Hire Me. Smart College Grad needs job

[Phil Packer]

i was working for a law firm in new york city last year and my department was shut down. i've been out of work since november. i'm 23 with office experience and haven't been able to find a job after sending my resume out to hundreds of places and going on countless interviews.

someone hire me. i know someone on here has to have some pull at some job and be able to hire me.

i will seriously take any job.

i'm a fast learner. have references from previous jobs.

i have a bachelors in criminal justice.

does your job give bonuses if you refer a new employee? this is your opportunity.


e-mail me at

benjaminsherman@earthlink.net


additionally, i'm an awesome cook. I have 3 years restaurant experience doing everything from bussing tables, serving, bartending, and a little kitchen experience. also, i make some great BBQ.

[LiddyRules]

Go to law school. It was my panicky last minute, wrist-slicing, decision out of fear of unemployment.

Failing that, temp until you can find something better. It's a way to make extra money, sometimes (not often) it can lead to permanent placement. And if you've worked at a law firm, legal temp agencies pay better than non-legal temp agencies.

[Nortonsmeatytit]

I was laid off in mid January and finally found a new position I'll be starting in about two weeks. Good luck bro'. trying to find a half decent job in this economy is tantamount to getting a blow job at a convent

[Absolutely]

Welcome to my world, graduated last May.
No job. Online sites blow, papers blow, craigslist blow.

[Chino Kapone]

I own a furniture store and I need a replacement for my part time girl for about 6 weeks. Its mainly just vaccuming, dusting and cleaning. there will be some things that required to be assembled as well. Also a some part time sales.Its about 20 hours a week and i pay $8 an hour CASH!!$$$ The job starts may 15th.

[Sidekick Dave]

careerbuilder.com


That's where all of the cool kids go.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

careerbuilder.com


That's where all of the cool kids go, maaaaaaaaaaaan

Fixed it for ya.:action-sm

[Nortonsmeatytit]

Online sites blow, papers blow, craigslist blow.

isn't that the truth. there are sooo many total fucking scamboogery job ads/offers out there. I love the douchebag rah rah marketing position come ons, "Sports Environment" WTF does that shit mean????? or the new favorite "Diversity Job Fair" which means they are looking to recruit schwoogs right out of school for pocket change, meh.

Recruiting companies are the absolut worst. I wouldn't piss on those assholes if they were on fire

[Capt.Caveman]

I got a job for you. but you gotta be good with lubed up hands and not make eye contact

[THE FEZ MAN]

mobile dredge is always hiring

[Absolutely]

isn't that the truth. there are sooo many total fucking scamboogery job ads/offers out there. I love the douchebag rah rah marketing position come ons, "Sports Environment" WTF does that shit mean????? or the new favorite "Diversity Job Fair" which means they are looking to recruit schwoogs right out of school for pocket change, meh.

Recruiting companies are the absolut worst. I wouldn't piss on those assholes if they were on fire

In my area, there will be like 2,000 listings for jobs posted recently.
Of those 2,000, 1,500 listing are absolute shit. "Are you interested in Sports, and a high paying, high fun lifestyle?" "Are you interested in making $5,000 a day?!"
Shut the fuck up. Like you said it's the recruiting company using like 3 different business names, all the same shit.
Cold calling people, trying to sell shit.

There was one shady one I actually called the other day, it was just this vague, "Make $1,000 a week. No Experience Needed, College Grad Only" something like that. I call and find out that you would be selling something similar to SWANS Frozen dinners door to door.

[Phil Packer]

Go to law school. It was my panicky last minute, wrist-slicing, decision out of fear of unemployment.

Failing that, temp until you can find something better. It's a way to make extra money, sometimes (not often) it can lead to permanent placement. And if you've worked at a law firm, legal temp agencies pay better than non-legal temp agencies.


tried to go back to school a few months ago. i have good credit but still couldn't get approved for loans. fucking economy is bullshit.

[WoodenPlank]

This thread has made me more thankful for my new job. At least Uncle Sam always seems to be hiring.

[THE FEZ MAN]

learn a truly usefull skill and you will never be out of work unless you want to be

[dodisman]

kind of tough to take this lad seriously with "Throat Yogurt Dispenser" as his slug line.

that isn't on your resume is it?

