Breaking News >> U.S. Justice Department Approves Sirius-XM Merger

[nataskaos]

it's on the front page of foxnews.com.


Details still to come.

Details:

AP (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gpcaW34bTLs1hXU9zx16zSXEHrCQD8VJVPPG2)
USDOJ (http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/March/08_at_226.html)
CNN money (http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/24/news/companies/xm_sirius/?postversion=2008032415)
Fox News (http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/industries/media/article/justice-department-gives-siriusxm-merger-ok_530362_15.html)
Yahoo! (http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/080324/xm_sirius_antitrust.html)
XM's Response (http://www.xmradio.com/announcement/index.xmc)
MERGER UPDATE

XM today announced that the Department of Justice (DOJ) has approved the proposed merger with SIRIUS. XM is pleased that after a thorough review, the DOJ agrees that the entertainment marketplace will remain highly competitive and robust after our merger.

With the DOJ's decision behind us, our next and final regulatory step will be a decision from the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). Soon after FCC approval is obtained, XM and Sirius would complete the merger.

The combination of our companies will lead to more choices and better pricing for our subscribers, and result in a stronger competitor in the rapidly evolving audio entertainment market.

As we have said, no XM radio will become obsolete as a result of the merger. We have millions of radios in use, including many that are factory-installed in automobiles. After the merger, our subscribers will not need another radio to continue to receive programming like they now enjoy. The XM platform will continue to offer a full complement of programming to our millions of subscribers.

We'll communicate directly to our subscribers once the FCC has rendered its decision.

[DoucheMeister]

CNN has the story as well.

[Buds Spuckley]

it's on the front page of foxnews.com.


Details still to come.


Came across on bloomberg, I posted this earlier but cant make a new thread.

[turdfrgsn]

the supreme court will shoot this down

place ya bets, kids
place ya bets

[My Dog Fresca]

Well hopefully Ope's meeting with the enemy pays off, if the enemy works for the little doggy.

[Buds Spuckley]

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department has approved a merger of Sirius Satellite Radio Inc. with its rival, XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc.

[MobileDevice]

I don't think the Supreme Court has a say in this. It does have to clear the FCC though.

GutShotDrew

[Mikhail]

So what's the over/under on them staying on XM?

[Goober]

the supreme court will shoot this down

place ya bets, kids
place ya bets

The Supreme court does not deal with mergers.

[grexley]

I hope XM's entire customer service department gets canned.

Someone got paid off to make this deal go through.

[Hoagie]

The FCC won't block this. O&A are in pretty much screwed on XM. The first employment under Mel didn't work out so well. I don't have a lot of hope for the second go around.

[[OnA]UncleMo]

Saw a flash update on www.foxnews.com.

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/March/08_at_226.html

Here's the article, it's too long for a copy/paste. I wonder if the bbboys will be getting a raise.

[stillbornstew]

oh nooooooooooooo. fucking hell.

[SOS]

AP (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gpcaW34bTLs1hXU9zx16zSXEHrCQD8VJVPPG2)

CNN money (http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/24/news/companies/xm_sirius/?postversion=2008032415)

[Goober]

The FCC won't block this. O&A are in pretty much screwed on XM. The first employment under Mel didn't work out so well. I don't have a lot of hope for the second go around.

Your Mom's Box

[loganfield]

Time to go and fuck my mother and flush my XM down the toilet, I guess.

[Zillax0rz]

My day has just been instantly and irreversibly ruined.

[CMMatt]

Damn. Well, about fucking time they made a decision on this. Now we have to wait to hear the bbbboys commentary on this.

Christ this is going to be interesting.

[HaLLuCiN0]

DEVELOPING... XM/Sirius to be named SternRadio

hoo hoo

[My Dog Fresca]

So what's the over/under on them staying on XM?

5

[Guysdrinkingbeer]

Your Mom's Box

Crap, did that just make cringe.

I hope things go well, but I got a real bad feeling.

I not going to speculate because like Opie says, I don't know what the hell is going on. I just know that if the boys go my subs go AGAIN!

[Shitdeek]

remember when people around here were claiming there was no way in hell a merger like this would ever go through?

[Goober]

UncleMo;2518958']Saw a flash update on www.foxnews.com (http://www.foxnews.com).

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/March/08_at_226.html

Here's the article, it's too long for a copy/paste. I wonder if the bbboys will be getting a raise.

Ewwwww, they mention Howie in the official statement form the DOJ.

[Stalker2]

Getting ready to pull the trigger on my XM unit.

[mascan42]

Well, there goes that battle. Now we need to move on to Mel and the other heads of Sirius. We need to make sure they know that O&A have a huge fanbase and we won't sit still for a gagged or hamstrung show.

[pezones]

FCC still has to ok it

[Dr. Hoffman]

FCC still has to ok it

Which they will...Kevin Martin who is the FCC head has received lots of money from Mel.

[ThaDRD]

FCC still has to ok it

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/080324/xm_sirius_antitrust.html

"The deal is also being examined by the Federal Communications Commission, which is expected to follow the Justice Department's lead. The deal would combine the only two providers of satellite radio in the United States."

[watsonnostaw]

your mom's box

[CMMatt]

Which they will...Kevin Martin who is the FCC head has received lots of money from Mel.

Plus, and I don't know who said it (whether it was on a message board or actually on the show), but if one approves, then usually the other does too.

[habeasrob]

The Supreme court does not deal with mergers.

they do if there is a lawsuit

[poopiebottoms]

Now we can get less radio for more money!

[mullethead]

Well that's the way it goes. Just deal with it.

[reddog_2711]

Time to go and fuck my mother and flush my XM down the toilet, I guess.

Could you at least let me finish first? :action-sm

[Goober]

I just saw E. Lo on New York Ave. with a squeegee and a bucket.

[LiddyRules]

Well, we're boned.

[jimmyjimjimz]

If both companies are supposedly merging, why are they saying that Sirius is buying out XM? Is that really what a merger is?

[CMMatt]

I just saw E. Lo on New York Ave. with a squeegee and a bucket.


And Don Wickland is picking up trash in front of XM HQ.....oh wait, I guess some things will never change :D

Oh, yeah lib lib

[loganfield]

Could you at least let me finish first? :action-sm

Have at her....:haha7:

[Vyce]

Yay. I, the consumer, get to get fucked over. Thanks, DOJ.

Proof that if you line enough pockets, you can do anything in this country.

[Goober]

I say we fill Mel Karmazan email inbox with nothing but diseased and infected cock pictures.

Linger dup dup

[seeinred]

If both companies are supposedly merging, why are they saying that Sirius is buying out XM? Is that really what a merger is?

Because Sirius is buying out XM :action-sm

They're the controlling company in this "merger" just like Daimler-Benz and Chrysler Corp merged. The joke was,
"How do you pronounce DaimlerChrysler?"
"Daimler - The Chrysler is silent"

Hilarious, I know.

[LiddyRules]

Yay. I, the consumer, get to get fucked over. Thanks, DOJ.

Proof that if you line enough pockets, you can do anything in this country. But we wrote letters! The politicians should care what we the people think. :haha7:

This will pretty much assure O+A out of mornings until Howie stops the chatter.

[Bacon]

remember when people around here were claiming there was no way in hell a merger like this would ever go through?

Yeah, it's sort of like when people around here and O&A themselves would talk about how XM is always kicking Sirus' ass and how they had the best car deals, etc. Now Sirius is the dominant company in the merger between the two.

I hope O&A stay on satellite, because I don't really enjoy the FM portion all that much.

[CJJames]

If both companies are supposedly merging, why are they saying that Sirius is buying out XM? Is that really what a merger is?

In this case, yes. Sirius has the cash on hand to pull it off, so XM becomes part of Sirius.

Lee Abrams was smart-got off two weeks ago just before the boat sank. E-Lo hopefully kept the resume updated, because the jobs that are lost will come from the XM side. Also, Mel will now be O+A's boss, if they stick to the business model they submitted as part of the merger.

I own stock in both companies, yet I didn't want this to happen. Nothing good comes of it creatively. :arrrh:

[jimmyjimjimz]

Because Sirius is buying out XM :action-sm

They're the controlling company in this "merger" just like Daimler-Benz and Chrysler Corp merged. The joke was,
"How do you pronounce DaimlerChrysler?"
"Daimler - The Chrysler is silent"

Hilarious, I know.


How is Sirius the controlling company? Isn't XM worth more? I know XM's stock is worth more.

[vadersnutz]

good luck,bro

[Goober]

It is being reported that they will rename "The Virus" to Howard 202.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/24/news/companies/xm_sirius/?postversion=2008032415 (http://www.meatspin.com)

[Trainable J]

I hope O&A stay on satilite, because I don't really enjoy the FM portion all that much.


At least you'll get an FM portion!

[cigarsandscotch]

FCC still has to ok it

I have no douby they will rubber stamp it. It's as good as done. I hope Opie hurries up and plays the rest of the Spuds Buckley audio this week. I really want to hear it before the big inevitable screw job happens.

[ChestersLiver]

It is being reported that they will rename "The Virus" to Howard 202.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/24/news/companies/xm_sirius/?postversion=2008032415 (http://www.meatspin.com)


Hoo hoo, I invented virus's. Tell 'em Fred!

[Limbeck]

we should have known this was gonna happen. Anything Opie roots for always turns against him.

[TJLamb0518]

It is being reported that they will rename "The Virus" to Howard 202.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/24/news/companies/xm_sirius/?postversion=2008032415


Wow...excellent find. I can't beleive they're already making these announcements.


They must know the boys are on (temporary) vacation...

[seeinred]

How is Sirius the controlling company? Isn't XM worth more? I know XM's stock is worth more.

See what CJJames said about it below.

In this case, yes. Sirius has the cash on hand to pull it off, so XM becomes part of Sirius.

Lee Abrams was smart-got off two weeks ago just before the boat sank. E-Lo hopefully kept the resume updated, because the jobs that are lost will come from the XM side. Also, Mel will now be O+A's boss, if they stick to the business model they submitted as part of the merger.

I own stock in both companies, yet I didn't want this to happen. Nothing good comes of it creatively. :arrrh:

[Bacon]

At least you'll get an FM portion!

Isn't their CBS deal ending soon...? Wonder if they will resign with O&A cause I know their ratings haven't been THAT great.

[cokelogic]

I just want to say this before I can't say it anymore, "Howard Stern". :action-sm


I miss XM.

[Limbeck]

If both companies are supposedly merging, why are they saying that Sirius is buying out XM? Is that really what a merger is?

no thats called an acquisition.

[Bigdaddydongnut]

At least you'll get an FM portion!

Not if you live in Washington state

[Mr.Monster Rain]

This is why the boys are not allowed to go on vacation... Time for Gregorio to do the show that ruins them once and for all (after we hear the rest of the spuds audio of course)

[turdfrgsn]

I don't think the Supreme Court has a say in this. It does have to clear the FCC though.

GutShotDrew

The Supreme court does not deal with mergers.

when the inevitable lawsuit occurs, and i'm sure it's already been filed, the supreme court will most definitely rule on it
and they'll quash it

it's an illegal monopoly, plain and simple, regardless of how much the administration and its campaign donors at sirius and xm wish it wasn't

[Buds Spuckley]

Why does everyone see this as a bad thing, Mel is a businessman if O & A have a fan base and generate revenue he will keep them. Hell they might keep Howard in the AM and have O&A in drive time. That will crush terrestrial radio.

Satellite is in competition with terrestrial, Howard isnt in competition with O&A anymore.

Lets face it, Howard wants the boys to do well because he will make more money if they are successful.

[Vyce]

It is being reported that they will rename "The Virus" to Howard 202.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/24/news/companies/xm_sirius/?postversion=2008032415 (http://www.meatspin.com)

You magnificient bastard.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Why does everyone see this as a bad thing, Mel is a businessman if O & A have a fan base and generate revenue he will keep them. Hell they might keep Howard in the AM and have O&A in drive time. That will crush terrestrial radio.

Satellite is in competition with terrestrial, Howard isnt in competition with O&A anymore.

Lets face it, Howard wants the boys to do well because he will make more money if they are successful.

O&A will stay on mornings on XM and CBS. To everything else you said: :clap::clap::clap:

[mrb218]

The US Supreme Court can't just rule on it. A case has to be filed in federal court, then appealed to the circuit court, then appealed to the Supreme Court. It would take at least a year; that's best case scenario. Its also not "clearly" an illegal monopoly. Not trying to be a dick or anything. Why not Hoo-Hoo in AM and O & A afternoons? Surely, there's room enough for both. I can't imagine Mel would just write off all O & A subs for the sake of Howie. I agree with Buds. Just in case: "Your mom's box."

[predators1998]

Why does everyone see this as a bad thing, Mel is a businessman if O & A have a fan base and generate revenue he will keep them. Hell they might keep Howard in the AM and have O&A in drive time. That will crush terrestrial radio.

Satellite is in competition with terrestrial, Howard isnt in competition with O&A anymore.

Lets face it, Howard wants the boys to do well because he will make more money if they are successful.

Fuck Howard in his fuck-hole.

[Vyce]

Why does everyone see this as a bad thing, Mel is a businessman if O & A have a fan base and generate revenue he will keep them. Hell they might keep Howard in the AM and have O&A in drive time. That will crush terrestrial radio.

Satellite is in competition with terrestrial, Howard isnt in competition with O&A anymore.

Lets face it, Howard wants the boys to do well because he will make more money if they are successful.

Here's an idea - leave O&A where they are.

Since Howard isn't in "competition" with them anymore, leave them on in the morning time slot, and let the listeners decide which show they'd rather tune in.

I know my pick.

Cause after all, since they're not in competition, since this is satellite, and ratings don't count (only subs), who gives a shit, right?

[Hog's Big Ben]

Why not Hoo-Hoo in AM and O & A afternoons?

Because that doesn't mesh with the CBS deal, and they don't want to do afternoons.

Chirst alfuckingmighty, enough with giving Howard this "power" to say where O&A go.

They will stay on XM202 after the merger. There isn't going to be any sort of rebranding whatosoever for YEARS!

[Vyce]

The US Supreme Court can't just rule on it. A case has to be filed in federal court, then appealed to the circuit court, then appealed to the Supreme Court. It would take at least a year; that's best case scenario. Its also not "clearly" an illegal monopoly. Not trying to be a dick or anything. Why not Hoo-Hoo in AM and O & A afternoons? Surely, there's room enough for both. I can't imagine Mel would just write off all O & A subs for the sake of Howie. I agree with Buds. Just in case: "Your mom's box."

Well, that's at least the second NEW wackbagger giving a "hey, O&A in afternoons would be swell, right fellas?" argument.

Forgive me for my suspicions, but I haz them.

[ChuckiesChalupa]

I thought it was a merger...My understanding of a merger is when two companies come together as one yet althought that is what is gonna happen, it seems as though Sirrius is the one who is going to do a buy out!

And on CNN Headline if ya saw the report, they simply said "You will now be able to get Howard Stern and ------------>OPRAH<------------------ No mention of O And A or Ron And Fez...

They did say prices will go down and you can get Ala Cart chouces if ya want ...I have Sirrius with my Dish Network, and am not too impressed, but It would be nice to say get rid of all the stupid Rap, R&B channels, and the stupid CUNTry channels....

However if there is no 202 there really is no point at all...I as mentioned have 56K so streaming wouldnt even matter.......Any word at all on whether or not 202 will be affected or not?

[KevRules]

It's about time they approved this merger. :clap:

XM was going to go out of business without it.
Sirius buying XM is the best thing to happen for these two companies and for anyone who owns XM. Can't listen to all of the great music on XM if they are out of business.

It will suck if O & A get fired though. But they could always do a podcast or internet radio show. :action-sm

[Sinn Fein]

Ugh... It's almost expected.

Here's hoping that the FCC shoots it down.

[Goblin]

Well that's the way it goes. Just deal with it.

Eat it troll.

[Bill Lehecka]

This Merger won't become official for more than a year if there is a Supreme Court case filed... So let's all hold your britches.

[ShavedLebaneseBear]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/j7wb/over_johnny.jpg

[Goblin]

New Wackbagger = fag

[reddog_2711]

This will pretty much assure O+A out of mornings until Howie stops the chatter.

Then he'll just have to stop chattering.......lock and load people, lock and load.

[Arch Stanton]

The FCC won't block this. O&A are in pretty much screwed on XM. The first employment under Mel didn't work out so well. I don't have a lot of hope for the second go around.

Yup, saw on here that FCC follows Justice Dept lead on these things.

[Buds Spuckley]

Here's an idea - leave O&A where they are.

Since Howard isn't in "competition" with them anymore, leave them on in the morning time slot, and let the listeners decide which show they'd rather tune in.

I know my pick.

Cause after all, since they're not in competition, since this is satellite, and ratings don't count (only subs), who gives a shit, right?


I dont see why the hostility, all I was saying is that Mel isnt going to toss them away like many other people have posted.

Its about REVENUE, Mel would put on anyone if it got subs and revenue to the company. He and Howard both have stock options that will cause them to make a fortune if the stock price rises.

Stock rises through subs and revenue such as advertising. You can get more revenue by having 2 successful shows one in morning and one in drive instead of splintering audience with 2 morning shows.

Howard, Ron and Fez then O&A, I would never change the channel.

[whatthefuck]

It is being reported that they will rename "The Virus" to Howard 202.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/24/news/companies/xm_sirius/?postversion=2008032415 (http://www.meatspin.com)

How many times will this work on me?

[NightStalker3]

So much for my 1 year XM renewal that hit today, gonna have to change that shit to month to month....Fuck first my XBOX 360 RROD's Saturday and now this...

[turdfrgsn]

The US Supreme Court can't just rule on it. A case has to be filed in federal court, then appealed to the circuit court, then appealed to the Supreme Court. It would take at least a year; that's best case scenario. Its also not "clearly" an illegal monopoly. Not trying to be a dick or anything. Why not Hoo-Hoo in AM and O & A afternoons? Surely, there's room enough for both. I can't imagine Mel would just write off all O & A subs for the sake of Howie. I agree with Buds. Just in case: "Your mom's box."

i know you're not being a dick...i mean, at least not about this

however, if you think terrestrial radio (clear channel, the nat'l broadcasters assn) won't file a suit against this, i've got some land in southern louisiana i'd be happy to sell you, and these are strictly friends prices, i assure you

once the suit is filed, the court will put a hold on the merger until it hears the case, regardless, win or lose, it will be appealed until it hits the supreme court level, and the merger will be on hold the entire time
the court will reject the merger
it's an unfair monopoly

[Bacon]

I would think that Bubba would be let go before O&A, although he just signed on for another year recently.

[Jimmy Tide]

It's definitely frustrating reading a bunch of posts written by idiots to this board about a topic they know nothing about. The merger is good for both companies. XM was going to die sooner than later and Sirius was going to die as well...just later because they have more liquid assets than XM does (this is also why Sirius will be running the show after the "merger."). The stock price doesn't matter at all. Enron stock was worth a shitload in their heyday, but they had no assets (just an extreme example.) Anyhow, I am a little worried about the boys although I'm hoping Mel will use his business sense and not his heart to make sure O&A stay on the satellite airwaves.

You shitdicks stink on ice.

[Goblin]

http://www.xmsiriusmonopoly.org/

Might as well fight it to the end.

[Newmania]

Now Fezzie can stay home full time.

[TheTruth]

The merged company minus XM 202 is back to being Sirius.

Whoopie they will have baseball and indy car racing

[Arch Stanton]

http://www.xmsiriusmonopoly.org/

Might as well fight it to the end.

Meatspin? At a time like this? :action-sm

[whatthefuck]

The merged company minus XM 202 is back to being Sirius.

Whoopie they will have baseball and indy car racing

Don't forget Oprah!

