AMC's Mad Men- Season 2

[LiddyRules]

AMC's Mad Men season 2 begins on July 27. I finished the first season in two days, it's a great show. It's about advertising agents in the early 1960s. Also features Christina Hendricks in that oddly sexy late 50s/early 60s clothing.

[moegolden]

still haven't seen it, but upon seeing this i got interested
http://i29.tinypic.com/33m8rwx.jpg

[jagsfans]

Season 1 releases July 1st. I didnt see it last summer so I'm looking forward to it.

[Mindslayer]

I liked the show last season but felt that the creators were too in love with the era, if you will, especially with the constant smoking and drinking. We get it, the men lived hard in those days and didnt know the consequences, etc. Don's whole Armin Tanzarian thing was kind of weird but at least makes him an interesting character.

Anyway, looking forward to the new season, especially since the show was really good the last four episodes or so. And Christina Hendricks is sexy as fuck, too.

[Sidekick Dave]

I liked the show last season but felt that the creators were too in love with the era, if you will, especially with the constant smoking and drinking. We get it, the men lived hard in those days and didnt know the consequences, etc. Don's whole Armin Tanzarian thing was kind of weird but at least makes him an interesting character.

Anyway, looking forward to the new season, especially since the show was really good the last four episodes or so. And Christina Hendricks is sexy as fuck, too.
There is no such thing as being "too in love with the era." Just ask Ant. Lingerolongero.

[LiddyRules]

I liked the show last season but felt that the creators were too in love with the era, if you will, especially with the constant smoking and drinking. We get it, the men lived hard in those days and didnt know the consequences, etc. I was feeling the same way in the early episodes. Where it was "ooo look how different it was back then!" But as the show sort of "grew up," I felt that that part of it fell more into the background and it became more about the characters and stories.

There is no such thing as being "too in love with the era." Just ask Ant. Lingerolongero. Ant loved the 40s, not the 60s.

[Sidekick Dave]

Ant loved the 40s, not the 60s.
I know. It was a joke.

[Mindslayer]

I was feeling the same way in the early episodes. Where it was "ooo look how different it was back then!" But as the show sort of "grew up," I felt that that part of it fell more into the background and it became more about the characters and stories.

Ant loved the 40s, not the 60s.



Yea, I agree. I think the show really turned the corner when the staff pulled the all nighter during the election. Great episode.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

I watched the first few episodes and while the acting was good, I felt it was too over the top. We get it, they smoke a lot and the girls have no rights and have to be whores. But then it went and won all these awards so I feel I should watch the entire season.

[Mindslayer]

Thats how I felt at first, too, but it did get significantly better the second half of the season. Give it another shot if you have the time.

[jagsfans]

Im through the first half of the season and am loving this show. The line from episode 6 when Draper's secretary came up with the basket of kisses line and the other guy said "It's like watching a dog play the piano" made me LOLLOL

[Mindslayer]

Yea there's another great line a few eps. down the line where they reference a lobster when making fun of her. I dont remember it exactly but you'll loff when you hear it.

[Mindslayer]

Found some interesting stuff here about the producers long term plan for Mad Men (slightly spoilery):

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37398

[jagsfans]

I love when a creator is brave enough to define the end while a series is at it's peak. I can;t wait for season 2 and I still have the last 3 eps of season 1 to watch. Its my favorite new show since "Dexter"

[Mindslayer]

Speaking of Dexter, I received the 1st season DVD set as a BDay gift a while back but wasnt able to get to it, but Im finally going to check it out sometime next week. Im going into it completely blind, but Ive heard great things and am really looking forward to it.

[jagsfans]

Speaking of Dexter, I received the 1st season DVD set as a BDay gift a while back but wasnt able to get to it, but Im finally going to check it out sometime next week. Im going into it completely blind, but Ive heard great things and am really looking forward to it.

I don't know anyone who has been disappointed by it. I love that show.

[Mindslayer]

Yea Ive heard nothing but great things.

[BIV]

This is a great show. It should be getting more buzz.

[Mindslayer]

Its been getting pretty good buzz in the media, at least, and assuming that this season is as good if not better than the first then I really think that it has a very good chance of becoming a breakout hit, I really do.

[jagsfans]

It's on AMC which most people don't even know is on their channel lineup.

[LiddyRules]

bump for tomorrow

[Mindslayer]

Yea, definitely looking forward to it.

[abudabit]

Did they mention Peggy's kid? She should drop it on Pete's doorstep anonymously.

[Mindslayer]

Nope, the kid wasnt mentioned, although there was a brief moment with her and Pete where he asked her if she ever wanted kids, and Peggy didnt respond, and he said something like , 'See, thought so'. Completely oblivious, and as far as her weight loss goes, there are rumors around the office, with Pete joking that she went to a fat farm. Other than that nothing else was mentioned.

