Official UFC 83 thread

[Capt.Caveman]

Figured since we have our own forum now i'll start it early here. I'll be watching and commenting all night. so if you don't want to know results and such STAY THE FUCK OUT OF HERE. and don't whine about spoiler alerts either. eat my asshole:action-sm

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

I think Hogan, Randy Savage and Roddy Piper won.....:action-sm

[Capt.Caveman]

I think Hogan, Randy Savage and Roddy Piper won.....:action-sm

yea but that's only cause snuka hit the iron shiek with a chair

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

I will prolly be watching @ my buddies house. If I don't get too drunk and pass out.

[ymBox]

Just leaving right now to drive to montreal to go to the fight. My first UFC event. I would be more excited if I weren't so hung over from last night. Time to get on the road. WAR GSP

[dodisman]

GSP is getting dropped tonight in front of his homies

[seeinred]

I may have to skip the late hockey game tonight for this. I may not be as knowledgeable about the sport as all you fucks, but I love me some MMA.

[Capt.Caveman]

I may have to skip the late hockey game tonight for this. I may not be as knowledgeable about the sport as all you fucks, but I love me some MMA.

it doesn't take long...pretty soon you'll get addicted and will be willing to suck a dick to watch a fight:action-sm

[JMCC]

GSP is out to prove a point, Serra better be very afraid....

[sniper]

Figured since we have our own forum now i'll start it early here.

I figured it was about time :D

Looking forward to this card, I like both Serra and GSP but I think GSP is just unstoppable at this point. Looking forward to the Franklin/Lutter fight as well.

[Capt.Caveman]

I figured it was about time :D

Looking forward to this card, I like both Serra and GSP but I think GSP is just unstoppable at this point. Looking forward to the Franklin/Lutter fight as well.

good job sir:action-sm

[StonerJack]

Excited to see Bisping at 185, I think it's a better fit for him.
I'm expecting GSP to win, but don't expect Serra to get walked over. The guy is very hard to stop, and his GNP defense is very good.

[Capt.Caveman]

:D
I'm expecting GSP to win, but don't expect Serra to get walked over. The guy is very hard to stop, and his GNP defense is very good.

that's cause no one trains to throw punches 2 feet below normal. matt sure is a tough wee lil fella

[Capt.Caveman]

UNDERCARD HAS STARTED


JONATHAN GOULET VS. KUNIYOSHI HIRONAKA

ROUND 1 -- After stuffing an early takedown attempt, Goulet goes on the offensive and begins to work his stand-up game. Hironaka sneaks in a few counter-punches to slow the charge. After clinching up, Goulet lands some knees to the midsection of his opponent. Hironaka lands a knee of his own, but he's quickly taken to the ground. Goulet jockeys for position and is tied up for the most part. After getting back to his feet, Hironaka lands a big left hand that staggers Goulet. Hironaka takes the fight to the ground and tags his opponent with elbows and punches to close out the round. Hironaka takes the first round on MMAjunkie.com's scorecard, 10-9.

ROUND 2 -- Goulet appears to have regained his composure. The two fighters trade jabs before Goulet stuns Hironaka with a blow. Goulet closes the distance, fakes a takedown and then pins his opponent against the fence. A series of blows drops Hironaka, and the bout is stopped.

Jonathan Goulet def. Kuniyoshi Hironaka via TKO (punches) -- Round 2, 2:07

BRAD MORRIS VS. CAIN VELASQUEZ

ROUND 1 -- Velasquez sets the pace early with a series of punches. Morris has little to offer in return and is avoiding few punches. An overhand left from Velasquez drops Morris, who then absorbs an onslaught of punches and elbows. One blow causes his head to hit with a thud as it bounces off the canvas, and the ref warns him to fight back. Velasquez takes his opponent's back and continues effectively tagging Morris. After a quick scramble, Morris is able to escape, but as he tries to throw a punch of his own, he eats an uppercut then sends him crashing to the canvas. The ref jumps in to halt the bout before he loses consciousness.

