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stevethrower
03-18-2008, 10:11 AM
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A Taunton state representative wants to make Massachusetts the first state to declare driving under the influence of alcohol - even one green beer - flat out illegal.

Rep. James Fagan’s legislation would slash the current .08 blood-alcohol limit recognized nationwide as the standard for being legally drunk to .02. Federal government research indicates a 160- to 240-pound man would register .02 sipping one glass of wine over the course of an hour.

“I think my friends in the Legislature are going to say, ‘Fagan, have you lost your mind?’ ” the Democrat and criminal defense attorney said yesterday.

“You can drink all you want, but you can’t drive. Plain and simple.”

Other countries have set a .02 blood-alcohol limit for driving, including Sweden, Poland, Russia and Norway.

Though his cocktail of choice is a chocolate frappe with a strawberry ice cream chaser, Fagan, 60, who said he has represented “thousands” of accused drunken drivers at trial, is no teetotaller.

He simply believes that allowing people to imbibe and drive up to a point encourages “legalized alcohol gambling” by those raising a bottle to their lips and guessing when enough is enough - if at all.

By eliminating shades of drunkenness, Fagan suggests the responsible social drinker would be protected from arrest if caught with boozy breath because another driver hit them or they were stopped for a broken headlight.

“There’s absolutely no denying the amount of personal tragedy and social harm that results from people who drive impaired,” Fagan said, “but should we publicly Taser them? Cauterize their tonsils so they can’t drink? We’re running out of punitive measures.”

Ron Bersani, 61, of Marshfield, whose 13-year-old granddaughter Melanie Powell’s death by a drunken driver in 2003 inspired Melanie’s Law, is one of the state’s best-known proponents of cracking down on lushes at the wheel. But even he thinks lowering the blood-alcohol limit to .02 is “foolish.”

“You couldn’t even go to a wedding and have a toast,” he said.

Revelers at yesterday’s St. Patrick’s Day Parade in South Boston were also finding Fagan’s bill hard to swallow.

“If this becomes law, then they’d better improve public transportation,” said Mike Hickey of Southie.

Margo Downey of Brighton said the proposal, to be heard tomorrow at the State House, borders on zero tolerance.

“This is just a huge sledgehammer to everyone,” Downey said. “If the buses or trains ran all night then it might be acceptable, but at the moment this is just unfair.”

Fagan realizes his bill isn’t a fool-proof deterrent any more than any punitive law.

“Society in general needs to recognize that no amount of laws will ultimately do away with everyone who intends to abuse the situation,” Fagan said.

“But right now, we’re all in jeopardy. It’s just a matter of accident, fate or the whim of a police officer on any given night.”




Looks like he has had a few over the years...

:kjk:

Link (http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/politics/view.bg?articleid=1080856&srvc=home&position=4)

Jimmy's Dignity
03-18-2008, 10:20 AM
"If this becomes law, then they’d better improve public transportation,” said Mike Hickey of Southie


Well. No shit...

LiddyRules
03-18-2008, 10:25 AM
Though his cocktail of choice is a chocolate frappe with a strawberry ice cream chaser, Fagan, 60, who said he has represented “thousands” of accused drunken drivers at trial, is no teetotaller. I know a line like this is supposed to give him the human touch but it throws me further down my misanthropic hole of humanity hatred.

I don't know who I hate more the reporter to asked that, the reporter who printed it, or him for saying that. No politician should try to be that cutesy. No human being's favorite drink should have more sugar than a glass of sugar.

MrBogey
03-18-2008, 10:40 AM
Why is everyone so mad? The guy is trying to make everyone safer. Well I for one applaud his thoughtful efforts to keep me from driving at an unsafe 0.06 BAC.

Ego
03-18-2008, 10:45 AM
Works for me.

Hoagie
03-18-2008, 12:28 PM
Ted Kennedy is going to have him killed.

Sinn Fein
03-18-2008, 12:29 PM
Ted Kennedy is going to have him killed.

It's probably of no concern to him, as I'm sure the murdering alcoholic has a designated driver.

Treat_Yourself
03-18-2008, 12:44 PM
Every bar and nightclub will go out of business if such a law is enforced.

