2008 NASCAR thread

[Mother Shucker]

I got nothin, just wanted to be the 1000 reply.

[nevnut]

been a fan of jr's since he started in the busch series.

Nothing's gonna change that.

x2

[Bud8Weiser]

Once again. Kyle Busch is a cunt. That is all.

[maz]

Once again. Kyle Busch is a cunt. That is all.

HA-HA

I knew Your response
Wasn't gonna be Pleasant

:clap::clap::clap:

[Beeman99]

Been a fan of Jr's since he started in the Busch series.

Nothing's gonna change that.

x3, Sr was great, and Jr is very much like him

[Bud8Weiser]

HA-HA

I knew Your response
Wasn't gonna be Pleasant

:clap::clap::clap:

Haha. I like to be consistent. This may come as a shock to a lot of people. I actually felt bad for Jeff last night. All of might hate has to be focused on Kyle Busch now that I don't have any for anyone else anymore. Well maybe a little for Denny but not much.

[dolphin cunt]

Kyle still needs to prove he can win during the Chase.

[Motor Head]

I wasn't directing my comment (which was under the influence of the better part of a bottle of Jack) right at you. I just get pissed at the blind that can't atleast admit that Kyle is the best driver in NASCAR AT THIS TIME.

I had some fuckface on Youtube threaten to kill me, if he could find out where I live when I commented that Kyle was simply the best current driver in NASCAR. I posted my email and invited him to email me back and I would send him directions. He never responded of course.

It just gets pathetic that when Jr. crashes somebody, it's just racing. When he gets crashed the more moronic fans in Jr Nation demand blood. I love the rants that Kyle cheats, and Toyota cheats, and blah blah blah. I screamed foul when Montoya spun out Bowyer in the Daytona 500. But shit happens, and I didn't go on Youtube or on NASCAR.COM demanding he be suspended and put in stocks and have peasants toss rotten vegetables at him.

I watched a 100 of the dumbfucks toss full cans of beer at Jeff Gordon car after he won Talladega last year. One drunk dickhead tossed a can & hit a little girl in the back of the leg and I ratted on the fucker to security...he had on his 8 shirt on and was crying when he was cuffed. BANNED FOR LIFE BIOTCH was the last thing I said to him after they nabbed him.

I know not all Jr fans are this rabid, but there sure a lot of these fucks at every race I have been too. Kansas Speedway, Talladega, Daytona, Bristol....every race some drunk fuck with an 8 or 88 shirt starts shit with somebody that is a fan of another driver.

Even Jr thinks some of his fans are assholes.

[Beeman99]

Jr is numero uno, Kyle is talented, but he's still a big eared cunt.

and new rumor is Smoke in the 66 with office depot and Old Spice as sponsors, Newman in the 70 with Jack as sponsor, and UPS going to the 07. Going to the 12 is either Mears or Truex

[Motor Head]

So far the only thing I know for sure is 31 sponsored by CAT next year. I really think Joe Gibbs would make a MONUMENTAL mistake letting Smoke go to HAAS on an ownership deal.
UPS Sponsoring Bowyer...I love the Jack Daniels 07 car. Bowyer is worthy of a fulltime sponsor, besides that BB&T paint job is FUGLY and DirectTV isn't much better.

Still trying to wrap my brain around what silly season is going to be like. The chopping block will be bloody in 09 with the economy being what it is. Might actually give a few racers a chance that run limited schedules.

Hell, if somebody wants to go partners with me....for about 1 million bucks we can have two cars built, rent a transport and pay entry and tire fee's. Hire a Nationwide crew, and have maybe enough leftover for about 2 minutes in a wind tunnel and a pack of hot dogs to feed everybody. We can steal some paint, and I know we can get a washed up driver or a young unproven driver to wreck both cars in practice and have us slink back home in bankruptcy....just a thought.

[nevnut]

Another reason to hate the bitch...

Sirius NASCAR Radio’s Sirius Speedway is reporting today that Teresa Earnhardt has enlisted the services of Bear, Stearns and Company to find a buyer — or at least a major financial investor — for Dale Earnhardt, Inc.

Bear Stearns is an investment bank, securities trading and brokerage firm based in New York City, and has been charged with finding a buyer for the entire operation. Barring that, Earnhardt is said to be interested in selling at least a minority interest in the team. DEI President of Global Operations Max Siegel declined to comment on the story when contacted earlier today.

[Ballbuster1]

Another reason to hate the bitch...
What a dumbass. If she would have held on to Jr, this would never have happened.

[ginaf20697]

If she had held onto Jr she could've probably sold for twice the price they'd get now.

[Ballbuster1]

If she had held onto Jr she could've probably sold for twice the price they'd get now.
Yeah, but since JR gets more publicity and sells more merchandise than anyone
else in Nascar there would probably be no reason to sell the biz in the 1st place.

She blew it when she let him go. End of story.

[Motor Head]

She blew it. Her greed ran off Jr from his birth right. When it came down to it, she wanted Taylor to get everything. Blood is thicker then water.

[Ballbuster1]

She blew it. Her greed ran off Jr from his birth right. When it came down to it, she wanted Taylor to get everything. Blood is thicker then water.
I totally agree. She blew it big time. JR was the meal ticket and she never saw that.

[Gladys kravitz]

Looks like Tony is moving on for the better or worse.

http://www.thatsracin.com/topstories/story/16423.html

I'm heading down to Joliet Thursday morning for the race at Chicagoland this weekend. Hope to get some pixs.

[Fuck Crosby]

I take it JGR is planning on moving up Joey Lazano then?

[Bud8Weiser]

I take it JGR is planning on moving up Joey Logano then?

This seems to be the consensus. Looks like Logano in the 20 with Zippi as his crew chief.

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah, I just read that on Nutcar.com. I'd be surprised if Logano wasn't in the car next season.

[Motor Head]

I still think Lagano needs a full year in Nationwide. I know he is talented, but he needs wheel time. It would be nice to see one of the better drivers in cup that is on an under funded team get a shot. Jeremy Mayfield, Tony Raines, and a few others could excel if given the oppurtunity. I still can't believe they let Raines go...JJ Yelley needs to go back to Nationwide or CTS....or wherever they found him.

Gibbs $$$$ + Ryan Newman = top 12 consistent car.

[Beeman99]

I'd imagine part of Smoke leaving JGR to buy half of CNC and drive one of the cars comes with a shitload of money being thrown at him by Chevy, and also the prospect of having close to equal equipment as HMS (same situation as Roush and Yates). I'll be happy to see him back in a Chevy, but I can't see it being an easy transition for him.

From a Driver/CC standpoint, does anyone think he'll work well with anyone outside of Zippy. I've heard him on the scanner many a time during a race, he's like Jr, you need thick skin to deal with that shit, and both Zippy and Eury Jr know how to deal with it.

This shall be interesting

[Ballbuster1]

He's looking to own a team as a retirement thing. Fuck, he's won championships in USAC,
IROC, IRL and Cup racing. He's got nothing left to prove.

I think it's a good move for him.

[Big Dick Mcgee]

It's a good move for him. Like you said what else does he have to prove? Newman will be his teammate the only thing I wonder is who will be his crew chief. Who is his crew chief in the Nation wide series they seem to work well together?

[Beeman99]

He's looking to own a team as a retirement thing. Fuck, he's won championships in USAC,
IROC, IRL and Cup racing. He's got nothing left to prove.

I think it's a good move for him.

he's got nothing to prove, and I wish him all the luck in the world. I think it'd be great for Nascar to have him successful as a cup owner.

[bb1mobile]

Supposed to be a press conference from Chicagoland at 2:30.
Rumor is that he'll have Newman driving the 2nd car. Stay tuned...

[Ballbuster1]

Nothing new really came out of the press conference.

No mention of who's gonna be the #2 driver yet.

[Beeman99]

only thing to come out of the interview today was the fact Zippy isn't going with him, and their company logo is kinda lame

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah, that was a big part of the deal that he wouldn't take anyone from Gibbs' organization.
Wonder who's gonna sponser the 99 next year if he's got Office Depot on board.

Maybe AFLAC full time? I need to make a call to Georgia and see if there's any news.

[Beeman99]

Yeah, that was a big part of the deal that he wouldn't take anyone from Gibbs' organization.
Wonder who's gonna sponser the 99 next year if he's got Office Depot on board.

Maybe AFLAC full time? I need to make a call to Georgia and see if there's any news.

