardine

[Capt.Caveman]

yeah Im surprised he didnt try that. youve probably got it right when you say ego didnt let him. Cause thats how he beat guys like Overeem, who was giving liddell the business until chuck used his wrestling to wear alistair out.

a ground and pound game is gona have to be his strategy in the future. its alot harder KO'ing decent strikers than the wrestlers he feasted on for 4 years

Chucks definately a better wrestler than Jardine. hey you were getting outstruck, shit happens. take it somewhere else

[Your_Moms_Box]

great PPV just for the griffin fight

[Cromwell]

what wandy did to Rampage
http://www.picsaway.com/uploads/wanderleiknee-7feaf47e12.gif

Thanks for these clips, "cunt"

Which goes to show that anyone can get beat at anytime.

"Its why they have the fights"

No one is invincible.

This PPV only reinforced that.

Especially if you "get caught" (be it a strike to the chin or temple, or a triangle choke).

Its what makes this the most exciting sport in the world.

[burky79]

Thanks for these clips, "cunt"(x2 !)

Which goes to show that anyone can get beat at anytime.

"Its why they have the fights"

No one is invincible.

This PPV only reinforced that.

Especially if you "get caught" (be it a strike to the chin or temple, or a triangle choke).

Its what makes this the most exciting sport in the world.

I upped the size on that why they have fights quote because i have to share this one, that i completely forgot to post about before...

gf and i at BW3's in reynoldsburg last weekend...

random dipshit sat next to my gf and i at the bar, while i was playing the Buzztime trivia and one of the questions was MMA related and i commented to my gf - "cant wait for next weekends (last nights UFC 76) fights."

anyway said dipshit proceeded to lay on me "That shit's all set up anyway".

You can imagine my surprise and I thought... ya know, he must be confused with WWF or something.

I say "No man, it's professional wrestling that's setup, with an outline to the matches, not the mixed martial arts."

he replied "They're both setup the same and the ultimate fighting thing is just the new pro-wrestling"

anyway, we went into a 5 minute debate of why its apples and oranges.

the point of this post (which i'm sure to take crap for) is that i wanted to know if anyone else here has had someone say that UFC is all a fix for the vegas odds (that was his final driving point, btw.)?

thats the first time i had ever heard of that thought... he thought it was all scripted and the fighters were fed info between rounds and all that bs.

anyway...

Anyone ever hear that UFC is all a setup?

[sniper]

Excellent fights! I was most upset by Chucks performance. Thanks to sniper for hosting!

well, hey look who's a wb member now! Welcome! :D

[sniper]

I upped the size on that why they have fights quote because i have to share this one, that i completely forgot to post about before...

gf and i at BW3's in reynoldsburg last weekend...

random dipshit sat next to my gf and i at the bar, while i was playing the Buzztime trivia and one of the questions was MMA related and i commented to my gf - "cant wait for next weekends (last nights UFC 76) fights."

anyway said dipshit proceeded to lay on me "That shit's all set up anyway".

You can imagine my surprise and I thought... ya know, he must be confused with WWF or something.

I say "No man, it's professional wrestling that's setup, with an outline to the matches, not the mixed martial arts."

he replied "They're both setup the same and the ultimate fighting thing is just the new pro-wrestling"

anyway, we went into a 5 minute debate of why its apples and oranges.

the point of this post (which i'm sure to take crap for) is that i wanted to know if anyone else here has had someone say that UFC is all a fix for the vegas odds (that was his final driving point, btw.)?

thats the first time i had ever heard of that thought... he thought it was all scripted and the fighters were fed info between rounds and all that bs.

anyway...

Anyone ever hear that UFC is all a setup?

Never heard that. I look back to the UFC's early days of no weight classes and i think that might have been a fix for odds type thing, but the way it was run back then also almost got it banned in the US.
But these days? No way it's fake. Just look at how might tighter knit the matches in the weight classes are. And do you really think Cro-cop could "act" his leg twisting that way when he got knocked out in UFC 70?
There's certain things you can do with live special effects, but some of the things that happen in UFC fights aren't it.
Something else worth mentioning, the portrayed realism in professional wrestling went away with the rise of the internet, and the quickness of getting information out. If there was some shenanigans going on like that we'd know about it through some disgruntled ex employee via the net, in addition spread that throughout the MMA community... The former Pride, Bodog, the new one on the Versus channel (the name escapes me extreme cage fighting?). Anyways, we'd know about it, it's hard to keep secrets these days.

Now i'm not saying there aren't "fight fixes", i mean their using boxing's judging system, so the fixing could still be there, but I don't think it's as prevalent as it is in boxing.