TheDrip
03-18-2008, 01:14 PM
He must have read something wrong in his research. In Russia you need a minimum of .02 before you can operate a vehicle.


In Soviet Russia....

stevethrower
03-18-2008, 01:18 PM
It's probably of no concern to him, as I'm sure the murdering alcoholic has a designated driver.

Well now he has...:rolleyes:

LiddyRules
03-18-2008, 01:20 PM
He must have read something wrong in his research. In Russia you need a minimum of .02 before you can operate a vehicle. And in Poland the BAC has to read .20

TheDrip
03-18-2008, 01:47 PM
And in Poland the BAC has to read .20

Well, we are a strong livered people.

Ego
03-18-2008, 11:57 PM
Every bar and nightclub will go out of business if such a law is enforced.
If you want to drink that badly, you'll get a designated driver.

ruckstande
03-19-2008, 12:05 AM
If you want to drink that badly, you'll get a designated driver.

If I want to drink that badly I'll take responsibility for myself instead of allowing the government to bust my balls when I know my own limit.

Voss's Tumor
03-19-2008, 12:32 AM
If I want to drink that badly I'll take responsibility for myself instead of allowing the government to bust my balls when I know my own limit.

Shhh, the nanny's will hear you

jackjack
03-19-2008, 12:45 AM
I think that law has a chance of passing.
Despite their love for the Kennedys, MA is tough on booze. Only recently it was allowed to be sold on Sundays. Beer or wine isn't sold in convenience stores, grocery stores, or walmart/costco type stores.

Voss's Tumor
03-19-2008, 01:04 AM
Yeah man, but you have NO idea what a law like this will allow cops to get away with on traffic stops.

If you live in Mass and this law passes, stop drinking completely or move away. There is no such thing as you being a responsible adult any more.

BIV
03-19-2008, 02:20 AM
Rep. James Fagan’s legislation would slash the current .08 blood-alcohol limit recognized nationwide as the standard for being legally drunk to .02.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!


In Soviet Russia....
...alcohol drinks YOU!!!

DonTheTrucker
03-19-2008, 02:35 AM
It's probably of no concern to him, as I'm sure the murdering alcoholic has a designated driver.

Actually he can't get it up so he can't knock up any young girls, thus eliminating the need to drive them into water.

mascan42
03-19-2008, 10:09 AM
Though his cocktail of choice is a chocolate frappe with a strawberry ice cream chaser
FA-HA-HA-HA-GOT

Vyce
03-19-2008, 10:21 AM
I know a line like this is supposed to give him the human touch but it throws me further down my misanthropic hole of humanity hatred.

I don't know who I hate more the reporter to asked that, the reporter who printed it, or him for saying that. No politician should try to be that cutesy. No human being's favorite drink should have more sugar than a glass of sugar.

Oh Liddy Rules, how happy you've made me, because of the perfect setup for me to post this:

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distortion9
03-19-2008, 10:46 AM
“I think my friends in the Legislature are going to say, ‘Fagan, have you lost your mind?’ ” the Democrat and criminal defense attorney said yesterday.


He's just trying to drum up some business.

Treat_Yourself
03-19-2008, 11:38 AM
If you want to drink that badly, you'll get a designated driver.

Nope. I just drink at home or at a friend's house that doesn't mind me hanging out until I sober up. If I owned a bar over there I'd be trying to sell it and my liquor license right away before my customers disappear.

LiddyRules
03-19-2008, 05:25 PM
Oh Liddy Rules, how happy you've made me, because of the perfect setup for me to post this:

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Kids in the Hall make any day better.

Vyce
03-19-2008, 05:49 PM
Kids in the Hall make any day better.

Now all I need is for someone to make a post about sausages.

(god I hope that someone here gets that)

LiddyRules
03-19-2008, 06:39 PM
Now all I need is for someone to make a post about sausages.

(god I hope that someone here gets that)

Hey! I heard that Jimmy Dean was cutting down the size of their sassijes. Some people seem to be in quite a tizzy about it. (Yes, I posted the clip when that controversy went down.)

oandapartycock
03-20-2008, 03:16 AM
Tic Toc, Tic Toc.

Can't wait until this fucking hypocrite is arrested in the next couple of years with a DUI because of a cop that plays by the rules.