[Buds Spuckley]

It's definitely frustrating reading a bunch of posts written by idiots to this board about a topic they know nothing about. The merger is good for both companies. XM was going to die sooner than later and Sirius was going to die as well...just later because they have more liquid assets than XM does (this is also why Sirius will be running the show after the "merger."). The stock price doesn't matter at all. Enron stock was worth a shitload in their heyday, but they had no assets (just an extreme example.) Anyhow, I am a little worried about the boys although I'm hoping Mel will use his business sense and not his heart to make sure O&A stay on the satellite airwaves.

You shitdicks stink on ice.

Tell that to Howard and Mel, they have options that allow them to purchase the shares at a set price. Once the shares are adjusted and the options are adjusted they stand to make a ton if the shares rise.

Bringing Enron up shows you have no knowledge of the market, that was rampant fraud and the employees who had options/stock in their retirement plans were the biggest losers in their scam.

[ShavedLebaneseBear]

It's definitely frustrating reading a bunch of posts written by idiots to this board about a topic they know nothing about. The merger is good for both companies. XM was going to die sooner than later and Sirius was going to die as well...just later because they have more liquid assets than XM does (this is also why Sirius will be running the show after the "merger."). The stock price doesn't matter at all. Enron stock was worth a shitload in their heyday, but they had no assets (just an extreme example.) Anyhow, I am a little worried about the boys although I'm hoping Mel will use his business sense and not his heart to make sure O&A stay on the satellite airwaves.

You shitdicks stink on ice.

Yea, except you seem to be forgetting one thing.
Most people on this board DO NOT CARE about XM if O&A are not on it.

[iSpeakEloquent]

and the number 2 reason to have xm on long island, hockey

[Patrick B.]

No love for the Sam & Sam or Black Phillip Show?

Or better yet, stay tuned for "Bitch Management with Patrice Oneal and Robin Quivers"

[TheTruth]

But a post merger O&A still on XM would mean a return of Jim Breuer

[SaltyDelights]

U.S. Justice Department Approves Sirius-XM MergerDoomed. Fucking doomed.

[Goblin]

Meatspin? At a time like this? :action-sm


Mudfall.com is probably more appropriate. ;)

[Goober]

Or better yet, stay tuned for "Bitch Management with Patrice Oneal and Robin Quivers"

I would actually like to hear that. I have a great deal of faith in Patrice.

[PMB917]

No really this is a good thing...everything is gonna be fine for the bbboys....The merger isn't gonna change how they will talk about Howard...really, it wont.....Life's gonna be grand....Now they're gonna be able to do all the things they were told they could not do when it would have put the merger in jeopardy. Seriously....everythings gonna be OK.

[Vyce]

I dont see why the hostility, all I was saying is that Mel isnt going to toss them away like many other people have posted.

Its about REVENUE, Mel would put on anyone if it got subs and revenue to the company. He and Howard both have stock options that will cause them to make a fortune if the stock price rises.

Stock rises through subs and revenue such as advertising. You can get more revenue by having 2 successful shows one in morning and one in drive instead of splintering audience with 2 morning shows.

Howard, Ron and Fez then O&A, I would never change the channel.

There is no reason for them to be moved to afternoons.

None.

No reason to change 202 whatsoever.

If, as YOU say, there's no competition here, what's the fucking purpose behind moving their time slot? Other than to give Howie his way again.

Furthermore, you're ignoring the fact that O&A are replayed in the afternoons. You can listen to Howard in the morning IF that is your choice, and listen to the O&A replay after R&F.

Basically, you've utterly failed to make your case as to why they should be moved.

[seeinred]

But a post merger O&A still on XM would mean a return of Jim Breuer
I was thinking that too.

Maybe this merger will be awesome and O&A will be better than ever because of it. Maybe they'll be the saviors of the newly merged company and garner all sorts of adulation from people all over the country and become even bigger superstars than they already are.

Maybe?

[Vyce]

But a post merger O&A still on XM would mean a return of Jim Breuer

Oh. Yay.

Cause THAT's totally worth it.

[CMMatt]

But a post merger O&A still on XM would mean a return of Jim Breuer


We can only hope :)

[Pearce]

I hope it happens.So maybe the boys will get held down by Howie and Mel, fuck it. It'll be interesting.

[stillbornstew]

i know you're not being a dick...i mean, at least not about this

however, if you think terrestrial radio (clear channel, the nat'l broadcasters assn) won't file a suit against this, i've got some land in southern louisiana i'd be happy to sell you, and these are strictly friends prices, i assure you

once the suit is filed, the court will put a hold on the merger until it hears the case, regardless, win or lose, it will be appealed until it hits the supreme court level, and the merger will be on hold the entire time
the court will reject the merger
it's an unfair monopoly

god i hope so.

[TheTruth]

Howard, Ron and Fez then O&A, I would never change the channel.

I would change the channel during the time Howard was on.

Isn't part of the deal with the merger that Mel gets the CEO title, but XM gets 1 extra member on the Board of Directors, meaning Mel can't do shit.

[Bill Lehecka]

Here's a fun Toss Up:

Which will happen first, the end of Howie's contract, or the official XM/Sirius Merger?

[whatthefuck]

Mels not dumb.... He knows Howard's done in three years and will need a marquee name.


I'll bet you all that before this is all done HOo HoO and the Bbboys will be sucking each others little peeeeenases.

[jimmyjimjimz]

If O&A are still under contract, why would they be let go if the merger goes through? Wouldn't Mel be forced to keep them till their contract is up?

[Jalapeno-Juice]

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4413/charliesighfy9.jpg

[Sidekick Dave]

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[mullethead]

Eat it troll.


Get a life you loser. Do you have any business acumen whatsoever? With the way XM was hemorrhaging cash, it was only a matter of time before the company would be bankrupt. So this merger was a necessary evil. So, the show may change. Suck it up and deal with it. It's only a radio show.

[ChuckiesChalupa]

Well, that's at least the second NEW wackbagger giving a "hey, O&A in afternoons would be swell, right fellas?" argument.

Forgive me for my suspicions, but I haz them.

I am really glad people are willing to accept that because Howard (Naht Fuuuhny) Stern may push O and A into an afternnon slot so they are the sat. radio Bornstien equals?!?!?!?!?! Not to mention when the fuck would Ron And Fez Be on? Do we as fans of channel 202 as a whole just forget about them?
I say leave 202 alone...If you have XM and you got it because of 202, then the fact that howard is on as well shouldnt really matter to you now should it?

I wont pay for XM anymore if they do anything shitty to 202...I was told when I asked XM about the merger last year that the only change that would happen, would be that you would also get Sirrius channels...that would be all...

[PartyRock24]

I honestly think that the boys will be safe when the merger goes through. Why would Mel want to get rid of them when A. They would have to deal with us. B. They bring in money.
Yes they dont have a good past but all things aside i really think/hope that they will be okay in the end.

[Goober]

Fuck the Radio War.... The big change will have O&A going back on as a 'Al a Carte' channel with no chance of gaining new or casual listeners, with the exception of us douche bags.

[Goblin]

Get a life you loser. Do you have any business acumen whatsoever? With the way XM was hemorrhaging cash, it was only a matter of time before the company would be bankrupt. So this merger was a necessary evil. So, the show may change. Suck it up and deal with it. It's only a radio show.


Blow me dopey fuckface. Look up the DirecTV / Dish merger that was shot down by the Justice Dept. Now both companies are doing fine. Same shit different day ::hammer:

[Jabber]

Are you all kidding me? Sirius ain't the Devil. Howard did not fire O&A. Mel was pressured BY THE FCC. There was no conspiracy. O&A fucked up, got fired. Did the FCC hire them? Did "free radio" hire them? Fuck no. SAT. RADIO DID! The NAB wants to stop ALL Sat. radio.
Listen to O&A on XM. Listen to O&A on FM?
Rest my case.

[reddog_2711]

I would change the channel during the time Howard was on.

I'd unplug the whole radio during that time.....just to be safe

[vcdburn]

your mom's box

Linger...Page One

We should just take a wait and see approach. Mel has already said he would only invite HooHoo along if he would reup at less money. HooHoo won't do that, he's ready for the retirement home. OandA still have at least 1 or 2 years left in them. ;)

[Goblin]

Are you all kidding me? Sirius ain't the Devil. Howard did not fire O&A. Mel was pressured BY THE FCC. There was no conspiracy. O&A fucked up, got fired. Did the FCC hire them? Did "free radio" hire them? Fuck no. SAT. RADIO DID! The NAB wants to stop ALL Sat. radio.
Listen to O&A on XM. Listen to O&A on FM?
Rest my case.


Go back to SFN & bring mullethead with you.

[ChuckiesChalupa]

Suck it up and deal with it. It's only a radio show.

Ummmmm you are also on one of the shows MSG. Boards saying "It's only a radio show".....

To some of us it's more than a radio show...We enjoy it like one would a good steak...Only the steak is riddled with Cunts and Poopie upper lips...

WE LOVE OUR 202!! So why don't you suck it up and realize that fans care about the channel...Lot's of us only got XM for 202 the rest of the channels were just a bonus!

:arrrh:

[mullethead]

Blow me dopey fuckface. Look up the DirecTV / Dish merger that was shot down by the Justice Dept. Now both companies are doing fine. Same shit different day ::hammer:

It's hardly the same thing. DirecTV and Dish Network were both financially viable entities at the time of the proposed merger. Both companies were actually making money, quite unlike both satellite companies, my friend.

[Thelateshowkid]

I don't know too much about the situation, but I think the worst thing to come of it is sub costs will go up. I don't see how they can can (el oh el) the boys, even if the PD doesn't like them. Their fan base is huge for a sattelite show. Maybe if this happened during the suspension last summer, but I really don't see it happening now.

[ShavedLebaneseBear]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/j7wb/kenny.jpg

[Jabber]

SFN?
Wow, you are a douchbag.
Wipe the cum off your chin, take a deep breath.
Now Repeat,

There are no alliens
We landed on the moon
Howard and Mel are not part of a conspiracy to destroy O&A

[75.1Glide]

The Muzzle gets strapped back on.......No more Howie/Mel bashing, or the shit can for the boys.

[PartyRock24]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/j7wb/kenny.jpg

:haha7::haha7::haha7::haha7::clap::clap:

[del griffith]

opie said ant got a big raise recently....from who? mowhaaaahaaahaa....

can we hear that DaimlerChrysler joke again?

[bb1mobile]

Oh noes!

The sky is falling!
The sky is falling!

Meh, maybe not. This is a long way from
being completed. I'll wait for some better
info before I worry too much about it.

[iridium130]

Linger...Page One

We should just take a wait and see approach. Mel has already said he would only invite HooHoo along if he would reup at less money. HooHoo won't do that, he's ready for the retirement home. OandA still have at least 1 or 2 years left in them. ;)


but O&A are only in their late 20s/early 30s :action-sm

[MobileDevice]

Sen. Kohl has issued a statement saying that he is "very disappointed DOJ didn't block XM-Sirius merger"

Senator Kohl owns the Milwaukee Bucks

But it turns out that the Milwaukee Bucks have worked out a deal with WTMJ-AM (620) to sell advertising for when their games air.

Previously the Bucks and WTMJ shared that revenue, but with the 2007-2008 season, the Milwaukee Bucks will assume full responsibility for all their broadcast advertising sales.

In short, Senator Kohl directly earns revenue from Bucks broadcasts on WTMJ.

Sirius is the exclusive satellite radio broadcaster of the NBA. If XM and Sirius merge, then XM's 8 million subscribers can have access to these NBA games. And a this could put the amount of revenue that Senator Kohl and his company can generate, at risk.



Quite the conflict of interest, huh.


GutShotDrew

[Thelateshowkid]

SFN?
Wow, you are a douchbag.
Wipe the cum off your chin, take a deep breath.
Now Repeat,

There are no alliens
We landed on the moon
Howard and Mel are not part of a conspiracy to destroy O&A

To be honest I agree. If Mel fired them because of a grudge he may or may not have, it could really hurt the company. There's no way he takes that risk. If he ends up being the PD for the combined company, that's a huge position in a market that's been losing huge amounts of money.

[Vyce]

I honestly think that the boys will be safe when the merger goes through. Why would Mel want to get rid of them when A. They would have to deal with us. B. They bring in money.
Yes they dont have a good past but all things aside i really think/hope that they will be okay in the end.

It's not about whether they'll get fired.

It's about whether 202 and their show are going to get fucked with.

O&A getting fired is unrealistic. Their show & channel being forced to change for no good fucking reason is not.

[Goblin]

It's hardly the same thing. DirecTV and Dish Network were both financially viable entities at the time of the proposed merger. Both companies were actually making money, quite unlike both satellite companies, my friend.

Pulling fact out of your ass eh?

In reality DirecTV was hurting big time when the merger was shot down.


Hughes Electronics Corp. reported a net loss of $105.3 million (7 cents per diluted share) for the first quarter ended March 31, down from a net loss of $81.9 million (6 cents) in the like year earlier-quarter. First quarter revenues were $1.89 billion up from $1.7 billion in the first quarter of 2000. But revenues were down more than $300 million from the fourth quarter of 2000. Hughes' stock, which reached a 52-week high of $38 in October, ended trading at $20.45 on June 21, having lost about one-fifth of its value since January.

[habeasrob]

The worst thing about O&A possibly being ousted following a merger is that the new combined company may give East Side Dave his own show.

[LiddyRules]

There is no reason for them to be moved to afternoons.

None. The reason is that it makes no sense to have the only two big shows on your platform competing against one another in the exact same time slot. Yes they replay in the afternoon but live programming will probably get more people interested. Especially when one has, in the past, proven they can work afternoons before.

[kevtv]

anyone who thinks this is bad for o and a is a panicky pete.

sorry for the harsh name-calling.

[kevtv]

The reason is that it makes no sense to have the only two big shows on your platform competing against one another in the exact same time slot. Yes they replay in the afternoon but live programming will probably get more people interested. Especially when one has, in the past, proven they can work afternoons before.

disagree. why displace the number of o and a listeners at this stage in the game? i think changing ANYTHING in terms of content, format, times, etc. can be disastrous. This merger needs to leave things alone and work on expanding the business, not melding the two. leave things be.

[reddog_2711]

OandA still have at least 1 or 2 years left in them. ;)

Perhaps more than that

[PartyRock24]

Even though it got the "go ahead" we all saw how long it took for them to get this thing passed.

[FellowTraveler]

Are you all kidding me? Sirius ain't the Devil. Howard did not fire O&A. Mel was pressured BY THE FCC. There was no conspiracy. O&A fucked up, got fired. Did the FCC hire them? Did "free radio" hire them? Fuck no. SAT. RADIO DID! The NAB wants to stop ALL Sat. radio.
Listen to O&A on XM. Listen to O&A on FM?
Rest my case.

Listen shitdick...O&A knew that they were fucked. It is not about Mel firing them...it is about Mel having wrinkled HooHoo cock in his ass 24/7. I could give two fucks about hearing a show that he admitted that he could give a shit about. Look at the facts. Mel already said that HooHoo is the crown jewel of Sirius. It is about the fact that I don't like the idea that someone who held the boys down once will be in charge of them again.

[Scuba Steve]

wow this is so creative look at what the stupid stern zombies have started on that other site.


http://www.***************.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=348938

fuck the zombies and hoo hoo. I wish they would all die. Oh and fuck any trolls in this thread at well.

[Jabber]

To be honest I agree. If Mel fired them because of a grudge he may or may not have, it could really hurt the company. There's no way he takes that risk. If he ends up being the PD for the combined company, that's a huge position in a market that's been losing huge amounts of money.

The business of business is bisiness.

[ChuckiesChalupa]

The reason is that it makes no sense to have the only two big shows on your platform competing against one another in the exact same time slot. Yes they replay in the afternoon but live programming will probably get more people interested. Especially when one has, in the past, proven they can work afternoons before.

I think his point was that people who are O and A fans are O And A fans...People that are Howard Fans are Howard fans...

Either way everyone seems to keep forgetting about Ron And Fez...We all know Ron isnt gonna get up to do a morning show...They got booted off of FM so they would just be gone? And thats suppose to be ok with everyone....

Either way Howard and O And A if both on at the same time would more than likely run shit in the morning over FM...

But then again if both companies were suffering as bad as everyone is claiming, how would combining both wothout messing with prices really help?? Doesn't make sense... If people havent goten either one or kept thiers active that thier car or truck came with...I just don't think a merger would somehow matter to them....

Oh well we will see....

[Mother Shucker]

Booooooo......

[Goober]

wow this is so creative look at what the stupid stern zombies have started on that other site.


http://www.***************.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=348938

fuck the zombies and hoo hoo. I wish they would all die. Oh and fuck any trolls in this thread at well.

This made me laugh, I have to admit it.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/spcdemon/dopieandfegwatermelon.gif

[Jabber]

Listen shitdick...O&A knew that they were fucked. It is not about Mel firing them...it is about Mel having wrinkled HooHoo cock in his ass 24/7. I could give two fucks about hearing a show that he admitted that he could give a shit about. Look at the facts. Mel already said that HooHoo is the crown jewel of Sirius. It is about the fact that I don't like the idea that someone who held the boys down once will be in charge of them again.

Wow,
Yes Sirius crown jewel is Howard. As much as people hate to admit it. But its not about O&A Howard or Mel. It is, was and always be about cash.
Mel also told Howard, he would give him a contract extention AT A LOWER scale then he has now. So hows that "liking his cock".

Really, do you belive that there is a conspircy against The Boys?
Do you belive the Holacost did not happen?
How about area 51?
Are the Jews really using the Blacks as mussle?

What a douche.

[LiddyRules]

I think his point was that people who are O and A fans are O And A fans...People that are Howard Fans are Howard fans... But there are fans of both. And potential fans of both. Part of the fun of talk radio is the ability to contribute to the show. And advertisers probably pay more for ads during "live" content than during repeats (I'm assuming, I don't know this for sure).

[boardsofcanada]

eh , ill wait a while to see how it pans out.

I'm sure O&A are overplaying their grudge with Mel. He is a jew i mean businessman... they have no soul...All they see is money and numbers.

Wonder what this means for ron & dave

[DrunkJoeNamath]

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/24/news/companies/xm_sirius/index.htm?postversion=2008032415

If there is a silver lining to all this, at least the boys are mentioned in the second paragraph.

[Jabber]

WHEN FM GOES DOWN THE TOILET, WE ALL WIN.
It was testical radio that almost destroyed O&A.
Not the Sirius Jews.
For Christs sake.

[Vyce]

Wow,
Really, do you belive that there is a conspircy against The Boys?


Your argument would actually be valid if not for two important facts.

1.) Mel (and Howard) already have a well documented history of fucking over O&A.

2.) This was done back when O&A, and Stern, worked for the SAME company, i.e., worked FOR Mel.

So let me get this straight.

You want to roll your eyes and mock others for what you perceive as a "conspiracy theory".

And I tell you this: Mel fucked over O&A years ago, back when it was THEN "all about the cash".

So you tell me why he wouldn't do it again. Since he did it before, when O&A were making him money THEN too.

[LiddyRules]

WHEN FM GOES DOWN THE TOILET, WE ALL WIN.
It was testical radio that almost destroyed O&A.
Not the Sirius Jews.
For Christs sake. The satellite will fall from the sky before FM officially dies.

And I tell you this: Mel fucked over O&A years ago, back when it was THEN "all about the cash". Because O+A weren't big money makers back during WNEW whereas now in 2008 they're bringing in billions apparently unlike in 2002 when they had...nothing? (I think people here like to overstate O+A's power/marketability.)

[Jabber]

Your argument would actually be valid if not for two important facts.

1.) Mel (and Howard) already have a well documented history of fucking over O&A.

2.) This was done back when O&A, and Stern, worked for the SAME company, i.e., worked FOR Mel.

So let me get this straight.

You want to roll your eyes and mock others for what you perceive as a "conspiracy theory".

And I tell you this: Mel fucked over O&A years ago, back when it was THEN "all about the cash".

So you tell me why he wouldn't do it again. Since he did it before, when O&A were making him money THEN too.

And I tell you this: Mel fucked over O&A years ago, back when it was THEN "all about the cash".


