Priest Bans Autistic Boy From Church

[Stalker2]

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Adam Race

Priest Bans Autistic Boy From Church

Mom Told She'd Be Sent to Jail if She Brought Autistic Son to Church

BERTHA, Minn.
May 19, 2008
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A Catholic priest has filed a restraining order against the parents of a severely autistic 13-year-old boy in an effort to keep him from attending the church in Bertha on Sundays.

Priest files restraining order against parents with "unruly" autistic 13-yr-old.

The Rev. Daniel Walz alleges that Adam Race's unruly behavior endangers others who attend the Church of St. Joseph.
Race's parents have ignored the restraining order, calling it discriminatory, and Carol Race, Adam's mother, was cited by police and is due to appear in court on Monday for violating the order.
"He said that we did not discipline our son. He said that our son was physically out of control and a danger to everyone at church," Carol Race said. "I can't discipline him out of his autism, and I think that's what our priest is expecting."
Carol Race said it all started last June, when Walz and a church trustee visited the Races at their home address the behavior of Adam, who stands taller than six feet and weighs more than 225 pounds.

LINK: http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4885322&page=1

[Ted the Poster]

Of course he's banned from church. He's obviously possessed by Satan.

[WhiskeyWhispers]

...who stands taller than six feet and weighs more than 225 pounds.

I wouldn't want to sit next to a giant retard anywhere, with the way they flail their arms around and drool all over the place like idiots. His parents should keep him in the basement chained to a radiator where he belongs.

[Ted the Poster]

I wouldn't want to sit next to a giant retard anywhere, with the way they flail their arms around and drool all over the place like idiots. His parents should keep him in the basement chained to a radiator where he belongs.

That better be one big fucking radiator. Six feet, 225 pounds translates to 11 feet tall and 800 pounds of retard strength.

[peas hode]

That better be one big fucking radiator. Six feet, 225 pounds translates to 7'4" tall and 520 pounds of retard strength from Grenoble Fraaaance.

fixed it for ya

[Ted the Poster]

fixed it for ya

Only if he's autistique.

[HummerTuesdays]

What's the problem? No mass is televised on Minnesota? Find a church with a quiet room/kids area. Problem solved.

[Sidekick Dave]

As someone who is on the spectrum, I am outraged. I will go to that church myself and pull a Rosa Parks. If I go to jail, then I've made my statement. This is discrimination. I will fight this case. It's been a long time-a-coming.

[Glenn Dandy]

Let me put it into perspective.....


The priest doesn't want the Autism kid scaring away the paying customers.


Hypocrite.

God loves everyone right? fucking creep.

my son and me or his mom went to a baby room the church had....instead of a restraining order... mayby a fund drive to make a special erea for him and his parents.

this is so typical of the complete lack of understanding Autism.


theres always those stoooopid people that would complain that we were bad parents that cant teach our son to be un Autistic... because it was just rooooning their day..


FUCK YOU.

[Edible Napalm]

Let me put it into perspective.....


The priest doesn't want the Autism kid scaring away the paying customers.


Hypocrite.

God loves everyone right? fucking creep.

my son and me or his mom went to a baby room the church had....instead of a restraining order... mayby a fund drive to make a special erea for him and his parents.

this is so typical of the complete lack of understanding Autism.


theres always those stoooopid people that would complain that we were bad parents that cant teach our son to be un Autistic... because it was just rooooning their day..


FUCK YOU.

:clap::clap::clap:

Brav-fucking-O, Glenn you put it prefectly.

[wes mantooth]

I will go to that church myself and pull a Rosa Parks.



You're gonna be an uppity old black woman?

[Stormrider666]

Let me put it into perspective.....


The priest doesn't want the Autism kid scaring away the paying customers.


Hypocrite.

God loves everyone right? fucking creep.

my son and me or his mom went to a baby room the church had....instead of a restraining order... mayby a fund drive to make a special erea for him and his parents.

this is so typical of the complete lack of understanding Autism.


theres always those stoooopid people that would complain that we were bad parents that cant teach our son to be un Autistic... because it was just rooooning their day..


FUCK YOU.

Thank you Mr.President for putting into perspective. So much for all that charitable mentality I hear about churches.

