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RMM46
05-14-2008, 09:42 PM
Were O&A right? Could the pushback be happening?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080514/ap_on_re_us/foie_gras_ban

Chicago overturns ban on foie gras in restaurants By CARYN ROUSSEAU, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 56 minutes ago

Dining on foie gras — a delicacy made of duck and goose liver — will soon be legal again in Chicago.

The City Council on Wednesday repealed its two-year-old ban on the gourmet dish, drawing dissent from animal rights activists who consider foie gras cruel because the birds are force-fed to make their livers bigger.

But there were no worries in chef Didier Durand's restaurant, Cyrano's Bistrot.

"All of us are so excited," Durand told reporters as he held his pet duck, Nicolai, named after French President Nicolas Sarkozy. "People miss it. They used to go to the suburbs to get foie gras and stopped going to specifically French restaurants."

Durand was one of a coalition of restaurateurs who started Chicago Chefs for Choice, a movement to overturn the ban, which went into effect in August 2006. He said Wednesday that he would begin serving foie gras again as soon as the repeal goes into effect later this month.

"You might disagree with serving foie gras, but you don't do a ban and forbid everybody to have foie gras," Durand said. His restaurant was one of many across the city that held foie gras dinners in the days before the ban took effect.

The animal rights group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals called the repeal a political maneuver benefiting the restaurant industry. The Virginia-based organization said the council's first "compassionate decision was reversed in a secretive, rushed bow to special interests that benefit from the cruel treatment of animals."

Wednesday's vote was led by Mayor Richard M. Daley, who called the ban the silliest ordinance the council had ever passed. The repeal measure passed by a vote of 37-6 with no debate, an about-face from the original ban, which passed in April 2006 by a vote of 48-1.

During Wednesday's vote, the ban's original sponsor, Alderman Joe Moore, shouted his objections.

"It was a statement against animal cruelty, pure and simple," Moore said about his original intent, after Wednesday's vote.

Of the council's decision to repeal, he said: "They used a little parliamentary procedure avoiding any public hearing and debate on the measure. I don't think that's very healthy for a democracy or very healthy for the city."

Alderman Thomas Tunney, who brought the issue to vote, said the sentiments of most Chicagoans were served.

"Supporters of this legislation have accomplished their goal by raising awareness of this issue," Tunney said in a statement. "And while I respect their viewpoint, this is clearly a matter the council should stay out of and let the educated consumer and chefs make their own menu choices."

Doug Sohn, owner of Hot Doug's on the North Side, was fined $250 in March 2007 for a first-time offense of serving foie gras. While taking and serving orders at the self-titled "sausage superstore and encased meat emporium," Sohn said the repeal was the right decision.

"I certainly think it was a foolish decision in the first place," Sohn said. "I truly hope this ends it. There are real important issues in this city. This is certainly not one of them. I hope we're done with this nonsense."

The Illinois Restaurant Association, along with a local restaurant, had sued in federal court seeking to have the ban overturned, but a U.S. district judge dismissed the effort in June.

"As an industry, we think that menu offerings are best left to the individual restaurant operators, rather than being dictated by government," the association said in a statement Wednesday.

More than a dozen countries, mostly in Europe, have banned production of the delicacy. Similar measures have been considered in California, Maryland and Pennsylvania.

THE FEZ MAN
05-14-2008, 09:51 PM
good, but i dont think that's much of a push back. how about repealing the smokeing bans on privet property? how about punishing real criminals?....... its all horseshit

PDX909
05-15-2008, 01:36 AM
You have to respect the food you eat, whatever it is... foie gras from force-fed geese , and milk-fed crated veal calves is just a fucking disgrace. Sorry if that goes against the WB grain but that's me... I just can't do it, I'd rather go hungry.

BigTony
05-15-2008, 03:07 AM
More for me then.....
I respect it by shelling out my hard earned dollars to purchase it.
There's no "disgrace" just a matter of opinion. I respect those that choose not to eat/purchase foods like foie gras and veal but it is their choice and they should respect my choice which is to eat it.
Mmmmmmm.... foie gras and veal
Seriously, to each his own!