Stern was making a Shit Load more then O&A for Mel. So yeah, It was cash.
Sat. is a different animal, If your to much of a cock-tooth to tell the differance, kill yourself now before you reprduce.

[beantown]

He is a jew i mean businessman...
thats redundant
http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/24/news/companies/xm_sirius/index.htm?postversion=2008032415

If there is a silver lining to all this, at least the boys are mentioned in the second paragraph.
but howie is on the front page

www.cnn.com

[WOWBrian]

ok guys. well if the boys get fucked twice by mel, it is our duty as pests to retaliate......also cuz it'll be our final battle muahahahahahaha

[ShavedLebaneseBear]

This made me laugh, I have to admit it.

That whole site is laughable.

[Jabber]

You want to roll your eyes and mock others for what you perceive as a "conspiracy theory".

And I tell you this: Mel fucked over O&A years ago, back when it was THEN "all about the cash".

So you tell me why he wouldn't do it again. Since he did it before, when O&A were making him money THEN too.


Shit,
I ain't rolling my eyes, I just don't like purple Kool-Aid.

Aids HUH HUH

[LiddyRules]

And I tell you this: Mel fucked over O&A years ago, back when it was THEN "all about the cash".


Stern was making a Shit Load more then O&A for Mel. So yeah, It was cash.
Sat. is a different animal, If your to much of a cock-tooth to tell the differance, kill yourself now before you reprduce.

You want to roll your eyes and mock others for what you perceive as a "conspiracy theory".

And I tell you this: Mel fucked over O&A years ago, back when it was THEN "all about the cash".

So you tell me why he wouldn't do it again. Since he did it before, when O&A were making him money THEN too.


Shit,
I ain't rolling my eyes, I just don't like purple Kool-Aid.

Aids HUH HUH

http://www.evangelicalright.com/pulp_fiction_sam.gif
English Motherfucker. Do You Type It?

[PartyRock24]

You want to roll your eyes and mock others for what you perceive as a "conspiracy theory".

And I tell you this: Mel fucked over O&A years ago, back when it was THEN "all about the cash".

So you tell me why he wouldn't do it again. Since he did it before, when O&A were making him money THEN too.


Shit,
I ain't rolling my eyes, I just don't like purple Kool-Aid.

Aids HUH HUH

Mel will not fuck over O&A. If he is smart he wont. Theres no reason for him to other then if Howard gets involved or if something gets really fucked up.
Mel will keep O&A because they bring in money, Mel is a bussiness man and his goal is to make all of this work. So he will keep O&A in the line up.

[Jabber]

I have just found out that the only reason for the Sirius and XM merger is that Mel and Howard wanted to fuck over O&A again.
GIVE ME A FUCKIN BREAK.

You all will be happy when you are listing to your NFL team, With your hometown anouncers, five states away.

[WOWBrian]

i have a theory that no matter where the boys are that they can't stay there for more than four years. oh and look at the year. we're comin up on 4 years at XM and by the time the merger happens, we'll have hit four years.

[Kris_LTRMa]

But a post merger O&A still on XM would mean a return of Jim Breuer

Let me call XM right now and renew my subs << say that with all the sarcasm you can muster

[LiddyRules]

I have just found out that the only reason for the Sirius and XM merger is that Mel and Howard wanted to fuck over O&A again.
GIVE ME A FUCKIN BREAK. We're not saying that was the reason. We're saying that will be the fallout.

You all will be happy when you are listing to your NFL team, With your hometown anouncers, five states away. I don't like football.

[WOWBrian]

"Mel will not fuck over O&A. If he is smart he wont. Theres no reason for him to other then if Howard gets involved or if something gets really fucked up.
Mel will keep O&A because they bring in money, Mel is a bussiness man and his goal is to make all of this work. So he will keep O&A in the line up."


you know that if he tries to keep them from talkin about howard that they're walkin, right? i wouldnt even fuckin blame em.

[LiddyRules]

you know that if he tries to keep them from talkin about howard that they're walkin, right? I doubt it.

[Jabber]

English Motherfucker. Do You Type It?


That is such a great comeback. English, Its so current eventish. I cant wait to tell the boys at work about that one, boy, they will surley get a kick outta that one.

[PartyRock24]

I have just found out that the only reason for the Sirius and XM merger is that Mel and Howard wanted to fuck over O&A again.
GIVE ME A FUCKIN BREAK.

You all will be happy when you are listing to your NFL team, With your hometown anouncers, five states away.

No i wont be happy if im listening to my NFL team, with their hometown announcers. I'd rather listen to the Yankees then listen to my favorite NFL team.
If O&A are still on then yea i'll listen to my NFL but if not, fuck them, i'll have my dog piss on my XM unit if the boys get canned.


I really dont think that Howard will re-instate his gag order. How many years ago was that? So i dont think that we have to worry about O&A getting gag ordered by Hoo Hoo. Unless something/ or someone antagonizes them or him in some way.

[WOWBrian]

i really don't know. remember when O&A first got on XM? you heard those rants. they were great entertainment. but i think they will refuse to put up with that shit again.

[PartyRock24]

English Motherfucker. Do You Type It?


That is such a great comeback. English, Its so current eventish. I cant wait to tell the boys at work about that one, boy, they will surley get a kick outta that one.

Yea tell them while, your holding one of their cocks.

[Freese]

Sean Kingston?

[WOWBrian]

"yeah Mel Tell Em To Shut Up, Dont Even Say Radio Edit!"

Hoooooohoooooohooooohoooo

[Jabber]

Wow Lady CumLip,
I think I will click on you little "here" thingy just to tell you haw funny that hole english bit was LOL

[TheOnion]

The FCC won't block this. O&A are in pretty much screwed on XM. The first employment under Mel didn't work out so well. I don't have a lot of hope for the second go around.

As long as O&A make money for the company they are not going anywhere. Mel and the boys may have bad history, but Mel isn't stupid enough to fire talent that get's subscriptions.

[Razor Roman]

I don't like Breuer, listening to football on the radio, NASCAR, Jimmy Buffet.

Fuck it.

"Doomed. Mother fucking doomed."

[WOWBrian]

True, cuz now that ratings don't matter anymore, all that's left is Mel/Howard's and O&A's ego's and Mel won't give a shit about that when you're talkin about the kind of money that O&A bring in.

[ShavedLebaneseBear]

Once again, it's not about Mel firing them outright. It is about castrating the show, and reverting back to the WNEW situation. After that happens, there will be problems and resentment. O&A will either blow themselves up again, or the situation will become so miserable (ie; a call for them to visit Mel's office - "What time do you guys get up in the morning and decide you are going to fuck Mel Karmazin?"), that they will walk.

It is pretty clear. We want OandA without any "restrictions" from Mel or Hoo Hoo. Can we be guaranteed that? Not a chance. So, now do you see the problem?

[LiddyRules]

i really don't know. remember when O&A first got on XM? you heard those rants. they were great entertainment. but i think they will refuse to put up with that shit again. They won't give up a pretty major contract, possibly have to pay huge amounts if they walk, and have to re-start over because they won't be able to talk about Howard.

Once again, it's not about Mel firing them outright. It is about castrating the show, and reverting back to the WNEW situation. After that happens, there will be problems and resentment. O&A will either blow themselves up again, or the situation will become so miserable (ie; a call for them to visit Mel's office - "What time do yo guys get up in the morning and decide you are going to fuck Mel Karmazin?"), that they will walk. Thank you, it's not as simple as everyone is making it out to be. It's not a "Mel will fire O+A the second they merge" situation. It's going to be a gradual thing. Though I don't think they'll walk.

[WOWBrian]

That's what i was saying earlier. It's about mel and his fuckin ego. However, the summer of '02 was some of the best radio i've ever heard, the shit at XM has just been so much more mel-free that I didn't mind paying for it. I don't wanna pay for a show that's got mel karmazin's feces all over it. GO SUCK A MEAT MEL

[Jabber]

If you belive the lies Howard tells, and you belive the lies O&A tell, You should infect your self with the ebolla virus.

[LiddyRules]

English Motherfucker. Do You Type It?


That is such a great comeback. English, Its so current eventish. I cant wait to tell the boys at work about that one, boy, they will surley get a kick outta that one. Maybe if you made valid points I wouldn't have to resort to funny fotos and movie quotes.

[I_Like_Turtles]

I originally had Sirius (Hi, name's I Like Turtles (I didn't know about the O&A Reference until I met some listeners)). I ended up trashing my Sirius (I had it for 3 months, they never shut it off either), and I got an XM for Christmas. Sirius sucked major ass because EVERY STATION (even the Catholic chat channel (or something)) had ads for fucking Howard Sperm. I hope that if this merger DOES get by somehow, the ads for Howard stay off. That's all I have to say about that. (yes you can post Forrest Gump pics now)

[get crispy]

Who does everyone think Mel is out to get the boys?...MANNNNNN

[WOWBrian]

BECAUSE HE FUCKED THEM IN THE ASS AT WNEW YOU TOOL! jk dude

[Jabber]

Maybe if you made valid points I wouldn't have to resort to funny fotos and movie quotes.


Oh Yeah,
Well I just got back from the Jerk Store, an they said they were out of you.

Ball Bag

[WOWBrian]

Oh Yeah,
Well I just got back from the Jerk Store, an they said they were out of you.

Ball Bag

is that really the best you got? that was the hackiest thing i've read all day on this board.

[jimmyolsenblues]

it can not be a good thing that Mel k. is now the boss of o&a&lilJimmy.

[LiddyRules]

Oh Yeah,
Well I just got back from the Jerk Store, an they said they were out of you. What's the difference. You're their all-time best seller. I'll meet you in Akron fuckface.

[PartyRock24]

Oh Yeah,
Well I just got back from the Jerk Store, an they said they were out of you.

Ball Bag

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::deadhorse:deadhorse

I cringed when i read that post.

[WOWBrian]

omg O&A may go down in flames because of this, but they WILL have such a good time bein O&A and fucking with Mel and Howard till they have to finally punch out.


YOUR MOM'S BOX

[Jabber]

If you enjoy what you just read, let others know here

Ball Bag

[St Regis]

cant wait to hear jimmy
petting the siruis dog again..

[PartyRock24]

Wheres Boardroom Jimmy When we need him?

[WOWBrian]

HOLY SHIT WEDNESDAY IS GONNA BE SUCH FUCKIN GREAT RANTS! i love vacations. always such great anger comes up from distant plans.

[Jabber]

Boy I cringed when I was Typeing it

[LiddyRules]

HOLY SHIT WEDNESDAY IS GONNA BE SUCH FUCKIN GREAT RANTS! i love vacations. always such great anger comes up from distant plans. Oh Brian. What we'll get is either no comment or a muffled comment and then they move on. I'm fully on the side of "no rant"

[pezones]

theres always comedy central...

[WOWBrian]

oh no. I meant on this board.

[Jabber]

FCC = Bad
Merger = Good

Noones getting fired.
Douche Bags

[WOWBrian]

theres always comedy central...

COMEDY CENTRAL IS UTTERLY INFERIOR TO THE VIRUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SwimConnerSwim]

Oh Yeah,
Well I just got back from the Jerk Store, an they said they were out of you.

Ball Bag

Massive douche chills...

[gilpdawg]

wow this is so creative look at what the stupid stern zombies have started on that other site.


http://www.***************.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=348938

fuck the zombies and hoo hoo. I wish they would all die. Oh and fuck any trolls in this thread at well.

There's actually a couple of people in that thread with brains.
I'm a huge Howard Stern fan, first and foremost. I used to bash Opie and Anthony incessantly like everyone else here, they have to suck since Howard says so etc. I am a Stern fan so that's the side I was on.

Then I actually listened to their show while in NYC for a week, got home and downloaded a bunch of their XM shows.

Once you get over the bullshit between the 2 camps you will realize that Opie and Anthony have some incredibly funny shit going on.

I listen to both shows, I'm a fan of comedy, I'm a fan of radio. Looking forward to the possibility of getting both shows on my Sirius.
What will happen is Howard and these two dudes will bury the hatchet in the interest of business, much like he did with Bubba. Have we all forgotten how much smack Bubba talked about Howard and vise-versa? Then the majority - not all - but the majority of you whiners will line up and start saying "I guess they arn't so bad after all!". Who are you kidding with all this silly radio war posturing? Get over it, it's embarassing.
Of course this is what hes going to do. Howard is a salesman, and he will shill for anything if he thinks it will grow his audience and revenue stream. He's thrown himself behind Sirius and if the XM stuff is going to be part of the Sirius family, he will get behind it. He's already started the process to mend the fences by talking about how the one guy was waving to him in AC.
Howard needed to have a show on the side to appeal to the large number of redneck, NASCAR, wrestling fan crowd. Cue Bubba, it's was just business.

In this case, getting Opie & Anthony on Sirius will actually bring a quality show.

[ShavedLebaneseBear]

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::deadhorse:deadhorse

I cringed when i read that post.

Actually, it made me laugh. Ultimate hack, lulz...

[LiddyRules]

oh no. I meant on this board. No you didn't, be honest.

FCC = Bad
Merger = Really Bad

Noones getting fired. Part A) Fixed. Part B) People will get fired and a flat out firing isn't our major concern.

[KevRules]

I keep reading that Mel won't fire them because he is a business man. That's exactly WHY HE WILL FIRE THEM!!!

Mel considers O & A loose cannons.

Try to think from his point of view....do you really think he will want to risk another Sex in a Church, or Condoleezza type of incident and all the negative PR that would come with it....at a time when this newly merged company is trying to create an image for itself??? ::hammer:

I personally don't see any way that he doesn't fire them....unless their show is really really restricted in what they can say and do.

[Jabber]

To all you purple kool aid drinking motherfuckers out there.
Howard Lies
O&A Lies
There is no santa

[WOWBrian]

that was the smartest thing i've heard all day here

[LiddyRules]

To all you purple kool aid drinking motherfuckers out there.
Howard Lies
O&A Lies
There is no santa And? What's your point? If all of us drank the Kool-Aid none of us would be here saying "O+A are fucked by the merger." We'd be saying "La-dee-dah, O+A makes lots and lots of monies for company. Howard makes no and no monies for company. Therefore, Howard bye-bbye, O+A Forever." And only about 70% of us are doing that.

[Earth2murf]

Howard is the Gene Simmons of Radio

[PartyRock24]

To all you purple kool aid drinking motherfuckers out there.
Howard Lies
O&A Lies
There is no santa

[opies sarcastic laugh] AHHUUUHUUUHUUU [opies sarcastic laugh]
Die

[WOWBrian]

Howard is the Gene Simmons of Radio

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT! FINALLY A GOOD LAUGH!

[ShavedLebaneseBear]

To all you purple kool aid drinking motherfuckers out there.
Howard Lies
O&A Lies
There is no santa

Yea, we get it. They're all liars. Point taken.
Not the point though.
This board is full of people who consider the show part of their lives. Is that sad? Yea, maybe, depending on who you ask. Doesn't matter though. The problem here is that there (probably) will be an "edited" show if the merger happens. If the show gets neutered, you will go about your life, but a lot of people will be fully bummed. You are sitting in a thread with a lot of super fans. Perhaps this is not the thread for you, the casual listener. Just sayin'.

[WOWBrian]

this guy is a fuckin pessemist. he probably has a shitty life and can't fully get into the show so he wants to shit on all of us to feel better about himself.

[Brokeback Jimmy]

I think Homer said it best...


BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Fuck Mel in his fucking fuckhole....

[Biff Hardslab]

It is being reported that they will rename "The Virus" to Howard 202.

The lamentations of the pests will be deafening. (http://vaderemo.ytmnd.com/)

[jeffie, lol]

Im not worried. OnA will always have a job. This show has the most listeners in the US.

[ChimneyFish]

I don't like football.

Then you, sir, don't like America.:icon_cool







But seriously folks........



I would HATE to be in any sort of emergency situation with the majority of you motherfuckers. Sheesh.:rolleyes:

[nosegoblin]

Either way this goes down, I hope that they keep Ronny B. and his disfunctional family.

[zoal]

If nothing else hopefully this will mean a few days/weeks of interesting radio.

[WOWBrian]

If nothing else hopefully this will mean a few days/weeks of interesting radio.

HELLO EXACTLY!

[underdog423]

Jimmy said, on air, that he wanted the merger to go through the week before vacation. When they were complaining about nothing happening with the merger, Anthony yelled, "just make a decision already one way or the other," to which lil' Jimmy replied, "preferably a yes decision."

If the actual show wants the merger to go through, why doesn't anyone here want it to?

edit- actually, I think Jimmy said, "Just say yes."

[O&ARAWK]

Welcome to retard central...:rolleyes:

[WOWBrian]

cuz most of the people on this board musta missed that.

[jeffie, lol]

Jimmy said, on air, that he wanted the merger to go through the week before vacation. When they were complaining about nothing happening with the merger, Anthony yelled, "just make a decision already one way or the other," to which lil' Jimmy replied, "preferably a yes decision."

If the actual show wants the merger to go through, why doesn't anyone here want it to?

Yeah, why do most most wackbaggers oppose the merger. I never understood that.

[ChimneyFish]

Jimmy said, on air, that he wanted the merger to go through the week before vacation. When they were complaining about nothing happening with the merger, Anthony yelled, "just make a decision already one way or the other," to which lil' Jimmy replied, "preferably a yes decision."

If the actual show wants the merger to go through, why doesn't anyone here want it to?

Because there's a lot of Overreacting Otis' one this board.

[LiddyRules]

Then you, sir, don't like America.:icon_cool I have never denied that.

I would HATE to be in any sort of emergency situation with the majority of you motherfuckers. Sheesh.:rolleyes: Are you kidding? If we're ever in a crisis situation it would be best for everyone involved just to kill me.

[wes mantooth]

Oh Yeah,
Well I just got back from the Jerk Store, and they said they were out of you.

Ball Bag


Hey look at my new sig! I even dusted off this gem by correcting the shitty spelling. It absolutely must shine in all it's glory.

[Plunkies]

Wow the government choosing their own greed over the good of the people....Surprising.

[beantown]

wait, so people dont want a merger because the show will be censored? how many of those people support this freeFM experiment?

[UnOriginal]

Will this end in something rhyming with Door Bomb's Socks?

[ArthurT.Opless]

To all you purple kool aid drinking motherfuckers out there.
Howard Lies
O&A Lies
There is no santa

Why should anyone listen to you traitor. Maybe you should explain yourself fucking spy!

http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=87245

[Turfmower]

It Stinks and i dont like it.

[jsc315]

ohemgeeez!!!!!!!!! speculation speculations!
Blind CC
copy paste
copy paste
::hammer::hamm:::hammer::hamm::arrrh:
Lets wait and see what happens before we all freak and assume the world is at a end. It has only been a few fuckin hours that this was announced. I just love how everyone knows that everything is going to be fucked without knowing shit. Lets wait and hear what O&A have to say about this and we go on from there.

[ShavedLebaneseBear]

Will this end in something rhyming with Door Bomb's Socks?


Well, you got the "bomb" part right. :)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/j7wb/crash.jpg

[STARTSOMETHING]

I use to bother with this. But, right now, i don't care. Wherever the show go's i will follow. And fm will gain one more listener.

That 12.95 will go great towards a case of beer a month.

[Buds Spuckley]

There is no reason for them to be moved to afternoons.

None.

No reason to change 202 whatsoever.

If, as YOU say, there's no competition here, what's the fucking purpose behind moving their time slot? Other than to give Howie his way again.

Furthermore, you're ignoring the fact that O&A are replayed in the afternoons. You can listen to Howard in the morning IF that is your choice, and listen to the O&A replay after R&F.

Basically, you've utterly failed to make your case as to why they should be moved.

Since you are judge and jury on here I will answer you again. Revenue and bandwith, they arent going to have redundant channels because they are moving into mobile video.

Why would they have multiple channels for howard (that he cant fill) and another for O&A and R&F when they can combine them to one channel and have it filled with solid talk all day.

