The 2008 New York Yankees Thread

[askewcore]

With football season over and the Knicks in the toilet, it's time for me to turn attention fully to the Yankees, so I figured I'd get this years thread rolling. It will be nice to see what happens by the Yankees going against character and not giving away all our good young players for one superstar. The young pitchers are gonna be the key to this season. Lets hope Big Blue set the sports world back to normal and we can mush Boston's face again this year.

[N.Y. Johnny]

Lets hope Big Blue set the sports world back to normal and we can mush Boston's face again this year.



Amen and lets hope so brother!

It was refreshing to see they didn't sell off the young pitchers and they didn't throw money at Santana. I'm ready for Spring training already!!!

[Stormrider666]

Amen and lets hope so brother!

It was refreshing to see they didn't sell off the young pitchers and they didn't throw money at Santana. I'm ready for Spring training already!!!


Between having the young pitchers and seeing how Joe Girardi is going to manage, I can't wait for the start of the season.

[Steam]

Between having the young pitchers and seeing how Joe Girardi is going to manage, I can't wait for the start of the season.

Same here. I just hope that the Cashman plan works and they keep him around. Love the Cashman.

Can't wait to order the Extra Innings package so I can watch all the Yankee games and not just the fucking Sox.

[mik3]

I'm happy to know that chances are in 2008 if someone isn't playing well, they'll not be playing. It won't take a freak broken wrist.
I also feel there won't be 10-15 times this year where the top setup guy is pitching in a 6+ run game.

[rustytrombone1]

When will Clemens return and will Suzyn Waldman give us another bit of sound clip gold?

[Perch1019]

I still think its going to be weird not seeing Joe Torre on the bench. About the time of the strike in 94 was when I was really starting to understand and appreciate the game. With the exception of the Buck Showalter years, I really have known no real coach other then Joe. The more I think of it, the more i realize that 13 years is a very long time for one person to hold that job.

I also found out from my friend who works in the ticketing dept that season ticket holders are going to get their choice of buying all star tickets for their seat and it wont be a lottery type deal. Im really not interested in going to the game but the HR derby should be a blast.
This is what it says on their site. If anyone knows what "commercially reasonable business efforts" means, please explain

Existing Full Season, A Plan and B Plan Ticket Licensees (2007 season and prior):
MLB and the Yankees will use commercially reasonable business efforts to offer Full Season, A Plan and B Plan Ticket Licensees the opportunity to purchase a license, for Tickets, equal to the quantity of Ticket(s) in said Ticket Licensee's Ticket Account, not necessarily in the same seat locations (subject to availability), for the All-Star events scheduled to be held at the Stadium. All-Star events consist of the following: the DHL All-Star FanFest (to be held at the Jacob K. Javits Center), the Taco Bell All-Star Sunday, (featuring the XM All-Star Futures Game and the Taco Bell Legends & Celebrity Softball Game, the Gatorade Workout Day (featuring the State Farm Home Run Derby) and the 79th MLB All-Star Game.

[Steam]

I'm happy to know that chances are in 2008 if someone isn't playing well, they'll not be playing. It won't take a freak broken wrist.
I also feel there won't be 10-15 times this year where the top setup guy is pitching in a 6+ run game.

I take it that you forgot to send Torre a Valentine's Day card?

[Steam]

I still think its going to be weird not seeing Joe Torre on the bench. About the time of the strike in 94 was when I was really starting to understand and appreciate the game. With the exception of the Buck Showalter years, I really have known no real coach other then Joe. The more I think of it, the more i realize that 13 years is a very long time for one person to hold that job.

I also found out from my friend who works in the ticketing dept that season ticket holders are going to get their choice of buying all star tickets for their seat and it wont be a lottery type deal. Im really not interested in going to the game but the HR derby should be a blast.

So, you missed out on the Dallas Green/Bucky Dent/Stump Merrill years? Consider yourself lucky. The Martin/Berra/Martin/Pinella/Martin years were at least entertaining and somewhat competitive.

[BaLZaC~308]

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[Steam]

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You better get in now and say your piece, you don't want to be called a non-fan when the Yankees win the Series.

Be dialin' people!

[Dopie Opie]

In ......

I read the article in the Daily News today about Jeter. Been working with Jorge and Shelley Duncan. He normally starts the year around 210 lbs and is coming in right now at 197. Says he is adjusting for age, leaner and faster.

It should be fun to see how this all shakes out. We have a real manager and, I don't want to bash Guidry, but looks like Eiland really knows what is going on with these kids.

I am looking forward to this year more than the last 4-5 to be honest.

[mik3]

I got in during the Dallas Green/Bucky Dent era, that was fun. I'm pretty excited about this year. I'm also really excited about what the bench will be. They might be stuck with Duncan though, because of his ability to play RF. Though Nick Green did play some OF in the minors and can play pretty much the entire infield.

Unless Duncan kills it in the spring I'd like them to carry Ensberg to randomly spell guys at 1b/DH against lefties.

[Perch1019]

I got in during the Dallas Green/Bucky Dent era, that was fun. I'm pretty excited about this year.


I was a yankee fan befor 94 but I really didnt fully understand the game then. It was around 94 when I started to understand the importance of pitching, managing, etc.

Im very excited for this season but I find I say that every year. With the Rangers bordering on mediocrity and the Knicks just a total embarassment, I need something to root for. The pitching is one of the most exciting things to come from this team in years. I really like that it could be total domination or a complete mess. Joba should stay in the pen but with what they gave Mo, he really has nowhere to go if he doesnt start.

[Steam]

Joba should stay in the pen but with what they gave Mo, he really has nowhere to go if he doesnt start.

Joba should start the year in the pen if they are generally concerned with keeping tabs on his innings, but his long-term future is as a starter. He's too fucking good to be limited to set-up guy. They'll be fine in the bullpen if some of the young guys develop and they get a modicum of production out of Farnsworth.

[mik3]

Joba pitched about 105 innings last year. So he should probably do another 25-30 in the pen to start the year then another 100 as a starter. Pull any of the three kids out of games with 4 or more run leads after the fifth.

[rustytrombone1]

So, you missed out on the Dallas Green/Bucky Dent/Stump Merrill years? Consider yourself lucky. The Martin/Berra/Martin/Pinella/Martin years were at least entertaining and somewhat competitive.

What about the Bob Lemon/Billy Martin/Dick Howser/Billy Martin you're fired, you can't fire me I quit years?

[Dopie Opie]

What about the Bob Lemon/Billy Martin/Dick Howser/Billy Martin you're fired, you can't fire me I quit years?

You forgot Lou Pinella, Clyde King and Gene Michael. What a mess growing up a Yankee fan in the 70's....

[thetick130]

hey norton23, im a fan.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

love this picture

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/images/fan_forum/wallpaper/800x600_yankee_stadium.jpg
hey norton23, im a fan.

:haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7:

[CM Mark]

Enjoy being the #2 team in New York this year guys. :action-sm

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Giants #1, Yankees #2....Rangers #3, Islanders #4, Mets #5, Jets #6, Knicks #7

[mik3]

Enjoy being the #2 team in New York this year guys. :action-sm
Wasn't this the same BS that was spouted off for the better part of last year also?

We all know how that turned out.

[CM Mark]

Giants #1, Yankees #2....Rangers #3, Islanders #4, Mets #5, Jets #6, Knicks #7

Wasn't this the same BS that was spouted off for the better part of last year also?

We all know how that turned out.

I'm just getting in now so that at the end of the season norton23 thinks I'm a fan when I jump on the bandwagon.

[mik3]

hahahaha

touché

[mik3]

So Joba's going to the pen to start the year. Going to the minors some time in June to be stretched out. Then make about 15 starts for the big club.

[Perch1019]

So Joba's going to the pen to start the year. Going to the minors some time in June to be stretched out. Then make about 15 starts for the big club.

Has this been confirmed by the Yankees? Anything you read in the NY Post that has the EXCLUSIVE stamp on it needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

[TheTruth]

Has this been confirmed by the Yankees? Anything you read in the NY Post that has the EXCLUSIVE stamp on it needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

Anything said in the begining of February also has to be taken with a grain of salt

[Jimmy's Dignity]

true...but ESPN is reporting it too (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3242295)

[askewcore]

true...but ESPN is reporting it too (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3242295)

But using the Post as their source. I never believe anything in the Post until I can verify it independently.


The New York Post reported Tuesday that New York Yankees phenom Joba Chamberlain will begin the season as Mariano Rivera's setup man, then be sent down to the minors in June to stretch out his arm so he can be part of New York's rotation for the second half.

A couple days ago the Yankees said they were gonna have him prep to start, with the thinking being its easier to go from starting to the pen then vice versa.

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080208&content_id=2368804&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

[mik3]

Going from starting to the pen is retarded though, and I didn't believe it when they brought it up.

Meanwhile there's two really good cases in the last five years of guys going from the pen to starting.

[mik3]

New SI Yanks logos

http://www.siyanks.com/news/index.html?article_id=359

[ginaf20697]

Damn those are fug.

[mik3]

I like it more than the super generic old SI Yanks logo. That Sunday sleeve patch is real cool.

[Steam]

Just saw that Phil's jersey number is now officially 34. Will be ordering the jersey shortly. My first authentic baseball jersey splurge but I think it'll be worth it.

[fkornre]

Amen and lets hope so brother!

It was refreshing to see they didn't sell off the young pitchers and they didn't throw money at Santana. I'm ready for Spring training already!!!

i couldnt agree more...:clap::clap:

i have a great feeling about this season...

[mik3]

Just saw that Phil's jersey number is now officially 34. Will be ordering the jersey shortly. My first authentic baseball jersey splurge but I think it'll be worth it.
Guy I play hockey with owns a 65 jersey, it's so useless. It's more or less a September call up number.

I kinda think Joba won't stick with 62 so that's why I'm not taking that plunge. He needs his number to add up to 8 so I'm expecting him to snatch 35 when Mussina's done after 08.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yikes...those SI logos blow. But...they're not the minors for no reason

[Steam]

Guy I play hockey with owns a 65 jersey, it's so useless. It's more or less a September call up number.

I kinda think Joba won't stick with 62 so that's why I'm not taking that plunge. He needs his number to add up to 8 so I'm expecting him to snatch 35 when Mussina's done after 08.

For a while it seemed like he was going to stick with it. Its what he's been saying for months now but then he just dropped the bomb that he was changing it. Fucking mlb.com still has Henn as 34 so I don't know if I order that if they will switch it to Henn's number or not and just give me 34. Fuckers.

My mom was going to buy me a Joba for Christmas but I told her to wait since I'm not sure he will stick with that one either.

[mik3]

I think they're trying for simple logos all through the organziation. Tampa, Trenton, Scranton, SI. Wouldn't be surprised if they calmed Charleston's logo down also.

[FullBallz]

I am very excited about this season. I'm glad that they didn't mortgage the future for Santana. If he gets hurt while Hughes wins 17 games I will be VERY happy. There's no reason that they shouldn't make the playoffs, barring injury of course. With what the Post said...it's the Post. I don't believe a thing that that they or that ass-hat Joel Sherman has to say. I say just put Joba in the 5th spot and you'll see his innings be kept at a minimum. There's so much talk about him, just let him start already jeez.

If you guys aren't aware, be sure to check out Peter Abraham's blog. Great writer. He's got links to other blogs by reports and fans as well as our own Phil Hughes. The link is: http://yankees.lhblogs.com

I also found out from my friend who works in the ticketing dept that season ticket holders are going to get their choice of buying all star tickets for their seat and it wont be a lottery type deal. Im really not interested in going to the game but the HR derby should be a blast.
This is what it says on their site. If anyone knows what "commercially reasonable business efforts" means, please explain

That's outstanding. I have the A plan in the RF bleachers so I'm in prime real estate for the HR derby. I'm really happy I'll be able to sit in my seat. I just hope the price isn't super crazy. I know it'll be a lot but hopefully not $500 for the whole week's happenings. What they mean by that commercially reasonable stuff is that it's pretty much "If we move you because we have to put press in your seats, tough shit, this is what you signed up for." They are just covering their ass in case something happens.

[mik3]

Abraham is great, when he doesn't use interject his opinion. When he's just reporting what he sees then his blog is great.

[Perch1019]

That's outstanding. I have the A plan in the RF bleachers so I'm in prime real estate for the HR derby. I'm really happy I'll be able to sit in my seat. I just hope the price isn't super crazy. I know it'll be a lot but hopefully not $500 for the whole week's happenings. What they mean by that commercially reasonable stuff is that it's pretty much "If we move you because we have to put press in your seats, tough shit, this is what you signed up for." They are just covering their ass in case something happens.

He told me that if its your 1st season getting tickets, your going to go into a lottery if you have A & B plans. If you have either one of those with more then a year, your allowed to buy the amount of tickets in your account but might not get your own for the game.

[Perch1019]

The more I look at this place, the more excited I get. Sucks we have to wait a whole nother year for it.
The one downside is how you can tell how much smaller the seating areas are compared to the current one. The upper deck is noticeable but not that bad. The lower level just looks weird with only the one section.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j245/datkatz/ysnew.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/taylam75/nyff1090207171024x768zq0.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/taylam75/2248286112_bd3185615a_o.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/taylam75/2247491411_24513d0b87_o.jpg

[mik3]

I enjoy that the Yankees will continue the have the best talent and stadium in the city going into the rest of this century.

[jimmyjimjimz]

The more I look at this place, the more excited I get. Sucks we have to wait a whole nother year for it.
The one downside is how you can tell how much smaller the seating areas are compared to the current one. The upper deck is noticeable but not that bad. The lower level just looks weird with only the one section.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j245/datkatz/ysnew.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/taylam75/nyff1090207171024x768zq0.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/taylam75/2248286112_bd3185615a_o.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii301/taylam75/2247491411_24513d0b87_o.jpg

Theyre supposed to add a level onto the lower level. That's supposed to be the field box level. Here's a pic of the most recent model of the new stadium that I can find:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/jimmyjimjimz/YS_Model08_1.jpg

[ginaf20697]

Weird not being able to see the courthouse.

[mik3]

Look who showed up in shape.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080220/i/r417936455.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080220/i/r3062453478.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080220/capt.928ba67e4b3c4fffa604703a128a243d.yankees_spri ng_baseball_fljj113.jpg

we all know Jorge and Andy are talking shit about ARod over his head, since they all hate him.

[mik3]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080219/i/r2492591280.jpg

Holy shit, that's Bruney with Pettitte.

[RobeSoup&Tears]

Cool pic JD...I actually like the seats just to the left of that. (between Home and 3rd).

This season should be interesting and sad with the whole Stadium thing...I've gone there since the mid 70's

<<< MUST GET LAST HOME GAME TICKETS.

[Perch1019]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080220/capt.928ba67e4b3c4fffa604703a128a243d.yankees_spri ng_baseball_fljj113.jpg

we all know Jorge and Andy are talking shit about ARod over his head, since they all hate him.

That really made me laugh. Bravo.
Girardi called Giambino at home when he got the job and told her he needed to be in shape for the season. He worked out 6 days of the week with some former Worlds Strongman guy.



<<< MUST GET LAST HOME GAME TICKETS.

S O L D O U T. I checked my season ticket account today and it said that all tickets to the final reg season game are already sold out. I was under the impression that I would have a chance to get 2 more but I never even had the chance. I do have an extra one but will probably sell that to help pay for the tickets this season. Its not the most fan friendly thing to do but for what the yanks are charging me for my tickets, i really have no choice.

[jimmyjimjimz]

when do single game tickets go on sale? I'm unemployed right now, so obviously I can't get season tickets, and even if I did still work @ Home Depot, I doubt I'd make enough to get season tix. I've been trying to talk my dad into getting them, but he's in the air conditioning business, so he's usually busy in the summer, so he can't really go to a lot of games, and he doesnt really have it in him anymore to go to baseball games. He still goes, but he can't go as much as we used to go.

I'd like to go to the last game of the season, but I highly doubt I'll be able to, obviously cause I'd have to buy tix from a scalper, and I'd probably have to pay way more than I have. As long as I get to go to 1 game this year, I'll be happy. I don't care what day it is, wether it's a day game or night game, or who it's against. I just wanna go to 1 game this year.

[Perch1019]

This article is exactly why the NY sports media sucks a big fat cock. Arod makes a joke and they jump all over it like he wanted Andy Pettite, whos 35, to marry his daughter whos 3. Give the guy a fucking break.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/02/21/2008-02-21_strange_love_arod_would_love_to_have_and.html

How much does Alex Rodriguez love Andy Pettitte?

Enough that he wishes his daughter could marry him.

Never mind that A-Rod's little one is all of 3 years old and that Pettitte is 35, married and the father of four children.

"If I had a daughter, I would want her to marry Andy Pettitte," Rodriguez told reporters. "That's the biggest compliment I could give.

"The age difference might be a little awkward, but in today's day and age anything is possible," he said to laughter.