I thought they announced either Aflac or Claritin as the 99 sponsor next year?

edit- from jayski

UPDATE 3: Aflac Incorporated announced its signing of a full-season multi-year primary sponsorship of Roush Fenway Racing driver Carl Edwards and the #99 Ford Fusion. Additionally, Aflac continues its relationship as the official supplemental insurance company for Roush Fenway Racing and Carl Edwards. Racing fans can visit AflacRacing.com for exclusive videos, track analysis, merchandise, promotions, screen savers and other features. Racing fans can also watch Edwards and the #99 Aflac Ford Fusion at the remaining 2008 races, including: June 8 at Pocono; July 5 at Daytona; July 27 at Indy; Aug. 31 at Auto Club Speedway; Oct. 11 at Lowe's Motor Speedway.(PR Newswire)(5-21-2008)
AND Street & Smith’s SportsBusiness Journal estimated the deal at $78 million over three years ($26 million per year). Edwards had recently signed a reported three-year deal that will keep him at Roush Fenway at least through 2011.(5-21-2008) Comment here

[Ballbuster1]

I thought they announced either Aflac or Claritin as the 99 sponsor next year?

edit- from jayski
Ah. Hadn't heard that yet. Thanks. Doesn't surprise me. AFLAC is finally getting
into Nascar big time.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/2639952321_978891f037.jpg?v=0

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

I like it. Maybe I can get some swag for our Haas CNC Milling machines.......

[Ballbuster1]

I see many more freebies in my future if AFLAC gets the full ride next year. :)

[dolphin cunt]

I can't wait to watch another boring 1.5 mile track I'm so excited. But really Chicago sucks hopefully running this race at night and the added grip due to the cooler track will finally make for a decent race. Maybe it's just me but I'm not a fan of the 1.5's at all.

[bb1mobile]

Not watching the race tonight. At the
wackag softball game.

[dolphin cunt]

Thats about the only acceptable excuse.

[ginaf20697]

Chicago under the lights is like a pig in a dress. Don't matter how you dress it up, it's still a pig.

[dolphin cunt]

This has to be the worst national anthem I have ever heard in my life.

[ginaf20697]

Good thing his mike wasn't working or maybe it was just a smart move by production.

[dolphin cunt]

There goin to make up for the lack of commercials last week by showing double this week.

[dolphin cunt]

TNT has the worst coverage of any of the networks. IMO

[dolphin cunt]

They need to give these cars some more downforce so these 1.5 mile tracks will have some better racing.

[Motor Head]

They built all these cookie cutter 1.5 tracks. Why not build another track identicle to Bristol.

I may get flamed for this, but I wish they would also build a high bank - really high bank 3.0 track. I love bumb draft racing, always have.

Back to the race....oh shit, Earnhardt fans aren't loving this.

[dolphin cunt]

They built all these cookie cutter 1.5 tracks. Why not build another track identicle to Bristol.

I may get flamed for this, but I wish they would also build a high bank - really high bank 3.0 track. I love bumb draft racing, always have.

Back to the race....oh shit, Earnhardt fans aren't loving this.

I would love it if they built a track identical to Bristol but only if make it like Bristol was before they repaved it. I still love it now but it was so much better when it was one grove.

And the more bump drafting the better I'm sick of all of these cookie cutter tracks leave those for the open wheel cars.

[dolphin cunt]

What the fuck do I want to see Larry Mac cut this guy in half for? this is bullshit they always find some reason to show anything but the racing

[Motor Head]

They are trying to be ZANY.....just shut up and put the race back on.

[maz]

Jimmayyyy !!!!

[angrybeerguy]

TnT Hd Sucks balls

[jackjack]

What the fuck do I want to see Larry Mac cut this guy in half for? this is bullshit they always find some reason to show anything but the racing


they're looking for mass appeal, and the dopes they are trying to pull in don't have the attention span to make it through a race without some side shows built in. It sickens me, but I doubt it's going to get any better.

[angrybeerguy]

Woo Hoo Busch wins

[ginaf20697]

YAY for Kyle ramming Hair Club for Men Jimmie in the ass!

[jackjack]

Blech. Nationwide wins again.

[maz]

Fuck

[Motor Head]

lol - What part of the female anatomy is Kyle again? Would the Earnhardt fan please remind me.

[Bud8Weiser]

lol - What part of the female anatomy is Kyle again? Would the Earnhardt fan please remind me.

I'd be more than happy to.






Kyle Busch.










Still a cunt. :action-sm

[Motor Head]

:icon_wink LMAO!!! I knew I could count on you to set the record straight.

[Bud8Weiser]

:icon_wink LMAO!!! I knew I could count on you to set the record straight.

:icon_mrgr Always glad to help.

[Gladys kravitz]

Finally found some time to upload some pics from Chicagoland



http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e271/jtnost/NASCAR08002.jpg
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http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e271/jtnost/joliet08200071.jpg

This was the front that came through that ended qualifying before it began. The track is in the background with the lights on.

[Gladys kravitz]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e271/jtnost/NASCAR08031.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e271/jtnost/NASCAR08030.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e271/jtnost/NASCAR08028.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e271/jtnost/NASCAR08018.jpg


Newmans paint scheme(the Mummy) was pretty cool looking.

[Gladys kravitz]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e271/jtnost/NASCAR08035.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e271/jtnost/NASCAR08032.jpg

[Beeman99]

cool pics

[Ballbuster1]

Nice pics. Thanks. Can't wait for Richmond.

[Gladys kravitz]

Nice pics. Thanks. Can't wait for Richmond.


Thanks, I wish I was going to Richmond. I found out this weekend that a buddy of mine has an extra ticket for Indy this weekend so it looks like I'm heading there Friday or Saturday morning.

[Beeman99]

some news on Smoke today from Jayski

# No third team for Stewart Hass in 2009: From Tony Stewart Live Monday night:
Question: "There are rumors of a third Cup car joining Stewart-Haas Racing for 2009. Is that true?"
Stewart: "That is not true. One of the guys asked if we were ever going to grow it to a four car team. And that is exactly what the plan will be eventually but right now we're going to concentrate on getting these two Cup cars exactly where they need to be, contenders to win a championship each year before we expand."(Sirius NASCAR Radio)(7-22-2008) Comment here

# Stewart Expected to Name Car Number, Sponsors on Friday: UPDATE: Tony Stewart has finalized his car number and sponsors for next season, his first as co-owner of Stewart HAAS racing. Stewart will drive the #14 car the number once campaigned by his racing hero, A.J. Foyt. Old Spice and Office Depot will sponsor the Chevys. Old Spice is a long-time Stewart sponsor in Nationwide Series. Office Depot will be moving to Stewart from Carl Edwards' Roush Fenway car. An official announcement will be made Friday at Indianapolis Motor Speedway.(Cup Scene Daily)(7-22-2008)
UPDATE: Haas CNC Racing general manager Joe Custer has applied for his team to trademark the #14, which is expected to be the number next season for Tony Stewart, who will co-own and drive for Stewart-Haas Racing beginning in 2009. The trademark application covers a variety of products – everything from paper goods to luggage, knives, air fresheners, video featuring racing themes and several other items. The application was filed July 2, according in the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office database.(SceneDaily.com)(7-22-2008) Comment here

[Ballbuster1]

I don't blame him. No reason to rush another team out. He needs to get the 2 they already
have up in the points standings first. Once that gets accomplished, adding a team will be
easier. He has to prove to sponsors that the team will be competitive. Baby steps are the
best way to go right now. Just make the show and get into the top 35 in points first.

[bill333]

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) - NASCAR tried to even out the competition in the Nationwide Series on Wednesday by ordering all teams using Toyota motors to squeeze down their horsepower before this weekend's race in Indianapolis.

Toyota has won 14 of 21 races this season in the Nationwide Series, and all but one of them came in a Camry fielded by Joe Gibbs Racing. The exception was JGR driver Kyle Busch's victory at Charlotte in May in a car fielded by Braun Racing.

NASCAR ordered all the Toyota motors to use a smaller spacer that will knock down 15 horsepower in the motors.

Toyota president Lee White said he was unhappy with NASCAR's decision, but declined further comment and said manufacturer representatives were preparing a statement about the changes.

Technically, the new guidelines aren't directed solely at Toyota — and the technical bulletin distributed to teams did not even mention the manufacturer. But because the automaker is working with a brand new engine and has access to the latest technology, Toyota teams have gained an advantage over the manufacturers using older engine models.

If the other manufacturers should reach the stage Toyota is currently at, they would be subject to the horsepower guidelines NASCAR mandated Wednesday.

Chevrolet has been pushing to use its new engine in the Nationwide Series, and many believe that model is on par with the Toyota motors.

Robin Pemberton, vice president of competition, said the Toyota motors are legal and in line with previous guidelines. But NASCAR is responsible for maintaining a level playing field, and because Toyota is new to the sport and working with new designs, the manufacturer has gained an advantage over Chevrolet, Dodge and Ford.

"We are not punishing Toyota, but the end result is we have to try to maintain a competitive balance," Pemberton said. "Toyota has the newest, latest greatest parts and pieces — no other company has had new engines in the Nationwide or Truck Series in I don't know how long.

"It can be debated whether this is a small or medium change, but we felt it was just enough to put (Toyota) back to where everybody was almost on par with the competition."

NASCAR recently sent 10 different motors for testing, and found that David Reutimann's Toyota was the best with an estimated 3 percent horsepower advantage over the competition. JGR's No. 18 car — which Busch drove to victory at Chicago right before the motors were tested — was second.