They also cut out the replays and sell the shows on Audible, again more revenue from Howard fans who miss his whole show.

You then have a streamlined multimedia company not just radio company, think on demand video to your car.

Thats how they will survive, by bringing not just radio but video as well.

[Sevenyars]

Oh Yeah,
Well I just got back from the Jerk Store, an they said they were out of you.

Ball Bag

I believe that is from Seinfeld

[LiddyRules]

wait, so people dont want a merger because the show will be censored? how many of those people support this freeFM experiment? Few if you bothered to read the site. And if you don't see the difference between Censored Satellite and Censored FM, there's something wrong with you.

[WOWBrian]

shit...i really liked the replays

[HappyBDayJimmy]

I'm hoping the higher ups realize that Howie only has 2-3 years left on his contract, so getting rid of the boys would be just stupid in the long run.

[Sevenyars]

Will this end in something rhyming with Door Bomb's Socks?


I was actually hoping for a good Bra bombing. Coors long cox

[Jabber]

Why should anyone listen to you traitor. Maybe you should explain yourself fucking spy!

http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=87245

Traitor?
Your right lets let the FCC destroy the merger. Lets write to the FCC and talk out of our asses. Lets make the FCC our friends.
Goverment make money, The NAB is in everyones pockets, good fucking lord.
I look forward to O&A on Sirius.

I made up Jerk Store, an I think its funny

[ArthurT.Opless]

Traitor?
Your right lets let the FCC destroy the merger. Lets write to the FCC and talk out of our asses. Lets make the FCC our friends.
Goverment make money, The NAB is in everyones pockets, good fucking lord.
I look forward to O&A on Sirius.

I made up Jerk Store, an I think its funny

Click the fucking link jerkoff. You got some explaining to do. Fucking spy!

http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=87245

[Jabber]

I did, It ws funny.

[WOWmagnet]

Traitor?
Your right lets let the FCC destroy the merger. Lets write to the FCC and talk out of our asses. Lets make the FCC our friends.
Goverment make money, The NAB is in everyones pockets, good fucking lord.
I look forward to O&A on Sirius.

I made up Jerk Store, an I think its funny

Seinfeld rip off.:icon_roll

[Jabber]

Everyone now has my e-mail address.
OH NO!!!!!!!
You guys are good.

[WOWmagnet]

wait, so people dont want a merger because the show will be censored? how many of those people support this freeFM experiment?

Um, censored on XM, they mean.

[Jabber]

Whos this Siendfield you talk of?

[ShavedLebaneseBear]

Click the fucking link jerkoff. You got some explaining to do. Fucking spy!

http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=87245

That old gag...

[Buds Spuckley]

Traitor?
Your right lets let the FCC destroy the merger. Lets write to the FCC and talk out of our asses. Lets make the FCC our friends.
Goverment make money, The NAB is in everyones pockets, good fucking lord.
I look forward to O&A on Sirius.

I made up Jerk Store, an I think its funny

Seinfeld owes you a check then he made an entire show around your joke Mr Mencia.

http://www.pkmeco.com/seinfeld/comeback.htm

[Sevenyars]

Traitor?

I made up Jerk Store, an I think its funny

I'll break the bad news to Larry David

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfioD-ING8

[WOWmagnet]

People are saying that as contracts run out, so do jobs.

[ChimneyFish]

I made up Jerk Store, an I think its funny

Did you also, by any chance, give up on pants????

[wes mantooth]

All the Mel and Howard bashing aside I'd like to vent my frustrations where I feel they are most truly deserved. The clueless, incompetent, cock chugging, no-talent ass clowns that are the XM executives. Fuck you for your piss poor job of promoting the XM brand. Fuck you for not promoting and in fact muzzeling the best goddamn show on both networks. Fuck you for sitting on your asses and watching your advantages slip away. You bunch of no marketing cocksuckers had Sirius by the nuts and still managed to get trumped. Were you already working for Mel when you signed up with XM? Seems like it. I hope all of you cunts take your golden parachutes and go back to the pussified PC wasteland that is FM. That is truly your home, faggots. At least Tom C. and the rest have the FCC as an excuse. What's yours? Oh yeah right....no fucking balls.

[DonTheTrucker]

I'm pretty sure this thread is a mirror duplicate of the thread started the day the merger was proposed.

People stop speculation. Unless you're in the radio business or a dentist you don't know shit about whats going on, so why speculate?

I am the first to admit I don't know whats going on. My gut feeling is that things will be fine, but I'm not going to put that in a thread as gospel truth.

[DonTheTrucker]

People are saying that as contracts run out, so do jobs.

People are cunts.

[Jabber]

Seinfeld owes you a check then he made an entire show around your joke Mr Mencia.

http://www.pkmeco.com/seinfeld/comeback.htm


HE DID!!!!!

Another hooked nose Jew fucking the white man. Well thats it. Fuck Howard Fuck Mel. Fuck this Sign-Jew mother fucker too.

Because Im Master Of My Domain!!!!!!!

Lets see him rip that one off

[Sevenyars]

I'm pretty sure this thread is a mirror duplicate of the thread started the day the merger was proposed.

People stop speculation. Unless you're in the radio business or a dentist you don't know shit about whats going on, so why speculate?

I am the first to admit I don't know whats going on. My gut feeling is that things will be fine, but I'm not going to put that in a thread as gospel truth.

Don't you have some $4.00 a gallon diesel to go buy?

[ArthurT.Opless]

I'm pretty sure this thread is a mirror duplicate of the thread started the day the merger was proposed.

People stop speculation. Unless you're in the radio business or a dentist you don't know shit about whats going on, so why speculate?

I am the first to admit I don't know whats going on. My gut feeling is that things will be fine, but I'm not going to put that in a thread as gospel truth.

OFT. Voice of reason.

[Ronreddog]

I HATE speculation threads!

[75.1Glide]

O&A........... welcome to mid-day on Howard 101

Howard 6:00 AM -12:00
O&A 12:00 to 3:00 PM
Bubba 3:00pm to 7:00pm
daily specials 7:00pm to 8:00pm
Ferrall 8:00pm to 11:00pm

[DonTheTrucker]

Don't you have some $4.00 a gallon diesel to go buy?

$4.24 here. Thank god I don't have to worry about paying for it.

Oh wait, I do with every product I buy. So does everyone else. :(

[DonTheTrucker]

O&A........... welcome to mid-day on Howard 101

Howard 6:00 AM -12:00
O&A 12:00 to 3:00 PM
Bubba 3:00pm to 7:00pm
daily specials 7:00pm to 11:00pm
Ferrall 8:00pm to 11:00pm

Thank you Mr. Karmazi for sharing your plans with us. :icon_roll

[Sevenyars]

$4.24 here. Thank god I don't have to worry about paying for it.

Oh wait, I do with every product I buy. So does everyone else. :(

No, my money goes to welfare and unwed malata babies

[Brokeback Jimmy]

...Unless you're in the radio business or a dentist you don't know shit...



It's Allen Sniifen.

On the NewYorkRadioMessageBoards!

LINGERRRR LONGERRR!!!!

[Deadhead]

All the Mel and Howard bashing aside I'd like to vent my frustrations where I feel they are most truly deserved. The clueless, incompetent, cock chugging, no-talent ass clowns that are the XM executives. Fuck you for your piss poor job of promoting the XM brand. Fuck you for not promoting and in fact muzzeling the best goddamn show on both networks. Fuck you for sitting on your asses and watching your advantages slip away. You bunch of no marketing cocksuckers had Sirius by the nuts and still managed to get trumped. Were you already working for Mel when you signed up with XM? Seems like it. I hope all of you cunts take your golden parachutes and go back to the pussified PC wasteland that is FM. That is truly your home, faggots. At least Tom C. and the rest have the FCC as an excuse. What's yours? Oh yeah right....no fucking balls.



Quoted so it could be read again.

:clap::clap::clap:

I'll wait and see what happens.
IF the bbboys are gone... so will I.
But I, and a couple:rolleyes: of pests wont go quietly!!!

[umo]

I dont get this. The Justice Department has officially approved a Sirius Satellite Radio $5 billion buyout of rival XM Satellite Radio. How in the fuck did this happen? I thought XM was by far the bigger and richer company. At least they were at the time Howard Stern signed his contract with Sirius.

"You don't buy me out. I buy you out" _Moe Green

[ChimneyFish]

I dont get this. The Justice Department has officially approved a Sirius Satellite Radio $5 billion buyout of rival XM Satellite Radio. How in the fuck did this happen? I thought XM was by far the bigger and richer company. At least they were at the time Howard Stern signed his contract with Sirius.

"You don't buy me out. I buy you out" _Moe Green

Neither company was in a position to keep going for very long without merging. And it is a MERGER, so some of XM's staff is staying.

[ScottFromGA]

It is being reported that they will rename "The Virus" to Howard 202.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/24/news/companies/xm_sirius/?postversion=2008032415 (http://www.meatspin.com)

FUCKER!!!!


ARGGGGG, I'VE ALWAYS AVOIDED IT TILL NOW!!!


I HOPE YOU DIE!!!!! UGHHHH.......:haha7::haha7::haha7:

[ThaDRD]

I dont get this. The Justice Department has officially approved a Sirius Satellite Radio $5 billion buyout of rival XM Satellite Radio. How in the fuck did this happen? I thought XM was by far the bigger and richer company. At least they were at the time Howard Stern signed his contract with Sirius.

"You don't buy me out. I buy you out" _Moe Green

Yeah, I don't get it either...they were ahead technology wise, and then for Sirius to piss away half-a-billion on Howard; you'd think XM was pwning them.

[lick]

Been looking for a way to save some money. If O and A are fucked with then I will save on my XM subs.

[RabidHamster]

All the Mel and Howard bashing aside I'd like to vent my frustrations where I feel they are most truly deserved. The clueless, incompetent, cock chugging, no-talent ass clowns that are the XM executives. Fuck you for your piss poor job of promoting the XM brand. Fuck you for not promoting and in fact muzzeling the best goddamn show on both networks. Fuck you for sitting on your asses and watching your advantages slip away. You bunch of no marketing cocksuckers had Sirius by the nuts and still managed to get trumped. Were you already working for Mel when you signed up with XM? Seems like it. I hope all of you cunts take your golden parachutes and go back to the pussified PC wasteland that is FM. That is truly your home, faggots. At least Tom C. and the rest have the FCC as an excuse. What's yours? Oh yeah right....no fucking balls.


:clap:

[RabidHamster]

O&A........... welcome to mid-day on Howard 101

Howard 6:00 AM -12:00
O&A 12:00 to 3:00 PM
Bubba 3:00pm to 7:00pm
daily specials 7:00pm to 8:00pm
Ferrall 8:00pm to 11:00pm

WTF - No Ron & Fez?

[topher520]

(Jimcy says)It wasnt a Buy out Mel....It was MERGER!!!!

I havent looked at the 10 other pages of this thread yet, but I'm sure someone has used that old gag before me.

Honestly WHO CARES?? O & A have there spot and for the Mels of this world to take it from them would be fuckin Dumb for business. The boys make money and thats what they want. They will Focus on Howie as the main Guy, but who cares? Dont listen like the rest of the world and let them promote this Old Jew Fuck all they want as the "savior" of all Sat radio. As long as the Boys still have 202 with R & F then there will be no difference. People will choose who to listen to and who not to. I dont think it will be a big deal unless Howie and Mel are dummies and try to Stir shit up.

[mayor menino]

why can't howard and the boys compete on different channels? it would only diversify the merged company. keep o & a and r & f on one channel or channels and let howie have his channels.

my uneducated guess is that nothing will happen to the 202 lineup.

[censorshipsucks]

O&A........... welcome to mid-day on Howard 101

Howard 6:00 AM -12:00
O&A 12:00 to 3:00 PM
Bubba 3:00pm to 7:00pm
daily specials 7:00pm to 8:00pm
Ferrall 8:00pm to 11:00pm

There's no way Howard would do five hours of radio he can't even do five days a week.

[Begbie]

So...does Bubba now get to fire O&A himself? :icon_mrgr If anything, Bubba should really have a problem with this. Had Howard retired at the end of this contract, Bubba probably would have expected to be in line to take over his slot. Now with O&A in the mix and bigger than that douche, they would probably get first dibs. For all we know, this could work out well for O&A...or it could blow up in their faces.

As a fan of satellite radio in general however, I'm not that optimistic. Mel has pushed this merger as consumer friendly. But in reality, this merger is all about making satrad profitable. I'm sure there will be a temporary price freeze in effect, ordering XMSirius to stay under a max price, but that could only be 6 months for all we know. With a tiered pricing structure, I would not be shocked to have to pay an additional $4-$6/mo for comparable service to what I have now. It may not be in a year, but more like 2+ years.

Also, the NAB and terrestrial radio have pressured the FCC to have some terms and conditions if the merger is approved. They want a level playing field and enough opportunity for terrestrial to compete. What does that entail? It's all about censorship and limiting access to uncensored channels. Also, discouraging satrad from airing local content. Some have even gone as far to say that the city traffic channels are local and should be removed. They also want HD radio as an option on the new dual band receivers. There is more to it, I just forget some of the NAB's other demands. Expect the FCC to approve the merger, with some of those conditions in play.

What I can't understand is how this wouldn't be a monopoly. It eliminates any opportunity for another satellite radio company to start. Sure, they can have music and some of the talk channels, but the big XMSirius has exclusive rights to all major professional and college sports and big talk personalities...minus the likes of Imus, Hannity, and Limbaugh...who I'm certain wouldn't go to a fledgling start-up satrad company that is going to get it's ass handed to them by the monster that is XMSirius. Bottom line, there is only one subscription based satellite radio company operating in North America. And it is now near impossible and would be a financial disaster for another company to start and attempt to compete.

Mergers always benefit the consumer...not so much.

[TOM CHARLESTON]

O&A........... welcome to mid-day on Howard 101

Howard 6:00 AM -12:00
O&A 12:00 to 3:00 PM
Bubba 3:00pm to 7:00pm
daily specials 7:00pm to 8:00pm
Ferrall 8:00pm to 11:00pm

Howard at 9am till 3pm on H101

[JSHAW]

Been looking for a way to save some money. If O and A are fucked with then I will save on my XM subs.

Word to ya motha!

[Zuke]

they do if there is a lawsuit

No they don't. The Supreme Court only deals with Constitutional issues. Take a High School Civics course for Christsake.

[Dre]

Copy paste, copy paste....

I am apprehensive as usual with any news like this for the bbbboys, but I'll wait for their word on it, opposed to speculating, I think it'll work out for the good in the end, O&A would never get dropped as a satellite show, they're too big of money makers to get dropped.

[Zuke]

when the inevitable lawsuit occurs, and i'm sure it's already been filed, the supreme court will most definitely rule on it
and they'll quash it

it's an illegal monopoly, plain and simple, regardless of how much the administration and its campaign donors at sirius and xm wish it wasn't

You really don't understand our system of government at all, do you? The Supreme Court only deals with Constitutional matters. How do you think a monopoly has anything to do with constitutional law?

[FreeAM]

How is Sirius the controlling company? Isn't XM worth more? I know XM's stock is worth more.

XM's isn't worth more than Sirius.... hasn't been since late 2004. The common mistake that some people make is thinking that the price per share tells you which company is worth more. By itself, it doesn't.

[oandapartycock]

Here's why I think, "Everything's gonna be ok..."

1. Mel is now in charge of a company that is a far cry from when Howard was in his heyday when he had as much as 12 million listeners. Gone are the days when syndicating Howard throughout the country could pay the bills and he knows it. Even Howard admitted that he was "shocked" that more of his listeners didn't follow him to satellite. :icon_mrgr

2. Both companies are in dire financial straights, especially XM. In 2007, XM reported a loss of $682.3 million. That's WAS a 7 percent improvement over 2006, when they lost ONLY $731.7 million. That's from a company whose REVENUE was $1.14 billion in 2007. The last few years, they've been losing nearly half their gross revenue. How long do you think you can keep hemorrhaging like that without bleeding to death? :huh:

3. Sirius has been steadily gaining on XM since Howard came on board in terms of subscribers. At the end of 2007 Sirius was only about 700,000 behind XM's 9.03 million subscribers. In another year, Sirius would probably have overtaken them. :tacos:

4. Say what you want about the little doggie company, but I think they know how to market their product better since they're still gaining subscribers even after the initial Howard surge. If O&A had that kind of support from the beginning maybe XM wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. :icon_conf:

5. I'm sure the fallout from XM suspending O&A did not go unnoticed by somebody as smart as Mel. :icon_cool

6. If O&A were smaht, like people think, hopefully they had XM put language in their contract that lets them talk about Howard specifically. Hopefully one learns from their mistakes. ;)

7. With the merger finally getting approved, now XM can let O&A finally return to being fully uncensored. Handjobs for everyone! Howard is getting away with a lot more over at Sirius right now. :icon_razz

8. As far as O&A moving to afternoons I can't see that happening unless the boys decide to give up on terrestrial radio altogether. Their contract with CBS will be up and will need to be resigned before Mel becomes their "official" boss. For what it's worth, the boys, especially Ant have been saying how these hours aren't conducive to a normal lifestyle. :action-sm

9. Why does this have to be all about Howard? The way I see it, O&A are going to be exposed to 8 million new listeners. As was pointed out before, Howard and Bubba were enemies at one point but now most of the Zombies have been converted to the Church of the Love Sponge. :rolleyes:

10. I just made one hundred and sixty-five DOLLARS today! (On paper...):haha7:

P.S. Sorry for the occasional peppering of "facts" in my speculations, but I think I made up for it with my cute li'l smileys.

P.P.S Being that this has turned into a speculation thread, let me be the first to exclaim,

"O&A WERE SO MUCH BETTER WHEN THEY WERE JUST ON XM AND CBS RADIO!!!!!"

[FreeAM]

This Merger won't become official for more than a year if there is a Supreme Court case filed... So let's all hold your britches.

Ummmm.... there is no such thing as "filing a Supreme Court case"::hammer::hamm::arrrh:

[UsedLadBag]

Since this thread is up to 12 pages, I figured I'd post before we go into Pat Battle mode. Nervous nellies.

I dare Mel to fuck with O&A. I look forward to it. I'll feed him his own guts and shit in his hat. What do you think about those apples?

[CM Mark]

Not that anyone cares, but my thoughts on this whole shebang?




Steve Kingston

[SwimConnerSwim]

The lack of understanding of simple civics is staggering...

[23 Skidoo]

Bottom line, nothing is changing in the immediate future. O&A will be back on Wednesday, the show will be good as always, and it will take months upon months for any programming changes as a result of the merger to take place. And when the day arrives when changes start being made across XM & Sirius, I really think O&A are going to be alright because (1) Mel's no dummy, he will keep a proven money maker, and (2) Howie doesn't have as much leverage as he used to.

O&A Always Win in the End

[Ballbuster1]

Bottom line, nothing is changing in the immediate future. O&A will be back on Wednesday, the show will be good as always, and it will take months upon months for any programming changes as a result of the merger to take place. And when the day arrives when changes start being made across XM & Sirius, I really think O&A are going to be alright because (1) Mel's no dummy, he will keep a proven money maker, and (2) Howie's doesn't have as much leverage as he used to.

O&A Always Win in the End
Months? It'll be a long time before all the details can be worked out IF it even
goes thru. Nothing is going to change for some time, probably years.

[DJ Evel Ed]

This is what happens when billionaires can pay everyone involved off. Listening to HooHoo again after many many years off should be interesting. I still will not support his advertisers unless he makes up with O&A. (not that the money would matter but just principle) I would bet that he is still old & unfunny. Ferrall however will be a nice nightcap. I just hope O&A are not censored and don't have to give HooHoo a Beso Negro to keep their jobs.
Will they actually lower prices? I'll be shocked since milk, gas, & taxes are all going up. Why would Mel feel compelled to "give back" to the middle class when nobody else is. I bet Mel & Howie are going to fuck all our Mothers.

