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distortion9
04-26-2008, 06:59 PM
ALL day yesterday, ALL day today....stripping this motherfucker. ALL day tomorrow I will be sanding the fuckshitcunt. My back is fucking killing me and I'm about to play lollipop with my 9mm.

I need some suggestions for LOW FUCKING MAINTENANCE stain/sealer. I almost don't even give a fuck what color, just LOW FUCKING MAINTENANCE.

striker
04-26-2008, 07:31 PM
Why are you wasting so much time stripping and sanding? I rented a floor sander from Home Depot for 4 hrs, sanded my entire deck (15 by 30) then restained it. That was two years ago, I'll have to restain the high traffic portion of it this year.

distortion9
04-26-2008, 07:47 PM
The deck has this latex kinda shit on it that was "peeling"...I just went with the chemical stripper and sprayed it on, scrubbed the balls off it then rinsed.

I have an orbital sander and a shitload of sanding disks...it's an odd shaped deck with lots of nooks and crannies....orbital it is.

Sam_Adams
04-26-2008, 08:54 PM
The deck has this latex kinda shit on it that was "peeling"...I just went with the chemical stripper and sprayed it on, scrubbed the balls off it then rinsed.

I have an orbital sander and a shitload of sanding disks...it's an odd shaped deck with lots of nooks and crannies....orbital it is.

I would have just spent $100 and bought a pressure washer. Fuck scraping things off. That's for your kids to do as punishment.

Jambi
04-26-2008, 08:57 PM
I have no advice for you now... but when it comes time to replace the decking, go with a composite. No warping, no fading, no splinters, no rotting. It's worth the extra money.

edit: and more importantly, no maintenance.

poppAwoody
04-26-2008, 09:06 PM
hahaha, this is exactly how I feel about the renovating I am doing, lol

thegreatgazoo
04-26-2008, 09:09 PM
Why are you wasting so much time stripping and sanding? I rented a floor sander from Home Depot for 4 hrs, sanded my entire deck (15 by 30) then restained it. That was two years ago, I'll have to restain the high traffic portion of it this year.



Any problems with the pressure treated wood? I need to redo mine but everyone tells me I can't sand it down because of the chemicals. Just want to make sure I don't kill my dogs or something if I do it.

distortion9
04-26-2008, 09:16 PM
I would have just spent $100 and bought a pressure washer. Fuck scraping things off. That's for your kids to do as punishment.

I have one and was also using that too but you have to be careful, they tear the shit out of the wood.

cosmic cow
04-26-2008, 09:24 PM
I have no advice for you now... but when it comes time to replace the decking, go with a composite. No warping, no fading, no splinters, no rotting. It's worth the extra money.

edit: and more importantly, no maintenance.

I would have loved to used composite...but the prices are crazy......my $8,000.00 deck would have cost 3 times as much

Sam_Adams
04-26-2008, 10:36 PM
I would have loved to used composite...but the prices are crazy......my $8,000.00 deck would have cost 3 times as much

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http://www.southern-tool.com/store/media/hudson/H2HG2.jpg

striker
04-27-2008, 12:56 AM
I used a floor sander for the main portion and an orbital for the small areas, took me less than a weekend to sand and restain

Sinn Fein
04-27-2008, 01:06 AM
Any problems with the pressure treated wood? I need to redo mine but everyone tells me I can't sand it down because of the chemicals. Just want to make sure I don't kill my dogs or something if I do it.

Pressure-treated wood contains arsenic. So, sanding it is going to put quite a bit of it into the air...

NoSurviivors
04-27-2008, 01:34 AM
post some pics.

what wood?

How built?

weeniewawa
04-27-2008, 03:06 AM
Any problems with the pressure treated wood? I need to redo mine but everyone tells me I can't sand it down because of the chemicals. Just want to make sure I don't kill my dogs or something if I do it.

are you sure the deck surface is pressure treated? usually just the supporting parts are in that wood and the deck top itself is natural since pressure treated wood won't stain or tint very good and it is usually perforated to get the chemicals into it

thegreatgazoo
04-27-2008, 08:26 AM
are you sure the deck surface is pressure treated? usually just the supporting parts are in that wood and the deck top itself is natural since pressure treated wood won't stain or tint very good and it is usually perforated to get the chemicals into it

Interesting. I just figured it was pressure treated. I got it from lowes, it was their top choice shit, very few imperfections. I just thought all of that wood was pressure treated.

BJQueen
04-27-2008, 11:44 AM
I need some suggestions for LOW FUCKING MAINTENANCE stain/sealer. I almost don't even give a fuck what color, just LOW FUCKING MAINTENANCE.




dried blood of neighbor's annoying kid may work

distortion9
04-27-2008, 01:22 PM
The hard part is basically over....I just need suggestions on what kind of finish to apply so I don't have to go through this shit again. Is there such thing as a low maintenance sealer finish that won't look like ass after 1 or 2 years?


When the deck was first built I applied stain but, after it dried, I wasn't crazy about the color. I lived with it for 2 years until it needed to be treated again. The next time, I cleaned the deck and applied a "solid" stain (almost paint-like). It was really, really nice...like a matte, chocolate brown. That lasted two years as well but, abuse from the dog and winter destroyed the finish.

