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Kris_LTRMa
09-23-2007, 11:55 AM
The same fucker who wanted to visit Ground Zero is making new threats
Iran's Ahmadinejad issues new threats against Israel, U.S.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/2007/09/23/2007-09-23_irans_ahmadinejad_issues_new_threats_aga.html
BY ADAM NICHOLS
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
On the eve of his trip to New York City, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stood before a banner blaring "Death to America," showed off his military might and declared his extremist regime will not bow to Western pressure.
"Those who think, that by using such decayed tools as psychological warfare and economic sanctions, they can stop the Iranian nation's progress are making a mistake," Ahmadinejad said yesterday outside of Tehran.
As the hatemonger spoke, a parade of anti-aircraft guns, missiles and military hardware moved before him. Three jet fighters flew overhead.
In a menacing move, Ahmadinejad's military henchmen said the medium-range missiles could reach Israel and U.S. bases in the Gulf.
Ahmadinejad, who is coming to New York to address the United Nations General Assembly, is expected to land at Kennedy Airport today.
The White House and U.S. military leaders have accused Iran of supplying training and weapons to terrorists who are attacking and killing U.S. troops in Iraq.
Large protests will greet Ahmadinejad - an accused terrorist, Holocaust denier and member of the Axis of Evil - when he speaks at Columbia University on Monday and when he addresses the UN Tuesday.
Ahmadinejad sparked outrage last week by requesting an official tour of Ground Zero. The proposed visit, which was promptly rejected by the NYPD, sickened victims' relatives and U.S. leaders.
Ahmadinejad said he was "amazed" by the negative reaction. But he has said he will abandon his plans to lay a wreath on the hallowed ground where nearly 3,000 people were killed by terrorists - an attack he has suggested was an inside job carried out by U.S. intelligence agents.
Columbia has refused to cancel Ahmadinejad's appearance at its School of International and Public Affairs. University President Lee Bollinger has vowed to challenge Ahmadinejad on his denial of the Holocaust, his alleged sponsorship of terrorism, his pursuit of nuclear weapons and the imprisonment of journalists and scholars in Iran.
But several political leaders and religious groups have slammed Columbia for inviting the madman to mouth off.
"Anyone who supports terror, pledges to destroy a sovereign nation [Israel], punishes by death anyone who 'insults' religion ... denies the Holocaust and thumbs his nose at the international community has no legitimate role to play at a university," Catholic League President Bill Donohue said.
The State Department has issued Ahmadinejad an extremely restrictive C-2 visa. It lasts 29 days and the holder must remain within a 25-mile radius of Columbus Circle.
The NYPD and a Secret Service detail will accompany Ahmadinejad during his visit - and protect him despite his repeated threats against the U.S.
At the military parade in Iran yesterday, the head of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, Mohammad Ali Jafari, said Western powers would regret it if they attacked the Islamic republic over Tehran's nuclear activities.
"They will regret it, as they are regretting it in Iraq," Jafari said.
Asked how Iran would respond if a neighboring country let its territory be used to launch attacks, Jafari said, "You have seen the missiles - just pull the trigger and shoot."
chewonmysac
09-23-2007, 12:50 PM
This guy has some balls. Do you think Bush would go to IRAN with that level of confidence with a fuck you attitude. We do really suck here.
pure_waves
09-23-2007, 02:16 PM
he knows he can talk and talk and nobody will call his bluff because he controls a boatload of oil and he has a pretty formidable military.
with the US bogged down in iraq and with nobody in europe willing to step up to the plate (except france maybe, they've been hinting at military action against iran too recently), you can probably expect to hear alot more of this type stuff from this guy.
KingTheoden84
09-24-2007, 09:12 AM
This Daily News 'article' reads like a hybrid of Bazooka Joe and 1984-style propaganda. Meant only to create hysterical masses begging for World War III.
d0uche_n0zzle
09-24-2007, 09:27 AM
Bust a cap in his dome and be done with it already.
WaddleDoodle
09-24-2007, 09:45 AM
This Daily News 'article' reads like a hybrid of Bazooka Joe and 1984-style propaganda. Meant only to create hysterical masses begging for World War III.
Another person for the ignore function. 2nd post I've seen within 2 minutes talking about propaganda for the masses blah blah blah.
pure_waves
09-24-2007, 01:14 PM
Another person for the ignore function. 2nd post I've seen within 2 minutes talking about propaganda for the masses blah blah blah.