[Eagle.007]

I'll pay you $200 to write a 12 page paper for me by May 1st. It has to be about how Sony's marketing and management is about to ruin the company. If you are interested I have most of the sources already.

[Hey_Asshole]

you can clean my house....pays minimum wage plus tips if done in the nude, max 3 hours a week.

Seriously, who isnt looking for work....good luck with your search man.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

learn a truly usefull skill and you will never be out of work unless you want to be


Fact. Learn a skill bookworm.

It will be sweeping the nation in 10-15 years.

[jimmyjimjimz]

Yeah, for those who do not remember or are new here, I worked for Home Depot, and they fucked me over, so I'm looking for a job too. I start a 9 month internship in the mailroom @ Baruch College on Monday. I already have like 8 or 9 months experience in mailroom from another internship that I did from 2003-2004. After that, it was so hard to find a mailroom job, cause every job lead I found said you need like 1-2 years experience and shit like that, so I got the job at Home Depot pushing shopping carts around. That obviously sucked AIDS infested cock, so the day they asked me to wash bird shit off of shopping carts, I thought to myself "I'm a lot better than this, I'm a lot smarter than this, and I can get a better job" so I didn't wash the bird shit off of the carts, I stayed the rest of the day, and I never went back into work. They basically stopped putting me on the schedule, that's why I never went back in. So, now I'm in a business school, I got the internship through them, and now it's gonna be easier to get a mailroom job that actually pays.

[Goober]

Become a cop. It sounds like a hack idea, but you studied criminal justice.

[JimsInfectedEye]

learn a truly usefull skill and you will never be out of work unless you want to be

Truer words have never been spoken. The last company I worked for gave you a dozen chances before they'd fire you. No one wants to get dirty anymore.

[FMDoug]

Yeah, for those who do not remember or are new here, I worked for Home Depot, and they fucked me over, so I'm looking for a job too. I start a 9 month internship in the mailroom @ Baruch College on Monday. I already have like 8 or 9 months experience in mailroom from another internship that I did from 2003-2004. After that, it was so hard to find a mailroom job, cause every job lead I found said you need like 1-2 years experience and shit like that, so I got the job at Home Depot pushing shopping carts around. That obviously sucked AIDS infested cock, so the day they asked me to wash bird shit off of shopping carts, I thought to myself "I'm a lot better than this, I'm a lot smarter than this, and I can get a better job" so I didn't wash the bird shit off of the carts, I stayed the rest of the day, and I never went back into work. They basically stopped putting me on the schedule, that's why I never went back in. So, now I'm in a business school, I got the internship through them, and now it's gonna be easier to get a mailroom job that actually pays.

Now you need an internship to get in the mailroom of a company? Not you specifically, but in general. That seems like a bunch of bs. If someone told me, "you're working in the mailroom, we wont pay you." I'd say, go fuck yourself. What do you have to learn at that level that can't be learned in one week? Mail goes here, mail goes there.

I feel like I'm missing something.

That being said, I'm doing an internship this summer with a supreme court judge in manhattan. Though, I have an ulterior motive to make connections and get a job at a good firm next year.

[Three Hole Puncher]

Truer words have never been spoken. The last company I worked for gave you a dozen chances before they'd fire you. No one wants to get dirty anymore.
Yep... I worked for my last company as a field electronics technician. In six years with the company I saw managers come and go. I saw Directors of Service fired, demoted and transferred against their will. I saw Service Managers have their OT hours shut down and their salaries frozen. I saw a Regional Service Manger laid off, and the position eliminated. In all that time, I never saw a single technician fired, denied a raise, or have their pay curtailed in any way. I saw plenty of techs walk away of their own free will for better, higher paying positions with other companies, but not a single one was ever "...asked to leave".

I heard plenty of threats against field techs made by management, but I never saw a single one carried out. I myself was threatened about twice per year, and nothing ever came of any of it. Matter of fact, a Director of Service once told me I WAS fired... he just had to go fill out the paperwork. A week later, he got laid off, while I was still working for the company three years later.

