WHEN ORDERING PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH signs ok.

[DC Chick]

Remember this guy? (http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=104&sid=1310882)
'Speak English' Signs OK at Philly Shop
March 19, 2008 - 7:38pm
By PATRICK WALTERS
Associated Press Writer

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - The owner of a famous cheesesteak shop did not discriminate when he posted signs asking customers to speak English, a city panel ruled Wednesday.

In a 2-1 vote, a Commission on Human Relations panel found that two signs at Geno's Steaks telling customers, "This is America: WHEN ORDERING 'PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH,'" do not violate the city's Fair Practices Ordinance.

Shop owner Joe Vento has said he posted the signs in October 2005 because of concerns over immigration reform and an increasing number of people in the area who could not order in English.

Vento has said he never refused service to anyone because they couldn't speak English. But critics argued that the signs discourage customers of certain backgrounds from eating at the shop.

Commissioners Roxanne E. Covington and Burt Siegel voted to dismiss the complaint, finding that the sign does not communicate that business will be "refused, withheld or denied."

In a dissenting opinion, Commissioner Joseph J. Centeno said he thought the signs did discourage some customers.

"The sign appeared immediately above another sign that had the following words: 'Management Reserves the Right to Refuse Service,'" Centeno wrote.

Geno's and its chief rival across the street, Pat's King of Steaks, are two of the city's best known cheesesteak venues. A growing number of Asian and Latin American immigrants have moved into the traditionally Italian neighborhood in recent years.

Vento had threatened to go to court if he lost. His attorney, Albert G. Weiss, said he was "pleasantly surprised" by Wednesday's decision.

"We expected that this was not going to go our way," Weiss said.

In February 2007, the commission found probable cause against Geno's for discrimination, alleging that the policy discourages customers of certain backgrounds from eating there.

The case went to a public hearing, where an attorney for the commission argued that the sign was about intimidation, not political speech. The matter then went to the three-member panel for a ruling.

W. Nick Taliaferro, the commission's executive director, said he would not appeal.

(Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.)
He was on O+A at least once before. Maybe more than that?

[THE FEZ MAN]

its big news in philly

right below i 95 falling appart

[Myhairygrundle]

English...motherfucker! Do you speak it???!!!!! Do they speak English in what???!!!

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee263/baldidaniele/pulp_fiction.jpg

[Kris_LTRMa]

there should never have been a question as to whether or not they're legal. I'm glad he won his case.

[Sinn Fein]

Good. The PC douchebags take a hit on this one. Fuck 'em. Chalk one up for Joe Vento and those of us like him.

[blazin]

Its ashame I can't say "Your cheesesteaks are garbage and overrated" in another language.

[Sinn Fein]

Geno's > Pat's. Plus, Joe gets points for his philosphy.

Tony Luke's is better than both, IMHO. And, I can get a better sandwich locally than any of them.

[Aizazzle]

Good for him, I'm happy the PC police took one in the cunt...

Geno's > Pat's. Plus, Joe gets points for his philosphy.
Yup Geno's beats Pat's any day of the week.

Tony Luke's is better than both, IMHO. And, I can get a better sandwich locally than any of them.
Sinn, I'm dreadfully disappointed in you for missing Steve's

[kidconnor]

:clap:Bravo to him.

Even his lawyer says he did not see this going their way.

Good for him for standing his ground and better for all of us that he won.

[Sinn Fein]

Sinn, I'm dreadfully disappointed in you for missing Steve's

I've mentioned Steve's in previous threads on this topic.

I actually was gonna stop at Steve's the other day for lunch because I was in the area but I got too busy to even take a break for lunch.

[maz]

Vento Rules

don't tell Ronnie B
that i said that
lol

[oandapartycock]

Yay Joey! Too bad the bbboys are on vacation, because it seems like a Pest Attack needs to go out to Commissioner Joseph J. Centeno.

[mikeybot]

Good ruling, Geno's fatty steaks suck though.

[stillbornstew]

if/when i get my orders to DC, i really need to head out to philly to try these cheese-steaks i keep hearing about.

[mikeybot]

They're quite good. Skip Pat's, Geno's and Jim's though. They're for tourists and post drinking food.

[moegolden]

now he just needs a "KILL MUMIA" sign

[DonTheTrucker]

I prefer Pats too, but I'll buy a steak from this guy once in a while when I'm in the area just on GP.

Then for my second steak I go across the street :D

[burky79]

¡muy bien! que le haga provecho

[Dr. Hoffman]

I know its been awhile since the boys talked about this story, but Joey Vento won his case and may keep his signs up at Gino's;

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/19/englishonly.cheesesteaks.ap/index.html

[Arch Stanton]

Now, if maybe he can make a good sammich.

( Never been there, just read here that it could be better)

[Ego]

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[bb1mobile]

Good for Joey.

Fuck the pc asshats.

[sbrainb]

Ummm, hi... it's a private establishment, not a fucking public hospital or some shit. There are a number of places (restaurants, bars, etc) in Japan that have signs saying flat out "no foreigners" and no one really makes a big deal out of it. These people are acting like wolfing down a cheesesteak is a basic human right.

[cigarsandscotch]

che?

[Hudson]

wow! Really? that's Awesome!

[clrd2lnd]

Good for him!

There is still a little hope left in this country.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

I hate when Mexicans and Dominicans walk into where I work and start speaking Spanish to me, then act like I'm an asshole for not knowing what they're saying. They hold up the fucking line for 5 minutes because they think some bullshit piece of plastic labeled an "International Driver's License" is valid ID or that I'll believe that a laminated color photocopy of a Resident Alien ID numbered 123456789 and an expiration date of 06/07/08 is valid ID. And yes, I really have seen that ID--sometimes from 3 of them in a row who all got out of the same landscaping truck. Not only do I get the lovely gift of having to deal with the illegal immigrant who doesn't speak English and is trying to argue with me anyway, but I get to deal with the pissed off customers who were stuck behind them for 10 minutes. But I guess Geraldo was right when he said that nobody in America is inconvenienced by immigrants who can't speak English. After all, "Press 2 for Spanish" doesn't affect me at all, right?