Cain Valesquez def. Brad Morris via TKO (strikes) -- Round 1, 2:10

[Cromwell]

I'll be back for the main events at 10 pm . . .

[StonerJack]

Thats a big win for Goulet. Hironaka has a name in Japan, so he could fight for DREAM or whoever. Goulet really needed this win if he wanted to stay in the UFC. I still think he woul be a better fit in the WEC, but congrats to him for winning, in Canada too.

[distortion9]

Expecting a play by play for the Serra fight, guys.

[Capt.Caveman]

RICH CLEMENTI VS. SAM STOUT

ROUND 1 -- Clementi scores the early takedown but can do little as Stout wiggles free. Clementi, though, drags him back to the mat and then takes Goulet's back. Stout keeps the blood flowing though by dipping his chin and then rolls over. Clementi quickly takes advantage of the mount position and unloads a series of combinations. Stout tries to tie him up, and when the opportunity arises, he backs out and escapes to his feet with minimal damage. Clementi thinks about shooting again, but Stout backs out of it. Stout lets his hands fly, but Clementi keeps his distance before shooting back in and scoring the takedown. Clementi works for a kimura then tries to straighten it out for an armbar, but returns to the mount position and uncorks some blows to end the round. It's all Clementi in the first, 10-9.

ROUND 2 -- Stout tentatively begins throwing punches, fearful of the takedown. However, Clementi begins throwing his own punches and pops his opponent with a right hand to the jaw. He then misses on a head kick. Stout shakes off the blow, and then begins working with his own combinations. A left hook to the body connects, and a few jabs create some distance. Clementi tries a lazy takedown attempt that Stout easily sidesteps. Clementi then lands a few punches before Stout shoots in. Clementi, though, locks in a guillotine, and it takes Stout some effort to escape. Clementi stalks him before the round ends. MMAjunkie.com gives it to Clementi, 10-9, for the submission attempt and damage.

ROUND 3 -- The crowd again comes alive to root on Stout as Clementi winks at his opponent to start the final frame. After a mutual nod, the two fighters take the center of the cage and trade punches befor Clementi explodes forward for the takedown. Clementi lands few punches before Stout rolls free and back to his feet. Stout begins to land some punches and knocks Clementi off balance with a right and a head kick. The pace slows as the crowd tries to spark some action. Stout lands a combination after sidestepping a takedown attempt. An overhand left from Stout partially connects as the round ends. MMAjunkie.com gives the third round to Stout, 10-9, but the fight goes to Clementi 29-28 on our card.

Rich Clementi def. Sam Stout via split decision (29-27, 28-29, 29-28)

ED HERMAN VS. DEMIAN MAIA

ROUND 1 -- Maia gets the early takedown, and he hands on as Herman muscles his way back to his feet. Maia tries to throw a knee while they're clinched but instead tries to drag his opponent to the mat. Herman reverses the position and lands in guard and shakes off a submission attempt. Maia scrambles and grabs a leg looking for a knee bar and then heel hook, but Herman pushes him off with his legs. Maia then takes the mount position and looks to rain down punches, though Herman pulls him close to his body to close the distance. Herman bucks him free and claims the dominant position as the round ends. MMAjunkie.com has it 10-9 for Maia for overall control.

ROUND 2 -- After faking a punch and then getting popped with a left hand, Maia swoops in for the takedown, but Herman expertly wrestles his way to the top position and works from in guard. He then delivers his patented elbow strikes and some short punches. Maia slowly but successfully uses his legs to crawl up Herman's body. As Herman attempts to throw a punch from above, Maia wraps over a leg and sinks in a triangle choke. Herman appears he may back out of it when he rolls over, but Maia now sits on top of his opponent and tightens up the hold as Herman turns blue. With little movement and Herman unresponsive, the referee steps and pulls Maia off an out-cold Herman.