A tribe will still run without a chief, but there is no tribe without Indians.

[Sam_Adams]

tried to go back to school a few months ago. i have good credit but still couldn't get approved for loans. fucking economy is bullshit.

This economy just seems to be doom and gloom. The company I work for (one of the largest media corps in the nation) has a hiring freeze on because of the announcements from Bernanke.

My dad just quit his job because it was just too much bullshit after 30 years of doing the same shit. He used to have his own business but he couldn't ever get paid by insurance companies and it was too much hassle in the late '90s and has only gotten worse since.

So, we may start a vineyard to keep him busy.

[LiddyRules]

So, we may start a vineyard to keep him busy. Tastes somewhat nutty with a hint of bullets and racism.
learn a truly usefull skill and you will never be out of work unless you want to be What skills are there to learn. I'm not naturally talented in anything other than depressed moping and holding off killing myself.

I start a 9 month internship in the mailroom @ Baruch College on Monday. Who has a 9 month internship at the mailroom of a college? At a mailroom of anywhere? Who even has 9 month internships unless you pull a 202 and just stay? Do you even get paid?

That being said, I'm doing an internship this summer with a supreme court judge in manhattan. Though, I have an ulterior motive to make connections and get a job at a good firm next year. Huge difference between interning/clerking for a judge and spending 75% of a year learning how to lick stamps.

[Sam_Adams]

Tastes somewhat nutty with a hint of bullets and racism.

Yeah, will be a nice variety of wine, right? :action-sm It takes five years for grape vines to mature though.

[jimmyjimjimz]

Now you need an internship to get in the mailroom of a company? Not you specifically, but in general. That seems like a bunch of bs. If someone told me, "you're working in the mailroom, we wont pay you." I'd say, go fuck yourself. What do you have to learn at that level that can't be learned in one week? Mail goes here, mail goes there.

I feel like I'm missing something.

That being said, I'm doing an internship this summer with a supreme court judge in manhattan. Though, I have an ulterior motive to make connections and get a job at a good firm next year.


Who has a 9 month internship at the mailroom of a college? At a mailroom of anywhere? Who even has 9 month internships unless you pull a 202 and just stay? Do you even get paid?

Huge difference between interning/clerking for a judge and spending 75% of a year learning how to lick stamps.


I realize an internship in a mailroom sounds weird and stupid, but it's basically for the experience. It's a lot easier to get a job in a field if you actually have experience in that field. I already have about 8-9 months experience in mailroom, and I have 18 months in customer service working at Home Depot, so if this internship goes well, I have a much better chance getting the job than the other guy who got the internship with me has, because he has about 2 months work experience. I worked for my dad for a couple summers (he owns an air conditioning business in Manhattan) and that didn't really work out. Bak then, I woulda rather just stayed home and hang out. I was like 17 or 18 years old, just out of high school, so he forced me to work for him, basically. Then, in the summer of 2003, I got an internship doing office work for a couple months, then I interned in the mailroom at Juilliard. That ended in 2004. Then, in April 2006, I started working at Home Depot. I left in October 2007. So, that's basically my work experience. They wanna hire experienced workers. They don't wanna hire people just out of high school who don't know what the fuck they're doing.

My point is:
Most companies hireing people for a mailroom position want people with experience. A lot of them that I saw, you needed a lot of experience. I applied for some that you didn't need much, and no one ever got back to me. Now that I'm gonna have more experience after 9 months, I'll have a better chance getting hired.

[LiddyRules]

No one is saying experience is bad. But 18 months experience in a mailroom? What's your big goal afterwards? More mailroom work? What's the end point.

If you want to intern there, fine. But having a set plan of interning (in a mailroom) for 75% of a year? That's what I'm confused by. What do you learn in a mailroom that would require a year and a half of interning? And do you get paid or for the next 9 months are you getting absolutely nothing.

[jimmyjimjimz]

No one is saying experience is bad. But 18 months experience in a mailroom? What's your big goal afterwards? More mailroom work? What's the end point.

If you want to intern there, fine. But having a set plan of interning (in a mailroom) for 75% of a year? That's what I'm confused by. What do you learn in a mailroom that would require a year and a half of interning? And do you get paid or for the next 9 months are you getting absolutely nothing.

