Having Sciatica SUCKS the fat ass!

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

I know there is a back ache thread out there some where, but I cannot find it, but I need some fucking help! B-b-b-b-b-b-big time.

I had some back pain a while back and it kinda went away. Now the shit has returned with a vengeance. This shit is like lightning in a bottle right down my left leg. It is bringing me down to my knees in the morning and sometimes after I have been @ my desk for a while! WTF!?!?!??!

Anyone out there have this problem?

What is the best fix?

My PCP says wait it out first it will go away, then steroids if that does not work. Steroids seems to be the answer to everything these days. My boss was given steroids for a fucking cough.

I have been looking up help online, acupuncture, cortisone, chiropractor are things that have been mentioned there.

Anyone, anyone?

[Chin nuts]

Go to a Pain Management Specialist, at least this worked for me.
They did an epidural injection into my spine.
I felt absolutley no pain after my second shot.
Good Luck.

[JimsInfectedEye]

Its all in your head. Go see John Sarno and kiss your back pain goodbye.

[Chino Kapone]

Yoga.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Its all in your head. Go see John Sarno and kiss your back pain goodbye.

Linger Longer?

It is not in my head, I definitely know that.

[Hudson]

ultrasound and stim worked when I injured my lower back..also low impact exercise like swimming has been known to help

[JimsInfectedEye]

Linger Longer?

It is not in my head, I definitely know that.

Actually, you're right, the pain IS real. But your brain is causing the pain.

Buy his books and CD's. Literally cured me.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Actually, you're right, the pain IS real. But your brain is causing the pain.

Buy his books and CD's. Literally cured me.

@ this point I will try anything.

[blee]

http://usaturtle.com/

[Hudson]

@ this point I will try anything.
I have also heard of people using Inversion therapy (hanging upside down and doing exercises) and they swear by it

[JimsInfectedEye]

http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~jr182304/psychosomatic_back_pain.html

It has lots of those "words"....but since you'll try anything, you may be able to get something out of it.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

http://usaturtle.com/

I heard that on XM but am skeeeeert.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~jr182304/psychosomatic_back_pain.html (http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/%7Ejr182304/psychosomatic_back_pain.html)

It has lots of those "words"....but since you'll try anything, you may be able to get something out of it.


Hmmmmm, Knowledge Therapy huh? Interesting read. So now I have to determine what my emotional problems are. :arrrh:


I have also heard of people using Inversion therapy (hanging upside down and doing exercises) and they swear by it
I would have to find one of those funny looking chair thingys right?

[Hudson]

Hmmmmm, Knowledge Therapy huh? Interesting read. So now I have to determine what my emotional problems are. :arrrh:



I would have to find one of those funny looking chair thingys right?inversion table and gravity boots
http://www.heartmonitors.com/inversion/gravity_boots.htm

[gleet]

I heard some guys have a wallet that is too thick and sitting on it all day can cause or aggravate the sciatica down that leg. No shit.

[Hudson]

I heard some guys have a wallet that is too thick and sitting on it all day can cause or aggravate the sciatica down that leg. No shit.
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/9/9e/250px-GeorgeCostanza.jpg

[JimsInfectedEye]

Hmmmmm, Knowledge Therapy huh? Interesting read. So now I have to determine what my emotional problems are.


Perhaps. Under any stressors lately?

[Chino Kapone]

http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~jr182304/psychosomatic_back_pain.html

It has lots of those "words"....but since you'll try anything, you may be able to get something out of it.

words are for queers....


Not a bad read though. Its telling me my most of my back pain is because im not getting laid right now.

[NikkorTheMonk]

Walk it off deek.....

lock it up....she's done....

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Walk it off deek.....

lock it up....she's done....


I can't walk. I look as if I was ESD with a bat shoved up my ass.

[NikkorTheMonk]

actually i had the same thing. I had a L5 Lumbar Lamenectomy 10 years ago and im sorry i walked around the the two years prior in pain cause i was to dumb to get to the doctors and get a MRI. Live and learn.

