iPhone 2.0 : Details

[SOS]

Live From S.F.: The Steve Jobs Show (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/09/live-from-sf-apple-ceo-steve-jobs-unveils-new-products/?ref=technology)

Written backwards.

2:17 p.m. EDT| Rules for New iPhone Applications:

* Developers set the price and keep 70 percent of the revenue, Mr.Jobs said.
* Free apps will be available on the Apple applications store for free. Apple isn’t taking a commission.
* Big apps will be downloaded through a computer.
* Enterprises can distribute applications to phones on their own network securely.

2:12 p.m. EDT| New Features of the iPhone 2.0 Software:

* Contact search
* Full iWork document support
* Support of Microsoft documents beyond Word, including PowerPoint and Excel.
* A scientific calculator — turn your phone to landscape mode to make the calculator switch.
* More languages, including the ability to draw kanji (Chinese characters) on the screen.

The software will be released in early July, free for all iPhone owners and $10 for iTouch users.

2:01 p.m. EDT| The Flow of Applications Seems Endless:

* Cow Music — a tool to turn your iPhone into a musical instrument, such as drums, a piano or a guitar. No price was given.
* MLB.com — The official Web site of Major League Baseball developed software to show video highlights of games minutes after the play.
* Modality — The software company created an application that displays medical textbook applications for students. It plans to have other flash-card-type educational applications.
* MIMvista — It created a medical application for doctors to display and manipulate diagnostic images while they are on the golf course.
* Digital Legends Entertainment — Another game, this one an action-adventure title. Count on games being a big category for the Apple iPhone applications store.

1:46 p.m. EDT| Still More Applications:

* TypePad — A blogging application, free from the Apple apps store.
* Associated Press — The international news service created a news feed to provide local news based on the user’s location. It wants people to send news stories and photos from the phone. The AP Mobile News Network will be free.
* Pangea Software — It has developed two games, one of which is a 3-D game featuring cavemen driving race cars. The iPhone is the steering wheel for the game. Also $10.

1:42 p.m. EDT| Another Application:
Loopt — A location-based service linked to a social network, Loopt locates friends on a map. (The service is available for other phones, but Loopt says this version is better than any of the others.) It will be a free service.

By the way, I was wrong on Monkey Ball’s price. It’s $9.99. I corrected it below.

1:34 p.m. EDT| Apple Shows Off New Game and eBay Interface: The tools have been available to developers for about three months.The company is showing off some of the developers’ results:

* Super Monkey Ball from Sega — A game with 110 stages and all four monkeys. (The game is like Nintendo’s Mario series.) It makes use of the iPhones accelerometer so the iPhone becomes a game console. Not cheap, though. (My colleague John Markoff corrects me.) The game is cheap. Sega is selling it for $100$9.99.
* eBay — An application for participating in auctions from the phone with a new interface. (The interface is a lot easier to use than the eBay Website accessible from a computer.

1:24 p.m. EDT| Location-Based Services: The iPhone in business will have an address book of all company employees and allow access to documents on a corporate server.

Apple is letting developers working on the iPhone 2.0, which is what Apple is calling the new version during this presentation, create location-based services for the phone. For instance, a developer can build a program that can locate all the contacts in the phone’s address book within five miles of where the phone user is.

1:15 p.m. EDT| The iPhone Moves Into the Enterprise: Apple is giving a sneak preview of the new operating system later this afternoon to developers.

Mr. Jobs starts with emphasizing the iPhone for the enterprise. He doesn’t mention the BlackBerry, but this is the market that Research in Motion dominates. Apple wants in. Mr. Jobs says 35 percent of Fortune 500 companies have tested the iPhone. So have many major universities.

[MrBogey]

Can it be tethered to a laptop? Can it have an unlimited data plan?

[BusyChild04]

for some reason I am excited about the new iphone. I'm plannning on getting it. Now what to do with my current iphone, I don't know. Maybe rip off some mexican like I usually do.

[Chino Kapone]

soooo... is this just the new softwear or is this the new iphone? Will the new softwear work with the old iphone? I am sooo confused "whaa"

[SOS]

Apple unveils 'iPhone 3G' (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/phones/2008-06-09-iphone-3g_N.htm)

It seems that there will be an update to the current iPhone's software as well as a new hardware model with more software features.