[THE FEZ MAN]

one more reason for me to hate organized religion i hope the retard burns the place down with the badly r@ped priest tied to the alter inside, with the collection basket shoved up his ass

[Sidekick Dave]

You're gonna be an uppity old black woman?
Eh...What Glenn Dandy said.

[Jef Leppard]

yea theres gotta be a civil rights violation there somewhere

[Plunkies]

I bet the priest is just mad because his exorcism failed to extract the devil from him. But in the church's defense I can't imagine how obnoxious a 200+ pound autistic kid can be.

[weakside]

Isn't religion wonderful? What a disgusting joke we humans played on ourselves.

[Glenn Dandy]

I bet the priest is just mad because his exorcism failed to extract the devil from him. But in the church's defense I can't imagine how obnoxious a 200+ pound autistic kid can be.

Probably not as bad as sitting through fucking church.... Might actually liven the place up.:icon_neut


BLEEEEECH, Church.

[BlackNinja]

Let me put it into perspective.....


The priest doesn't want the Autism kid scaring away the paying customers.


Hypocrite.

God loves everyone right? fucking creep.

my son and me or his mom went to a baby room the church had....instead of a restraining order... mayby a fund drive to make a special erea for him and his parents.

this is so typical of the complete lack of understanding Autism.


theres always those stoooopid people that would complain that we were bad parents that cant teach our son to be un Autistic... because it was just rooooning their day..


FUCK YOU.

whats your opinion, playing devil's advocate. we're in such a sue happy society. lets say because hes a little unruly something minor happens, not even like an altercation, but maybe someone trips and falls, then tries to sue the church, and they're in some hot water?

i do agree with you though, especially about disrupting the "paying customers" but i dont think its so much their not understanding autism, as much as it is a dick/insensitve move or trying to avoid a situation where they'd have to pay out. i think he knows what hes doing

[DonTheTrucker]

Why this picture of a retard for a story about an autistic kid? Two different things.

And while the church has the right to be so crude, the patrons also have the right to stop going and put the insensitive fucks out of business.

[Glenn Dandy]

thats what insurance is for #1...

#2 Autistic kids are not really that disruptive as they are " fucking creepy" they make wierd sounds loudly at odd times,,, and to a layman act like someone very dangerous.. the general public has a very definite discomfort around them.

your standard issue retard is pretty quiet and well behaved.....Autistic kids have siezures, the feelings of things crawling on them, frustration from lack of communication..

to describe an Autistic kid... atleast bad ones like mine... Would be to picture someone on PCP... one minute chill.... next minute freaking the fuck out.

I understand the discomfort people feel. There is no dought this Priest is acting because of complaints, and threats of leaving.....Honest Indian... A church needs people to attend if they plan on staying in business.

the true guilty party here in my oppinion are the church goers lack of compassion and general disregard for anyone but themselves... not very Christianlike.

These poor people caring for this kids life is " TRUST ME " pure hell.... and its very sad that not even the church can reach out in a helpful understanding way.


these fucking religous dillholes just want to drag there ass to church on Sunday... get it over with in the least problematic manner... get home and look down on society.

you hear me preach hate on religeon... I will say this... As my father taught me.

"Religeon is good, if it gets a family together for breakfast, away from the TV off to church to hear a few good words. that is better than most of societys activitys."

but at this church... I fear the children there arent hearing good... they are learning to smite their brother because he is different...

not, everyone is created in the image of god as equals.




In summary... a church is SUPPOSE to be a place someone facing something difficult like Autism should be able to go and get compassion.


Or it could be as simple as.....the Priest just isn't attracted to him.

[Xyn]

Good for him. God doesn't like the waterheads. Why else would he have made them so dumb and ugly? This reverend is on the fast track to sainthood.

[Stalker2]

Why this picture of a retard for a story about an autistic kid? Two different things.


WTF thats him,check your fire.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080519/autistic_church_080519/20080519?hub=CTVNewsAt11

[B54]

Why this picture of a retard for a story about an autistic kid? Two different things.

And while the church has the right to be so crude, the patrons also have the right to stop going and put the insensitive fucks out of business.