Goto the doctors. demand an MRI or CT scan, and dont leave till they arange it for you. You are the master of your destiny, dont walkk around in pain.

[Jolie]

I'm pretty sure I have this going on right now too, only its my right leg and its not shooting pain, it just goes numb from my hip to about my knee. It happens at least once every night, and most days for at least part of the day.

I'm going to make an appointment with a chiropractor and probably my main doctor, but I sort of think mine is an aftereffect of an epidural when I gave birth. They put it in slightly to the side, so my right side was over-numb (to the point of hurting) and I could still feel some in my left leg. I already had back issues BEFORE the epidural - and they've been getting worse over the past few months :(

I would prefer no surgery if at all possible.

[NikkorTheMonk]

Sciatica can be a number of things, more often then not it's associated with a herniated disc. The doctor described it to me this way. Each disc is a jelly filled doughnut with a hole in the center. The nerves run straight down the center of the doughtnuts. Every disc has a soft spot, and inside each disc is a jelly filled center. The constant compression of each disc, either from normal wear and tear from being a bi-ped or trauma, causes the jelly in each disc to find the soft spot and escape in the exact same way you squeeze a tube of toothpaste the past will bulge out and press against the nerve causing serious pain and over time permanent nerve damage.

He told me that chiropractors can do more damage then good since there is a physical symptom that is causing the pressure against the nerve so when the chiropractors contorts or pushes, or prods, or whatever it is they do they are causing more damage to the discs. But your problem can range from moderate to severe. Cures can range from a shot of Cortisone to disc fusion in the absolute worse scenario. Not everyone is the same, but this doctor was a Navy surgeon for 30 years, and he knows his shit. but the first thing you have to do is have an MRI. Period. you gotta find out the exact problem. But dont walk around in pain bro, get it looked at.

[Dopie Opie]

I am dealing with the same thing as we speak except mine is runnung down my right leg especially around my hip.

Tried stretching and working out through it. Sitting standing, laying down, nothing stopped the pain.

Tried Advil and Aleeve, NOTHING.

Saw my buddy who is a pharmacist and he said to take 800mg of Motrin and it took most of the edge off.

He said the only thing is try to keep off it and take

NON Steroidal anti inflammatory.

He said it will ease the pain and keep the inflamation down so any sort of friction being caused by the swelling will subside.


Not sure if it will work long term, but for the first time in over a week, I am not howling in pain and should get a good night's sleep.

[Chino Kapone]

Try to relax and put ice on it. Always helps. Stretching can make it hurt more. The only reason i know is cause im trying to hook up with the receptionist at my chiropracter. I always text her when my back is hurting.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

So........I went to the doctor today. I cannot believe they actually saw me the same day that I called. Now for the shit he said.

Of course he is telling me the same shit that he told me 8 weeks ago. He says; It has not gone away? Ok, here is what we are gonna do. Uh oh, your insurance does not cover a MRI until you do physical therapy. So it looks like I am gonna have to send you to PT and give you the normal sciatic nerve cocktail of drugs. And they are, Vicodin 500mg, Hydrocondone 500mg, and a steroid, Dexamethasone 0.75mg. I guess the insurance companies really know what is going on with my back along with everyone else. He did say that a Chiropractor is a good choice if the insurance will cover it. I was never a very big fan of someone manipulating my back.....hmmmmmmm.

I guess it is going to be PT for 6 weeks take the anti-inflammatory, and suck on the narcotics when I can. Hopefully the steroids won't make me retain water and make me fat as hell. I may even go buy an inversion table, for daily therapy.

I did find out the more I move around during the day the better it becomes.
Thanks for the words of wisdom baggers.

[shwoogie]

I have the same thing, man. It sucks. It started last July and hasn't gone away yet, but it's not half as bad now as it was then. Started out as back pain and then it moved to my left leg.

They had me do physical therapy for 6 weeks and then sent me for an MRI. I have 2 bulging discs that's causing it.