We can have a Flush Our Toilets And Fuck Our Mothers Day every Friday while Howie's home counting $$$.

[XMhater]

Since this thread is up to 12 pages, I figured I'd post before we go into Pat Battle mode. Nervous nellies.

I dare Mel to fuck with O&A. I look forward to it. I'll feed him his own guts and shit in his hat. What do you think about those apples?

You're a good egg

[asswiper]

One possible bright light...
Ron can trade Earl to HooHoo. He seems to like the naggers.


I suck.

[XMhater]

5. I'm sure the fallout from XM suspending O&A did not go unnoticed by somebody as smart as Mel. :icon_cool


9. Why does this have to be all about Howard? The way I see it, O&A are going to be exposed to 8 million new listeners. As was pointed out before, Howard and Bubba were enemies at one point but now most of the Zombies have been converted to the Church of the Love Sponge. :rolleyes:

Wow, excellent analysis :clap:

I felt at the time that the O&A suspension was designed specifically for the powers that be to test how rabid and numerous O&A's fan base actually is so your thoughts on Mel are right on. And radio fueds may not exactly be staged
but there is a lot of WWE in them for certain. Don't be shocked if Howard and the b-b-boys make nice. It's much more likely than not.

[kevtv]

If Howie is so into the service and technology as he professed he was at the same time that he was signing a $500 million dollar contract, he will welcome added talent and features and will look forward to a combined service that can really make a noticeable impact on the way people choose to listen to music and entertainment.

If he is the Howie he has been in the past, he has already banned O and A from the press conference.

Hoo hoo linggggggggggggg long.

[UsedLadBag]

Don't be shocked if Howard and the b-b-boys make nice. It's much more likely than not.

It's more likely that Kirk and Khan will become gay lovers, then O&A and HooHoo making up.

[the_ba]

I wonder how the first company meeting will go. I wonder if Bubba will make good on his promise to punch Opie in the face.

Leeber Loonger!!

[ChrisH]

You really don't understand our system of government at all, do you? The Supreme Court only deals with Constitutional matters. How do you think a monopoly has anything to do with constitutional law?

Where and when did you go to law school?

Here is a two-second Googling of antitrust (monoply) case comentary in the Supreme Court--courtesy of the DOJ:

http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/public/speeches/204136.htm

Second, the Supreme Court could concievably review this decision--after a plaintiff who has standing (i.e. someone who claims they have actually suffered a cognizable injury by the DOJ's action) files an action in District Court. Then, the loser would appeal the case to the Court of Appeals, and finally, *if* the Supreme Court wanted to grant cert (i.e. if it wanted to hear the case--no requirement), it would calendar it--in, oh, five years or so. Ain't gonna happen.

Plus, the threshold for reviewing administrative action (the DOJ's determination) is quite high; under federal law, administrative agenices' decisions are given extreme deference by the courts (in other words, rarely is second-guessing upheld).

But hey, what the hell do I know. I never took "civics," just lotsa dat there book learn'in getting my Juris Doctor.

[XMhater]

It's more likely that Kirk and Khan will become gay lovers, then O&A and HooHoo making up.

You mean Kirk and Khan were NOT gay lovers? News to me. :icon_lol:

[WOWBrian]

Since this thread is up to 12 pages, I figured I'd post before we go into Pat Battle mode. Nervous nellies.

I dare Mel to fuck with O&A. I look forward to it. I'll feed him his own guts and shit in his hat. What do you think about those apples?

You're a good egg

[WOWBrian]

If Howie is so into the service and technology as he professed he was at the same time that he was signing a $500 million dollar contract, he will welcome added talent and features and will look forward to a combined service that can really make a noticeable impact on the way people choose to listen to music and entertainment.

If he is the Howie he has been in the past, he has already banned O and A from the press conference.

Hoo hoo linggggggggggggg long.

Yeah and he'll be in his stretch limo CRYING TO ELO THAT THEY ARE TO BE REMOVED!

MEL: "IF YOU CAN'T CONTROL THOSE GUYS...I'M FIRING YOU!"

[Begbie]

9. Why does this have to be all about Howard? The way I see it, O&A are going to be exposed to 8 million new listeners. As was pointed out before, Howard and Bubba were enemies at one point but now most of the Zombies have been converted to the Church of the Love Sponge.

This likely is not the case in fact, it very well could be worse for O&A. XM's 9 million subscribers who have access to O&A now and Sirius' 8 million subscribers, will need to add the O&A channel under Mel's ala carte pricing plans. There will likely be an extra monthly fee for the channel, and the same goes for Howard's channels, the sports channels, etc. The casual listener that checked out the show briefly may decide to not pay an extra fee for O&A. And it minimizes the chances of getting new listeners.

[WOWBrian]

that is absolute bullshit

[The Truth Bell]

Months? It'll be a long time before all the details can be worked out IF it even
goes thru. Nothing is going to change for some time, probably years.

I don't think so. This was not a Merger that both companies wanted to do. It's what they NEEDED to do. So the sooner they merge the service and fire the redundancies, the sooner they can profit. It will be much faster than you think.

[XMhater]

I don't think so. This was not a Merger that both companies wanted to do. It's what they NEEDED to do. So the sooner they merge the service and fire the redundancies, the sooner they can profit. It will be much faster than you think.

Can't happen soon enough for me. Why delay the inevitable? Besides, this thread will grow larger than Anthony's giant Italian cock if it takes a year to sort this out. And nobody wants that.

[Jame_gumb]

Time to go and fuck my mother and flush my XM down the toilet, I guess.X2

[LiddyRules]

5. I'm sure the fallout from XM suspending O&A did not go unnoticed by somebody as smart as Mel. :icon_cool Was the fallout really that...big? I mean that I know that it worked in getting them on the air but there were a lot of different factors at play. Because they were suspended over something said on the air, it got national media attention. Firing a somewhat popular radio show in the heat of a huge controversy, got press. Canceling a radio show because it doesn't fit with a post-merger plan? Not close to the same thing. And no, I don't think if O+A simply got fired from satellite it will be anywhere the firestorm the suspension got.

Did we ever really figure out how many people canceled?

XM had nothing else in their place. O+A was the flagship show. Sirius has Howard.

I love O+A and I know it's a big show but how profitable is it really? In a cost-benefit analysis even something that's somewhat profitable might have to go.

6. If O&A were smaht, like people think, hopefully they had XM put language in their contract that lets them talk about Howard specifically. Hopefully one learns from their mistakes. ;) The second WNEW contract had that provision. It was never enforced.

7. With the merger finally getting approved, now XM can let O&A finally return to being fully uncensored. Handjobs for everyone! Howard is getting away with a lot more over at Sirius right now. :icon_razz I still doubt it. It's not fully approved yet and even if it is, I doubt they'd still risk O+A ruining it.

8. As far as O&A moving to afternoons I can't see that happening unless the boys decide to give up on terrestrial radio altogether. Their contract with CBS will be up and will need to be resigned before Mel becomes their "official" boss. For what it's worth, the boys, especially Ant have been saying how these hours aren't conducive to a normal lifestyle. :action-sm Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the terrestrial deal from the XM side? As in FM pays XM the right to use O+A. I don't know what will happen when their contract expires but because of the internal politics, it might not be resigned.

[oandapartycock]

This likely is not the case in fact, it very well could be worse for O&A. XM's 9 million subscribers who have access to O&A now and Sirius' 8 million subscribers, will need to add the O&A channel under Mel's ala carte pricing plans. There will likely be an extra monthly fee for the channel, and the same goes for Howard's channels, the sports channels, etc. The casual listener that checked out the show briefly may decide to not pay an extra fee for O&A. And it minimizes the chances of getting new listeners.

People are forgetting that for most people this is going to be a non issue. Your prices aren't going to change if you just want to keep XM or keep Sirius only. It's only when you want something "extra" off the other service that you'll be asked to pay. But now they'll have the ability to cross promote and offer free trials on the internet or free trials using each company's extra bandwidth, like XM does on channel 2.

Here's the price list.:
http://www.xmmerger.com/uploads/FINAL_New_Package_Release_7-23-07.pdf

As you can see, getting "All XM and Select Sirius" is only a couple of bucks more. Of course you'll most likely need a new radio, but they're already out there. Have been for about a year now.
http://tech.yahoo.com/blog/patterson/733

Think about it. After this merger, the new company is going to sell a ton of new receivers because a lot of people like multiple sports like NFL, MLB, Hockey, NBA, etc.

Also, if you end up being one of those "Early Adopters," I'm pretty sure they're going to be offering some pretty sweet deals there for pre-paying for multi-year subscriptions because it will be a quick way to get some quick positive cash flow into the company.

Remember, this could have been a lot worse. There were many entities that wanted the new company to give up as much as HALF of their combined bandwidth, which would have been a huge logistical nightmare.

Besides, this thread will grow larger than Anthony's giant Italian cock if it takes a year to sort this out. And nobody wants that.

Why? I thought Mel liked Ant's giant cock. Oops, sorry, wrong Mel...






:action-sm

Was the fallout really that...big? I mean that I know that it worked in getting them on the air but there were a lot of different factors at play. Because they were suspended over something said on the air, it got national media attention. Firing a somewhat popular radio show in the heat of a huge controversy, got press. Canceling a radio show because it doesn't fit with a post-merger plan? Not close to the same thing. And no, I don't think if O+A simply got fired from satellite it will be anywhere the firestorm the suspension got.

Did we ever really figure out how many people canceled?

Didn't those Arbitron ratings say something like only 250,000 people were listening to O&A during that survey during the suspension when it's been sort of confirmed they're at a 1,000,000+

I'm not saying that 750,000 people canceled, but Opie did say on the first show back or at the Virus Tour show that if it had not been for the pests, they would have probably lost their jobs.

I love O+A and I know it's a big show but how profitable is it really? In a cost-benefit analysis even something that's somewhat profitable might have to go.

I think the boys are being pretty honest in saying they're the number one (at least) talk show. If they're pulling in 1.2 million listeners, that's more than 10 percent of their entire subscriber base. It wouldn't be like Fox canceling Idol, but maybe canceling a decent sized hit like Family Guy. Oh, shit. Bad example. Are you smarter than a 5th grader?

6. If O&A were smaht, like people think, hopefully they had XM put language in their contract that lets them talk about Howard specifically. Hopefully one learns from their mistakes.
The second WNEW contract had that provision. It was never enforced.

I think you read that wrong. I said that their current contract LETS them talk about Howie specifically...

[Legend of Snuka]

Here's my worthless opinion...

I think everything's going to be fine..I echo that nothing really is going to change that much..Satellite Radio is going to look for like Cable TV then anything else. You'll have the option to purchase different packages...Gut feeling Virus stays pretty much as is, Howard stays as is. Mel is a business man, he's going to keep his talent no matter how much they hate each other. I'm sure you'll have the occasional jabs between the shows but nothing crazy.

Where you'll lose things is redundant stations say Fungus,XM Comedy to the Sirius equivalents etc. And may have to dish out some more cash for the sports packages.

AFRO is going to be fine

[zspook1]

Xm has infrastructure + OnA, Sirius has talent, NFL etc, this merger started before any of us had satellite radio. I have to think this was the plan from the begining. XM would be the the antennae and sirius would be the product. If anything happens to the Virus I will go Ipod.I cant drive in a car without satellite radio. Local radio in San Antonio is unlistenable for me. Fuckin A Frunkiss.

[Syntax]

I hope XM's entire customer service department gets canned.

Someone got paid off to make this deal go through.

well the first thing to depreciate in a monopoly is usually customer service.

[Jerry1]

To be honest, if the deal happened tomorrow we still wouldn't have to worry about O&A or R&F for awhile. Mel will have enough on his plate consolidating the companies and figuring out what goes and what stays. Cause in alot of respects there are part where XM does better than Sirius and vice versa and they gotta go through all that before anything gets cut.
Then they gotta figure out the technology to fuse the two services together so one radio will be able to carry O&A, Stern, MLB, NFL and a host of others.
The logistics alone will keep Mel busy for a year or two.

The 500 million dollar gorilla in all this is Howie. If Howie goes off on the boys and the boys retaliate(I don't see O&A picking a fight with Stern) then Howard may pull the ole "gag order" routine. He may do it for the simple fact that they can bash him on terrestrial and he can't. So his excuse will be that he's leveling the playing field.
Hopefully Mel will be too busy with the merger that he'll tell Howie either to lump it or don't worry about it.

I don't see the boys going into the subject too much on Wednesday cause there is still the FCC hurdle to cross and there may be some restriction of talk about it due to stocks and the SEC.

As for me, I feel very uneasy about the whole thing.

[The Truth Bell]

I love O+A and I know it's a big show but how profitable is it really? In a cost-benefit analysis even something that's somewhat profitable might have to go.



I think it's very profitable. First of all, FM is paying their salaries now.

Second, even if their XM numbers are less than 1/4 of Sterns, that's still about 250k people that O&A bring in.

That's 3.25 million a month. 39 million a year.

Personally I think even after the merger that Satellite radio will never be cable TV.

Wireless Broadband will.

What's selling better, Ipods and Iphones or Innos?

Itunes is gonna subscription soon and people will pay for all you can download wirelessly on their phones.

The only thing that XM/Sirius has over Apple is O&A and Howard.

:action-sm:action-sm

[Det John Kimbal]

Yeah, it's sort of like when people around here and O&A themselves would talk about how XM is always kicking Sirus' ass and how they had the best car deals, etc. Now Sirius is the dominant company in the merger between the two.

I hope O&A stay on satellite, because I don't really enjoy the FM portion all that much.

How can Sirus be the dominant company when their stock prices were taking a shit when all this first started?:huh:

[LiddyRules]

Personally I think even after the merger that Satellite radio will never be cable TV. Really? You think an overall outdated medium will never be as popular as one of the top, most exciting and ever-changing forms of media ever? That's like saying "I don't think this graphing calculator will be as big as the internet."

[KNUCKLEUP]

it's a merrrrrrrrgerrrrrrrrrrrr, sam!

[DJ Evel Ed]

Is it possible that during the suspension, when everyone canceled their subs, myself included, it may have hurt XM for this merger? Maybe it affected that first ratings book enough to make XM the fuckee rather than the fucker.

Just sayin

[BIV]

Is it possible that during the suspension, when everyone canceled their subs, myself included, it may have hurt XM for this merger? Maybe it affected that first ratings book enough to make XM the fuckee rather than the fucker.

Just sayin
No. They had agreed to be the fuckee long before that.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Of course you'll most likely need a new radio, but they're already out there. Have been for about a year now.
http://tech.yahoo.com/blog/patterson/733

No, they're not.

The link you provided is for a $1500 home unit that has the ability to control, and display information from, a satellite radio unit (which still needs to be purchased separately). It's not truly interoperable, and it sure the fuck isn't portable.

Dual-receiver radios are still not available.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Then they gotta figure out the technology to fuse the two services together so one radio will be able to carry O&A, Stern, MLB, NFL and a host of others.
The logistics alone will keep Mel busy for a year or two.


And unfortunately, the differences between the two technologies make it impossible to consolidate channels the common sense way.

The first thing you would think to get rid of in a combined compay is redundant channels. And I'm not even talking about the 60s or 70s channels - I mean 100% duplicates, like CNN and FOX News. But they can't get rid of them because none of the almost 20 million radios out there can pick up channels from the other company.

So they are stuck with the current lineup for the foreseeable future. That's why the new a la carte plans are such a load of shit. You can't truly pick and choose what you want, and you can't get more than a dozen channels from Sirius on current XM radios and vice versa.

This merger sucks balls every which way possible for the consumer.

[Blue Heeler]

All I need are Squizz, Liquid Metal and Virus.

[XMhater]

it's a merrrrrrrrgerrrrrrrrrrrr, sam!


Thank you, Jimsy :icon_mrgr

[Wilmington WOW]

just red the article from the NY Times
Not a mention of the boys
This is sad, ofcourse they mention hoo hoo
an the NY times is a NY paper to boot.

I am sure this has been said in this thread, but I dont have the time read 13 pages.

[XMhater]

No matter what happens, satellite won't be the only game in town for too long. In the next five years or so the infrastructure for universal Wi-Fi will be in place and internet radio will compete directly with satellite. You'll be able to listen to internet radio in your car and on portable units. It won't help us too much if O&A get the boot right now, but help is on the way. Technology is exploding. This merger will give the new two-headed dog a leg up (and lifted over our heads) for the immediate future so I hope they enjoy their power. We'll have the last laugh because O&A always win in the end.

[soulman1980]

A lot of you seem concerned about your radios ability to receive channels.

I'm sure they are not going to attempt to consolidate "technology" anytime soon....

what many have you said is likely, they will kill all identical channels, and all duplicate channels (6,7,8,90's, etc).

In terms of receiving the content on your radio, they will just simulcast cross platform broadcasts on both XM and Sirius Satellites.
The only issue would be bandwidth available, but I'm sure they can ditch enough on both platforms to free up the space they need.

[soulman1980]

Oh, also....

Space Shuttle Endeavourrrrrrrrrrrrrr last night undocked from the International Space Station at the end of a 12-day stay at the outpost and in anticipation of a landing tomorrow at Florida's Kennedy Space Center.

[Sevenyars]

;2519790]Here's why I think, "Everything's gonna be ok..."

1. Mel is now in charge of a company that is a far cry from when Howard was in his heyday when he had as much as 12 million listeners. Gone are the days when syndicating Howard throughout the country could pay the bills and he knows it. Even Howard admitted that he was "shocked" that more of his listeners didn't follow him to satellite. :icon_mrgr

2. Both companies are in dire financial straights, especially XM. In 2007, XM reported a loss of $682.3 million. That's WAS a 7 percent improvement over 2006, when they lost ONLY $731.7 million. That's from a company whose REVENUE was $1.14 billion in 2007. The last few years, they've been losing nearly half their gross revenue. How long do you think you can keep hemorrhaging like that without bleeding to death? :huh:

3. Sirius has been steadily gaining on XM since Howard came on board in terms of subscribers. At the end of 2007 Sirius was only about 700,000 behind XM's 9.03 million subscribers. In another year, Sirius would probably have overtaken them. :tacos:

4. Say what you want about the little doggie company, but I think they know how to market their product better since they're still gaining subscribers even after the initial Howard surge. If O&A had that kind of support from the beginning maybe XM wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. :icon_conf:

5. I'm sure the fallout from XM suspending O&A did not go unnoticed by somebody as smart as Mel. :icon_cool

6. If O&A were smaht, like people think, hopefully they had XM put language in their contract that lets them talk about Howard specifically. Hopefully one learns from their mistakes. ;)

7. With the merger finally getting approved, now XM can let O&A finally return to being fully uncensored. Handjobs for everyone! Howard is getting away with a lot more over at Sirius right now. :icon_razz

8. As far as O&A moving to afternoons I can't see that happening unless the boys decide to give up on terrestrial radio altogether. Their contract with CBS will be up and will need to be resigned before Mel becomes their "official" boss. For what it's worth, the boys, especially Ant have been saying how these hours aren't conducive to a normal lifestyle. :action-sm

9. Why does this have to be all about Howard? The way I see it, O&A are going to be exposed to 8 million new listeners. As was pointed out before, Howard and Bubba were enemies at one point but now most of the Zombies have been converted to the Church of the Love Sponge. :rolleyes:

10. I just made one hundred and sixty-five DOLLARS today! (On paper...):haha7:

P.S. Sorry for the occasional peppering of "facts" in my speculations, but I think I made up for it with my cute li'l smileys.

P.P.S Being that this has turned into a speculation thread, let me be the first to exclaim,

"O&A WERE SO MUCH BETTER WHEN THEY WERE JUST ON XM AND CBS RADIO!!!!!"[/QUOTE]


My favorite part of this post is that you tagged each point with a different smiley face. Very meticulous.

[SlimeyGoatFuckr]

just red the article from the NY Times
Not a mention of the boys
This is sad, ofcourse they mention hoo hoo
an the NY times is a NY paper to boot.