[abudabit]

Did he grab that chick's pussy lips?

[ginaf20697]

He grabbed or poked something. That was awesome :icon_lol:

[Mindslayer]

Finally caught up on the last two episodes. Very good season so far, and Im liking how the junior ad men are getting more screen time this year.

[Mindslayer]

Hmm, surprised that this thread is so dead. Guess people here arent really feeling the season that much so far. Personally I think that its been pretty good but its missing something, but I just dont know what. Last night's reveal with Don and Peggy in the nuthouse was interesting, though.

[LiddyRules]

Oh I'm loving the season, I just don't like to come to a thread just to say "Wasn't that awesome?!" It works for 24, not for Mad Men. Another thing about MM is that I am always so engrossed in the universe that I don't really know what to say. The tone, the characters, it really feels like I'm watching these people and not watching a show about these people.

[Ovaherenow]

Hmm, surprised that this thread is so dead. Guess people here arent really feeling the season that much so far. Personally I think that its been pretty good but its missing something, but I just dont know what. Last night's reveal with Don and Peggy in the nuthouse was interesting, though.

The first season seemed to have the undercurrent of what Don's secret past was, and once it was revealed the show has taken a step back for me. I agree that the reveal between Don and Peggy was cool, because it shows something that occured that we weren't aware of, but outside of that this season seems to be flat.

Question I have is why did Don care about that girl so much to help cover up her past? Because he knew she was devoted to her work and could help him or because he really cares? He makes an effort not to show he cares in front of the other guys....but does trust her to keep a secret...and now we know why.

All in all I think the show is well produced and well written (outside of a handful of episodes that seemed to be completely from left field) but I'll keep watching.

[Mindslayer]

Yea, I was wondering about Don's apparent connection with Peggy. Maybe he sensed a kindred spirit in her, especially once he seemingly learned of what happened with the baby. He probably sensed her need to forget it and move on, much like he tried to do after the Armin Tanzarian incident in Korea.

Last night's episode got me thinking how much the two of them have in common, too. Both Don and Peggy seem to be very sad people, depressed and emotionally withdrawn to the point of indifference. Also, maybe Im reaching a bit here, but personally I see alot of similarities between Don and Tony Soprano, for many of the reasons I just stated. Also, throw in the fact that both are serial cheaters, essentially living two lives, and youve got what look like mirror images of each other. I wonder if Weiner was purposely going for that, him being a writer on The Sopranos for so long.

[LiddyRules]

Yea, I was wondering about Don's apparent connection with Peggy. Maybe he sensed a kindred spirit in her, especially once he seemingly learned of what happened with the baby. He probably sensed her need to forget it and move on, much like he tried to do after the Armin Tanzarian incident in Korea. And they both seemingly hate their family.

[Mindslayer]

Ah, yes, Id forgotten about that, Liddy.

[LiddyRules]

And overcoming their poor social standing. (Poor farmer's son in Midwest + Woman). They also turned their backs on their family (Don's brother + Peggy's son.)

[Mindslayer]

And although he's obviously very young, Don's son seems on the road to being a fuck up just like A.J.

[ginaf20697]

Yeah, that little liar.

[Mindslayer]

While we're on this subject, Betty is also very much like Carmela. Both are social climbers in their own ways, both are catty and petty, as well as depressed, mainly due to their men and the state of their lives in general.

[LiddyRules]

While we're on this subject, Betty is also very much like Carmela. Both are social climbers in their own ways, both are catty and petty, as well as depressed, mainly due to their men and the state of their lives in general. Except much, much hotter.

[LiddyRules]

I don't know why but that University of Dour line really made me laugh. I like Pete. For some reason I always like the smarmy, weasely asshole type.

[LiddyRules]

Shit my cable had a glitch and I missed why Don freaked out in the bathroom.

[Mindslayer]

It wasnt clearly explained, of course, but I think Don freaked out because his daughter said 'Dont worry, Daddy, I wont talk. I dont want you to cut yourself'. I think that line reminded him too much of the woman he's fucking, and I think the adoration in his daughter's eyes got to him, too. He knows he's a piece of shit and a liar and not worthy of his daughter's love.

[domelogic]

It wasnt clearly explained, of course, but I think Don freaked out because his daughter said 'Dont worry, Daddy, I wont talk. I dont want you to cut yourself'. I think that line reminded him too much of the woman he's fucking, and I think the adoration in his daughter's eyes got to him, too. He knows he's a piece of shit and a liar and not worthy of his daughter's love.

you always get the feeling when he is around his children and sometimes his wife that the overwhelming guilt he shows will make him stop but alas it doesnt. his children really bring it on for him and i think the wife knows it.

[Mindslayer]

Yea, Betty at least suspects but will never actually confront him about it. Its also obvious that she knows nothing about Don's past, as evidenced a few weeks ago after he told her why he wouldnt give his son a spanking.