THE most important thing is to keep your back straight at all times and don't do any forward bending or heavy lifting. It puts strain on your lower back.

Excersizes:

http://www.spine-health.com/topics/conserv/Sciatica-Exercises/Exercises-Herniated-Disc.html

Do Figure 2 & 3, 3 times a day. You want to do a lot of backward bending(Fig 3) and that push-up looking thing (Fig 2) to make the discs go back to their normal shape. Vicodin and stuff like that doesn't help a pinched nerve. You need anti-inflammatories. Ibuprofen is the only thing that helps me. I pop them like M&Ms, about 800 mg at a time.

[HummerTuesdays]

Hope you feel better, bro! :)

[Dopie Opie]

GUys this is fucking killing me, can't sleep. I was icing it tonight and it was feeling much better. Now I am dying. The only time it does not hurt is if I am sitting in a regular chair. So I am sitting at the table right now, until the egde comes off.

Then I am going to try and go back to bed with an ice pack on my hip.

Gonna head to the chiropractor in the AM and then visit a buddy o fmine who has vicatin..

[BIV]

Okay, I get severe back pain from an injury I got when I was in Middle school and it gets bad enough to do that shooting down the leg thing.

I've tried every pain reliever known to man and only one thing ever works.

Smoke a joint. If you don't have to pee in a cup and know a way you can get it safely, smoke a joint. It deadens the pain, relaxes the muscles and lets your mind get off it so you can sleep.

The fact that I can't get it legally for my pain pisses me off to no end.

[Mommadeez4u]

For me, sciatic pain was being caused by muscle spasms surrounding the area where the sciatic nerve exits through the exterior of the glutes (no homo). Basically muscle spasms were inflaming the nerve and causing the shooting pain. I had a variety of treatments which fixed things completely. They included: Chiropractics, stretching, some mild traction (only a few treatments of that), moist heat, and finally deep tissue massage (no homo).

[Dopie Opie]

After sitting down for a while I iced it and took some more Motrin. Its amazing because 4 hours later it is starting up again. Its like an alarm clock.

What I am doing today is take 600 mg every four hours as opposed to 800 mg every 6-8 hours. I am hoping that it will carry into each dosage better so there is no "lapse".


Going to see chiropractor later this AM.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

GUys this is fucking killing me, can't sleep. I was icing it tonight and it was feeling much better. Now I am dying. The only time it does not hurt is if I am sitting in a regular chair. So I am sitting at the table right now, until the egde comes off.


Well, my day was a little different bro, sorry bout your luck though, gat damn what a fucking time you are having.
I can sleep, but once I get up, I can't get my shoes ans socks on without help, after that it feels like it gets stretched out or something. I have been taking the anti-inflammatory and steroid today (maybe that is helping) *shrugs*

Dude my fucking stomach has been upset though from all the meds. The only way to curtail that is sucking down water, a shit pot of it.

[chumpy]

Both of you , at pt don't let them do spinal traction on you. I had a herniated disc and the spinal traction is what caused it to rupture. If an epidural is what works for you do it. My shit just got worse and had me out of work for almost 4 years.

[Dopie Opie]

Well, my day was a little different bro, sorry bout your luck though, gat damn what a fucking time you are having.
I can sleep, but once I get up, I can't get my shoes ans socks on without help, after that it feels like it gets stretched out or something. I have been taking the anti-inflammatory and steroid today (maybe that is helping) *shrugs*

Dude my fucking stomach has been upset though from all the meds. The only way to curtail that is sucking down water, a shit pot of it.

Right now there is no more pain, but I am still waiting for it to come back. No Motrin last night. Yesterday AM, I steamed for half an hour and it got much better after my next dosage of Motrin 600mg around 11:00. Same problem with my stomach, felt likt a burned a hole in it.


Gonna hit the steam room again and take small doses of Motrin like 200-400mg.

The kicker is the bottle says not to take more than 6 tablets in 24 hrs. I took 17 from 3:30 monday to 5:30 tuesday.