[Biff Hardslab]

A year after people spent $500 to $600 on a phone, Apple is releasing a better version of the same phone for only $200? And Apple bricked any phone they found out that was being modified by the OWNER of the phone?

http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/owned/1/721950315_l1.jpg

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

eh, I won't buy one till Verizon buys out whoever it is that offers it.

[Steam]

I can't wait. I've been waiting for this day for a while now so I'm a little disappointed that I have to wait another month. But since its a Friday in July I will be off so I plan on waiting in line to get mine.

Fed Ex can't fuck me over this time.

[moegolden]

steve jobs seems way too thin right now. people are getting worried about his old cancer.

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/06/09/apple-posts-video-of-keynote-presentation/#comments

[Buds Spuckley]

A year after people spent $500 to $600 on a phone, Apple is releasing a better version of the same phone for only $200? And Apple bricked any phone they found out that was being modified by the OWNER of the phone?

http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/owned/1/721950315_l1.jpg


No apple didnt brick anyones phone, if you unlocked it to use on Tmobile and upgraded the software before the new unlock was released then your phone was useless, it wasnt bricked but was locked and wouldnt ecognized the Tmobile sim.

Apple created the AppStore because of the number of people "jailbreaking" their phone and installing 3rd party apps. Apple realized it was a losing battle so they are releasing the AppStore as part of the new software 2.0

The software 2.0 is for all iPhones, the new iPhone released today has real time GPS as well as uses the 3g network. The software on it will be Version 2.0

ATT and Apple will now be activating them in the stores so that you cant unlock them and use them on another network. Thats why the phone is so cheap ATT subsidises it and makes sure youre locked to their network.

[cokelogic]

I need to know two things:
1) I have an iPod Touch, am I going to get a firmware update that gives me access to all this goodness.

2) Can I finally view flash content on web pages?

These are my two big concerns with the upgrade hype.

[Buds Spuckley]

I need to know two things:
1) I have an iPod Touch, am I going to get a firmware update that gives me access to all this goodness.

2) Can I finally view flash content on web pages?

These are my two big concerns with the upgrade hype.

1) Yes for $9.95

2) No flash support in 2.0

[Jef Leppard]

fuck iphones

with my mogul.....

installing 3rd party apps
with no problem what so ever
real time GPS
have had it
3g network
i discovered EV-DO Rev A is alot faster
you cant unlock them
unlock and lock all i want, and use w/ any cdma carrier(tho theres soon to be only 2)
2) No flash support in 2.0
sucks to be an iphone


i can tether undected (thaks to 3rd party apps)

im even a wifi hotspot (undetected by carrier thanks to 3rd party apps)

i might toss the 10 bones to upgrade the itouch but as far as a phone goes ill stick with windows mobile 6.1

[Chino Kapone]

iphone is the best wingman out there

I am perfectly happy with mine.

when you hand the phone to the girl to put the number in...

they always smile, or make a silly comment about it.... :D

[Jef Leppard]

get a puppy

[DanaReevesLungs]

ATT and Apple will now be activating them in the stores so that you cant unlock them and use them on another network. Thats why the phone is so cheap ATT subsidises it and makes sure youre locked to their network.

Sir...any GSM phone is able to be unlocked. Regardless of what Apple and AT&T do to try to prevent the subsidy unlock codes from being "given" out, they will make their way out there. I used to be able to tell you any SUC with the IMEI #.

They're making it to where the phone is activated in store so this way there isn't the clusterfuck they had last year. Apple is still using the Itunes activation process, but to avoid such a huge volume of calls into customer service, they're going to let Apple and AT&T sales reps handle the activations, hopefully resulting in much less confusion and calls

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/

By now even your grandmother knows what Apple announced today. But what about the fine print? What about the $199 and $299 pricing? Well, as some of you might have guessed, those prices are only with contracts with a carrier. We just got a hold of an internal AT&T email to store managers and it details almost every single detail of Apple’s iPhone 3G. Here’s a list of the most important/interesting points we found, followed by the entire email:

* iPhone 3G will be activated at point of sale when the device is purchased in store.
* Return period has been changed from 14 days to 30 days
* $199 and $299 pricing is for new activations or qualified upgrades with a 2-year agreement
* 2G iPhone data rate plans will remain available for 2G device suntil further notice
* The new iPhone 3G data plan is $30/month and includes unlimited data and visual voicemail
* There is not a no commitment price. This means you can’t just walk in and bang $500 on your credit card and walk out.
* If you are an existing iPhone customer in good standing, you will be able to extend your contract for two years when the iPhone 3G launches and get the ill-na-na $199/$299 price point. Doesn’t matter when you bought an iPhone either.
* AT&T and Apple stores “unbrick” the iPhone 3G at time of purchase, but for some reason if that doesn’t happen, you’ll be required to use iTunes at home.
* Pre-paid and Pick Your Plan will not be allowed on iPhone 3G
* Device purchase limit remains at (3) per customer in AT&T stores.
* 2G iPhones to remain as demo models in AT&T stores “until further notice”.
* AT&T stores will get rate brochures, 22 x 28 posters, and window banners
* Launch day will mirror last year’s launch. This includes extended store hours, crowd controls, etc. Security will be provided to stores requesting armed police or guards.
* AT&T is working with Apple to roll out GPS-enabled applications.

There you have, folks! Almost everything you wanted to know, and a lot of stuff you didn’t. Full email is after the break!

UPDATE: There’s a second email below, too!

Updated email sent out.... (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/06/09/iphone-3g-the-details-you-never-wanted-to-know/#more-3885)

AT&T and Apple today announced that the iPhone 3G will be available in the U.S on July 11. iPhone 3G combines three products into one small, lightweight device: a revolutionary mobile phone, a widescreen iPod, and it puts the Internet in your pocket with the best e-mail, web browsing, search and maps applications ever on a mobile phone.

The new version of the iPhone harnesses the power of AT&T’s broad and powerful 3G mobile broadband network, which offers 3G mobile phones download speeds of up to 1.4 Mbps.

Key Device Features:

Operates on Wi-Fi, EDGE, and 3G networks
New enterprise e-mail capability with support for Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync
New iPhone software development kit (SDK) to support new innovative applications
Note: 2G iPhone customers will be able to download the iPhone 2.0 software from iTunes which enables new features such as access to corporate e-mail via Microsoft ActiveSync.

New Activation Process and BRE:
The iPhone 3G will be activated at point of sale when the device is purchased, in store. The BRE period will change from 14 days to 30 days and will require the device to be returned to place of purchase before service is cancelled.

Pricing and Plans
Device Pricing:
$199 8GB and $299 16GB for new activations and qualified upgrades with 2-year agreement.

Data Plans and Pricing:
The iPhone 3G will be activated on existing AT&T voice rate plans, but new data plans have been created for the 3G device.

All iPhone 3G customers are required to have one of the new data plans and qualifying voice plan.
Customers intending to use the iPhone 3G for access to corporate e-mail, business applications, or access to corporate intranet are required to activate with Enterprise Data Plan for iPhone.
The 2G data rate plans will remain available for 2G devices until further notice.
IRU service discounts for both voice and data pans will apply to iPhone 3G, but not 2G iPhone.
CRU service discounts for voice and data will apply to both 2G and 3G, when on a qualifying data plan.
IRUs will not get a discount on device purchase for 2G or iPhone 3Gs.
Data Pricing will be as follows:
Consumer Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$30 - Unlimited Data (E-mail/Web), includes Visual Voicemail

Enterprise Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$45 – Unlimited Data with personal and corporate e-mail, web, includes Visual Voicemail

Upgrade Eligibility and Qualified Upgrade Pricing
Upgrade eligibility will be determined based on standard upgrade eligibility rules. Customers must be upgrade eligible to receive the qualified upgrade pricing. However, not all customers will be qualified upgrades. AT&T has not determined the price of the 3G device for non-qualified upgrades.

All customers will be required to sign a 2-year agreement. There will not be a “no commitment” price for the iPhone 3G.

Note: When the 3G device launches, all active postpaid customers in good standing with a 2G iPhone will be eligible to receive the qualified upgrade pricing for a 3G device regardless of service tenure. (Customers that would not otherwise be eligible due to tenure will be made eligible at launch).