[domelogic]

i dont understand why don is so hot for jimmy's wife when he has that hot piece of ass as his secretary. jimmy's character has been toned down considerably since his debut but served up a nice tongue lashing to don. this last episode i thought was a good one that ended with me laughing at the irony of bets puking

[Mindslayer]

Yea, I love seeing Don getting taken down a few pegs. Maybe its me, but I find him to be so unlikeable that I find myself often rooting against him.

[LiddyRules]

I don't know why but I loved when Harry went to see Sterling and Sterling just stood their waiting for Harry to open the door.

[Wilmington WOW]

i knew that the red head was "hippy" with bid tits, which was popular back then,
but holy shit last night in her stretch pants we really saw how wide her ass is.
yikes


and peggy is ugly

[Mindslayer]

Yea, Peggy is fuckin hideous, and yes, its amazing how big Joan's ass is.

[jagsfans]

Yea, Peggy is fuckin hideous, and yes, its amazing how big Joan's ass is.

My wife thought she was wearing a fake ass. She's got a small part in "Life" as the lady marrying Det. Crews's father who was flirting with his financial advisor.

I thought the actress playing Peggy was really cute as Zoey Bartlett on "The West Wing"

[Mindslayer]

There was an article in the new EW talking about the stick figures on the new 90210, and in the article they briefly mention how curvy Joan's charatcer is, but they also eluded that alot of it was artificial. Anyone know what's what ?

[ginaf20697]

I don't know if it's artificial but I think they alluded to the fact that girdles will help get those curves working like that. If you saw her at the Emmy's this week it was obvious that boob job or not that's definitely all her.

[jpc165]

Love this show. His wife is so fucking hot. I wonder if she has anal leakage..

[Mindslayer]

Nice twist with Roger leaving his wife for Don's hot secretary. That was surprising, even though they teased a little something a few weeks back.

[LiddyRules]

I cracked up when Peggy yelled at Pete about getting Freddy fired and Pete's response was "We're going to get raises!"

Last week I realized just how many moments of pure silence there are on this show yet it works so well.

[Mindslayer]

I was fucking dying when Freddy pissed his pants.

[Wilmington WOW]

ok I need help
is freddy coming back in 6 months - or is that a line they gave him and he is FIRRRREEED?

also, did Don's boss leave his wife for Don's secretary
we have not seen them together

[LiddyRules]

ok I need help
is freddy coming back in 6 months - or is that a line they gave him and he is FIRRRREEED? FIREEEEEEEEEED

also, did Don's boss leave his wife for Don's secretary
we have not seen them together Don't you remember when Joan fired her and she sweet-talked Roger into getting her job back?

[Mindslayer]

Something tells me she did more than sweet talk hrmph hrpmh.

[Wilmington WOW]

FIREEEEEEEEEED

Don't you remember when Joan fired her and she sweet-talked Roger into getting her job back?

ah yes, well riddle me this batman
why did betsy set up her friend to have lunch with the horse guy, without either of them knowing?

[Mindslayer]

I was wondering about that myself. I think that she's hoping that they'll hook up and fuck so she can then live vicariously thru the friend, since she obviously doesnt have the guts to actually cheat on Don.

[LiddyRules]

After watching an episode, does anyone else end up feeling and behaving a bit more cold to everything?

[Mindslayer]

I definitely feel slightly depressed, thats for sure.

[moegolden]

a nitpicky font design douche finds a few anachronisms from Mad Men. i do find this interesting, so maybe he's not a total douche.

http://www.marksimonson.com/article/236/mad-men-mad-props

http://gawker.com/5060712/mad-mens-tiny-anachronisms

[Wilmington WOW]

a rehoboth mention last week - nice

and Betty's family is from the Philly suburbs, they have a cape may house
there was a elkins park reference
ha ha - when betty's brother said "yeah because every thing is better in NY right"

[Wilmington WOW]

a nitpicky font design douche finds a few anachronisms from Mad Men. i do find this interesting, so maybe he's not a total douche.

http://www.marksimonson.com/article/236/mad-men-mad-props

http://gawker.com/5060712/mad-mens-tiny-anachronisms

yeah a little nit picky, but i found it interesting
I love the attention to detail in this show

the type set talk reminded me of the documentary I saw on Helvetica
I had no idea how much thought goes into type set. They even link type set to politics. interesting documentary

[Mindslayer]

Damn that chick Joy was fuckin sexy.

[jpc165]

joy looked a little younger than 21

[Mindslayer]

Just read in the new EW that the woman who plays Roger's wife on the show is also his wife in real life. No big deal but I thought that it was interesting.

[Mindslayer]

Not that its a surprise or anything but I just read over at tvguide.com that Mad Men has been renewed for a third season, and the creator is also in negotiations to try and get a fourth out of Lions Gate, too.