Rodriguez's wife, Cynthia, gave birth to their first daughter in 2004. Their second child, another girl, is due this spring.

He made the joke - at least we hope he's joking - in his first remarks after arriving in Tampa for spring training in his fifth season with the Bombers.

The subject inevitably turned to steroids and Pettitte, who made a liar out of ex-teammate Roger Clemens by telling Congress that Clemens had talked to him about taking human growth hormone.

On Monday, Pettitte apologized to the team and fans for taking HGH.

With Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada and Mariano Rivera looking on in support, Pettitte blamed his "stupidity" and "desperation" for taking HGH in 2002 with the Yankees and in 2004 while with the Houston Astros.

Rodriguez had nothing but praise for Pettitte.

"I thought he handled himself very well and I thought he was very honest. Andy is one of the greatest human beings I've ever met," Rodriguez said, before practically promising his daughters' hand in marriage.

Pettitte's response was short and sweet: "I already have a wife." Still, he said he appreciated A-Rod's support.

"I've gotten to know Alex last year and we've built a great relationship. I try to build relationships with the guys I compete with," Pettitte said.

"I love Alex and I appreciate that he would say that about me."

[jimmyjimjimz]

stubhub.com has the last regular season home game ever @ The Stadium going for $17,551 per ticket. Anyone interested?

that's probably where I'm gonna have to get my tickets this year. I know I'm most likely not gonna get to go to the last game, but I'd like to go to the game the day before, as long as I can find a reasonable price.

[mik3]

Dear god,

Please let Bartolo Colon make 15 or more starts for the Red Sox this year.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

when do single game tickets go on sale? I'm unemployed right now, so obviously I can't get season tickets, and even if I did still work @ Home Depot, I doubt I'd make enough to get season tix. I've been trying to talk my dad into getting them, but he's in the air conditioning business, so he's usually busy in the summer, so he can't really go to a lot of games, and he doesnt really have it in him anymore to go to baseball games. He still goes, but he can't go as much as we used to go.

I'd like to go to the last game of the season, but I highly doubt I'll be able to, obviously cause I'd have to buy tix from a scalper, and I'd probably have to pay way more than I have. As long as I get to go to 1 game this year, I'll be happy. I don't care what day it is, wether it's a day game or night game, or who it's against. I just wanna go to 1 game this year.


Single game tickets go on sale this Friday morning.

[askewcore]

Dear god,

Please let Bartolo Colon make 15 or more starts for the Red Sox this year.

I thought the same thing. And I hope 8 of them are against the Yankees.

[RobeSoup&Tears]

Does anyone know the Pre-Sale Password for the Single Season Tickets?
(assuming it's the same for all.)

Thanks in advance.

[askewcore]

Does anyone know the Pre-Sale Password for the Single Season Tickets?
(assuming it's the same for all.)

Thanks in advance.

try this site, they have alot of inside info (http://meatspin.com)

[jimmyjimjimz]

try this site, they have alot of inside info (http://meatspin.com)

you douche.

why does everyone have to do that? lol

[askewcore]

why does everyone have to do that? lol

We are all scum.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

w00t!!! Just got 2 tickets to Yanks vs. Red Sox on August 27th

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Fuckin hour and a half to get 4 upper deck tickets vs the Royals! :arrrh:

[Perch1019]

I got the 61 game package this season and am finally realizing how many games that is. Im probably going to use about 10-15 of them and then give another 20 or so to clients and shit. If anyone wants some, send me a PM and id sell them for what I pay which is around 40 a seat.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I got the 61 game package this season and am finally realizing how many games that is. Im probably going to use about 10-15 of them and then give another 20 or so to clients and shit. If anyone wants some, send me a PM and id sell them for what I pay which is around 40 a seat.

definitely will do. How many seats do you have?

[Perch1019]

I got 3. Its in the first section of the upper. 652, row D. Im not looking to make money off them so whatever I paid, thats what Id charge for em

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Bobby Murcer's brain cancer could be back (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=txyankeesmurcer&prov=st&type=lgns)

:( :( :( :(

[Steam]

Bobby Murcer's brain cancer could be back (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=txyankeesmurcer&prov=st&type=lgns)

:( :( :( :(

Ouch. Hopefully it works out for him.

[mik3]

Igawa gave up the only runs/one of the two hits in the game today against USF.

[Steam]

Any word if they are wearing both patches the entire year? I'm going to order a Hughes jersey (once mlb.com updates his number) and want to get it as accurate as possible.

[Stormrider666]

I was just listening to Mike and Mad Dog and they had Sweetie Murty on. Couple of things brought up:

Girardi wants to get Damon, about 600 abs. So that makes him the everyday LF.

Leading to Matsui and Giambi to fight over the DH spot.

Latroy Hawkins and Kyle Farnsworth are being looked at for the set-up guys. I know I just got worried typing that out.

[mik3]

Giambi's the first baseman till he breaks down.

Joba's the set up guy if he starts in the pen, and by the time he goes down to stretch out I full expect one out of Whelan/Sanchez/Melancon be up with the team and pitching well.

[ginaf20697]

Bobby Murcer's brain cancer could be back (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=txyankeesmurcer&prov=st&type=lgns)

:( :( :( :(

Shit and I left him off my deathpool this year :(

[mik3]

First actual spring training game today, 5-1 Yankees, 5rbi by Duncan through 3.

[RobeSoup&Tears]

Bobby Murcer's brain cancer could be back (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=txyankeesmurcer&prov=st&type=lgns)

:( :( :( :(

Bobby is one of the Classiest Yankees ever.

Get better Sir. :(

[askewcore]

First actual spring training game today, 5-1 Yankees, 5rbi by Duncan through 3.

1st TV game is tomorrow right?

[mik3]

Yeah, tomorrow on YES, Mutts are playing today(maybe right now even) on 11.

[mik3]

How do we know baseball's back? ARod hit a HR and Jon Lester walked four in an inning today.

[mik3]

Giambi looks amazing live. Someone wants a new contract.

There aren't any guys looking obviously out of shape like last year.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

no way in hell does he get $20+ million again

nice double though...Abreu hustling from 1st all the way to score. Nice to see them busting ass in Spring Training

[Max Johnson]

Giambi's looking to hit to LCF. Finally. I've been saying this since he got here. He should have been doing this from the get go like he did (very successfully) in Oaktown.

Phills throwing two lefties against the Yanks. It's not working today but the Yanks (like the Mets) are still stacked with lefties.

[Perch1019]

Im hoping that preseason HD means that every game this season will be like this.

[Stormrider666]

Giambi looks amazing live. Someone wants a new contract.

There aren't any guys looking obviously out of shape like last year.

This one statement is probably why it was time for Torre to move on. Donnie Baseball is on record saying, that for the past couple of years, he felt team wasn't ready when it left camp.

[mik3]

Just a little thing, numerous dodgers players showed up out of shape, Andruw reported at about 250lbs.

[Perch1019]

Just a little thing, numerous dodgers players showed up out of shape, Andruw reported at about 250lbs.

in joes defense he just took over this season. Ill agree his coaching style became very laxed after a couple winning seasons but you cant put that on his head for the Dodgers yet.
They over paid for Jones anyways. Couple of seasons ago you give him 18 mil per season. Not in 2008.

Im so excited for Giambi this season. The last couple of seasons, hes been an Allen Houston like albatross for them but I got a feeling hes going to make up for it with a huge year. Hes in shape and hitting the ball well again.

[mik3]

Players around the league know what managers they can work less for, Torre obviously is one of them.

[askewcore]

Im so excited for Giambi this season. The last couple of seasons, hes been an Allen Houston like albatross for them but I got a feeling hes going to make up for it with a huge year. Hes in shape and hitting the ball well again.

Great comparison. He looks like he is in incredible shape. Probably the best I ever seen him when he wasnt on the juice out in Oakland. If he can play like 140 games at first and play solid, and Damon plays consistent LF it gives us a really solid defensive everyday outfield.

[Perch1019]

Yes its only his first start but Moose got fucking rocked today. 6 Hits, 5 runs, 4 earned in 2 innings.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://eben.com/press/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/slate_meh_small.jpg

I'm far from surprised...Mike shoulda hung em up after last year's piece of shit season

[tysonpunchinguterus]

Well, the good news is that he'll probably finish the season in long relief to let whichever guy out of Joba or Kennedy doesn't start the year in the rotation--assuming Moose even starts the year in the rotation at all, which I think he probably will just to keep the young guys from getting too many innings.


I'm far from surprised...Mike shoulda hung em up after last year's piece of shit season

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Moose in the starting line-up = immediate experience for LONG relief...love what Mikey did for us, but 4 and a 3rd during the regular season isn't acceptable for a starter :yuck2:

yes I know it hasn't happened yet, but I guarantee it will, if not shorter, if he's a starter

[Perch1019]

The only plus for having Moose on the team right now is that hes been a big mentor to the 3 youngins.
Other then that, I dont think hes going to be of much use this season.

[mik3]

It's one spring start, he's ALWAYS been horrible in the spring. And he supposedly didn't look bad at all, he just couldn't put people away. And, he threw 150 innings last year after missing a whole month, it's not like he's Roger Clemens. He'll get 180+ innings at probably a 4.50, it's not terrible for a 5. Though it wouldn't shock me if he did better, his velocity is supposedly there already.

[Perch1019]

My friend who works for the Yankees just sent this out. I dont have a link to a story but its the press release from their media relations:

MARCH 5, 2008



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE



STATEMENT FROM BOBBY MURCER

RE: FORMER YANKEE AND CURRENT YES NETWORK BROADCASTER



“We received great news this morning. The biopsy revealed scar tissue. It showed no signs of cancer. We are very excited about this news. It’s what we had hoped for all along. We are checking out today (from M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston) and are flying back to Oklahoma. I plan on resting at home over the next few weeks and focusing my energy on returning to the Stadium for its final Opening Day. My family and I thank everyone for their prayers, e-mails, cards and thoughts.”

[Stormrider666]

My friend who works for the Yankees just sent this out. I dont have a link to a story but its the press release from their media relations:

That's good to hear. I enjoy hearing Murcer doing the Yankees games.

[Mother Shucker]

Good for Murcer.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

I'm glad Murcer got good news. He's always seemed like one of the nicest people in sports.

[mik3]

I know this will come as a complete shock to everyone but Vizcaino is experiencing serious elbow problems in Rockies camp.

[askewcore]

I know this will come as a complete shock to everyone but Vizcaino is experiencing serious elbow problems in Rockies camp.

They should just call that Joe Torre syndrome. How many arms did that fucker burn out by throwing the same guys everyday? It was really like at least one a season.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

They should just call that Joe Torre syndrome. How many arms did that fucker burn out by throwing the same guys everyday? It was really like at least one a season.

Why do you think there was a new go-to guy every year? Quantrill, Proctor, Vizcaino. Looks like Farnsworth is the smart one for sucking. If he did good, he'd have thrown 120 innings last year too.

Poor Scott Proctor. Torre followed him to LA.

[mik3]

Moose looked great today, put away those guys he couldn't with 2 strikes the other day. 5k in 2 2/3

[Jimmy's Dignity]

sooooo....Farnsworth's back-page headline was nothing but truth, eh?

[Dopie Opie]

I guess we all know why Joba came with his own rules last year......so Torre could not fuck him up too.

[Steam]

I guess we all know why Joba came with his own rules last year......so Torre could not fuck him up too.

I thought that was common knowledge last year.

[mik3]

Phil Hughes > the world

[FullBallz]

<fingers crossed> Please stay healthy. Please stay healthy. Please stay healthy <fingers crossed>

[Jimmy's Dignity]

sweet, he went 9 straight, then walked 2. 1 strikeout, no hits...

so glad we didn't ship him away for Johan

[Steam]

sweet, he went 9 straight, then walked 2. 1 strikeout, no hits...

so glad we didn't ship him away for Johan

x2

I don't know where he will rank when all is said and done but I love having young players to root for again rather than the nonstop parade of unlikeable mercenaries.

I need to order that Hughes jersey too.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

I'm far from surprised...Mike shoulda hung em up after last year's piece of shit season

Yeah, and not collect $12 million?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Yeah, and not collect $12 million?

actually...he makes $19 million :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

[LilJimmyRbinson]

actually...he makes $19 million :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:


I thought they signed him for 2/$24 after 2006?

[mik3]

Mussina makes just under 11mil this year.

[mik3]

Combined shutout.

Joba 2.1 2h 0r 0bb 1k
Traber(W) .2 1h 0r 0bb 1k
Rivera 1ip 0h 0r 0bb 1k
Kennedy 4ip 2h 0r 1bb 2k
Hawkins 1ip 1h 0r 0bb 0k

Joba picked Jay Bruce off.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Mussina makes just under 11mil this year.

really? Someone should tell ESPN so they can adjust their payroll numbers...


........oh wait, it's the Yankees

[FullBallz]

I am really liking how this pitching staff is coming together. Especially the kids. Granted, it's not against top flight guys yet and it's not August but still it's something to get excited about.

[TheTruth]

Farnsworth is lucky he wasn't taken out in back of the stadium and shot last year, he is fucking terrible and needs to keep his mouth shut.

[mik3]

Farnsworth is lucky he wasn't taken out in back of the stadium and shot last year, he is fucking terrible and needs to keep his mouth shut.
He's the exact type of pitcher that you need a competent manager with though, he didn't have one, he said something about it.

I'm so hyped at how much better this team will be run, especially with the pitching. The pitching coach didn't get his job 'cause he was someone's friend and the manager seems to actually care who's the best available, not who he's pre-slotted into an inning.

[bill333]

It'll be interesting to see how this year goes, fellas - new coach, young guns. I only wish it were the new stadium already to really get a fresh start. Gonna be weird to say goodbye to the old one but since it's basically the same, maybe the ghosts will follow. It'd be cool to get a bunch of 'Baggers together for a game. The Bleacher Creatures can have their section, we'd have "The Douchebag Section"

Here's to pounding the Red Sox :drunk:

[askewcore]

The pitching coach didn't get his job 'cause he was someone's friend

But...But...he is not an old Yankee. I think Andy Hawkins should get the pitching coach job and Alvaro Espinoza should be the third base coach.

[TheTruth]

He's the exact type of pitcher that you need a competent manager with though, he didn't have one, he said something about it.



Yeah he is a shitty inconsistent pitcher, who from his remarks needs someone on his ass to get him pitch well. Give me a break he is a fucking professional, if says he is doing poorly because of the manager maybe this isn’t the job for him.

[GarlicButterSau]

Sorry to be late to the party fellas,

Just watched the outing against the Blue Jays yesterday. Not bad. I'm real excited about all that young pitching. Hughes, Kennedy, and Joba could be a difficult rotation to face. Especially if Kennedy gets all of his pitches working the way he did for part of last year.

Bullpen still concerns me... Sorry to be that guy but someone fill me in on what Farnsworth said. (btw - I think he's a tool)

I'm all for a Pest outing to a game this season. Any dates in mind?

[TheTruth]

Sorry to be late to the party fellas,

Just watched the outing against the Blue Jays yesterday. Not bad. I'm real excited about all that young pitching. Hughes, Kennedy, and Joba could be a difficult rotation to face. Especially if Kennedy gets all of his pitches working the way he did for part of last year.

Bullpen still concerns me... Sorry to be that guy but someone fill me in on what Farnsworth said. (btw - I think he's a tool)

I'm all for a Pest outing to a game this season. Any dates in mind?

SARASOTA, Fla. - Perhaps no Yankee is happier than Kyle Farnsworth about the switch from Joe Torre to Joe Girardi. And not just because he doesn't have to listen to Torre call him "Farnsie" anymore.

Farnsworth said yesterday that he thought Torre lost confidence in him in 2007.

"Oh, yeah, for sure," Farnsworth said before throwing a scoreless inning (one walk, one strikeout) in the Yankees' 12-8 exhibition loss to the Reds.

"I always have confidence in myself, definitely," he said. "But it's tough when you do lose the confidence from your manager to maybe prepare yourself day in and day out when you have no clue about anything."

Farnsworth criticized the way the Yankees handled him last season, saying no one asked him if he could pitch on consecutive days or in the middle of an inning, two things Torre was reluctant to have him do. The Yankees decided unilaterally on "The Farnsworth Rules," according to the reliever.

"I know that's been going on in the past, especially last year," he said. "They decided not to use me back-to-back days. They never came up to me and asked me. I don't know why that came about."

Well, it came about for a few reasons. Farnsworth, though ineffective for most of the season, did much better the more rest he got in 2007 (2.70 ERA on two days' rest, 5.47 with one, 7.11 with none). His balky back would lock up without notice and make him unavailable, and Joba Chamberlain emerged in September to make Farnsworth basically unnecessary.

So the Yankees' key eighth-inning reliever in 2006 became a highly paid middle man. He was 2-1 with a 4.80 ERA in 2007. His strikeouts dropped from 10.8 per nine innings in 2006 to 7.2.