WTF thats him,check your fire.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080519/autistic_church_080519/20080519?hub=CTVNewsAt11

Looks like someone else is the retard.

[DonTheTrucker]

WTF thats him,check your fire.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080519/autistic_church_080519/20080519?hub=CTVNewsAt11

Hope that didn't come across as mean spirited, I thought it was just one of the silly picutres you usually put in your news posts. No harm done, I just know we have a few folks here with autistic kids, I didn't wanna see you get on their bad side by accident.

Looks like someone else is the retard.

Yes, I obviously have a brain problem. Think you can fix it for me? Or are you busy with a counter terrorism operation tonight? Or in a Texas jail? Or [mod edit]? :action-sm

[BeerBelly]

Over 6' 225 and retard strength ? I beg to differ!

[Big Fat Steve]

Or it could be as simple as.....the Priest just isn't attracted to him.:haha7::haha7::haha7::haha7:

[Sidekick Dave]

Why this picture of a retard for a story about an autistic kid? Two different things.

And while the church has the right to be so crude, the patrons also have the right to stop going and put the insensitive fucks out of business.
Nevermind.

[kimothee]

Gawd knows I'm all for mainstreaming the physically and/or mentally impaired (I'm the first generation of students where it was legally mandated for people with disabilities to be provided with equal public education), and I'm all about integrating people into regular society if all possible.

That being said, I actually *shudder* agree with the church on this one, and I hate organized religion.

This young man is 6' tall, 225 lbs, and, in articles about this story (http://wcco.com/local/autistic.son.family.2.726391.html), has been prone to urinating in public and injuring another child according to the priest. That type of behavior is unsafe and unsanitary for all of the rest of the parishoners. Depending on the type of care and training his is receiving from his family and educators and the severity of his autism, he may just not be able to handle the setting of the church. Is this his fault? No. Do the other parishoners have the right to not be urinated upon? Yes.

Throughout my life, I have seen plenty of mentally/emotionally impaired people function fine in general society, including those with autism. Yes, sometimes their behaviors can be odd, but that's just part of who they are. Being odd or different is a totally different ballgame than being unsafe to others.

[DonTheTrucker]

That being said, I actually *shudder* agree with the church on this one, and I hate organized religion.

It really has nothing to do with religion the way I see it. If the kid were doing this in a Wal Mart they'd have the same right to kick him out. If the customers don't like it they have the right to not go there.

The free market works WONDERS for sorting this kind of thing out.

[EarthCrisis]

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/93/ghaut222jy4.jpg
Just by seeing this picture alone this kid looks like a problem. I'd love to see him in the cage with Rampage Jackson, just set his stuffed animals on fire and watch him destroy everyone

[Sprite]

When asked about why he wasn't allowed in church the boy responded, "They let me out of the nervous hospital. Said I was well...mmmmhhhmmm."

[weakside]

Gawd knows I'm all for mainstreaming the physically and/or mentally impaired (I'm the first generation of students where it was legally mandated for people with disabilities to be provided with equal public education), and I'm all about integrating people into regular society if all possible.

That being said, I actually *shudder* agree with the church on this one, and I hate organized religion.

This young man is 6' tall, 225 lbs, and, in articles about this story (http://wcco.com/local/autistic.son.family.2.726391.html), has been prone to urinating in public and injuring another child according to the priest. That type of behavior is unsafe and unsanitary for all of the rest of the parishoners. Depending on the type of care and training his is receiving from his family and educators and the severity of his autism, he may just not be able to handle the setting of the church. Is this his fault? No. Do the other parishoners have the right to not be urinated upon? Yes.

Throughout my life, I have seen plenty of mentally/emotionally impaired people function fine in general society, including those with autism. Yes, sometimes their behaviors can be odd, but that's just part of who they are. Being odd or different is a totally different ballgame than being unsafe to others.

It really has nothing to do with religion the way I see it. If the kid were doing this in a Wal Mart they'd have the same right to kick him out. If the customers don't like it they have the right to not go there.

The free market works WONDERS for sorting this kind of thing out.

Both of you make excellent points. And I think most of us would agree that as long as a business or any other institution has made fair accommodations for this sort of thing it would in fact be appropriate to ask the family to either comply with those accommodations or else politely ask them to leave. I believe even those with developmentally disabled children would agree with that.

