Looking for a new tv (still)

[WoodenPlank]

As I posted in the thread about Blu-Ray not coming for the 360, I need to buy an HDTV, as I sick of my crappy SDTV set. So, heres what Im looking for:
1080p resolution, 8ms or less response time, a good contrast ratio, and 40" or bigger size. So far, I have 3 TVs Im looking at, in order of preference. Theyre all Samsungs. Right now Im just not sure how finances are going to look over the coming weeks, so Im trying to get the best bang for my buck. Also, I have seen the 46" and 40" 550 series TVs for $1500 and $1300 respectively in a local store.


At the moment, its between these three, in order of preference:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16889102203
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16889102202
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16889102132

Thoughts, opinions, or alternatives?

[Sinn Fein]

Newegg tells me I am having a server issue if I try to bring up any of your links.

As a somewhat recent purchaser of an Aquos, I have to recommend one. When I was looking I really wasn't sold on the Aquos at first but it ended up winning me over. I have a 37" which currently goes for about $1099 from Newegg.

But, based on your requirements - here's what I'd look at.

SHARP AQUOS 42" 16:9 4ms 1080p LCD HDTV LC-42D64U

$1399 w/ free delivery from Newegg

SHARP AQUOS 46" 16:9 4ms 1080p LCD HDTV LC-46D64U

$1599 w/ free delivery from Newegg

Both have 3 HDMI inputs as well as all the others you'd need (including 15-pin D-sub VGA).

I'm not going to bother posting links since yours didn't work. Just do a search for the model numbers.

[DJ Evel Ed]

I have this set up for 100 inch high def. DLP technology...

About 1300.00

http://static.ubid.com/pimg/216112.jpg

http://i.pricerunner.com/prod/8_4_9_3_898402l/Sharp_XR-10X-L.jpeg

[blakesnake00]

Just bought a 52 in. Sony Bravia xbr series 4 ,the greatest fuckin TV Ive ever seen ever! 2899.00 on sale at Cir.City .Even my wife who hates anything I buy agreed that it was the best picture on a TV shes has ever seen also.Comsumer reports agreed also that it was one of the best .The biggest issue I know with all eletronics is that usually by the time you bring it home its out of date tech.Thats why I bucked up payed more than I wanted to ,but am VERY HAPPY with it.

[WoodenPlank]

Projectors are out as I live in an apartment. When I buy a house in a couple of years, its a different story.
Ive also looked at the Sharp Aquos TVs, and even reccomended one to my ex when she bought an HDTV. I didnt realize the sharp TVs had dropped some more in price.

[sil3nt8o8]

I decided on this Mitsubishi WD-73732 73" 1080p DLP HDTV, i wouldnt ever go back to standard def.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/2555/bigtvshowvo8.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bigtvshowvo8.jpg)

[Sinn Fein]

I also spent the $129 and got the 4-year warranty extension from Newegg. This tv gets a hell of alot of use. Besides doing duty as a television, it's also the monitor for my primary PC which happens to be a media center PC located in our master bedroom. So, it's basically on all the time whenever I am home.

[doktormoo]

Any reason you are not looking at a DLP? I have the 71" Samsung (1080p). It has been replaced in their line up by a larger 72", but is awesome. The new DLP units can handle 3D TV (coming soon) and at CES they showed some 240hz units.

[Bobobie]

Any reason you are not looking at a DLP? I have the 71" Samsung (1080p). It has been replaced in their line up by a larger 72", but is awesome. The new DLP units can handle 3D TV (coming soon) and at CES they showed some 240hz units.


You should check out the screen in person if you are considering a DLP TV. There is a rainbow effect that a small number of people can see. It has something to do with some part that spins. I don't know if its just something in the first generation that they have fixed now, but its something I've always heard about them. Other than that, DLP TV's are your biggest bang for the buck and you get a huge screen.

[WoodenPlank]

Im not considering a DLP projection TV due to bulk and the cost down the road of replacing the bulb. I also have 0 first hand experience with how well they handle action games at high resolution.

Due to my apartment layout, and size, Id much rather have a flat panel LCD than a projection system. Plus, the eventual plan is to wall mount this TV, and I definitely cant do that with a projection system.