Activation Process
The new 3G device will be activated in store in both AT&T and Apple stores. Customers must accept AT&T and Apple Ts & Cs, sign a 2-year agreement, and select the data plan for the iPhone 3G before leaving the store. The current iTunes activation process will no longer be required for iPhone 3Gs, however a short tether process to unbrick the 3G device will be performed in all AT&T stores (tether cords will be provided). Apple stores will also perform this tether process, however in the event that a customer’s device is not tethered in the Apple store, their device will be inoperable until they get home and tether through iTunes. Prepaid and Pick Your Plan will not be allowed on the 3G device.

The SSK has been modified to allow customers interested in the iPhone 3G to enter their information, select rate plans and data plans, and print a document that will allow COR reps to quickly access the customer’s information in OPUS and save time for data entry in the activation process.

Note: In the interim, 2G iPhones will continue to be activated via iTunes - BAU. This is also true for existing AT&T customers who receive a 2G device as a gift, hand-me-down, etc. and wish to activate the device. Existing AT&T customers who switch to the 2G iPhone must tether through the iTunes process to begin using the device.

Compensation
Because the 3G device will be activated in store, compensation for the 3G device will be BAU. COR reps will receive compensation for upgrades and new activations with a 2-year agreement.

Purchase Limit
The device purchase limit will remain three (3) per customer for iPhone 3G in AT&T stores.

Allocations
If allocations are required at launch, supply chain will allocate based on January-April sales rates applied on a store-by-store basis.

Direct Fulfillment
The DF tool will be available at launch in COR for iPhone 3Gs. Customers will be required to pay for the device when the order is placed and the phone will be shipped to the store in the customer’s name.

Existing Stock of 2G Devices
We will continue to sell 2G devices until stock is depleted.

Return Policy
2G Devices
Customers who recently purchased a 2G iPhone may want to return their device once they hear about the 3G model and price point, but the new device will not be available immediately. Since the announcement and launch will be about 30 days apart, we could lose some customers who are within their BRE period and want to return their device before their 14 days expires and wait for the new 3G device. We must acknowledge and address their desire to get the best device for them.

Here’s how AT&T will handle 2G iPhone returns:

If a customer purchased before 5/27, we will follow BAU processes – no device returns. However, all postpaid 2G iPhone customers in good standing are upgrade eligible, so these customers will qualify to upgrade to a 3G iPhone when it is available.
If a customer purchased on or after 5/27 (within the 14-day BRE period before the product announcement on 6/9), we will let them exchange their 2G iPhone for an iPhone 3G before August 1. This means that after we launch the 3G model they can return their 2G iPhone, pay the 10% restocking fee, and purchase a new iPhone 3G before August 1.
Note: This modified return policy applies only to customers who purchase from AT&T stores.

3G Devices
The return policy for 3G is changing from 14 days to 30 days for both Apple and AT&T stores.

To cancel service within the first 30 days, the customer must return their equipment to the place of purchase (no exceptions).
If the customer cancels service after 30 days, they will be charged the ETF. The customer is not required to return the device to cancel after 30 days.
Special Notes Regarding 2G Devices

After the iPhone 3G launches, activations of 2G iPhones for new AT&T customers can be performed in COR stores or in the existing iTunes tether process. COR reps will receive compensation for activations of new AT&T customers done in store.
2G upgrades will continue to be activated via the existing iTunes tether process.
Existing 2G data plans will remain available for 2G devices until further notice.
Note: 2G iPhones are out of stock in the DCs, and the Direct Fulfillment tool for 2G is turned off. 2G iPhones have been removed from the “myRewards” incentive catalog.