Hope this shit is gone.

Hope you are feeling better too, it sucks

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Both of you , at pt don't let them do spinal traction on you. I had a herniated disc and the spinal traction is what caused it to rupture. If an epidural is what works for you do it. My shit just got worse and had me out of work for almost 4 years.

Traction? Is that what the Physical Therapists call the rack?

[chumpy]

Traction? Is that what the Physical Therapists call the rack?

yes. close enough.

The reason you're limited on motrin or ibuprofin is that the body can only absorb and make use of so much over a period of time. the excess is just sent out through the urine. If you keep taking so much it will just kill your stomach and possibly your kidneys. get better meds

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

yes. close enough.

The reason you're limited on motrin or ibuprofin is that the body can only absorb and make use of so much over a period of time. the excess is just sent out through the urine. If you keep taking so much it will just kill your stomach and possibly your kidneys. get better meds

Thanks fella. I will report in the PM tomorrow what the PT was all about.

The mornings are a fucking BEEEEEOTCH! The weekends are worse I guess, cause my movement is less than a regular work day. I have been taking the vicodin in the evening before bed the last 2 nights. :icon_redf

[chumpy]

Don't get me wrong. If done correctly, spinal traction is a theoretical solution. The dumbass who did it to me had the roller under my spine pushed all the way up and caused the disc to rupture. If you want to know the tech of how it's supposed to work I'll tell you

[Dicktator]

My wife has gone through everything
Sct pterson twins has so far. First she had to do physical therapy before the ins. would cover the MRI. Physical therapy did nothing for her. Next was the MRI, actually 3 MRI's. The first was normal one, next 2 were dye injections MRI. Her problem wasn't exactally siatica. don't remember what it was called. No real cure for her so far. They offered cortizone shot , but she won't do it because the injection has to be in the spine and she is scared. She had to quit her job as a craps dealer because of all the bending and stretching. For now her Dr. gave her 800 ibuprofin 3 times a day for 2 weeks which is helping.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Went to PT yesterday. Well I know one thing, I am not gay, and it did not move. That motherfucker found the problem. I have a group of muscles that will not calm the fuck down, that is causing the nerve to be pinched, consistently.

First he showed me that my right side was compensating for my left drastically. The right side of my pelvis is higher than my left.
He did a ultrasonic heat massage on the muscle area and stretching. Eh, it worked for a bit, today was about the same as a regular work day for me. I got a letter in the mail from the insurance company, and they told me I get 30 SESSIONS! whoopdy doooooo. No more pills for me THEY DON"T WORk.

[Dopie Opie]

Went to PT yesterday. Well I know one thing, I am not gay, and it did not move. That motherfucker found the problem. I have a group of muscles that will not calm the fuck down, that is causing the nerve to be pinched, consistently.

First he showed me that my right side was compensating for my left drastically. The right side of my pelvis is higher than my left.
He did a ultrasonic heat massage on the muscle area and stretching. Eh, it worked for a bit, today was about the same as a regular work day for me. I got a letter in the mail from the insurance company, and they told me I get 30 SESSIONS! whoopdy doooooo. No more pills for me THEY DON"T WORk.

Trust me - the heat is what took care of mine. I just did the steam thing and I have not had any problems in about a week.


Hope it gets better.

[chumpy]

glad it's easier on you guys

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

glad it's easier on you guys

Easy my ass.
Still hurts like a motherfucker. Sleeping has not gotten any better. The pain seems to be a lil more consistent since the PT session on Monday.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

If anyone still gives a shit, I am going to a massage therapist today. Everything else is not working worth a shit. If this doesn't work I may eat a shotgun.............