Roush Fenway Racing's Nos. 16 and 17 Fords were next, followed by JGR's No. 20 car, which has won nine races with four different drivers this season.

JGR builds its own motors for its two Nationwide Series cars. The rest of the Toyota engines in that series and the Craftsman Truck Series come from Triad Racing Development, a Bill Davis-owned company that leases engines.

[ginaf20697]

Ya gotta love a sport where you're punished for being smarter than everyone else :icon_roll

[Ballbuster1]

Just dumb. Nobody demanded that Chevy dumb down their motors when Hendrick's
cars won all those races. Just dumb logic.

[ginaf20697]

NASCAR and logic is an oxymoron.

[Gladys kravitz]

I'm not suprised. They throw up yellow flags for so called debris on the track when they want to tighten up the field. It's the only sport that changes the rules of play during the middle of a race/season.

[bill333]

Anytime a manufacturer got an advantage in body style (downforce, etc...) they came along and made things even. Can you imagine if they told Petty, back in the day, that he had an unfair advantage of sponsership money?

This reminds me of the PC world we live in where there are no losers. No runs scored in baseball, no more musical chairs. ;p

[Motor Head]

Brickyard 400 predictions. I'll give you my 3 favorite picks.

1. Tony Stewart - He is due, and he did it last year with style.
2. Kyle Busch - Yeah Earnhardt guy - he is still a cunt.
3. Kevin Harvick - his up and down season could spell he is due.

My happy joy joy pick - Clint Bowyer. He doesn't need to win just have a STRONG STRONG finish to knock off Hamlin, Kahn or Kennseth.

[Bud8Weiser]

Brickyard 400 predictions. I'll give you my 3 favorite picks.

1. Tony Stewart - He is due, and he did it last year with style.
2. Kyle Busch - Yeah Earnhardt guy - he is still a cunt.
3. Kevin Harvick - his up and down season could spell he is due.

My happy joy joy pick - Clint Bowyer. He doesn't need to win just have a STRONG STRONG finish to knock off Hamlin, Kahn or Kennseth.

I thank you. :D

[Beeman99]

From Jayski

Office Depot/Old Spice to be co-primaries for Tony Stewart in the #14: Office Depot and Old Spice will serve as co-primary sponsors of Tony Stewart's #14 Chevrolet Impala SS Sprint Cup Series entry beginning in 2009. Officials from the two companies, as well as from Stewart-Haas Racing, made the announcement today near Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Office Depot, a leading global provider of office products and services, along with Old Spice, the No. 1 antiperspirant/deodorant stick and body wash choice for guys in the United States, have entered into multi-year agreements with Stewart-Haas Racing to sponsor the new entry driven by Stewart. In addition, both Office Depot and Old Spice are official NASCAR partners, successfully leveraging their relationships with NASCAR and their race team sponsorships as powerful marketing platforms for their brands.

"To have Office Depot and Old Spice throw their support behind me and this race team makes me extremely proud," said Stewart, who announced on July 10 that he had acquired a 50% stake in what is now known as Stewart-Haas Racing. "These are two partnerships that make a lot of sense. Office Depot focuses on small business owners, and with my role as a driver and owner next year, I'm both their spokesman and their customer - and I have been for years, because with two USAC teams, two World of Outlaws Sprint Car Series teams and three race tracks, you need a smooth-running office if you expect your business to run right. Old Spice has been with me for nine years, but our 10th year together is obviously going to be pretty big. This is a major commitment for the Old Spice brand, and we're going to make sure the success we've enjoyed over the years continues."

"Tony is a successful entrepreneur who has an impressive record as a small business owner. This is one of the reasons why he is such a perfect fit for Office Depot," said Chuck Rubin, President of North American Retail for Office Depot. "We believe that Tony's passion to win and relentless pursuit of excellence truly embody the essence of the Office Depot brand and represent the commitments we make every single day to help our customers be successful."

Old Spice, a brand of Cincinnati-based Procter & Gamble (P&G), is the official antiperspirant/deodorant of NASCAR, and its longstanding partnership with Stewart has helped Old Spice become the leader in its category, as well as the male body wash category. "We've really valued our relationship with Tony and have been growing our partnership for over nine years now," said Alex Keith, P&G Beauty, General Manager, North America Deodorants. "It's been a great program for Old Spice, and when he came to us with the opportunity to make it even bigger, we knew it was the right move. We're absolutely thrilled to be on board."

Also supporting Stewart's Office Depot/Old Spice effort in 2009 will be Chevrolet. The winner of 31 manufacturer's championships since coming to Sprint Cup in 1955, Chevrolet adds another powerful team to its already potent lineup with the addition of Stewart-Haas Racing.Putting an exclamation point on Stewart's new ride for 2009 is that his red and black Office Depot/Old Spice Chevrolet will carry the #14, made famous by the legendary A.J. Foyt. "Tony and I have been friends for a long time," said Foyt, a winner of four Indianapolis 500s, the 1972 Daytona 500 and the 1967 24 Hours of LeMans. "I think I first met him when he was running Midgets. It was quite a while ago so I don't actually remember where and when. A few times he drove the Silver Crown car I had with George Snider back in the mid-90s and I gave him his first test in an Indy car in Phoenix (in 1995) and he ran pretty quick as I recall. In addition to being quick, he's always told it how it is. I don't think there's anyone better to carry the #14."

Stewart has always admired what Foyt, currently an IRL IndyCar Series owner, accomplished in a driving career that began in 1957 and spanned such racing divisions as Indy car, NASCAR, USAC and sports car racing. "A.J. has always been my hero and will always be No. 1 on my hero list, with the best part being that we are really good friends," Stewart said. "We obviously have a tremendous amount of respect for one another. I remember him calling me after I won my first Cup championship in 2002 and I remember how much it meant to have him call that night and congratulate me. We really do have similar pasts and carry a lot of characteristics that are the same. He is one of the greatest icons in racing worldwide and to be compared to him in any way is always a huge honor. We came up through the same types of cars, from Sprint Cars to Midgets, and then I went to the IRL and moved into NASCAR. A.J. ran Indy cars for a long time and still came into stock car racing and was successful. There aren't a lot of guys that can go from car to car and still win races. It was something that A.J. was really good at and something that we have been very fortunate to replicate. He has given a lot back to racing and has been one of its biggest supporters. Without guys like him, guys like me wouldn't have had a chance to succeed."(True Speed Communication PR), see all the other past news/rumors on the #66 Team News and Links page AND no word if the #14 will be the #66 or #70 team, supposedly Stewart's 2nd team is looking to use the #4.(7-25-2008) Comment here



I've seen half pics of the new schemes, not bad, but I'm gonna miss Big Orange

[Beeman99]

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3209/14officedepotud5.jpg
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9241/14oldspiceyg7.jpg

[Ballbuster1]

Johnson and Martin on the front row. Looks like the plate on the Toyotas have
made a difference. Fastest one is Smoke rolling off 14th. Terry Labonte took the
past champion provisional to get the 45 in the show.

Full Lineup Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2008/20/data/lineup.html)

[Bud8Weiser]

Johnson and Martin on the front row. Looks like the plate on the Toyotas have
made a difference. Fastest one is Smoke rolling off 14th. Terry Labonte took the
past champion provisional to get the 45 in the show.

Full Lineup Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2008/20/data/lineup.html)

I thought the plates on the Toyotas was only in the Nationwide series?

[ginaf20697]

Yeah the plates are only in Nationwide, whiny cunts.

[Ballbuster1]

Really? I was under the assumption it was across the board.
My bad.

[Bud8Weiser]

Yeah the plates are only in Nationwide, whiny cunts.

Agreed. I think its fuckin stupid. Its up to the rest of the makers to catch up in the motor department. Not de-tune the Yotas.

[Ballbuster1]

Man it looked like Kyle jumped that start.
Bet Nutcar doesn't do shit.

[Motor Head]

What a second, they required Toyota to plate the Nationwide cars true. However the Nationwide motor is the same type of motor they use in Cup. Chevy uses the RO7 Package in cup, but is forced to use the old engine package in Nationwide.

All the Chevy crews asked to use the RO7, and NASCAR instead plated the Toyota motors. The horsepower difference is huge in such a competitive sport. Remember the whole idea is the cars to be marginally even, and the drivers and crews are the true factors.....yeah I know that is bullshit, but that is the spirit of the rule book.

So don't hate on NASCAR too hard.

[ginaf20697]

It's bullshit. When HMS was dominating nothing was done about that. Just because you're smart enough to figure out how to get an advantage doesn't mean you should be punished for it. It means the other lazy fuckers need to work a little harder.

[Motor Head]

Oh and Earnhardt guy, thank god your not a dipshit like the morons on some of the NASCAR forums that are screaming that Toyota is cheating in cup. One moron threatened to kill me because I disagreed that Kyle Busch had an illegal motor. Another one said Kyle had "Nitrous MAAAANNNNNN....because NASCAR got paid of by Toyota to allow it".