But to me the point here is that religion, more than any other institution, preaches (pun intended) that they welcome everybody into their "flock" and keep love and understanding as their main guiding factors above all else. Supposedly this is what separates organized religion from everything else since “the will of God” overrides the will (and law) of man, at least that's what they claim when they try to force their beliefs into the educational system despite our constitution saying otherwise. I guess the will of God is only pertains when it's convenient for them. It's just yet another example of the hypocrisy that exists in organized religion.*

*As well, although I certainly can’t claim to know this for sure, but if this family were donating huge amounts of money to the church something tells me that this kid (who frankly I’m sure doesn’t even want to be in church anyway) would be more than welcome.

[weakside]

Being odd or different is a totally different ballgame than being unsafe to others.

This is true, and if this truly is the case it renders my previous point invalid. But again, although I can't claim to know this is absolutely the case but other than a minor incident with another kid, I don't think the story mentioned any other time where someone got hurt as a result of this kid's actions. Despite what the church is saying, who really knows how dangerous the incidents that had occurred actually were?

[d0uche_n0zzle]

A padded retard cage for the out of control yute.

May the POWER of Christ compel him...

[bill333]

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/93/ghaut222jy4.jpgjust set his stuffed animals on fire and watch him destroy everyone

:haha7: :haha7: :haha7:

If this were any other institution, I would say ok, but these fucking hypocrites sit on their high and mighty thrones, spewing about love and kindness, fellow man, and how ALL are God's children (well, except the Blacks and the Jews). - what's next, the priest screaming in a fit of rage at a baby crying? Fuck them.

Now, as a non-religious person... did you see his eyebrow ridge? That's just down right scary.

GD- I like what your father had to say. My family is religious but I don't have any regrets of going to church as a kid. It doesn't have to be religion but families should instill a good foundation of morals and respect. I wouldn't be on the face of this earth, if I spoke to my father the way I see kids speak to their parents.

[Big Fat Steve]

The free marketNot many people believe in this sort of thing anymore in this former republic.:arrrh:

[Xyn]

Not many people believe in this sort of thing anymore in this former republic.:arrrh:

A church that is tax exempt is now a part of the free market? Good to know. :arrrh:

[WhiteHonkyDevil]

But Walz told authorities he has spoken to the parents and the parish has tried to offer "many options for accommodations that would assist the family while protecting the safety of parishioners. (But) the family refused those offers of accommodation."

Walz told authorities in an affidavit that Adam's behaviour had become progressively worse. During one incident, he alleges that Adam assaulted a girl. In another, he said Adam ran into a vehicle in the church parking lot, started its ignition, and revved its engine.

Yeah, but the priest is being a dick, right?

[TrashyMags]

One of those accomodations was a separate, individual mass for the family at their convience. They refused. I'm sorry, but I think the church is right. He's 13, 6 feet and 225 lbs and has been known to pee, lash out and (also not reported in this article but has been in other local coverage) pull women onto his lap. His parents have to sit on him sometimes to make him behave.

No offense to people who have kids with issues like this, but i don't understand the point of taking them to church at all. I mean, if they can't grasp basic concepts like how to tie their shoes and use the restroom properly, how will they grasp a concept like faith, belief, religion and God? Seems to me it's just another way for the parents to pretend they're "normal."

[weakside]

One of those accomodations was a separate, individual mass for the family at their convience. They refused. I'm sorry, but I think the church is right. He's 13, 6 feet and 225 lbs and has been known to pee, lash out and (also not reported in this article but has been in other local coverage) pull women onto his lap. His parents have to sit on him sometimes to make him behave.

Yeah, the truth is you are probably right and my bias against organized religion may have clouded this issue for me. And if this were any other institution I would definitely agree that the accommodations offered were fair. I have just witnessed so much hypocrisy from organized religion that I find it hard to defend them even on an issue where they appear to be right.

However, I do still stand by my assumption that if this family had been massive donators to the church that the priest probably would have promoted the ideals of empathy and acceptance in regards to the family to the other members of the church rather than boot them out.

In any case, I also agree with your point that there really isn't any reason for the kid to be in church anyway. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t even want to be there.