DonTheTrucker
05-15-2008, 03:10 AM
You have to respect the food you eat, whatever it is... foie gras from force-fed geese , and milk-fed crated veal calves is just a fucking disgrace. Sorry if that goes against the WB grain but that's me... I just can't do it, I'd rather go hungry.

Yeah, but foie gras is gooood.....veal is goooood....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0zJSgHDnpw

VMS
05-15-2008, 10:48 AM
You have to respect the food you eat, whatever it is... foie gras from force-fed geese , and milk-fed crated veal calves is just a fucking disgrace. Sorry if that goes against the WB grain but that's me... I just can't do it, I'd rather go hungry.

They are food. We are killing them and putting their bodies into our bodies. If you commit cannibalism, are you "respecting" the person you're eating?

Food is food. If you figure out a way to make the food tastier, then the food is tastier. If you, personally, have an objection to that, that's your business. I don't demand that your beliefs make sense to me. But don't you fucking DARE tell me what I can eat and what I can't eat (though I might make an exception for the aforementioned cannibalism). Otherwise, you're doing the same thing as Muslim assholes demanding that pork be banned, just coming from a different direction.

PDX909
05-15-2008, 04:00 PM
They are food. We are killing them and putting their bodies into our bodies. If you commit cannibalism, are you "respecting" the person you're eating?

Food is food. If you figure out a way to make the food tastier, then the food is tastier. If you, personally, have an objection to that, that's your business. I don't demand that your beliefs make sense to me. But don't you fucking DARE tell me what I can eat and what I can't eat (though I might make an exception for the aforementioned cannibalism). Otherwise, you're doing the same thing as Muslim assholes demanding that pork be banned, just coming from a different direction.

Hey, knock yourself out.. I'm not telling anyone what to do or what to eat. My problem is with the intentional mistreatment of animals to produce these products.. those beliefs are based upon nothing more than a healthy respect for all things, not religion or popular opinion.. So go ahead, eat all the foie gras you want, I hope you fucking choke on it.

grail
05-15-2008, 04:49 PM
Have you ever really seen how foie gras is produced? I mean really. Not the peta propoganda . Ducks and geese only store fat in the liver. The are fed the extra food 2 weeks before slaughter. They line up for the feeding. They have no gag reflex for the tube because their esophagus and larnyx are seperate (they breath through their tongues when the mouths are open). There's no cruelty or mistreatment there IMO. The ban was silly to begin with and no necessary. If the customer wants it, let them have it, me included because foie gras is tasty.

DJ Evel Ed
05-15-2008, 08:34 PM
I never understand meat eaters who are grossed out by eating cats, dogs, rats, horse or insects. It's meat, so if you can eat one thing, why is it so gross to eat a different animal? I'm vegetarian but I understand how people can eat this shit. If you can swallow veins, arteries and tumors from chickens & pigs, you should be able to eat anything.
None for me thanks.

I don't know enough about froi gras preparation to say whether it's cruel or not. Hopefully they treat the animal humanely.

SatansCheerledr
05-15-2008, 09:31 PM
veins, arteries and tumors from chickens & pigs taste good.

THE FEZ MAN
05-15-2008, 09:35 PM
veins, arteries and tumors from chickens & pigs taste good.

fuck yea, i love me some head cheese


pig cheek meat is the best piece of pork you will ever eat.

grail
05-16-2008, 11:59 AM
and hog jowl bacon is awesome. Perfect balance between fat, lean, smokey, salty.

Biff Hardslab
05-16-2008, 05:16 PM
I don't know enough about froi gras preparation to say whether it's cruel or not. Hopefully they treat the animal humanely.

Here you go:

How Foie Gras Is Produced (http://www.stopforcefeeding.com/page.php?module=article&article_id=15)



How Foie Gras Is Produced

http://www.stopforcefeeding.com/images/upload/liver.jpg
On the left is a normal duck liver. On the right is a force fed ducks liver.

Foie gras, considered by some to be a delicacy, is produced by forcing a long metal pipe down the throats of ducks and geese and force-feeding them massive amounts of grain, resulting in their livers swelling to up to 10 times their normal size.