Farnsworth is in the final year of a three-year, $17-million free-agent contract, but the Yankees have decided not to try to move him. General manager Brian Cashman is on record as saying he's glad he didn't deal Farnsworth at last season's trade deadline.

The Yankees are putting their money on the hope that Girardi, Farnsworth's former catcher with the Cubs, and new pitching coach Dave Eiland can find the consistency that has eluded the hard thrower in his two years as a Yankee. That lack of consistent results is why he's one of the least popular Yankees in recent memory.

"I really don't care if anyone holds anything against me for [the last] two years," he said. "Change is good. As far as I'm concerned, every year is a new year. It's good to have Joe here because we played together. We had a relationship before. The first thing he said is everybody here has a clean slate, starts fresh with him."

Girardi has tried to get into Farnsworth's head, as he did in 2000, the pitcher's second season. "I was a young kid coming up and he looked out for me, took me under his wing," Farnsworth said. "Taught me how to pitch a little bit. Just told me I had good stuff, to just trust it and throw it and quit trying to be so fine. Trust yourself, trust your catcher and just throw the ball."

Eiland has used the technological approach, showing Farnsworth video and suggesting he change the way he breaks his hands.

"Trying to get them out earlier," Farnsworth said. "Give my arm a chance to catch up with the rest of my body instead of having it lag behind. My arm was dragging. I can definitely see a difference."

Said Girardi: "I still think he's got a lot in him. And I'm not just talking about this year. I think he can be extremely successful. I think he can play a huge part in our bullpen this year."

[mik3]

There's men,
There's real men,
Then there's Shelley Duncan.

[bill333]

Well, Farnsworth has no excuse this season - he better put up after running his mouth.




Sorry to be so brazen but to Farnsworth, I say, "Let's see what you got, Bucko!"

man, I hope I don't get good scolding for that language

[Stormrider666]

I understand the whole thing about Torre mishandling pitchers, but Farnsworth really shouldn't be running his mouth. You know how many times I almost threw my remote contoller at TV, when he was on the mound. Oh yeah, Shelly Duncan rules.

[Perch1019]

There's men,
There's real men,
Then there's Shelley Duncan.

This isnt the Joe Torre Yankees anymore. I was so sick of seeing teams just bitch the Yankees around the last couple of seasons with NO repercussions.

I cant wait until Boston throws at Jeter this season and Phil reaches back and takes fucking Pedroias head off with heat. Lets see that fat ape just lean over the plate like its his.

[Max Johnson]

This isnt the Joe Torre Yankees anymore. I was so sick of seeing teams just bitch the Yankees around the last couple of seasons with NO repercussions.

I cant wait until Boston throws at Jeter this season and Phil reaches back and takes fucking Pedroias head off with heat. Lets see that fat ape just lean over the plate like its his.

Goddamn right. Shelly Duncan is the logical successor to the Graeme Lloyd enforcer role that the Yanks have left unfilled for years with nothing but corporate emotionless robotic wusses.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

There's men,
There's real men,
Then there's Shelley Duncan.

Aint that the truth...nice lil brawl courtesy of Mr. Duncan (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2008/news/story?id=3289751)

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4859/mlbaduncanslide400ud3.jpg

[mik3]

Shelley's foot is about as big as my thigh.

And yeah, Matsuzaka made it a habit of hitting ARod last year, I don't see that happening again.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

Actually, Eiland is an old Yankee. Forgettable, sure, but an old Yankee nonetheless.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/4239/

But...But...he is not an old Yankee. I think Andy Hawkins should get the pitching coach job and Alvaro Espinoza should be the third base coach.

[Steam]

I have Iwamura on my fantasy team but Duncan doing that was fucking awesome. Have to love crazy Shelley Duncan.

[FullBallz]

Shelley Duncan > Chuck Norris

I am so happy to finally see some fire in this fucking team. I actually WANT to root for this team. It changed for me since the middle of last year. And yeah Farnsworth has no right to open his mouth however if he is lights out this year he might have a point.

[ginaf20697]

All I ask is that they don't sleep until June like they've been doing lately.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

All I ask is that they don't sleep until June like they've been doing lately.

Won't that be nice?

[askewcore]

Hey! Billy Crystal is batting leadoff! Isnt this great?


fucking disgrace. I hope that dumb old jew takes his stupid spring training jersey and climbs into a giant oven.

Happy 60th birthday you washed up old jizzbag.

[TheTruth]

Hey! Billy Crystal is batting leadoff! Isnt this great?


fucking disgrace. I hope that dumb old jew takes his stupid spring training jersey and climbs into a giant oven.

Happy 60th birthday you washed up old jizzbag.

Yeah he is such a huge Yankees fan that in the dumb City Slickers movies he wears a Mets hat.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

fuck hm...he's a shtty comedian, hopefully he'll catch a linedrive right in the traechia

[Jimmy's Dignity]

who the hell is this wearing #35? He's fucking perfect through 5!


watch, his only career no-no, and it comes in the fucking preseason

[mik3]

Yeah he is such a huge Yankees fan that in the dumb City Slickers movies he wears a Mets hat.
It was some agreement he made with the producer. He was able to pretty much edit the script whenever he wanted, if he wore a Mets hat.

And, this team won't stumble out the gates 'cause they're in actual baseball shape now.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Duncan & Cabrera suspended, Girardi fined (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2008/news/story?id=3293500)

Melky & Shelley both got 3 games, Jonny Gomes on Tampa got 2. Girardi, 3rd base coach Bobby Meacham & Kevin Long (along w/ the players) were all fined


yesterday on Around the Horn they were talking about this...those fucking crotchety old men were calling for 10+ game suspensions for everyone on the Yanks, then were talking about how much bullshit it is that they're "engaging in the eye-for-an-eye headhunting which is killing baseball." Die you faggots.


in September when Beckett drills Jeter on the inside, if we don't retaliate in the next inning it's horseshit. You don't throw at someone's head.....you try to crush their ribs

[Stormrider666]

Yeah the past week of Yankee bias from certain people in the sports media has really pissed me off. Especially the whole Billy Crystal thing. I bet you no one would had a problem with it, if it was Stephen King doing it with the Red Sox.

[Steam]

Ok, with mlb.com's 20% sale (on purchases over $150) I'm going to order my Hughes jersey. I was going to use my $50 gift card on it but will save that for something else.

That being said should I pony up the extra $20 for the All-Star game patch that they will only wear through the game? I'm leaning towards yes but part of me wants it to be what they would be wearing come playoff time (knock on wood). Any thoughts? Sale ends Monday night.

[TheTruth]

Duncan & Cabrera suspended, Girardi fined (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2008/news/story?id=3293500)

Melky & Shelley both got 3 games, Jonny Gomes on Tampa got 2. Girardi, 3rd base coach Bobby Meacham & Kevin Long (along w/ the players) were all fined


yesterday on Around the Horn they were talking about this...those fucking crotchety old men were calling for 10+ game suspensions for everyone on the Yanks, then were talking about how much bullshit it is that they're "engaging in the eye-for-an-eye headhunting which is killing baseball." Die you faggots.


in September when Beckett drills Jeter on the inside, if we don't retaliate in the next inning it's horseshit. You don't throw at someone's head.....you try to crush their ribs

That is bull shit if you watch the video Duncan went in with his spikes a bit high, but he did not slide hard into the guy at all.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

That is bull shit if you watch the video Duncan went in with his spikes a bit high, but he did not slide hard into the guy at all.
but if you listen to the clownshoes on Around the Horn, he pulled a Chan Ho Park

http://www.iiiii.nu/image_archive/public_figures/park_chan_ho/angry.jpg

[Perch1019]

but if you listen to the clownshoes on Around the Horn, he pulled a Chan Ho Park



Those guys are all ass holes. I still dont understand how that show has lasted as long as it has.



Bartolos line from today: 0.2 IP 3 Hits 4 ERs 3 Walks 16.78 ERA
Pettite wasnt at his best either but at least he got some more innings in and didnt feel any pain in his elbow.

This is my favorite part of the ESPN article.
Pettitte threw an inside fastball to David Ortiz in the third that prompted a brief stare from the designated hitter.
Its only taken 5 seasons but theyre finally learning to pitch him inside.

[FullBallz]

Its only taken 5 seasons to get rid of Joe Torre and finally pitch him inside.

Fixed it for ya.

iN OTHER NEWS,

My tickets came today!!!! WOOOOO! Baseball is here bitches!! Here are some pics of my beauties. The cool thing is the special commemorative ticket for the final regular season game at the stadium. Totally framing that puppy.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/humanjukebox82/DSCN0391.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/humanjukebox82/DSCN0395.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/humanjukebox82/DSCN0400.jpg

[Perch1019]

I think its great and all that the Yanks go to Va Tech for that game but did they really need to kick the shit out of the 11-0?

[askewcore]

I think its great and all that the Yanks go to Va Tech for that game but did they really need to kick the shit out of the 11-0?

At least they didnt lose, like the Mets did when they played Michigan.

I didnt hear about this, was it split squad?

[Perch1019]

I didnt hear about this, was it split squad?

As far as I know it was a full squad. I put it on to see Arod up with the bases loaded and Abreu, Jeter and Damon ahead of him with Giambi in the hole. Guy ended up walking him and Giambi then hit a lazy fly to the warning track that had Michael Kay cumming in his pants.

[Stormrider666]

I think its great and all that the Yanks go to Va Tech for that game but did they really need to kick the shit out of the 11-0?

Well in the Yankees defense, VT's baseball team was in the middle of an 8 game losing streak.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/specials/spring_training/2008/03/19/joba.bullpen.ap/index.html

I'm sure this isn't really breaking news to many people at this point, but I'm glad that this was announced. As much as I look forward to seeing Joba as a starter, he gives the team a much stronger bullpen. It also means that the other 5 guys are all healthy and have looked good enough for Girardi and Cashman to feel comfortable with this arrangement for now. The last thing I'd want to see is Joba pitch too many innings and wreck his arm, so this is probably the better move for him and the team for now. If/when Mussina wears down, maybe Joba gets the call as long as it isn't too early in the season.

[askewcore]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/specials/spring_training/2008/03/19/joba.bullpen.ap/index.html

If/when Mussina wears down, maybe Joba gets the call as long as it isn't too early in the season.

My exact thoughts. You now Moose isnt gonna be healthy and/or strong the whole season. Joba in the pen gives us insurance in case Hawkins doesnt pan out well, and it also makes sure that Girardi doesnt have to be like Torre and pitch the same guys in the same innings day after day.

I still hope Joba is in the rotation by like July/August though. I'm also a fan of moving Mussina to the pen at some point, but that will never happen.

[jimmyjimjimz]

Here's a video I found. I don't know if anyone posted it yet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u8FxnHW8QE

Here's the link just in case the YouTube tags don't work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u8FxnHW8QE

[jimmyjimjimz]

Also, for those of you who live in the NYC area, and get channel 4 as NBC, they have a special on Yankee Stadium @ 7:00 tomorrow night.

[Perch1019]

That video was really cool. I didnt know that all the gates are going to look like the one in the front. The only thing I dont like about it is the view from the subway. The back of the scoreboard and stuff just looks dull.
I was also pleased to see the thing on the side where they put when the next game is going to be. Its such a small thing but its one of the staples of the current stadium. Any word on the bat?

[jimmyjimjimz]

That video was really cool. I didnt know that all the gates are going to look like the one in the front. The only thing I dont like about it is the view from the subway. The back of the scoreboard and stuff just looks dull.
I was also pleased to see the thing on the side where they put when the next game is going to be. Its such a small thing but its one of the staples of the current stadium. Any word on the bat?

I think theyre keeping the bat, actually. Isn't it a steam pipe? I'd be really mad if they got rid of the bat.

[askewcore]

I think the bat does serve as some kind of vent. They had better not get rid of it, its such a staple.

[ginaf20697]

nooooooooooooo! :(


Former Yankees 3B Nettles has cancer


TAMPA, FLORIDA (TICKER) —Graig Nettles, a former All-Star third baseman with the New York Yankees, announced Friday that he has been battling prostate cancer for the last four months.

Nettles was diagnosed with the disease in late November and will undergo prostate surgery next month.

The story was first reported by the New York Post, which stated that Nettles will have the operation on April 8 at Manhattan’s Sloan Kettering Hospital.

“They told me they got it early, and it’s curable and treatable,” Nettles told reporters. “I’ve just got to think positive.”

Despite the condition, Nettles claimed he did not want to miss spring training with the Yankees, who invited him to serve as a guest instructor.

“I always thought there would be an urgency in getting it out of your body,” he said. “But (my doctors) seem to think it wouldn’t matter for a couple months. So I told them I wanted to go to spring training.”

Nettles ,63, revealed that his brother, Jim, also was diagnosed with prostate cancer and underwent successful surgery.

A six-time All-Star and two-time Gold Glove winner, Nettles spent the majority of his 22-year career with the Yankees, manning third base for New York from 1973-83.

Nettles joined Bobby Murcer as members of the late-1970s Yankees who currently are battling cancer. Murcer was diagnosed with a brain tumor in December 2006.

The Yankees reached the postseason five times during Nettles’ tenure in pinstripes, winning the World Series in 1977 and 1978 while reaching the Fall Classic two other times.

A San Diego native, Nettles compiled a career average of .248 with 390 home runs in 2,700 games with six different teams.

[askewcore]

At least they got it early. Good luck, Graig...in case he reads Wackbag.

[jimmyjimjimz]

At least they got it early. Good luck, Graig...in case he reads Wackbag.

isn't he friends with O&A? I think they used his stadium for the softball games back in the WNEW days.

[Stormrider666]

isn't he friends with O&A? I think they used his stadium for the softball games back in the WNEW days.

If my memory sevres me, that was Rick Cerone's stadium they used. Hope everything works out okay for Nettles.

[askewcore]

If my memory sevres me, that was Rick Cerone's stadium they used.

It sure was. Home to the fabulous Newark Bears. I think I still have my ticket stub laying around somewhere.

[jimmyjimjimz]

If my memory sevres me, that was Rick Cerone's stadium they used. Hope everything works out okay for Nettles.

I knew it was someone who played for the Yankees

[EvilMonkey71]

I read yesterday in the paper that they put Pavano on the 60 day DL...shocker!! :arrrh:

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I hope it's due to a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head

[Stormrider666]

I read yesterday in the paper that they put Pavano on the 60 day DL...shocker!! :arrrh:

Pavano.....Pavano.......I'm sorry that name doesn't sound familiar to me.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

I read yesterday in the paper that they put Pavano on the 60 day DL...shocker!! :arrrh:

That's just the normal pre-requisite for him. Fuck him and his $40,000,000 robbery of the Yankees.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

It's just because he's still recovering from the surgery he had last season. Teams can't release a player while he's on the DL, so it's really just their way of clearing up a spot on the 40-man roster and politely telling him to collect his money and stay away from Yankee Stadium.

I read yesterday in the paper that they put Pavano on the 60 day DL...shocker!! :arrrh:

[LilJimmyRbinson]

It's just because he's still recovering from the surgery he had last season. Teams can't release a player while he's on the DL, so it's really just their way of clearing up a spot on the 40-man roster and politely telling him to collect his money and stay away from Yankee Stadium.

The worst part of this whole thing is that some NL team will sign him for $800k and he'll give them more in 2009 then he gave the Yankees in 4 years and $40 mil.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

A-Rod tried to fuck my wife!!!! Oh yeah, and I introduced him to a steroids distributor (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3311423)


Report: Canseco claims introducing A-Rod, steroids distributor

NEW YORK -- Jose Canseco says in his new book that he introduced Alex Rodriguez to a steroids distributor and that A-Rod pursued Canseco's wife, according to the Web site of freelance writer Joe Lavin.

Lavin says on his Web site that he obtained the book, "Vindicated: Big Names, Big Liars, and The Battle to Save Baseball," on Monday from a bookstore in Cambridge, Mass. The book is due to be released April 1.

Lavin writes Canseco's book discusses A-Rod, Roger Clemens and Magglio Ordonez.

He says Canseco claimed he didn't inject Rodriguez but "introduced Alex to a known supplier of steroids." Lavin also says "Canseco claims that A-Rod was trying to sleep with Canseco's wife."

"I really, absolutely, have no reaction," Rodriguez said Tuesday when asked about the claim relating to the steroids distributor. As far as the allegation regarding Canseco's wife, Rodriguez responded: "I don't know how to answer that."

Canseco also writes about the infamous June 1998 party at his house. Brian McNamee, Clemens' former trainer, has said Clemens spoke with Canseco at the barbecue and soon after approached the trainer about using performance-enhancing drugs. According to Lavin, Canseco wrote that Clemens did not attend.

Earlier this year, Canseco gave an affidavit to congressional investigators stating Clemens was not there and that he had never seen Clemens "use, possess or ask for steroids or human growth hormone."

Lavin wrote the Ordonez reference was "that old yarn of one player injecting another with steroids, possibly in the buttocks." Canseco and Ordonez were teammates on the 2001 Chicago White Sox.