No, I'm not getting paid, but I'm getting experience. I'm not gonna be there all day, anyway. It's from 9am-2:30pm. It's not like it's a regular 9-5 job. Yeah, my big goal afterwards is to get a mailroom job, or work at the post office. I really want a union job, because I'm getting SSI now, I stutter when I talk, but I don't wanna be on SSI my whole life. I got my own place now, so obviously I need a job. I don't know what you would need to learn in a mailroom that would take a year and a half of interning, but most job leads I saw after my 1st mailroom internship ended said you needed like 1-2 years experience. I really want a mailroom job. I can't think of anything else to do. I can't do construction, because I have a bad back. I can't really think of anything else to do.

[FMDoug]

No, I'm not getting paid, but I'm getting experience. I'm not gonna be there all day, anyway. It's from 9am-2:30pm. It's not like it's a regular 9-5 job. Yeah, my big goal afterwards is to get a mailroom job, or work at the post office. I really want a union job, because I'm getting SSI now, I stutter when I talk, but I don't wanna be on SSI my whole life. I got my own place now, so obviously I need a job. I don't know what you would need to learn in a mailroom that would take a year and a half of interning, but most job leads I saw after my 1st mailroom internship ended said you needed like 1-2 years experience. I really want a mailroom job. I can't think of anything else to do. I can't do construction, because I have a bad back. I can't really think of anything else to do.

It sounds to me like you are getting had. They are getting basically a full day of work from you for free for months on top of months. I'm not saying you don't enjoy it or it doesn't give you experience, but it doesn't give you money. To keep the place you need some scratch.

I'm not trying to tell you what to do. Though, if I were you, I'd stop with these internships and go on interviews. In reality you don't need a year or even 2 months of interning. You just need to learn the job. However long that takes. Then when you get to the interview you can spout off what you know.

There are jobs that you need experience for. If you want to work sales for IBM, they don't want you right out of high school/college. Why should they train you? Then there are jobs you just need a few days to learn. (i think mailroom is one of them)

Or i would take that post office exam. You don't even need an internship for that. Just study and pass the test.

Even starbucks or something. That beats filing mail.

[LiddyRules]

When you left the original mailjob, were you learning new things up until the end of your tenure or was it pretty much the same shit. I've been in mailrooms when I've needed to drop off important documents that your social superiors work on. It doesn't seem that complex.

I just don't really understand this entire "experience" thing. Have you tried interviews or just think there's light at the end of the internship tunnel? You say it's 1-2 years experience. Why not leave this internship after 3 months?

"It's not a 9-5 job, it's a 9-2:30 job?" You do know what bullshit that sounds like right?

I just find it hard to believe that it only takes twice as long to become a lawyer or get a graduate degree than to work your way into the mailroom.

[FMDoug]

I just find it hard to believe that it only takes twice as long to become a lawyer or get a graduate degree than to work your way into the mailroom.

Amen.

Speaking of that. If anyone is hiring in a law firm - i'm available.

How is law school going for you liddy?

[jimmyjimjimz]

It sounds to me like you are getting had. They are getting basically a full day of work from you for free for months on top of months. I'm not saying you don't enjoy it or it doesn't give you experience, but it doesn't give you money. To keep the place you need some scratch.

I'm not trying to tell you what to do. Though, if I were you, I'd stop with these internships and go on interviews. In reality you don't need a year or even 2 months of interning. You just need to learn the job. However long that takes. Then when you get to the interview you can spout off what you know.

There are jobs that you need experience for. If you want to work sales for IBM, they don't want you right out of high school/college. Why should they train you? Then there are jobs you just need a few days to learn. (i think mailroom is one of them)

Or i would take that post office exam. You don't even need an internship for that. Just study and pass the test.

Even starbucks or something. That beats filing mail.


When you left the original mailjob, were you learning new things up until the end of your tenure or was it pretty much the same shit. I've been in mailrooms when I've needed to drop off important documents that your social superiors work on. It doesn't seem that complex.

