Robbers shot and killed in the act, NAACP cries racism

[TheDrip]

This story is too fucking unbelievable:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ikqw_We7ScSdB3IfJNgIyF5nlZUQD8SUC12G0

LAKEPORT, Calif. (AP) — Three young black men break into a white man's home in rural Northern California. The homeowner shoots two of them to death — but it's the surviving black man who is charged with murder.

In a case that has brought cries of racism from civil rights groups, Renato Hughes Jr., 22, was charged by prosecutors in this overwhelmingly white county under a rarely invoked legal doctrine that could make him responsible for the bloodshed.

He is scheduled to go on trial Nov. 27.

"It was pandemonium" inside the house that night, District Attorney Jon Hopkins said. Hughes was responsible for "setting the whole thing in motion by his actions and the actions of his accomplices."

Prosecutors said homeowner Shannon Edmonds opened fire Dec. 7 after three young men rampaged through the Clearlake house demanding marijuana and brutally beat his stepson. Rashad Williams, 21, and Christian Foster, 22, were shot in the back. Hughes fled.

Hughes was charged with first-degree murder under California's Provocative Act doctrine, versions of which have been on the books in many states for generations but are rarely used.

The Provocative Act doctrine does not require prosecutors to prove the accused intended to kill. Instead, "they have to show that it was reasonably foreseeable that the criminal enterprise could trigger a fatal response from the homeowner," said Brian Getz, a San Francisco defense attorney unconnected to the case.

The NAACP complained that prosecutors came down too hard on Hughes, who also faces robbery, burglary and assault charges. Prosecutors are not seeking the death penalty.

The Rev. Amos Brown, head of the San Francisco chapter of the NAACP and pastor at Hughes' church, said the case demonstrates the legal system is racist in remote Lake County, aspiring wine country 100 miles north of San Francisco. The sparsely populated county of 13,000 people is 91 percent white and 2 percent black.

Brown and other NAACP officials are asking why the homeowner is walking free. Tests showed Edmonds had marijuana and prescription medication in his system the night of the shooting. Edmonds had a prescription for both the pot and the medication to treat depression.

"This man had no business killing these boys," Brown said. "They were shot in the back. They had fled."

The district attorney said that race played no part in the charges against Hughes and that the homeowner was spared prosecution because of evidence he was defending himself and his family, who were asleep when the assailants barged in at 4 a.m.

Edmonds' stepson, Dale Lafferty, suffered brain damage from the baseball bat beating he took during the melee. The 19-year-old lives in a rehabilitation center and can no longer feed himself.

"I didn't do anything wrong. All I did was defend my family and my children's lives," said Edmonds, 33. "I'm sad the kids are dead, I didn't mean to kill them."

He added: "Race has nothing to do with it other than this was a gang of black people who thought they were going to beat up this white family."

California's Provocative Act doctrine has primarily been used to charge people whose actions led to shooting deaths.

However, in one notable case in Southern California in 1999, a man who robbed a family at gunpoint in their home was convicted of murder because a police officer pursuing him in a car chase slammed into another driver in an intersection, killing her.

Hughes' mother, San Francisco schoolteacher Judy Hughes, said she believes the group didn't intend to rob the family, just buy marijuana. She called the case against her son a "legal lynching."

"Only God knows what happened in that house," she said. "But this I know: My son did not murder his childhood friends."

So now criminals are innocent of a crime if they're black?

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Fucking low-life scum sucking asscunts invade a home and get some instant karma. Fuck them in their dead asses.

[mendozathejew]

This story is too fucking unbelievable:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ikqw_We7ScSdB3IfJNgIyF5nlZUQD8SUC12G0



So now criminals are innocent of a crime if they're black?

yes. havent you been paying attention? zero accountability for blacks now

[Butter Nuggets]

It's only a shame they didn't suffer more before they died.

[THE FEZ MAN]

Fucking low-life scum sucking asscunts invade a home and get some instant karma. Fuck them in their dead asses.
that about covers it :action-sm

[Treat_Yourself]

Fuck that little shit. He and his friends broke into a family's home and beat their kid so badly he can't even feed himself anymore. Should have killed all three criminals and the parents that raised such vicious little shitstains.

[Sam_Adams]

This story is too fucking unbelievable:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ikqw_We7ScSdB3IfJNgIyF5nlZUQD8SUC12G0



So now criminals are innocent of a crime if they're black?

YES! They are victims of social classism and deprived of opportunities that the rest of us are privy to. It's our fault that they are forced to steal and turn to a life of crime.

I'm glad that guy killed that fucking garbage. You don't beat someone to near death resulting in brain damage and come out as a victim. Too bad he didn't kill all three.

[NoSurviivors]

hey.. wanna go buy some pot?