I am sure this has been said in this thread, but I dont have the time read 13 pages.
When my local news here in Denver told about the merger, they showed O&A for a good 15 seconds while the details were told.

[BeersOnTheBoat]

Why would any business get rid of any product that makes money regardless of any personal feelings? Ever notice how the howard bashing has all but stopped in the past 4 to 6 months?

If its the difference between having their current gig and doing AM radio in Des Moines they'll be on howard's show yucking it up on all of their "WWF-esq" wars over the past 12 years, how all the Rubes (you) bought it for all those years and how great this powerhouse company is going to be. Back to killing FM like they said before this FM horse shit started. There are no permanent friends and enemies in radio. They have said that THOUSANDS of times.

[frankjg]

I'm just happy that Breuer can come back on the show

[cokelogic]

I'd love an answer to this:
XM Satellite shares rose $1.97, or 16.5 percent, to $13.90 in afternoon trading after the government's announcement while Sirius shares rose 28 cents, or almost 10 percent, to $3.18
Why is Sirius taking over XM, when Sirius stock is worth 29% of XM's stock?

[Sevenyars]

I'm just happy that Breuer can come back on the show

Best post ever

[Ovaherenow]

I'd love an answer to this:

Why is Sirius taking over XM, when Sirius stock is worth 29% of XM's stock?

XM has far fewer shares in the market compared to Sirius....which is part of the reason that Sirius' stock is much lower.

However, since there is much more stock out there even at a lower price it could technically exceed the value of XM's stock. (but i'm not sure that is the case.)

[dms964]

I'd love an answer to this:

Why is Sirius taking over XM, when Sirius stock is worth 29% of XM's stock?

Sirius has been worth around 33% more than XM for a couple years until the buyout occured, there are just many more shares of Sirius around making the individual share price less. Imagine A is Sirius and B is XM. A has 7 one dollar bills and B has 1 five dollar bill. B is worth 5 times as much as A bill to bill, but A is worth more overall. When the deal was agreed to, Sirius was worth around 5 billion dollars and XM around 3.8 billion. (that's a guess done by memory)

[fallenarch]

I haven't read the all the posts, but here's what I think:

Mel: He should realize that O&A are indeed revenue (and sub) makers, and keep them in the lineup. Will he? does he hold a grudge? Is it more than money? We will soon find out...

Howard: Hey, he hasn't been as relavent since his FM days. If he is going to tell Mel to get rid of them, it's a mistake. Jeez, he got friendly with BUBBA!!! He should try to get along with O&A. Sure, the boys will probably have to switch to afternoons, but that's not real bad for SAT fans.

O&A on FM: Well, I don't think Mel is a fan of this so something has to give. I think they will have to choose between SAT and FM. That may make it interesting. Since o&a are good at regular FM, they may just want to compete with Mel and Howard. They could call themselves the alternative to SAT radio and may be happy with that.

"Can't we all just get along?"

[Bacon]

O&A on FM: Well, I don't think Mel is a fan of this so something has to give. I think they will have to choose between SAT and FM. That may make it interesting. Since o&a are good at regular FM, they may just want to compete with Mel and Howard. They could call themselves the alternative to SAT radio and may be happy with that.


Bubba is allowed to do FM in the mornings.

And FM only would suck. They've done some great stuff on XM and the FM portion is so watered down...

[fandango86]

Does anyone know whether the boys have re-signed with CBS/Citadel yet?

[WOWmagnet]

People are cunts.

Well, 51% of them are anyway.:)

[cokelogic]

Sirius has been worth around 33% more than XM for a couple years until the buyout occured, there are just many more shares of Sirius around making the individual share price less. Imagine A is Sirius and B is XM. A has 7 one dollar bills and B has 1 five dollar bill. B is worth 5 times as much as A bill to bill, but A is worth more overall. When the deal was agreed to, Sirius was worth around 5 billion dollars and XM around 3.8 billion. (that's a guess done by memory)Thank you for explaining that quit well. And that would explain how Sirius came up with $5 billion to buy a company, it's everything they're worth to buy a company and they get it right back, hence a merge.

[buckeyefan78]

The word is that O and A will join the Howard 100 channel and fill the 12-4 time slot while Bubba will more to 4-8 ...

[Dr. Hoffman]

The word is that O and A will join the Howard 100 channel and fill the 12-4 time slot while Bubba will more to 4-8 ...

And your source is? I'm calling bull shit on this one.

[cokelogic]

O&A on FM: Well, I don't think Mel is a fan of this so something has to give. I think they will have to choose between SAT and FM. That may make it interesting. Since o&a are good at regular FM, they may just want to compete with Mel and Howard. They could call themselves the alternative to SAT radio and may be happy with that.
You're so right, Mel has come out against a show being on FM and SAT. This is why he's an out of touch douche bag that should be diagnosed with untreatable cancer.

So here's my take on it. If O&A go FM only, I'm back to listening to syndication underground, since they aren't on in Chicago; which sucks. If O&A go XM only, I can listen to the show and be selfish and happy, but they'll blow their exposer they are getting from the casual listener, from being on unpaid radio.

I'd love for higher ups to address what would be the fate of the show in a post-merger world.

[cokelogic]

The word is that O and A will join the Howard 100 channel and fill the 12-4 time slot while Bubba will more to 4-8 ...Your first post is total bullshit. Unwelcome to wackbag. :icon_neut

And your source is? I'm calling bull shit on this one.His source is meatspin, I saw it in another thread. :icon_mrgr

[TheTruth]

I have just found out that the only reason for the Sirius and XM merger is that Mel and Howard wanted to fuck over O&A again.
GIVE ME A FUCKIN BREAK.

You all will be happy when you are listing to your NFL team, With your hometown anouncers, five states away.

Football on the radio is the dumbest thing EVER. I don't know about anyone else but Sunday's I'm home or at the game WATCHING it.

Baseball there are so many games it makes sence to have it on the radio because you can't always be home for it.

[cokelogic]

Does anyone know whether the boys have re-signed with CBS/Citadel yet?I thought Opie let slip that "Ant was getting a raise soon" when they were talking about money a few weeks ago, but there has been no public confirmation about re-signing.

But my feel is that they will re-sign since the merger wouldn't happen for a good while. I'm guessing they'll re-sign for at least another year, minimum.

[TheTruth]

O&A on FM: Well, I don't think Mel is a fan of this so something has to give. I think they will have to choose between SAT and FM. That may make it interesting. Since o&a are good at regular FM, they may just want to compete with Mel and Howard. They could call themselves the alternative to SAT radio and may be happy with that.

"Can't we all just get along?"

Mel isn't a fan of "sharing content" but they broadcast Football games on both Sirius and regular radio.

[Bacon]

I thought Opie let slip that "Ant was getting a raise soon" when they were talking about money a few weeks ago, but there has been no public confirmation about re-signing.

But my feel is that they will re-sign since the merger wouldn't happen for a good while. I'm guessing they'll re-sign for at least another year, minimum.

I thought it was just that he didn't have to pay the ex-wife anymore. Or that he didn't have to give a girlfriend money anymore...

[d0uche_n0zzle]

I thought it was just that he didn't have to pay the ex-wife anymore.

Some things he still can't or won't talk about. I'm guessing his lawyer told him STFU on the air.

[STARTSOMETHING]

And your source is? I'm calling bull shit on this one.


His source is "being a troll"

[UsedLadBag]

The word is that O and A will join the Howard 100 channel and fill the 12-4 time slot while Bubba will more to 4-8 ...

And your source is? I'm calling bull shit on this one.

Your first post is total bullshit. Unwelcome to wackbag. :icon_neut

His source is meatspin, I saw it in another thread. :icon_mrgr

I'd like to take credit for that thread, which is now gone but it was fun fishing while it lasted.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g173/apoptosis69/2000posts.jpg

[Limbeck]

I am too lazy to read 14 pages worth to see if this was posted yet... so yes that's my apology in advance if this is a repost.

Clear Channel wants to censor satellite radio.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/25/clear-channel-wants-the-fcc-to-force-xm-sirius-to-obey-indecen/

[BrotherMan]

i could easily download the show for FREE online and if this merger fucks with me in anyway im canceling my subscribtion and saving the money

[Arch Stanton]

You're so right, Mel has come out against a show being on FM and SAT. This is why he's an out of touch douche bag that should be diagnosed with untreatable cancer.

So here's my take on it. If O&A go FM only, I'm back to listening to syndication underground, since they aren't on in Chicago; which sucks. If O&A go XM only, I can listen to the show and be selfish and happy, but they'll blow their exposer they are getting from the casual listener, from being on unpaid radio.

I'd love for higher ups to address what would be the fate of the show in a post-merger world.

Got ya, but XM166 is based on simulcasting terrestrial show.

[Mike]

The TRUTH is that there is NO WAY O&A get their own station. There is no need for three "Shock Jock" stations.

As much as you all hate Howard, he is the bigger draw no matter what you think. As much as I may hate to admit it, it's his show.

My gut tells me they offer O&A Afternoons on Howard 100, which is what Mel wanted in the good ole' days. Howard in the AM, O&A in the afternoons.

While I would be totally fine and happy with this, my feeling is that O&A would not want to be under the Howard umbrella. I think their egos would be in the way, and that they think they are bigger than that.

If they are offered to be on Howard 100, I hope they take it. It's just a station name, and honestly, it would be better than them leaving sattelite.

[UsedLadBag]

I am too lazy to read 14 pages worth to see if this was posted yet... so yes that's my apology in advance if this is a repost.

Clear Channel wants to censor satellite radio.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/25/clear-channel-wants-the-fcc-to-force-xm-sirius-to-obey-indecen/

Fuck Clear Channel in it's fuckhole.

[TheTruth]

The TRUTH is that there is NO WAY O&A get their own station. There is no need for three "Shock Jock" stations.

As much as you all hate Howard, he is the bigger draw no matter what you think. As much as I may hate to admit it, it's his show.

My gut tells me they offer O&A Afternoons on Howard 100, which is what Mel wanted in the good ole' days. Howard in the AM, O&A in the afternoons.

While I would be totally fine and happy with this, my feeling is that O&A would not want to be under the Howard umbrella. I think their egos would be in the way, and that they think they are bigger than that.

If they are offered to be on Howard 100, I hope they take it. It's just a station name, and honestly, it would be better than them leaving sattelite.

WRONG

[Mike]

WRONG


Good answer with a lot of facts!

Can you honestly convince me that they are going to offer three Shock Jock channels that can't fill a whole day worth of content?

202, besides O&A is average at best

Howard 100, besides Howard is average at best

Howard 101 is crap

Besides the shows, it's reruns. It's a waste. A new station will be Howard, Bubba, Ron and Fez and O&A.... Or that is what will be offered.

[Freese]

As much as you all hate Howard, he is the bigger draw no matter what you think.


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[TheTruth]

Good answer with a lot of facts!

Can you honestly convince me that they are going to offer three Shock Jock channels that can't fill a whole day worth of content?

202, besides O&A is average at best

Howard 100, besides Howard is average at best

Howard 101 is crap

Besides the shows, it's reruns. It's a waste. A new station will be Howard, Bubba, Ron and Fez and O&A.... Or that is what will be offered.

Holy Shit go easy with all those "facts" you just threw at me I can only process so many "facts" at once.

Three shock jock station? Try 2, Howard 101 is a joke, they can get rid of that if they want.

XM 202 stays the same, Howards stupid station stays the same. The reruns are there because not everyone gets up at 6 and miss a bulk of the show.

And Bubba is below average, Ron and Fez are the same as O&A above average.

[Mike]

Holy Shit go easy with all those "facts" you just threw at me I can only process so many "facts" at once.

Three shock jock station? Try 2, Howard 101 is a joke, they can get rid of that if they want.

XM 202 stays the same, Howards stupid station stays the same. The reruns are there because not everyone gets up at 6 and miss a bulk of the show.

And Bubba is below average, Ron and Fez are the same as O&A above average.

You see NO SCENARIO where they tell O&A that they are now under the Howard 100 umbrella or only on Terrestrial radio? I think even O&A would agree that there is a chance this may happen.

[buckeyefan78]

Hey guys i posted earlier about the schedule rumor i heard about. Some questioned my source but my source is actually very credible. I have a relative that works for XM in NYC.. This is what he is telling me is the word over at XM.. Howard 100 would air Howard Stern from 6-11 Wrap Up Show from 11-12 Opie and Anthony from 12-4 then over on Howard 101 Bubba The Love Sponge from 4-8 that is the tentative scheduling they are working on..

[TheTruth]

Hey guys i posted earlier about the schedule rumor i heard about. Some questioned my source but my source is actually very credible. I have a relative that works for XM in NYC.. This is what he is telling me is the word over at XM.. Howard 100 would air Howard Stern from 6-11 Wrap Up Show from 11-12 Opie and Anthony from 12-4 then over on Howard 101 Bubba The Love Sponge from 4-8 that is the tentative scheduling they are working on..

Talking to yourself in the mirror doesn't count as a source

[buckeyefan78]

Hey beleive what you want...

[Dr. Hoffman]

Hey guys i posted earlier about the schedule rumor i heard about. Some questioned my source but my source is actually very credible. I have a relative that works for XM in NYC.. This is what he is telling me is the word over at XM.. Howard 100 would air Howard Stern from 6-11 Wrap Up Show from 11-12 Opie and Anthony from 12-4 then over on Howard 101 Bubba The Love Sponge from 4-8 that is the tentative scheduling they are working on..

Right.

[bb1mobile]

I'd like to take credit for that thread, which is now gone but it was fun fishing while it lasted.


It's not gone, just moved to bizarro due to
the posts it gathered overnight. It's still open
for posting.

[buckeyefan78]

i dont know if it will come to frution but right now that is what they are leaning towards once the merger is complete

[Dr. Hoffman]

i dont know if it will come to frution but right now that is what they are leaning towards once the merger is complete

I actually just talked to my cousins, sisters, former boyfriends college roomate and he said your a douche.

[caniseeyourtaint]

So Bubba gets his own station but OnA and Howie share one? Highly unlikely. Bubba is a cunt.

[buckeyefan78]

No you cant see my taint, but Bubba is already on 101 by himself.. They cant put O and A on 101 during the day because it runs the west coast feed of the howard stern show.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Hey guys i posted earlier about the schedule rumor i heard about. Some questioned my source but my source is actually very credible. I have a relative that works for XM in NYC.. This is what he is telling me is the word over at XM.. Howard 100 would air Howard Stern from 6-11 Wrap Up Show from 11-12 Opie and Anthony from 12-4 then over on Howard 101 Bubba The Love Sponge from 4-8 that is the tentative scheduling they are working on..

Hey moron - how are we supposed to get O&A on this bullshit channel lineup that you pulled out of your ass? There are no XM radios in existence that can receive Howard 100.

Troll more gooder next time :fu:

[Bacon]

Hey guys i posted earlier about the schedule rumor i heard about. Some questioned my source but my source is actually very credible. I have a relative that works for XM in NYC.. This is what he is telling me is the word over at XM.. Howard 100 would air Howard Stern from 6-11 Wrap Up Show from 11-12 Opie and Anthony from 12-4 then over on Howard 101 Bubba The Love Sponge from 4-8 that is the tentative scheduling they are working on..

I really doubt that they're already working on the scheduling for Howard 100 at this point.

Opie seemed pretty adamant about not being on one of Howard's channels, so who knows. He's been wrong in the past. I don't know how anyone can dispute that Howard is a bigger draw than O&A though...

[JPetrucci23]

um, you do realize that they already released what the post-merger channel lineups would be, right? The Virus is staying as its own channel.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/xms-postmerger.html <---XM post merger lineup
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sirius-postmerger-line-up.html <--Sirius post merger lineup
(those are real links, no meatspin there)

I apologize if this was posted, didn't read all 15 pages.

[RolfNetherlands]

Well, well.

Those naughty boys at the DOJ. How dare they. Fuck em all.

[buckeyefan78]

Ok yes i know of those pricing plans but what does that have to do with the content of whats on the channels? Beleive me or not the talk right now is that O and A will be on Howard 100 12-4

[JPetrucci23]

Ok yes i know of those pricing plans but what does that have to do with the content of whats on the channels? Beleive me or not the talk right now is that O and A will be on Howard 100 12-4


because if you look at the lineup, you will see that The Virus is going to remain a channel, and Howard 100/101 will remain channels. So what, they are gonna have The Virus for Ron & Fez and move O&A to a Howard channel?

[Bacon]

Why are people so upset about O&A being exposed to a bigger audience? If they do as well as they say on XM, they have nothing to worry about.

[Bill Lehecka]

I actually just talked to my cousins, sisters, former boyfriends college roomate and he said your a douche.

"What's that make us???"

"ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!!"

[cokelogic]

Why are people so upset about O&A being exposed to a bigger audience? If they do as well as they say on XM, they have nothing to worry about.That little question has a very long answer.

[buckeyefan78]

i didnt scroll down that far.. well maybe its not set in stone.. i dont know just telling you what i heard from someone that works for xm

[STARTSOMETHING]

um, you do realize that they already released what the post-merger channel lineups would be, right? The Virus is staying as its own channel.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/xms-postmerger.html <---XM post merger lineup
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sirius-postmerger-line-up.html <--Sirius post merger lineup
(those are real links, no meatspin there)

I apologize if this was posted, didn't read all 15 pages.



You should delete this post. the rumors are getting better and better. :haha7:

It says the virus under premium entertainment

Even ala carte says o and a the virus 3 bucks.

Or we can keep listening to the zombie bullshit!

[UsedLadBag]

It's not gone, just moved to bizarro due to
the posts it gathered overnight. It's still open
for posting.

Oh! thank you sir for the update.

[buckeyefan78]

Lol That may have been the case when these links were put up but you know nothing ever changes right? Everything is set in stone.. Come on man wake up how old are you?? I dont know how many times i have heard companies say things and then things change, what world do you live in??

[JPetrucci23]

i didnt scroll down that far.. well maybe its not set in stone.. i dont know just telling you what i heard from someone that works for xm

no offense, i'm really not trying to sound like a dick, but I'll take the official release from the companies over that. should you end up being right, more power to ya.

[buckeyefan78]

Same to you if you are..

[thewizardjy]

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/25/clear-channel-wants-the-fcc-to-force-xm-sirius-to-obey-indecen/

Lol new fun in the sirius/xm merger

[Jef Leppard]

i love this

[STARTSOMETHING]

Lol That may have been the case when these links were put up but you know nothing ever changes right? Everything is set in stone.. Come on man wake up how old are you?? I dont know how many times i have heard companies say things and then things change, what world do you live in??


And I heard from someone who posts on wackbag that your a douche.

I actually just talked to my cousins, sisters, former boyfriends college roomate and he said your a douche.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

um, you do realize that they already released what the post-merger channel lineups would be, right? The Virus is staying as its own channel.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/xms-postmerger.html <---XM post merger lineup
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sirius-postmerger-line-up.html <--Sirius post merger lineup
(those are real links, no meatspin there)

I apologize if this was posted, didn't read all 15 pages.

Those just say when you get XM Everything + Select Sirius you get 11 top selections from Sirius. Do you get to pick those 11 channels?

[buckeyefan78]

My feeling on this is that the FCC will meet Clear Channel half way. Just like cable you dont hear cussing ect on like TNT or WTBS or USA... You wont hear it on the normal broadcasting of Satellite Radio.. If you order cable and want to hear the cussing and see the nudity yuo pay extra on top of your cable bill for HBO ect.. Thats what they will make you do for Howard Stern and O and A and the channels that will broadcast content of that nature..

[JPetrucci23]

Those just say when you get XM Everything + Select Sirius you get 11 top selections from Sirius. Do you get to pick those 11 channels?


I hope so. If so, thats the plan I wanna have so I can add the NFL channel to my existing lineup.

[buckeyefan78]

I'm a douche because i am just letting you guys know of something i heard from someone i know that works for XM????? Why is that far fetched? You dont think the people that work for these Satellite companies have relatives or friends???