Some, but not all Earnhardt Jr fans are fucking scary.

[Motor Head]

It's bullshit. When HMS was dominating nothing was done about that. Just because you're smart enough to figure out how to get an advantage doesn't mean you should be punished for it. It means the other lazy fuckers need to work a little harder.

You missed what I was trying to explain. Toyota is using the more advanced motor in Nationwide, while Chevy is forced to use the old technology motor.

Would it make more sense to let chevy use the RO7 motor, then to plate the Toyota motor? Think about it. NASCAR should have approved the new Chevy motor. Why they plated Toyota - I have NO idea.

Again NASCAR + LOGIC = ERROR

[Beeman99]

Oh and Earnhardt guy, thank god your not a dipshit like the morons on some of the NASCAR forums that are screaming that Toyota is cheating in cup. One moron threatened to kill me because I disagreed that Kyle Busch had an illegal motor. Another one said Kyle had "Nitrous MAAAANNNNNN....because NASCAR got paid of by Toyota to allow it".

Some, but not all Earnhardt Jr fans are fucking scary.

I'm a Jr fan and I'm not scary.

[Ballbuster1]

Good run by Edwards. He would have won that race if he didn't start out
with the oil leak problem. Kyle's a lucky motherfucker.
Too bad he's too stuck up to realize that.

[Bud8Weiser]

Oh and Earnhardt guy, thank god your not a dipshit like the morons on some of the NASCAR forums that are screaming that Toyota is cheating in cup. One moron threatened to kill me because I disagreed that Kyle Busch had an illegal motor. Another one said Kyle had "Nitrous MAAAANNNNNN....because NASCAR got paid of by Toyota to allow it".

Some, but not all Earnhardt Jr fans are fucking scary.

Haha. Yeah, I"m not one of those conspiracy theorists. The Toyotas are fast and Kyle is winning. Thats it. I don't like it and he's a cunt, but thats all it is. He's not cheating. How would it benefit Nascar. If they get caught with something like that, the sport folds. They would have no credibilty ever. Also if Toyota was cheating then all of the Toyota drivers would be winning. The majority of it has been Kyle. They wouldn't put all their eggs in one basket (Says regular Joe). They'd spread it around so it wouldn't seem so obvious. Rivalry is good for the sport. When people are booing a certain driver for winning all the time. People are talking and watching. I just wish it wasn't Kyle every freakin week.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Ummmmm, what the hell is the world coming to? A nagger on a NASCAR panel?

[Stalker2]

What a second, they required Toyota to plate the Nationwide cars true. However the Nationwide motor is the same type of motor they use in Cup. Chevy uses the RO7 Package in cup, but is forced to use the old engine package in Nationwide.

All the Chevy crews asked to use the RO7, and NASCAR instead plated the Toyota motors. The horsepower difference is huge in such a competitive sport. Remember the whole idea is the cars to be marginally even, and the drivers and crews are the true factors.....yeah I know that is bullshit, but that is the spirit of the rule book.

So don't hate on NASCAR too hard.

Hey Motor Head, WDT Car #07!

[ginaf20697]

It's about time they got someone good to do the National Anthem.

[Ballbuster1]

They didn't last night....oooofffff, he stunk.

[Ballbuster1]

Edwards and JR almost into the grass already. Good thing they're taking it easy at the start...::hammer:

[Ballbuster1]

1 down, 42 to go. Waltrip loses it and Menard clips him into the wall.

[ginaf20697]

I hope NASCAR is embarrassed like crazy. One of your biggest races of the year and you have this tire shit going on. Doesn't Goodyear put in ANY research? WTF?!?!?

[Ballbuster1]

Menard and Kurt Bush out too. Tires are gonna kill this race.

[Ballbuster1]

Jr's got a good car. That tire call bit him in the ass. He needs a caution and some
good smooth driving and he's back in it. Johnson looks good though.

[Ballbuster1]

Edwards driving the Duck machine still hanging in there:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3212/2328207734_f8d8f9121f.jpg?v=0

[Ballbuster1]

Woah! Tough break for Matty. That one tore that car up.

[KantSpelGi]

This is SAD, to call this a race is a JOKE.

[ginaf20697]

The only thing exciting about this is the anticipation of tomorrow's total hammering of NASCAR by the press. Tony's show this week should be pretty sweet too.

[Ballbuster1]

This is really a disgrace.

[bill333]

This is SAD, to call this a race is a JOKE.

x2

These tires are shredding the cars.

[Opie] The cars are exploding.[Opie]

[kimothee]

Pretty miserable. Waltrip going out early, that didn't surprise me since he always gets nailed early....the others? So not their fault. [Yimmy voice] These tires are shite! [/Yimmie voice]

[Ballbuster1]

And now the ESPN feed has cut out here. Nice work asshats.

[CrewCab]

Awful. Just awful.

[KantSpelGi]

tHIS IS GREAT ,IF THEY GO TO THE POCONO TIRES THE CAR WILL HAVE THE WRONG GEAR RATIO. :arrrh:

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah, but at this point will it really matter? These tires are shit so how bad can
another set be?

[altarboytoy]

Goodyear has got to go; they should allow other tire manufactures in nascar just like the other racing league then maybe goodyear management would get their heads outta their asses

[Ballbuster1]

Goodyear has got to go; they should allow other tire manufactures in nascar just like the other racing league then maybe goodyear management would get their heads outta their asses
Just another attempt by Nascar to get money and "keep everything equal".
Sadly, it'll never happen. I'd like to see it though.

[altarboytoy]

this race is pointless, watever strategy the teams had just got thrown out the fucking window

[Ballbuster1]

Smoke's being real PC on the radio today. Guess starting his own car next season
has put him in a different mindset.

[ginaf20697]

Smoke's being real PC on the radio today. Guess starting his own car next season
has put him in a different mindset.

Nah, he probably just doesn't want to get into any more trouble this week.

[Ballbuster1]

Looks like Vickers blowed up.
Shit. Think I had him in my fantasy team, of course... :(

[KantSpelGi]

Smoke's being real PC on the radio today. Guess starting his own car next season
has put him in a different mindset.
He has to save his money so he can buy some of those great goodyear tires for the 14 car.

[Ballbuster1]

I don't get watching a race live at a track like this. You can't see shit from the stands.
I know Pocono is big but I could see almost the whole track from the upper level
of the stands when I was there.

[Ballbuster1]

Jr getting ready to crack the top 10!

[Ballbuster1]

Edwards is on a tear. He may have something for Johnson.
Cue the Duck
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/2639952321_978891f037.jpg?v=0

[jshep]

glad sadler is doing good. jr is making a good run. this race is a joke though.goodyear shoulld be ashamed. there needs to be competition between tire companies

[Ballbuster1]

Here we go... Johnson and Edwards out front. I called it.
They look like the 2 best cars today.

[jshep]

jr. is going to kill his spotter and pit stop marker.

[jshep]

damn. knaus and crew won it for him

[ginaf20697]

The saddest part was even with all the yellows they were still going to commercial during the green flags.

[maz]

The saddest part was even with all the yellows they were still going to commercial during the green flags.

Yeah
No shit

great minds ...

I said the same thing in another thread

[Ballbuster1]

On the plus side, a win for Chevy. I'll take that.

[nevnut]

The saddest part was even with all the yellows they were still going to commercial during the green flags.

Yeah
No shit

great minds ...

I said the same thing in another thread

Fucking stupid. With all the cautions there never should have been any commercial breaks during green flag. That's what finally pissed me off enough to quit watching that cluster-fuck of a race.

[Beeman99]

glad I didn't watch it, would rather pull honey

[foyb]

Fucking stupid. With all the cautions there never should have been any commercial breaks during green flag. That's what finally pissed me off enough to quit watching that cluster-fuck of a race.

I hate espn's coverage. There are absolutely no "good" seats at Indy, and I'm sure I saw more of the race than anyone at home. The cautions were enough to drive everyone nuts. The people around me gave up cheering for the drivers, and were all rooting for the guy driving the vac truck.

[maz]

Indy Overrated ?

[Ballbuster1]

I don't get watching a race live at a track like this. You can't see shit from the stands.
I know Pocono is big but I could see almost the whole track from the upper level
of the stands when I was there.

I hate espn's coverage. There are absolutely no "good" seats at Indy, and I'm sure I saw more of the race than anyone at home. The cautions were enough to drive everyone nuts. The people around me gave up cheering for the drivers, and were all rooting for the guy driving the vac truck.

I'd never go to see a race there. The shorties are way better.

[Motor Head]

Indy stinks, Good Year stinks, this race sucked. The one good thing is Bowyer moved back into the top 12. Most over hyped worthless race. They need to get rid of Indy and Pocono on the schedule. Build another Bristol type track, and a high bank 3.0 track that is bigger and badder the Dega.

This race was a complete travisty. The coverage was SHITE!!!