[THE FEZ MAN]

ive had back problems since i was in my early 20's take the drugs fuck PT untill they take pictures PT is just going to make it worse, another thing is it might not be your back, if your doctor is any good he will have them do CT scans of your kidneys and while there looking at them they will look at your spine, oh and get new shoes good ones not shitty walmart sneekers

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Went to the massage Saturday. I will tell you this, that old broad worked me over good (no hand job though). She sold massages like they could cure Cancer and shit. Anyway, I slept through the night, but Sunday was the same old fucking SHIT! Soooooo, I went back to the Physical Therapist today. He thinks I need a MRI/CT scan. He said after exercising and stretching for 2 weeks or so I should feel something positive. So maybe it is a disc or something like that, can't wait for the bad news, the suspense is FUCKING KILLING ME!

[Dopie Opie]

SPT - the only other thing I can recommend is acupuncture. I was in a car accident a few years ago and had some nasty pains in my neck. The Korean that hit was an acupunturist and offered me free sessions. I told him to fuck off.

Well about 2 weeks later nothing was working, so I gave him a call and I walked out feeling a little better. I had three sessions and was good to go.

He then told me he could help me lose weight, so I paid him about $150 he put some beads behind my ear and I went to the Chinese buffet and ate til I puked.

Accuounture - good for pain management, not good for weight control

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Well boys and girls, MRI Monday. Went to the doctor AGAIN Friday he ordered the MRI and gave me new meds.....
Ummmmm, Utram and Percocet for the pain. He thinks it is a ruptured disc in the M4 or M5 region. This is getting interesting, he also suggested that I go to a chiropractor.

[Dicktator]

i'm glad you updated this post again. My wife stilll has her pains but chiropractor helps her, sometimes for a couple weeks at a time. The chiropractors will sell the cure all thing too, but if it takes away the pain who gives a shit.

[chumpy]

My guess is you mean l4 - l5 thats the lumbar area.

Don't do the chiropractor. they're bullshit scam artists! If your pain is really severe, odds are the disc is herniated putting direct pressure on your nerves. if it was ruptured, it would actually release some of the pressure and therefore the pain. that's how it was for me.

Good luck

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

I went and got an MRI yesterday. Guess what?

I have a severe Herniated disc. I have an appointment with a neurosurgeon Friday. Can't wait for this fucking dolt to tell me what he wants to do. Anyone have this before?

[Dopie Opie]

Good luck man. I can't believe you are still dealing with this shit.

I hope it all works out for you.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Ok, for those that give a shit. I got and epidural into my lower back yesterday. You want to talk about FUCKING PAINFUL?! Holy S, since the stingray got me 15 years ago while surfing I have never felt pain like that before.

The doctor sticks a needle in your back and says does that hurt, I say no. Then he goes in again, once you feel the most excruciating pain in your life he says I found the spot, now I will go get the injection. I was like, "you better run muther fucker". He finished up and I was very uncomfortable for the rest of the afternoon and evening. Feels a lil better this morning, he said it may take up to 7 days to take, if it takes @ all...........

[Hudson]

Ok, for those that give a shit. I got and epidural into my lower back yesterday. You want to talk about FUCKING PAINFUL?! Holy S, since the stingray got me 15 years ago while surfing I have never felt pain like that before.

The doctor sticks a needle in your back and says does that hurt, I say no. Then he goes in again, once you feel the most excruciating pain in your life he says I found the spot, now I will go get the injection. I was like, "you better run muther fucker". He finished up and I was very uncomfortable for the rest of the afternoon and evening. Feels a lil better this morning, he said it may take up to 7 days to take, if it takes @ all...........
OWWWWWWWW! that shit goes right to your spine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

OWWWWWWWW! that shit goes right to your spine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;)

Go get ya one.

[HummerTuesdays]

Awww, hope it makes you feel better, bro.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

The shot WORKED bitches. I tried it out on Tuesday, drove to DC, 2-1/2 hrs from home, sat in a conference alllllll fucking day and drove home Wednesday night. GET DOWN! I hate conferences but this one was a good test for my back.

NEW MONEY Bitches NEW-FUCKING-MONEY!

