11-Month Old Has .118 BAC

[Kris_LTRMa]

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22769858/
Couple arrested after baby found drunk
WTHR-TV
updated 7:43 p.m. ET, Mon., Jan. 21, 2008

Muncie - A Muncie woman and her fiancee face neglect charges as authorities say tests showed the woman's 11-month-old son had alcohol in his system after passing out.

Police say the boy's father noticed his son was not responsive when he picked him up for a visit on Wednesday. A test measured the boy's blood-alcohol content at 0.118 percent, which is higher than the state legal limit to drive of 0.08 percent.

The boy's mother, 19-year-old Amanda Elbert, and her fiancee, 29-year-old Edward L. Williams, 29, are being held in the Delaware County Jail.

Investigators report that Williams admitted drinking beer around the child and said the boy might have consumed alcohol without anyone knowing. Elbert, meanwhile, denied anyone was drinking in the presence of her child.

Police say the boy's father is taking care of him.

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[d0uche_n0zzle]

Parents of year nominees for sure.

[Budyzir]

I was going to make a joke but, that's so seriously fucked up.

[Smokezilla]

I sure do remember my first beer. . . Mmmmmmm. . .

[DanaReevesLungs]

She appears to be a model citizen

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[Sam_Adams]

I had my first glass of wine when I was about 9ish and I bought my first 30pack when I was 16 I believe. I had some black chick called "Punkin" buy it for me. Surprise surprise right?

[THE FEZ MAN]

oh come on, kids do that shit all the time. so does my dog, its a running joke around here not to leave open glasses of booze around because the dog will get into it. if you think about it, less than one beer will give a baby that high of a BAC, so, your boozing it up, or even just having a few drinks, you get up to take a leak and leave the kid, he grabs your drink then finishes it, or even takes a few swigs, you come back and dont even think about were half your beer or drink went. i did it when i was 5 or 6, my parents took me to a family party i was wandering around picking up drinks and finishing them off or just drinking out of them, im drunk walk into a little girl on a swing then get smashed in the face and end up in the ER with a concussion, drunk at 5. kids will be kids, i dont think thats negligence on the part of the parents, now if they were all passed out drunk and the house burned down...... drinking isn't illegal yet, and kids getting into shit they shouldn't is nothing new, this is just a case of a slow news day, and over zealous prosecutors

[LiddyRules]

Li'l Billy Madison's party

[JimsInfectedEye]

Police say the boy's father noticed his son was not responsive when he picked him up for a visit on Wednesday. A test measured the boy's blood-alcohol content at 0.118 percent, which is higher than the state legal limit to drive of 0.08 percent.

Were they worried the kid was gonna drive?

[Flea_Man]

Danny's kid?

[Kris_LTRMa]

She appears to be a model citizen

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So too does her boyfriend

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[Newmania]

[Wayne Campbell] Does this guy know how to party or what! [/WC]

[Smokezilla]

The Baby's-Mama, 19-year-old Amanda Elbert, and her fiancee, 29-year-old Edward L. Williams, 29, are being held in the Delaware County Jail.

Fixed that news story for ya, Kris!!!:action-sm

[THE FEZ MAN]

i would be more pissed that there was a coon in the wood pile than my baby being drunk......

[Aizazzle]

Wow that is pretty fucked up.

Guess they would have taken me away from my dad, he gave me a glass of beer when I was 5 or 6. Let's just say mom was not pleased.

[gleet]

The kid handled the same amount of alcohol better than Matt Roloff.

[Smokezilla]

i would be more pissed that there was a coon in the wood pile than my baby being drunk......

But you'd hit it anyway. . . right????:action-sm

. . . And hit that bell for me, will ya?:p

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[Simby19]

Were they worried the kid was gonna drive?

That's the first fucking thing I thought, too.

[click]

Some one was telling me back in the day, that if a kid was teething they would rub some Jim Beam or JD on their gums. That would be child abuse now I guess.
I'm not comparing it to what these obviously upstanding parents did.