[NotSoFast]

I have a 40" Toshiba LCD 1080p and I absolutley love it. Got it at Circuit City for only $1200 on sale. It was originally $1899.

My mom has a Samsung 46" and it looks equally as good. It was about $2200 about 6 months ago.

Go to a store that has a lot of different models on display. Look at them and see what you like. Then check and see where you can find the best deal. Remember to factor in tax and shipping.

Your best picture quality will be with a "quality" manufacturer like Toshiba, Samsung, and Sony, though Westinghouse and other "lesser" brands will have lower prices. Personally, I find Sony to be really overpriced when compared to equally good quality products.

[TreeFortRichard]

plank...I have the LNT-4665f samsung 46in LCD. It is 15,000:1. It has a high gloss screen, like the viao laptops. That screne is apparently too reflective for some, but it 2x the contrast ratio and looks like heaven to me. It has TRUE black. THere is no difference between the black bars on a widescreen show and the black in the program. It has no macroblocking/pixelating...THe main complaints are that the connector in the back for the hdmi's can break...but i am not plugging and unplugging hdmi's all day. It also rotates on the stand and has a 178degree viewing angle, for real..you can clearly see the tv at harsh angles, high and low. it has soooo many customizable setting for picture...you can even do a standard def PIP while watching hi def.

I love the fucker

It is now "last years model" but that doesn't matter to me....It retailed at big box stores for $3200, I bought it online for $2,200...tax free of course w. free delivery from http://powersellernyc.com/
the fucker is now $1649 and i am SOOO tempted to pick up a second for the bedroom
http://powersellernyc.com/product/view/Samsung-LNT4665F-LCD-TV-20143.html


btw the prob w/ your new egg links is you copy/pasted the shortened link that you 'see' so it has a bunch of ............ in it

[blazin]

I have the Samsung LN-T4061F 40" Got it for $1299 in January. No complaints whatsoever.

[WoodenPlank]

Thanks for the continued advice, and also for the link TFR. The website you posted actually id pretty damn good on pricing, and has the LN46A550 for $1500.

[TreeFortRichard]

Thanks for the continued advice, and also for the link TFR. The website you posted actually id pretty damn good on pricing, and has the LN46A550 for $1500.


there were a couple of people on the business review sites that had some complaints about delivery time, but they stated clearly to me that it may take 3 weeks to get there because of the 'fragile' shipping with fed ex ground. you could PAY for faster shipping...but the fed ex was FREE...FREE...not tax, no shipping and a super low price...so i was patient and I think it did take 3 weeks...and they were not very clear as to when it was sent...i was just sort of told via email about 8 days after i paid. I also got the obligatory call at home to confirm my purchase (an effort that was really meant to try and offload overpriced accesories on me...but i am no fool and i will accept that as part of the low price...again the $$$ is the bottom line for me. I would stand in front of them and let them call me an asshole for 10 min if it knocked $200 off the price)

[doktormoo]

Im not considering a DLP projection TV due to bulk and the cost down the road of replacing the bulb. I also have 0 first hand experience with how well they handle action games at high resolution.

Due to my apartment layout, and size, Id much rather have a flat panel LCD than a projection system. Plus, the eventual plan is to wall mount this TV, and I definitely cant do that with a projection system.

I can understand the depth if you are in an apartment, but the bulb cost is only like $150. MUCH less with multiple bulbs than an LCD. The NEW DLPS have an LED instead of a bulb, so they last even longer.

Funny thing, MOST folks I know that buy an LCD have not wall mounted it.

The new 240 hz DLP sets are amazing for speed. Mine is a 120hz, but I do not think one would notice the difference. The biggest effects will be noticed with 3D but that is a little ways off.

[weeniewawa]

Im not considering a DLP projection TV due to bulk and the cost down the road of replacing the bulb. I also have 0 first hand experience with how well they handle action games at high resolution.

Due to my apartment layout, and size, Id much rather have a flat panel LCD than a projection system. Plus, the eventual plan is to wall mount this TV, and I definitely cant do that with a projection system.
the bulb is a good thing. I have a Optoma DLP H78DC3 and bulbs run about 250. but at least I can change it as opposed to other types of TVs that will cost way more than that just for a tech to open it up and give you an estimate thats almost as much as the original cost so you can take it home and throw it in the trash. Also with a projector, you can use it now in your apartment on a table against a wall at say 60" and when you get a house it can be ceiling mounted to give you a 100" plus picture.