Merchandising/Marketing

Current 2G iPhones should remain on device fixtures in store. Do not remove 2G demo devices until further notice.
3G demos will be pulled from stock when they arrive following BAU process for display devices.
Video loop content will be pushed to stores when it is available.
New docks and retrofit kits will be provided for existing iPhone fixtures.
The following merchandising elements will be in stores for launch:

Rate brochure and display rate card
22 x 28 poster
Window banner
Duratrans - will be available for markets to order
Coming Soon: Posters and banners are TBD
Training

Device training, including features and functionality, will be available via My CSP by 6/13.
OPUS training will begin no later than 6/20 and will be delivered via the Learning Edge.
Launch preparedness training, including last minute details, will be conducted the week of launch (if needed) via RSM or Centra sessions.
Communications/My CSP
All iPhone-related communications, inclusive of training announcements, will be posted to My CSP. Login and access are via the “Everything iPhone 3G” ad space. Or search on either keyword “iZone” or keyword “iPhone 3G” to locate.

Launch Plans
Support logistics for launch day will mirror last year’s iPhone launch:

Letters will be sent to all landlords under VP/GM signature for advance notice of store hours, crowds expected, possible parking issues, etc.
Security will be provided for locations requesting armed police or unarmed, uniformed guards.
Manager checklists will be provided to support RSMs to set expectations and help them be prepared to complete all required actions.
Documents will be posted on iZone to let RSMs know when to expect delivery of launch support materials.
Job descriptions for key launch day functions will be provided for: Back Office Manager/Inventory Runner, Crowd Manager, Greeter, Product Demonstrator, and Security Support.

***Confidential AT&T Information. For Internal Distribution Only.***

[MrBogey]

Well no tethering it as a modem to a laptop?

Looks like a Tilt may be in my future. Damn shame too.

[seeinred]

Well no tethering it as a modem to a laptop?

Looks like a Tilt may be in my future. Damn shame too.
We're switching to AT&T in July. I kind of want a Tilt, but I hear it's kind of cheaply made.

[oandapartycock]

I need to know two things:
1) I have an iPod Touch, am I going to get a firmware update that gives me access to all this goodness.

2) Can I finally view flash content on web pages?

These are my two big concerns with the upgrade hype.

1) Yes for $9.95

2) No flash support in 2.0

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:V6whHk45bWQJ:http://www.jlh-design.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

As computer literate as you must be, I would think you would not have drank the kool-aid so fast. Although I detest Windows (especially Vista), Windows Mobile 6.0 rocks. Plenty of third party free apps out there, including the SkyFire browser which plays YouTube content and TCPMP which plays stand alone or streaming .flv files.

fuck iphones

with my mogul.....


with no problem what so ever

have had it

i discovered EV-DO Rev A is alot faster

unlock and lock all i want, and use w/ any cdma carrier(tho theres soon to be only 2)

sucks to be an iphone

i can tether undected (thaks to 3rd party apps)

im even a wifi hotspot (undetected by carrier thanks to 3rd party apps)

i might toss the 10 bones to upgrade the itouch but as far as a phone goes ill stick with windows mobile 6.1

^^^^^^^
What he said. Love my Mogul, love the superfast new EVDO speeds (1.5mbs). Streaming Slingbox video never looked so good.

Also love the built-in GPS. Windows Live Search, which now has voice recognition, gives you a free GPS application.

And being able to use your phone to act as a Wi-Fi hotspot is awesome. No tethering necessary.

Well no tethering it as a modem to a laptop?

Looks like a Tilt may be in my future. Damn shame too.

The Tilt is made by the same people (HTC) as the Mogul. Excellent choice but crappy ATT network stifles its speed.

We're switching to AT&T in July. I kind of want a Tilt, but I hear it's kind of cheaply made.

Not true, see above.

And also, unless you live in or very near these cities, NO 3G FOR YOU!

Cities Supporting AT&T 3G/Mobile Broadband

The AT&T 3G / BroadbandConnect network is currently available in most major metropolitan areas and is expanding rapidly. Click on a major metropolitan area below to view coverage for that area.

Please Note: AT&T Video Share requires 3G coverage. Video Share is available in the 3G areas listed below.