-sure let's go break in to this pothead's house.

riiiight

[Myhairygrundle]

The sparsely populated county of 13,000 people is 91 percent white and 2 percent black.

More like 1% now with those dead ones.

Looks like I'm moving!


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[TheDrip]

..."This man had no business killing these boys," Brown said. "They were shot in the back. They had fled."....

So he should have just let them on their merry way?

....Edmonds' stepson, Dale Lafferty, suffered brain damage from the baseball bat beating he took during the melee. The 19-year-old lives in a rehabilitation center and can no longer feed himself.....

Ah, of course he had no reason to shoot.

...Hughes' mother, San Francisco schoolteacher Judy Hughes, said she believes the group didn't intend to rob the family, just buy marijuana. She called the case against her son a "legal lynching.".....

Yeah, probably just got high and was demonstrating his A-Rod impression. Everything that followed was a complete accident.


Those are the parts of the story that really stuck out when I first found it.

[Plunkies]

Everyone knows when you want to buy weed you break into someone's house at 4 am with a baseball bat and two of your friends.

The only injustice here is that the guy didn't shoot fast enough to kill all three of those fucks.

[cozzie]

I hope the " Victem" gets 2 life sentences, then I would laugh for maybe 3 hours.






F-ing scumbags

[Ballbuster1]

The only crime here was that the home owner didn't kill all 3 of them.

[abudabit]

I don't like the burglar getting charged with murder. Robbery, burglary and 2 dead friends are enough.

[Fr. Dougal]

It's painfully obvious that story was written by a black.

How do you bury the fact that the homeowner's son was BEATEN BY THE INTRUDERS SO BADLY HE SUFFERED BRAIN DAMAGE?

Racist? So what should he have done... allowed these "three, young upstanding black men" to beat his family to death and sit there and take it?

FUCK that. This story needs to get national attention.

I'm sick of the double standard with blacks/whites. I said it before... if it continues, then enjoy it blacks... because this is your fucking reparations.

[WOWmagnet]

I don't like the burglar getting charged with murder. Robbery, burglary and 2 dead friends are enough.

I like this type of prosecuting. It still ain;t enough.

[jules]

this story here, and the fact that a black man murdered a philadelphia cop execution style, and the naacp said NOTHING about it is the main reason why certain words will NEVER die.
you want us all on a level playing field? take off the glasses that make you blind to black crime and act like fucking adults.

[jules]

It's painfully obvious that story was written by a black.

How do you bury the fact that the homeowner's son was BEATEN BY THE INTRUDERS SO BADLY HE SUFFERED BRAIN DAMAGE?

Racist? So what should he have done... allowed these "three, young upstanding black men" to beat his family to death and sit there and take it?

FUCK that. This story needs to get national attention.

I'm sick of the double standard with blacks/whites. I said it before... if it continues, then enjoy it blacks... because this is your fucking reparations.

yes. i was thinking the same thing when i read the article.

[poopiebottoms]

Tests showed Edmonds had marijuana and prescription medication in his system the night of the shooting. Edmonds had a prescription for both the pot and the medication to treat depression.

Man this story, and all this racial tension just really bums me out...
:rolleyes:

[seeinred]

It's painfully obvious that story was written by a black.



Close..

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Those guys are lucky that it was only a shot to the back that killed them. I'm surprised they weren't tortured after the horrific beating they gave the stepson.

[domelogic]

now if only every criminal can have their outcome.


"This man had no business killing these boys," Brown said. "They were shot in the back. They had fled."


gotta love the rev. i guess he was present when this happened. i am sure they were leaving when they beat the kid as well

Hughes' mother, San Francisco schoolteacher Judy Hughes, said she believes the group didn't intend to rob the family, just buy marijuana. She called the case against her son a "legal lynching."

anymore questions on why this jackass was robbing a house? sounds like a fine case of parenting to me.

[weakside]

I don't like the burglar getting charged with murder. Robbery, burglary and 2 dead friends are enough.

Yeah, as conservative as I am when it comes to crime I have to agree with that.

First off, the homeowner was totally justified. The two dead kids got what they deserved for breaking into someone’s house, and I hope it hurt when the bullets went in.

The remaining kid should be prosecuted and if found guilty, be put away for the maximum amount of time allowable. He is scum.

I want to see criminals severely punished, but a person should only be prosecuted for the crimes that they actually commit. You can't just throw on an extra charge of first degree murder just because the other two kids got shot by the homeowner. Not only are you making a hell of a lot of assumptions there, the charge doesn’t even really make any legal sense and would only cheapen the effectiveness and intent that a 1st degree murder charge should hold.

[WhiskeyWhispers]

She called the case against her son a "legal lynching."