Demian Maia def. Ed Herman via submission (triangle choke) -- Round 2, 2:27

[Capt.Caveman]

ALAN BELCHER VS. JASON DAY

ROUND 1 -- After a touch of gloves, Belcher scores the early takedown. He drops an elbow from sidemount before trying to step over for full mount but is pulled into guard. Day uses his long limbs to tie up Belcher, who's now resting his head on his opponent's chest. Belcher's elbows miss the mark, and after a stalemate, the ref restarts the fighters. Day immediately goes on the offensive and pokes jabs through his opponent's guard and then tags Belcher with a series of combinations. Belcher is staggering around the cage and has no offensive, and the Canadian crowd jumps to its feet to root on the local fighter. The blows continue to land flush before the ref jumps in to save Belcher.

Jason Day def. Alan Belcher via TKO (strikes) -- Round 1, 3:58

[Capt.Caveman]

3-2 on my picks so far. day and goulet wins are my losses.

rest o my picks are
mcdonald, danzig,bisbing,quarry,franklin, and st pierre

[distortion9]

3-2 on my picks so far. day and goulet wins are my losses.

rest o my picks are
mcdonald, danzig,bisbing,quarry,franklin, and st pierre


Boooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Capt.Caveman]

Boooooooooooooooooooooooo

i'm rooting for serra i hate the french but i gotta go with st pierre after his last 2 fights and matt coming off a back injury

[Capt.Caveman]

JOE DOERKSEN VS. JASON MACDONALD

ROUND 1 -- The bad-blood match nearly ends early as MacDonald sinks in a deep guillotine. Doerksen remains patient as MacDonald torques the hold. Doerksen finally breaks free and gasps to catch his breath as the two fighters scramble on the ground. Doerksen climbs on top of his opponent and then secures a free arm and looks for a keylock. MacDonald escapes as Doerksen continually finds the favorable position. MacDonald escapes, though, and then shoves Doerksen backward and on his back. MacDonald tries a kneebar with little success, and the round soon ends. MMAjunkie.com has it 10-9 for MacDonald due to the late scramble.

ROUND 2 -- The two fighters take the center of the cage and trade blows before MacDonald clips Doerksen with a right that may have rocked him. After clinching up, the fighters lose balance and hit the mat, where MacDonald pins Doerksen on his back. MacDonald immediately delivers a ground-and-pound onslaught that betters Doerksen. With the fighter's head bouncing off the mat like it's being dribbled, the ref jump in to save Doerksen. MacDonald lands a few more blows, which causes a commotion.

Jason MacDonald def. Joe Doerksen via TKO (strikes) -- Round 2, 0:56

[Cromwell]

K

I'm back.

Getting psyched now, watching the pre-match hype for Franklin-Luter and of course, GSP-Serra :icon_cool

[Capt.Caveman]

K

I'm back.

Getting psyched now, watching the pre-match hype for Franklin-Luter and of course, GSP-Serra :icon_cool

didn't go to pale's? I wanted to but my wife i working and i have the kids.

[Capt.Caveman]

IT's STARTING!!

everytime i see the beginning of a ppv all i can think of is "do you like movies about gladiators biily"

[Cromwell]

didn't go to pale's? I wanted to but my wife i working and i have the kids.

I'll always be with Pale in spirit (and in my sig pic ) :icon_mrgr

Dude - I gots the wife and kidz too.

Love my computer though :icon_cool

[Capt.Caveman]

I heard something about rogan and bad blood with the ufc and now he's not here. anyone have any info

[Cromwell]

Wow. Bad blood?

That shocks me that no Rogan.

Kenny K-Flo in for the commentary!

[Capt.Caveman]

I fuckin hate danzig. i think he'll win but he makes me physically ill every time he opens his mouth

[Cromwell]

You just don't like him 'cause he's a vegan maaaaaaaan . . .

[Capt.Caveman]

You just don't like him 'cause he's a vegan maaaaaaaan . . .

true that and he's a tree hugger..yuck

[Cromwell]

Who do you give that first round to?