[bill333]

Yeah, but don't go ruinin' it. Once a disk gets weak, it will have a chance of going back or getting worse. Proper back alignment is key and yes, a wallet can throw your back off. Make sure when you're driving that your lumbar is pushed all the way against the carseat - no slouching. If it comes back again, try going to a PT first to see if they can shrink it.

I had three disks blown, in my neck once. I had a pain like my arm was in an oven and someone taking a razorblade from my shulder to my wrist. Torture for three months straight before they used heat w/ stims. Plus I found out that I was starting signs of Carpal Tunnel. Thats why they couldn't figure out why I had numbness in my fingers and my hand hurt, because the nerves from the neck only go down to the wrist, not to the fingers. Took a couple of sessions a week for about two weeks. That was about 4 years ago and no reoccurrence.

Congrats on the pain relief - how about a Fresca, huh?

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

I just got my MRI report from my PCP. I will preface the report with him saying "You are still standing and is everything ok?"

Start of report:

Conus and L1-L2 : Normal

L2-L3 : Normal

L3-L4 : Normal

L4-L5 : There is a radial central annular tear without evidence of a disc herniation.

L5-S1 : This is the most significant level. there is a left-sided disk
herniation that is moderate to large in size. This impinges upon and
displaces posteriorly the exiting left S1 nerve root. Disk material
extends inferiorly virtually to the interior most aspect of S1. A
sequestered fragment cannot be excluded. There is a mild bilateral facet
joint hypertrophy.

Impression : Most significant level is at L5-S1 where there is a moderate to
marked focal disk herniation on the left and compromise of the exiting S1
nerve root. Disk material extends inferiorly almost to the inferior
aspect of S1 on the left and there may be a sequestered fragment.

End of report.

Now, my PCP said there is a 90% chance I will need surgery. Since the epidural I had two weeks ago tomorrow I feel GREAT! What the fuck do I do now? :arrrh:

[bill333]

What type of surgery are they doing? Do they have to fuse anything? How old are you, by the way? Any kind of fusing of the spine, the outer area become weeker after about 20 years, which is why most don't recomend that unless you're around 40 yrs old.

keep us updated and all the besssssst

[Hey_Asshole]

The shot WORKED bitches. I tried it out on Tuesday, drove to DC, 2-1/2 hrs from home, sat in a conference alllllll fucking day and drove home Wednesday night. GET DOWN! I hate conferences but this one was a good test for my back.

NEW MONEY Bitches NEW-FUCKING-MONEY!

My wife had one of these done. Now that you are out of the pain, there are certain exercise you can can do that will strengthen the muscles in your back to keep the pain from coming back. The shot wont last forever, they wear off and people say the pain is twice as bad when they do. Look into these exercises. My wife went to a physical therapist for them. Good Luck.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

What type of surgery are they doing? Do they have to fuse anything? How old are you, by the way? Any kind of fusing of the spine, the outer area become weeker after about 20 years, which is why most don't recomend that unless you're around 40 yrs old.

keep us updated and all the besssssst


My birfday is tomorrow, cough, cough I will be 39, cough cough.........

[bill333]

Birf!


and good luck, bro

[fandango86]

I'd avoid surgery if you can. I had similar problems, though I never got to the MRI stage. I went to my doctor many times and he finally said to go to a chiropractor. He did an X-Ray and I had some compression. Over the course of about 6 weeks of sessions, hot/cold therapy and stretching at home we got it straightened out. I've been mostly pain free for over 2 years now. When I feel it start to bother me I've got stretches that I do that clear it right up. I think I'm supposed to do them every day and go to the chiropractor every few months but I don't.

[HummerTuesdays]

get at least a second and third opinion.

[blackjacklily]

Ok, for those that give a shit. I got and epidural into my lower back yesterday. You want to talk about FUCKING PAINFUL?! Holy S, since the stingray got me 15 years ago while surfing I have never felt pain like that before.

The doctor sticks a needle in your back and says does that hurt, I say no. Then he goes in again, once you feel the most excruciating pain in your life he says I found the spot, now I will go get the injection. I was like, "you better run muther fucker". He finished up and I was very uncomfortable for the rest of the afternoon and evening. Feels a lil better this morning, he said it may take up to 7 days to take, if it takes @ all...........