Two to three times a day, a worker grabs each bird, shoves a long, thick metal tube all the way down his throat, and an air pump shoots up to two pounds of corn mush into his esophagus. The industry always refers to the dry weight of the feed, which is about one pound per feeding. Adding oil and water doubles this weight, making it 20-30% of the bird's healthy body weight. Picture 30 one pound boxes of dry pasta and then add water. This is proportionally how much a 150 pound human would be force fed using this formula.

A duck's liver naturally weighs around 50 grams. However, to qualify as foie gras, the industry's own regulations require ducks' livers to weigh an absolute minimum of 300 grams.

The vast amounts of feed pumped down the ducks' throats causes enormous internal pressure, and the pipe sometimes punctures the esophagus, causing many to die from choking on the blood that fills their lungs. Some birds literally burst, choke to death on their own vomit, or become so weak that they are unable to fend off rats from eating them alive (click to see footage from Sonoma Foie gras--requires Windows Media Player). Other ducks die a slow, painful, and premature death by suffocation from inhalation of regurgitated feed. In fact, because of the massive toll taken on the birds during the force-feeding process, the average pre-slaughter mortality rate is up to twenty times higher than on other duck factory farms, according to the European Union's Scientific Report on the subject.

According to the ASPCA, "The birds' livers become so enlarged…that according to documentation by veterinarians, the animals must experience unspeakable pain and suffering. Birds have literally exploded from these forced feedings. The results of necropsies on dead birds that have been force-fed reveal ruptured livers, throat damage, esophageal trauma, and food spilling from the dead animals' throats and out of their nostrils."

The ASPCA has police power to enforce the animal cruelty law in New York State and has filed charges against Commonwealth Enterprises, now Hudson Valley Foie Gras, in the past for force feeding ducks. Because it is a multi-million dollar enterprise with a lot of political clout in rural Sullivan County, the elected District Attorney dropped the charges. The ASPCA wrote a letter to New York Attorney General Elliot Spitzer in late 2001 calling for him to take action, but thus far he has not.

In addition to enduring force-feeding, the birds also suffer the same neglectful and abusive treatment of other factory-farmed animals: overcrowding, mutilations (their beaks are cut off), all their natural instincts and desires-such as interacting in social groups, mating freely, keeping themselves clean, nurturing their young, exploring their surroundings-thwarted, and eventually being sent to a violent death by slaughter. Throughout the weeks of force-feeding, the birds are kept in either a group pen or an individual cage with only wire or plastic-mesh floors to stand and sleep on. Unable to feel the sun on their backs or ground beneath their feet, the ducks are held in cages so small that they cannot fully stand or stretch their wings.

To make matters worse, the ducks and geese are housed without access to swimming water even though ducks need to be able to immerse themselves in water to remain healthy. Access to water on these farms is so limited that the ducks cannot adequately clean their nostrils and eyes, which can lead to blindness.


http://www.stopforcefeeding.com/images/france/gallery/DCP_0979.jpg

http://www.stopforcefeeding.com/images/france/gallery/Dcp_0983.jpg

http://www.stopforcefeeding.com/images/france/gallery/Dcp_0981.jpg

http://www.stopforcefeeding.com/images/france/gallery/Dcp_0980.jpg

http://www.stopforcefeeding.com/images/france/gallery/Dcp_0982.jpg

I can't understand why anyone would think any of this is cruel. Looks like the duck is have a great ol' time and should be happy he isn't living on its normal diet of bugs and grass. Most ducks have to sleep outside and face the elements. Not this lucky fella, he gets his own spacious cage covered in nice warm vomit. What's not to like? Those ducks should feel safe and secure knowing they won't have to take thier chances against any hunters, or get into arguments with a rabbit about what season it is.

SatansCheerledr
05-16-2008, 06:27 PM
fuck yea, i love me some head cheese


pig cheek meat is the best piece of pork you will ever eat.

Face is the best part of any amimal.

THE FEZ MAN
05-16-2008, 10:09 PM
Face is the best part of any amimal.

second only to testicle

jackjack
05-16-2008, 10:21 PM
and hog jowl bacon is awesome. Perfect balance between fat, lean, smokey, salty.

There's an interesting coincidence. I had never heard of hog jowl bacon, and never saw it in a store until this afternoon. Saw a couple trays of it near the ham section at the local Publix. Mere hours later I read this endorsement.
Now I must return and purchase what was earlier just a curiousity.