[BaLZaC~308]

Newegg tells me I am having a server issue if I try to bring up any of your links.

As a somewhat recent purchaser of an Aquos, I have to recommend one. When I was looking I really wasn't sold on the Aquos at first but it ended up winning me over. I have a 37" which currently goes for about $1099 from Newegg.

But, based on your requirements - here's what I'd look at.

SHARP AQUOS 42" 16:9 4ms 1080p LCD HDTV LC-42D64U

$1399 w/ free delivery from Newegg

SHARP AQUOS 46" 16:9 4ms 1080p LCD HDTV LC-46D64U

$1599 w/ free delivery from Newegg

Both have 3 HDMI inputs as well as all the others you'd need (including 15-pin D-sub VGA).

I'm not going to bother posting links since yours didn't work. Just do a search for the model numbers.

Just bought a 52 in. Sony Bravia xbr series 4 ,the greatest fuckin TV Ive ever seen ever! 2899.00 on sale at Cir.City .Even my wife who hates anything I buy agreed that it was the best picture on a TV shes has ever seen also.Comsumer reports agreed also that it was one of the best .The biggest issue I know with all eletronics is that usually by the time you bring it home its out of date tech.Thats why I bucked up payed more than I wanted to ,but am VERY HAPPY with it.

Thanks for the continued advice, and also for the link TFR. The website you posted actually id pretty damn good on pricing, and has the LN46A550 for $1500.

thats the tv i am looking at plank, except the 52". The A650 beats the xbr series in every category INCLUDING price. I was also looking at some aquos ones but after researching on AVS forum i didnt like what i was hearing about some of them.
My brother recently bought a samsung 40 inch A550 and it is beautiful, I checked out the A650 in person at sears and almost came.
The only problem is most places offer you the service plan direct from samsung and for the 52" the five year plan was like 700 bucks

[BaLZaC~308]

oh and plank Amazon has the A650 for less than that other site the TFR posted and obviously is more trusted

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN52A650-52-Inch-1080p-120Hz/dp/B001413DF8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1214153369&sr=1-1

[WoodenPlank]

Well, I did it. I had some help from my old boss, and I now have a Samsung LN46A550 sitting in my living room. After watching some HD videos from Xbox Live on it, I damn near came. The picture quality on this set is AMAZING. My 360 games look great (still not as good as my PC, though), Upscaled DVDs look good, and HD content from Live is amazing. Time Warner is coming tomorrow (Had no idea they did Sunday housecalls) to switch out my SD DVR for an HD box. Does anyone know what kind of cables TW usually provides with their HD DVR's for connection to your TV?

[JoeyDVDZ]

Well, I did it. I had some help from my old boss, and I now have a Samsung LN46A550 sitting in my living room. After watching some HD videos from Xbox Live on it, I damn near came. The picture quality on this set is AMAZING. My 360 games look great (still not as good as my PC, though), Upscaled DVDs look good, and HD content from Live is amazing. Time Warner is coming tomorrow (Had no idea they did Sunday housecalls) to switch out my SD DVR for an HD box. Does anyone know what kind of cables TW usually provides with their HD DVR's for connection to your TV?

I can't swear to it, as I don't have TW, but Comcast provided me with component HD cables. I was frankly surprised that they didn't give me a DVI cable.

[kane]

Well, I did it. I had some help from my old boss, and I now have a Samsung LN46A550 sitting in my living room. After watching some HD videos from Xbox Live on it, I damn near came. The picture quality on this set is AMAZING. My 360 games look great (still not as good as my PC, though), Upscaled DVDs look good, and HD content from Live is amazing. Time Warner is coming tomorrow (Had no idea they did Sunday housecalls) to switch out my SD DVR for an HD box. Does anyone know what kind of cables TW usually provides with their HD DVR's for connection to your TV?

If they don't give you HDMI tell them to go fuck themselves.......