I just don't really understand this entire "experience" thing. Have you tried interviews or just think there's light at the end of the internship tunnel? You say it's 1-2 years experience. Why not leave this internship after 3 months?

"It's not a 9-5 job, it's a 9-2:30 job?" You do know what bullshit that sounds like right?

I just find it hard to believe that it only takes twice as long to become a lawyer or get a graduate degree than to work your way into the mailroom.

Yeah, when I had the original mailroom job, it was basically the same shit. The thing is, I wasn't as mature about working back then, so I didn't really put any effort into looking for a job. I applied for maybe 2 jobs, and no one got back to me. Then, I basically relyed on my job councelors to look for a job for me. Now, I'm more motivated, so I really think this is gonna work out.

[LiddyRules]

How is law school going for you liddy? Now that I've somewhat accepted I'm past the point of no return, I feel kind of at peace with it. I'm still looking for a summer job and I've put a few calls into a few leads, some interviews so we'll see how it goes. All else fails I can go back to temping for the summer.

Of course when I graduate I'm completely without leads and hope so now I'm depressed again. Thanks.

Have final this week.

What about you?

Now, I'm more motivated, so I really think this is gonna work out. Why not try to apply for actual jobs instead of doing this bullshit internship?

[FMDoug]

I have another week left, then finals. At this point it's just an endurance challenge. I have zero desire to read the material, but i know i have to. I learned what i needed for the bar and to practice, the rest of this stuff is just crap that might come up peripherally in practice.

I'm in for the summer. Internship/clerk with a judge. I also tried, and got, a DA internship but i figured working closely with a judge would be more beneficial next year when i have to get a job. Like the topic of this thread, it all seems to be about getting leads and recommendations and favors called in for you.

I'm not even going to think about the job market when I get out. It's hard for established lawyers to move around at this point. I can only think of what will happen for us. A JD and a shingle and no job. UCH.

Do you think you know which field you want to go yet?

[LiddyRules]

Do you think you know which field you want to go yet?Not...officially. I would love not to practice but I don't think that's an option at this point. I would prefer to be mostly transactional because of my crippling social anxiety and fear of people.

I guess if I had to choose I'd want something entertainment/media related because that's most of what I know anyway. But that's a bitch to get into.

Then I'm thinking of IP work but that's also a bitch to get into when you don't have any science/patent background.

Failing that I guess some business/corporate law.

But I doubt I'll be able to get into any of the three fields.

I would loathe to work in some sort of public sector position. It just seems so dead end and the antithesis of what I want out of life. I do want money, but I don't really need a lot of it. I'm more concerned about paying off loans than getting a nice apartment and fancy car. But the entire "government attorney" thing, doesn't work for me. Neither does the idea of working 80 hours a week at a big law firm. Not that I'd turn either down, though I know there's no chance for one of them (the latter).

So that's where I am right now. With thoughts of suicide becoming more and more comforting.

Because of where you want to work, I take it you want to get into the public sector?

And now let's wait for jimmyjimjimz and Phil Packer to smash through the buttresses of our ivory towers and bring us to the guillotine.

[jimmyjimjimz]

Why not try to apply for actual jobs instead of doing this bullshit internship?

I don't really know where to apply. Plus, just like FMDoug mentioned, it's about getting recomendations. Mostly every job I had, I fucked up my relationship with them somehow, so I need a good recomendation.

I went to a high school that was basically pushing everyone who went there to become a priest, so my school never had career day or anything, so I don't really know much about what's out there.

[LiddyRules]

so my school never had career day or anything, There is not a single person who a career day or guidance counselor ever helped.

[stevethrower]

Hmmm I have 9000 Christmas trees that need to be shaped and 4 horse stalls to be shoveled... oh and about 10 yards of horse shit compost pile that needs be turned... hope you work cheap... on the plus side you will be fed well:)

[FMDoug]

There is not a single person who a career day or guidance counselor ever helped.

So true. Not even the law person and my university helped. Just a waste of space. If you want to get a good job you have to go out and figure it out yourself.

So that's where I am right now. With thoughts of suicide becoming more and more comforting.
Maybe you should take a year off and see a psychiatrist?