To me this is the meat and potatoes of the whole sorry affair. Her son is a fucking criminal degenerate and yet its the system that is racist. No twat, you raised a piece of shit and now he has to face what he has coming. How these people continue to make excuses for the state of their communities is beyond me.

And he didn't lose 2 "friends", he lost 2 partners in crime. Do you think these fucking thugs call each other on the phone when they get depressed or want to talk about something significant? You think they throw surprise parties for each others birthdays? No. They boast about their criminal acts on street corners and front and hunt out their next victim together. If they were truly friends they would'nt allow one another to destroy their lives and others with senseless acts of violence on a daily basis.

I say they fry the motherfucker and remove the mothers ovaries so she can't sully this planet with another sociopath.

[FellowTraveler]

Nononono...here is the justice system for the NAACP:

Black convicted of a crime = racism
Black acquitted of a crime = justice

It still fucking infuriates me to no end that the white couple that was *****, beaten, mutilated, set on fire and murdered in Tennessee gets not one goddamn mention in the media, but we are expected to feel sympathy when two criminals are killed after trying to rob a house and beating a kid so bad that he cannot function as a human being anymore. Execute the mother along with her fucking scumbag offspring. No disrespect.

[TheDrip]

It still fucking infuriates me to no end that the white couple that was *****, beaten, mutilated, set on fire and murdered in Tennessee gets not one goddamn mention in the media

But you just don't understand. You have to look at the upbringing of the individuals. Just like dog-fighting, it's part of their culture down there.:action-sm

[Kris_LTRMa]

Yeah, as conservative as I am when it comes to crime I have to agree with that.

First off, the homeowner was totally justified. The two dead kids got what they deserved for breaking into someone’s house, and I hope it hurt when the bullets went in.

The remaining kid should be prosecuted and if found guilty, be put away for the maximum amount of time allowable. He is scum.

I want to see criminals severely punished, but a person should only be prosecuted for the crimes that they actually commit. You can't just throw on an extra charge of first degree murder just because the other two kids got shot by the homeowner. Not only are you making a hell of a lot of assumptions there, the charge doesn’t even really make any legal sense and would only cheapen the effectiveness and intent that a 1st degree murder charge should hold.

FINALLY! A logical response.

While everyone is pissed off that only two of the three died and that the remaining one is upset over his sentence, the bottom line is the District Attorney went out of his way to use a law that, in its various versions is hardly ever used. Yes, the three of them were wrong to break into the guy's house at 4 in the morning. Yes, the homeowner had every right to defend his home, but to say that the surviving n***er should be held responsible for the other two's deaths seems wrong. Even if he was the mastermind behind the entire debacle, the other two followed along and are therefore equally as guilty.

Whether racism played a role or not, I don't know. But it sure smells of something rotten.

[TheDrip]

The racism angle bugs me about this. Same situation but throw a white guy in there and no protests, no outcry, no 'legal lynching' the guy would just have his day in court.

Although, that being said, I'm still blown away that the mother seems to completely unphased about the break-in and beating.

[Treat_Yourself]

FINALLY! A logical response.

While everyone is pissed off that only two of the three died and that the remaining one is upset over his sentence, the bottom line is the District Attorney went out of his way to use a law that, in its various versions is hardly ever used. Yes, the three of them were wrong to break into the guy's house at 4 in the morning. Yes, the homeowner had every right to defend his home, but to say that the surviving n***er should be held responsible for the other two's deaths seems wrong. Even if he was the mastermind behind the entire debacle, the other two followed along and are therefore equally as guilty.

Whether racism played a role or not, I don't know. But it sure smells of something rotten.
This is like a felony muder statute. If you commit a crime that is by it's nature dangerous and someone gets killed because of that crime you can be hit with felony murder. It's a pretty well established legal principle and not just in California.

[B] Statutory Law – Under most modern murder statutes, a death that results from the commission of an enumerated felony (usually a dangerous felony, such as arson, ****, robbery, or burglary) constitutes first-degree murder for which the maximum penalty is death or life imprisonment. If a death results from the commission of an unspecified felony, it is second-degree murder. The felony-murder rule authorizes strict liability for a death that results from commission of a felony.

http://www.lexisnexis.com/lawschool/study/outlines/html/crim/crim24.htm

[Kris_LTRMa]

This is like a felony muder statute. If you commit a crime that is by it's nature dangerous and someone gets killed because of that crime you can be hit with felony murder. It's a pretty well established legal principle and not just in California.

http://www.lexisnexis.com/lawschool/study/outlines/html/crim/crim24.htm

I thought, if anything, he'd be guilty of manslaughter since they went in to rob the guy and not murder anyone. Granted, the other two were killed as a result of the initial crime, but since he wasn't the one to actually point & shoot, I didn't think it would qualify as murder on his part. I'm sure if the D.A. gets the charge to stick, his attorney will argue for a lower charge based on some form of my argument.