[cokelogic]

um, you do realize that they already released what the post-merger channel lineups would be, right? The Virus is staying as its own channel.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/xms-postmerger.html <---XM post merger lineup
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sirius-postmerger-line-up.html <--Sirius post merger lineup
(those are real links, no meatspin there)

I apologize if this was posted, didn't read all 15 pages.The bad news, O&A are going to be tucked away on premium again. Fuckin' christ! :icon_mad:

The good news is that Stern is going to be on premium and they're bilking those "fans" for $6 a month to listen to that shite. :haha7:

[buckeyefan78]

Probably because it's 2 channels vs 1 channel...

[cokelogic]

I'm a douche because i am just letting you guys know of something i heard from someone i know that works for XM????? Why is that far fetched? You dont think the people that work for these Satellite companies have relatives or friends???Please just go away.

Everyone is well aware of what you're doing. It's nothing new.

We will not engage you in any debates. That would just give you a reason to keep posting.

Do everyone a favor and just walk away.

[buckeyefan78]

What is it that i'm doing? I've been listening to O and A for years now... I also a big fan of yours cokelogic... been hearing about the wackbag site for a while and since i felt i had something to add i figured i would join, so whats the problem?

[Hog's Big Ben]

Those just say when you get XM Everything + Select Sirius you get 11 top selections from Sirius. Do you get to pick those 11 channels?

Nope. Existing radios can't do the a la carte. Sorry. This merger isn't for you. Bend over and let Mel push it in a little further.

What is it that i'm doing? I've been listening to O and A for years now... I also a big fan of yours cokelogic... been hearing about the wackbag site for a while and since i felt i had something to add i figured i would join, so whats the problem?

The problem is, you're a cunt.

[Sidekick Dave]

What is it that i'm doing? I've been listening to O and A for years now... I also a big fan of yours cokelogic... been hearing about the wackbag site for a while and since i felt i had something to add i figured i would join, so whats the problem?
Even I know better...


Just go away. I don't want to hear it. Nor does anyone else here!

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Nope. Existing radios can't do the a la carte. Sorry. This merger isn't for you. Bend over and let Mel push it in a little further.


I don't care. There's nothing on Sirius I want anyway.

[asswiper]

You guys saying that O&A are going on after Howard are full of shit. I have a friend who knows this guy whose brother has heard of XM, and he says Mancow is going on after Howie, O&A after Bubba, and to fill up the rest of the day will be The Phillips File.

But thats just from my source. His name is George. Whats your sources name?

[buckeyefan78]

Mike

[Hog's Big Ben]

I don't care. There's nothing on Sirius I want anyway.

Then why did you ask?

Mike

Hunt?

[STARTSOMETHING]

What is it that i'm doing? I've been listening to O and A for years now... I also a big fan of yours cokelogic... been hearing about the wackbag site for a while and since i felt i had something to add i figured i would join, so whats the problem?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

[UsedLadBag]

...and I think it needs to be said that I like turtles.

[buckeyefan78]

Well that's just a bunch of bull shit..

[dms964]

Nope. Existing radios can't do the a la carte. Sorry. This merger isn't for you. Bend over and let Mel push it in a little further.





Existing radios may be able to do the a la carte at least to a small extent. It's not too difficult to image them also broadcasting Stern and a couple other Sirius channels to XM units for those willing to pay an additional fee and the same thing for XM to Sirius units. The won't be able to offer alot, but it's not difficult to imagine a dozen or so of the most popular channels to be offered on both signals for those willing to pay.
Both signals will exist separately for at least 2-3 years, but many people will switch units ASAP. Sirius will want to sign up as many people as possible services, so I'd expect some pretty good offers for radios for those willing to exchange.

[steve55]

It's not too difficult to image them also broadcasting Stern and a couple other Sirius channels to XM units for those willing to pay an additional fee and the same thing for XM to Sirius units.

It's also not hard to imagine how the ALREADY maxed out borderline sound-quality is going to get even worse. It's OK though, because we can all "just cancel" and use MP3 players and it's EXACTLY the same as satellite radio.

[mikey]

how much power/influence does hoo hoo have in determining the programming with this merger?

[nneptune]

I'm pretty pissed about this whole thing.
Long before OnA joined XM, i purposely chose their service over Sirius. I really want nothing to do with that company, Mel, and especially hoo.
Oh well, I'll just wait to see what happens, thogh I already canceled one of my subs, we'll see about the others.

[xm allday]

so if I keep the existing xm unit I have, and keep the same price plan I have, where is the problem? I dont care about Howard or NFL. We sill have the same music choices, the boys, and news and sports. Where is the fucking problem? XM is its own service and so is sirius...

[oandapartycock]

No, they're not.

The link you provided is for a $1500 home unit that has the ability to control, and display information from, a satellite radio unit (which still needs to be purchased separately). It's not truly interoperable, and it sure the fuck isn't portable.

Dual-receiver radios are still not available.

Actually, I think it's this one. And it's only $360:
http://astore.amazon.com/science-books-20/detail/B000TDZCOM
XM Satellite Radio Ready with OSD - XM subscription and antenna required
SIRIUS Satellite Radio Ready with OSD - Sirius Subscription and antenna required

It does require the purchase of XM's Connect and Play Antenna and Sirius's equivalent to be able to pick up the satellite signal.

And yeah, it's not portable either but I'm sure the prototypes have already been made.

[OandA420]

I can not fucking believe this, its bullshit!!

O&A never lose though, we will find a way to come back. O&A win again! Who cares that 3/4 of pests sent letters and shit trying to stop it, we still win!!!

[ruckstande]

This is fucking gay. Will they stay on in the mornings? Who knows? The only thing I'm actually looking forward to is the inevitable "Who do you listen to the most on Sirius" poll.

[The Truth Bell]

Really? You think an overall outdated medium will never be as popular as one of the top, most exciting and ever-changing forms of media ever? That's like saying "I don't think this graphing calculator will be as big as the internet."

I don't understand your point.

This was mine:

No matter what happens, satellite won't be the only game in town for too long. In the next five years or so the infrastructure for universal Wi-Fi will be in place and internet radio will compete directly with satellite. You'll be able to listen to internet radio in your car and on portable units. It won't help us too much if O&A get the boot right now, but help is on the way. Technology is exploding. This merger will give the new two-headed dog a leg up (and lifted over our heads) for the immediate future so I hope they enjoy their power. We'll have the last laugh because O&A always win in the end.

Why would people pay monthly for Satellite when they could get the entire Internet in their cars and on the run?

Plus you can get XM on the Internet. All you'd need is the account and password. So basically XM and Sirius would just be an Internet radio station that charges extra for the service.

Eventually Stern and O&A will just be a paid podcast.

[distortion9]

just cuntflaps

[The Truth Bell]

Ok yes i know of those pricing plans but what does that have to do with the content of whats on the channels? Beleive me or not the talk right now is that O and A will be on Howard 100 12-4

Do you honestly think that O&A priced at $3.00 and Stern priced at $6.00 are going to be on the same channel at different times?

That would really complicate the process of having one without the other.

It would be much easier to give them their own channels.

Plus, they're both premium packages. They warrant their own channels.

[XMhater]

I don't understand your point.

This was mine:



Why would people pay monthly for Satellite when they could get the entire Internet in their cars and on the run?

Plus you can get XM on the Internet. All you'd need is the account and password. So basically XM and Sirius would just be an Internet radio station that charges extra for the service.

Eventually Stern and O&A will just be a paid podcast.

Presisely, sir! And thanks for quoting me. It makes me feel worthwhile instead of like a silly goose. :D

[The Truth Bell]

It's also not hard to imagine how the ALREADY maxed out borderline sound-quality is going to get even worse. It's OK though, because we can all "just cancel" and use MP3 players and it's EXACTLY the same as satellite radio.

Wrong. My iPod sounds much better than my XM unit.

[DJ Evel Ed]

Someone please help...

How much will I have to pay if I only want:

Howard
O&A
Ron&Fez
Ferrall
ANY news channel
Audio Visions (for Sweety)

Is this an ALA Carte situation or what? That's all the satellite radio I'll ever need.

[XMhater]

Someone please help...

How much will I have to pay if I only want:

Howard
O&A
Ron&Fez
Ferrall
ANY news channel
Audio Visions (for Sweety)

Is this an ALA Carte situation or what? That's all the satellite radio I'll ever need.

You wish! I don't know a lot but I do know THIS: The ala carte will be set up a lot like the options packages on cars which means it will be confusing, cost you a butt-load of money and you're certain to have to take a bunch of corn-infested shit to get the channels you actually want. Not that I'm being negative or anything. :arrrh:

[Vic Mackey]

The bad news, O&A are going to be tucked away on premium again. Fuckin' christ! :icon_mad:

The good news is that Stern is going to be on premium and they're bilking those "fans" for $6 a month to listen to that shite. :haha7:

If you keep you existing XM service as is, you get all of your current programming. The premium services are only if you want some a la carte Sirius premium (Howard) programming and you are an XM sub, or if you want some XM premium (O&A) programming if you are a Sirius subscriber. From what I get from it, most everything will stay the same as far as channels and services, just if you want you can add some stuff from Sirius.

[Xero1]

Someone please help...

How much will I have to pay if I only want:

Howard
O&A
Ron&Fez
Ferrall
ANY news channel
Audio Visions (for Sweety)

Is this an ALA Carte situation or what? That's all the satellite radio I'll ever need.

Perhaps I can clear some things up.

Ala carte programming will not necessarily mean you get to pick and choose between channels on both services. The ala carte applies only to programing on each service along with premium packages. Also only next generation receivers will be able to use the ala carte function.

Sirius and XM will offer 10-15 slots on their current line-up for each the others service. Sirius will make 10-15 of their flagship programming channels available for XM subscribers and vice-versa. Only subscribers who select the Everything + Select service will get the option to receive this on current receivers.

So to get the select Sirius programming with your current receiver you will need to subscribe to the Everything XM and select Sirius package for $16.99

Neither service has announced what these select programming stations will be BUT I think we all have a fairly good idea.

Also the new generation of receivers while offering ala carte options several models will likely be dual receivers meaning they can pickup both signals and the company will offer an Everything package priced between $20-$24

[mascan42]

For those that are wondering why we're so worried, I'd like to point something out: Mel has made it clear that certain channels of each service will be made available to the subscribers of the other service. Now if the so-called "hybrid" radios that will receive both services were available, this would be no problem.

But they don't exist. The DOJ even said there appears to be no hybrid radio coming in the near future.

Oddly enough, even though it means the companies violated an FCC mandate to develop such radios, the DOJ saw this a a POSITIVE thing, since it would force the two companies to continue to operate separately to some extent.

So if XM subscribers are going to hear Sirius content or vice versa, it will have to be one of two ways:

1. New channels will be added to each service. Since the bandwidth is already at the point where the traffic channels sound like the 1969 moon landing, I find this extremely unlikely.

2. The channels people have been listening to and enjoy will be replaced by channels from the other service. And since Sirius is the controlling partner in this "merger", it's probably the XM channels that will be dumped.

This is where our paranoia lies. Considering Mel's contentious past with O&A, there's a real chance that he might drop them in favor of a cheaper show that's more willing to get along with management. Yes, he'll have to leave them on until their current contract runs out. But in the meantime, he's also proven in the past that he has no problem muzzling his employees when it suits him.

So, worst case, we get a castrated O&A for the next year or so, and then the show's gone.

Best case, Mel gets hit by a bus.

[Xero1]

For those that are wondering why we're so worried, I'd like to point something out: Mel has made it clear that certain channels of each service will be made available to the subscribers of the other service. Now if the so-called "hybrid" radios that will receive both services were available, this would be no problem.

But they don't exist. The DOJ even said there appears to be no hybrid radio coming in the near future.

Oddly enough, even though it means the companies violated an FCC mandate to develop such radios, the DOJ saw this a a POSITIVE thing, since it would force the two companies to continue to operate separately to some extent.

So if XM subscribers are going to hear Sirius content or vice versa, it will have to be one of two ways:

1. New channels will be added to each service. Since the bandwidth is already at the point where the traffic channels sound like the 1969 moon landing, I find this extremely unlikely.

2. The channels people have been listening to and enjoy will be replaced by channels from the other service. And since Sirius is the controlling partner in this "merger", it's probably the XM channels that will be dumped.

This is where our paranoia lies. Considering Mel's contentious past with O&A, there's a real chance that he might drop them in favor of a cheaper show that's more willing to get along with management. Yes, he'll have to leave them on until their current contract runs out. But in the meantime, he's also proven in the past that he has no problem muzzling his employees when it suits him.

So, worst case, we get a castrated O&A for the next year or so, and then the show's gone.

Best case, Mel gets hit by a bus.

1. Not the case. Both services have enough bandwidth to add additional programming slots. The traffic stations poor quality is not due to lack of bandwidth.

2. This true to a point. Many duplicate and similar channels will be conglomerated to lower operating costs. You will likely get the same 60's channel on each service and so on. This is true of the weather and traffic as well. However; exclusive music programming like XM Led will not be altered. It doesn't make sense to program 20 channels playing the same music for each service. It also doesn't make sense to program the same traffic and weather separately for each service.

Do not worry about V202 it will continue to be offered by XM and is a premium package flagship in the ala carte programming. It will likely be added to the select XM programming for Sirius listeners as well.

[WOWBrian]

Best case, Mel gets hit by a bus.

That would be a send us an offering-praise jesus type of miracle

[DJ Evel Ed]

Will O&A fans, who want to hear Howie, need to spend more money than we do now?

If the stock levels out to 8.00. the price should be 8.00.
Hoo Hoo's show is what, 3.00?
Thats 11.00 which is cheaper so I might do that. No fuckin way I'm paying more than what I'm paying now on XM for Howard.

[oandapartycock]

1. Not the case. Both services have enough bandwidth to add additional programming slots. The traffic stations poor quality is not due to lack of bandwidth.

2. This true to a point. Many duplicate and similar channels will be conglomerated to lower operating costs. You will likely get the same 60's channel on each service and so on. This is true of the weather and traffic as well. However; exclusive music programming like XM Led will not be altered. It doesn't make sense to program 20 channels playing the same music for each service. It also doesn't make sense to program the same traffic and weather separately for each service.

Do not worry about V202 it will continue to be offered by XM and is a premium package flagship in the ala carte programming. It will likely be added to the select XM programming for Sirius listeners as well.

How can you say the traffic channels aren't heavily compressed? It's obvious to anyone who has messed around with encoding mp3's that it's probably around 2bits per second (ok, perhaps a bit more than that...)

The thing I don't think people are understanding is that when XM and Sirius merge, you won't by getting ANY Sirius signal. Period. But you may get Sirius programming streamed to your device in the same way you're able to hear ESPN on your radio.

The trick is going to see how much bandwidth is really available AND what new compression algorithms they are going to be able to develop to increase capacity.

Back when they bought the spectrum back in 1997, it was "speculated" that they would be able to support 30 national channels. But now in 2008 there's over 150, largely because of advances in technologies.

Bottom line is, if Mel sees there's demand for Howard on XM and/or O&A on Sirius, he'll most likely eliminate the lowest rated channels. As I've said before, he'll be the new prez of a company that is bleeding money, not a highly successful radio conglomerate that didn't have Ipods and intenet to compete with back then like it is now.

[ChuckiesChalupa]

How can you say the traffic channels aren't heavily compressed? It's obvious to anyone who has messed around with encoding mp3's that it's probably around 2bits per second (ok, perhaps a bit more than that...)

The thing I don't think people are understanding is that when XM and Sirius merge, you won't by getting ANY Sirius signal. Period. But you may get Sirius programming streamed to your device in the same way you're able to hear ESPN on your radio.

The trick is going to see how much bandwidth is really available AND what new compression algorithms they are going to be able to develop to increase capacity.

Back when they bought the spectrum back in 1997, it was "speculated" that they would be able to support 30 national channels. But now in 2008 there's over 150, largely because of advances in technologies.

Bottom line is, if Mel sees there's demand for Howard on XM and/or O&A on Sirius, he'll most likely eliminate the lowest rated channels. As I've said before, he'll be the new prez of a company that is bleeding money, not a highly successful radio conglomerate that didn't have Ipods and intenet to compete with back then like it is now.

Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerd talk much?

Where and how might one plug a gigabyte into a floppy A: at a highspeed bitrate?

Im for real hear I am tired of streaming megabytes all over my defrag and scandisk...

Someone help me here please..I tried PCSUPPORT.com and they told my my hardrive had some kind of software right here on my pc??!!????!!!

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[pumples]

Here's my own little speculation that no one will give a shit about. I don't think Mel is going to ditch O&A or even bother with them. I think he knows they have a very strong following and bring a shitload of money in to XM. Why screw with that?

I also believe that we'll be able to hear Sirius content on our current radios. If we couldn't then what would be the benefit of this. They'll probably just scratch all the redundant music channels to free up bandwidth and give the consumer the option to add selected Sirius content.

Anyway that's what regular Joe has to say about it. I'll let the big whigs work out all the technical details. Regular Joe realy is a douche.

[Arch Stanton]

Here's my own little speculation that no one will give a shit about. I don't think Mel is going to ditch O&A or even bother with them. I think he knows they have a very strong following and bring a shitload of money in to XM. Why screw with that?

I also believe that we'll be able to hear Sirius content on our current radios. If we couldn't then what would be the benefit of this. They'll probably just scratch all the redundant music channels to free up bandwidth and give the consumer the option to add selected Sirius content.

Anyway that's what regular Joe has to say about it. I'll let the big whigs work out all the technical details. Regular Joe realy is a douche.

I like this guy. Great post. Do it more often.

[TOM CHARLESTON]

Hey guys i posted earlier about the schedule rumor i heard about. Some questioned my source but my source is actually very credible. I have a relative that works for XM in NYC.. This is what he is telling me is the word over at XM.. Howard 100 would air Howard Stern from 6-11 Wrap Up Show from 11-12 Opie and Anthony from 12-4 then over on Howard 101 Bubba The Love Sponge from 4-8 that is the tentative scheduling they are working on..

Retarded, Howard would quit before he lets ANYONE on H-100, maybe after his westcoast feed on H-101

[Sevenyars]

Anything less then

O and A 6-12
Ron and Fez 12-3

I'm an EX Xm subscriber.

IF 202 stays intact I should give a shit about anything else.
I am a little nervous about Bill Andersons conversation with the country stars on channel 2 every Tuesdays.

[Vyce]

Here's my own little speculation that no one will give a shit about. I don't think Mel is going to ditch O&A or even bother with them. I think he knows they have a very strong following and bring a shitload of money in to XM. Why screw with that?

I also believe that we'll be able to hear Sirius content on our current radios. If we couldn't then what would be the benefit of this. They'll probably just scratch all the redundant music channels to free up bandwidth and give the consumer the option to add selected Sirius content.
Anyway that's what regular Joe has to say about it. I'll let the big whigs work out all the technical details. Regular Joe realy is a douche.

And I got a problem with THIS.

Which channels will be considered "redundant"? There's a ton of XM channels which I love and listen to regularly, which could ultimately get the axe for Sirius' shit.

[Zeroman]

And I got a problem with THIS.

Which channels will be considered "redundant"? There's a ton of XM channels which I love and listen to regularly, which could ultimately get the axe for Sirius' shit.

the decades channels would fall under redundant as well as some of the "hit" music or pop channels

[FreeAM]

I'd love an answer to this:

Why is Sirius taking over XM, when Sirius stock is worth 29% of XM's stock?

Because the per share price isn't how you determine whose stock is worth more. The fact is that Sirius' stock is worth $4.56 billion and XM's is worth $4.28 billion. XM's stock used to be worth more than Sirius' stock, but it hasn't been worth more since October of 2004.

[FreeAM]

The TRUTH is that there is NO WAY O&A get their own station. There is no need for three "Shock Jock" stations.

As much as you all hate Howard, he is the bigger draw no matter what you think. As much as I may hate to admit it, it's his show.