[maz]

Eh

I like Pocono

Probably because I've seen a few There

[Papagolash]

HAH! I totally missed this, Jeff Burton killing 2 birds.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=reNJx6avOq0

[foyb]

I'd never go to see a race there. The shorties are way better.
Free tix, and it's only 45 miles away. I would love to see a short track race.

[altarboytoy]

This race was a fucking joke, the coverage by espn was as good as brain cancer, they need to get the other tire manufacturers in the mix here, the race was not won by driving or strategy it was won by the pit crew on the last forced caution, it simply sucked.

[Beeman99]

more reason to have Hot Pass, no commercials, and you can shut the commentator banter off and only have driver/crew chief talk

[Bud8Weiser]

HAH! I totally missed this, Jeff Burton killing 2 birds.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=reNJx6avOq0

I laughed my ass off when I saw that. At first when I saw it I thought someone dropped a water botel there and thats what he hit. I didn't realize the first bird hit the windshield. I bet that made Jeffs asshole pucker.

[Mother Shucker]

Check out this video from my first NASCAR race:

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[Motor Head]

What was Kyle Busch again?

[TallBaby]

the one good thing about pocono is the wrecks.

[Bud8Weiser]

what was kyle busch again?

Cuuuunt!

[dolphin cunt]

That was a fuckin joke I watched it at home and I want my money back forget how I would feel if I was there.

[Motor Head]

My kingdom for a gallon of Sunoco Race Fuel!!! Holy shit, how many people ran out of fuel and had a terrible finish. I saw Gilliland, Gordon, Earnhardt, Ky Bush, Sorenson.

I was hoping Edwards ran out and Tony would of passed him. Bowyer back into the chase....barely. The Kansas Tornado needs a win, or atleast some bonus points for leading and a couple top 5 finishes.

[Motor Head]

JJ Yelley....your FIRED!!!!

Brad Coleman will be the fulltime driver of the 96 car this season.

[Ballbuster1]

I know it's still a ways to go this year but I'll be betting it comes down to a shootout
between Edwards and Kyle Busch. Busch had the advantage early on but Edwards is
definitely coming on strong. He's got a serious shot at it this year.

[Bud8Weiser]

I know it's still a ways to go this year but I'll be betting it comes down to a shootout
between Edwards and Kyle Busch. Busch had the advantage early on but Edwards is
definitely coming on strong. He's got a serious shot at it this year.

If those are our choices, Lets go Carl Edwards.

[Ballbuster1]

Just my thoughts at this point. Smoke and Johnson usually come on strong at the end of
the year. I wonder about Tony, he'll have his hands full thinking about his new team and
Hendricks' teams are doing ok, but they just don't seem to have what Busch and Edwards
do right now. We shall see. Should get interesting I hope.

[ginaf20697]

I can't believe Truex resigned with DEI. What a dope. I would've thought he could've found a better gig SOMEWHERE.

[dolphin cunt]

I can't believe Truex resigned with DEI. What a dope. I would've thought he could've found a better gig SOMEWHERE.

His only real option beside DEI would have been penske since Newman is goin to Stewart Hass, and hendrick already filled the 5 car and considering that DEI and RCR are satellite teams Childress would not have been able to get Truex other than that there is really no other option.

[Ballbuster1]

Rain washed out qualifying. Tough luck for Boris and Brian Simo.

Kyle Petty offered Boris the 45 car but he needs permission from Ford to
drive Petty's Dodge. Hopefully it'll be worked out.

LINE UP HERE (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2008/22/data/lineup.html)

[Motor Head]

The Said Heads will rejoice if Ford grants him a waiver. Boris is a killer road racer.

I'm still routing for Robbie Gordon to get a top 3. He is overdue for a road course win. The only other NASCAR paraphenalia I own besides the 07 car is the 7 car. I always hope Robbie does well. With the rainout, Bowyer will get a good slot for the start. Early predictions....

Top 5 cars, but not necessarily the order they will finish in.
Clint Bowyer
Robbie Gordon
Tony Stewart
Kevin Harvick (he has been at Road Atlanta for two weeks testing)
and of course, so I don't get called a cunt....Dale Jr. Who is a pretty good road racer.

Dark Horse Pick!
Carl Edwards

[Beeman99]

The Said Heads will rejoice if Ford grants him a waiver. Boris is a killer road racer.

I'm still routing for Robbie Gordon to get a top 3. He is overdue for a road course win. The only other NASCAR paraphenalia I own besides the 07 car is the 7 car. I always hope Robbie does well. With the rainout, Bowyer will get a good slot for the start. Early predictions....

Top 5 cars, but not necessarily the order they will finish in.
Clint Bowyer
Robbie Gordon
Tony Stewart
Kevin Harvick (he has been at Road Atlanta for two weeks testing)
and of course, so I don't get called a cunt....Dale Jr. Who is a pretty good road racer.

Dark Horse Pick!
Carl Edwards


My top 5 for The Glen are

1. Stewart
2. McMurray
3. Gordon
4. Harvick
5. Kyle Busch

[Ballbuster1]

Doesn't look too bad up there right now. Hopefully they'll get the whole race in.

Didn't see yesterday's race yet ( but did record it ) and was keeping track of it on
my sidekick. Nice to see Marcus Ambrose get the win. I'll watch after this one is done.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

OOOF that was a big one!

[Ballbuster1]

Never seen a wreck like that on a road course!

[Mother Shucker]

Hahaha, that was like pinball.

[jshep]

hope labonte is ok. looked pretty banged up

[Beeman99]

Labonte looks like that tickled

[jshep]

takin him to a local hospital

[ginaf20697]

Nice of the ambulance to get there so quickly :icon_roll

[Ballbuster1]

Bobbie looked like that one really hurt. Hope he's ok.

[jshep]

oh boy busch wins again.damn ambrose came from last to 3rd

[maz]

Kunt wins

Time for some bowing

Fuck

[jshep]

jr. finished 22nd. complaining of the car giving up, problem with brakes, suspension, and spliter.

[Ballbuster1]

Nice run by Ambrose. Pretty impressive.

Tony Eury once again blew it with a bad call.

[jshep]

eury is a horse's ass

[Beeman99]

I always defend Eury, but today he fucked up bad

[ginaf20697]

I love that Jr feels responsibity to keep his retarded cousin employed but he ain't winning any championship with that anchor around his neck. Somehow I doubt Hendricks would think of hiring him if he had any choice in the matter.

[Bud8Weiser]

Cunt!!

[Bud8Weiser]

Hope Bobby is ok.

Tony Eury Jr is a fucking dope!!! For the love of god will Rick Hendrick please get rid of him.:mad4::arrrh:

[Ballbuster1]

Hopefully, Rick will take Jr aside after the season and explain to him that if he wants
to win the Cup he has to let Tony go.

[Bud8Weiser]

Hopefully, Rick will take Jr aside after the season and explain to him that if he wants
to win the Cup he has to let Tony go.

One can only hope. Darian Grubb is just waiting in the wings. Or I would even be happier if they brought Pops back up to Cup.

[Beeman99]

One can only hope. Darian Grubb is just waiting in the wings. Or I would even be happier if they brought Pops back up to Cup.

Grubb would be a good fit, I don't think Sr would be a good fit anymore though. He's a great CC for a young driver in the Busch series, but he's cut from the same mold as Eury Jr, turn some wrenchs and kick a tire to fix it, not go to an engineer and fix it that way

[Bud8Weiser]

Grubb would be a good fit, I don't think Sr would be a good fit anymore though. He's a great CC for a young driver in the Busch series, but he's cut from the same mold as Eury Jr, turn some wrenchs and kick a tire to fix it, not go to an engineer and fix it that way

Good point. I guess they're both too backwoods shade tree. I'm all for Grubb. I'm sure if things keep up his name will start to be kicked around.

[Motor Head]

It's official Newman has a new boss next year named SMOKE. Still no word on who is sponsoring him, but I keep hearing ugly rumors that Jack Daniels will get the honors now that UPS has shown great interest in writing a huge check to sponsor Bowyer.

I really hope RCR releases the 07 to go along with the Jack Daniels Sponsorship. Number changes are no real big deal until you reach icon status. And even icon drivers change numbers....dale jr., stewart etc.

And you guys are right about Eury Jr. If Dale Jr is committed to winning a championship he will have to stop working with Eury Jr. I finally got to watch the Watkins Glen race tonight, trying to keep an open mind. Tony FUCKED Junior on a very stupid call. Everybody including Dale Jr knew it was stupid. Being a champion is knowing where your loyalties begin and end. Dale has to cut Eury loose. Eury would be good for training up and coming Hendrick prospect drivers in NW. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Gladys kravitz]

Here is the news of Newman:



Newman going with Stewart, more sources say; Logano to move up
DAVID POOLE
The Charlotte Observer
Wednesday, Aug. 13, 2008
Ryan Newman will be announced as driver of the No. 4 Chevrolets for Stewart-Haas Racing in 2009 on Friday.