Because of where you want to work, I take it you want to get into the public sector?
I'd prefer not to work in the public sector. This was just the best option at the moment. I get to work with one of the most respected judges in the county and make connections with all the lawyers that walk through the doors. Of course I would prefer to get paid, but hey, that's how it goes.

I'm still don't know which field I want yet. It's like the convo we had last time, except a year later. I have this feeling that I want to do something with music. I just don't know.

It's a tough thing to figure out.

[TrybalRage]

learn a truly usefull skill and you will never be out of work unless you want to be

+1000

Shame more kids aren't learning this before spending 4 years learning Shakespeare to be a Veterinarian. Colleges blow.

[TrybalRage]

What skills are there to learn. I'm not naturally talented in anything other than depressed moping and holding off killing myself.

Most needed skills are ones that most people don't want to learn because they are too much like... work.

Learn to fix shit. Stuff always breaks, and people get paid to put it back together.

[THE FEZ MAN]

Most needed skills are ones that most people don't want to learn because they are too much like... work.

Learn to fix shit. Stuff always breaks, and people get paid to put it back together.
its worked quite well for me over the last 20 years. now admittedly i have chosen to work in some strange places and made plenty of sacrifices because of it, but now i can walk into almost any shop in the country and get a job at the price i want, its to easy for kids to milk out 4 or more years of high school from there parents

[JimsInfectedEye]

Most needed skills are ones that most people don't want to learn because they are too much like... work.

Learn to fix shit. Stuff always breaks, and people get paid to put it back together.

True....if you know which end of a screwdriver to use, thats half the job. And chicks gravitate to the blue uniform. I've met some amazing pussy doing service work.

[coolyellowbus]

there's always the medical field... they are desperate for workers. Two years of school you can get a job as an x-ray tech making 50-60k a year. .. .

shoot, become an rn then join the navy reserve as an officer.

[Myhairygrundle]

^^^^^^^

What he said. You will get to bang nurses and it will be fun.


Good luck bro.

You are still young and have plenty of time to find out what you don't want to do.

[LiddyRules]

I agree, a problem is that as a country we try and focus more on white collar work than blue collar work and not everyone suits a white collar world.

Personally, I'm a thinker. I'm not a doer. I sit on a granite block with my fist to my chin and go "hmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

But a lot of people aren't and I can't fault them for that. In the same vein, don't be mad at me for not knowing the difference between wrenches and thinking a screwdriver can be a perfectly fine hammer if I use the handle properly.

Yet for some reason we keep dissuading people from taking the jobs and the careers and learning the knowledge to keep our machinery running. And, to be honest, those jobs seem fucking fun. Tinkering with stuff, doing your own thing, building and rebuilding equipment. If I knew how to do that, even if I didn't make a career out of it I definitely could find it enjoyable.

But instead they try and push everyone into a cubical for some god-known reason when many of them shouldn't be there. And not because they're too lowly for it, but because it's not the right fit for them. Yet if they go for trade work there's kind of a social stigma about it.

I think it has to with my long standing theory of how the elusive "they" are trying to slowly take away happiness and joy from our lives.

In conclusion, you blue collar people are taking our white collar people's jobs!!

And there is no way I'm getting into a medical-based profession.

[DonTheTrucker]

I agree, a problem is that as a country we try and focus more on white collar work than blue collar work and not everyone suits a white collar world.

That's our problem right now. We have too few people making things. Not everyone can work in an office and never get dirty. Someone has to build cars, houses and be farmers. Right now the Mexicans are doing that, while the same people who complain about them are sitting in an office contributing NOTHING to society.

Anyone who knows me knows that I probably seem ill fit to my present job. I don't look like a truck driver, I certainly don't speak like one and I hate every other driver out there. But I'd rather do this than sit in an office all day. I feel like I'm getting SOMETHING done at the end of the day. God knows I'm smart enough to be a tech support person for an IT department or a lawyer, but who wants to do that kind of work? It gets us nowhere.

[DoucheMeister]

I went to University, and I don't even use my degree at all, now I am in IT, but on the consulting side, so it keeps it fresh.

I tell my kids don't bother with college or university, get a skill in a trade, and you are set for life.