EDGE is AT&T's national wireless high-speed data network available in over 13,000 cities and towns and along nearly 40,000 miles of highway. All 3G compatible devices are also EDGE compatible providing the best combination of speed and coverage. View coverage

AL, AZ, AR, CA, CO, CT, DE, DC, FL, GA, HI, ID, IL, IN, KS, KY, LA, MD, MA, MI, MN, MS, MO, NV, NJ, NY, NC, OH, OK, OR, PA, PR, RI, SC, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WI
Alabama
Birmingham, Huntsville, Montgomery
Arizona
Chandler, Gilbert, Glendale, Mesa, Peoria, Phoenix, Scottsdale, Tempe, Tucson
Arkansas
Fayetteville, Fort Smith, Little Rock
California
Anaheim, Arden-Arcade, Bakersfield, Berkeley, Burbank, Chula Vista, Concord, Daly City, East Los Angeles, Escondido, Fairfield, Fremont, Fresno, Glendale, Hayward, Irvine, Lake Tahoe, Long Beach, Los Angeles, Modesto, Monterey, Norwalk, Oakland, Oceanside, Ontario, Oxnard, Pasadena, Pomona, Richmond, Roseville, Sacramento, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, Santa Ana, Santa Clara, Santa Rosa, Stockton, Sunnyvale, Vallejo
Colorado
Colorado Springs, Denver
Connecticut
Bridgeport, Hartford, New Haven, New London
Delaware
Wilmington
District of Columbia
Washington, DC
Florida
Cape Canaveral, Clearwater, Coral Springs, Daytona Beach, Fort Lauderdale, Fort Pierce, Gainesville, Hialeah, Hollywood, Jacksonville, Lakeland, Miami, Miramar, Orlando, Pembroke Pines, St. Petersburg, Southwest Florida, Tallahassee, Tampa, The Keys, West Palm Beach
Georgia
Athens, Atlanta, Columbus
Hawaii
Hawaii, Honolulu, Kauai, Maui
Idaho
Boise, Coeur d'Alene
Illinois
Bloomington, Chicago, Elgin, Joliet, Springfield,
Indiana
Gary, Indianapolis
Kansas
Kansas City, Olathe, Overland Park, Topeka
Kentucky
Lexington, Louisville
Louisiana
Baton Rouge, Metairie, New Orleans, Shreveport
Maryland
Baltimore
Massachusetts
Boston, Cambridge, Hyannis, Lowell, Springfield, Worcester
Michigan
Clinton, Detroit, Flint, Grand Rapids, Livonia, Sterling Heights, Warren
Minnesota
Minneapolis, Rochester, St. Cloud
Mississippi
Jackson
Missouri
Columbia, Independence, Jefferson City, Kansas City, Springfield, St. Louis
Nevada
Carson City, Henderson, Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, Paradise, Reno, Spring Valley, Sunrise Manor
New Jersey
Atlantic City, Elizabeth, Jersey City, Long Branch, Newark, New Brunswick, Ocean County, Trenton
New Mexico
Albuquerque
New York
Albany, Buffalo, Ithaca, Hamptons, New York, Rochester, Syracuse, Watertown
North Carolina
Cary, Charlotte, Durham, Fayetteville, Greensboro, Jacksonville, Raleigh, Winston-Salem
Ohio
Akron, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, Toledo
Oklahoma
Oklahoma City, Tulsa
Oregon
Eugene, Medford, Portland, Salem
Pennsylvania
Allentown, Harrisburg, Northeast-Scranton, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Reading, State College
Puerto Rico
Bayamon, Carolina, San Juan
Rhode Island
Providence
South Carolina
Charleston, Columbia, Greenville
Tennessee
Knoxville, Memphis, Nashville
Texas
Arlington, Austin, Beaumont, Bryan, College Station, Carrollton, Corpus Christi, Dallas, Fort Worth, Garland, Grand Prairie, Houston, Irving, Longview, Marshall, McAllen, Mesquite, Pasadena, Plano, Richardson, San Antonio, Tyler, Victoria, Waco
Utah
Provo, Salt Lake City, West Valley
Virginia
Alexandria, Arlington, Newport News, Norfolk, Richmond
Washington
Bellevue, Bellingham, Mount Vernon, Olympia, Seattle, Spokane, Tacoma, Vancouver
Wisconsin
Madison, Milwaukee

[Jef Leppard]

just to much shit to do with a windows phone no apps pop up all the time

[Voss's Tumor]

Yeah, I think I'll let them do this dance 3 or 4 more times before I give in and get one. I'll be sticking to the Blackberry Curve or whatever cool new WM6+ phone catches my eye until Apple quits this brutal planned obsolescence bullshit with their marketing.

