UFC 81 : Breaking Point - watching thread

[burky79]

here it is.

WARNING :
THERE WILL BE SPOILERS!!!

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

watching tyson fight, third round right now

UFC 81 : Breaking Point official site (http://81.ufc.com/)

[Cromwell]

Yeah, I'm watching too.

Griffin's got the better standup but Tibau has been getting all the takedowns. How do you score it so far?

[burky79]

gf and i just got back from my parents 10 minutes ago... had to boot up the laptop and connect ;)

so i just started at the 2nd round intermision.

so far, i dont see tyson stoppping any take downs and tysons hand meting tibau's face a lot and heavily

[ScottFromGA]

watching on Paltalk in the XWE The Xtreme Wrestling Room.....free feed in there.


but the audio and the feed are off.

[Cromwell]

I don't agree with the level of the judges decision. 30-27 all across the cards? It was a lot closer than that.

The fans are booing.

[burky79]

Was he throwing those heavy shots all 3 rounds?
It sounded like he was hitting dead meat (no pun intended) in the 3rd.
30-27 makes it seems so.

----

Griffin defeats Tibau via Unanimous Decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27)

[burky79]

Next televised bout -

Middleweight bout:
Rob Yundt vs. Ricardo Almeida

[Cromwell]

Whatever. The TVU chat is running 50-50 over the level of that decision. Some agree with me that it looked closer.

Anyway, now there is this next fight. Yundt vs Almedia. Yundt is a last minute replacement for Alan Belcher.

[burky79]

you see buffer run into the cameraman?
hahaha

[burky79]

Just got my first hic-up in the vid

[Cromwell]

you see buffer run into the cameraman?
hahaha

Yeah - D'oh! :icon_lol:

Almedia is a Serra/Gracie Ju-Jitsu guy.

He wins by submission.

[burky79]

done and done.

wow

BJJ hard

[GDRC]

that was fast

[burky79]

I want that one on slow mo highlights tomorrow.

the flip over ghiloutine(sp?)

badass

[burky79]

60-40 lesnar on the txt voting

[GDRC]

I really hope Mir wins.

[burky79]

Almeida defeats Yundt via Submission (guillotine choke) at 1:08 of Round 1

[burky79]

I really hope Mir wins.

me too.

he has had as many roadblocks as anyone, but always comes back

[Cromwell]

Almeida defeats Yundt via Submission (guillotine choke) at 1:08 of Round 1

I had that at 10:47. :icon_lol:

You're 5 minutes late with those "results" :action-sm

[burky79]

Next televised bout -

Middleweight bout:
Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn

[Southtown]

Nevermind

[Cromwell]

Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn


Should be a good one. :)

[burky79]

I had that at 10:47. :icon_lol:

You're 5 minutes late with those "results" :action-sm

yup, i saw that.. i followed up 1 min later with a statemnet about it too.

I was posting the time and exact way that was posted on wiki (quick cut n paste)
:action-sm

[burky79]

Is the sound working for people who are paying for this, because its off in all the PalTalk rooms that are showing it?

um yeah... im sure the PPV customers are satisfied (other than the wallet aids)

;)

[Cromwell]

Cool. Yeah. Whatever. Its just a "chat thread".

I gotta say - Jeremy Horn looks a little "soft" physically. I know his Jits is great - but he doesn't look like he spends much time working on his muscle training.

[burky79]

nate the great sporting the grizzly adams look

[burky79]

ive always thought that bout Horn too.

heck, remember penn used to look alot softer too

[burky79]

if he aint soft, Marquardt is sure tenderizing him!

[burky79]

horn loose his mouthpiece?

[burky79]

nice upkick

[Cromwell]

ive always thought that bout Horn too.

heck, remember penn used to look alot softer too

Penn had to finally re-commit himself to superior physical training. And he's going to need all of that and more against Sherk.

Horn is getting a beat down from Marquart.

But - Jeremey is now trying to win it with high-level jits.

[burky79]

nice almost sub and reversal!

[burky79]

round 2

[burky79]

locked up & frozen

[Cromwell]

Horn is all technique. He's actually now looking slightly better than Nate.

[burky79]

wow... fast standing ghioultine!!!

[GDRC]

Nice sub by nate

[Cromwell]

As soon as I said that - Nate gets the submission.

[Cromwell]

I have to say that in the end - and with both having pretty much equal jits skills - it was the superior conditioned athlete that takes the victory.

[burky79]

1:37 of the 2nd round
Nate Marquardt by tap-out (standing guillotine )

[burky79]

I have to say that in the end - and with both having pretty much equal jits skills - it was the superior conditioned athlete that takes the victory.

yup.
ding ding ding.

That was a big technical slip by Horn, leaving that neck open in that close.