QFT :clap: i think theres more than two posts like that
KingTheoden84
09-24-2007, 01:34 PM
Another person for the ignore function. 2nd post I've seen within 2 minutes talking about propaganda for the masses blah blah blah.
I take it as a paramount compliment:icon_lol:
Fr. Dougal
09-24-2007, 01:56 PM
Anyone watching Ahmadinejad's speech? It's about to get underway.
This Columbia cuntrag prefaced the speech by saying the usual, "we don't agree with his views... we don't agree with this, that... "
But giving him this forum just simply legitimizes him. Whether he's right or wrong, putting him there legitimizes it.
I only hope they actually attack him, and not just let him speak.
Edit: ^ It looks like they are, so good. But they better keep it up.
Edit Edit: Hmmm... on second thought, I'll admit I jumped to conclusions. They're really attacking this fucker in the introduction. I can't wait to see how he responds.
And now they're citing the fact that he's fighting a proxy war with the US through Iraq. I'm surprised. I'd have thought Columbia-types would deny any connection... since we'll probably go to war with them next.
Edit again: Okay, so Ahmadinejad says it was wrong for the guy to question him, and the kids clap for that?
Palerider4146
09-24-2007, 02:10 PM
I'm watching, fucking brilliant speech by the university president
Palerider4146
09-24-2007, 02:11 PM
The ones clapping were probably some fucking scumbag liberal punks who were 12 years old when I was digging buddies out from the pit.
mendozathejew
09-24-2007, 02:23 PM
Anyone watching Ahmadinejad's speech? It's about to get underway.
hes trying waaaay too hard to convince us hes smart. hes like a nation of islam guy, who given the slightest chance will go off topic and spout off his manifesto that he thinks will change the world. ass
Fr. Dougal
09-24-2007, 02:25 PM
The ones clapping were probably some fucking scumbag liberal punks who were 12 years old when I was digging buddies out from the pit.
:clap::clap::clap:
Thank you for your service.
fuckwit
09-24-2007, 02:29 PM
i like how the translator is a woman. take that islam lol
Fr. Dougal
09-24-2007, 02:30 PM
i like how the translators a woman. take that islam lol
True, but they could have gotten someone a little quicker. I mean, I know it's a difficult language to master, but c'mon... it's a pool translator. They couldn't have sprung for someone quicker and easier to understand?
mendozathejew
09-24-2007, 02:31 PM
Id like to ask him why muslims have such low self esteem, and are constantly so easily humiliated? what makes you so different that you must throw a hissy fit anytime you feel insulted
Palerider4146
09-24-2007, 02:31 PM
Thanks Father, I appreciate it. I dont mind them giving him this platform not, not after the opening by the president. Let this ass dig himself a deeper hole. Rational people understand that we are actually proving a point by letting this fuckhead speak.
Palerider4146
09-24-2007, 02:33 PM
Someone cue the Oscars music please
Palerider4146
09-24-2007, 02:36 PM
Friends of the Jewish state, I love this guy, he's like OJ now.
mendozathejew
09-24-2007, 02:41 PM
he doesnt answer anything. he just tries to make another poignant statement about something else
fuckwit
09-24-2007, 02:42 PM
he doesnt answer anything. he just tries to make another poignant statement about something else
just like every other politician. hes filibusterin
Fr. Dougal
09-24-2007, 02:44 PM
Bring the first guy back... This other guy is letting Ahmadinejad get away without answering the questions.
mendozathejew
09-24-2007, 02:46 PM
the question about oppressing women and executing gays really threw him off
Palerider4146
09-24-2007, 02:48 PM
the question about oppressing women and executing gays really threw him off
Hmmmmm, just kind of got me hot!
mendozathejew
09-24-2007, 02:50 PM
"we dont have homosexuals like in your country"
met with mocking laughter
mendozathejew
09-24-2007, 02:50 PM
Hmmmmm, just kind of got me hot!
me too. time to change my boxer briefs
fuckwit
09-24-2007, 02:50 PM
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3343/ahmadinejadqt0.jpg
uh huh. riiite
Palerider4146
09-24-2007, 02:51 PM
Oh now the bleeding hearts get upset when he denies homos
mendozathejew
09-24-2007, 02:52 PM
that probably as embarrassing a moment as this little chimp will encounter. he was laughed at and he knew it
mendozathejew
09-24-2007, 02:53 PM
Oh now the bleeding hearts get upset when he denies homos
exactly..."now hes gone to far"
Palerider4146
09-24-2007, 02:55 PM
Ahmadinejad says "No Homo!"
fuckwit
09-24-2007, 02:58 PM
White House Press Statement:
No your retarded!