[Capt.Caveman]

i'll give that rd to bocek. danzig came back strong at the end of the round but bocek's wrestling and bjj were better

[Cromwell]

Here in the second, though Danzig is dominating

[Capt.Caveman]

danzig dominated rd 2 that knee was fuckin sweet. i thought bocek was close to going out a few times. kids tough

[Cromwell]

Danzig's knees are impressive

[Capt.Caveman]

danzig wins by choke.

he was winning that 3rd rd bocek is a tough kid a lot of heart

[Cromwell]

Wait - Mandy Moore is Canadian (and Mac Danzig's girlfriend?) :icon_eek:

[Capt.Caveman]

TUF makes you dislike some guys. I can't stand whiney Mccarthey either and i think he eats meat

[Capt.Caveman]

Bisbing looks like a soccer hooligan

[Cromwell]

Bisbing looks ferocious at 185. Impressive win.

[distortion9]

CRAZY knees

[Capt.Caveman]

def bisbings rd. wait it's over? mcarthy's arm possibly broke. bisbing was in trouble with that armbar but bisbing looked good. he went after him. bisbing vs silva?

[Gotti420]

bisbing vs silva?

That's possible for sure, especially since Silva's demolished pretty much everyone else in the division.

[Capt.Caveman]

when did turtle become a ufc ref

[Capt.Caveman]

quarry wins the rd easy. starnes is running away. turtle should take a point

[Capt.Caveman]

starnes is being a total pussy. rd 2 to quarry

[jshep]

x2

[Capt.Caveman]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


Quary wins this one easy. lost a lot of respect for starnes

[jshep]

why the hell is that stupic canuk deciding know to talk mess.

[jshep]

his own people boo him hahahaha

[Capt.Caveman]

30-24 wow score

[Capt.Caveman]

wow serra creeping up in the voting

[jshep]

go franklin

[Capt.Caveman]

good round lutter wins that one. but franklin getting out of that armbar was great.

[Cromwell]

Wow.

Who do you give that first round to?

[jshep]

knock him out

[jshep]

congrats rich

[Cromwell]

Franklin just dominated

[Capt.Caveman]

wow did lutter gas. he looked good in the 1st rd. franklin ko's him

[Gotti420]

Lutter's conditioning is HORRIBLE

[jshep]

serra in a upset

[jshep]

lutter's condtioning coach needs to be shot.

[Fuck Crosby]

serra in a upset

I hope so.

[mr. sin]

screw serra!
screw gsp!

but gsp has this!

[jshep]

hope serra's music is blame canada

[mr. sin]

lulz! the track gsp coming out to!

[jshep]

gsp is cut

[Cromwell]

Wow - look at that reach advantage for GSP

[jshep]

it's time, for a new tag line, it sucks

[mr. sin]

wow ny'ers there lol

[jshep]

what the hell are they chanting?

[jshep]

good take down

[GDRC]

what the hell are they chanting?

OLE! They won't be able to chant it anymore for Hockey so i guess they moved it to MMA.

[mr. sin]

they are chanting the eglish soccer chant

[Cromwell]

St. Pierre is *destroying* Serra.

[Capt.Caveman]

gsp takes rd 1. wow he looks good. serra hanging in

[Cromwell]

Its just a matter of time - GSP will win this *easily*

[jshep]

serra is totally confused

[jshep]

serra better hope for something he doesnt look into it. gsp will mkae him tap

[Cromwell]

Serra is finally being exposed for what I've known all along - that he is the *luckiest* "champion" ever.

GSP is beating the crap out of him - and that is as it should be.

[mr. sin]

gsp won!

[jshep]

looked easy

[Cromwell]

Serra laid there like a bitch.

Now - I want Hughes to get his chance to shut Serra's pop off mouth up.

[Capt.Caveman]

good job gsp. i wish he wasn't french canadian. serra hung more then matt hughes did. serra vs hughes hopefully coming soon

[Fuck Crosby]

Even though I wanted Serra good to see a good French-Canadien win, unlike the Habs

[mr. sin]

future mma fights!

http://mmajunkie.com/Events.aspx?rumors

[Cromwell]

serra hung more then matt hughes did


No he didn't.

Hughes gave a better fight.