[notmikeh]

* Cow Music — a tool to turn your iPhone into a musical instrument, such as drums, a piano or a guitar.

cool but useless. and i would think it would be annoying (in someone eles's hand)

[BusyChild04]

iphone is the best wingman out there

I am perfectly happy with mine.

when you hand the phone to the girl to put the number in...

they always smile, or make a silly comment about it.... :D


QFT. Happens every time.

My only real grudge with the new iphone is the dumbed down camera. Isn't the original 4.0 mp? Why did they have to dumb it down. One of the biggest compliments I got about the iphone was the quality of photos it took. Another is no picture messaging. WTF. Seriously. And instant messaging (which could and probably will be covered with the apps, so I'm not worried about that.) But the other two I mentioned has really got me thinking into avoiding this phone for now and stick with my old one.

[notmikeh]

My only real grudge with the new iphone is the dumbed down camera. Isn't the original 4.0 mp? Why did they have to dumb it down. One of the biggest compliments I got about the iphone was the quality of photos it took. Another is no picture messaging. WTF.

I thought that for you to send pics the person you were sending the pic to would have to have a phone that could handel the pixels. perhaps why they left out that feature.

[Buds Spuckley]

QFT. Happens every time.

My only real grudge with the new iphone is the dumbed down camera. Isn't the original 4.0 mp? Why did they have to dumb it down. One of the biggest compliments I got about the iphone was the quality of photos it took. Another is no picture messaging. WTF. Seriously. And instant messaging (which could and probably will be covered with the apps, so I'm not worried about that.) But the other two I mentioned has really got me thinking into avoiding this phone for now and stick with my old one.

Its the same camera in both. There is an instant messaging program called fring. SwirlyMMS also handles the MMS picture messaging.

You need to jailbreak the iphone/ipod or wait until the appstore.

[Dre]

I have the first generation one, and have since December, and LOVE it, but I have all my info on it backed up on my computer, and definitely want the new one. $199 for all it does, is VERY reasonable.

[Chino Kapone]

.

[BusyChild04]

I just need to learn how to back up all of my contacts on my computer so I won't have to manually do them one by one when I get the new one.

If it's the same camera without dumbing down the pixels, and there is an app coming out that will allow picture messages, then I'm 100% on board.

[Southtown]

sorry if I am out of the loop here, but with a new iphone on the 3G network, does this eliminate the huge thousands of dollar phonebills people were getting when the iphone first came out? Or did they already take care of that problem?

[Jef Leppard]

does this thing give blowjobs also?

[DanaReevesLungs]

I need to know two things:

2) Can I finally view flash content on web pages?

These are my two big concerns with the upgrade hype.

2) No flash support in 2.0

Rumor has it Adobe is building a flash player for the iPhone. Don't know if it will cost anything, but it will be available through the Appstore, so it'll probably costs a few sheckles.

[DanaReevesLungs]

sorry if I am out of the loop here, but with a new iphone on the 3G network, does this eliminate the huge thousands of dollar phonebills people were getting when the iphone first came out? Or did they already take care of that problem?

3G and EDGE have nothing to do with the phone bill. They're the speeds at which the phone's internet accesses the web. 3G being the superior of the 2 speeds. The reason people were getting such astronomical bills via the iPhone was usually due to SMS messaging. The original "package" offered with the iPhone included only like 200 messages with it.

[Southtown]

3G and EDGE have nothing to do with the phone bill. They're the speeds at which the phone's internet accesses the web. 3G being the superior of the 2 speeds. The reason people were getting such astronomical bills via the iPhone was usually due to SMS messaging. The original "package" offered with the iPhone included only like 200 messages with it.


I thought it was because of roaming or something because the phone was always downloading to update that caused the huge bills

[Eagle.007]

I thought it was because of roaming or something because the phone was always downloading to update that caused the huge bills

My understanding is that some didn't have the unlimited data plan. I believe it would have cost $20 more. The data plan is now $30. Also many were having issues overseas with their phones checking for messages constantly.

[Steam]

As we get closer to the date I'm becoming more and more hesitant. The price plans are what have me scratching my head. Seems like AT&T is ****** the customer.