[LiddyRules]

I thought I read that Weiner hasn't been signed for Season 3. I hope he is, the show is brilliant. I'm kind of disappointed that there's no sort of plot holding this season together like there was in S1 but like I said at the start of this season, I get so into these characters' lives that I just enjoy spending an hour with them each week.

[Mindslayer]

Youre right, Weiner is still in negotiations but no matter what happens with him the show will be back next season.
Here's a bit more :

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117994192.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

[ginaf20697]

Maybe not. Oh good lord... :icon_roll

'Mad Men' Stars Have No Contracts

There may not be any more "Mad Men" if deals aren't cut soon.

The popular cult series on AMC about the world of advertising in the early 60s is at a crossroads. Producer Lionsgate and network AMC not only have no contract with series creator Matthew Weiner, they don't have deals with the cast as well.

Whoops! There was a flurry of activity this morning as Lionsgate and AMC announced to the wire services that they wanted Weiner and the show back and were trying to make a deal.

But the reality is, the network has no agreements with stars Jon Hamm and John Slattery, or any of the other cast members. Hamm and Slattery were each nominated for Emmys this year, and Hamm won the Golden Globe last January (although that's not so hard to get if you're persistent and have a catering truck, but that's another story).

Hamm in particular poses a problem since he's turned into a huge break-out star. If "Mad Men" ended right now, the 36-year-old actor could go to movies and easily become the next George Clooney. This puts AMC and Lionsgate in a strange position to renegotiate Hamm's contract. It's going to cost them more than they've probably ever paid for anything.

As for Weiner and the show itself, if Lionsgate and AMC don't come up with the right deal, there's always the chance that "Mad Men" could wind up on another network. HBO would pay just about anything to take it given their disappointing schedule right now. It's unclear whether Weiner's original contract prohibited him from moving the show to his old stomping grounds-he wrote and produced on "The Sopranos"- but there are plenty of other options including F/X, Showtime and the major networks.

Meanwhile, fans of "Mad Men" are on tenterhooks to see what happens next to Hamm's character, Don Draper. In last week's episode, Draper went AWOL in Palm Springs, Calif. with a girl he just met. As viewers know, Draper is already living what seems to be a "double life" and that his real name is Dick Whitman. I'm told the next two episodes satisfying our curiosity, and that most of the show's loose ends will be tied up when the season ends - in case there aren't any more.

[Mindslayer]

No way they wont re-up, although Im honestly surprised that they didnt sign four or five year contracts when they signed on. Isnt that like industry standard or something ?

[domelogic]

ok so what was up with the last episode. i know i have been sleep deprived but what was going on with draper? in one scene he talks about meeting betty and in another about blowing off his brother. was there flashbacks and why is he staying in cali again, i mean the hot chick is one thing but what is this dick whitfield thing. if this ends up being from season one where i missed 4 episodes then i can understand.

nice to know 12% stake is worth 500k back in the sixties

[abudabit]

Some of it was in the past showing his first meeting the real Draper's wife, some of it was in the present (60's) when he was meeting her again after running away from New York.

[LiddyRules]

If they lose Mad Men, they deserve to lose their license. Or maybe they should just show Catwoman and Pearl Harbor again.

[DC Chick]

I think it was AMC's first original show, and the creators had previously worked with HBO. They may have different hiring rules for series than the broadcast networks.

The show just won the Emmy for Best Drama, so AMC won't let it go. The cast may not be signed for years, but the cast seems happy. Many articles I've read about Mad Men includes the actors talking what a great time they have, how unique the show and is and how happy they are to be a part of it. They won't want to walk away, and AMC really doesn't have any reason not to give them all raises if they ask for it. Bryan Craston won best actor for AMC's other original series, the network should be really happy right now. Money is the only reason I think the actors would leave.

[DC Chick]

Season 3 starts in July 2009.

[LiddyRules]

Can't wait. I'm going to miss the coldness.

[Mindslayer]

Here's a bit more on the negotiations with Weiner:

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mad-Men-Weiner-34993.aspx

[SOS]

It was nice that The Simpson's Tree House of Horrors this year had a nice spoof of the title sequence.

[LiddyRules]

Totally forgot to post about that. That animation was fantastic.

[Mindslayer]

Yea, I didnt see the actual episode but I happened to see that. Very cool.

[Wilmington WOW]

was that the last episode for the season?

the wife banging some dude in the coat room, nice

[abudabit]

was that the last episode for the season?

the wife banging some dude in the coat room, nice


Yep. They left some big things up in the air, although they kind of messed up and had Pete and Don resolve their differences instead of leaving that as a cliff hanger.

[Mindslayer]

There's still a pretty big cliffhanger with the merger and Don and Duck, though.