I'm watching, fucking brilliant speech by the university president
He apparently tore Mahdi (or as some conservative blogs are calling him, "Dinnerjacket") a new asshole.
Which literally shocks me to my core. I'd have thought the guy would have gotten a sloppy blowjob from the "intellectual" left because 1) he refuses to acknowledge Israel's right to exist and 2) though a REAL dictator, he's critical of Bush, who many liberals (incorrectly, and without basis in reality) believe is a dictator, and worse than a guy who routinely denies the Holocaust or calls for the destruction of Israel & the Jews.
Fr. Dougal
09-24-2007, 03:10 PM
He apparently tore Mahdi (or as some conservative blogs are calling him, "Dinnerjacket") a new asshole.
Which literally shocks me to my core. I'd have thought the guy would have gotten a sloppy blowjob from the "intellectual" left because 1) he refuses to acknowledge Israel's right to exist and 2) though a REAL dictator, he's critical of Bush, who many liberals (incorrectly, and without basis in reality) believe is a dictator, and worse than a guy who routinely denies the Holocaust or calls for the destruction of Israel & the Jews.
I was worried about that as well. But moreso, I was worried that giving him this forum gives him "legitimacy." In other words... In a world ruled by common sense, what dictator would ever be allowed to set foot on American soil, let alone speak at an Ivy League school? But in the new PC world, that's exactly what we did today, and therefore, I worry that Ahmadinejad won't look like a dictator anymore.
Oh now the bleeding hearts get upset when he denies homos
I read on somewhere, just this weekend.......I don't think it was this website, it might have been on a blog......anyway, the author was talking about an acquaintance from Pakistan. And the guy told him, there are no gays in Pakistan. To which the author was incredulous. Really? No gays? How does that work out? And basically, if you're out of the closet gay there? You just fucking disappear. What happens to you, is left up to the imagination, but given the usual (daily) display of intolerance from Islamic countries, I don't think it's too difficult to theorize what becomes of those individuals.
So yeah, I actually CAN believe that there are no homosexuals in Iran. Because I'm sure that once they're out.......they get taken out.
Fr. Dougal
09-24-2007, 03:15 PM
I'm still pissed about the fact that kids cheered for him when he said it was an insult to be attacked by the university's president.
Fr. Dougal
09-24-2007, 03:16 PM
Ugh, this little cunt on Fox News now... this sophmore is all about how great it is that we have a forum now with him and we need to keep talking to him.
Hasn't it been clear yet that talking does nothing? Does she want to keep talking with him when he hands a bomb over to someone ready to smuggle it into America.
mendozathejew
09-24-2007, 03:18 PM
Ugh, this little cunt on Fox News now... this sophmore is all about how great it is that we have a forum now with him and we need to keep talking to him.
Hasn't it been clear yet that talking does nothing? Does she want to keep talking with him when he hands a bomb over to someone ready to smuggle it into America.
she actual thought that the Iranian people will get to see Bollinger's speech. dummy
I was worried about that as well. But moreso, I was worried that giving him this forum gives him "legitimacy." In other words... In a world ruled by common sense, what dictator would ever be allowed to set foot on American soil, let alone speak at an Ivy League school? But in the new PC world, that's exactly what we did today, and therefore, I worry that Ahmadinejad won't look like a dictator anymore.
Maybe, maybe not.
The reason that Mahdi is so popular among certain segments of the population here, is based on the common enemy rule. And how it's applied, is how I stated it. Some people here don't give a shit that the guy REALLY IS a dictator for a political regime that is immensely oppressive, is the main funding source of state-sponsored terrorism, or sending its soldiers into Iraq to wage a proxy war against America. Why? Because they can side with Mahdi against their common enemy: George W. Bush.
In a more perfect world - or, rather, in a less fucked up America - it would be Americans siding with someone they don't really like - George W. Bush - against a common enemy - Mahdi. But that's not how things are.
Same reason that lots of liberals really, really love Hugo Chavez. That fucker, just this year, has basically eliminated free speech in his country by doing away with basically any non-state run newspaper or TV station, but plenty of people in the States don't give a shit because Chavez is really good at spouting off anti-Bush talking points.
Fr. Dougal
09-24-2007, 03:18 PM
Wow... Columbia bans ROTC on campus?
Fr. Dougal
09-24-2007, 03:21 PM
Maybe, maybe not.