[weeniewawa]

prolly give you component, which will work. I am not sure about 1080p but no one sends any data like that unless I am mistaken.
look here (http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp) or even on Ebay but don't go to the local big box place unless you are rich and famous, their prices are way too high. use the component ones now if they work, and get HDMI later. does your 360 have HDMI? oh well your TV has 3 HDMI inputs so go to town

[WoodenPlank]

Yeah, I have a 360 Elite, and it is connected through HDMI. As far as I know, even cable isnt supporting 1080p broadcasts, right? So would component vs HDMI even make a difference at 720p?

[weeniewawa]

Yeah, I have a 360 Elite, and it is connected through HDMI. As far as I know, even cable isnt supporting 1080p broadcasts, right? So would component vs HDMI even make a difference at 720p?

should make no difference

[JonBenetRamsey]

as far as the dlp bulb goes, it's a fuck ton cheaper to replace than most extended service shits are and retarded easy to replace. sometimes the place you order a new one from sends you 2 so it's free. muahahaha.

[blazin]

Comcast gave me a HDMI cable. 1 wire > 5 wires

[Sinn Fein]

When we had Comcast, they gave us a DVI cable. Verizon gave us HDMI to DVI for the one TV and HDMI for the other.

[BaLZaC~308]

Well, I did it. I had some help from my old boss, and I now have a Samsung LN46A550 sitting in my living room. After watching some HD videos from Xbox Live on it, I damn near came. The picture quality on this set is AMAZING. My 360 games look great (still not as good as my PC, though), Upscaled DVDs look good, and HD content from Live is amazing. Time Warner is coming tomorrow (Had no idea they did Sunday housecalls) to switch out my SD DVR for an HD box. Does anyone know what kind of cables TW usually provides with their HD DVR's for connection to your TV?

Time warner HD comes wth the gold plated AV cables, which should be fine since they def dont output n 1080p. leave the xbox and dvd (or go get a blue ray) on hdmi for now and think about switching over to verzon fios... am hearing there HD tv package s unreal.

Congrats on the tv!!! I will be in the A650 club soon enough

[WoodenPlank]

The cable guy is here setting it up right now, and theyre giving me component cables, not HDMI. he said they quit giving out HDMI cables years ago.

Unfortunately FioS isnt available here, and probably wont be for quite some time. So, Im stuck with Time Warner.

[MrBogey]

The cable guy is here setting it up right now, and theyre giving me component cables, not HDMI. he said they quit giving out HDMI cables years ago.

Unfortunately FioS isnt available here, and probably wont be for quite some time. So, Im stuck with Time Warner.

HDMI is a digital signal needed for 1080p viewing. Component is an analog medium. If you got a good set of cables you'll be okay. It'll only do up to 720p/1080i. Which is fine if all you have is Xbox marketplace and Comcast as neither does 1080p. Only Blu-ray and a few internet/satellite start-ups do 1080p. And if you were wowed by marketplace you should see true 1080p.

[weeniewawa]

The cable guy is here setting it up right now, and theyre giving me component cables, not HDMI. he said they quit giving out HDMI cables years ago.

Unfortunately FioS isnt available here, and probably wont be for quite some time. So, Im stuck with Time Warner.

well. you know the high cost of HDMI cables. what a joke, a cheap HDMI, which is every bit as good as the most expensive one, is far cheaper than a low end set of component cables. I bet they try to sell them to unsuspecting rubes

[WoodenPlank]

HDMI is a digital signal needed for 1080p viewing. Component is an analog medium. If you got a good set of cables you'll be okay. It'll only do up to 720p/1080i. Which is fine if all you have is Xbox marketplace and Comcast as neither does 1080p. Only Blu-ray and a few internet/satellite start-ups do 1080p. And if you were wowed by marketplace you should see true 1080p.

The cable box is connected with component, but as I said earlier in the thread the 360 is connected with HDMi, and I have at least 2 games with 1080p support. Im pretty sure the HD videos I got off XBL Marketplace were only 720p.

[BaLZaC~308]

my brother is that lazy guy who pays 80 bucks for hdmi cables at best buy! i almost kicked him in the nuts yesterday for that!!!! if you pay more than 12 bucks for them you are a sucker

[Sinn Fein]

Walmart had HDMI cables for $15 bucks last time I needed one, so you can get one locally and not get assfucked like at Best Buy.