[Debbie1125]

Good for Joe Vento. He didn't kiss politically correct, liberal ass...like so many other gutless, guilt ridden white people.

By the way, stay away from Olivieri's Steaks. They're the worst. I think he's still in Reading Terminal.

[Plunkies]

It's not like they can read the sign anyway.

[Capt.Caveman]

now we need a spicks go home sign

[Sinn Fein]

Good for Joe Vento. He didn't kiss politically correct, liberal ass...like so many other gutless, guilt ridden white people.

By the way, stay away from Olivieri's Steaks. They're the worst. I think he's still in Reading Terminal.

Oliveri's steaks is the same family as Pat's.

From Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat's_King_of_Steaks#Olivieri_family_feud)

Olivieri family feud
Pat's King of Steaks is the original shop opened by Pasquale "Pat" Olivieri and his brother, Harry. Harry's grandson, Frank, owns Pat's. Pat's grandson, Rick, owns Rick's Original Philly Steaks at Reading Terminal Market.

Pat's son, Herbert (Rick's father), expanded the business by opening franchises of Pat's King of Steaks. In the 1980's, the Olivieris split up the business. Harry and Frank Sr. kept the original location, Herbert ("King" Pat's son) opened Olivieri's Prince of Steaks in Reading Terminal Market. Herbert's son Rick renamed it "Rick's" in the mid-1990s, still using the crown logo and mentioning his grandfather, Pat Olivieri.[1]

In October 2006, Pat's sued Rick's, alleging trademark infringement, trademark dilution and unfair competition, based on the use of the crown logo and the name "Pat Olivieri".[2]

The suit was settled in August 2007. Terms were not disclosed. Frank Olivieri Jr. said he was "happy with the settlement and I'm sure my cousin Rick is as well." Rick Olivieri told the newspaper "It's an agreement we can both live with. Everybody is happy."
They might not be at the Reading Terminal for long:

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080228_Ricks_Steaks_dealt_setback_on_Reading_Ter minal_dispute.html

[DC Chick]

Here's a suboena, love your grandson Frank.

[vlade117]

I know its been awhile since the boys talked about this story, but Joey Vento won his case and may keep his signs up at Gino's;

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/19/englishonly.cheesesteaks.ap/index.html

umm..see post #1.

best cheesesteaks in philly, according to 610wip - http://www.610wip.com/pages/351421.php

Geno's and Pat's - #30 and #36

[Sinn Fein]

That's an interesting list. I love the fact they spoke the truth about Pat's.

There's a place real close to me that I haven't tried yet that is on that list (#24). I think I am gonna check it out tomorrow.

[flyerfan116]

Glad he won...Pat's is still better though

[CougarHunter]

I hate when Mexicans and Dominicans walk into where I work and start speaking Spanish to me, then act like I'm an asshole for not knowing what they're saying. They hold up the fucking line for 5 minutes because they think some bullshit piece of plastic labeled an "International Driver's License" is valid ID or that I'll believe that a laminated color photocopy of a Resident Alien ID numbered 123456789 and an expiration date of 06/07/08 is valid ID. And yes, I really have seen that ID--sometimes from 3 of them in a row who all got out of the same landscaping truck. Not only do I get the lovely gift of having to deal with the illegal immigrant who doesn't speak English and is trying to argue with me anyway, but I get to deal with the pissed off customers who were stuck behind them for 10 minutes. But I guess Geraldo was right when he said that nobody in America is inconvenienced by immigrants who can't speak English. After all, "Press 2 for Spanish" doesn't affect me at all, right?

You don't have a pair of scissors handy for just such an emergency?

[THE FEZ MAN]

That's an interesting list. I love the fact they spoke the truth about Pat's.

There's a place real close to me that I haven't tried yet that is on that list (#24). I think I am gonna check it out tomorrow.

yea, but also they forget to mention that getting to some of those places at night is a little dicey, hell going in the day is a little shady ill be in roxbrough thursday i might hit the one on henry ave i know right were it is

[NoSurviivors]

now we need a spicks go home sign

all ya need is a boat & some red paint...

http://i28.tinypic.com/34rsp4z.jpg

[Sinn Fein]

yea, but also they forget to mention that getting to some of those places at night is a little dicey, hell going in the day is a little shady ill be in roxbrough thursday i might hit the one on henry ave i know right were it is

The place I mentioned is in the realm of white folks. I got no worries. BTW, I haven't made it there yet. Maybe tomorrow.

[THE FEZ MAN]

The place I mentioned is in the realm of white folks. I got no worries. BTW, I haven't made it there yet. Maybe tomorrow.
lol, ive been to the pepper mill several times, and i guess im going to check out the one in springfield next time i cross 420, its only about 20mins from my house (10 at night)

[Sinn Fein]

How ironic it is that you live near Route 420... :cool3:

[THE FEZ MAN]

How ironic it is that you live near Route 420... :cool3:

lol;)

[Flea_Man]

I went to Taco Bell and tried to spend a $2 bill, and the Mexican cashier had no idea what it was and called the cops.

[THE FEZ MAN]

I went to Taco Bell and tried to spend a $2 bill, and the Mexican cashier had no idea what it was and called the cops.

that would only be funny if you got hooked up buy a black woman cop and thrown in lock up with a 6'6 chimp that ass fucks you