The New York Times reported in January that Canseco offered to keep Ordonez "clear" in the book if the Detroit outfielder invested in a movie project promoted by Canseco, claims Lavin said Canseco wrote he denies.

Earlier this month, the New York Daily News reported the federal government was hoping to arrange a face-to-face meeting between Canseco and IRS special agent Jeff Novitzky, its lead steroids investigator, when his upcoming book tour stops in San Francisco.

Novitzky reportedly wants to talk to Canseco as part of the federal investigation into performance-enhancing drugs in sports. Canseco said in a sworn affidavit in January that he'd never seen Clemens "use, possess or ask for steroids or human growth hormone." The affidavit is part of the evidence gathered by the congressional committee looking at drugs in baseball.

Canseco, who will visit six cities while promoting his second steroids-related book "Vindicated," will be in San Francisco on April 9 and 10, where Novitzky is headquartered.

The release of the book, to be published by Simon Spotlight Entertainment, is to coincide with Canseco's scheduled appearance on ABC's "Nightline" on March 31 and the Howard Stern show on the day of the book's release.

It is the followup to Canseco's 2005 book "Juiced: Wild Times, Rampant 'Roids, Smash Hits and How Baseball Got Big." The book, which described his steroids use and implicated Mark McGwire, among others, rocked Major League Baseball.

Canseco initially was to collaborate with former Sports Illustrated associate editor Don Yaeger on "Vindicated" but Yaeger passed on the project, telling the Daily News in January that Canseco didn't have enough goods on Rodriguez.

"I had a chance to review the Jose Canseco [material] that he provided me. I don't think there's a book there," Yaeger told the newspaper. "I don't think he's got what he claims to have, certainly doesn't have what he claims to have on A-Rod."


Jessica Canseco

http://www.hogrockcafe.com/Jessica%20Canseco%20Playboy%20Nude%205.jpg

[Stormrider666]

Fuck Canseco. I remember seeing an interview he did before Juiced came out. He said that A-Rod and Jeter were the only two players he said that didn't do steriods. Now because he needs to sell another book, he has shit on Alex. Gimmie a fucking break. As for trying to fuck his wife, well after seeing JD's spoiler, can you blame a guy for trying.

[EvilMonkey71]

I'm thinking this will spur a libel lawsuit.....Canseco's an idiot.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Seriously. A-Rod was the best player back when the first book came out. If Canseco did have proof, there's no way he'd hold that info back for a sequel he had no idea would ever come to fruition.

[Steam]

I'm practically giddy over her. My Hughes jersey has shipped and its in Connecticut (fuck Connecticut) so I should have it soon. Will have to wear it during his first start of the season.

Can't fucking wait for this season to start.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

note to self...find Hughes jersey, jerk off repeatedly in it, using my feces as lubricant

[Steam]

note to self...find Hughes jersey, jerk off repeatedly in it, using my feces as lubricant

Hey!! I hope you don't mean MY Hughes jersey. It came today and it's spectacular. Finally almost baseball season. Let's go YANKEES!!!

[LilJimmyRbinson]

It's OPENING DAY! :clap::clap:

[Jimmy's Dignity]

looks like it's drizzling up in the Bronx

[25133WhooOoAH]

Please! no Rain Delay

[FullBallz]

I'm at the stadium now. This weather sucks! I'm hearing no earlier than 3 for a start time. Anyone else hear the same? Let me know. Thanks.

[ginaf20697]

Ahhhhhh memories of opening days past. It really doesn't help now that they are two weeks earlier than they used to be.

[Mindslayer]

3'oclock start time would be beautiful for me. I get out of work at 3:15.

[Perch1019]

I'm freezing my dick off right now.its not even raining. They keep playing rain related songs. I'm going insane!!!!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

boooooo rain out

[Perch1019]

Fuck the Yankees on this one. They could have started that game at 1pm and they would have been fine. It was a misty drizzle most of the time I was sitting out there.
My friend who works for them texted us exactly at 2 and said the game was cancelled and tomorow @ 7 now. We hauled ass out of there because we assumed they were about to announce it and wanted to get a head start. We walk to the lot, get in the car, put WFAN on and hear that the game was still on. We got to GWB and at 2:35 they finally announced it to the crowd. Thats pretty fucked up on their part making people sit there and spend more money for nothing.

[righty]

Great fucking Monday. I got rained out at work and was home by 12. I was like yes i can watch the Yankee game and it got rained out too. Shit!!!!!!!

[bill333]

It's supposed to rain tomorrow too. I didn't think it was that bad out. I'm sure they tried like hell to get the game in because you don't want to be making games up from the get go.

Weird that Sheppard won't be doing the mic. I guess 1st time in over 50 years?

[Stormrider666]

I thought it was supposed to be like 66 tomorrow. To be honest, this game should and could have been played this afternoon.

[Perch1019]

I thought it was supposed to be like 66 tomorrow. To be honest, this game should and could have been played this afternoon.

John Sterling said that they put the game at 705 because its supposed to rain in the afternoon.

[askewcore]

I thought it was supposed to be like 66 tomorrow. To be honest, this game should and could have been played this afternoon.

BY the time they stopped the game it wasnt even raining anymore. They just wanted us to sit there and buy $9.50 beers waiting for a game to start they knew they wouldnt play.

[Perch1019]

BY the time they stopped the game it wasnt even raining anymore. They just wanted us to sit there and buy $9.50 beers waiting for a game to start they knew they wouldnt play.

Total bullshit today. Even when it was raining, they could have played without any problem. They came on the PA around 1230ish and said they were tracking the storm and that they will play baseball after probably an hour delay. Then around 130, Michael Kay came on the TV with Paul Oneil and they yet again said it would be a short time til the game starts. ten to two, the fake Bob Shepard announces the weather reports have been changed and they are "exploring the possibilities" of the game. I got the text from my friend at exactly 2 saying the game will be tomorrow. From that point on, they waited 35 minutes to announce to the crowd. That was wrong. We tried telling people but noone believed us. We were pulling out of the lot and some guy pulled in and the fuckers charged him. I think it was fucked up that they kept telling everyone the game was going to happen and then pull that shit where they said the weather report was bad.
At no point was it raining where they should have not played baseball. I saw in my seat from noon on wearing a jacket and was fine. It was a drizzly mist for the most part. I came home and took a nap so I dont know what the weather was like but from what I saw, they could have played the game from 1-4. Im glad its tomorrow night because if it was a day game, I wouldnt be able to go and alot of people seemed to say the same things

[askewcore]

O'Neill coming on the screen was the only thing we had to cheer at all day. Him and the three Blue Jays who came out to try and get warmed up in the mist (they were on the other side of the field as me so I dont know who they were). As soon as Cashman came on the field I knew we were fucked, "exploring possibilities" sucks my dick.

And just so you guys know, if you are drinking the parking lot before the game, put your booze in a cup or you will get a $25 ticket apparently.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

For the first game against the Sox, they should get Eli Manning to throw out the first pitch. Who's with me?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

as long as he doesn't tag Posada in the ankles, I'm all for it :D

JPetrucci just posted what the Giants Super Bowl Ring (http://assets.giants.com/uploads/HOMEPAGE_STORY/080619BF131A45D6A9733CD38E224288.gif) looks like...thing is sweet :jump

[askewcore]

At least Eli could throw a spiral with a baseball.

Conditions for the game tonight look okay. Its still cloudy and dark, but it hasnt been raining for a while.

And whats up with the lack of stickiness for this thread?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

what channel is the game on tonight? MSG & YES are both showing <shudder> basketball

[Stormrider666]

It starts at 6:00 on YES. They will probably switch the Nets game to Channel 9. Oh x4 for wanting Eli to throw out the first pitch in the first game against the Red Sox.

[mik3]

http://www.trentonthunder.com/ftp/2008stockplayerpics/thunder%20outfielders.jpg

[mik3]

Also, I haven't been around 'cause I work too much.

AL East: Yankees
AL Central: Indians
AL West: Mariners
AL WC: Boston

NL East: Phillies
NL Central: Cubs
NL West: DBacks
NL WC: Rockies

[Jimmy's Dignity]

oh wow...this announcer really and truly is a Bob Sheppard ripoff
Jim Hall according to Michael Kay


ps> thanks for the headsup that it would be on YES, Storm

huh, Joba stuck with #62...how about that

starting batting order
Damon
Jeter
Abreu
Rodriguez
Giambi
Cano
Posada
Matsui
Cabrera

[mik3]

Joba's number has to add up to 8, so I expect him to keep 62.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

first pitch of the season...strike on the outside corner :D
w00t!! Nice DP to end the top of the 1st

Halliday is looking good...3 pitches for Damon, the last one he just stared at.

There ya go...A-Rod knocks in Abreu with a double. That'll be some crappy trivia answer later in life

[mik3]

It's funny that Halladay threw that same pitch that K'd Damon three more times and it was a ball every time. I love a consistent strike zone.

[ginaf20697]

I told my husband he has to get me a Joba Rules t-shirt when he goes to NY. It will be nice to wear around the Massholes.

[mik3]

Jeter actually does look better in the field so far, I'm amazed.

[mik3]

Melky in the 4th, wow.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

wow is right...couple of stellar catches right there. The 2nd one really shocked me screaming over into the Left-Center gap

[mik3]

If the Yankees don't come back this will be a very shitty loss. Wang's had like three balls hit hard off of him, and two were the plays by Melky.

[ginaf20697]

Ask and ye shall recieve :)

[mik3]

Here's what's going to happen this year; other than stolen bases, Melky will far out-perform Ellsbury.

[mik3]

I love Giambi, I feel he's going to be a force this year.

[25133WhooOoAH]

Wtf is the 2nd team in NY baseballs thread doing in sticky on not the yanks?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yeah, I was wondering about that...aren't there any Yanks fans who are mods?

I love my Giants & all, but we don't need to be a sticky anymore

Melky having a stellar game tonight...
Nice! Godzirra hit it to a hard spot

[mik3]

Nice, the Jays two runs were bullshit, now the Yankees get one.

[RobeSoup&Tears]

Joba working thru trouble with the meat of the line up looked good...for the first game too.

[mik3]

Love the kid, going to be an amazing pitcher for years, but that fist pump has gotta calm down. It's April first.

[Steam]

Love the kid, going to be an amazing pitcher for years, but that fist pump has gotta calm down. It's April first.

He's just animated. Once to get the season off on the right foot. I'm sure he will calm down as the season goes on.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Joba...he still rules.

nice triple there for Damon...gotta knock him in here. DAMNIT! Get the fucking ball out of the infield!

[mik3]

He's just animated. Once to get the season off on the right foot. I'm sure he will calm down as the season goes on.
True, I just associate the fist pump with classless douche bags like KRod/Papelbon/Beckett

[mik3]

More Yankee records, most consecutive home openers won.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Atta way...Girardi gets his first win, Wang gets the W, and Mo gets the save :D :D

[mik3]

Wtf is the 2nd team in NY baseballs thread doing in sticky on not the yanks?
Probably so the thread doesn't get lost when they're in third place and no one's posting.

[bill333]

Nice way to start off the season. :clap:

It'd be nice to go into the late innings like in the 90's and be lights out again.

[Perch1019]

Great game. Melky is the fucking man. Im not saying hes going to be a superstar but tonight he was awesome. I still dont believe he tracked and caught that first one at the 385. Once Joba got up in the bullpen, the LF bleachers went fucking crazy. He needs to get a song to come into.

9.50$ for a beer is still sinking in. Some drunk whore in our section spilled half of hers on the guy in front of her. I really thougth he was going to ask him to ring in out into her cup.

If you go to a game this year, do whatever you have to do take public transportation. Arrived at 6 and the lots were already full. Had to drive down the road that runs parallel to the Deegan to park. Over a mile away. Didnt pay but its a pain in the ass trying to find a spot. Its annoying as fuck to drive past the lots and see people with tents and shit taking up 2 or 3 spaces. Im all for tailgating but they need to crack down this season with only 1/3 of the lots open.

Mr. Steinbrenner doing the "countdown the home games" thing was a nice surprise but he looks terrible. Its almost like he went from 65 years old to 100 in a few months. I hope he holds on for another year. He deserves to see it.

Oh and when Jeter comes up, they switch from the guy doing the announcing to a recording of Sheppard "now batting, number 2, Derek Jeter. Number 2."

[Jimmy's Dignity]

$9.50 for a beer is still sinking in.:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

[askewcore]

Well, Miller Light was $8.50....

What Perch said about public transportation couldnt be more true. Parking is brutal this year, if you are driving in, show up for BP.

Gotta love the Melky, I think he's gonna have a really good season this year.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Melky catch
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6245/melkycatchru2.jpg

Melky swing
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7663/melkyjacklt7.jpg

Joba pump...get used to it
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/587/jobahc5.jpg

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Here's what's going to happen this year; other than stolen bases, Melky will far out-perform Ellsbury.

And Beltran.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Are there "Joba Rules" again this year or is he just on a total inning limit?

[Perch1019]

Are there "Joba Rules" again this year or is he just on a total inning limit?

Hank had some quote in the paper today about how he doesnt want him to be burned out like lots of other 21,22 or 23 year olds. Hes going to play his role but hes also going to be protected. He goes on to say something about him starting by years end. I think Joba to Mo should stick til it fails.


Also, some lunitic pulled some antics making traffic even more of a nightmare last night. Luckly we were parked on the other side but my brother said he herd the gunshots which at the time we laughed in his face about.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/04/02/2008-04-02_gunman_kills_himself_outside_yankee_stad.html
A gunman fleeing cops in a stolen Con Ed van put a bullet in his head to avoid capture when he got cornered in standstill traffic outside Yankee Stadium after Tuesday night's game, police said.

The unidentified man committed suicide as cops cautiously approached the van, and scores of Yankee fans sat frozen in their cars watching the chase come to a bloody end.

Cops drew their weapons as they neared the van on the Major Deegan Expressway at 161st St. but never fired a shot, a police source said.

The gunman fired his weapon once, the source said.

The drama began shortly before 10 p.m. when a young woman ran into a meat market at Courtlandt Ave. and E. 151st St. in Melrose, clutching a bleeding arm and screaming she had been shot.

She was later said to be in stable condition at Jacobi Medical Center.

Her shouts apparently spooked the shooter, who jumped into an empty Con Ed van idling at a nearby construction station and started to pull away.

The van's driver said he ran up to it only to have the gunman point a pistol muzzle at his nose and tell him to get lost.

The Con Ed driver then flagged down an NYPD radio car coming in his direction, but before the cops could do anything, the gunman rammed their car and sped away.

Two cops in the car, who suffered minor injuries, radioed what happened, police said.

A number of other cop cars then gave chase and followed the gunman onto the Deegan, where he got stuck in the postgame gridlock.

Police last night were trying to learn what caused the initial shooting.

[Stormrider666]

Great way to the start the season off last night. Kay did a great job with the opening monolauge before the game started. Gave me goosebumps and it finally sunk in, that this is the last season at Yankee Stadium.

[Perch1019]

I have tickets for Fri and Mondays game which I cant use cause ill be in Vegas. If anyone wants them, let me know and ill fwd them over.

[mik3]

Are there "Joba Rules" again this year or is he just on a total inning limit?
They were Torre rules more than Joba rules.

[Perch1019]

Ugh, that pitch was a meatball.

[Perch1019]

I know its game 2 but I just had to...
http://www.damninteresting.com/wp-content/abomb.jpg
From
http://miamisportsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/a-rod.jpg

[mik3]

Gotta say, I'm pretty inspired by Mussina's start. He hung a curve, oh well. He was sitting 87 with his two seamer, and he's always down in velocity in April. If he can sit 89-90 with a two seamer over the summer then he'll be fine.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

not gonna lie....if Moose is only at 89-90 on his fast ball come June...it's time to move his ass to the bullpen.

You're a starting pitcher...specifically, you're the 2nd starting pitcher for the New York Yankees...fix your shit or get into middle relief for $19 million or whatever completely nauseating salary we're paying you adds up to :yuck2:

:note...I didn't see the game, I have no idea how the play in the field went, etc etc etc

[Dopie Opie]

I am a Moose fan, but some things are so predictable with him.

He hits the corner on that Rios 2-2 count, but the ump blows the call. He then walks him, get annoyed and gives up a bomb to Wells.

The slightest thing throws him off, other than that I thought he threw a great game.

If he has control he can throw 89-90 with no problem, think Greg Maddux his last few years.

6-7 innings, 2-3 runs, keeps us in the game most of the time

[mik3]

not gonna lie....if Moose is only at 89-90 on his fast ball come June...it's time to move his ass to the bullpen.

You're a starting pitcher...specifically, you're the 2nd starting pitcher for the New York Yankees...fix your shit or get into middle relief for $19 million or whatever completely nauseating salary we're paying you adds up to :yuck2:

:note...I didn't see the game, I have no idea how the play in the field went, etc etc etc
Where you pitch in the rotation means nothing, he's pitching second but he's not the Yankees' #2 starter.