[THE FEZ MAN]

But you'd hit it anyway. . . right????:action-sm

. . . And hit that bell for me, will ya?:p

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ummmm, no, i would not hit it. that is soiled

and ding ding ding for both of us

[Kris_LTRMa]

oh come on, kids do that shit all the time. so does my dog, its a running joke around here not to leave open glasses of booze around because the dog will get into it. if you think about it, less than one beer will give a baby that high of a BAC, so, your boozing it up, or even just having a few drinks, you get up to take a leak and leave the kid, he grabs your drink then finishes it, or even takes a few swigs, you come back and dont even think about were half your beer or drink went. i did it when i was 5 or 6, my parents took me to a family party i was wandering around picking up drinks and finishing them off or just drinking out of them, im drunk walk into a little girl on a swing then get smashed in the face and end up in the ER with a concussion, drunk at 5. kids will be kids, i dont think thats negligence on the part of the parents, now if they were all passed out drunk and the house burned down...... drinking isn't illegal yet, and kids getting into shit they shouldn't is nothing new, this is just a case of a slow news day, and over zealous prosecutors

There's a big difference between being drunk at 5 and being drunk at 11-months, Fez. An 11-month old is barely walking yet (I think-it's been awhile since I've had to deal with that milestone) & even if he is walking, he's not walking well enough to walk to a table, grab a glass and stand there & drink from it. Most 11-month olds are either using baby bottles or sippy cups.

But okay, let's say that the baby did somehow manage to get hold of a bottle of beer or a glass of whatever white trash in Indiana drink, mommy doesn't notice the kid is unresponsive? Step-daddy doesn't notice either? Yeah, it doesn't take much to give the kid a high BAC. According to an article read a few minutes ago, a 15-pound person who consumed 2 ounces of 80-proof (40 percent) alcohol would have a BAC of .385

No matter how the kid got the alcohol, how is it that they don't notice his not being responsive? There's a big difference between a kid being quiet and a kid being nonresponsive. What if the father hadn't come to visit the kid? It's quite possible if he was that ill, he'd be dead or suffering from some kind of dain bramage.

Both the mother and step-father gave conflicting reports - he supposedly admitted drinking beer around the child and claimed the infant might have consumed alcohol without anyone knowing. Mother denied anyone was drinking in the presence of her child....that raises a red flag, at least in my head - they can't get their stories straight. Plus, according to another article I found later, the step-father is far from a candidate for citizen of the year, let alone step-father of the year:

Williams already faces eight misdemeanor charges filed in recent months in Muncie City Court: battery and public intoxication, filed Tuesday; resisting law enforcement, false informing, public intoxication and disorderly conduct, filed Dec. 7; battery, filed Nov. 28, and driving without ever receiving a valid license, filed last July.

[Smokezilla]

ummmm, no, i would not hit it. that is soiled

and ding ding ding for both of us

QFT:clap::haha7::icon_lol:

[Kris_LTRMa]

Some one was telling me back in the day, that if a kid was teething they would rub some Jim Beam or JD on their gums. That would be child abuse now I guess.
I'm not comparing it to what these obviously upstanding parents did.

Yes, when I was teething, my grandparents or my parents would rub whiskey on my gums. But today that's totally unacceptable and if it's discovered the parents would have to be reported to CPS

[THE FEZ MAN]

im such an awful parent i dont remember when my boy started "toddling" around the house, but im sure it was less than a year old,. dont get me wrong, she should be prosecuted for looking awful and having that tat on her neck not to mention ummm the un desirable living in her home.... ya think she hates her daddy?

[Sam_Adams]

So too does her boyfriend

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Shouldn't that alone be grounds to lose custody of your children and have them given to the other parent?

[THE FEZ MAN]

Shouldn't that alone be grounds to lose custody of your children and have them given to the other parent?

it would be grounds for a deep sea fishing trip

[Kris_LTRMa]

you're not an awful parent ... I'm just an over doting aunt who remembers that by 11 months the boys were walking but not well. Sometimes I wish they'd go back to those days because I can't keep up with them and have no idea how my sister, who has MS, keeps us with them!