I'll probably still end up getting it but I hope I don't regret giving up Verizon.

[Jef Leppard]

you will

[hybriddriver]

i missed verizon for a couple weeks, then i got over it.

[Buds Spuckley]

The reason for the large bill is because people were traveling abroad and using other carriers network. There was no way to turn off the data with the original firmware. They addressed that with a newer firmware so if you dont travel overseas you have nothing to worry about, if you do turn off the data or leave your iphone home.

[weeniewawa]

you could always turn off the email account. people just didn't know they had to and that it would cost so much while roaming in foreign lands.

[hybriddriver]

bought one this morning.

[Steam]

Bought one too but am having problems activating it. I knew I should have stood firm in having the fucks at the store do it like they are supposed to.

[hybriddriver]

i was the last person at my store to get one, but i didn't want a 16 gb phone. i handed it off the guy behind me, and i should get mine sent to me on monday or tuesday. i was like 30th in line, and it took 3 hours to get to me. activation was ridiculous.

[Chino Kapone]

They couldnt activate my friends phone this morning. she got there at 315 in the am and was 8th in line. bought it at 8am and didnt get home till 930. there was a massive line when i drove by there this morning...


they told her she would have to go home and activate it through her own itunes.

[roche]

Bought one too but am having problems activating it. I knew I should have stood firm in having the fucks at the store do it like they are supposed to.

I am not sure how accurate this is but you might want to read it.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/iphone-3g-purchase-and-activation-will-be-in-store-only/

[Steam]

I am not sure how accurate this is but you might want to read it.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/iphone-3g-purchase-and-activation-will-be-in-store-only/

I know that is the way it was supposed to be but in their haste to get people in and out they made a quick attempt and then had me on my way. If I can't get it to go in an hour or so I'm going back and telling me to keep trying to get it done. Its horseshit.

[BusyChild04]

I just got mine. My first generation iphone is just sitting there...lonely. I can almost hear it cry...anyways. I click on the voice mail tab to set it up and it does nothing. it doesn't take me to the voice mail screen. I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. But this is how I always used to do it. :huh:

[Steam]

Finally got it activated and am syncing now. A little disappointed that I'm not in 3G service but I'm going to go and check some other places around here to see how it is.

[weeniewawa]

Finally got it activated and am syncing now. A little disappointed that I'm not in 3G service but I'm going to go and check some other places around here to see how it is.

that's the reason I will stick with my rev 1 iPhone. Att still has a long way to go to catch up with verizon in the data dept.

If you alredy have an iphone all your contact info is backed up on the comp you sync it with

[BusyChild04]

A Big fail for me.

I started to notice that the phone pad started freezing. It wouldn't let me hang up calls. And when you remove the phone from the ear to view the in call options, the screen turns off not letting me choose an option. I took it to ATT and they determined that it was defective. They might receive a shipment tomorrow and they'll reserve me one. I'm am really frustrated right now.

[Steam]

A Big fail for me.

I started to notice that the phone pad started freezing. It wouldn't let me hang up calls. And when you remove the phone from the ear to view the in call options, the screen turns off not letting me choose an option. I took it to ATT and they determined that it was defective. They might receive a shipment tomorrow and they'll reserve me one. I'm am really frustrated right now.

That sucks man. No real problems for me although it did freeze when I was looking at my friend's facebook page (facebook app FTW).

[Dre]

Was going to buy the 3G, but didn't yet, just updated the software on my First Generation iPhone, and love the new stuff that comes with 2.0

The App Store and apps are great, (Super Monkey Ball is amazing, and quite addicting).

Love the updates in e-mail, and Internet image saving.

I was pleased.

[DanaReevesLungs]

Keep drinking that kool-aid.

Functionality>Aesthetics

[sil3nt8o8]

until it has working REAL gps and picture messaging iphone can go screw.

[Steam]

until it has working REAL gps and picture messaging iphone can go screw.

Ok. Simple solution, don't buy one.

[weeniewawa]

I have a real GPS and didn't really use MMS too much. the 2.0 software on my1.0 phone is great. AOL radio can play O&A on the older EDGE system on either their Boston or Cleveland FM stations.