And yeah, if you watched you'd probably be ok with it.

About him throwing 89-90, two years ago when he was really good his four seamer was only about 91, so if he's throwing his two seamers around 89-90 then he's more than set.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

The only time ranking pitchers really matters is the first week of the season and the playoffs. In three weeks, it won't matter that Mussina pitched 2nd. Not ever series lines up. Mussina won't always be pitching against AJ Burnett. 5+ innings of 3 run ball is great for him at this point.

[TheTruth]

not gonna lie....if Moose is only at 89-90 on his fast ball come June...it's time to move his ass to the bullpen.

You're a starting pitcher...specifically, you're the 2nd starting pitcher for the New York Yankees...fix your shit or get into middle relief for $19 million or whatever completely nauseating salary we're paying you adds up to :yuck2:

:note...I didn't see the game, I have no idea how the play in the field went, etc etc etc

Greg Maddox never really threw much above 90 seems to have worked out pretty well for him. Moose will be fine as long as he mixes it up a little more.

Its all about the pitcher hitting his spots. Mariano goes through it every year where he blows a few saves because his pitches are slightly off of where he wants them.

[jimmyjimjimz]

Great game. Melky is the fucking man. Im not saying hes going to be a superstar but tonight he was awesome. I still dont believe he tracked and caught that first one at the 385. Once Joba got up in the bullpen, the LF bleachers went fucking crazy. He needs to get a song to come into.

9.50$ for a beer is still sinking in. Some drunk whore in our section spilled half of hers on the guy in front of her. I really thougth he was going to ask him to ring in out into her cup.

If you go to a game this year, do whatever you have to do take public transportation. Arrived at 6 and the lots were already full. Had to drive down the road that runs parallel to the Deegan to park. Over a mile away. Didnt pay but its a pain in the ass trying to find a spot. Its annoying as fuck to drive past the lots and see people with tents and shit taking up 2 or 3 spaces. Im all for tailgating but they need to crack down this season with only 1/3 of the lots open.

Mr. Steinbrenner doing the "countdown the home games" thing was a nice surprise but he looks terrible. Its almost like he went from 65 years old to 100 in a few months. I hope he holds on for another year. He deserves to see it.

Oh and when Jeter comes up, they switch from the guy doing the announcing to a recording of Sheppard "now batting, number 2, Derek Jeter. Number 2."


Which lots are open this year?

and what do you mean Mr. Steinbrenner doing the "countdown the home games" thing? Does he come out onto the field and say "ok there's this many home games left"? I always wanted to see him in person, but I never had the chance.

[Stormrider666]

I am a Moose fan, but some things are so predictable with him.

He hits the corner on that Rios 2-2 count, but the ump blows the call. He then walks him, get annoyed and gives up a bomb to Wells.

The slightest thing throws him off, other than that I thought he threw a great game.

If he has control he can throw 89-90 with no problem, think Greg Maddux his last few years.

6-7 innings, 2-3 runs, keeps us in the game most of the time

Pretty much. As soon as Moose didn't get that call, I turned the channel because I knew what was coming up next. Turn the channel back and sure enough, two-run homer given up to Wells. That's been my one complaint with Moose over the past couple of years.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Pretty much. As soon as Moose didn't get that call, I turned the channel because I knew what was coming up next. Turn the channel back and sure enough, two-run homer given up to Wells. That's been my one complaint with Moose over the past couple of years.

Ever since they went to Japan the smallest thing fucks him all up it seems.

[askewcore]

Everytime Moose gets squeezed on a call he falls apart. He has for a long time, and it leads to tighter strike zones for him IMO. If he got Maddux calls, he would have won 300 games already.

Hughes is pitching well today, lets hope the bats can put some backing together for him.

[Steam]

As good as Hughes has been, DMac has been just as good.

They really need to start getting some runs though.

[askewcore]

I just am happy to see him put a quality start together in his first game, we know pretty much what the lineup is gonna give us, but so much rides on Hughes and Kennedy for this team so I like encouraging signs.

[Steam]

I have a massive amount of confidence in Hughes. He seems to have a really good head on his shoulders and some good people there to help him out like Pettitte and Mussina.

It will be great cheering for this team in the future with the pitching.

[Steam]

Great at bat there for Abreu. If that Abreu shows up all year I will have no worries whatsoever.

[askewcore]

Well, A-Rod struck out with bases loaded, lets run him out of town again over reactive Yankee fans! HE SUCKS.

The previous statement was made entirely in jest,as I am now, and have always been an A-Rod supporter.

About fucking time we did something. Getting the lead off man on and wasting him was getting old.

[Steam]

Well, A-Rod struck out with bases loaded, lets run him out of town again over reactive Yankee fans! HE SUCKS.

The previous statement was made entirely in jest,as I am now, and have always been an A-Rod supporter.

About fucking time we did something. Getting the lead off man on and wasting him was getting old.

Come on, it was second and third by the time he fucking struck out AGAIN.

Fuck you ARod.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

damnit!! Jeter was safe

[EvilHomerJ666]

Nice to see Joba & Mo close the door. I've got high hopes for the season.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

2 wins...2 saves :D

I'm goin to the game on Saturday! No idea where the seats are, but I'm gonna be there :jump

[Steam]

2 wins...2 saves :D

I'm goin to the game on Saturday! No idea where the seats are, but I'm gonna be there :jump

haha, I could have had tickets to the game but I didn't want to go with a co-worker and his family.

[mik3]

The pen is so sick this year. It's probably the most underrated part of the team.

[Save My Up's Dick]

Mo looked good. He's off to a much better start than last year.

[askewcore]

I'm goin to the game on Saturday! No idea where the seats are, but I'm gonna be there :jump

As will I, sir. As will I. Hope to see ya there.

Mo looked good. He's off to a much better start than last year.

Yeah, Marco Scurtaro didnt take him deep again this year.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Mo looked good. He's off to a much better start than last year.

Last year he didn't have a save opportunity until late April. Not his fault.

[Stormrider666]

I just am happy to see him put a quality start together in his first game, we know pretty much what the lineup is gonna give us, but so much rides on Hughes and Kennedy for this team so I like encouraging signs.

Yeah i think it was important for Hughes to start out strong. This way you don't have people going, "See they should have gotten Santanna".

[mik3]

Last year he didn't have a save opportunity until late April. Not his fault.
He had opportunities, he just blew two saves that lost two games last April. That's why his ERA was about 8 going into May.

[Stormrider666]

I want to ask a question about something that has been discussed on Mike and Mad Dog for the past couple of days. As Yankees fans, do you guys have a problem with Joba's fist pump after he striked out Frank Thomas the other day. Me personally, I didn't have a problem with it and think Fat Boy and Froot Loop are making a big deal out of it.

[jimmyjimjimz]

I want to ask a question about something that has been discussed on Mike and Mad Dog for the past couple of days. As Yankees fans, do you guys have a problem with Joba's fist pump after he striked out Frank Thomas the other day. Me personally, I didn't have a problem with it and think Fat Boy and Froot Loop are making a big deal out of it.

Nah, I didn't have a problem. Why do people always make such a huge deal about shit like that?


Yeah i think it was important for Hughes to start out strong. This way you don't have people going, "See they should have gotten Santanna".

FUCK SANTANA

[BCH]

Stickied.

w00t w00t!

[Stormrider666]

Stickied.

w00t w00t!

Thank you sir.

[mik3]

I want to ask a question about something that has been discussed on Mike and Mad Dog for the past couple of days. As Yankees fans, do you guys have a problem with Joba's fist pump after he striked out Frank Thomas the other day. Me personally, I didn't have a problem with it and think Fat Boy and Froot Loop are making a big deal out of it.
It's because those idiots would rather not talk about the Yankee pitching, with they've both been killing all winter, pitching well.

Do yourself a favor and do anything during the day that isn't listening to those two morons.

[Stormrider666]

It's because those idiots would rather not talk about the Yankee pitching, with they've both been killing all winter, pitching well.

Do yourself a favor and do anything during the day that isn't listening to those two morons.

I usually have them on in the background on the TV. They are one of my in case of emergency programs whenever I hear things on Ron and Fez I don't want to listen too.

[mik3]

I used to listen to those idiots when I first got out of high school, I couldn't take it. Fatcessa is the WORST kind of Yankee fan and Russo is your regular ole Yankee hater.

For shits and giggles I listened to their show a lot after Torre was shown the door, best radio ever.

[Stormrider666]

I used to listen to those idiots when I first got out of high school, I couldn't take it. Fatcessa is the WORST kind of Yankee fan and Russo is your regular ole Yankee hater.

For shits and giggles I listened to their show a lot after Torre was shown the door, best radio ever.

I think this year with his Giants sucking, his Yankee hate is going to be at an all time high.

[Save My Up's Dick]

I used to listen to those idiots when I first got out of high school, I couldn't take it. Fatcessa is the WORST kind of Yankee fan and Russo is your regular ole Yankee hater.

For shits and giggles I listened to their show a lot after Torre was shown the door, best radio ever.

I think this year with his Giants sucking, his Yankee hate is going to be at an all time high.
I don't listen to them like I used to years ago but I still listen now and again. Russo is a non-fan. He roots for nobody,(he even bashes his one and only team he roots for) he's a hater of all teams, especially NY teams and the Yankees are top of the list. I'm so happy when his SF Giants lose, fuck him. I'm waiting for the day when Fatso gets sick of his shit and smashes him in his face. Never happen.... but I can dream.

[Stormrider666]

I don't listen to them like I used to years ago but I still listen now and again. Russo is a non-fan. He roots for nobody,(he even bashes his one and only team he roots for) he's a hater of all teams, especially NY teams and the Yankees are top of the list. I'm so happy when his SF Giants lose, fuck him. I'm waiting for the day when Fatso gets sick of his shit and smashes him in his face. Never happen.... but I can dream.

Funniest thing I thought one of them was going to walk out of the studio, one day last week. They were having an argument about building new stadiums. Basically Russo was showing his Yankee bias and basically saying that the Yankees didn't really need a new stadium. It when for like a good hour.

[25133WhooOoAH]

I love Mike and the Maddog

So when do you think were gonna have a game were its easy for us? Prob not for awhile....6-0 in the 3rd...WOOT! This is the same Yankees as last year.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

well lets hope we got that out of our system...

[mik3]

IPK got squeezed BAD last night, but he also didn't adjust. It was just funny watching Sonnanstine, who's got just about as little experience as Kennedy, getting the same calls.

Also, Johnny Gomes owns. He just hit a ball the other way off the top of the wall. He stopped watching it, thought it was a HR, got tagged out between first and second.

[FullBallz]

I thought i was going to be done with Mussina after this year....then Kennedy goes and makes the team. Last night was rough but hey it's the 4th game of the year. If the last 3 years have taught me anything it's never get too crazy about the first part of the season. Hell even the first half. With that said, they should be hitting better.

I don't know if it's me but it's like the umpiring has been really shoddy so far. On both ends of the stick.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I'm with you on the "they should be hitting better." At least today was a beautiful day...

[CM Mark]

I'm with you on the "they should be hitting better." At least today was a beautiful day...

http://www.marsneedsguitars.com/blog_pics/U2.jpg

:martianvirus:

[Jimmy's Dignity]

no, there weren't any murdered Irish there in attendance...

[Stormrider666]

I know he is not the only guilty party, but someone needs to tell Cano when the bases are loaded, just imagine they are only two runners on.

[ginaf20697]

Just ordered my Extra Innings package. I guess $160 is still cheaper than actually going to a game though. :icon_surp

[Steam]

Just ordered my Extra Innings package. I guess $160 is still cheaper than actually going to a game though. :icon_surp

I need to get on that today.

What the fuck was Betemit thinking there?

Edit: Just ordered it. Wish Comcast would have HD though. Fucking cockbags.

[mik3]

Last year it was the slider, this year it's the change, before things are said and done Wang is going to be a complete pitcher.

[Steam]

Wang has looked very sharp today. Makes me feel better about keeping him over Jered Weaver in my fantasy league.

[mik3]

He's broken a lot of bats this year too, I like that.

[Steam]

Wicked nice play by Cano there, and a good inning for Joba.

[mik3]

You know what rules? Having a manager that understands there's more to relief pitchers than what inning they're supposedly slotted into. That most games are won in the 6th-7th-8th, not the 9th.

[Steam]

You know what rules? Having a manager that understands there's more to relief pitchers than what inning they're supposedly slotted into. That most games are won in the 6th-7th-8th, not the 9th.

x2

[askewcore]

You know what rules? Having a manager that understands there's more to relief pitchers than what inning they're supposedly slotted into. That most games are won in the 6th-7th-8th, not the 9th.

qft.

Wang looked excellent today. I loved seeing him be effective with four pitches.

We have a team that can win close games again this year, and its nice. That whole score 14 runs in one game then score 1 over the next four games grew really tiresome last season.

[mik3]

Yeah, the Yankees started something like 6-30 in two run games last year. They're...3-0?

[PartyRock24]

I was at the game yesterday, it was a really good game. Jabo pitched really well got one over 100mph. Chin pitched really well also. Damon looked a little shaky though. A-Rod almost had a home run if it wasnt so windy it would have gone out, same with Jeter. Matsui had a really nice shot. It was a solid game. The thing that caught my attention was Damon, he didnt look that great. But its still early in the year.
It was nice to see them win a close game because in years past they had lost those types of games.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

After tonight they play 18 of the next 20 on the road with zero travel days. What the fuck MLB.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Some pictures of the new stadium:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2303/2394763670_04c9e64c31_b.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2393923129_3c25ac6bbb_b.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2394729794_c251bd9fcc_b.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3001/2393860653_221ba6f852_b.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/2394701558_1bf72437fb_b.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2119/2393943939_11754bf4b1_b.jpg?v=0

[Perch1019]

I go to Vegas for the weekend and im staying at the Palms. We get a cabana for the day at the pool on Friday. In the one next to us, we notice this one guy has these giant rings on his 2 of his fingers. After trying to figure it out for a half hour, we end up talking to them and he turns out to be some guy who works in the Tampa offices and has for the last couple of years. The rings are the 1996 and 1999 championship rings. Me now being totally smashed and in awe of these things asks if I can try them on. The 96 one is great cause its the first but the 99 is totally encrusted with 25 diamonds. My only regret is that I was wearing the Plax jersey as I lost a bet to my friend whos bachelor party it was and had get the pix taken in that.

http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v193/242/78/14309105/n14309105_33581150_6430.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v193/242/78/14309105/n14309105_33581154_7782.jpg

[bill333]

Sweet, Perch. Did you ask how much they were worth?

looks like you flashing a gang sign...yo, yo, yo

[Steam]

Hell of an economical inning for Moose. Gives you hope for the rest of the game and hopefully for the season.

[bill333]

Abreu :clap:

[Steam]

Bobby and I have a love/hate relationship but right now, he's on my good side.

[bill333]

I missed what happened to Jeter, did he tweek a hammy?


I hate Gomes. That fucker always hits big against us

[Perch1019]

Sweet, Perch. Did you ask how much they were worth?



No clue but with all those diamonds I would assume they had to be like 10 to 20 bucks.


Shit, when was the last time we had a back up catcher that hit a double?

[Steam]

No clue but with all those diamonds I would assume they had to be like 10 to 20 bucks.


Shit, when was the last time we had a back up catcher that hit a double?

Didn't Nieves have that one game last year where he had one? Well, he had like two hits or something which is a feat in itself. I don't think he had two hits before that point in the season.

Wil Nieves sucks.

[bill333]

No clue but with all those diamonds I would assume they had to be like 10 to 20 bucks.


Perhaps a few more...liba dib


Oh yeah, fuck Hinske

[mik3]

See, like I said last week, the sky is not falling with Mike Mussina.

Also, I hate these faggots that are chanting Paul O'Neill to Hawkins.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I'll admit...I laughed when they chanted Paul O'Neill at him. But if it goes on all season, that's gonna be crazy gay. Who gets pissed first? Hawkins for them not believing in him or Paulie for them calling him a ******?

[mik3]

It's O'Neill's fault for being so spineless about it when Kay asked him about the number.

Dude doesn't deserve to get his number retired, it's a popular number, but I sorta think if it was Ensberg wearing it still it wouldn't be as big a deal.

[Dopie Opie]

O'neill gets his number retired after we retire Pinella's 14..... WTF you can't retire every damn number.

[mik3]

What's funny to me is,

Paul O'Neill: Wore #21 because of Clemente
LaTroy Hawkins: Wearing #21 because of Clemente

BOOOOOOO HAWKINS

[Perch1019]

What's funny to me is,

Paul O'Neill: Wore #21 because of Clemente
LaTroy Hawkins: Wearing #21 because of Clemente

BOOOOOOO HAWKINS

Why is this such a hard concept to grasp? Hes LaTroy fucking Hawkins. He stinks and hes going to blow games for us soon enough. Paul O'neil was one of the backbones of 4 championships.
I personally dont care and dont think his number should be retired but I can see where some people would go on about it. I didnt even realize until I heard the following day that it was Paul Oneils number. I just assumed somewhere over the last 6 years wore it.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

I loved Paulie, but he shouldn't have his number retired. Having said that, LaTroy "Run Fairy 2" Hawkins shoulda known better.