[burky79]

Next televised bout -

Light heavyweight bout:
Tim Boetsch vs. David Heath


Boetsch defeats Heath via TKO (strikes) at 4:52 of Round 1.

[burky79]

this is some feelin out

[burky79]

tim is kickin like crazy!

hard and straight

[burky79]

heath looks asleep.

he looks like hes spaced out or preocupied

[burky79]

nice clinch and knees.

[Cromwell]

I give props to Boetsch for crediting Jeet Kune Do as his disclipline. You don't hear that much these days in the MMA game.

[burky79]

wow. a pumeling!

he rocked heath and beat him down!

[burky79]

I give props to Boetsch for crediting Jeet Kune Do as his disclipline. You don't hear that much these days in the MMA game.

no doubt!

who was the last fighter you can even recall honoring bruce/jeet?

[Hidden_Rage]

Wait.. I thought Lesnars match was suppose to be the 2nd last match to Sly/Nog


edit: Nevermind, it's on now.

[GDRC]

Lesnar vs Mir now

[Cromwell]

no doubt!

who was the last fighter you can even recall honoring bruce/jeet?

Honestly - I can't.

I read the Tao of Jeet Kune Do on a regular basis.

There is much knowledge in there, grasshopper :icon_cool

[Cromwell]

Lesnar vs Mir now

Whoooo Hoooo!

[burky79]

Next televised fight -

Heavyweight bout:

Frank Mir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Mir) vs. Brock Lesnar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brock_Lesnar)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/FrankMir.png/200px-FrankMir.png

vs

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Brock_Lesnar_in_2003.jpg

[burky79]

get ready for a bandwidth crunch

[Cromwell]

get ready for a bandwidth crunch

So far no problems with tvu . . . .:icon_wink

[burky79]

No probs here yet either Crom.

so far

incase anyones curious

Brock's MMA win -

06/02/2007
Win vs Min Soo Kim
K-1 Dynamite!!
USA
Submission (Strikes)
1 st
1:09

[burky79]

Damn... Brock is gi-normous!

[GDRC]

Undertaker rules

[burky79]

10 lbs diff, but it looks like all cut meat on Brock

[Cromwell]

Ha, ha.

There are a lot of non-MMA guys there.

This is exciting.

[GDRC]

Lets go Mir!

[burky79]

brought the whole cast of the wwf/e whatever.

[burky79]

steve the stache mazagatti
woohoo!

[burky79]

that was a quick takedown...

[GDRC]

1 point deduction for lesnar.

[burky79]

no warning?


?!?!?!

[Cromwell]

Wow.

Its looks like Lesnar is going to destroy Mir.

[Hidden_Rage]

Mir wins!

[GDRC]

Mir Wins!!!!!

[burky79]

Lesnar has tapped

[Loser In Life]

Mir wins.

[Cromwell]

Wow.

Mir gets the submission

[burky79]

Lesnar looked like he was physically dominating, but very sloppy with his limbs

[Gotti420]

nice sub by Mir. weak performance by Lesnar.

[Steam]

Nice! Fuck Lesnar.

[Cromwell]

Kneebar.

Forced to tap.

Techinque over slightly superior size and strength.

[ScottFromGA]

Lesnar looked like a bitch....

goddamn, a tapout?!? LOL!

[burky79]

"Look at the guys arms"

great quote Mir!
hahaha

[Cromwell]

Lesnar looked like he was physically dominating, but very sloppy with his limbs

Agreed.

I wasn't a "weak performance" by Brock.

But - it just goes to show - you have to have your Jitz down or you *will* get submitted.

[Cromwell]

Ooooh - credit to Mark Laimon.

Serra isn't going to be happy to hear that. :)

[burky79]

Mir defeats Lesnar via Submission (kneebar) at 1:30 of Round 1

[Steam]

How upset is Dana White right about now?

[jimmyjimjimz]

they get points in UFC? That's pretty fuckin gay, I think.

So, Brock got his ass kicked? I knew that was gonna happen. I knew he was gonna embarass himself. Too bad Vince aint ever gonna offer him a contract again.

[burky79]

Next televised bout -

Interim Heavyweight Championship bout:
Tim Sylvia vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

[burky79]

How upset is Dana White right about now?

He'll wipe his tears with rolls of 100's

[jimmyjimjimz]

Next televised bout -

Interim Heavyweight Championship bout:
Tim Sylvia vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

so in UFC, the main event isn't the last match?

[burky79]

so in UFC, the main event isn't the last match?

it was a co main event tonight

[Aizazzle]

That answers two very important questions;

Brock isn't the next big thing in the UFC

and

I guess the Ankle Lock isn't the same as as a kneebar

So, Brock got his ass kicked? I knew that was gonna happen. I knew he was gonna embarass himself. Too bad Vince aint ever gonna offer him a contract again.