Serra *finally* got exposed for the pretender he's always been.

He talked way too much shit.

As I just said before - Hughes deserves his chance to shut Serra's mouth up next.

[StonerJack]

My ribs hurt after watching that.
GSP is what we always knew he was, the best 170lber in the world.
Kenny did a great job filling in for Joe.
The Michael Jordan of BJJ might have to start teaching more and stop fighting, he doesn't have the heart for it anymore.

[Aizazzle]

That was quite possible the best UFC crowd that I have heard, though the soccer chant was full of faggotry, but they made up for it by chanting "Fuck You Serra"....

As for the fight (if you could call it that) Serra look absolutely overwhlemed by Pierre. I was rooting for Serra, but after the very first few minutes I realized Serra had no shot at winning this. Pierre obviously outfought overwhelmed Serra, but he also outsmarted him. Serra had that deer in the headlights look to him, after the first two minutes.

Oh and at the end Serra picking up Pierre was full of faggotry too. Before, the match Serra said how much he relished being the asshole in the fight, but at the end he tries to be a good guy. WTF! He should have acted like a jerkoff, like he did before the fight, since obviously there is going to be Serra vs Pierre 3...

[StonerJack]

Fuck Serra v St. Pierre 3.
If I was Dana I would sit Matt down and offer him the fight with George, ORan automatic shot at the 155lb belt. It's the division he should be in anyway, and it poses alot mor intriguing matchups for Matt down the road. Guida v Serra would be a good one, or Huerta Serra. Matt doesn't have nearly the size he needs to be a top flight 170lber.

[Palerider4146]

Hey folks, so heres my thoughts...

I'm a Serra fan, but he got exposed tonight. He had his moment when he won the title, but I didnt honestly expect him to win this fight. They both were classy at the end though.

Franklin looked pretty damn good, to bad it wont be good enought to avoid the broken nose he would get at Silva/Ace 3 if that were to happen. Lutter absolutely had no cardio there.

Quarry looked good in a fight that Starnes made look horrible. They were booing the Canadian there, not necessarily the fight. Although out of character for Quarry, it was damn funny they way he mocked Kalib with the running around and the "screach" defense.

Anyone see the "sub of the night" at the end of the broadcast? Sick triangle that made Ed Herman look like he died. Very scary shit.

[burky79]

Howdy all, sorry I wasn't here for the live viewing... today was my Dad's 64th birthday, so the gf and I went to Zanesville to celebrate with he and my Mom.

ANYWAY

Just got done watching the replay and WTF?!?! No Joe?

I heard something about rogan and bad blood with the ufc and now he's not here. anyone have any info

Wow. Bad blood?

That shocks me that no Rogan.

Kenny K-Flo in for the commentary!

My ribs hurt after watching that.
GSP is what we always knew he was, the best 170lber in the world.
Kenny did a great job filling in for Joe.
The Michael Jordan of BJJ might have to start teaching more and stop fighting, he doesn't have the heart for it anymore.

I am really curious what is going on? I love Joe as a comedian, commentator and guest... I am a huge fan of his presence and really want to know what happened! Does anyone have a confirmation?

K-Flo did a good job, but he's no Joe.

----

Wait - Mandy Moore is Canadian (and Mac Danzig's girlfriend?) :icon_eek:
Really... never knew that. The gf just told me she played the presidents daughter in some movie... no clue myself, but that's interesting.

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And yes, that triangle was sick! That's some well earned $!

[JMCC]

Serra came into the fight very cocky and left as humble as humanly possible. Those kicks at the ribs were painful to watch, he basically had his way with him, just dominated Serra plain and simple. I wasn't impressed by Serra at all. Like Cromwell said, Hughes deserves his chance to shut Serra's mouth up...

Ace looked good, the way he got out of that armbar was absolutely beautiful, he timed it perfectly. And Lutter, WTF? where was the cardio?

The way Kalib was running away from Quarry was embarrasing, if you don't want to fight then you might as well get submitted and get it over with.