Sources confirmed Wednesday that Newman would join Tony Stewart in driving for the team next season.

Stewart's representatives announced Wednesday that the team's second driver would be introduced at a 10:30 a.m. news conference Friday at Michigan International Speedway, the site for this weekend's Sprint Cup and Nationwide Series races.

Newman announced last month that he would leave Penske Racing and its No. 12 Dodges at season's end. He has been rumored as the top choice to join Stewart all along.

Newman won this year's Daytona 500 for his 13th career Cup victory in 246 starts. He has won 42 poles since his first full-time season in 2002, more than any other two drivers combined in that span.

Stewart has 32 career victories, all with Joe Gibbs Racing, in a decade of Sprint Cup competition. Stewart, a two-time Sprint Cup champion, is leaving the No. 20 Toyotas at season's end and will drive the No. 14 Chevrolets for his new team in 2009.

Stewart got a 50 percent ownership position in what is now known as Haas CNC Racing for agreeing to move to what will become the Stewart-Haas team.

Newman's decision leaves open his former ride at Penske, Stewart's current spot at Joe Gibbs Racing and the No. 33 ride, a fourth team being added at Richard Childress Racing.

Joey Logano is expected to replace Stewart in the No. 20 at JGR.

http://www.thatsracin.com/topstories/story/17425.html

[Gladys kravitz]

Also found this little item about bringing back the name of Southern 500 for Darlington:



Darlington Raceway is bringing back the name, if not the traditional date, of its signature race in 2009. The race held at Darlington on May 9 will be known as the Southern 500.

The Southern 500 began when Darlington opened as NASCAR’s first superspeedway in 1950 and continued on Labor Day weekend until 2004. The track then lost one Cup date each year and in 2005 its remaining race moved to Mother’s Day weekend.

"The Southern 500 is synonymous with Darlington Raceway," track president Chris Browning said. "Combining the tradition of the Southern 500 and Mother's Day weekend under the lights at Darlington is a real treat for NASCAR fans everywhere."

Darlington is trying to begin a new Labor Day weekend tradition this year with the inaugural Darlington Historic Racing Festival on Aug. 30-31. Drivers and race cars from throughout motorsports history will be there for the festival.

As of this week, the Indianapolis 500-winning cars from 1951, 1961, 1962 and 1977 have been added to the festival lineup.

http://www.thatsracin.com/242/story/17424.html



And maybe they'll bring a race back to the Rock:icon_cry:, yeah right.

[Motor Head]

Joey Lagano is good, but I think they are making a mistake. He needs more wheel time, and lacks the maturity of stepping up to the big leagues at 18 years of age. If I were the guy that writes checks at Home Depot I would take a pass on him and want to Sponsor Busch or Hamlin first.

Any guesses on who is going to land in the #33 car at Childress? I have a feeling it won't be Scott Wimmer. Maybe another veteran will get a shot?

[Bud8Weiser]

Joey Lagano is good, but I think they are making a mistake. He needs more wheel time, and lacks the maturity of stepping up to the big leagues at 18 years of age. If I were the guy that writes checks at Home Depot I would take a pass on him and want to Sponsor Busch or Hamlin first.

Any guesses on who is going to land in the #33 car at Childress? I have a feeling it won't be Scott Wimmer. Maybe another veteran will get a shot?

I've been reading that Casey Mears is the front runner for that ride.

[Beeman99]

btw, forgot to mention, guess who's name will be on Jr's car at 'Dega :D

[maz]

Well

We're Waiting

[Beeman99]

well

we're waiting

mine!!!!!

[maz]

What ?

[Bud8Weiser]

btw, forgot to mention, guess who's name will be on Jr's car at 'Dega :D

Nice. I wanted to sign up for that as well but kept forgetting.

[Ballbuster1]

Damn, I forgot all about that. :(

[jackjack]

Also found this little item about bringing back the name of Southern 500 for Darlington:



Good, I hate the product named races (and venues).
Unfortunately, I doubt they are doing it out of a reconnection with tradition, I think it's more likely the sponsorship dollars are getting harder to come by.

[Ballbuster1]

That's the take I got on it after reading the article. Too bad. I hate sponsor named races.

[Ballbuster1]

Edwards wins the Nationwide race under caution. Bowyer needs to watch out.
He's slowly getting reeled in for that point lead.

[bill333]

Edwards wins the Nationwide race under caution. Bowyer needs to watch out.
He's slowly getting reeled in for that point lead.

and in other news, the NY Giants pounded a Pop Warner team 200 - 0. Same difference.

Why do they let anyone racing in the Cup, compete in the Nationwide Series?

[ginaf20697]

Why else do they do ANYTHING in NASCAR?????

$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Ballbuster1]

Yup. The big names fill more seats. I have no problem with them doing the occasional race
but this racing for the championship all the time is getting old.

Give the regulars a break and let the Cup guys race but limit the amount of times in one
season that they can compete.

[bill333]

Exactly. I figure somewhere about half or less of the races or however the way it would work for any Cup racer no chance of winning the Championship, even if he won all the races.

If anyone ever followed Dirt mod racing , Brett Hearn used to win all the time with his big money and sponserships but wouldn't crack into the big leagues. Smart money but where's the challenge and competition? It'd be like bragging about beating a 5 yr old up. Sure it'd be fun but you'd get bored after a while.

[Beeman99]

Nice. I wanted to sign up for that as well but kept forgetting.

joy of being part of JR Nation, costs $30 a year, but there are some perks

[Bud8Weiser]

Well this might hurt our chances of getting rid of Eury Jr. and them appointing Grubb as Jr's crew chief.

From Jayski:
Grubb to be Stewart's Crew Chief in 2009? Darien Grubb, engineering manager for Hendrick Motorsports' #5 and 88 Chevys, is the lead candidate for the crew chief position for Tony Stewart's #14 Chevy in 2009, sources close to Stewart-Haas Racing told ESPN.com on Saturday. Grubb, those same sources said, has been offered a contract. Stewart-Haas officials declined to comment Saturday. If Grubb ultimately opts to accept Stewart-Haas' offer, it would add yet another layer to the Hendrick/Stewart-Haas relationship. SHR will run Hendrick chassis and engines -- as Haas/CNC Racing currently does -- and having an established Hendrick disciple in-house would only increase the crucial line of communication between the two organizations

[Beeman99]

Well this might hurt our chances of getting rid of Eury Jr. and them appointing Grubb as Jr's crew chief.

I saw that, good for Smoke, bad for the 88 and 5

speaking of which, I feel bad for Bootie, he's a good crew chief, with a shitty team

[jshep]

why in the hell does eury screw with the car al the damn time. you were leading and killing everyone.

[ginaf20697]

I've always said you can tell he's a shitty crew chief because rarely does the car get any better during a race. It usually just goes straight downhill.

[Ballbuster1]

Yup. They get it set up and he kills til late in the race and his car turns into shit.

[jshep]

jr's been complaining about tire pressure changes. 1 pound here and half there. i'll listen to 48 or 20 rarely do they make this many changes as eury.

ah hell there goes a top 10

[Ballbuster1]

Come on Carl! Anybody but Busch...

[jshep]

Come on Carl! Anybody but Busch...


x2. carl's a great driver

[Ballbuster1]

Hamlin blowed up. Big changes at the top of the food chain this week.

[jshep]

woootttttt. good job carl.

[ginaf20697]

Darn. I really want to see Carl crack his head on one of those backflips one day.

[jshep]

jr. 23rd. ill say it for the 1000th time EURY SUCKS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ballbuster1]

At least it wasn't Busch again.

[jshep]

homo finished 42nd. hahaha. some changes in crew chiefs next year at hendrick

[BCH]

Not a bad day all in all... :)

[Bud8Weiser]

jr. 23rd. ill say it for the 1000th time EURY SUCKS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed.

[Beeman99]

all I know is my gf called me in the field to tell me Jr was leading, then I come home to see he finished 23, and was in 2nd with 8 to go or some shit.

[Ballbuster1]

His car was so fucking loose it just jumped out and hit the wall.

He's gotta realize Eury just can't keep up with changes on the car to make it better.

He always get worse instead of better. Time for a change JR. Wake up.

[jshep]

His car was so fucking loose it just jumped out and hit the wall.

He's gotta realize Eury just can't keep up with changes on the car to make it better.

He always get worse instead of better. Time for a change JR. Wake up.


x2. cut the family ties. if he was doing his job then thats fine. but he is hlding jr and the rest of the team back

[Motor Head]

Fucking Edwards. I just hate that guy. He has screwed Bowyer twice, I hope payback comes this week.

[Ballbuster1]

Fucking Edwards. I just hate that guy. He has screwed Bowyer twice, I hope payback comes this week.
Get used to seeing him upfront. I figure the championship to come down to
him and Kyle. Edwards is coming on strong now.

[Motor Head]

Kyle will win atleast 3 more races methinks. Edwards maybe the same.