It probably won't take 7 days. The day you get it and the day after are the most painful. My surgeon used a small needle to numb the area, then used a type of x-ray machine while inserting the epidural needle, so that he didn't miss, and I didn't feel it until he released the liquid. That was painful!! My epidural lasted about a year.

Good luck.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

It probably won't take 7 days. The day you get it and the day after are the most painful. My surgeon used a small needle to numb the area, then used a type of x-ray machine while inserting the epidural needle, so that he didn't miss, and I didn't feel it until he released the liquid. That was painful!! My epidural lasted about a year.

Good luck.

That is basically what happened to me. Did you get another one after the year was up or did your body heal itself?

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Almost 3 months since the shot................and no pain.

[notmikeh]

good to hear man.

[Hydrosludge]

Go see an orthopedic doctor instead of a neurosurgeon that way he can fuck up and you get to feel that way for the rest of your life.

[DJ Evel Ed]

You'll probably need a laminectomy. I had one of those. Piece O' Caak. You're fortunate that the shot worked. I've had many shots, including facet joint injections and trigger point injections. Nothing helped. The disc replacement (see avatar) didn't help. Drugs help a little. 2 hour massage EVERY Tuesday night helps alot. (just got back) I also have a TENS unit that attaches to pads which shoot electricity into my spine.
Try joining a spine support group like ISpine.org

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

You'll probably need a laminectomy. I had one of those. Piece O' Caak. You're fortunate that the shot worked. I've had many shots, including facet joint injections and trigger point injections. Nothing helped. The disc replacement (see avatar) didn't help. Drugs help a little. 2 hour massage EVERY Tuesday night helps alot. (just got back) I also have a TENS unit that attaches to pads which shoot electricity into my spine.
Try joining a spine support group like ISpine.org

What the hell did you do? Or was there a cause?

I have not hammered mine down yet thought it may be helping a guy get his car out of a ditch :arrrh::arrrh:.

[BlackNinja]

anyone here ever try spinal decompression? i have seen a few videos, and read a few articles, but never spoken to anyone who has tried it, sounds promising
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvxUadnvmgw&feature=related

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

anyone here ever try spinal decompression? i have seen a few videos, and read a few articles, but never spoken to anyone who has tried it, sounds promising
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvxUadnvmgw&feature=related

What the fuck does that machine do? I have an inversion table. It looks like that thing just laid you back or something. my table does that for a one time payment of $99.00.

[ShavedLebaneseBear]

What the fuck does that machine do? I have an inversion table. It looks like that thing just laid you back or something. my table does that for a one time payment of $99.00.

Inversion table has helped me some. They are pretty cheap now-and-days.

I messed up my back in an Aikido class years ago, and have had chronic lower back pain ever since. The pain shoots a bit into my left leg sometimes, and will come around to my side also, especially if I am tired.

A few years ago, I was putting up X-Mas lights, when my back actually "went out" on me. It got worse and worse over the next few hours until it started spasming. If I moved at all it would spasm to the point where it made me feel like I was being electrocuted. Worst pain I have ever felt. I cannot really even describe it very well, it was so bad. I could not get out of bed, and my GF and mom had to come get me out of bed, help me get dressed (fulfilling a hot, hot fantasy I have always had), and take me to the chiro. They had to walk me "vietnam POW style" into his office, as I was pretty much a gimp at that point. The chiro did heat and stim, which helped me - at least I could walk again. Since then it has not gone out, but it will get very stiff and I know that if I push it, it might go out again. I bought a home stim machine which I use sometimes. It helps some.

I went to the chiro last time it hurt bad, and he did some adjustments, and put me on this table which moves up and down, stretching your back out. It helped, but the "long term" $4K plan he wanted me to go on, did not sit well with me. I got an inversion table, and use it to get a good stretch. It has helped, but I cannot stretch for too long or it seems to make it worse. Stress and too little sleep cause problems too.