[JMCC]

Kalib flipping the bird while backpedaling

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w55/kobayashi93/runningman.gif

Quarry doing the "screech"
http://i30.tinypic.com/sxjfc1.gif

[burky79]

Kalib flipping the bird while backpedaling

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w55/kobayashi93/runningman.gif

Quarry doing the "screech"
http://i30.tinypic.com/sxjfc1.gif

Didn't catch the bird the first time round! hahaha

Good interview with Ace over at sherdog : http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1547

[Chino Kapone]

From the moment GSP walked into the ring he looked like he was going to mutilate Serra. GSP just looked more ripped, ready and determined to fight. After the first round Serra looked like he got ran over by a car. GSP looked to be in the kinda shape only the top athletes in the world get into. He proved he is the best in the world @ 170.


So who can compete with GSP??? Who gets the next shot? It had better not be Serra or Hughes again. GSP is the Anderson Silva of 170.

[mendozathejew]

Fitch should be next. very tough fight for both, and it may not be the most exciting. GSP has had a massive size advantage over just about all of his opponents. That wouldnt be the case in this fight which makes it interesting to me

[burky79]

Story at Digg :
http://digg.com/extreme_sports/Joe_Rogan_The_UFC_and_me

From Joe's site... he says it was a family obligation.

It may be posted somewhere else, but I didn't take the time to search the UFC forum... which I'll do now. :)

[Capt.Caveman]

No he didn't.

Hughes gave a better fight.

Serra *finally* got exposed for the pretender he's always been.

He talked way too much shit.

As I just said before - Hughes deserves his chance to shut Serra's mouth up next.

your letting your hatred of serra blur your memory. hughes mounted 0 offense. he got out wrestled and had nothing. serra didn't do much but his standup didn't look that bad. didn't look that great either he ate a few jabs in a row but gsp didn't want to stand with him. and you can't blame serra for talking. gsp totally disrespected him by saying he looked past himn blah blah. serra called him frenchy big deal. i wanna see hughes/serra. then serra should go back to 155

[TheTruth]

So who can compete with GSP??? Who gets the next shot? It had better not be Serra or Hughes again. GSP is the Anderson Silva of 170.

GSP is not at all the Anderson Silva of 170. Silva has dominated every fight he has been in since coming to the UFC. GSP lost to Hughes, then beat him. Then he lost to Serra, then beat him. He needs to defend the title a few times before saying he is unbeatable.

I haven't seen the Serra/GSP 2 fight yet, but regardless of how bad Serra got dominated he deserves a rematch, after all Serra dominated the first fight they had.

[Capt.Caveman]

GSP is not at all the Anderson Silva of 170. Silva has dominated every fight he has been in since coming to the UFC. GSP lost to Hughes, then beat him. Then he lost to Serra, then beat him. He needs to defend the title a few times before saying he is unbeatable.

I haven't seen the Serra/GSP 2 fight yet, but regardless of how bad Serra got dominated he deserves a rematch, after all Serra dominated the first fight they had.

i see where your coming from but i also see the opposite point. gsp dominated the best welterweight of all time and then dominated the reigning champ. koscheck and bj penn gave him a lil trouble but other then them he's thrown everyone else a beating. hughes hit an armbar and serra caught him st pierre was winning the rd against hughes and serra just got to him early. 2 mistakes he has cleared up it looks like. it wasn't like he was losing or got dominated. getting caught happens that's why no one is undefeated. silva is p4p the best fighter in the world followed by fedor then gsp imo

[mendozathejew]

the 4 most talented fighters regardless of weight are BJ Penn, GSP, Anderson Silva, and Fedor.

Im down on the p4p lists in both mma and boxing right now. the arguments are pretty much pointless, and besides that Im not sure theres a clear winner. Silva is on quite a roll. I think the competition is weakest at 185 though. Fedor is by far the best winner with the most impressive career but has been inactive. BJ Penn is always about what he can be, hopefully he shows us against Sherk. GSP would probably get my pick if I had to make one cause his competition has been stellar, and I think he is the most athletically gifted fighter in mma