Question: Do you need a paid subscription to access lexisnexis? The court clerk's exam is coming in May 2008 and even though I've got the study aids, having access to that I'm sure would come in handy.

[Treat_Yourself]

I thought, if anything, he'd be guilty of manslaughter since they went in to rob the guy and not murder anyone. Granted, the other two were killed as a result of the initial crime, but since he wasn't the one to actually point & shoot, I didn't think it would qualify as murder on his part. I'm sure if the D.A. gets the charge to stick, his attorney will argue for a lower charge based on some form of my argument.

Question: Do you need a paid subscription to access lexisnexis? The court clerk's exam is coming in May 2008 and even though I've got the study aids, having access to that I'm sure would come in handy.



http://www.lexisnexis.com/lawschool/study/outlines/

http://www.lexisnexis.com/lawschool/study/

Not for this stuff.

[Jerry1]

I think the law says that if you engage in an illegal or irresponsible act which leads to a death, you are responsible for the death.
The same rule applies if a guy gets into a car chase with police and one of the cops dies in an accident with a bus during the chase, the guy they were chasing is charged with the death. What level of crime & sentencing can depend on circumstances of the death. If you robbed someone and the gun went off accidently killing the person you're robbing, you may not get charged with murder.
There was something like this mentioned when those two TV choppers crashed following a police chase and there was talk of charging the suspect with those fatalities also.

[jrsaint]

If one of your accomplicies gets killed by ANYONE while in the commision of a criminal act, you are responsible for his death because you both conspired to commit said act, even in light of unfortunite outcomes, regardless of who killed him. Fuck these assholes, I use Glaser brand ammo in my 44 mag and 9mm Browning high power for just such situations. I can gaurenfuckintee a perp being shot with this ammo will bleed out and die even if I lived next door to a trauma unit with paramedics waiting at the front door. Glaser ammo rules!!!!!!!
As for the boys, not a good day to be fuckin with strangers.

[Treat_Yourself]

If one of your accomplicies gets killed by ANYONE while in the commision of a criminal act, you are responsible for his death because you both conspired to commit said act, even in light of unfortunite outcomes, regardless of who killed him. Fuck these assholes, I use Glaser brand ammo in my 44 mag and 9mm Browning high power for just such situations. I can gaurenfuckintee a perp being shot with this ammo will bleed out and die even if I lived next door to a trauma unit with paramedics waiting at the front door. Glaser ammo rules!!!!!!!
As for the boys, not a good day to be fuckin with strangers.

And you get the added benefit of not shooting through walls and hitting family members. Do you use the blue or silver?

[The Sarge]

For a minute there...I thought ol' Bernie was at it again...

Lingerrr Longerrr

[PEST BY TRADE]

The NAACP doesn't care about the 19 year old that had his head smashed in Neither does the mother who said they just wanted to buy pot. last time I went to buy something I dont think I smashed in the head of the person I was buying it from...

The other day I saw a NAACP bumper sticker that read : "Stop BLACK on BLACK crime" all other crime must be ok to them

[Zona992006]

For those who know me, or have seen anything I have ever posted......Here are my thoughts...

That third guy should have been killed. The shooters only fault was allowing the third guy to escape.

However, I disagree he the robber should be charged with murder. Selective enforcement of antiquated laws is wrong.

The perfect scenerio would have been, the father killed all three of them. Period. If they broke into my house, I would have killed them, black, white, hispanic, Stern fans, it doesnt matter...those fuckers should have all been killed.

[Fuck Crosby]

The only crime here was that the home owner didn't kill all 3 of them.

Exactly what I was thinking. Fucking scumbags should have all went

[Zona992006]

Originally Posted by Ballbuster1
The only crime here was that the home owner didn't kill all 3 of them.

Exactly what I was thinking. Fucking scumbags should have all went

For those that know me..


x3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kris_LTRMa]

For those who know me, or have seen anything I have ever posted......Here are my thoughts...

That third guy should have been killed. The shooters only fault was allowing the third guy to escape.

However, I disagree he the robber should be charged with murder. Selective enforcement of antiquated laws is wrong.

The perfect scenerio would have been, the father killed all three of them. Period. If they broke into my house, I would have killed them, black, white, hispanic, Stern fans, it doesnt matter...those fuckers should have all been killed.

Especially Stern fans :haha7:

[Kris_LTRMa]

http://www.lexisnexis.com/lawschool/study/outlines/

http://www.lexisnexis.com/lawschool/study/

Not for this stuff.

Thanks ... this'll help I'm sure

[Zona992006]

Especially Stern fans :haha7:

lol