The reason that Mahdi is so popular among certain segments of the population here, is based on the common enemy rule. And how it's applied, is how I stated it. Some people here don't give a shit that the guy REALLY IS a dictator for a political regime that is immensely oppressive, is the main funding source of state-sponsored terrorism, or sending its soldiers into Iraq to wage a proxy war against America. Why? Because they can side with Mahdi against their common enemy: George W. Bush.
In a more perfect world - or, rather, in a less fucked up America - it would be Americans siding with someone they don't really like - George W. Bush - against a common enemy - Mahdi. But that's not how things are.
Same reason that lots of liberals really, really love Hugo Chavez. That fucker, just this year, has basically eliminated free speech in his country by doing away with basically any non-state run newspaper or TV station, but plenty of people in the States don't give a shit because Chavez is really good at spouting off anti-Bush talking points.
I couldn't agree with you more.
domelogic
09-24-2007, 03:21 PM
the commentator on fox said it best when they asked him how columbia will be viewed,"the alumni will answer that question". how the us government allowed this speech is beyond me. they could have easily stopped it since they are on the terrorist list.
one thing i will say is he was well prepared. that is the problem with giving him this kind of platform. answer and questions should have made him out to be what he is but then that would have required someone to make him accountable and answer the questions.
now i cant wait for some of these columbia dummies to take him up on his offer to visit iran and see some of the campuses. go ahead and give him more credibility
oh yeah and fuck those who applauded this asswipe
Fr. Dougal
09-24-2007, 03:24 PM
how the us government allowed this speech is beyond me. they could have easily stopped it since they are on the terrorist list.
That would have caused massive backlash against the Government. Columbia is a private university, they can do what they want. They can make whatever mistakes they want. If the government came out and stopped it, you'd get nothing but "See! The goverment is stopping free speech, maaaaaaaan. They don't want you to hear the truth, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan."
Not getting involved was the best thing the WH could have done. Let Ahmadinejad dig his own hole. I'm just not sure if he did any real digging today.
Shit. This comment from a blog I occasionally frequent, regarding Mahdi's speech at Columbia:
Amazing. Columbia was much tougher on Ahmedinenamijhad than the “journalists” at the National Press Club.
Sad, but true.
domelogic
09-24-2007, 03:34 PM
That would have caused massive backlash against the Government. Columbia is a private university, they can do what they want. They can make whatever mistakes they want. If the government came out and stopped it, you'd get nothing but "See! The goverment is stopping free speech, maaaaaaaan. They don't want you to hear the truth, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan."
Not getting involved was the best thing the WH could have done. Let Ahmadinejad dig his own hole. I'm just not sure if he did any real digging today.
you may be right but one thing is for sure, he didnt dig his own hole. it gave him credibility in this country with any muslim that agrees with him and his views. i mean seriously would our country have let saddam or kim ill jong(however you spell it) speak at a major university? it is pathetic and another reason our country might well be doomed.
mendozathejew
09-24-2007, 03:35 PM
the whole debacle might have been worth it for that 15 seconds where he said Iran didnt have homosexuals, was laughed at, and turned a little red
mendozathejew
09-24-2007, 03:36 PM
you may be right but one thing is for sure, he didnt dig his own hole. it gave him credibility in this country with any muslim that agrees with him and his views. i mean seriously would our country have let saddam or kim ill jong(however you spell it) speak at a major university? it is pathetic and another reason our country might well be doomed.
he didnt dig his own grave, but he didnt say much either. he babbled, as far as a coherent speech goes, his wasnt. We could run down the counter argument for most of his points, but I dont believe his message got out.
datsyukian deek
09-24-2007, 03:43 PM
I was worried about that as well. But moreso, I was worried that giving him this forum gives him "legitimacy." In other words... In a world ruled by common sense, what dictator would ever be allowed to set foot on American soil, let alone speak at an Ivy League school? But in the new PC world, that's exactly what we did today, and therefore, I worry that Ahmadinejad won't look like a dictator anymore.
Which world are you living in? Common sense currently sits on the back burner compared to other things like.... religion for example.
pure_waves
09-24-2007, 03:56 PM
any way to watch this online?
mendozathejew
09-24-2007, 04:00 PM
any way to watch this online?
msnbc.com and foxnews.com have clips, Im not sure if they have it in its entirety
pure_waves
09-24-2007, 04:00 PM
you may be right but one thing is for sure, he didnt dig his own hole. it gave him credibility in this country with any muslim that agrees with him and his views. i mean seriously would our country have let saddam or kim ill jong(however you spell it) speak at a major university? it is pathetic and another reason our country might well be doomed.
i honestly dont mind having him speak there. if we were in a state of war id say no of course, but we are not at war with iran. we simply dont have relations with them.
i find him to be vile, but the more he talks the more people can see what he is and what he stands for.