On a related note, I want Joba to become a starter, but I really really hate the idea of Farnsworth -> Hawkins -> Mo as a way to close games out.

[Stormrider666]

Why is this such a hard concept to grasp? Hes LaTroy fucking Hawkins. He stinks and hes going to blow games for us soon enough. Paul O'neil was one of the backbones of 4 championships.
I personally dont care and dont think his number should be retired but I can see where some people would go on about it. I didnt even realize until I heard the following day that it was Paul Oneils number. I just assumed somewhere over the last 6 years wore it.

I going to have to agree. Hawkins already has enough stress on his shoulders as it is. I have only seen him in two games this year and that's enough to make me cringe and see bad things happening in the future. Most intelligent Yankees fans know what Latroy is about. Even if he wasn't wearing 21, he would still be getting booed. For his sanity, I think its in his best interest to change his number.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Any word on Jeter?

[Stormrider666]

Any word on Jeter?

Strained groin. Will not be playing this afternoon. Maybe out for a week.

[mik3]

Hawkins is a good reliever, he's a better reliever than Vizcano was and he's more consistent than Farnsworth.

Though, when Joba leaves the bullpen I think Hawkins will still be the 7th inning guy and one out of Bruney/Ohlendorf/Sanchez/Whelan/Horne will be working the 8th.

[askewcore]

Hawkins is a good reliever, he's a better reliever than Vizcano was and he's more consistent than Farnsworth.

Thats what I told all my friends too, so far Ol' Blackey aint making me look too good.

This umpire is squeezing the shit out of both pitchers, Hughes cannot find the zone, and he needs to be more attentive to runners, especially when they have speed like Gathright, that fucker has 3 SBs on Phil already.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Well, that sucked.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I heard on WFAN that Jorge is going to have an MRI, because of a "dead shoulder"

[askewcore]

I heard on WFAN that Jorge is going to have an MRI, because of a "dead shoulder"

I think that's why KC was running so much yesterday, even though he made a couple good throws, and probably had Gathright the first time but Betemit dropped the ball. Either way, Jorge having a bad shoulder, not good.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Jeter day to day and our catcher has a dead arm. Great first week. I really would love for the Yankees to not stumble out of the gate for a change. Watching them make it so hard on themselves year after year gets annoying real quick.

On the bright side, it looks like we finally have a backup catcher that will hit above .150 - I think I saw him acutally get a double the other night. Did Wil Nieves ever do that?

[25133WhooOoAH]

Yup This looks like the same Team as Last Year. Arod Striking out gave me Douche Filled Chills everytime...ugh

[askewcore]

Results of Posada's MRI, no structural damage but he will rest for a few days.

And our starting pitcher tonight is...

Brian Bruney?

Kennedy.......kennedy was scratched right before game time with no explanation yet.

[askewcore]

Joe Girardi: Catcher, Broadcaster, Manager....meteorologist?

They held out Kennedy.....Kennedy in anticipation of rain, so if the game starts up after the delay that looks inevitable, he will pitch.

[Perch1019]

I didnt pick up on it right away but now the 'Kennedy.... Kennedy' thing has me laughing really hard.:clap::clap::clap:

[Stormrider666]

With the Yanks/Red Sox set to start in about 10 minutes(hopefully), I have a question for you fellow Yankees fans and Red Sox fans if you're reading too.

I know after the 2003 season, they started having the teams begin their series in April. Do you thinks its better to push the start of the series till later. Maybe start it on Memorial Day weekend.

[ginaf20697]

Later is always better. I always have a hard time giving a fuck about baseball in April, especially if the Rangers are in the playoffs.

[bill333]

Just for the fact that it can still be real cold out, that they should have waited a bit.


Anybody see the papers about the idiot Red Sox fan burying the shirt in the cement? If I were George, I'd make him pay for taking up the concrete. Not that I'm superstitious but just to get even for trying to be a dick.

Guess the Red Sox fans will try anything to erase the memory of that embarrassing span of winless WS titles ( It wasn't a curse, you just sucked). :haha7:

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Faggot Crisp has to bunt to get on base.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Big win for the Yankees! Wang was literally 1 inch away from a no hitter. :clap::clap:

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Just a question here...when was the last time a Yankee had a complete game? Did anyone have a CG last year w/ Torre managing? "whaa"

[askewcore]

CM Wang threw the one and only CG for the Yankee pitching staff last season. Great game last night, lets hope they follow up strong.

[mik3]

I enjoy watching highlights of the game. They still act as though Ortiz is feared.

He wasn't scary last year, and he sure as hell isn't so far this year.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Just a question here...when was the last time a Yankee had a complete game? Did anyone have a CG last year w/ Torre managing? "whaa"

I love Girardi for this. If Torre was still here Hawkins would have been out for the 9th, which would have led to Joba and/or Mo having to work for no good reason.

[mik3]

The 9th? Wang would have been out after the Drew HR.

[mik3]

http://nomaas.org/images/Wang_KungFu.jpg

[Steam]

Since we have been engaged in a message board orgy with Girardi and the current team I might as well whip it out some more and praise them for their baserunning. Loved how they manufactured two runs there.

[askewcore]

That really was lovely. Excellent baserunning by the kid there. Girardi is the man, he gives us a chance to win games even when the lineup is struggling by actually managing the game as opposed to just his players egos.

[Stormrider666]

Yeah I know its early, but I will join in the orgy was well. I'm not trying to insult Gator, but I already like what I have seen from Eilend's work with the pitching staff.

[Steam]

On the other hand, their handling of Manny........................

[Perch1019]

Why wouldnt you walk Manny there and load the bases for Youk? Manny always kills us and on top of that hit a ball to Vermont the last time he was up

[Stormrider666]

On the other hand, their handling of Manny........................

Yeah I know. Still not so good.

[Steam]

Why wouldnt you walk Manny there and load the bases for Youk? Manny always kills us and on top of that hit a ball to Vermont the last time he was up

Just ponderous.

Girardi should have told Moose to just walk him.

Now we get to see skinny fat man Bruney.

[mik3]

This was a convenient rain delay here, and now a built-in excuse if anusmouth gives it up.

[Perch1019]

Whats the rule on the rain out here? Does it not end because it was the middle of an inning or does it revert back to the last completed one? I cant remember if the replays only happen if the game is tied or not.

EDIT: Tarps coming off, guess it dont matter. COME ON AROD!

[mik3]

Can't end in the middle of an inning, like the Yankees in that Baltimore game last year where they took the lead but the game was delayed right afterward.

[Perch1019]

How the fuck are you going to change the game in the middle of a 3-2 count with 2 outs in the 9th inning? Fuck that Redneck Activity.

[Steam]

Come on Phil, strike this fucko out.

[25133WhooOoAH]

Phile Hughes is Garbage

2 shit starts in a row.

[Steam]

Phile Hughes is Garbage

2 shit starts in a row.

He's also only 21. Give him time. I know that it is foreign for some Yankee fans to do that. He will develop into a quality pitcher.

[mikewow]

damon up. runners on 1st and 2nd. yanks down by two... WHY wouldnt joe bunt damon and have the tying run on 2nd with one out for cano and abreu? thats two questionable moves back to back.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Oh well. Looks like another season of a horrible April record. Whatever.

Best wishes to Joba and his dad. Good luck Mr. Chamberlain.

[mik3]

If Harland dies I'm going to go out on a limb here and say stick a fork in Joba for a while.

[Stormrider666]

Oh well. Looks like another season of a horrible April record. Whatever.

Best wishes to Joba and his dad. Good luck Mr. Chamberlain.

Yeah I hope Joba's dad pulls through. Good luck Mr. Chamberlain.

[Perch1019]

My buddy who works in construction informed me that the company doing the Yankee Stadium masonry job, is pressing charges against the ass hole who put the jersey in the cement. I dont exactly know what the charge is but it had something to do with Turner telling the cement company that they will no longer use them for any job if actions wernt brought against the guy. I dont know how true all this is but I hope the dick ends up having to pay for all the labor, time and materials involved in doing this.

[askewcore]

The Daily News said ti was something about defacing property or something and that they were gonna try and seek $30,000 from this guy for the cost of jackhammering up the jersey. What a shit heel.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Good for him. I he has to pay the $30,000 from his $40,000 salary.

[bill333]

OK, I'll whore quote myself.


Anybody see the papers about the idiot Red Sox fan burying the shirt in the cement? If I were George, I'd make him pay for taking up the concrete. Not that I'm superstitious but just to get even for trying to be a dick.

[Perch1019]

OK, I'll whore quote myself.

Duh, use the search. :action-sm
http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=88978

[mik3]

http://nomaas.org/images/pedroia_midget.jpg

And, has anyone found out if this guy was a concrete laborer or a mason? If he was a mason then he should have the money to get a decent lawyer, if he's a laborer, probably not.

[bill333]

Duh, use the search. :action-sm
http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=88978


I don't know what you mean there Perch but I was just getting at the point that when this first came out, I was saying that he should be made to pay for the cost of digging the shirt back up - considering how much is being spent on the stadium. If he thought it was worthy of being in the news and there was supposed to be some kind of curse, then fuck him, pay for it to be removed big mouth. He should have waited for the stadium to be done and taken a photo for proof. Dumbass Boston fan. If the sides were reversed, the Boston fans would say "typical NY fan".

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Looks like LaTroy Hawkins is giving up #21.

[mik3]

Looks like LaTroy Hawkins is giving up #21.
Yeah, which really sucks. Mainly because a bunch of idiots, mostly the "bleacher creatures" will feel they "won" here.

[TheTruth]

Looks like LaTroy Hawkins is giving up #21.

Whats the story? Because it was O'neal's number?

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Whats the story? Because it was O'neal's number?

Yup, Paul O'Neill was the last to wear #21 and people have been waiting (hoping?) that it gets retired. Paulie was great and I loved watching him play, but I don't think he warrants a retired number. The only numbers that should be retired from the resurgence in the 90s is Jeter and Torre.

[TheTruth]

Yup, Paul O'Neill was the last to wear #21 and people have been waiting (hoping?) that it gets retired. Paulie was great and I loved watching him play, but I don't think he warrants a retired number. The only numbers that should be retired from the resurgence in the 90s is Jeter and Torre.

I would say Rivera, Pettitte, and Bernie Williams should be mentioned in that same resurgence of the 90s Yankees.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

I would say Rivera, Pettitte, and Bernie Williams should be mentioned in that same resurgence of the 90s Yankees.

Oh shit, how could I have forgotten Rivera? My bad. Bernie is on the cusp. I just hope Bernie and the Yankees don't hate eachother forever after how his "retirement" went down.

[Stormrider666]

90s' Yankees numbers that should be retired:
Jeter
Rivera
Torre
Pettite

You can make an argument for both Williams and O'Neil.

Like I said, for his sanity, I think it was in Hawkin's best interest to change the number.

Pinella's number should have been retired in the years he was in broadcasting.

[Perch1019]

No way Oneil. He was great and all but I dont think he gets his number retired. Pettite as well.
Bernie should get it for being a career Yankee.

When its all said and done, #13 is going to be there as well. :puke:

[ginaf20697]

Jesus if they start retiring everyone's who is above average's number they're going to have to start issuing in the triple digits soon. They've already have WAY too many numbers retired that shouldn't be.

[Perch1019]

Jesus if they start retiring everyone's who is above average's number they're going to have to start issuing in the triple digits soon. They've already have WAY too many numbers retired that shouldn't be.

I agree but Jeter, Mo and Torre are no question. If Arod breaks 800 or Bonds for that matter, hes a lock too.
Bernie shouldnt get a number but I think there should be a Bernie Williams day for him to be recognized by the organization.

BACK TO BACK AND A BELLY TO BELLY! That was a shot by Arod

[25133WhooOoAH]

lol

What a fucking game tonight.....Makes me sick just being a fan of baseball..That I had to sit through that. Yankees Pitching this year is on and off...Who the fuck knows how the end result will come....

[Steam]

Just one of those nights were nothing worked for the pitchers.

I still have a large amount of faith in them all.

[Stormrider666]

Just one of those nights were nothing worked for the pitchers.

I still have a large amount of faith in them all.

Same here. I think the weather getting warmer will play a big part in the pitchers getting better. In their first couple of starts I think Hughes and Kennedy spent more time blowing on their hands, instead of concentrating on the hitters.

Oh and a note to YES. Can we not start showing graphics illustrating A-Rod's career home run totals and who he is passing, until he reaches at least over the 600 range.

[mik3]

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o262/bsadecki/pedroia.gif

[Perch1019]

"He throws 100 mph. That's career-ending if it hits him,"

and with that 100 mph pitch, I would have forgiven every horrible moment Kyle Farnsworth has created since putting on a Yankee uniform.

[TheTruth]

Gimmie a break how many times do Red Sox pitchers throw inside and high to Jeter and A-Rod

[Stormrider666]

Gimmie a break how many times do Red Sox pitchers throw inside and high to Jeter and A-Rod

Yeah somebody needs to tell Pedroia, to look at video of Pedro with the Red Sox and see how many times he has not only hit Yankee hitters, but other teams as well.

[TheTruth]

Yeah somebody needs to tell Pedroia, to look at video of Pedro with the Red Sox and see how many times he has not only hit Yankee hitters, but other teams as well.

Not to mention Manny deserves a pitch actually thrown at his head after he over reacted back in 2003 when Clemens threw a high pitch that was no where near his head, which lead to the Don Zimmer/Pedro fiasco

[bill333]

I was going to start a thread asking this question but fuck it, I'll just ask it here, since most post here anyway - and the children can keep to their posting on Yankee hater threads.

What is your position on "head hunting" or hitting the guy who homered off the pitcher or even the guy after the hitter who jacked one? I'm not talking retaliation for their own player being thrown at or even posers at the plate, just flat out throwing at someone. This has nothing to do with any specific team or pitcher, just pitchers at any level, in general.


Personally, I think it's bullshit that a pitcher can't handle being homered off of - get out of baseball then. What is the batter supposed to do, strike out for you? So what, he hit a couple homers or hamered you. If I did nothing to insult the pitcher, I'd be going after him with my bat. You use a an object which could kill or seriously injure me, I'd use the same tactic.

[ginaf20697]

There's a big difference between head hunting and simply being brushed back. Unfortunately most major leaguers don't have the brains to differentiate.

[bill333]

That's what I was asking though. I'm not talking about brushing someone back. The viewer and the players know when someone was being thrown at, because the pitcher couldn't handle being rocked or plunking the poor bastard who has to follow that hitter.

I'll even add in another question about body armour on elbows giving the batter the ability to lean over the plate, without worrying about getting hit or taking one off the elbow.

OK Go.

[Stormrider666]

Head hunting is wrong.

Brushing back is right.

Pitching inside is right.

Retaliation for what you feel is someone hitting one of your guys, I don't have a problem with.

If you stand up there and admire a home run, you should expect to get drilled inbetween the numbers.

There is nothing you can really do about the body armour, its part of the game.

[Stormrider666]

Pettite comes through again after a loss. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but Pettite's Yankee career record following a loss is insane. Its also a good argument for retiring his number, when its all said and done.

[askewcore]

You could make a really strong argument for Petitte to get his number retired, if he wins another WS I think he gets it no question.

A-Rod left the game today with a strained quad. Not good.

[Steam]

You could make a really strong argument for Petitte to get his number retired, if he wins another WS I think he gets it no question.


If he didn't leave to go to Houston there would be no question but since he did I would have to say that he has to be instrumental in them winning again. The whole HGH thing doesn't help either.

Thinking about the idea of him not leaving after 2003 makes me wonder how thinks would have turned out if he stuck around. What pitcher don't they trade for, Vazquez or Brown? If they don't trade for Brown what do they do with Weaver. Could Brazoben have helped out the pen at all or what he have either not made the club or just been worn out Quantrill, Gordon, Mariano style? If they don't trade for Vazquez how would Nick Johnson have fared with the Yankees? How long before Yankee fans sickened of his constant injuries? If Pettitte is there (even in the injured state he was that season) do the Yankees have enough to get through Boston? If they do would it have spared us from having to see Randy Johnson in pinstripes?

Just thinking about all of that makes me wish even more that he never left.

[Stormrider666]

If he didn't leave to go to Houston there would be no question but since he did I would have to say that he has to be instrumental in them winning again. The whole HGH thing doesn't help either.

Thinking about the idea of him not leaving after 2003 makes me wonder how thinks would have turned out if he stuck around. What pitcher don't they trade for, Vazquez or Brown? If they don't trade for Brown what do they do with Weaver. Could Brazoben have helped out the pen at all or what he have either not made the club or just been worn out Quantrill, Gordon, Mariano style? If they don't trade for Vazquez how would Nick Johnson have fared with the Yankees? How long before Yankee fans sickened of his constant injuries? If Pettitte is there (even in the injured state he was that season) do the Yankees have enough to get through Boston? If they do would it have spared us from having to see Randy Johnson in pinstripes?

