2008 New York Mets thread.

[Mother Shucker]

Well, I tried three different searches and could not find a thread for our boys and read some great news that I wanted to share.

Please God, make this happen. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Mets-appear-to-be-front-runner-to-land-Santana?urn=mlb,63768)

[JPetrucci23]

According to USA Today, the Mets have landed Johan Santana

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2008-01-29-twins-mets-santana_N.htm

[Shadow812]

Untill I hear it on MLB.com or mets.com I wont belive it.

[LAX]

Mike and the Mad Dog I believe just reported Santana deal is done....Holy Fuck...

Edit: pending the Mets 48 to 72 hour window to agree to an extension

[JMCC]

Hard not to get excited, but fuck it, when i heard it i was screaming like a little girl.

Santana
Martinez
Maine
Perez
El Duque

Holy shit, i'm excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[buya97]

I was not looking forward to the season this year....HOLY SHIT! How things can change in a mere hours! :icon_lol::icon_lol:

[badcellphoneguy]

If its true. Congrats to all Mets fans.

[SuperGolfer]

Awesome Awesome Awesome!!!

[LAX]

Being reported as breaking news all over ESPN and all the local NY news stations...But I won't believe it till the press conference

[JPetrucci23]

Lose Glavine, gain Santana....... WOW

EDIT: Holy shit its on Mets.com!!!!!

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l248/j_lukes/metsjohan.jpg?t=1201645537

[fandango86]

Show him the f-ing money. If this falls through because they can't negotiate an extension, their september collapse will look moderate in terms of embarassment.

[Mother Shucker]

You think Santana gives up a gazillion runs in 1/3 of an inning in a must have game? I say not.

Way to go Omar. Let's go Mets.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

As a Yankees fan, I'm glad the Mets got him. I didn't want the Yanks to give up Hughes or Kennedy to get him, but I also didn't want to see him in Boston. I'd much rather see him in a Mets uniform than Boston.

[buya97]

http://www.geocities.com/buya97/santana.JPG

I can picture it right now, lol

[sd187]

Wow. I'm in shock. Thank God the Twins didn't take teh yanks or sox far superior offers.

[OandA_Chris]

The best news I have heard in a really long time. I am hearing good things that a deal will be reached.

[JOHNNY HAIRDO]

I'm sure they'll get a deal done, but being a Mets fan I'm expecting a Mulvey to fail a physical.

[LAX]

Show him the f-ing money. If this falls through because they can't negotiate an extension, their september collapse will look moderate in terms of embarassment.


Exactly:clap:

[buya97]

he's the KKKing of Queens!

[domelogic]

wow this trade will hurt alot. you fuckers just made my offseason worse than it was by the phils doing nothing. i hope it falls through but since i dont think so, nice pickup

[GoldenOne]

The fact that Omar got this done without giving up F-Mart of Pelfrey is fucking amazing.

Bravo, Omar.

[The NoVA Kid]

They made a good deal in getting Ryan Church and that one Nationals catcher. But besides that they haven't really done much to improve the pitching situation...This is a very good day!

[mik3]

The fact that Omar got this done without giving up F-Mart of Pelfrey is fucking amazing.

Bravo, Omar.
He gave up your 2-3-4-6 rated prospects for him. It's a good deal, and he got him for less than Boston and New York were offering, but a system that's already had a lot of players traded away just had some more.

[Jerry1]

Nice to see Minaya not freeze on making this deal. There was rumblings that either the Mariners or Orioles might have gotten involved but thankfully Omar jumped on him before they were able to formulate an offer.
I kept saying that Minaya needed to make this deal not only to fill Glavine's spot but he needed something to take that bad taste left by the big collapse of 07 and give the fans hope and something to be excited about again.
By picking him up he does just that.



I might be making a trip to ole Port Saint Lucie this March.
Nice to have friends down there...

[CM Mark]

I'll try to keep it calm and collected for my excitment that we got Santana

W00T! W00T! MOTHER FUCKING W00T W00T W00T!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fandango86]

So if I understand the chronology of events:

The Yankees offered Hughes, Cabrera, and a third prospect that was NOT to be Chamberlain or Kennedy. So their #2 prospect and a marginal major leaguer.

The Red Sox offered two combinations - Jon Lester, Coco Crisp, and Jed Lowrie. Their 3rd and 5th best prospects and a marginal major leaguer. This one with the added bonus of having a higher than deserved salary. OR Jacoby Elsbury, Justin Masterson, and Lowrie. Their 2nd, 4th, and 5th best prospects. I think this was the best offer the Twins got, if they really got it. I'm not sure the Sox were ever really going to give this package up when it came down to it.

The Mets offered the package that got the deal done - their 2, 3, 4 and 6th best prospects. Quantity and quality.

The Yankees and Red Sox get pissed that they are being played against each other and pull Hughes and Ellsbury off the table.

The Mariners reach a tentative agreement to send their #1 prospect, Adam Jones, and another player to the Orioles for Eric Bedard.

Santana tells the Twins 'trade me now or I'll veto any trade after the start of spring training.'

The Twins go back to the Yanks and Sox and tell them since the Mariners parted with their #1, they would have to put Hughes/Chamberlain and Bucholz/Ellsbury back on the table respectively. Both teams tell them to fuck off.

Omar gets the phone call he's known has been coming all winter. Fan-fucking-tastic job by the best GM in the National League.

[demonseed]

I am so fucking elated.. But I am holding my breath until the reach an agreement on an extension.

Also, does anyone know what happened to the rumblings that the Mets were also about to sign Livan Hernandez. He might make a good set up guy for Wagner.

[fandango86]

Livan is an innings whore. No way they use him in relief. If they sign him at this point it will be only as insurance for when Pedro and El Duque get hurt. I really think that was a partial smoke screen to try to pressure the Twins to pull the trigger.

[demonseed]

Good point fandango. I Didnt even think that they were using him as a ploy to get the Twins to make the trade.

[Mother Shucker]

Yeah, I think Livan was a back up plan. A poor back up plan, but a back up plan none the less. Putting the best pitcher in baseball at the top of our rotation to go with a pretty damn good lineup has me so jazzed for 08' I am almost ready to stop obsessing over the last two seasons disappointments.

[Budyzir]

This is just the kind of trade that starts easing my September rage. I might just pull out of storage all my Mets gear. I haven't worn a Mets jersey, shirt or cap since September.

[buya97]

It felt so great today, adding Santana to my Mets team in MLB 2K7, AWESOME!

[buya97]

According to the USA Today, they are reporting that the Mets are close to signing an extention with Santana, for 5-6 yrs at 21.5 million a year with a significant signing bonus to make him make 20 mil for 2008.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2008-01-31-santanaupdate-mlb_N.htm

[LAX]

Once the Santana deal is done the Mets are rumored to also be after Kyle Loshe

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3224116

[buya97]

Once the Santana deal is done the Mets are rumored to also be after Kyle Loshe

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3224116


Thats a great idea, and get el duque in the pen...cause you KNOW he'll break down sometime this year coming up

[buya97]

props to who ever left the frunkis in the metsblog.com comment section

[blinkdmb]

Tick Tock Tick Tock....

[Redding]

newyorkmets.com is reporting the deadline has been expanded 2 hours.....should know whats going on around 7

[MAVRIC305]

They better get this fucking deal done. It would be so heart-breaking to Mets fans after being so happy about the trade. Only 33 minutes to go...

[MAVRIC305]

Deal Done!

[Mother Shucker]

Great news.

[Mother Shucker]

OK Willie, it is now on you. If this team does not win the NL pennant you might as well put on your walking shoes.

[LAX]

please pass physical please pass physical

[Jerry1]

Now that that's out of the way and all that's left is the routine physical, all that needs to be said is this....

OH ROLLINS!!!
http://beerleaguer.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/rollins.jpg
COME OUT AND PLAYAYY!!!!

[Aero 1]

please pass physical please pass physical

x2

[buya97]

who would you want as ur #5, Livan or Loshe?

[Aero 1]

who would you want as ur #5, Livan or Loshe?

bedard

[Aizazzle]

Congratulations to you Mets fans for getting arguably the best pitcher in the game. Even though I hate your team, as a baseball fan, I congratulate you guys for getting a franchise changing player in Santana and locking him up for 6 more years.


God that was painful to type....

[mik3]

Remember though, Mets fans, the Yankees buy all their players and trade all their prospects.

[Mother Shucker]

Remember though, Mets fans, the Yankees buy all their players and trade all their prospects.

Aww, sorry, you lose out on the best pitcher in baseball. Now go sign another bat for your lineup and get another Randy Johnson for your rotation.

[mik3]

Aww, sorry, you lose out on the best pitcher in baseball. Now go sign another bat for your lineup and get another Randy Johnson for your rotation.
Or actually produce pitchers with your system, not throw them all away. Sorry, Kennedy+Hughes value for next year will be higher than Santana's.

[Jerry1]

Or actually produce pitchers with your system, not throw them all away. Sorry, Kennedy+Hughes value for next year will be higher than Santana's.

We still got Pelfrey and Maine(15 wins in his first full year if I'm not mistaken) and still got to keep the prized prospect Martinez who the Twins originally wanted for Santana.

They say there in no garauntee Kennedy or Hughes will work out. Also there is still the possibility Cashman may trade off one of them for somebody big during the season. Santana is just hitting the prime of his career so the Mets will get the most out of that and when hew starts going downhill his contract should be up by then.
That is why the Mets went six for Santana and not for Zito. They saw a good five or six years in Santana, not so many for Zito(what was his numbers last year anyway?).

However, in my opinion the Yanks did the right thing not giving up Chamberlain, Hughes or Kennedy for Santana. The Yankees rotation was in bad shape last year and those three are the big hope. Don't know how well they'll pitch this year but if they stick around a few years I think they'll become something good.
In the Mets case, they needed a frontline starter to fill the hole Glavine left behind. That was pretty much the major concern this off season and they addressed it fully. And with minimal cost(Besides Gomez, nobody we'll really miss). Besides that, Minaya had to do something to fire up the fans and the team after that big collapse of 07. Getting Santana sure has fired up the fans already(and its only Feburary!)
All the experts were saying that players the Mets sent to Minnesota may have not gotten much playing time and may have not worked out to begin with. However trading for somebody proven and is in his prime, like Santana, was the wise move in this case.

[Mother Shucker]

And don't forget blow Joba. He is unhittable. Of course, unless the bugs come and get him.

[mik3]

Yeah, Baltimore Orioles draft pick John Maine and Mike Pelfrey that couldn't get me out last year. There's a good comparison to Hughes and Kennedy heh.

Have fun with your week on the back pages, it'll go back to normal again once the season starts.

[Jerry1]

Yeah, Baltimore Orioles draft pick John Maine and Mike Pelfrey that couldn't get me out last year. There's a good comparison to Hughes and Kennedy heh.

Have fun with your week on the back pages, it'll go back to normal again once the season starts.

Yep!

Especially with all those great off season pickups you guys made.....oh wait a sec.....

[mik3]

Yep!

Especially with all those great off season pickups you guys made.....oh wait a sec.....
Signed the best free agent available. And see, here's the thing, you don't need to sign people when you build a farm system like the Yankees have done since 04. But really a 94 win team that killed the league in runs scored and had a pythag record of another 3 wins on top of that really had a ton of holes to fill.

Now the Mets are pretty much the 01-04 Yankees.

I understand you guys though, if I was a fan of the little brother team I'd try everything I could to put big brother down.

Also, GJ ignoring the terrible Maine/Pelfrey to Hughes/Kennedy comparison being called out.

[Jerry1]

Signed the best free agent available. And see, here's the thing, you don't need to sign people when you build a farm system like the Yankees have done since 04. But really a 94 win team that killed the league in runs scored and had a pythag record of another 3 wins on top of that really had a ton of holes to fill.

Now the Mets are pretty much the 01-04 Yankees.

I understand you guys though, if I was a fan of the little brother team I'd try everything I could to put big brother down.

Also, GJ ignoring the terrible Maine/Pelfrey to Hughes/Kennedy comparison being called out.

Yankees farm system? That's a new concept for them isn't it?

Glad the Yankees finally saw the advantage in a farm system because it brings up good young players much cheaper instead of trading away or signing for old has beens or ones that don't work out(Randy Johnson, Pavano, Giambi, etc.). It worked for the Mets (Reyes, Wright, Chavez, Maine, Pelfrey) and it worked for the Yanks back in 96 (Jeter, Petite, Rivera, Williams).
Now to be honest, losing Humbar, Guerra and Mulvey for Santana is nothing compared to losing Hughes, Kennedy and/or Chamberlain. Now, with maybe the exception of Gomez, The Mets didn't lose much and got one of the best pitchers in the majors in his prime(and not on the decline like ole Johnson or Clemens!).

It's funny. If it was the Yankees who made the deal all the fans would be pretty much be saying what I'm saying now and all us Met fans would be using the arguement stated above plus the old "Buying a championship" arguement(How's that worked out for them lately anyway?).

So I can understand the Yank's fan arguement that the "other" team got the player they wanted and I needed to poke holes in the "other" team's joy and bring them down.

[Jerry1]

And don't forget blow Joba. He is unhittable. Of course, unless the bugs come and get him.

Stupid bugs!
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20071006/capt.23c6c82174554232a867eb2f8469c661.aptopix_yank ees_indians_baseball_ohmd118.jpg
(Doesn't he sorta resemble a young Babe Ruth?)

[FullBallz]

The Mets were able to make the trade the Yankees wanted to make. The Twins knew that if they traded him to an AL team they were going to ask for Major League quality back. But since he's in the NL now it's like the ostrich syndrome. He's not here so let's not worry about him. Kudos to the Mets for getting this deal done. This is what they have needed all along. Would the Yankees have benefitted from getting him? Of course they would. He's a lefty in the ballpark. It would be great. But the Yanks I feel did the right thing holding onto the big 3 (Not Generation K..LINGERRRRRRR mets fans) and not doing what they did the past 6 years. You saw this year what you can do when you draft and develop right. Melky may always be a 7/8 hitter but when he gives it his all and never gives up on balls in CF I will gladly take that. But this is the Mets fans' day. Enjoy it now friends. Hopefully he doesn't fuck up his elbow or shoulder.

[Jerry1]

The Mets were able to make the trade the Yankees wanted to make. The Twins knew that if they traded him to an AL team they were going to ask for Major League quality back. But since he's in the NL now it's like the ostrich syndrome. He's not here so let's not worry about him. Kudos to the Mets for getting this deal done. This is what they have needed all along. Would the Yankees have benefitted from getting him? Of course they would. He's a lefty in the ballpark. It would be great. But the Yanks I feel did the right thing holding onto the big 3 (Not Generation K..LINGERRRRRRR mets fans) and not doing what they did the past 6 years. You saw this year what you can do when you draft and develop right. Melky may always be a 7/8 hitter but when he gives it his all and never gives up on balls in CF I will gladly take that. But this is the Mets fans' day. Enjoy it now friends. Hopefully he doesn't fuck up his elbow or shoulder.


Generation K???? (Dueche Chills)

[Mother Shucker]

Wow, the Yankee fans are REALLY bitter that we got the golden ticket this year, huh?

I got a golden ticket................

[mik3]

Nobody's bitter. Yankee fans didn't want to give up much better talent, which is what the Twins wanted to keep him in the AL, for one player to then pay him way too much for a pitcher. Every 5 days is not worth the second highest salary in the sport.

And yeah, the Yankees' system did suck for a couple years, but now it's regularly one of the best in the league. Two years in a row with a top three prospect in all of baseball. Now the Mets are pretty much Martinez, who's as good as Tabata and Jackson, and nothing else.

[Aero 1]

why cant you people understand that the twins had no choice to trade with the mets. they didnt want to trade with the mets, they knew the mets were going to give them garbage. santana wanted to go to the mets, IT WAS HIS CHOICE. he said no to the yankees and no to boston, the twins wanted to trade with them.

JOHAN HELD THE TRUMP CARD!!!! he told the twins the only place he wanted to go and he told the mets how much it will take to keep him. omar knew this and threw in garbage in order to show everyone that he is the best GM out there and save his pathetic job because he was not offered an extension after this year like he wanted.

[mik3]

Johan's agent everyone.

He said he wanted to play somewhere with a high hispanic population.

It's funny how all of Santana's friends were leaking to the media that he wanted to go to Boston or NYY a month+ ago. And how he was excited when he heard Boston had the top bid.

[LAX]

Yep!

Especially with all those great off season pickups you guys made.....oh wait a sec.....


B..bu...but they signed morgan enisberg:haha7::haha7::haha7:

[Jerry1]

B..bu...but they signed morgan enisberg:haha7::haha7::haha7:

Yeah, did they?

Hey, hats off to the Yankees for not just spending and trading before they saw what they got already. That's the stategy they took that took them out of the duldrums of the 80's(miss those years!) into the powerhouse championship team of the late 90's. They brought up key guys and traded for a few others and it was done. The hard part for them was keeping up with it.
I think down the road with guys like Wang, Chamberlain and Hughes developing and coming on to the rotation they should be fine(long term that is). They should not feel bitter about our major pickup.

Now I wanna see how he does against them pesky Phillies!!

[Tax Kuntz]

3h-iurHfqls

[Mother Shucker]

3h-iurHfqls

TK, why?

[Tax Kuntz]

TK, why?

Cause the Mets got Johan Santana :action-sm

[OandA_Chris]

With the new stadium and the fairly new tv deal. They have the money to spend why not spend it. They were in a huge need of an Ace and Johan is the best pitch in baseball. The Mets have the tools to win this year. Its a no brainer.

[Swamp CAve]

Cause the Mets got Johan Santana :action-sm

and he's gonna make hitters look like Hannah Montana....... ;p

[JMCC]

Wow, the Yankee fans are REALLY bitter that we got the golden ticket this year, huh?

I got a golden ticket................

Pretty much.

Keep thinking that Hughes is the second coming of Clemens, when in fact after last years injury he could be the next Kerry Wood or Mark Prior...

As for Melky, there's a reason the Twins didn't want him even though they need a CF, he is the CF of the Yankees by default. Gomez on the other has so much more upside than Melky is not even funny. As the starting CF of the Twins, Gomez will put up better numbers than Melky.

Bottom line is the players the Mets traded were not going to help the Mets THIS year, with Gomez being the only exemption. Santana on the other hand makes the Mets rotation deeper, better and the best team in NL.

[Eagle.007]

Go Mets, Go.

Red Sox / Mets in the World Series

[RMM46]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23101098/

Celizic: Trade puts big pressure on Mets to win now
Santana’s a great acquisition, but hardly an iron-clad pennant guarantee
OPINION
By Mike Celizic
updated 8:40 p.m. ET, Sun., Feb. 10, 2008
The headline on a Sunday story on New York Newsday’s Web site sounds like a statement, but it’s really nothing more than wishful thinking: “Mets ready to put collapse behind them.”

Talk about surprises. What else can they say? “Mets ready to find new way to choke?”

When last we saw the New York Mets, they were carving out a bit of unhappy history for themselves, becoming the only team ever to blow a seven-game lead with 17 games to play. It was as awful as awful gets, with the only good thing about it being that it made fans forget about 2006, when all the Mets did was blow the NLCS to the Cardinals.

Every team reports to camp with its bags packed full of hope and optimism. But there’s not a team in baseball that’s under more pressure to deliver on its promise than the Mets.

You can argue that’s not true, that the Tigers, Mariners, Dodgers, Cubs, Red Sox, Yankees, Indians and any other team you care to name is under the same pressure. But let’s be honest here. The Mets are the proud owners of the third-highest payroll in baseball. Their general manager, Omar Minaya is supposed to be the smartest guy to draw breath since Einstein. Their line-up is packed with power. And now they’ve subtracted the ancient Tom Glavine from their rotation and replaced him with Johan Santana, a two-time Cy Young winner.

These guys have to get to the playoffs — there’s no fall-back position on that mandate. And, if they get there, they’re going to be called failures if they don’t also make it to the World Series.

Not even the Yankees are under that pressure. Hank Steinbrenner, who’s taken over baseball operations from his father, George III, has been saying since the end of the 2007 season that the Yankees are rebuilding and aren’t demanding total victory this year.

While the Red Sox are expecting great things again, they won the World Series last year for the second time in four seasons; if things don’t work out, that glow isn’t going to evaporate. And the other teams that hope to contend have a bit more perspective — forced on them by harsh experience — than to start singing the win-or-else song.

The Mets don’t have those luxuries. For three years now, they’ve been built to win — now. And for the past two seasons, when they’ve faced their moments of truth, they’ve been found lacking in ways that go a lot deeper than one starting pitcher.


Santana’s a great acquisition, but he’s hardly an iron-clad pennant guarantee. We remember him for his Cy Young seasons in 2004 and 2006 when he was probably the best pitcher in baseball. But last year he was just 5-7 in the second half of the season and 15-13 overall. His ERA on the season was 3.33, which should translate to sub-3.00 in the National League, where there’s no designated hitter to contend with. But in the second half, it was 4.04, 0.7 of a run higher.


One assumes that playing in New York, a stage he’s always wanted to perform on, and being on a new team will propel him back to his Cy Young form. But even if he reaches that level, the Mets still have a lot of questions to answer.

The team is essentially the same as last year’s with the exception of catcher Brian Schneider, who replaced Paul Lo Duca, and outfielder Ryan Church, who will fill Shawn Green’s role. That means the same pitching staff that didn’t get it done last year is back, including Orlando Hernandez, who could be 50 years old for all anyone knows and isn’t going to make it through the season without three or four trips to the DL. And backing up that staff is closer Billy Wagner, a modern-day Armando Benitez who saves every game except the ones that truly matter.

Lest we put too much pressure on Wagner, let’s not forget an offense that includes Carlos Delgado and Carlos Beltran. Both can be premier hitters, and both have also been accused of wilting under pressure.

Delgado is one of the guys saying the Mets are going to erase the bad taste of last year. He’s talked about playing hard and being more focused. But that’s like that headline about the team being ready to put 2007 behind them — what else can he say?

Talk is all we have right now, and it’s all we will have until the season actually begins in April. That doesn’t mean it still isn’t as cheap as it ever was. The reality is the Mets have been talking a good game for three years now, and they have yet to live up to their rhetoric.

Philadelphia is ready to give them a run. Atlanta is always dangerous. And the power in the NL last year shifted dramatically to the West. When people talk about toughness, they talk about the comebacks the Phillies and Rockies put on last year. When they talk about softness and disappointment, they talk about the Mets.

They’ve got to win. Not next year or the year after, but now.

Mike Celizic writes regularly for msnbc.com and is a freelance writer based in New York.
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23101098/

[JMCC]

Beltran speaks up

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- Carlos Beltran walked into Mets camp on Saturday, took a seat on the dugout bench and said exactly what was on his mind.

"To Jimmy Rollins: We are the team to beat."

It was unprompted, unscripted and completely unexpected. But with those nine words, Beltran instantly renewed his team's rivalry with the Phillies and assumed a new level of leadership with the Mets. The usually quiet and reserved center fielder, perhaps emboldened by his team's offseason acquisition of Johan Santana, stepped out of character -- and there's no reversing that now.

"Let me tell you this," Beltran said. "Without Santana, we felt, as a team, that we had a chance to win in our division. With him now, I have no doubt that we're going to win in our division. I have no doubt in that. We've got what it takes."

The statement was as much a product of his own confidence as it was a response to Phillies shortstop Jimmy Rollins, who last winter proclaimed that his team was the one to beat -- and then backed it up on the field.

Perhaps the greatest surprise was that Beltran, and not some other Met, made the statement. Normally quiet and unassuming off the field, Beltran has managed to mostly avoid the spotlight during his first three years in New York.

Now, that won't be so easy.

"It takes a special person to be able to do that," closer Billy Wagner said. "Now you have to lead. You have to stand there and take the punches in the bad games, and you have to be there to answer the questions and deal with it."

Beltran knows it, too. Minutes after making his comments -- in response to a question regarding his thoughts on Santana -- he acknowledged that he's now bound to become a popular enemy in Philadelphia.

"I don't care," Beltran said. "They boo me in Houston. One more city won't make a difference."

Rollins became a target in New York last season even before the Phillies and Mets first met -- and even before he made a critical fielding error during the home opener at Shea, which sent Mets fans into something of a frenzy. Then he spent the rest of the summer silencing those same fans, winning the National League Most Valuable Player Award while leading his Phillies to the NL East title.

Yet Rollins, unlike Beltran, was already a vocal leader of his team. The Mets went largely without a similar voice last season -- perhaps until now. And while Beltran's teammates may agree with his prediction, they're not about to state it so boldly.

"There's no use in us showing up if we don't believe that we are that type of team," Wagner said. "For me, I don't think I would ever go out and say it just because I believe in going out there on the field and doing it, but hey, you know what? He's my teammate. I got his back."

"We have inner confidence," third baseman David Wright said. "You're not going to find anyone in here who doesn't think we're going to win the National League East. But different guys have different motivations or ways to pump up their team."

Still, Wright disagreed in principle, saying that because they won last year, the Phillies remain the team to beat. Maybe the Mets have improved on paper, but they haven't yet proved it on the field. Not until September can they truly prove their point.

"I've said all along, I have the utmost confidence in this team to win," Wright said. "But just personally, I don't feel the need to declare anything. Talk is cheap when you're talking about February."

Manager Willie Randolph simply laughed at the comments, attributing them to Beltran's first child, four-month-old Ivana.

"I guess when you have a little baby girl," Randolph said, "it gives you confidence."

Now Beltran must be confident, whether he wants to or not. He directed his boldness at a player who's already plenty bold himself, and in doing so stamped a sizeable target on his back.

There's a chance he'll again fade into the background, just as there's a chance this new outspoken Beltran is here to stay. Either way, on Saturday, he ramped one of the NL's most impassioned rivalries to a new level of contention.

Looks like Santana got Beltran to come out of his shell...

[Budyzir]

Beltran speaks up



Looks like Santana got Beltran to come out of his shell...

AND (!) hopefully will get him into solid hitting groove. In my gut, I thinking this trade may have fired up the whole clubhouse. No evidence, just a gut feeling.

Hell, even after the whole September debacle, I'm now considering an opportunity to drop a ton of cash into partnership with several friends for field level season tickets. I got a feeling. :icon_bigg

[CM Mark]

AND (!) hopefully will get him into solid hitting groove. In my gut, I thinking this trade may have fired up the whole clubhouse. No evidence, just a gut feeling.

Hell, even after the whole September debacle, I'm now considering an opportunity to drop a ton of cash into partnership with several friends for field level season tickets. I got a feeling. :icon_bigg

As good of a year I think the Mets are going to have, September still tugs at my mind.

[JMCC]

I'm still debating on whether I should buy the Sunday plan again, i had the chance to renew my seats from last season, but I wanted Loge seats instead of Mezz, however the sales rep told me that he didn't have any seats on Loge anymore, so I told him no. A couple of days later I checked Mets.com and they have Loge seats available. I'm still pissed about that, why the fuck did he lie...

[Mother Shucker]

I would get the tix if you really want them. Just because a tool employee gave you bad info, you should not punish yourself.

[Budyzir]

As good of a year I think the Mets are going to have, September still tugs at my mind.

Yes it does sir, yes it does.

[RMM46]

I don't wanna hear shit from Mr.-Stare-at-Strike-3-in-Game-7.

If he's going to run his mouth and call out Rollins, then go out and win the MVP like Rollins did and carry this team to the post-season.

I'm just sick of hearing from them. All they know how to do is talk. Then when the pressure is on, they fold like a tent.

And it's good to see Reyes is toning his act down. He became way too much of a clown last year.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spmets205584499feb20,0,6703213.story

[Mother Shucker]

Hmmmm, I am filling up just thinking about this:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/rustytrombone1027/metspicturesSmall.jpg

[VilleDick]

I can't wait for this season, you guys should have a great shot at the wildcard :action-sm

[cknight725]

4-4 Tie against M-go-Blue?! Granted its spring training, but it wasn't a split squad game!

Not lookin good ....

[Mother Shucker]

4-4 Tie against M-go-Blue?! Granted its spring training, but it wasn't a split squad game!

Not lookin good ....
OMG, they tied? :rolleyes:

Santana looked pretty decent today.

[Mother Shucker]

4-4 Tie against M-go-Blue?! Granted its spring training, but it wasn't a split squad game!

Not lookin good ....

They just won there fifth in a row, World Series bound?:rolleyes:

[JMCC]

Down goes Alou, I didn't see this one coming :rolleyes:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2008/03/05/2008-03-05_moises_alou_diagnosed_with_hernia_could_.html

If I'm the trainer I wouldn't be too happy with all these injuries :p

[CM Mark]

Down goes Alou, I didn't see this one coming :rolleyes:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2008/03/05/2008-03-05_moises_alou_diagnosed_with_hernia_could_.html

If I'm the trainer I wouldn't be too happy with all these injuries :p

At least they are getting the injuries out of the way in the preseason. Let's just hope that this doesn't continue in the regular season

[Mother Shucker]

This is horse shit. Can't anyone around here play this game without getting hurt?

[The NoVA Kid]

I'm very excited to see what the Hispanic Connection can do this year....our bullpen really needs to step it up this year

[Tax Kuntz]

So Pagan is presumably starting in LF? Could be worse, he hustles.

Who is #5 starter? Sounds like Sosa might get it by default.

Who's catching? Both are still slowed, and plan C,D & E are Casanova or Cancel or Molina? Isn't there a backup catcher somewhere that may get cut? What's Piazza doing?

I like the bench, with Easley, M. Anderson, Gotay & Chavez. Problem there is no back-up 1B. Still need a righty power bat.

John Maine playing for a big contract. With a good year...say 17-10, he gets 4 years at 8 million each.

[JMCC]

I think Pelfrey will get the last spot, not Sosa.

Last I heard Piazza was thinking of playing in Japan.

Gotay was put on waivers, hopefully he clears.

Maine looks great.

[frankjg]

Am I going crazy or were the mets supposed to open up Sunday night against Washington in their new stadium?

[Fred Told Me]

That was rumored a while back but the Mets balked at the idea of going there for one game and then flying back to Florida for their series against the Marlins.

[Mother Shucker]

Let's go Mets!

[JPetrucci23]

Johan!

[domelogic]

opening day is upon us. good luck this year and hopefully we will get to see some good mets/phils baseball

[Mother Shucker]

I actually had a "discussion" with someone this weekend who was trying to tell me the Mets have a bad offense. They may not have the best lineup in MLB, but bad?

[JMCC]

Less than 2 hours to find out how bad our offense really is...

Can't wait till Santana strikes out the side in the first :D

[JPetrucci23]

Johan!

:clap::D:haha7::D:clap::clap::D:clap::haha7::D

[TheJew]

awesome game today. hopefully johan can do that all year.

JMCC...i just watched your sig about 30 times i love it

[JMCC]

It was a great start, Johan made it look easy.

Pedro goes tonight and I'm sure he will try to prove he's still a legit ace.

[Papagolash]

Ahhh there we go. jmcc who is that in your sig?

[The NoVA Kid]

Anyone know where i can get the online stream for the games?

[mik3]

What's Pedro's injury?

[Shpadoinkle]

What's Pedro's injury?

Cohen just said preliminary reports are strained hamstring, day to day. So basically we will see Pedro again in September.

[mik3]

Yeah, Hamstrings = at least a month or two. Especially since if they say it's strained, it's probably slightly torn.

[JMCC]

Its only April and usually the Mets don't carry 5 pitchers so is not time to hit the panic button yet. I got to say though, having Johan makes this easier to take.

Papagolash, her name is Hayden Panettiere

[JMCC]

Update metsblog.com
…the buzz from Miami suggests that Pedro Martinez’s injury may not be as bad as initially feared…still, i believe he may be put on the disabled list, for precautionary purposes, and he’ll be replaced on the roster by Nelson Figueroa…

During an appearance on ESPN 1050, Andrew Marchand said he sat next to Martinez on his flight back to New York.

According to Marchand, Martinez did not walk with a limp, and said he feels ‘fine,’ though he will not know if a trip to the disabled list is necessary until after this morning’s MRI.

[CM Mark]

BAD call right there. That was totally a home run. Fucking umpire conference. The initial call was correct

[CM Mark]

It was a great start, Johan made it look easy.

Pedro goes tonight and I'm sure he will try to prove he's still a legit ace.

Pedro hasn't been a legit ace since before he came to the Mets.

[JPetrucci23]

Pedro hasn't been a legit ace since before he came to the Mets.


I disagree with that, 15-8, 2.82 ERA, WHIP under 1, ERA+ of 145, 208 k's in 2005, first year with the Mets. Those are legit ace #'s

[The NoVA Kid]

good to see Church and Wright get their first homers of the season...and as i check the score we have 11...wow

[CM Mark]

I disagree with that, 15-8, 2.82 ERA, WHIP under 1, ERA+ of 145, 208 k's in 2005, first year with the Mets. Those are legit ace #'s

Okay. One year out of three so far. I really hope this injury is more serious than they think though. I am NOT a Pedro fan

[fandango86]

Okay. One year out of three so far. I really hope this injury is more serious than they think though. I am NOT a Pedro fan

You hope the injury is serious? Are you insane? Were you hoping they were going to use Nelson Figueroa as a starter until El Duque gets back? And beyond that, were you hoping for 4-6 weeks of disastrous Mike Pelfrey? Actually, I guess you're hoping for him for the whole season because you're not a fan of one of the greatest pitchers in the history of the game? I guess that's ok if you want to play .500 ball through the All Star Break, but as a Mets fan, I was kind of hoping for a better start to the season than that.

[CM Mark]

but as a Mets fan, I was kind of hoping for a better start to the season than that.

2-1 is a bad start? "whaa" We out scored the Marlins 24-7 in the first three games. That's a bad start? Sure, we lost the second game, but Pedro was starting, how many people were really surprised by that? Honestly. You sound more like a Yankees fan than a Mets fan there Fandango. Calm down, Johan did great, Perez did great. Maine will do fine tomorrow. This season is going to go great, with or without, preferably without from my point of view, Pedro or El Duque.

[Budyzir]

Just got back form today's game. Perez was solid but the bullpen sucked. During the player introductions Schoeneweis was loudly booed and he validated those boos when he came out in relief.

On a better note, the new stadium looks great.

[JMCC]

Pretty sloppy game, but a win is a win.

[Mother Shucker]

Yep, a win is a win.

[JMCC]

SAFE!

Pagan is really making me forget about Alou's injury, i think if he keeps playing like that, there is no way Willie can bench him once ALou returns...

[CM Mark]

SAFE!

Pagan is really making me forget about Alou's injury, i think if he keeps playing like that, there is no way Willie can bench him once ALou returns...

Pagan may be my favorite pick up of this off season, including Santana. His numbers in the first 8 games of the season are fucking phenominal. Here's his numbers for his career. http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_stats_player.jsp?c_id=mlb&playerID=434636

This kid's got a good future in the blue and orange

[fandango86]

2-1 is a bad start? "whaa" We out scored the Marlins 24-7 in the first three games. That's a bad start? Sure, we lost the second game, but Pedro was starting, how many people were really surprised by that? Honestly. You sound more like a Yankees fan than a Mets fan there Fandango. Calm down, Johan did great, Perez did great. Maine will do fine tomorrow. This season is going to go great, with or without, preferably without from my point of view, Pedro or El Duque.


What I was trying to say is that they're likely only a .500 team without Pedro and El Duque, and I was hoping for better than .500 ball from this team this year. So far, that's what we're getting. Luckily the Braves also have injury problems with their rotation and the Phillies are doing what they Phillies do in April.

As for me sounding like a Yankees fan, I'm the biggest Mets fan ever. I love every player on their roster, but I will acknowledge their faults and shortcomings. Hating on Pedro certainly makes you sound more like a Yankees fan. Most Yanks fans can't stand him for pwning Don Zimmer, which is of course why he will always be my favorite baseball player of all time.

Seriously, what's not to love about Pedro? He's the most charasmatic player of his generation, and is the second best non-enhanced pitcher of his time, behind only Maddux IMO. Is it just the injury-prone-ness? Gotta think you expected that when the Mets signed him. They were widely criticized for the deal for that very reason.

[CM Mark]

What I was trying to say is that they're likely only a .500 team without Pedro and El Duque, and I was hoping for better than .500 ball from this team this year. So far, that's what we're getting. Luckily the Braves also have injury problems with their rotation and the Phillies are doing what they Phillies do in April.

As for me sounding like a Yankees fan, I'm the biggest Mets fan ever. I love every player on their roster, but I will acknowledge their faults and shortcomings. Hating on Pedro certainly makes you sound more like a Yankees fan. Most Yanks fans can't stand him for pwning Don Zimmer, which is of course why he will always be my favorite baseball player of all time.

Seriously, what's not to love about Pedro? He's the most charasmatic player of his generation, and is the second best non-enhanced pitcher of his time, behind only Maddux IMO. Is it just the injury-prone-ness? Gotta think you expected that when the Mets signed him. They were widely criticized for the deal for that very reason.

I've just never liked Pedro. Didn't like him on the Red Sox. Did NOT like the deal when they signed him. And I agree with you about the Zimmer thing. Only good thing he's ever done.

And I think we'll have to agree to disagree on the sounding like a Yankee fan thing. I don't think I sound like one. I'm speaking my dislike for a player on the team I root for that I have never liked. He could come back tomorrow, throw lights out ball the rest of the season, go 26-1, 5 perfect games, and I still wouldn't like him. Yankee fans are fair weather when it comes to shit like that. Someone sucks for one game they will rip him a new one, but the next day when he goes 5-5 with 3 home runs, they'll be lined up to suck his cock.

[Mother Shucker]

I hope Sanchez helps this bullpen. I really thought they would be doing better then this. Still early though.

[Mother Shucker]

Let's get on a roll boys. Sheets will be tough, he has been lights out so far.

[Perch1019]

Kinda odd to hear he fell over the railing while walking down.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3349003

NEW YORK -- A man attending a New York Mets game with his family lost his balance on an escalator and fell two stories to his death, police said.

Antonio Nararainsami, 36, and several relatives, including his two young daughters, were leaving the stadium at the end of Tuesday night's game against the Washington Nationals when he fell in a section below the left field stands and landed on a concrete floor. Nararainsami, a Guyanese native who lived in Brooklyn, was taken to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead half an hour later.

Kevin Prashad, a cousin who attended the game, said Nararainsami was walking down the escalator, which wasn't moving, and was holding the hand rail when he "lost his footing."

The Mets said in a statement that they had been "advised of a tragic accident that resulted in the death of a fan." They said team officials and police were investigating.

"Our deepest and heartfelt condolences go out to the fan's family," the team's statement said.

The death of Nararainsami, who was wearing a Mets cap when he fell, appeared to be an accident, and no charges had been filed, police said.

Nararainsami installed heating and air conditioning systems for a living, loved sports and was the captain of a local cricket club, his relatives said. His wife, pregnant with their third child, had stayed home while he attended the game.

Nararainsami's death wasn't the first at Shea. In 1985, a 21-year-old Yonkers man fell 100 feet from an escalator and was killed.

This is the Mets' last season at Shea Stadium. A new stadium, Citi Field, is scheduled to open next year.

Tuesday's game, which the Mets won 6-0, had celebrated Jackie Robinson Day, the 61st anniversary of when the Brooklyn Dodgers legend broke major league baseball's color barrier.

[Mother Shucker]

No way you just stumble and fall off an escalator. Dumb foreigner was doing something goofy before he fell.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

No way you just stumble and fall off an escalator. Dumb foreigner was doing something goofy before he fell.

Funny you mention that:

The man, whose name was not released by the authorities, was sliding down the rail when he tumbled over and fell two levels to the floor of Lobby A

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/nyregion/16fall.html?_r=2&ref=nyregion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

[Wilmington WOW]

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j171/Chadillac13/escalator.gif

[Mother Shucker]

Nothing like sliding down a 80 foot tall escalator. Fucking douche.

[Mother Shucker]

Sanchez is helping the pen.

[sd187]

well i'm back on the bandwagon

[CM Mark]

I'm enjoying the season for the most part so far, but I still haven't worn a Mets logo since early September, right before the collapse

[Mother Shucker]

I'm enjoying the season for the most part so far, but I still haven't worn a Mets logo since early September, right before the collapse

That's cause you are a cunt.

[The Irishman]

Nice win today. In first by a game. Lets keep it up!!

[Mother Shucker]

Let it roll, baby roll...........let it roll, baby roll.......... let it roll, baby roll..........let it roll..........all night long. Do it Duaner do it.

[JMCC]

If Pelfrey pitches like he did last time the Mets should win.

[Mother Shucker]

That's a huge IF.

[JMCC]

Castillo needs to get that bunt down in the future, that should have been a gimme for him...

[Mother Shucker]

He supposedly is one of the best bunters in the game. Nice play by that kid on Beltran's bullet up the middle.

[CM Mark]

Pelfry pitched a decent game, just the Philly hitters were able to get him. Not a bad game, but the loss still sucked.

[JPetrucci23]

this team isn't like-able this year.

[cosmic cow]

Does everyone in the bullpen have to pitch everyday Willy?

Does Delgado suck this much?

If Reyes doesn't hit, the entire team sucks! WTF?

[Fred Told Me]

Today's game was one of the worst played games I've ever seen, and that's saying much.

It's bad enough Delgado can't hit. Now he can't field and doesn't cover first base on a ground ball to 2nd base.

Pagan in Right Field was awful playing that ball in the corner. He's slow to get there. Bobbles it twice and then throws a lollipop into the Infield.

Why did the Mets have the Infield in with Bases Loaded and 1 out in the 8th? Play for the double play. And of course it would have been a double play if the infield was back. Next guy hits a Grand Slam.

Terrible Baseball in Chicago. I didn't mind the Sunday Night loss to Philly because they just came up short in a hard fought game. These two games they looked like a Single A Team.

[GoldenOne]

I am so fucking sick of Willie "I'm smarter than you" Randolph.

They win 5 straight games with Church in the 2 spt, then Willie decides winning isn't good enough and puts Castill-No in the 2 hole. They have yet to win a game since.

You have a winning fucking formula Willie, stop trying to swing your dick and prove to everyone you can win better.

Can't believe I am saying I can't wait till Alou gets back this weekend. Hopefully it pushes Delgado down to 6 and Castill-No to 10.

[JPetrucci23]

The Mets are 8-0 when Luis Castillo is NOT batting 2nd.

The Mets are now 2-9 when Luis Castillo bats 2nd. (both wins coming in the opening series in FLA)

[Fred Told Me]

To Willie's defense, the reason why Ryan Church wasn't hitting 2nd on Sunday and Monday is because Endy Chavez was playing for Angel Pagan, and you need to have Church batting 6th to provide some power in the middle of the lineup. Endy Chavez is not a #6 hitter. Yesterday's lineup was a disgrace. That's a getaway day in August lineup when everybody is banged up and needs a day off. Not in April off a 2 game losing streak.

As long as Pagan is in the lineup, Church will be hitting 2nd. And if he's not than Willie is even stupider than we think he is.

[RMM46]

They actually scored 4 runs today! Shocking!

Enough with this team. Fire Willie, Ho-Jo, Peterson. Designate Delgado for assignment. Another 0-4 from Jose Rey-Ordon-es. Bench him.

Oh yeah. And forget about this guy.

Moises Alou-OF- Mets Apr. 26 - 10:09 am et

Mosies Alou's rehab has been put on hold because of a sore right ankle.

Alou is recovering from a hernia and was supposed to play for Single-A St. Lucie Friday night. He should resume the rehab in a day or two.
Source: New York Post

[Mother Shucker]

Well, they won. The pen has been great, that is if you forget that Heilman exists.

[CM Mark]

Well, they won. The pen has been great, that is if you forget that Heilman exists.

And Schoenweiss

[RMM46]

Well, they won. The pen has been great, that is if you forget that Heilman exists.

And Schoenweiss

And Sosa.

[CM Mark]

And Sosa.

And Wagner

[RMM46]

And Wagner

Can't complain about Wagner this year.

4/4 in saves; 0 hits, 9 Ks, 2 BBs in 9.0 IP.

He's done his job.


So far.

[CM Mark]

Can't complain about Wagner this year.

4/4 in saves; 0 hits, 9 Ks, 2 BBs in 9.0 IP.

He's done his job.


So far.

Good point, but I don't forgive easily. I still haven't forgiven Beltran for the 2006 NLCS, I still haven't forgiven Reyes for last September. Wagner is still a sack of cunt as far as I'm concerned

[RMM46]

Good point, but I don't forgive easily. I still haven't forgiven Beltran for the 2006 NLCS, I still haven't forgiven Reyes for last September. Wagner is still a sack of cunt as far as I'm concerned

Understood and can't argue with ya on Rey-ordon-es and Bustran.

And don't worry - Wagner will kill us again come September!

[Creampier]

Wow, I haven't been on the 'Bag in a while! This thread is as lifeless and uninspiring as the real New York Mets!

I don't care about the 3-3 West Coast road trip and the 12-1 victory yesterday. They looked atrocious in those first 2 Dodger games. Ryan Church and David Wright are the only everyday players worth a shit on the entire team so far! And even Wright has to be more consistent when he's not tearing the cover off the ball. As for the rest of the core players who compose "Los Mets", they can all go fuck a pony!

Teams all around MLB are adjusting to Reyes, he's not adjusting back! I can't believe we're stuck with Castillo, and his slap hitting grampa knees & old lady hips for 4 more years!! Can the Mets just DFA Delgado already? The Blue Jays did it to Frank Thomas, and he's 3x the player Delgado is now! And Beltran... yoohoo.... YIMMY Rollins has been much better than you so far this year, and he's spent 15 days on the DL!

How can you go on any winning streaks when you have headcase extraordinaire Oliver Perez, a career AAAA/minor leaguer Mike Pelfrey, and a never was Figueroa following Santana and Maine? And look, I love Pedro, but I can't stand his bullshit injury after bullshit injury plague anymore. Same with El Duque! I can't wait until these two drop off the payroll books at the end of the year!!

So when are Wilpon and Minaya gonna start shaking some things up?! I wish there was someone decent to replace Wee Willie because the doddering dope and his dear in headlights look on his face can't leave soon enough! He has the respect of absolutely no one in that dugout!!

Arghhh!! I know it's only early-mid May, but the Phils have shown they can win without Rollins already this year, the Braves, while their pitching had had injury problems, are loaded on offense, and the Marlins of all teams keep winning too. And it looks like the Nats are getting their act together too! Now's not the time to be playing 'Wait and Guess"!!


Cliff Notes: Even though the Mets are only a game out of first, changes desperately need to be made before their horrendous, uninspiring, sloppy play drops them further behind!!

[Fred Told Me]

Lets see how they do on this 7 game homestand against inferior opponent. They need to go 5-2 at the very least. Preferably even better. Time to go on a roll.

[JMCC]

I'm not worry about the Mets just yet, its only May after all.

And if the last 4 games are any indication, it looks like Beltran is heating up and when he is on his game, he is one of the best players in baseball.

[Mother Shucker]

Thank God they are hitting a bit. Decent outing by Ollie too, he has blown monkey ass.

[JMCC]

And of course as soon as we give the Mets offense any kind of credit, they shit the bed by only scoring 3 runs vs the Nats :rolleyes:

And is it just me, or the Mets just suck when it comes to hitting with the bases loaded? aside from Beltran's triple 2 days ago, I can't remember the last time they got a grand slam or even a single, very frustrating to watch.

[Fred Told Me]

actually they scored 4 runs. As David Wright had that all important solo homer in the 7th to make it 10-4. Of course with the bases loaded and 2 out in the 8th inning, he grounds out to 3rd. Who saw that coming?

Also Nelson Figueroa should be more worried about going an inning without giving up a run, then what the Nationals are doing in the dugout. He says it was bush league and he may be right, but he should get used to it, because he's heading back there very soon.

[JMCC]

Good win today, Maine was a bit sloppy but efficient, and Wagner has been lights out.

I just hope they find a way to win 2 games with 2 number 5 starters, and then head into Yankee Stadium with a little bit of steam.

Some roster moves.

Vargas, Tatis, Wise active. Designated for assignment are Figueroa and Sosa. Pagan to the DL.

[GoldenOne]

See ya Sosa, we hardly cared about ye.

Glad the Mets actually finally called up a backup 3B so Wright doesn't have to play every inning of every game this season and drag his lifeless body to the plate in September.

[Creampier]

I can't believe it! The Mets front office ACTUALLY did the right thing. :clap::clap:

I was almost ready for Joe Smith to be shipped back to the minors because he had options! I would have popped a vessel if that were the case!

Vargas isn't anything to write home about, but at least the bench and bullpen (if Wise gets his freakin' act together) got a little stronger. You guys think Pagan is gonna be staying in AAA when he comes off the DL? He had a nice little stretch there in April but he looks like he won't be any better than a bench player.

And who's gonna be handling the long relief now? Bileman?

[Creampier]

actually they scored 4 runs. As David Wright had that all important solo homer in the 7th to make it 10-4. Of course with the bases loaded and 2 out in the 8th inning, he grounds out to 3rd. Who saw that coming?

Also Nelson Figueroa should be more worried about going an inning without giving up a run, then what the Nationals are doing in the dugout. He says it was bush league and he may be right, but he should get used to it, because he's heading back there very soon.

And I agree about Figueroa's little whinefest. But that was bush by the Nationals. This is another team I'm slowly starting to dislike. Not quite on an Atlanta/Philly level, but it all started when they played 150% against us the end of last season, then rolled over and died against the Phils. I want the Mets to go 16-2 against these guys this year for that!

Then you have Lastings Milledge, who can never shut the EFF up! When you break a .260 batting average, then talk all you want, okay Gregg Jefferies Jr! Then Elijah Dukes, probably the biggest thug MLB has seen in about 15 years! And not to mention the gimpy overrated crybaby Paul LoDuca..... Seriously! Fuck that team!

[RMM46]

You know what? Fuck the team's record. This is why Willie needs to go.

We have (I should say HAD) a prodigy SS. Somebody who was going to be the heart and soul of this team. Somebody who was going to be the best leadoff hitter we've had. Energy, excitement, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Jose Reyes is currently 8th among NL SS in AVG. 8th among NL SS in OBP. 8th in SLG and 9th in OPS.

How Willie could take somebody with so much potential and basically destroy his career is the unforgiveable sin. Hell - this team would be better off with Jeff Keppinger (before he shattered his knee) than with Jose ReyOrdones.

[Fred Told Me]

How did Willie destroy Reyes? It isn't Willie's fault that Reyes has played like shit. It's Reyes' fault.

Alright that's enough Willie loving for this post. After tonight he should be fired on the spot for putting in that piece of shit Heilman. Unless the Mets are up or down 20 runs, I don't want to see Aaron Heilman within 500 feet of Shea Stadium. If Joe Smith was well enough to pitch after Heilman, than why didn't he come in before Heilman? Or better yet how about having Vargas stay in. He only had 98 pitches.

And god for bid a big hit from somebody on this god damn team. I can't think of one really big hit the Mets have had all season. Uninspiring and underachieving ball and this coming after last year's September disaster. This team needs a major shakeup. And I'm not talking about designating Sosa and Figuerora for assignment. A REAL SHAKEUP. And it's starts with Willie. Enough is Enough.

[JPetrucci23]

one word for this dogshit team, "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[askewcore]

How did Willie destroy Reyes? It isn't Willie's fault that Reyes has played like shit. It's Reyes' fault.

Because it is SO much easier to blame Willie than Reyes.

Whats wrong with Heilman? I always thought he was a pretty nice pitcher for you guys, when did he start letting every inherited runner score?

[Creampier]

Because it is SO much easier to blame Willie than Reyes.

Whats wrong with Heilman? I always thought he was a pretty nice pitcher for you guys, when did he start letting every inherited runner score?

Willie isn't entirely to blame with Reyes (I think that's more Rickey Henderson) and he can't make batters/baserunners not suck in today's game, but he's to blame for a fuckload of other things wrong with this organization. The man's an egomaniac who does the wrong things over and over so as never to admit he was wrong in the first place, and to pathetically try to show how he "leads" the team and is "in charge of" everyone in the clubhouse.

He gives loafing vets like Delgado, Castillo, and Beltran free passes when they fuck up or don't pay attention on the base paths, yet will shit all over younger players for one mistake and destroy their confidence (Heilman's and Pelfrey's bad games last year, Reyes to an extent, Angel Pagan when he led the team in RBIs in April).

While he can't make pitchers pitch and batters bat in the clutch, it's ultimately on Willie when guys are playing uninspiring, lackluster, brainless baseball day in and day out. They just can't, don't and won't play for the guy anymore!! That's why when the Mets visit Yankee Stadium this weekend, they should tell Randolph that the team bus departs half hour later than it normally does and just leave him there, where he should have stayed all along!

[GoldenOne]

Good for Wagner.

“Hits, we’re not getting consistently. Pitching, today, Pelfrey pitched a fantastic game. We had our chances, we didn’t get that hit. The other day, we’re coming back and we don’t get that hit and we don’t make the pitches. It’s a culmination of just not getting it done. We’re not earning our money.”

“Can somebody tell me why the (bleep) the closer being interviewed and I didn’t even play, while they’re over there not getting interviewed? I get it, they’re gone. (Bleeping) shocker.”

“Well, I mean, I was not a participant in the game, and the guys that had participated were gone. I mean, we’re all upset, we’re unhappy with things that are going on, and how we’re playing, and I just felt like I hadn’t even played. I had no role in the game. David Wright is always there, and the same guys are always there. But there needs to be other guys that are accountable. It gets a little old when the same people keep getting interviewed even when they don’t participate…If you’re not there to answer the questions, the reporters can write whatever they want to. They can write you stunk, you sucked, whatever. But if you’re there to say, ‘Hey man, I wasn’t very good today. I came up and I had a chance and it didn’t work out.’ Well, you’re accountable. When you’re not there, it gets a little ridiculous…

BTW - How the fuck does this team have 3 major baserunning fuckups because of guys not bothering to run (Castillo, Wright and Reyes) and Willie still handles the post-game as though he is trying not to wake up his infant in the next room???

I don't blame Beltran for the last play of the game because it was a screaming liner.

However had Castillo been running he would have scored, had Wright been running he would have been on 2nd, and had Reyes been busting it to second he would have made that play to 3rd easily and we would all be screaming the kid is back!

[Fred Told Me]

Beltran should have at least tried to get back to 3rd. He played that like "Well they told me to run on the contact, so I'm just going, I don't give a fuck if I get thrown out".

This team is just filled with uninspiring, lazy, overpaid players. They are lucky that the rest of the division hasn't done much either. That's the only reason they aren't 8 or 9 games our right now. They better wake up. The next 7 games against the Yankees and Braves. If they continue to play this dogshit baseball and lose 5 or more of these games, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody else is managing this team next Friday in Colorado.

[CM Mark]

Because it is SO much easier to blame Willie than Reyes.

Whats wrong with Heilman? I always thought he was a pretty nice pitcher for you guys, when did he start letting every inherited runner score?

The first time he donned a Mets uniform.



This team is going down the crapper. I've decided that after this season, I am a fan free agent. I'm fucking jumping from this sinking ship. I'm sick of these fucking over paid, Nancy-boy fuck ups trying to pass off what they play as pro ball. My fucking co-ed softball team could beat this team right now. If we don't take 2 outta 3 from the Yankees this weekend, I'm out for the year and following every team BUT the Mets to determine who my team is next year.

[JMCC]

I agree that the Mets haven't play up to their potential and I'll agree that Willie is a bum (never liked the signing) but some of you are starting to sound like Philly fans....