My gut tells me they offer O&A Afternoons on Howard 100, which is what Mel wanted in the good ole' days. Howard in the AM, O&A in the afternoons.

While I would be totally fine and happy with this, my feeling is that O&A would not want to be under the Howard umbrella. I think their egos would be in the way, and that they think they are bigger than that.

If they are offered to be on Howard 100, I hope they take it. It's just a station name, and honestly, it would be better than them leaving sattelite.

I suspect that O&A and R&F will remain on a separate channel. Howard 100 is THSS and THSS replays 24/7. Being the most listened to channel in all of satellite radio, that’s unlikely to change. Howard 101 is THSS west coast feed (delayed 3 hours), Bubba, and Scott Ferrell, plus other miscellaneous programming. The only available timeslot on Howard 101 is overnights.

[FreeAM]

Hey moron - how are we supposed to get O&A on this bullshit channel lineup that you pulled out of your ass? There are no XM radios in existence that can receive Howard 100.

Howard 100 and Howard 101 will be simulcast on the XM sats/radios as soon as the merger is completed, but that doesn't mean that O&A will be on either of those channels like the troll is claiming.

[TheVirus]

This merger still has alot to go through before it gets the final OK....yes the justice department said it was alright...however this little thing called the "merger" still has to get past two more hurdles to become merged.

I will start worrying about the merger when all is said and a done deal. Until then I will not speculate or even throw my hat into that frame of mind. I will however cancel my xm if O&A and R&F do not stay exactly as they are.

Not speculation as I see it. Howard will be done with radio as soon as his contract is up. Mel said the only way they would keep Howard is if he stayed on for less money. Howard take a "cut" in pay? He is too much of an ego-maniac to accept those terms. So go ahead a disagree with the Howard angle, but mark my words now boys and girls, Howard won't take less money.

Long live O and A.

[oandapartycock]

Sorry Liddy, I'm not ripping you off, it's more of a weak attempt at an homage...

Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerd talk much?

Where and how might one plug a gigabyte into a floppy A: at a highspeed bitrate?

Im for real hear I am tired of streaming megabytes all over my defrag and scandisk...

Someone help me here please..I tried PCSUPPORT.com and they told my my hardrive had some kind of software right here on my pc??!!????!!!

NNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ARDsssssssssssssssssssss A

http://humormeblog.beloblog.com/archives/tucker
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS COMING OUT OF YOUR KEYBOARD?

[Hog's Big Ben]

Howard 100 and Howard 101 will be simulcast on the XM sats/radios as soon as the merger is completed, but that doesn't mean that O&A will be on either of those channels like the troll is claiming.

Howard won't be simulcast on any XM channel. He will be a premium just like O&A and you will need either one of the new non-existent dual receivers or a second radio to hear him.

The only channels that will be simulcast will be a package of about a dozen channels on either side (chosen by the company, not us via a la carte).

The technology isn't there do do what 99% of the people think will happen post-merger.

[ls1speedfreak]

I wonder how many people here have any idea what kind of possibilities the technowledgey (spelling) will aford either ideas.
We all can agree that dumping redundant studios and middle management will be the most obvious step. I don't think I see a need to drop any frequencies though.

[oandapartycock]

I like technowledgey.

[oandapartycock]

Wow

[XMhater]

Howard won't be simulcast on any XM channel. He will be a premium just like O&A and you will need either one of the new non-existent dual receivers or a second radio to hear him.

The only channels that will be simulcast will be a package of about a dozen channels on either side (chosen by the company, not us via a la carte).

The technology isn't there do do what 99% of the people think will happen post-merger.


Nah, they won't put Howie on premium right away. They'll give away the free taste to XM subs while they work on the configuration in the hopes that we'll get hooked and then shell out some more of our increasingly worthless greenbacks every month to get it on premo. Mel is a crack dealer. :rolleyes:

[Xero1]

Howard won't be simulcast on any XM channel. He will be a premium just like O&A and you will need either one of the new non-existent dual receivers or a second radio to hear him.

The only channels that will be simulcast will be a package of about a dozen channels on either side (chosen by the company, not us via a la carte).

The technology isn't there do do what 99% of the people think will happen post-merger.

The programming slots for simulcast will likely contain the other services flagship channels. The current estimate is 10-15 slots of programming. This will not cause a bandwidth issue, both companies had to show this in their public filings. If you have an XM receiver currently you will probably find Martha Stewart, Jamie Foxx and Howard in the Sirius line-up available as well as exclusive music content like Elvis Radio, Rolling Stone Radio and Shade 45.

Likewise if you have a Sirius receiver you will likely receive V202, Oprah and XM music content like Led. However; it is highly unlikely the sports play-by-play will be available without the newer receivers. So if you have a current XM receiver you may receive the NFL channel but will not get the game play-by-play.

This was mentioned in the conference calls and their public filings. Unfortunately if you want ala carte or the package with everything you will have to wait and upgrade to the new receivers. However; if you wish to receive these simulcast stations on your current receiver you will need to shell out an extra 4 bucks.

[Hog's Big Ben]

The programming slots for simulcast will likely contain the other services flagship channels. The current estimate is 10-15 slots of programming. This will not cause a bandwidth issue, both companies had to show this in their public filings. If you have an XM receiver currently you will probably find Martha Stewart, Jamie Foxx and Howard in the Sirius line-up available as well as exclusive music content like Elvis Radio, Rolling Stone Radio and Shade 45.

Likewise if you have a Sirius receiver you will likely receive V202, Oprah and XM music content like Led. However; it is highly unlikely the sports play-by-play will be available without the newer receivers. So if you have a current XM receiver you may receive the NFL channel but will not get the game play-by-play.


No you won't. Christ, this isn't complicated...

You CAN NOT do any sort of a la carte with current radios, so the simulcast package is all or nothing. Howard is a $6/month premium channel. He WILL NOT be an option on the XM Everything & Select Sirius package that only costs $4 more than the baseline subscription. Same for O&A or any of the other premium channels - they will be used as bait to get people to buy new radios and wean them off the old ones, not given away on the low-end Select package.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4811/xmpostmergerlineup1ao5.gif

Also, that News, Sports & Talk package that goes for $9.99 DOES NOT include O&A or any of the play-by-play sports channels.

[Xero1]

No you won't. Christ, this isn't complicated...

You CAN NOT do any sort of a la carte with current radios, so the simulcast package is all or nothing. Howard is a $6/month premium channel. He WILL NOT be an option on the XM Everything & Select Sirius package that only costs $4 more than the baseline subscription. Same for O&A or any of the other premium channels - they will be used as bait to get people to buy new radios and wean them off the old ones, not given away on the low-end Select package.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4811/xmpostmergerlineup1ao5.gif

Also, that News, Sports & Talk package that goes for $9.99 DOES NOT include O&A or any of the play-by-play sports channels.

I'm willing to bet money that Howard will be one of the simulcast channels for XM receivers and V202 will be a simulcast channel for Sirius receivers. The reason they are "premium" in the ala carte package is to dissuade people from going ala carte and just keep paying $12.95

They want to make current users upgrade to the XM + Select Sirius for another 4 bucks. They won't do that without simulcasting flagship programming like Howard, Oprah, V202, Martha Stewart etc.

Like I said when the merger goes through, and it will go through, I am willing to place money on both Howard 100 and 101 being on XM + Select Sirius for an additional 4 bucks.

[Hog's Big Ben]

I'm willing to bet money that Howard will be one of the simulcast channels for XM receivers and V202 will be a simulcast channel for Sirius receivers. The reason they are "premium" in the ala carte package is to dissuade people from going ala carte and just keep paying $12.95

They want to make current users upgrade to the XM + Select Sirius for another 4 bucks. They won't do that without simulcasting flagship programming like Howard, Oprah, V202, Martha Stewart etc.

Like I said when the merger goes through, and it will go through, I am willing to place money on both Howard 100 and 101 being on XM + Select Sirius for an additional 4 bucks.

I would love for you to be right, but so far nothing about this merger looks good for the consumer. The a la carte plans don't even let you pick from all the music channels, and there's no discount whatsoever for subscribing to both services, even with the dozens of redundant channels and flat out duplicates! It's a fucking joke. Everything is set up to make sure current subscribers can't save a buck or two without giving up something substantial. It's all about luring in new subs with the a la carte sham. Good business, I suppose, but it's a slap in the face to those of us that kept these two companies afloat.

Here's a little mathematic proof for why I think you're wrong. Who would pay $6/month extra for just Howard if he's available on a $4 plan that includes a dozen other channels?

[Xero1]

I would love for you to be right, but so far nothing about this merger looks good for the consumer. The a la carte plans don't even let you pick from all the music channels, and there's no discount whatsoever for subscribing to both services, even with the dozens of redundant channels and flat out duplicates! It's a fucking joke. Everything is set up to make sure current subscribers can't save a buck or two without giving up something substantial. It's all about luring in new subs with the a la carte sham. Good business, I suppose, but it's a slap in the face to those of us that kept these two companies afloat.

Actually the plan will neither negatively or positively effect the current consumer for the most part. In order to gain approval they needed to prove they would maintain the status quo for current subscribers while offering some incentives.

The main incentive is the current consumer will have some limited access to the other providers exclusive content.

However the proposed Everything (All Sirius Channels & all XM Channels) package while requiring the new dual compatible receiver will be less than currently owning two receivers and two subscriptions likely in the $21.99 range.

I know there is no way to prove to anyone 100% this is going to happen. I am just basing it on the shareholder meetings, the public filings and industry people I know in both DC and NYC.

[LastDeadMouse]

You CAN NOT do any sort of a la carte with current radios, so the simulcast package is all or nothing.

But the radios can block channels. Isn't going a la carte just the reverse version of channel blocking?

[coolyellowbus]

But the radios can block channels. Isn't going a la carte just the reverse version of channel blocking?



need new receivers to receive both systems signals.

[Hog's Big Ben]

But the radios can block channels. Isn't going a la carte just the reverse version of channel blocking?

No. Channel Blocking restricts access to every channel that has an XL flag.

When the merger was first announced, I was even more pissed than I am now because it does seem that there is technology in place to allow/disallow on a channel-by-channel basis (think back to when O&A and Playboy were separate premium options).

But every filing and article that goes into the technology aspect makes it a point to mention that the a la carte option absolutely requires different radios. If it turns out that they could do a la carte NOW, with current radios (for people who don't care about anything in the other company's lineup), then the merger is truly 100% bullshit. As it stands, it's only 99% bullshit.

[Three Hole Puncher]

Speculating assitude follows...

I think it'll take awhile for the conglomorated, mulattah, MONGREL class of company that will be the merged Sirius/XM to get around to fucking up the broadcast schedule. For probably the first year or so, the major shenanigans will most likely be taking place behind the scenes... operations and management. Heads WILL roll... lot's of heads. Anybody who works at XM D.C. should be shitting their pants and polishing up their resumes right about now. The new company will be based in Rockefeller Center... I think that's pretty much a given, and I don't imagine that any more than a handful of XM D.C. personnel will be deemed worthy to make the move North... most will probably be considered 'redundant' and have their hats handed to them.

Eventually they'll get around to fucking up the broadcast line-up and schedule, and I'm sure it'll end up being uglier than a mud fence, and a hearty "fuck you" to any subscriber who doesn't like it... "Whaddya gonna do? Cancel? Hahahaha!"

Hopefully... we'll have a good year of decent service before the wheels start to fall off... and they most certainly will... I don't think there's much doubt about that.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Speculating assitude follows...

I think it'll take awhile for the conglonorated, mulattah, MONGREL class of company that will be the merged Sirius/XM to get around to fucking up the broadcast schedule. For probably the first year or so, the major shenanigans will most likely be taking place behind the scenes... operations and management. Heads WILL roll... lot's of heads. Anybody who works at XM D.C. should be shitting their pants and polishing up their resumes right about now. The new company will be based in Rockefeller Center... I think that's pretty much a given, and I don't imagine that any more than a handful of XM D.C. personnel will be deemed worthy to make the move North... most will probably be considered 'redundant' and have their hats handed to them.

Eventually they'll get around to fucking up the broadcast line-up and schedule, and I'm sure it'll end up being uglier than a mud fence, and a hearty "fuck you" to any subscriber who doesn't like it... "Whaddya gonna do? Cancel? Hahahaha!"

Hopefully... we'll have a good year of decent service before the wheels start to fall off... and they most certainly will... I don't think there's much doubt about that.

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[WOWmagnet]

I'll just stick with XM. My stupid INNO hasn't been off ch 202 in about 2 years.

[Xero1]

But the radios can block channels. Isn't going a la carte just the reverse version of channel blocking?

This is another point to keep in mind. The ala carte option WILL NOT allow you to pick and choose between Sirius and XM channels. It will only work for the respective service. This is the case even with dual receivers.

Also not all of the receivers that will function with the new ala carte will be dual receivers. The lower end ones will only receive the Sirius or XM signal respectively.

It is my understanding that the ala carte receivers will operate differently. Yes you can currently block channels but not without logging in, contacting customer service etc. The select Sirius channels will be blocked in this manner and will be unavailable without adding them your service through customer service. These new receivers supposedly will effectively let you set your channels without contacting customer service beyond activating the radio. So if you took the pick 50 you would just go through and pick and choose after activation from the receiver itself.

[jimmyolsenblues]

sorry i am late today, did o&a talk about the merger today?

[Hog's Big Ben]

sorry i am late today, did o&a talk about the merger today?

Nope - too many in studio guests and ESD shenanigans. Op just mentioned they'll get into it tomorrow.

[Dr. Hoffman]

Nope - too many in studio guests and ESD shenanigans. Op just mentioned they'll get into it tomorrow.

Actually Opie just announced they are leaving satellite when Ant mentioned they hadn't talked about the merger.

Doomed...fucking DOOMED!!!!

[Dr. Hoffman]

Holy shit...buckeye was right. O&A ARE being moved to Howard 100. They must be already converting the channel over because I can hear the Howard Stern show intermittently during the Worst Of.

Oh man...O&A are SO fucked!!!

[oandapartycock]

No. Channel Blocking restricts access to every channel that has an XL flag.


Under the "proposed" plan, I read that you'll get a credit for each blocked XL channel you do. I think it's only .25 cents each, but I'm not that price sensitive to where saving one whole dollar by blocking four of them is going to make or break me.

[FreeAM]

Howard won't be simulcast on any XM channel. He will be a premium just like O&A and you will need either one of the new non-existent dual receivers or a second radio to hear him.

The only channels that will be simulcast will be a package of about a dozen channels on either side (chosen by the company, not us via a la carte).

The technology isn't there do do what 99% of the people think will happen post-merger.

You will see soon enough that you are wrong. Like it or not, Stern is the biggest marketable thing about satellite radio, and Mel is foaming at the mouth to be able to sell subscriptions to Stern's show to the maximum number of potential customers, which means to every person who owns a legacy XM radio. Simple economic realities dictate that Stern will be simulcast on a subscription channel on legacy XM radios, just like the O&A show used to be... the technology for at least a limited number of subscription channels exists with legacy radios. Watch and learn.

[FreeAM]

No. Channel Blocking restricts access to every channel that has an XL flag.

Wrong. The O&A show used to be blocked to non-subscribers without blocking the other XL-channels. Individual channels can be blocked. You simply don't know what you are talking about.

[Frogswell]

Somebody needs to start a rumor that Opie and Anthony are gonna become interns for Hoo Hoo's show. Or the ultimate nightmare... Howard Stern presents: Spuds Buckley.

[Bananajuice77]

As long as O&A don't get fucked with, sub price doesn't go up, and I don't have to buy any new equipment, XMSIrius will continue to have me as a subscriber. If any of these I get screwed with in a bad way, I'm out. That's how I'm looking at it.

[CJJames]

As long as O&A don't get fucked with, sub price doesn't go up, and I don't have to buy any new equipment, XMSIrius will continue to have me as a subscriber. If any of these I get screwed with in a bad way, I'm out. That's how I'm looking at it.

The jury is still out on all counts. This from AP Today:



baltimoresun.com
'A la carte' satellite radio likely requires new receivers
Associated Press

March 27, 2008

WASHINGTON

Sirius Satellite Radio and XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. are pegging regulatory approval of their merger to giving consumers more control over the specific channels they buy.

There's one catch: Customers may need new radios at up to $200 a pop if they want to be able to select specific channels, something they can't do now.

The Justice Department gave the green light Monday to Sirius' acquisition of XM and the companies are pitching the benefits of "a la carte" programming to the Federal Communications Commission, which must also sign off on the deal.

The companies would offer "the first-ever a la carte options in subscription media," they said late Monday.

XM and Sirius obtain most customers through automakers, who offer the radios and the service in new cars. But carmakers require lead times of several years to update dashboards with new products.

That lead time means that cars with radios able to select channels likely wouldn't be on dealer lots for up to three years, predicts James C. Goss, a media analyst at Barrington Research.

Thomas Barnett, assistant attorney general heading the Justice Department's Antitrust Division, said yesterday that agency officials concluded the radios would take two to three years to be available from automakers.

FCC Chairman Kevin J. Martin has expressed support for requiring cable companies to provide a la carte options and may want to set a media precedent by conditioning approval of the XM-Sirius deal on offering customers the right to choose which channels they receive, analysts said.

Still, the FCC is likely to approve the transaction because the agency has "never to our knowledge" gone against a Justice Department opinion, says Kit Spring, an analyst at Stifel Nicolaus & Co.

After the Justice Department cleared the deal this week, both companies said "no existing radio will be made obsolete by the merger." The company's 17 million subscribers would be able to receive select programming from the provider they don't currently subscribe to on existing radios, the companies said.

They haven't specified whether popular programming, such as Sirius' Howard Stern or XM's major league baseball, would be part of the "select programming" available.

XM and Sirius say they plan to offer eight options that combine the companies' offerings, such as a "mostly music" package with 65 channels, for $9.99 a month - less than the current flat rate of $12.95. Six of those eight options will be available on existing radios within six months of the deal's approval, the companies say.

The two a la carte packages that promise the most flexibility, however, will require new radios.

The cheapest option would offer 50 channels for $6.99 a month with additional channels costing 25 cents each, though premium choices, such as the NFL channel, would cost $3 or $6 each per month. Another plan would offer 100 channels for $14.99 a month.

Analysts expect few current subscribers to pay for the new receivers. Current satellite radios cost $40 to $200.

Perhaps 5 percent to 10 percent of current subscribers "might go through the trouble" of buying new radios for the "a la carte" option, Stifel Nicolaus' Spring wrote in a recent note to clients.

Spokesmen for Sirius and XM declined to comment beyond their statement because merger approval is pending before the FCC.

When the two companies started a decade ago, the FCC approved their launch with a requirement that they design interoperable radios, which the companies say they have done. But until now there was little incentive to invest in making the design commercially available.



Copyright © 2008, The Baltimore Sun

[dms964]

A reason people here should hope this deal goes through:

"NEW YORK (AP) -- Standard & Poor's said Wednesday its ratings for XM Satellite Radio remain on "credit watch," after the Justice Department signed off on its acquisition of Sirius Satellite Radio.
S&P said it is keeping the company's ratings under surveillance "with implications," due to questions about how the company would refinance its debt if the Sirius buyout isn't approved. The Federal Communications Commissions still has to sign off on the deal.

According to S&P, XM could require about $1.04 billion of refinancing after the proposed buyout closes. If the deal goes through, S&P said it would likely upgrade the company's ratings by one notch.

If the merger is not approved, S&P said it could lower the ratings unless we become convinced that XM can address its standalone liquidity needs and progress steadily to financial self-sustainability."


There is a reason XM agreed to be bought out by Sirius, and it's because XM is going broke. Their financial numbers have been getting worse for a couple years now and they are running out of options. If this buyout does not get approved by the FCC, everyone may be flushing their XM units.

[snitchjanitor]

Sirius and XM met once again with the FCC today. In the ex parte filing, they showed a new version of their a la carte package pricing with an O & A package for $3.00.

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6519869225