Just thinking about all of that makes me wish even more that he never left.

I still remember that day. Walking into work and looking up at the TV screen and seeing Pettite putting on the Astros' jersey during his press conference. I think if he hadn't left, Clemens probably would have stayed retired. I don't think they would have traded for Brown. I think Nick Johnson's batting average and decent first base play, would have made most Yankees fans overlook his constant injuries. Finally, I think on sole guts alone, Pettite would have been enough to get through Boston.

[askewcore]

He also wouldnt have got injured that season because he hurt himself swinging the bat.

[Steam]

I still remember that day. Walking into work and looking up at the TV screen and seeing Pettite putting on the Astros' jersey during his press conference. I think if he hadn't left, Clemens probably would have stayed retired. I don't think they would have traded for Brown. I think Nick Johnson's batting average and decent first base play, would have made most Yankees fans overlook his constant injuries. Finally, I think on sole guts alone, Pettite would have been enough to get through Boston.

Pettitte leaving pretty much started the era of the Yankees where they just accumulated guys that I fucking hated. The Sheffields, the Loftons, the Browns, the Womacks, the Johnsons. If he stuck around I think that it would have been huge. I also think that it would have helped Vazquez and with Vazquez coming up big they don't go for Johnson and they don't sign Pavano.

I still feel bad for Weaver. So many just blamed him for the homerun by Gonzalez when he hadn't pitched in over a week or so and had been completely ruined by Torre.

I hate looking back at it.

He also wouldnt have got injured that season because he hurt himself swinging the bat.


Yeah, you are correct, but I think he was due for something like that regardless. Granted, being with the Yankees it wouldn't have happened in that manner.

[PartyRock24]

Steinbrenner outspoken about Chamberlain's future place with Yankees


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Updated: April 21, 2008, 8:03 AM ET

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Yankees co-chairman Hank Steinbrenner, like his father George, has never been one to mince words. When it comes to where pitcher Joba Chamberlain should be -- the bullpen or the starting rotation -- the younger Steinbrenner's expectations are crystal clear.

I want him as a starter and so does everyone else, including him, and that is what we are working toward and we need him there now. There is no question about it, you don't have a guy with a 100-mile-per-hour fastball and keep him as a setup guy. You just don't do that. You have to be an idiot to do that.

-- Hank Steinbrenner on
Joba Chamberlain

"I want him as a starter and so does everyone else, including him, and that is what we are working toward and we need him there now," Steinbrenner told the New York Times. "There is no question about it, you don't have a guy with a 100-mile-per-hour fastball and keep him as a setup guy. You just don't do that. You have to be an idiot to do that."

Through Sunday's games, the Yankees stand at 10-10 and are closer to the bottom of the AL East than the top. New York is three games behind division-leading Boston and just 1½ games ahead of cellar dweller Tampa Bay.

Steinbrenner also took issue with how the Yankees handled Chamberlain's situation last season, before he was in a position to make changes.

"The mistake was already made last year switching him to the bullpen out of panic or whatever," Steinbrenner told the newspaper. "I had no say in it last year and I wouldn't have allowed it. That was done last year, so now we have to catch up. It has to be done on a schedule so we don't rush him."

Chamberlain, who had missed five games to be with his sick father in Nebraska, returned to the Yankees on Saturday. He pitched a scoreless eighth inning in the Yankees' 6-0 loss to the Orioles. Chamberlain said his father was doing much better.

Steinbrenner didn't seem worried about the rough early going for young starters Phil Hughes (16 earned runs in 16 1/3 innings) and Ian Kennedy (15 earned runs in 14 innings).

"I think once Hughes and Kennedy get plenty of starts and get Joba back, and with [Chien-Ming] Wang and [Andy] Pettitte, we will be fine," Steinbrenner told The Times.

The one name missing from that list is current starter Mike Mussina. Steinbrenner also had a suggestion for the starting pitcher who owns 251 victories in an 18-year career.

"[Mussina] just needs to learn how to pitch like [45-year-old Phillies pitcher] Jamie Moyer," Steinbrenner told the newspaper. Moyer is known as a crafty pitcher who doesn't have an overpowering fastball.

"The starting rotation is not what I would have chosen at the beginning of the year, but that is not a big news flash to anyone," Steinbrenner added.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

I hate how the media needs to put in every story something along these lines:

Through Sunday's games, the Yankees stand at 10-10 and are closer to the bottom of the AL East than the top. New York is three games behind division-leading Boston and just 1½ games ahead of cellar dweller Tampa Bay.

Being 10-10 is a non-issue for 29 teams, but not the Yankees. Fuck the media.

[N.Y. Johnny]

I hate how the media needs to put in every story something along these lines:



Being 10-10 is a non-issue for 29 teams, but not the Yankees. Fuck the media.



It is ESPN.com of course. They really make it very difficult to follow baseball anymore. They really make it no secret who they're for.

[TheTruth]

Head hunting is wrong.

Brushing back is right.

Pitching inside is right.

Retaliation for what you feel is someone hitting one of your guys, I don't have a problem with.

If you stand up there and admire a home run, you should expect to get drilled inbetween the numbers.

There is nothing you can really do about the body armour, its part of the game.

Head hunting is wrong, but the pitch to Manny lookes as if it hit him, it would have hit right where the Red Sox hit A-Rod the night before in the middle of the back. The Farnsworth pitched looked like it didn't get up to Manny's head hight untill it was well past him.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

It is ESPN.com of course. They really make it very difficult to follow baseball anymore. They really make it no secret who they're for.

ESPN = NESN2. They even use the green monster in all their commercials for games they're broadcasting.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

I wish Hank would shut up. Everyone knows that Chamberlain is going to wind up in the rotation, but you can't rush him and wreck his arm. There was an article in the Star-Ledger Sunday about increased innings for young pitchers and what it's done to their arms. There was a list of young pitchers who had their innings increase by over 30 from one year to the next and how it affected them. They were all guys who were very good pitchers one year and either bad after that or injured (Kerry Wood, Wade Miller, Jose Lima, Ben Sheets, Joe Mays, and AJ Burnett were all on the list). Then there's Francisco Liriano who missed the entire season last year (or most of the year, I forget) with an arm injury. If keeping Joba in the bullpen for another month or 2 is what they have to do to keep him from becoming just another young star who has a dead arm before he's 30, then that's what they should do.

Steinbrenner outspoken about Chamberlain's future place with Yankees

[Stormrider666]

I wish Hank would shut up. Everyone knows that Chamberlain is going to wind up in the rotation, but you can't rush him and wreck his arm. There was an article in the Star-Ledger Sunday about increased innings for young pitchers and what it's done to their arms. There was a list of young pitchers who had their innings increase by over 30 from one year to the next and how it affected them. They were all guys who were very good pitchers one year and either bad after that or injured (Kerry Wood, Wade Miller, Jose Lima, Ben Sheets, Joe Mays, and AJ Burnett were all on the list). Then there's Francisco Liriano who missed the entire season last year (or most of the year, I forget) with an arm injury. If keeping Joba in the bullpen for another month or 2 is what they have to do to keep him from becoming just another young star who has a dead arm before he's 30, then that's what they should do.

Here is hoping that Cashman and the baseball people can explain to Hal the disadvantages of trying to rush Joba into the starting rotation. I mean I knew sooner or later, Hank was going to start yapping about the slow start of the pitchers. To be perfectly honest, I think he just yaps to hear himself speak.

[bill333]

To be perfectly honest, I think he just yaps to hear himself speak.

Well, he is a Steinbrenner. :icon_mrgr

[Stormrider666]

Well, he is a Steinbrenner. :icon_mrgr

I think he is making a mistake. For some reason, he thinks he has to jump right in and start imitating his old man. How about he just sit back and take everything in, get caught up to speed, and then shoot his mouth off at the right times.

[mik3]

What has he said that's really been bad? He's been amazing so far.

And, quotes are being pulled out of the interview and being sensationalized. All he really said is that the front office is completely on board with Joba starting, and anyone who feels his future isn't in the rotation is an idiot.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yeah, I'm surprised that ESPN isn't trumpeting the "anyone who doesn't do that is an idiot" line harder, trying to drive a wedge between him and Joe

[Stormrider666]

yeah, I'm surprised that ESPN isn't trumpeting the "anyone who doesn't do that is an idiot" line harder, trying to drive a wedge between him and Joe

They're kind of busy celebrating Danika Patrick's first win, the fact that they revealed Miguel Tejada's age, and trying to will the Lakers/Celtics into the NBA finals.

[mik3]

yeah, I'm surprised that ESPN isn't trumpeting the "anyone who doesn't do that is an idiot" line harder, trying to drive a wedge between him and Joe
Probably because just about all the idiots that work for ESPN say he should be in the pen, so it wouldn't reflect too hot.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

Well, he said that moving Joba to the bullpen last year was a mistake and that he wouldn't have hallowed it to happen if he'd been in charge at the time. That move was what was best for Joba's arm and future. Yeah, he could probably slide into the rotation right now and have an excellent year, but why rush it if you can wait 2-3 months and have him have several excellent years?

He also not-so-subtly slammed and embarrassed Mussina by letting it be known that he'll be out of the rotation before the year's over, which could wind up having a negative impact on the team's morale when players see the boss taking shots at a veteran who has been a clubhouse leader (especially with the younger guys he knows will eventually take his spot). Even though he really didn't say anything that wasn't true (Moose does need to adapt how he pitches to his current stuff and stop trying to pitch like he's 28), it's disrespectful to a guy who has had several good years for this team and has helped guys like Hughes and Kennedy adapt to big-league life. I want Joba to replace Mussina in the rotation at some point this year, but Hank seems like he wants it to happen right away when that's not what's best for Chamberlain's long-term health and performance (and ultimately the Yankees' staff since they figure on him being a big part of it for years to come).

What has he said that's really been bad? He's been amazing so far.

And, quotes are being pulled out of the interview and being sensationalized. All he really said is that the front office is completely on board with Joba starting, and anyone who feels his future isn't in the rotation is an idiot.

[mik3]

He didn't really talk much about right now though. He talked about this year, while understanding his innings cap and such.

[mik3]

Winning games where Wang pretty much looked like he had nothing is fun.

[25133WhooOoAH]

Last 2 Wang outings we won and it was cause of our offense.

[Perch1019]

I can not stand how Michael Kay feels he needs to suck the dick of whatever former Yankee is in the box with him that night. It will never get old hearing about the dynasty teams but it really starts to get annoying when hes doing it every night.

[BaLZaC~308]

close game so far

[Steam]

Good game from Moose tonight. Would have been nice if Hawkins could have stepped up but what can you do.

Typical Yankees April thus far. Hopefully, Phil and Ike get on board soon and they can go on a run and set a good tone for the season.

Don't know if I mentioned this yet or not, but I went to watch Trenton play last weekend and I'm in love with Austin Jackson.

[mik3]

I've been to quite a few Trenton games, they're really fun to watch.

McCutchen, Robertson, Kontos, Curtis, Gardner, Jackson, Tabata, and Russo will probably all make the majors some day soon.

[Steam]

I've been to quite a few Trenton games, they're really fun to watch.

McCutchen, Robertson, Kontos, Curtis, Gardner, Jackson, Tabata, and Russo will probably all make the majors some day soon.

I only get to go when they're in New Britain, so my last chance of the season will be the end of May.

I think McCutchen will find himself in the pen at some point this year. Not sure of the others besides Jackson and Tabata.

[mik3]

Robertson is sick, there's no reason at all he should have signed with the yankees and pretty much was just a courtesy pick in the 17th round. Four seamer sits around 96, two seamer in the low 90s. He throws a cutter at about 90 and a tilting slider at about 88. Questions about his control, but that's it. Last year he went 8-3 in 44 games. 84.1ip 45h 32bb 113k .96era 0hr 12k/9

[mik3]

Kontos is another good college starter who averages way fewer than a hit per inning. Gardner's putted around in the minor for a while but the last two years he seems to have really figure it out.

Curtis is all tools, he's projected to be Brett Gardner with pop.

[Steam]

Kontos is another good college starter who averages way fewer than a hit per inning. Gardner's putted around in the minor for a while but the last two years he seems to have really figure it out.

Curtis is all tools, he's projected to be Brett Gardner with pop.

Didn't see Robertson but Kontos pitched the game I went to and did alright. Not really spectacular. I will have to see him more before I make my own judgment. It wasn't like Kennedy last year where I knew he'd be up.

I'm waiting on Curtis too. He seems to be the same as when I saw him last year.

I'm hoping to maybe go to two games in May depending on how much time and how much gas is.

[mik3]

There was some talk, before Bruney lost 25lbs and Hawkins was signed, about giving Robertson a serious shot to make the team this spring.

So far this year he's 14ip 7h 1er 6bb 21k and a 1.22g/f

[askewcore]

Mik, what happened to JB Cox? I heard good things about him when we drafted him.


Gavin Floyd is gonna be tough tonight because we have so little experience against him. I hate when the Yanks have never seen a pitcher before.

[mik3]

He had non-TJS elbow surgery. He just started pitching in games for the first time since 06.

6ip 2er 2bb/2k but a 3.25g/f

[Perch1019]

Whats the weather situation like? Is this game going to resume?
EDIT: guess so.

Sucks they had to take Hughes out. He was finally having a good outing.

[mik3]

He hit 95 a couple times tonight, that was pretty crazy.

I'm WAY more worried about Kennedy than Hughes.

[askewcore]

Kennedy......Kennedy has looked like he has no confidence in his stuff. At least Hughes knows he has nasty shit, he was just not throwing strikes his first few starts. Kennedy has to hit corners to be effective because his stuff isnt as good and he has been all over the place.

Joba taking a L feels odd.

[mik3]

Bruney's probably done for the year, he looked great so far. Moeller got DFA'd. Albaladejo and Britton up.

Robertson's going to AAA to replace them, if he keeps pitching well then there's a ton of options in AAA. The two guys up today, Robertson, Edwar, Giese, Veras, and Heath Phillips.

Also, JB Cox is going to AA to replace Robertson.

[Stormrider666]

Bruney's probably done for the year, he looked great so far. Moeller got DFA'd. Albaladejo and Britton up.

Robertson's going to AAA to replace them, if he keeps pitching well then there's a ton of options in AAA. The two guys up today, Robertson, Edwar, Giese, Veras, and Heath Phillips.

Also, JB Cox is going to AA to replace Robertson.

Bruney did look great so far and that's fucked up if he is done for the year. Edwar I haven't really been impressed with from what I have seen.

[mik3]

Edwar was used horribly last year, he wouldn't pitch for two weeks then Torre would be shocked that he gave up a home run.

So far this year he's something like 12ip 16k 1bb 3h 0r between AAA and the majors.

[Perch1019]

That really is a shame about Bruney. He was a dependable guy thus far.
Is Arod back tonight?

[Steam]

Edwar was used horribly last year, he wouldn't pitch for two weeks then Torre would be shocked that he gave up a home run.

So far this year he's something like 12ip 16k 1bb 3h 0r between AAA and the majors.

One of Torre's many botchjobs in the pen. I like Edwar.

[mik3]

That really is a shame about Bruney. He was a dependable guy thus far.
Is Arod back tonight?
Not only back, but playing 3b.

Everyone thought he wouldn't play tonight, then the Indians showed up at the park and ARod was running WR patterns in the OF like he always does.

[Steam]

Sucks about Bruney but I'm hoping that this will force one of the other guys to step it up. Someone like Albaladejo.

[mik3]

There's options there, both of our Maryland area steals of the last two off seasons will get their chances. Maybe Britton will follow Bruney's lead and drop a couple pounds.

[Steam]

There's options there, both of our Maryland area steals of the last two off seasons will get their chances. Maybe Britton will follow Bruney's lead and drop a couple pounds.

I'm not overly sold on Britton. I expect bigger things out of Albaladejo. I just want some of these guys to pan out and contribute enough to the guys like Melancon, Cox, etc are ready for the big time.

[mik3]

Britton's a fat mess and all, but he does have more of a major league and higher minor league track record than Albaladejo.

[mik3]

Traber down, Shelley up.

[askewcore]

Traber down, Shelley up.

Good and Better

[mik3]

Robertson gave up a run today, but it was in 3.2, crazy.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

man...we got lucky on that call right there, the ball was on the back of Cano's glove, not even close to being in his possession. Thank God for Jorge and that pinch hit 3 run triple...too bad I'm a retard and don't have him in my line-up. I gotta go change that, like right now

[bill333]

I know it's early and haven't really watched any games yet but this team is pissing me off.

[mik3]

Jorge has a slight tear in his shoulder, DL.

[Stormrider666]

I know its early, but if we make it to the playoffs, I hope Wang can pitch again like he did today. Sucks Posada is on the DL. Hopefully Moeller made it through waivers so we can bring him back up.