Sometimes I think about having surgery on it (if I am even eligible), but I am afraid of making it worse. I think it is something I will have to live with...

[BlackNinja]

What the fuck does that machine do? I have an inversion table. It looks like that thing just laid you back or something. my table does that for a one time payment of $99.00.

i dont know the particulars of your table, but besides using the force of gravity, the doctor is supposed to customize the amount of tension that is used to pull at your back based on your height/weight/etc. and its supposed to be done several times i guess. if your table has something that provides a certain amount of tension, instead of simply hanging upside down, then i guess you wouldnt need this. i dunno, ask your doc, worth a shot, maybe save some surgery

[DJ Evel Ed]

What the hell did you do? Or was there a cause?

I have not hammered mine down yet thought it may be helping a guy get his car out of a ditch :arrrh::arrrh:.

I fell at work back in 2003. Went airborne and landed on my right hip and my left wrist which was a fall with a twist. The deaf guy I was with turned around because he felt my vibration on the cement floor.

You could have a preexisting condition that manifests itself when you do things like picking someone out of a ditch.
I have even heard a story of a guy who threw his back out BRUSHING HIS TEETH!!! He obviously had a previous issue.

[DJ Evel Ed]

Dicks Sporting Goods has an inversion table. I go there to use it for 10-15 minutes for free when I have time.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Dicks Sporting Goods has an inversion table. I go there to use it for 10-15 minutes for free when I have time.



I got mine @ the K-Mart. 89.99 with tax. I try and use i everyday:icon_roll

[NortonsGravyLeg]

I'm glad I found this thread. I hurt my back a few years ago when I was 19 lifting a spool of heavy cable when I was an electrician. Ever since the between poor posture, being overweight my sciatic nerve has bothered me on and off. Nothing prepared me for the unimaginable pain the I felt when I woke up last month and literally could not get out of my bed. I woke up and went to get out of bed to go to work and was in the worst pain I have ever felt in my life. I spent hours and hours rolling around on the bed writhing in pain thinking of a way to get up and avoid going to the ER. I had to call my wife to come home to bring me to the there. Finally I went and after a CT scan I was diagnosed with Sciatica and Lumbar Disc Disease.

Sciatica I knew about but the disc disease my PCP told me is a fancy way of saying that the normal aging and drying out of the spinal discs that happens in all people sometimes like in my case happens faster and they don't know why. It's been a month and still no certain treatment. I'm not in nearly as much pain as I was then but I'm still on Percocet, anti inflammatory (Skelaxin) and a muscle relaxer (Diclofenac). I'm scared to death of what the MRI results will say I will do anything I can to avoid surgery as most people would.

I don't know how your experiences are or were with this. I can't stand for more than a few mins at a time without the pain in my leg and ass being blinding. I walk with a cane for the most part. I lost feeling in the back of my left leg and only the left side of my left foot...which is odd. I'm fucking miserable.:mad4:

[ddberry]

I got sciatica problems after my spinal for childbirth, then a few years later I was diagnosed with spondylolisthesis (essentially my spine was slipping off my tailbone). I was barely able to walk, couldn't sleep, couldn't sit for long periods of time and when I would lie down I'd have to pull my knees to my chest. I had to walk with a cane and I was eating vicadin like tic tacs. I got surgery because I was afraid I'd become addicted to the meds and the chiro would take too long. I have a plate and some screws and virtually no pain. I do still experience numbness and that stupid feeling like water running down my leg (good thing it's the front of my leg or I'd think I was peeing myself all the time), but I have no regrets about the surgery and haven't had a pain pill since 3 days post op (4years ago). It's scary as hell to let someone slice you open and rearrange your spine, but it was worth it.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

I have been lucky ass hell the last 4 months since my epidural in February. So far, I have had very few twinges of pain. I do not want any part of a knife in my back (not counting work).

[DJ Evel Ed]

You have to isolate that pesky Substance P.