Fr. Dougal
09-24-2007, 04:04 PM
Which world are you living in? Common sense currently sits on the back burner compared to other things like.... religion for example.
That was my point. Learn how to read.
Palerider4146
09-24-2007, 04:13 PM
Ugh, this little cunt on Fox News now... this sophmore is all about how great it is that we have a forum now with him and we need to keep talking to him.
Hasn't it been clear yet that talking does nothing? Does she want to keep talking with him when he hands a bomb over to someone ready to smuggle it into America.
I drive by Columbia U all the time with work, and work at the columbia university hospital, I'm going to have my eye out for that dumb hole to give her an ass ripping. Stupid little liberal thinks that they'll see an unedited version of that speech.
Palerider4146
09-24-2007, 04:15 PM
I dont think today legitimazized him or anything. He didnt answer one question properly and was just full of bs. Anyone that is over here that believes him already isnt going to change their mind on him.
mendozathejew
09-24-2007, 04:18 PM
I dont think today legitimazized him or anything. He didnt answer one question properly and was just full of bs. Anyone that is over here that believes him already isnt going to change their mind on him.
thats true. Im starting to think we are ALL giving this guy too much attention, because he isnt really the leader of Iran. Hes the president, which is a limited position over there. the Ayatollah and the ruling clerics decide what happens and doesnt.
thats why he was "elected." the clerics scratched all the reformers off the ballot.
he has no real power, his purpose was clearly as president of Iran, to stir shit up. His main goal, what hes responsible for is getting people to question the right of Israel to exist. thats all this holocaust denial, or questioning is good for. Its just a good angle for pushing that argument. Ofcourse its not logical. Most Israelis came from Arab and North African countries.
another thing- he said Iran wouldnt attack any country. He doesnt view Israel as a country. It doesnt exist to the muslim world. its just a "zionist regime," as he refers to it. so that comment is meaningless
Mafialife Chris
09-24-2007, 04:39 PM
This thread read turned out to be some of the realist coolest shit for someone like me who knows shit about politics unfortunately. You guys made it interesting. I always worry that these middle eastern terrorists will hurt the ppl i love again and again and again, and not give a fuck, about the effects it has on our lives.
In fact, after 7 years of anger management, the only anger i cannot work out yet is the anger i feel for these mutha fuckers!
I wish i watched that, and if anyone has a way for me to see it in its entirety, plz email chris@mafialife.com
Thanks Buddays!
i honestly dont mind having him speak there. if we were in a state of war id say no of course, but we are not at war with iran. we simply dont have relations with them.
Oh, I disagree. I'd argue that, since Iran really IS supplying weapons, resources, and intelligence (not to mention some of its soldiers) to the insurgency in Iraq, the U.S. and Iran really exist in a state a lot more serious than just "not having relations." It's not a full-on state of war, but it's undeniable that Iran absolutely has a hand in funding and supportiong the terrorist fighters attacking our soldiers in Iraq.
pure_waves
09-24-2007, 05:41 PM
Oh, I disagree. I'd argue that, since Iran really IS supplying weapons, resources, and intelligence (not to mention some of its soldiers) to the insurgency in Iraq, the U.S. and Iran really exist in a state a lot more serious than just "not having relations." It's not a full-on state of war, but it's undeniable that Iran absolutely has a hand in funding and supportiong the terrorist fighters attacking our soldiers in Iraq.
yeah thats true, but its nothing different than syria or north korea is doing and were technically not at war with them either.
yet the US government would host or meet with assad or kim jung il in a moment, and im sure a university would do the same.
So Mahdi says that there are no homosexuals in Iran.
There's a reason why that's true. (http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11274175.html)
Schmed
09-25-2007, 08:20 PM
Iranian Homosexuals (I guess these are the ones that "don't exist":
Oh shit, just saw Vyce's post...
http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/photoessay_2396_images/0925071153_M_092507_hanged_teens7.jpg
fuckwit
09-25-2007, 08:26 PM
Jack Cafertey had a good line after Blitzer asked him what he thought about what Ahmadinejad said about homosexuals in Iran.
It went something like, "yeh they have no homosexuals in Iran and theyre running out of suicide bombers"
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