I just hate Edwards because he bashed Clint a few weeks ago to make the pass. Then spun him out when he was in 3rd at Watkins Glen. Bowyer even said that he and Edwards were sort of friends and he was a little shocked by the turn of events in the two races. He also eluded that payback was coming. Edwards has gotten a big head, and has been bashing and causing trouble with more then Bowyer. He may find out how unpopular he is when he is in the chase and karma bites his ass.

Kyle - CUNT
Edwards - CUNT X 2

[Beeman99]

I don't mind Edwards, he's fiery, which is something the sport needs.

Busch is a pompous little shit. He's what, 22, and he thinks everyone should respect him just because he wins some races and doesn't get his ass kicked for being a douche.

At least Edwards mans up when he fucks up, Busch doesn't, it's either his crew, the car, or another drivers fault

[Bud8Weiser]

Kyle will win atleast 3 more races methinks. Edwards maybe the same.

I just hate Edwards because he bashed Clint a few weeks ago to make the pass. Then spun him out when he was in 3rd at Watkins Glen. Bowyer even said that he and Edwards were sort of friends and he was a little shocked by the turn of events in the two races. He also eluded that payback was coming. Edwards has gotten a big head, and has been bashing and causing trouble with more then Bowyer. He may find out how unpopular he is when he is in the chase and karma bites his ass.

Kyle - CUNT
Edwards - CUNT X 2

There ya go. :clap::D Feels good doesn't it.

[ginaf20697]

I just hate Edwards since his roided out ass went crazy on Matt Kenseth last year for no apparent reason. Something just ain't right there.

[Motor Head]

He's a dick. Busch needs to realize that respect comes with time. He has gotten better with his rough driving, but he still has lots to learn.

JGR - Magnets under the pedal? Hmmmm, cheating? Maybe there is something to all that Toyota power. They have an unfair advantage and managed to hide it in the past, or it was just a one time deal. Interesting.

[Ballbuster1]

They way they've dominated the Nationwide series you gotta think they had something
going on.

[Beeman99]

what happened in qualifying? I see Jr is starting 40th and is starting due to points.

[Ballbuster1]

Don't know. Either a wreck or a motor change I guess. Just got home so I missed it and
I don't see a story on Nascar.com yet.

[Motor Head]

Casey Mears moving to RCR and driving the Jack Daniels 07 car. Clint Bowyer moving to the 33 car and sponsored by General Mills. Bowyer will retain his points going into next years Daytona 500 once NASCAR approves.

So what the hell happened with UPS? Did they decide to stick with MWR??? God, it's not even silly season yet!!!! UPS was supposed to be a done deal wanting to sponsor a younger driver.

[Ballbuster1]

Dale Earnhardt Jr. will start 40th on an owner points provisional after posting the 43rd-fastest time overall.

He usually does well here. How did they fuck the car up that bad?

[ginaf20697]

He usually does well here. How did they fuck the car up that bad?

At this point do you really need to ask that?

[Motor Head]

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK - Fucking Keslowski. Dammit, he drove a hell of a race. Bowyer got loose, and Kezi was ready to strike. Atleast he didn't do an Edwards move.

[Beeman99]

ooo, way to go JRM

[Fuck Crosby]

My god damn boss is at the race tonight. Lucky bitch.

[jshep]

what the hell was jr thinking

[ginaf20697]

jr and thinking are two words which should never be used together.

[bb1mobile]

At a party here and we got 2 drunks arguing
over fantasy Nascar racing. :haha7:

[KantSpelGi]

At a party here and we got 2 drunks arguing
over fantasy Nascar racing. :haha7:
I'm down three, Martin Kasey Sam !
:(:mad4:

[Beeman99]

why the fuck would Jr have a brain fart off the start?

and he's going to get the free pass yet, top ten me thinks

[jshep]

jr. just told eury to shut his fucking mouth. jr is having trouble finding a line. eury tried to mention something, jr's response you've had your fucking chance, it doesnt do a damn bit of good now. just shut the fuck up

[KantSpelGi]

Another gas mileage yellow.

[jshep]

carl is now my favorite driver

[BCH]

haha "I kinda just ran into him"

Well so much for the apology Bush predicted he'd get. Good point though, Kyle would have definitely done the same to Carl to win.

[KantSpelGi]

WoW Carl grew a set of balls.
Kyle will pay him back.

[PEST BY TRADE]

great ending I like Karl's responce don't back down and be all shucks Im sorry Love it
Nascar has been missing something lately this will help

[Motor Head]

PA - Kyle Bush & Carl Edwards, please report to the NASCAR trailer.

Edwards is still a dickhead.

[jshep]

kyle nudged him after carl passed him. fucking grow up kyle its bristol it happens. kyle reminds me of gordon, crying and bitchin when it doesnt benefit him. major props to carl for not putting up with kyle's shit.

[jshep]

wonder what punishment nascar will hand down. oh and as always EURY SUCKS ASS

[ginaf20697]

Meh they're both whiny cunts. At least Kyle is straight up about it.

[Motor Head]

It was old school out there tonight. This is what I want to see....some emotion out there. I'm tired of the millionaire boys club racing like gentlemen. Fuck that, you feel like you got shit on, you get even. Bring it!!

[PEST BY TRADE]

It was old school out there tonight. This is what I want to see....some emotion out there. I'm tired of the millionaire boys club racing like gentlemen. Fuck that, you feel like you got shit on, you get even. Bring it!!

Right there with ya on that bro nascar has really been shit lately to many rules and making good for the sponsors shit
rub fenders and race like the old days will bring back us old time fans that can't watch this corporate shit racing

[KantSpelGi]

It was old school out there tonight. This is what I want to see....some emotion out there. I'm tired of the millionaire boys club racing like gentlemen. Fuck that, you feel like you got shit on, you get even. Bring it!!
X2 it was a boring ass race Nascar better wake up and make some thing happen. Bristol use to be a fun race. I could take a nap through most of this years races.

[Deadhead]

Good run Cousin David!!!!!!!!!!!:clap::clap::clap:


Way to come from the back to tenth!




Oh,and by the way, 1ST IN THE FANASTY LEAGUE ,BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!

[Beeman99]

I lost respect for Edwards for his trying to remove Jr's hand at Michigan a few years ago in the Busch race. He has it all back again after last night. He nugged the faggot, the faggot nudged him, and after the race Kyle was a whiny cunt, hit him few times, so Edwards turned him around and laffed. It was even better to hear Carl in Victory Lane say that "He would've done it to me".

According to Jayski Busch was the only one called to the hauler, but as Edwards was walking past it last night JD Gibbs corned him and they had a discussion I guess.

And after watching Jr after the race on Hot Pass last night, I don't know what's going on. He sounds like he's been beaten to the knub, and doesn't know what to do anymore. He did fuck up off the bat, but once again, Eury couldn't get the car handling. I thought Hendrick's teams shared notes?

[ginaf20697]

Yeah but do you really think Eury is smart enough to understand them?

[Ballbuster1]

I doubt it.

Jr was in the lucky dog spot so many times and the car was just
not good enough to hold the position. And this at a track he
traditionally does well at. Time for a change JR.

Congrats at the 1st place standing Deadhead.

[BCH]

Good run Cousin David!!!!!!!!!!!:clap::clap::clap:

He's starting to get his feet under him. I like seeing him do well.

[Beeman99]

He's starting to get his feet under him. I like seeing him do well.

x2, hard to imagine everyone was scared to be near him 2 years ago at Martinsville. I'd be happy to see him in the Chase and Hamlin out

[Beeman99]

Logano signed a multi year deal with Gibbs today to drive the #20 Home Depot Camry. That team, if it doesn't tear itself apart due to egos, will be great for a number of years.

[Ballbuster1]

Since when do they do the Anthem and a fly over for qualifying?

And who is this skinny bitch that can't sing?

[ginaf20697]

Don't forget the invocation. I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice. And it never fails to amaze me that they can never find someone who can actually since in CALIFORNIA!!!

[bb1mobile]

Got my invite to next year's Labor Day
Atlanta race today. :)

[Ballbuster1]

ESPN sucks a fat one. I don't get ESPN Classic you assholes!
Try not scheduling so much shit at one time you fuckheads.

I couldn't care less about college football. Put the fucking race
on like the schedule calls for. :mad4:

[maz]

8 seconds left BB

I'm mad too

[Beeman99]

meh, the faggot led all but 6 laps, and the half hour I watched was the same boring Cali race as always. I can't wait for Richmond next week

[ginaf20697]

Whew! When you said faggot I thought you meant Jimmie Johnson.