[roche]

Walmart had HDMI cables for $15 bucks last time I needed one, so you can get one locally and not get assfucked like at Best Buy.

Sinn is right. Get a cheap one. they either work or they don't.

[BaLZaC~308]

Walmart had HDMI cables for $15 bucks last time I needed one, so you can get one locally and not get assfucked like at Best Buy.

I've seen them at costco and sams club for as low as 12 and I even found a mom pop electronics store that had them for 4.99.... not sure f i trust tose but the point EVERYTHING Monster brand s a huge ripoff

[SwimConnerSwim]

I've seen them at costco and sams club for as low as 12 and I even found a mom pop electronics store that had them for 4.99.... not sure f i trust tose but the point EVERYTHING Monster brand s a huge ripoff

QFT. When my parents got a HDTV, I told my father not to get monster when he went to buy the HDMI cables. When he went to Radio Shack to pick it up, the sales guy tried to stear him to a monster cable. He bought the 19.99 cable (monster was 59.99 I think) and it worked out just fine.

[WoodenPlank]

Yeah, with rare exception Monster brand stuff is a ripoff. I looked at HDMI cables at WalMart a little while ago, and the cheapest they had was $25. Not worth buying one right now (Im broke for the moment) when component will work just as well for HD cable service.

[weeniewawa]

for analog audio or component cables, go with good gold plated, shielded high end ones. anything digital like DVI, HDMI or optical just get the cheap ones

[BaLZaC~308]

maybe one of you genius' can tell me what the fuck s the point of this?!

When my bro went and got his 40" A550 from PC richards they recommended he buy this, of course he did

http://www.monstercable.com/gl_include/ASPjpeg/send_binary.asp?Path=D%3A%5Cdomains%5Cmonstercable %2Ecom%5Cwwwroot%5C%5Cimages%5Fdb%5Cpower%5CHTS360 0MKII%5Fglam%2Ejpg&Width=300&Height=193&pagename=Productdisplay

WTF is this for? And is it a ripoff?

I know about joule protection and all the "electronic interference" and that you should get gold plated coaxial cables that go from the wall into your cable box ....

personally i think its ALL bullshit propaganda to get you to buy shit you dont need..
Am I way off?

[roche]

maybe one of you genius' can tell me what the fuck s the point of this?!

When my bro went and got his 40" A550 from PC richards they recommended he buy this, of course he did

http://www.monstercable.com/gl_include/ASPjpeg/send_binary.asp?Path=D%3A%5Cdomains%5Cmonstercable %2Ecom%5Cwwwroot%5C%5Cimages%5Fdb%5Cpower%5CHTS360 0MKII%5Fglam%2Ejpg&Width=300&Height=193&pagename=Productdisplay

WTF is this for? And is it a ripoff?

I know about joule protection and all the "electronic interference" and that you should get gold plated coaxial cables that go from the wall into your cable box ....

personally i think its ALL bullshit propaganda to get you to buy shit you dont need..
Am I way off?

It looks like a really fancy and very overpriced UPS.

He could have picked up one from APC that would be a lot more effective for the type of money I bet he spent.

[Sinn Fein]

It appears to be this:

Home Theater Reference HTS 3600 MKII PowerCenter™ with Clean Power™ Stage 3 v.2.1 (http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=3259)

I don't even think it is a UPS, just a surge protector.

[roche]

It appears to be this:

Home Theater Reference HTS 3600 MKII PowerCenter™ with Clean Power™ Stage 3 v.2.1 (http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=3259)

I don't even think it is a UPS, just a surge protector.

I didn't look it it up, I just assumed. Wow, he did get a deep dicking. :haha7::haha7::haha7:

[WoodenPlank]

I didn't look it it up, I just assumed. Wow, he did get a deep dicking. :haha7::haha7::haha7:

More like gang-banging. Holy hell, $500 for a damn surge protector on a $1400 TV?! :haha7::haha7::haha7:

[BaLZaC~308]

im not sure he got that exact one but I know it was a monster brand and it looked lke that, I AM PRETTY SURE he didnt spend 500.