Actually it wasn't a bad performance by Lesnar. He was dominant in the beginning, but Mir was simply smarter.

Vince would sign Lesnar in a heart beat, and then make him champion again.

How upset is Dana White right about now?

He has to be pulling his hair out... oh wait.

[Gotti420]

How upset is Dana White right about now?

probably pretty upset considering how much he is paying Lesnar

[GDRC]

I hope Big Tim can somehow beat Big Nog.

[LastDeadMouse]

they get points in UFC? That's pretty fuckin gay, I think.

Well it's either that or watch two guys fight forever even though they are either a) too tired to continue doing anything productive or b) boring the shit out of the viewers.

[burky79]

I guess the Ankle Lock isn't the same as as a kneebar



hahahahaha:clap:::hammer::rolleyes:

[burky79]

Tim on top, in half guard and stands up

[Cromwell]

Fight on.

Tim looking good with his standup striking so far.

[burky79]

Nog knocked down...

what a shot!!!!!!!!!

[burky79]

Tim throwing bombs!

[burky79]

Noggy with the late take down

[Cromwell]

Nog's face is fucked up by Tim's pummelling.

They keep tallking about how he can rebound. We shall see.

[burky79]

Tim sprawling like a mad man.

Nog looks like he doesn't have his "full energy reserve"

He peaks out, instead of driving Tim down.

not to take a way from Tim's defense

[Cromwell]

Round 2 to Sylvia.

I've got him ahead 2-0 on my card :)

[burky79]

1st 10-9
2nd 10-9

^^^

[GDRC]

Nog wins with a choke.

[burky79]

Nice reversal and side control...

time is over.

Nog wins


what a come back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cromwell]

Wow.

Nog with the Anaconda choke.

New UFC Heavyweight champion.

[mendozathejew]

the boy sure can take a beating. hes going blind in that right eye

you can see nog can barely keep open. thats how it always is now. or be barely bothers keeping it open because the vision is so bad. he needs to hang it up soon

[burky79]

i know theres a few more undercards, but im starting a movie with the gf now.

later all

[Cromwell]

he needs to hang it up soon

Hang it up? :icon_conf

He's the new UFC Heavyweight Champion.

He now has to fight his defense match next.

[Aizazzle]

I'm not a UFC exprt so I ask you harcore UFC fans.

What happens to Lesnar, does he get another opponent, or is it Hulk music time?

[mendozathejew]

Hang it up? :icon_conf

He's the new UFC Heavyweight Champion.

He now has to fight his defense match next.

yeah I know. I really am being panicky pete. but the guy has just taken so many savage beatings, mostly in victory. they add up. ive seen boxers take that physical decline, and still eating up beatings. nog has been on it for a while. and that right eye is damn near done for.

[mendozathejew]

I'm not a UFC exprt so I ask you harcore UFC fans.

What happens to Lesnar, does he get another opponent, or is it Hulk music time?

he'll get another opponent. he shows alot of potential even in the loss. most fighters, especially HWs dont pull those knee bars so easily. and he defended arm bars just fine

[supers4972]

Brock looked good but will need time to develop. I thought he was robbed by the bad stand up and point deduction.

Nog looked like shit and I don't see alot left in the HW division right now.

Griffin and Emerson both looked strong.

Tim Boetch is the next Huston Alexander

[askewcore]

Nogs is the man. Anyone know where I could get some vids of the lesnar/mir and/or nog/sylvia fight?

[mendozathejew]

Nogs is the man. Anyone know where I could get some vids of the lesnar/mir and/or nog/sylvia fight?


in here

Tyson Griffin Vs Glesion Tibau 51 MB Good Fight
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VABSDJYB

Nate Marquardt Vs Jeremy Horn 26MB Another Good One
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R7YGPTBO

David Heath Vs Tim Boetesch 26 MB Very Good!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3CY4T6P0

Brock Lesnar Vs Frank Mir 26MB Good one
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=05SZBOGS

Tim Sylvia Vs Antonio Minotorio Noguiera 43.9 MB Another good one
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HTYOKD0B

Chris Lytle Vs Kyle Bradley 19 MB Very Good
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZMIFZ2WK
Keita Nakamura Vs Rob Emerson 42.1 MB
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A0I054CG

[burky79]

Nogs is the man. Anyone know where I could get some vids of the lesnar/mir and/or nog/sylvia fight?

Uncut81
UFC81:BreakingPoint (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y9QQ56TQ)

[jules]

Brock looked good but will need time to develop. I thought he was robbed by the bad stand up and point deduction.

Nog looked like shit and I don't see alot left in the HW division right now.

Griffin and Emerson both looked strong.

Tim Boetch is the next Huston Alexander

i agree. mir turned his head into brocks punches, and it wasnt intentional and it was only one clear shot to the back of the head. mir tapped him fair and square, but got his ass kicked in the process(if that makes sense).and i am a big mir fan, but i just think that stoppage saved him, and im just not sure it was a legit stoppage.
i think there is going to be a great future in the ufc for brock if he works on a defense against the leg submissions, because now that is where everyone he fights is going to go to against him. i thought he looked good in this fight though.

[Capt.Caveman]

lesner definately has a future in the sport. i find it bullshit that mazzagati stopped the fight when lesner punched mir in the back of the head. no warning before hand or nothing. lesner got caught and should get another fight soon. to all of you that said lesner got his ass kicked you obviously know nothing about the sport. that kneebar/anlkle lock combo was mir's 1st offense. experience won tinite good job frankie. mir may get a title shot or kongo if he beats herring. i'm so glad nog won. i can't stand sylvia. tim did let the hands go last night but he had him wounded and as usual backed off after nog recovered. i'm happy for nog. almeda looked good in his return horn not so much

[coinedpro]

Wow.

Nog with the Anaconda choke.

New UFC Heavyweight champion.

Guillotine choke.

This is an Anaconda choke (3:15) :
a-d1PS2PHpU

[Gotti420]

to all of you that said lesner got his ass kicked you obviously know nothing about the sport. that kneebar/anlkle lock combo was mir's 1st offense.

I don't think Lesnar got his ass kicked, he just made a mistake that a much more experienced Mir was able to capitalize on. He obviously has potential, I just question if he's worth all the money the UFC is paying him.

[supers4972]

I just question if he's worth all the money the UFC is paying him.


The PPV buys will answer that question

[Chino Kapone]

Mazagotti's is a dumbass for that stopage. was shit.

[filthgrinder]

Mazagotti's is a dumbass for that stopage. was shit.

If you watched the fight before (or maybe it was two fights before), also with porno stauch Steve, you'll notice he gave repeated warning to watch the back of the head. Now, the refs have pre-fight instructions/conversations with both fighters. Usually it's a quick reminder of the rules, or if there is something different going on, like, "come up for the staredown", or "the cage or in the blue corner is slippery".

They also give last minute warning and instructions. If fighters have been grabbing the cage or the top of the cage all night, some refs will go and warn fighters right off the bat, grab the cage, and I'm taking a point. Steve could have said to both guys, "watch the back of the head, I'm not going to give any warning".

Frank was turning from the punches, and it was unintentional, I think there should have just been a warning. However, he could have been turning to go for a leg. It's one of those things we'll never know.

This will probably be good for the UFC and Brock in the long run. It shows how silly a "WWE vs UFC who would win" conversation is, and if Brock can go on a winning streak, it shows that it's legit, and that Brock is truely trying to learn the sport and improve. I think you'll have alot of people checking out his next fight to see if he can win.

Also, we still don't know what kind of jaw he has. I'd love to see Lesnar vs Cro-cop.

[burky79]

If you watched the fight before (or maybe it was two fights before), also with porno stauch Steve, you'll notice he gave repeated warning to watch the back of the head. Now, the refs have pre-fight instructions/conversations with both fighters. Usually it's a quick reminder of the rules, or if there is something different going on, like, "come up for the staredown", or "the cage or in the blue corner is slippery".

They also give last minute warning and instructions. If fighters have been grabbing the cage or the top of the cage all night, some refs will go and warn fighters right off the bat, grab the cage, and I'm taking a point. Steve could have said to both guys, "watch the back of the head, I'm not going to give any warning".

Frank was turning from the punches, and it was unintentional, I think there should have just been a warning. However, he could have been turning to go for a leg. It's one of those things we'll never know.

This will probably be good for the UFC and Brock in the long run. It shows how silly a "WWE vs UFC who would win" conversation is, and if Brock can go on a winning streak, it shows that it's legit, and that Brock is truely trying to learn the sport and improve. I think you'll have alot of people checking out his next fight to see if he can win.

Also, we still don't know what kind of jaw he has. I'd love to see Lesnar vs Cro-cop.

I'm sure there was a pre-fight warning, especially for an un-experienced MMA fighter.

BUT

He needed a warning for consistency. No one else has ever got a point taken away that quickly, that I've ever seen.

I think Brock has a future... but a Cro-cop/Lesnar fight... Lesnar has a long way to go before that. On the other hand, if he practices his high kicks... who knows :)

[Chino Kapone]

I
He needed a warning for consistency. No one else has ever got a point taken away that quickly, that I've ever seen.




Exactly. I think we all agree on this point. Im guessing Mazagotti was a bit intimidated by Brock and figured a warning just wouldn't get his attention. Its like a rabid dog. You can't just walk up to it and take its food away without getting mauled yourself. :D

[Capt.Caveman]

the point was bullshit. that swung the match in mirs favor