The pending charge is neglect of a dependent, a class C felony carrying a standard four-year prison term. Assuming this is the first offense, it might be better to put the mother on probation and send her to parenting classes. She's 19 and white trash. My guess is she hasn't had too many positive role models in her life.

Her fiance on the other hand should have the book thrown at him. His rap sheet and these new charges shows that he's incapable of rehabilitation and should be locked up in order to protect society from the danger to it that he is.

I should've gone into law - I'd be a judge by now (that had been my goal at one time) and would love to be able to hand down a decision like that. I'd have to use better language so on appeal it can't be said that I was being prejudicial but ohhh, it would be so great!!

[HummerTuesdays]

Damn. I was 4-ish when I shared a bottle of Bud with my grandfather. What's this world coming to?

[Kris_LTRMa]

it would be grounds for a deep sea fishing trip

My uncle Carmine Calamari taught me how to make nice heavy shoes from cement. I'd be willing to pass that knowledge on if you'd like :haha7:

[LiddyRules]

Shouldn't that alone be grounds to lose custody of your children and have them given to the other parent? This is his mother http://images.ibsys.com/2002/0708/1546818_200X150.jpg

[Sam_Adams]

it would be grounds for a deep sea fishing trip

Don't be silly. You don't need water that deep. "They" don't know how to swim anyway so you can just go on a fishing trip to a creek.

[Kris_LTRMa]

Don't be silly. You don't need water that deep. "They" don't know how to swim anyway so you can just go on a fishing trip to a crick.

Gotta spell it like white trash would say it, Sam :action-sm

[click]

Yes, when I was teething, my grandparents or my parents would rub whiskey on my gums. But today that's totally unacceptable and if it's discovered the parents would have to be reported to CPS

I remember thinking when I heard that, wow. That would be abuse now.
hey, shouldn't you be studying or something:action-sm

[THE FEZ MAN]

My uncle Carmine Calamari taught me how to make nice heavy shoes from cement. I'd be willing to pass that knowledge on if you'd like :haha7:

pffft cement shoes is amature shit, i have a drum full of old tire chains that work way better, eventually the legs rot off the concrete and the body's pop up after the spring thaw....... ya gotta wrap em up in chains and pop a few holes in em to let the fishies in... my fuck up is that i sold my boat

[gleet]

Sheriff: "Just like one of them to steal more chains than he can swim with."

[Sprite]

I had some black chick called "Punkin" buy it for me.

Boo got shot, boo got shot.

LiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiingerLooooonnngger

[Kris_LTRMa]

pffft cement shoes is amature shit, i have a drum full of old tire chains that work way better, eventually the legs rot off the concrete and the body's pop up after the spring thaw....... ya gotta wrap em up in chains and pop a few holes in em to let the fishies in... my fuck up is that i sold my boat

I believe No Survivors has a boat or has access to a boat that I'm sure will suit your purposes. Just make sure to wrap the body in plastic so he doesn't bleed all over the boat :haha7:

[TheDrip]

I love the conflicting stories:

Whitey said no drinking was going on, nagger said he was having a beer.

My guess, they were having a 'hood party and the little tyke was woken up, so they decided to give it some booze to help the kid nod off again. Went into check, saw the kid was unresponsive, told everyone to get the fuck out because they would have to call 911.

Fucking malt liquor will do it every time.

[DonTheTrucker]

So too does her boyfriend

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Wow. Who saw that coming. :rolleyes:

I guess not all little girls grow up loving their daddies.

[Kris_LTRMa]

I remember thinking when I heard that, wow. That would be abuse now.
hey, shouldn't you be studying or something:action-sm

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[sniper2323]

There's a big difference between being drunk at 5 and being drunk at 11-months, Fez. An 11-month old is barely walking yet (I think-it's been awhile since I've had to deal with that milestone) & even if he is walking, he's not walking well enough to walk to a table, grab a glass and stand there & drink from it. Most 11-month olds are either using baby bottles or sippy cups.



I bet the little tike wasn't walking to well with a BAC of 0.118.

Just sayin