It was all peeled, scratched and flaking...the natural, light color of the wood showed through dark stain where it was scratched making it look REALLY bad.

Am I better off just applying a clear sealer? I'm thinking that a clear finish won't show scratches as bad.

Owen Day
04-27-2008, 02:18 PM
Hate to break it to you, but any deck needs to be maintained continuously no matter how you slice it. Sanding is for queers. Your best bet with a wood deck is pressure washing thoroughly & staining/sealing. Use a gas-powered pressure washer with a medium to medium-high pressure nozzle. (You can easily get carried away when you use the higher pressure nozzles and you will splinter and otherwide mar the wood.) It's best to do this when you know you're going to have several days of warm, dry weather. You want the deck to dry pretty thoroughly after cleaning it before you apply any sealer.

If your not concerned with color, spend the money on the higher quality clear sealer and apply it liberally on every exposed wood surface that you can reach. You may want to apply further coats on the high traffic areas and less on the underside (if its accesssible, you should seal it) or fascia and rails to be frugal. Spray the rails and posts, or use a brush, and use a paint roller on a broomstick to do the flooring. Spread the sealer iberally and evenly. They have sponge type pads for painting that are similar to a swiffer. These work well to soak up excess and smooth out areas that have been freshly applied with the roller. If you have two broomsticks to use the roller and pad work very well in conjuction with one another. Do a second coat the same way.

You can rent both a sprayer and pressure washer at any HD or lowes etc and if you have other projects the rollers and other painting supplies are always good to have around.

You shouldn't have to do this again for at least two years, providing you try to keep it relatively clean throughout the different seasons. Keep leaves, puddles, snow, etc from accumulating or anything thats going to keep excessive moisture on the wood. Low pressure brush & rinses can be used as needed to keep keep dirt, mold, & fungus from accumulatimng. These all promote dry rot and you track them into your house. (For cleaning in between sealings, do not use the same pressure nozzle used to clean the wood before sealing it. This will just knock off your sealer and you'll shoot yourself in the foot.) A light brush with some soapy water and a low pressure rinse should suffice.

Composite decks still need to be cleaned or they can get pretty dirty, and now the asshole manufacturers are selling sealers and stains for the compsoite decks. Pay extra for it because you never have to stain or seal it, but plese buy our stains and sealers, cuz-y'know...we're cunts.

PM me with any questions.

Dopie Opie
04-27-2008, 02:49 PM
Green outdoor carpet

Digital_Trauma
04-27-2008, 03:34 PM
this stuff is supposed to be pretty good:
http://www.onetimewood.com/
7 year warranty sounds like a good thing

Sam_Adams
04-27-2008, 04:37 PM
this stuff is supposed to be pretty good:
http://www.onetimewood.com/
7 year warranty sounds like a good thing

Cool, I'll use that to seal my logs on my cabin once I get done putting it together.

tattered
04-27-2008, 04:40 PM
<-former carpenter

just get a good quality outdoor wood stain/sealer youll have to pressure wash it and restain it about 2-4yrs.

as far as compostite go yeah the stuff is nice but some of it during the summer it can get so hot you cant walk on it with bare feet or you will get burned badly

cosmic cow
04-27-2008, 09:22 PM
Pressure-treated wood contains arsenic. So, sanding it is going to put quite a bit of it into the air...

I don't think the newer pressure treated woods contain arsenic anymore, but I could be wrong

Hudson
04-27-2008, 09:25 PM
Love the wood floor..but a wood Deck..I hate the hairy nipple bitches myself....oh, you meant literally, my bad!

DonTheTrucker
04-27-2008, 09:54 PM
Cool, I'll use that to seal my logs on my cabin once I get done putting it together.

Just curious. Is there something you AREN'T doing or CAN'T do?

thegreatgazoo
04-28-2008, 10:02 AM
Pressure-treated wood contains arsenic. So, sanding it is going to put quite a bit of it into the air...

ok, thats what I have been told. This may be a dumb question but just how dangerous is it. I have three dogs who run around in the yard. Will walking on it effect them or tdo they have to ingest it. Just wondering if it's worth doing it if it will kill something.

Thanks.

Sinn Fein
04-28-2008, 11:33 AM
If it were me, I'd be doing it with a pressure washer. As someone else said, sanding is for queers.

thegreatgazoo
04-28-2008, 11:53 AM
If it were me, I'd be doing it with a pressure washer. As someone else said, sanding is for queers.

My problem is that pressure washing won't do it. I use to use an oil based paint on the deck and it was fine. For some reason, they banned it and had to use a water base which now caused a waxy film on it that won't come off, even with a pressure washer. That's why I have to sand it down to the bare wood.

Myhairygrundle
04-28-2008, 08:01 PM
My problem is that pressure washing won't do it. I use to use an oil based paint on the deck and it was fine. For some reason, they banned it and had to use a water base which now caused a waxy film on it that won't come off, even with a pressure washer. That's why I have to sand it down to the bare wood.


Ok, if you want to repaint the deck, use a really good primer and put on a couple of coats. That will make a good bonding surface for water based paint. If you are going over oil based paint, just seal and prime with some killz, or whatever and you can recoat with anything.

You can also think about using a garage floor type of paint. Just go to your local Sherwin Williams and tell them what your problem is. They should be able to set you up....