Do some of you realize that the best team in baseball right now has 16 losses, while the Mets have 19? do you realize that by this time last year the Phillies were barely playing .500 ball and much like some Mets fans now, their fans were panicking and calling for Manuel's head(every Mets fan knows how that turn out) I mean try to keep things in perspective, its only May, if they keep playing like this come July....

[Fred Told Me]

Nobody is saying the season is over and the Mets have no chance. But are we Met fans supposed to feel good about the uninspiring, unintelligent, and underachieving Baseball this team has been playing just because the rest of the teams aren't playing great either.

If this team wants to show me something, go out and beat Wang and the Yankees tonight because personally I would be shocked if they won tonight. So go prove me wrong.

[Mother Shucker]

I do believe this is the Yankee ace:
xzeSPAD-tO4

[CM Mark]

Am I the only one that is amazed that Schoenweiss didn't give up a single run? I was nervous when they brought him in for the 9th, even with the 11-2 lead

[JPetrucci23]

its nice to be able to breathe a sigh of relief and enjoy 2 games of well played baseball. i just hope it carries on.

[GoldenOne]

If this team wants to show me something, go out and beat Wang and the Yankees tonight because personally I would be shocked if they won tonight. So go prove me wrong.

:action-sm

[Special Eddie]

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[Mother Shucker]

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He's just a little bit special........

[Special Eddie]

He's just a little bit special........

Hey, I'm Special with a capital S thank you.

[JMCC]

Wasn't that like the 3rd HR a Mets player hits that gets taken away? I think Beltran had 2 when they played in Philly and now Delgado. Seriously why not just have instant replay, games are already long enough, 5 more minutes will not kill anyone.

[JPetrucci23]

Wasn't that like the 3rd HR a Mets player hits that gets taken away? I think Beltran had 2 when they played in Philly and now Delgado. Seriously why not just have instant replay, games are already long enough, 5 more minutes will not kill anyone.

it was the 2nd HR to get taken away. BelTRON had one taken away in Florida during the opening series.

[Mother Shucker]

Why is the bottom of the pole black?

[fuckwit]

it was the 2nd HR to get taken away. BelTRON had one taken away in Florida during the opening series.

i thought it was a ground rule double. from the reply i saw last night and all the video of the ass in stands with the scuffed ball it looked like it hit the top of the wall then ricocheted left off the side of the foul pole and out of play

[Fred Told Me]

I dont know what replay you were looking at it but it didn't hit the top of the fence. And even if it did. If the ball hits the top of the fence and then the pole, its still a Home Run.

This weekend was very nice, but if they go out now and go back to the uninspiring dog shit baseball and lose 3 out of 4 to Atlanta, this weekend won't mean shit.

[Fred Told Me]

Well after a brief 2 game hiatus, the nauseating to watch Mets have returned.

Bases Loaded 1 out in the 1st. And then 22 straight batters retired. And 17 in a row for Glavine no less. Great job.

4-1 in the 7th with the game still in reach. Yeah put in Heilman that makes sense. 2 batters, 2 runs. What a shock.

I hate this team.

[CM Mark]

Ah, welcome back Mets. I may have to put in my fan free agency sooner rather than later

[Fred Told Me]

This 2nd game is even more nauseating than the 1st.

I REALLY HATE THIS TEAM!

1 run all fuckin day. Lazy unemotional pieces of shit. Get rid of Willie NOW and get somebody in there who is going to light a fire under these guys.

Marlon Anderson shouldn't even be in Baseball anymore, nevermind hitting in the fuckin' 2 spot.

I HATE THIS TEAM.

[Creampier]

Ahhh... here's the Mets we all love and/or hate! Way to erase the progress and momentum from the weekend in the span of 10 hours!! Two more with the Braves.... then the Rockies who've been playing better as of late, then 3 with the first place Marlins, then 4 with the Dodgers!

I can't see things getting better any time in the immediate future. This team is so fucked up I don't even know where to begin!

[Mother Shucker]

Sigh, way to fuck up my weekend buzz tools.

[JPetrucci23]

fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team. fuck this team.

[Fred Told Me]

I hope the team plane crashes on its way to Colorado. I hate them all. Cant wait for Johan to pitch 8 innings of 3 hit ball tomorrow, while Hudson and a couple of shitty relievers throw a shutout and we lose 3-0 tomorrow.

Minaya or Wilpon show some balls and Fire Willie Now! I know it's not all his fault and the players are to blame. And believe me they are certainly to blame especially people named Carlos. But enough is enough. I've had it with this lackluster bullshit. If you're gonna lose. Lose with some passion. Give it your all and they certainly do not do that.

[Creampier]

It's really fucking sad when the score is 3-1 Atlanta and I shut the TV off, knowing full well the lead is relinquished for the rest of the night, never to get it back.

I swear, I've never seen a team nauseate me more than the 2007-2008 Mets. I don't know how Hernandez, Darling, and Cohen do it! At least Bob Murphy was loaded up when he was watching pitiful, putrid baseball day in and day out.

I'll keep Church, Schneider, Wagner, and Wright (even he's been pissing me off lately! You're the best player on the team and have been there 4+ years now! Lead dammit!!) and the rest of the team/coaches/upper management can take a long, slow walk through crime-riddled downtown Atlanta during the evening hours!

[Mother Shucker]

I have tickets to three or four more games this year, anyone want to buy them?

[TheJew]

this is painful to watch, even tho it was in beautiful hd....

[JPetrucci23]

its looking like i am gonna be on the field during batting practice on friday the 30th, how the fuck can i act all cheery with them??

[CM Mark]

Okay, I give up. Season is over for me as a Mets fan. I will continue watching Mets games, but only for Wright and Church. I may come back as a fan when Reyes, Heillman, Schoenweiss, and others I can't think of now, are out of Mets uniforms, but as of now, I am a free agent fan.


Oh, and if Church isn't on the All Star team, I may give up on baseball in total


EDIT: Oh yeah, Beltran and Delgado need to go too

[Creampier]

EDIT: Oh yeah, Beltran and Delgado need to go too

Did anybody else see him last night when he was having a jolly good chatting time with Atlanta Braves baserunners at 1B when they were down 11-2? I didn't witness it personally, but if true, I hope a screaming Chipper Jones line drive caves his skull in!

[Fred Told Me]

How about Johan Santana patting Chipper Jones on the back after the 7th inning disaster. What the hell was that. This series had the feel of 1999 all over again. Where everything that can go wrong will go wrong, and whatever the Braves do will turn to gold.

Good job by the Mets bringing up Raul Casanova to replace Moises Alou. Always a smart move to replace an outfielder with a 3rd string catcher. That's almost as smart a move as signing a gimpy 2nd baseman to a 4 year contract.

Can't wait for the next 2 weeks to see Marlon Anderson and Endy Chavez battle it out to see who can get their average under .150 faster.

[RoscoePColtrane]

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[Mother Shucker]

Yeah, but you still live in Georgia......HAHAHAHAHAHA.

[Budyzir]

<------ Another free agent fan.

I am lost for words to describe my disgust with this team.

[Creampier]

Yeah, but you still live in Georgia......HAHAHAHAHAHA.

QFT!

Anyways, I've sat through and watched some way worse Mets teams in my day, so there's no way or no use in jumping ship. But I still stand by statement in saying that I've never been more disgusted and nauseated with the 2007-2008 bunch!

Outside of Johan Santana and a relief pitcher/corner outfielder here and there, this is the same core group of guys that led the team to 96 wins a year and a half ago! This team has 1986 talent, but piss poor 1992 attitude!

I will always root for the Mets, but if they drop the series in Colorado (one of the stadiums besides Turner Field where the Mets traditionally SUCK) and it gets Randolph and his race card drawing ass fired by Monday, it's not gonna upset me any.

Is it 100% his fault? No! But get someone new in there, because this hasn't been working for a long time now with him at the helm. Let Jerry Manuel finish the year out! As I saw last Sunday night at Yankee Stadium, he at least gives a shit and stands up for his players. How the hell did he get ejected for arguing the Delgado no-homer and not Willie?!

[Fred Told Me]

You see Girardi stand up for his players last night and show some emotion and get the team fired up. Wouldn't be surprised if that type of fire sparks the Yankees to get on a roll. On the other hand if that was Willie he would just give an aww shucks, ump that was a bad call. and then walk back to the dugout and do nothing.

[RMM46]

You see Girardi stand up for his players last night and show some emotion and get the team fired up. Wouldn't be surprised if that type of fire sparks the Yankees to get on a roll. On the other hand if that was Willie he would just give an aww shucks, ump that was a bad call. and then walk back to the dugout and do nothing.

You mean like here?

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05232008/sports/yankees/yankees_can_os_112197.htm

YANKEES CAN-O'S ON SINGLE IN NINTH
By MIKE PUMA

May 23, 2008 --
Way to give your sleeping team a kick in the pants, Joe.

Robinson Cano delivered the winning hit last night, but Joe Girardi may have been the real catalyst of the Yankees' 2-1 victory over the Orioles at the Stadium.

In a cap-tossing/kicking tantrum that would have made the late Billy Martin proud, Girardi was ejected by plate umpire Chris Guccione for arguing a foul-tip strikeout of Jason Giambi in the ninth. The manager then watched from his office as Cano stroked an RBI single against Jim Johnson that gave the Yanks their first two-game winning streak in nearly three weeks.

"It means a lot to see your manager fighting for the team, especially in that situation," said Cano, whose single to left brought home Hideki Matsui with the game winner.