[lockjaaaaww]

1-0 win today

[tysonpunchinguterus]

It's too bad he won't be able to DH while his shoulder heals. He was still putting up good numbers at the plate, but it's better that he gets back to 100%, so some of the other guys in the lineup better start hitting like they can.

Jorge has a slight tear in his shoulder, DL.

[mik3]

If Jorge's injury is serious than I'd say the team is one injury away from signing Barry Bonds, which I'd sign on for in a heartbeat.

[Stormrider666]

If Jorge's injury is serious than I'd say the team is one injury away from signing Barry Bonds, which I'd sign on for in a heartbeat.

I would rather the Yankees go 70-92 instead of signing Barry Bonds and all the headaches associated with him.

[mik3]

There's really no headaches other than the legal stuff, and he won't go to trial till after the season.

[Perch1019]

If Jorge's injury is serious than I'd say the team is one injury away from signing Barry Bonds, which I'd sign on for in a heartbeat.

I said last year if they signed Roger, I would jump ship. I didnt.
That being said if they sign Bonds, Im out. I hate him as a person and want nothing to do with rooting for him. I dont care how many home runs he could possibly hit or how many times he get on base. Fuck him. Id be embarassed to say I root for the Yankee organization if they bring him aboard.
What freaks me out the most is as soon as I finished typing that, I realized that if anyone is going to make that move its going to be Hank Steinbrenner.

[mik3]

Why? Because Hank Steinbrenner wants to win championships. I hate to break it to you, but this team doesn't have a lot of sweethearts. The media hates Mussina. The league hates ARod. Giambi and Pettitte got caught doing steroids.

What would Bonds be bringing to the team that's not there already?

Other than a guy who will slug .600 and be on base almost half the time.

[Steam]

Why? Because Hank Steinbrenner wants to win championships. I hate to break it to you, but this team doesn't have a lot of sweethearts. The media hates Mussina. The league hates ARod. Giambi and Pettitte got caught doing steroids.

What would Bonds be bringing to the team that's not there already?

Other than a guy who will slug .600 and be on base almost half the time.

The problem with that is that I personally like those guys. I don't give a fuck what the media thinks of them.

On the other hand, I can not stand Barry Bonds. I hated when the Yankees got the likes of Johnson, Sheffield, Lofton, etc and it made rooting for them much more tedious. I would sooner have a competitive team that doesn't necessarily win it every year than have a team of mercenaries that I can not fucking stand.

[mik3]

Bonds is a mercenary I'd take, 'cause I know it'd be for one year and that's it. He'd hit about 25hr in 300ab, and help this team out.

There's no room for him right now though, so it's a moot point.

[Perch1019]

Why? Because Hank Steinbrenner wants to win championships. I hate to break it to you, but this team doesn't have a lot of sweethearts. The media hates Mussina. The league hates ARod. Giambi and Pettitte got caught doing steroids.

What would Bonds be bringing to the team that's not there already?

Other than a guy who will slug .600 and be on base almost half the time.

Bonds is just a piece of shit and he would most surely be a cancer to the locker room. Hes not a nice person and hes all about Barry Bonds. There are times when I really despise having Arod on the team but there are times you can like him for the effort he puts out. Bonds just doesnt seem to care like that. I dont deny he could be a huge asset but do you really want to see that Gorilla standing in the batters box walking to first as he hits another bomb? That image made me sick everytime he would do it in San Fran.
It has nothing to do with his Roid involvement either. I just think as a person, he is a douche and is not someone I would ever want to root for.

[mik3]

Who's ever called Bonds a cancer other than Jeff Kent? Who's been considered a douche bag since he was a Met.

Sheff was a "cancer" when he came here, and by the time he left he was loved by EVERYONE on the team. He was also the only player that ever stood up for ARod other than Mussina.

[mik3]

Two really well pitched games in a row for the team and two really good starts for Mussina in a row.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Umm...yeah, so Jorge's on the DL for the first time in his career.

Posada seen 'likely to return to action this season' (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3373368)

I had no idea that his shoulder was that fucked up. 15 day DL, yet from the headline it almost seems like he's lucky he didn't wind up on the 60

Posada seen likely to return to action this season

Jorge Posada's shoulder injury does not appear to be season-threatening. That's the early word on the New York Yankees catcher following an exam by Dr. James Andrews on Monday.

Posada was placed on the 15-day disabled list for the first time in his career on Monday, ending a remarkable run of durability at baseball's most physically demanding position.

The 36-year-old, who has caught at least 120 games in each of the past eight seasons, finally succumbed to pain in his right shoulder that he had been feeling for most of the season's first month.

While the early indications point to a return this season for Posada, a complete diagnosis won't be known for a few more days.

With Posada out, Jose Molina will take over the starting catching duties. The Yankees also recalled 26-year-old Chris Stewart from Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.

On Sunday, an emotional Posada said he was worried that his shoulder, which had been acting up for weeks, was more damaged than initial tests showed. An MRI revealed a strain and Posada was hoping rest and rehab could strengthen his shoulder enough to let him play.

He sat out for a few games and seemed to be making progress but felt pain in his shoulder while making a throw to third base after a strikeout on Saturday. The pain lingered the following day and Posada, who had a torn labrum repaired in the shoulder by Andrews after the 2001 season, decided it was time to find out exactly what was wrong.

"Jorge has been frustrated because it hasn't responded the way he had hoped," manager Joe Girardi said. "I think players always think the worst, and managers think the best."

Girardi said if Posada only has a strained shoulder, surgery will not be necessary.

[mik3]

Wow, WTG ESPN making it sound like it's not season ending but he'll be out for most of it. The word that's come out today is pretty much don't be surprised if he's back after 15 days.

The injury ended up being the same area, but not as bad as Harden's current injury. Harden will end up missing a month as a pitcher with a grade higher strain. So if Jorge misses more than 20 games I'd be surprised.

[Steam]

Fucking Phil is testing me. I just hope they don't do anything stupid with him.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

A-Rod's going on the DL with his quad injury.

[mik3]

The only thing helping the Yankees this year so far is how bad Boston/Cleveland/Detroit have started. If anyone of those teams had started hot I'd be a little worried.

[Stormrider666]

The only thing helping the Yankees this year so far is how bad Boston/Cleveland/Detroit have started. If anyone of those teams had started hot I'd be a little worried.

Yeah that's the only thing that is preventing me from hitting the panic button. That being said, I'm starting to worry about Hughes and Kennedy, just for this season. I still think they will be pitching studs in the future.

[Steam]

Yeah that's the only thing that is preventing me from hitting the panic button. That being said, I'm starting to worry about Hughes and Kennedy, just for this season. I still think they will be pitching studs in the future.

I just hope that they don't drop the ball on either of them. George tried to run Pettitte out of town, maybe Hank will actually do that with Phil.

I don't want them to throw away the future just for one year.

[mik3]

Hank loves the pitchers, he won't trade them.

You can't take his stance with Santana, possibly the best pitcher in baseball, as being his stance with everyone.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

okay....Kay is ridiculous

"I've talked to a lot of people in baseball and every single one of them loved John Flaherty"

he continued along the same way for the rest of Abreu's at bat. You know Flaherty has to be just sitting there and shivering with the douche-chills

[Steam]

Hank loves the pitchers, he won't trade them.

You can't take his stance with Santana, possibly the best pitcher in baseball, as being his stance with everyone.

The guy seems to have a rather panicked air to him that doesn't seem to respect Cashman's opinion. You can't take his posturing about how upset he was in the 80s when they traded Drabek seriously considering his ranting and raving.

okay....Kay is ridiculous

"I've talked to a lot of people in baseball and every single one of them loved John Flaherty"

he continued along the same way for the rest of Abreu's at bat. You know Flaherty has to be just sitting there and shivering with the douche-chills


Michael Kay has been a useless douche ever since they paired him up with Sterling.

[mik3]

Johnny Damon has been coming to bat to Edge's entrance music, nice.

[Steam]

Johnny Damon has been coming to bat to Edge's entrance music, nice.

Would have been nicer if he could have made a play on Thames' homer.

[mik3]

Giambi has better hops than Damon. That's not even a joke.

[askewcore]

Giambi has better hops than Damon. That's not even a joke.

Better arm too. Neither is that.

Someone should come out to Val Venis' music.

[askewcore]

Hughes to the 15 day DL. Strained Oblique. Assfuck.

Igawa, Rasner, Karstens as possible replacements?

[mik3]

Maybe they'll 60 day Bruney and purchase McCutchen.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

apparently for Hughes it's not so much a "strained oblique" as it's more of a "stress fracture of his 9th rib" and his 15 days now = 6-8 weeks

[Stormrider666]

apparently for Hughes it's not so much a "strained oblique" as it's more of a "stress fracture of his 9th rib" and his 15 days now = 6-8 weeks

Yeah just heard the news. Supposedly he injured it from coughing. Please do not let this be a preview of things to come in his future.

[Steam]

I'm going to keep the faith on him. Just another setback for him.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Yeah just heard the news. Supposedly he injured it from coughing. Please do not let this be a preview of things to come in his future.

coughing? Since when did you spell "Phil Hughes" C-a-r-l P-a-v-a-n-o? "whaa" :yuck2:


He better be fine

[Steam]

coughing? Since when did you spell "Phil Hughes" C-a-r-l P-a-v-a-n-o? "whaa" :yuck2:


He better be fine

I don't think that they've traced it to anything. He says that it has bothered him since the day after the rain delay ruined his start last week.

[mik3]

I'm sure everyone thought one of the nine relievers would have been sent down for Rasner today.

Nope, IPK to Scranton.

[Stormrider666]

I'm sure everyone thought one of the nine relievers would have been sent down for Rasner today.

Nope, IPK to Scranton.

I don't know, I kind of agree with the decision to send him down, especially after hearing his reaction it. Yeah it sucks and all, but the guy has to expect to have every pitch analyzed. Let Ian Kennedy go down to Scranton, work some things out, and then come back. I still think the guy is going to be good in the future.

[mik3]

I guess, but at the same time I don't understand sending a guy down who was really good at AAA already. If he skipped AAA I'd understand sending him down. Especially since there's 9 relievers and you could have him work with Eiland while skipping his next start.

[Steam]

I guess, but at the same time I don't understand sending a guy down who was really good at AAA already. If he skipped AAA I'd understand sending him down. Especially since there's 9 relievers and you could have him work with Eiland while skipping his next start.

They need him to get his regular work in. He was only at Triple A for a little over a month last year, so I don't see the harm.

At this point he isn't helping the major league club out that much.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

But Kennedy wasn't going to start for at least one turn through the rotation. Keeping all of those relievers gives them arms to use in a blowout, epsecially if the Yanks are on the losing end of it because that probably means that the starter didn't last too long (and with Igawa looking like a strong possibility to get a start next week, that's more than likely). It's better to have guys in the bullpen who will be used at some point than it is to have a starter sitting in the dugout during games for the next 9-10 days. If he gets going in AAA, he'll get his confidence back and be back in NY soon enough.

I guess, but at the same time I don't understand sending a guy down who was really good at AAA already. If he skipped AAA I'd understand sending him down. Especially since there's 9 relievers and you could have him work with Eiland while skipping his next start.

[FullBallz]

So in reading Abraham's blog, they are thinking of using Igawa for a start in Detroit this weekend. I'm already planning things to do to make sure I don't see the game or the result of it.

[mik3]

Johnny Damon has a .921ops, wow. Pretty quietly.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

So in reading Abraham's blog, they are thinking of using Igawa for a start in Detroit this weekend. I'm already planning things to do to make sure I don't see the game or the result of it.

Igawa's line: 4+IP, 98 pitches (41 strikes), 8 BB, 9 hits, 6 ER


I'd rather have Hideki Irabu instead

[mik3]

Igawa is AAA Johan Santana though, so I guess he's earned his shot.

[mik3]

I think we've found the first inductee to Monument Park at the new stadium,

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Woman+faces+life+in+prison+a fter+ramming+car+into+pair%2C+killing+one&articleId=aa47d627-4388-46c8-89bf-4064669824f3

[Jimmy's Dignity]

hahaha, she's a winner alright :haha7: :haha7: :haha7:

[mik3]

IAAAAAAAAN KENNEDY.............KENNEDY

7.1ip 1h 0r 0bb 8k

[bill333]

IAAAAAAAAN KENNEDY.............KENNEDY

7.1ip 1h 0r 0bb 8k

when he does that or close to it, in the big leagues, then I'll be impressed.


Good thing is, he's young

[Steam]

when he does that or close to it, in the big leagues, then I'll be impressed.


Good thing is, he's young

He'll be fine.

You have to keep in mind that he started out last year in A.

[Perch1019]

I cant get excited for Mr Kennedy yet. Kei Igawa was Cy Young in the minors last year yet everytime he came up it was a nightmare. When he puts together back to back quality starts, then maybe i wont worry when hes starting.
This is the first game ive seen in 2 weeks. Do we get nervous anymore when Farnsworth comes in or does he actually get guys out now

Kennedy.

[mik3]

Farnsworth had a really long stretch last year where he was effective also, till Torre started putting him out there no matter what the score, then banished him when he gave up a run or two.

I think he's legit now. He's got a cutter, the 95+ four seamer, and the slider. He's also been throwing the slider for strikes this year, not just as a show me or in the dirt pitch.

[askewcore]

He's also been throwing the slider for strikes this year, not just as a show me or in the dirt pitch.

That is the key. He can usually throw his fastball over, but his slider is nasty he just almost never throws it for strikes, if he does, he can be very effective. I still am not gonna get excited about him or anything.

I think Kennedy.........Kennedy was trying to make a statement with that AAA start. I think I heard he was gonna make a minimum of three starts down there. I also fully expect Igawa to shit the bed this weekend so I'm thinkin they might cut that short.

[Stormrider666]

Yeah I have been real impressed with Farnsworth this year. I think they should stick to the plan with Kennedy and let him make at least 3 starts, before they bring him back up. Let him rebuild his confidence. What's the over/under how many runs Igawa will give up this weekend.

[askewcore]

What's the over/under how many runs Igawa will give up this weekend.

6? I would be happy with 4 runs and 6 innings. I have no faith in that fuck.

[bill333]

What's the over/under how many runs Igawa will give up this weekend.


3,986

give or take a few

[Jimmy's Dignity]

$50 on the over

[Steam]

For some reason, I have confidence in Igawa.

I think he will surprise people.

[bill333]

For some reason, I have confidence in Igawa.

I think he will surprise people.


gonna pull a Pearl Harbor on us?


It'd be a pleasant surprise and much needed one. I don't want to see them start falling too far behind.

[Steam]

gonna pull a Pearl Harbor on us?


It'd be a pleasant surprise and much needed one. I don't want to see them start falling too far behind.

The Pearl Harbor analogy was at its finest last year when he came into that game against the Sox after Karstens got injured and had his best game of the year. They weren't expecting him, and then, BAM! He owned them.

I just want a quality start out of him and some signs of life just so at the very least they have a future trading chip.

[Steam]

I think that David Cone isn't too familiar with WHIP. 1.50? That's fucking terrible.

[mik3]

As "scary" as everyone says Detroit's lineup is, they're probably a good lineup for Igawa to face. They don't work walks(Matsuzaka's 8bb outing was based on terrible control, not working counts) and the really only have two serious power hitters who he I think will know to work around.

also, hah,
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/8408/psychedupvj4.jpg

[bill333]

3,986

give or take a few


I'd like to up my bid

he doesn't suck, he suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I turn on the game, first thing I hear, "Joe Girardi pulls out Kei Igawa..."


Can we send that fucking Nip back to Japan as 100% defective? Why couldn't his family have been from Hiroshima?

[Steam]

For some reason, I have confidence in Igawa.

I think he will surprise people.

Ok, take that "people" and make it "person" and he did surprise one person: me.

It is a surprise to me that I could be so fucking stupid in believing that that fucking useless pile of Japo would be of any service to them tonight.

Fuck you Kei Igawa, fuck you in your fucking fuck hole.

Edit: Oh yeah, they should have punched out of this debacle last year and sent him to San Diego. Fuck you Kei Igawa.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0917/pg2_a_irabu_195.jpg Hideki Irabu >>http://mointhe9th.mlblogs.com/my_weblog/images/iggy2.jpg Kei Igawa

[Jimmy's Dignity]

oh man...nice job by Abreu :D

here's to hoping Shelly Duncan can jack this one into the stratosphere! Meh...or he can fly out to center. At least, Igawa was the cunt who got saddled with the loss

[askewcore]

Hideki Irabu >> Kei Igawa

At least Irabu gave us the "fat pussie toad" line.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

Hideki Irabu >> Kei Igawa

Sadly, that's not even an exaggeration.

[mik3]

Igawa is AAA Johan Santana so as long as he's in the organization he'll keep getting chances.

I will say though, if the Yankees had a competent third baseman last night, Igawa probably goes 5 and the Yankees win. Along with there being another terrible Jeter throw.