[jshep]

i know everyone is excited for this race. snnnooozzzzzzeee fest known as california. hate the track its boring typical cookie cutter 1.5 mile track. fuck the track and the state

[jshep]

also they cant even sell out 85000 seats, uh hello nascar no-one gives a shit about nascar in la, they couldnt even support a nfl team 3 different times. stepping off my soapbox.

go jr. someone please wreck cunt busch

[Ballbuster1]

Wrong Busch having problems so far. :(

[Beeman99]

wow, Jr's car is loose out, and the left front is off, and Tony hasn't fixed fuck all yet

[Ballbuster1]

wow, Jr's car is loose out, and the left front is off, and Tony hasn't fixed fuck all yet
I ain't holding my breath waiting for a good change either.

[Beeman99]

I ain't holding my breath waiting for a good change either.

nope, and as Keselowski just said on his Hot Pass channel, what he needs to fix that car can't be done during the race.

Great, just fucking great

[jshep]

^^^ x2

[Ballbuster1]

This could be one of my better weeks fantasywise.

Plus Busch not winning is always a bonus.

[Ballbuster1]

JJ for the win. I had 1,2,9 and 19 places. Not bad for me.

[maz]

Congrats BB1

I got no problems with Jimmie

Great driver
Great Team

[Motor Head]

Bowyer still hanging on by his fingertips. Fucking California track, 2.0 miles of boring racing. Looking forward to Richmond, finally something worth watching for 4 hours.

They want to make Cali more interesting, add some more banking and narrow the track. I got my tickets for Kanas City. It's a cookie cutter track, but its only 178 miles from here.

[Beeman99]

they could take Cali, Michigan and Pocono off the schedule for all I care. None of those tracks produce what I'd call good racing, they get so stretched out it's a snooze fest. It turns into nothing more than who hits the marks the best, not who races who better. If it wasn't for the restrictor plates Dega and Daytona would be the same

[Ballbuster1]

Headed to Richmond in the AM. Hope the rain isn't a problem.
I'd rather see the night race than a make up on Sunday.
I'll be in touch.

[Bud8Weiser]

Headed to Richmond in the AM. Hope the rain isn't a problem.
I'd rather see the night race than a make up on Sunday.
I'll be in touch.

Good luck to ya but it doesn't look good for Sat. Probably gonna be a Sun. race.

[Gladys kravitz]

Headed to Richmond in the AM. Hope the rain isn't a problem.
I'd rather see the night race than a make up on Sunday.
I'll be in touch.


Enjoy, hope you get to see the night race rather than a day one.

[bb1mobile]

On the road to Richmond.

Nice and sunny now.

We'll see how it is tomorrow.

[bb1mobile]

Cup race delayed til Sunday at 1 pm

Nationwide will go off at 6:30

[ginaf20697]

Hmmmm, NASCAR or football, which would I rather watch? "whaa"

[Motor Head]

they could take Cali, Michigan and Pocono off the schedule for all I care. None of those tracks produce what I'd call good racing, they get so stretched out it's a snooze fest. It turns into nothing more than who hits the marks the best, not who races who better. If it wasn't for the restrictor plates Dega and Daytona would be the same

I love Daytona and Dega....but it is for more basis reasons. Thier is much more exciting racing at other tracks. I still like to see the "big one" at both tracks. I can't help it, it's the only place I will see a goddamned 20 car pile up and not actually be in the middle of it.

Richmond will be a nail biter for me. Bowyer has got to get into the chase. He has a win this year, and deserves a shot.

[CrewCab]

I can't help it, it's the only place I will see a goddamned 20 car pile up and not actually be in the middle of it.


Nice Carlin quote. :clap:

I wonder how much set-ups had to change for the daytime race. I was figuring it was gonna be pretty interesting start with a clean track, no nationwide race to rubber the track, qualifying on points, and the pressure of the chase for those on the bubble.

[jshep]

way to jr.!!!!!!!!!!

[maz]

Yeah

What a shame :icon_mrgr

[Beeman99]

awwwww Kyle

[Bud8Weiser]

I hurt my throat yelling when Jr took out Cunt, but goddamn it was worth it.

[Beeman99]

I hurt my throat yelling when Jr took out Cunt, but goddamn it was worth it.

x2

and after the race they asked him what happened, this was his comment:

"I got in there too hot, wrecked him, sorry 'bout that, but it's ironic ain't it"

and Smoke is pissed, anyone else watch his in car after the race. wow

[Bud8Weiser]

x2

and after the race they asked him what happened, this was his comment:

"I got in there too hot, wrecked him, sorry 'bout that, but it's ironic ain't it"

and Smoke is pissed, anyone else watch his in car after the race. wow

I also like how Shrub didn't have much to say about it. He knew exactly what it was. Now things are even and they can go about their business.

Yeah I saw that. Smoke was not a happy camper. Blamed the team for it too.

[maxeypad]

YAY! Jeff Gordon actually made a top 10 today! how long has it been?! a looong time!!!

[Motor Head]

Bowyer....IN THE CHASE!!

Tony Stewart is not regretting his decision to leave today. He was a grumpy gus after the race.

[BCH]

Kenseth got himself in but in typical fashion admits they've got alot to do if they're going to go anywhere. I'd start with a win :)

[ginaf20697]

Bowyer....IN THE CHASE!!

Tony Stewart is not regretting his decision to leave today. He was a grumpy gus after the race.

I loved how long it took for them to get that interview. They were probably giving him his meds in the trailer.

[Beeman99]

I loved how long it took for them to get that interview. They were probably giving him his meds in the trailer.

His Hot Pass channel was uncomfortable at the end

[Motor Head]

His Hot Pass channel was uncomfortable at the end
I don't have hot pass, but I do remember last year when he won at Loudon and was panic stricken for the last 5 laps. He was nearly shouting on the radio the car was about to burst into flames, or something just broke and it was tight. Gil just kept saying "your fine, just keep going"

A lot of pressure at Cup level for these guys. Clint is an emotional guy like Tony Stewart.

[Ballbuster1]

Had a good time this weekend. Too bad they didn't run the race on Saturday.
The sun was out by 4:30. They could have run it. I'll post some pics later.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

I missed the race, I was @ the Stiller game, WTF happened to Tony, why was he so pissed?


Edit: Nevermind....


OOOOOOF:

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[Ballbuster1]

Nascar canceled the race by 5 pm on Friday. That was b/s. The rain was done by 3pm
on Saturday. I swear they just didn't want to miss that full day of people buying shit
from the retailers. Lots of merchandise, food and beer wouldn't have been sold if they
still had the race on Saturday.

And why did it start at 1PM and not 11 like most rainouts? They opened the track at
7am so they still got 6 hours of prerace sales in before the race started. Alot of people
were pissed. There were alot of empty seats for a Cup race.

I still had a great time and saw a good race but I think Nascar blew it by not running
the race on Saturday night. Made my drive home a bitch too.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Nascar canceled the race by 5 pm on Friday. That was b/s. The rain was done by 3pm
on Saturday. I swear they just didn't want to miss that full day of people buying shit
from the retailers. Lots of merchandise, food and beer wouldn't have been sold if they
still had the race on Saturday..............................Made my drive home a bitch too.


When we starting to drive south from Pennsylvania/Maryland area I started seeing all the "merch" tractor trailers heading north. Gat damn there were a lot of em.

[Bud8Weiser]

Nascar canceled the race by 5 pm on Friday. That was b/s. The rain was done by 3pm
on Saturday. I swear they just didn't want to miss that full day of people buying shit
from the retailers. Lots of merchandise, food and beer wouldn't have been sold if they
still had the race on Saturday.

And why did it start at 1PM and not 11 like most rainouts? They opened the track at
7am so they still got 6 hours of prerace sales in before the race started. Alot of people
were pissed. There were alot of empty seats for a Cup race.

I still had a great time and saw a good race but I think Nascar blew it by not running
the race on Saturday night. Made my drive home a bitch too.

Its par for the course though. Nascar continually makes the wrong calls on what seems like everything nowadays. Part of the reason there are tons of empty seats when they pan the stands and also the big drop in TV ratings. The fans are finally showing their disgust with the way things are being run. I haven't been to a race since Richmond Fall of 04.

[Beeman99]

I'm guessing that was Smoke's spotter, that didn't sound like Zippy

[Ballbuster1]

Already made my reservations for Atlanta next Labor Day. Finally got enough notice
that I could get a hotel close to the track and not pay out the ass. Should be fun.

[rotten bastard]

gots tickets to nov. o8 phoenix race. anyone else going?

[Motor Head]

I'm in for Phoenix, my wifes best friend just scored us tickets and she has offered to put us up for the weekend.

[rotten bastard]

I'm in for Phoenix, my wifes best friend just scored us tickets and she has offered to put us up for the weekend.

Nice! ill be staying at a hotel in scottsdale. its right next door to a restraunt where most of the cup drivers hang. got to eat some grub and meet rusty in o3. he loved my license plate. then he pointed me out during driver intro before the race.
ill be rolling in there in a jacked up grand cherokee from utah.

[Ballbuster1]

Qualifying rained out again. All the chase drivers start out front.

Got tickets for QVC's For Race Fans Only next Friday night at Delaware State U.
since the race is in Dover next week. Jeff Gordon will be the guest for the show.