Derek Jeter was more succinct: "I think [Girardi] fired us up," he said.

After Matsui had singled leading off the inning against Johnson (1-1), Alex Rodriguez struck out and Giambi was ruled out by Guccione on a foul tip held by catcher Ramon Hernandez. Giambi protested and Girardi went ballistic, eventually getting into Guccione's face and receiving his first ejection as Yankees manager. The ensuing batter, Bobby Abreu, walked and Cano ended it.

"I had a pen in my hand and I was so happy, I threw it real hard against the couch," Girardi said, describing the scene in his office.

Fuck Willie.

[Mother Shucker]

Well, I got home from work about half an hour ago, and all I have heard is some fucking cunt "Whoo hooing" into the mic. I want to strangle this hole.

[Fred Told Me]

I can't believe I stayed up till 1:30 to watch this non-stop garbage Baseball.

I guess it's a moral victory that Heilman gave up the winning run on a basehit and not the usual Homerun.

Why in the world is Heilman pitching instead of Matt Wise? Why in the world is Heilman pitching instead of the head trainer? Anybody but Heilman. But clueless Willie what do you expect?

Reyes gets robbed in extra innings on a 3-2 pitch at his ankles. Good to see Willie come out and show some fire, kick some dirt, and defend him....... Oh wait, nevermind. Wrong team.

Reyes gets picked off 2nd with 0 outs in extra innings. I've had it with his stupidity.

Is there a player in Baseball stealing a paycheck more than Carlos Beltran is?

46 games this year, 0 clutch hits.

Every day is worse than the previous one. How about mixing up the lineup? God for bid do that. No hit Beltran clean up every fuckin' game. The guy hasn't had a big hit all year. I would hit Beltran 2nd and hit Church cleanup when Church is back 100%. But what do I know.

[Creampier]

Jesus titty fucking Keey-rice-st!! Can Bileman ever come into a game and NOT give up runs? I would have at least intentionally walked Holliday and took my chances against Atkins.

Boy o boy! Our franchise players (Reyes and Wright) had wonderful games tonight, didn't they? When did they start lodging their heads into their rectums? And I'll be able to find my girlfriend's G-spot before Oliver Perez finds the damn strike zone!

Goddamn this team makes me miserable!

[JMCC]

Mets win! Mets win! Mets win!

[Fred Told Me]

Please make this a good Memorial Day and Fire Randolph. Something obviously needs to be done to shake this team up. And if Mr. complacent Randolph doesn't want to do it and he wants to put the same damn lineup out there with Beltran in the cleanup spot, than the removal of Randolph is what's needed.

The Rockies are fielding a Triple A team. I must have missed when Aaron Cook became a CY Young candidate. He pitches a complete game 4 hitter.

Ryan Church probably couldn't tell you what city he is in. Why he even made the trip to Colorado is beyond me. Yet big spot in the game, let's send him up to pinch hit and of course he gets complete dominated.

The disgrace continues.

[Creampier]

Yeah.... I'm thinking just let Jerry Manuel interim it the rest of the year. Then I really wouldn't mind giving Wally Backman a chance!

Ask Dan Uggla, Conor Jackson, and Aaron Rowand if Backman ever lacked fire or never had his players' backs!

[RoscoePColtrane]

Yeah, but you still live in Georgia......HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Yes I do! And damn proud of it. Oh and it doesn't get near as cold here in the winter.

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I wouldn't want to live anywhere else

[fuckwit]

ive seen pictures that make community colleges look nice. not fooling me.

[RoscoePColtrane]

If it wasn't nice here, I'd move. But please, stay up there in NY. We don't need any more New Yorkers down here.

[RMM46]

The Mets are an apalling dump heap overflowing with the most disgraceful assortment of deplorable rubbish imaginable.

Mangled up in tangled up knots.

[Mother Shucker]

So you got buildings, a fountain, a stadium, and a rock? Ya'll have fun down there, you hear?

[RMM46]

Maybe we should send some of the CURRENT Mets to a beach in Venezuela.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2008-05-26-obit-gonzalez_N.htm

Ex-big leaguer Geremi Gonzalez killed by lightning

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — A government official in Venezuela says former major league pitcher Geremi Gonzalez is dead after being hit by lightning in the South American country.

Emergency management official Herman Bracho says the 33-year-old pitcher was at the beach in western Venezuela and was on a pier when lightning struck him on Sunday night.

Gonzalez started in the major leagues for the Chicago Cubs in 1997 and later played with the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, the Boston Red Sox, the New York Mets and the Milwaukee Brewers.

He last played in the major leagues in 2006 with the Toronto Blue Jays and also pitched last year for the Yomiuri Giants in Japan.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[Creampier]

I've officially hit my breaking point with this team! The only thing I can guess is that the team is writing the season off and the marketing slogan for 2009 will be.... "New Stadium, New Hope, New Beginning!"

How can you POSSIBLY let Randolph keep his job when, if the Marlins sweep, they will be 8.5 games by Wednesday night?! Not a FUCKING THING is being done to change the course of this rickety, sinking ship!! And I'm fucking sick of it!

They don't give a fuck about how they're doing (owners and players) then why the fuck should I? When they lose, I'm just going to point and laugh. I refuse to use a single ounce of my energy to give a fuck about these worthless assholes until moves are made! Good DAY! :fight6:

[Mother Shucker]

Dude, it is worse for me. I have to GO to the game tomorrow. Yuck.:puke:

[RMM46]

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[JMCC]

Can it get any worse? I'm trying to stay positive, especially after last years great start and awful finish, but it gets harder each and every day the Mets lose...

[fandango86]

Some good news, hopefully. Pedro has been pencilled in for June 3rd. He's only making one minor league start, and if all goes well he'll be back next week. As I predicted, the Mets have been a .500 team without him. Since they don't look like they're going to fire Willie, they traded all their prospects for Santana so can't get any midseason help, and Delgado appears to be a certified victim/user/product of the steroid age, he's the best chance the Mets have of finding a spark.

[CM Mark]

Come join me, root for the team I picked in the middle of the Braves sweep last week.

http://sportswrap.berecruited.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/rays.jpg

I can finally root for Scott Kazmir.

So, until Reyes, Heilman, Schoenweiss, Beltran, and Delgado are gone, to the New York Mets I say


Your Mom's Box

[Mother Shucker]

Well, the weather may cooperate and rain like a fuck so I may not have to go tonight.

[Budyzir]

I have tixs to Wed's game, doubt I'm going. May check out Sat's game, I'm craving a hero from Mama's shop.

[Mother Shucker]

I ate the tix, the forcast blew. Now, not so bad. I am glad Santana did not pitch a classic, I would have been real pissed to miss that. Budy, I am thinking of going tomorrow as I already have got everything for the tailgate ready and it is supposed to be nice and I am on vacation. If you don't go, let me know. I was only going to get crappy seats, but rather give you something for tix you are going to eat.

[Budyzir]

Would do MS but I'm in on 4 seats with a bunch of friends, if one us cant make it, the other guys have first call on the tix. I'll try to let you know but, tomorrow is a crazy day and I don't visit the Bag while at work. Nazi company IT asshats.

Enjoy if you go, hopefully you'll catch one of those rare wins.

[Mother Shucker]

Ok bro, was just thinin. I would not even consider it, except that me and my buddy are on vacation this week, and like I said, we decided to eat tonights tix as it looked like one of those nights that you sit there for seven hours with rain delays. Hell, still could be.

[RMM46]

I'd call this team a joke, but that would be doing a disservice to jokes.

This team is more like a pie in the face to every Met fan that supported them through everything they've done and still came back for more. A banana cream pie smashed right into all of our faces, and all we can do is stand there and wipe the crust and cream away, knowing that they are going to smash us in the face with another one. We don't know when it will happen. We don't know if it will be a chocolate cream pie, lemon meringue, or even a combination of the 3 all at once. But it's coming. And all we can do is hope that we are not wearing our good suit when it happens.

[Mother Shucker]

Best thing about this season so far? Rusty in the booth. Sad. But Rusty fucking rocks the fat ass.

[RMM46]

All those lefties LEFT on the bench against a power throwing righty????????

And Willie gets MAD at us for pointing this out??????????

Fuck it. I give up. That was a lemon meringue in our faces. At least we weren't wearing our good suit (reference my post 1 up).

At least Heilman looks good tonight.

[JMCC]

Say what you want about the Mets, but they showed a lot of heart tonight. Coming back from behind not once, but twice was very nice to see.

This has to be that game that turns their season around, if this doesn't do it, I don't know what will.

And I can't believe I'm about to say this, but both Shoe and Heilman looked good for a change. Yeah its one game, but you gotta start somewhere....

[JMCC]

3 in row and tomorrow they face a rookie in Kershaw,(who is nasty) and we all know that the Mets struggle against rookies. Should be a good test...

[RMM46]

They didn't look abysmal for 3 games. I'll give them that much!

[Quint]

All those lefties LEFT on the bench against a power throwing righty????????

And Willie gets MAD at us for pointing this out??????????

Fuck it. I give up. That was a lemon meringue in our faces. At least we weren't wearing our good suit (reference my post 1 up).

At least Heilman looks good tonight.

Which .200 hitter did you want to bring in cold off the bench to face a guy throowing 98 mph?

[Creampier]

You gotta be shitting me with this team! They get swept 4 games in Atlanta, lose 2 of 3 to the triple A Rockies...

Then they come ba