The monster surge protectors are crazy over priced too...

Have any of you heard that about the coaxial cables too? (that they should be gold plated to cut down electronic interference) Am I right that its total bullshit?

[weeniewawa]

it's not just for the TV, everything plugs in there. also there is a warranty that covers stuff incase it don't work even lightning.I had one, but not that high end model with the digital readout, I think mine was around $250. Cheap insurance to me. I used to live in the sticks and our power would go out about twice a month, I wouldn't think about plugging anything in without one. I have 4 APCs for my comp stuff and even one for my clock radio/mini system, nothing worse than after your power went out in the middle of the night waking up at 7am or so when you were supposed to get up a 4

[BaLZaC~308]

it's not just for the TV, everything plugs in there. also there is a warranty that covers stuff incase it don't work even lightning.I had one, but not that high end model with the digital readout, I think mine was around $250. Cheap insurance to me. I used to live in the sticks and our power would go out about twice a month, I wouldn't think about plugging anything in without one. I have 4 APCs for my comp stuff and even one for my clock radio/mini system, nothing worse than after your power went out in the middle of the night waking up at 7am or so when you were supposed to get up a 4

thats more to the point of what he spent.. and yes he has his whole entertainment system going through there.. tv, cable, blue ray, xbox...

[weeniewawa]

if you want to climb up on the pole and put gold plated ends on your cable at every connection, I guess. A little easier if you have a dish;)

[roche]

it's not just for the TV, everything plugs in there. also there is a warranty that covers stuff incase it don't work even lightning.I had one, but not that high end model with the digital readout, I think mine was around $250. Cheap insurance to me. I used to live in the sticks and our power would go out about twice a month, I wouldn't think about plugging anything in without one. I have 4 APCs for my comp stuff and even one for my clock radio/mini system, nothing worse than after your power went out in the middle of the night waking up at 7am or so when you were supposed to get up a 4

http://www.apcmedia.com/resource/images/500/Front_Left/D1E0BA06-5056-9170-D3B0CAF75E6C041A_pr.jpg

http://www.apcc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SC450RM1U

Not only is it a surge protector it is a UPS. It costs 179 and it has a $150,000 equipment protection guarantee.

There is a reason when you go to any server room you see APCs everywhere and not Monster equipment. They are the best and they wont give you a deep dicking on the price.

[Stalker2]

maybe one of you genius' can tell me what the fuck s the point of this?!

When my bro went and got his 40" A550 from PC richards they recommended he buy this, of course he did

http://www.monstercable.com/gl_include/ASPjpeg/send_binary.asp?Path=D%3A%5Cdomains%5Cmonstercable %2Ecom%5Cwwwroot%5C%5Cimages%5Fdb%5Cpower%5CHTS360 0MKII%5Fglam%2Ejpg&Width=300&Height=193&pagename=Productdisplay

WTF is this for? And is it a ripoff?

I know about joule protection and all the "electronic interference" and that you should get gold plated coaxial cables that go from the wall into your cable box ....

personally i think its ALL bullshit propaganda to get you to buy shit you dont need..
Am I way off?

That`s a line conditioner, keeps voltage from spiking or drops:

i.e: voltage will stay at a constant rate and won`t fluctuate.

I have one that I got from a comp show that accepts 2 plugs

cost:$20.

Is it worth it?

Yes, I`ve been using it for years now definitely see a difference.

[weeniewawa]

the APC battery back up types basically convert AC to DC through a battery and then back to AC out to the equipment, thus isolating any spikes or sags from your stuff. the best reason to get one is if it has an insurance policy to cover your stuff. I have heard of places getting zapped by lightning and wiping out every electrical device in the house, washer, dishwasher AC unit everything. I guess the next best thing to do is get a whole house surge protector, but that is crazy expensive but prolly worth it.

[Sinn Fein]

A whole-house surge protector isn't that expensive, but you really need it to be installed by an electrician.

As far as a UPS goes, APC stuff is excellent. So is Tripp-Lite. Those are the two I recommend without hesitation.

[Digital_Trauma]

I thought they was giving the man UPS. I thought the man was dead.

[WoodenPlank]

I thought they was giving the man UPS. I thought the man was dead.


:haha7::haha7: