Fallout 3 Survival Edition

[Bobobie]

Amazon is takine pre-orders for a collectors edition of Fallout 3. I'm not sure what it all comes with, but one is an alarm clock that looks like a pip boy. The game isn't due to be released until September.

http://www.amazon.com/Fallout-3-Amazon-com-Exclusive-Survival/dp/B0017QFX30/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1214084110&sr=1-3

There is Xbox, PC, and PS3 versions.

As you can tell by my Avatar, I'm a huge fan of the series.

[MilkmanDan]

Amazon is takine pre-orders for a collectors edition of Fallout 3. I'm not sure what it all comes with, but one is an alarm clock that looks like a pip boy. The game isn't due to be released until September.

http://www.amazon.com/Fallout-3-Amazon-com-Exclusive-Survival/dp/B0017QFX30/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1214084110&sr=1-3

There is Xbox, PC, and PS3 versions.

As you can tell by my Avatar, I'm a huge fan of the series.

Definitely looking forward to it also, great universe. 120$ a bit steep though for me, I'll buy the standard edition ) Little worried about the engine they're using to run the game but they've taken so much time with it I have high expectations.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I cannot wait for this damned game

[blackout-]

Definitely looking forward to it also, great universe. 120$ a bit steep though for me, I'll buy the standard edition ) Little worried about the engine they're using to run the game but they've taken so much time with it I have high expectations.

isn't it the same engine as oblivion? think so... anyways this game looks to be awesome.

[cokelogic]

Amazon is takine pre-orders for a collectors edition of Fallout 3. I'm not sure what it all comes with, but one is an alarm clock that looks like a pip boy. The game isn't due to be released until September.

http://www.amazon.com/Fallout-3-Amazon-com-Exclusive-Survival/dp/B0017QFX30/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1214084110&sr=1-3

There is Xbox, PC, and PS3 versions.

As you can tell by my Avatar, I'm a huge fan of the series.The release is October 7th according to your link and reconfirmed by ebgames.com. Glad to see the game finally got a date. Although, I could easily see this get delayed until Spring '09 since they haven't even shown gameplay in motion yet.

[Bobobie]

I'm tempted. The last time if you special ordered thru interplay, you got a Fallout static Sticker. What blows about special orders is that you end up waiting longer than if you went down to your local best buy and bought it off the shelf. You end up on a message board reading posts from people who have to beat the game 5 hours.

[NotSoFast]

isn't it the same engine as oblivion? think so... anyways this game looks to be awesome.

last I heard it was using the Unreal 3 engine. Using more colors than most of the games using it, though. Fucking Gears of War and all the 1000 shades of brown and gray everywhere. Geesh!

Fallout 3 looks to be great.

[Edible Napalm]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wx7AkOGqYo8

[WoodenPlank]

Please dont let Bethesda fuck this up.....
The CE looks cool as hell, but they said that its an Amazon Exclusive. I doubt the CE is, but the alarm clock may well be. Damn.... Do want.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

that looks like it's going to be a lot of fun. I wonder how much of that preview was cut scene vs. gameplay

[WoodenPlank]

that looks like it's going to be a lot of fun. I wonder how much of that preview was cut scene vs. gameplay

Everything after you see the main character was gameplay, it was taken almost completely from the on-stage demo from yesterday.
So far, Im still not letting myself get too excited, but there might be hope for this to remain faithful to F1 and F2. Time will tell, I guess.

[Bobobie]

It seems too first person. I thought it would play more like KOTOR. unless they are cutting out most of the game play, menu selections for example, to just show the flashy action sequences.

[Snake2k9]

You can play first or third person. It's like Oblivion pretty much. I never played Oblivion.

[Blue Heeler]

You can play first or third person. It's like Oblivion pretty much. I never played Oblivion.

Don't forget about the RPG system that allows you to stop gameplay and target specific parts of enemies. VATS?

I watched the E3 gameplay trailer last night from PSN and it looks great.

[Grem]

there is a 20 min video of one of the developers playing the game on gamespot, I can't be bothered to look for it right now but it's out there. it looks really good.

[WoodenPlank]

there is a 20 min video of one of the developers playing the game on gamespot, I can't be bothered to look for it right now but it's out there. it looks really good.

If its the video I think it is, its basically another playthrough of the same live demo shown at the MS conference.

[Blue Heeler]

If its the video I think it is, its basically another playthrough of the same live demo shown at the MS conference.

The dev kills himself with a couple nuke grenades at the end. Dunno if it's the same run through, but this is more of a playthrough interview and a lot of the Pipboy and VATS is explained and shown.

[Bobobie]

I just saw the Xplay video Podcast, I subscribe to the RSS feed on Micro, and it looks pretty good. Xplay uploaded a bunch of podcasts last nite, all E3 related stuff. The only one I was interested in was Fallout 3. I only wish the video was better quality. Now if only there was a demo of the Alan Wake game play,

[WoodenPlank]

Theres light at the end of the tunnel, but Im not sure how happy this game will make me. Im a die-hard Fallout 1&2 fan, and I still cant feel assured that Bethesda is going to do this game justice. Time will tell, I guess.

[cokelogic]

Am I the only one who thinks this game, visually looks like ass? Seems to have low res blurly textures, the landscape (from what we've seen) look bland/flat/ and not very impressive. It all looks like a high end PS2 title.

Am I wrong? Just wondering.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I'm hoping it's just the compressed video that we're seeing that makes it look like dump

[Blue Heeler]

I noticed that as well cokelogic. Especially in piles of rubble, they look melted together instead of individual pieces of debris. Maybe all the nukes melted everything together...mmph hrmph mhph...

[WoodenPlank]

From the direct feeds I have seen online, the graphics look better than oblivion. Maybe itll be easier to be sure once we have more HD downloads of the demos available.

[Bobobie]

I hope we're not getting all those high-tech weapons early in the game. Then its just going to be another shooter. I remember in Fallout I you started out with a pistol and your skills were so low that it was easier to just kill a rat with your knife. Just getting a single shot hunting rifle was an achievement early in the game.

[Blue Heeler]

I hope we're not getting all those high-tech weapons early in the game. Then its just going to be another shooter. I remember in Fallout I you started out with a pistol and your skills were so low that it was easier to just kill a rat with your knife. Just getting a single shot hunting rifle was an achievement early in the game.

The Dev said he had a huge amount of health and all weapons just to show them off. I'm sure we'll have to scavenge and fight for anything above a knife or pistol to start.

[DR. Jimcy M.E.]

I hope they put some thought into the games story unlike Oblivion. Mods can always fix appearence issues but you can't fix a shitty story.

[WoodenPlank]

Ive seen some hands-on impressions over at NMA-Fallout that have said the graphics you have seen in videos are nothing compared to how it *REALLY* looks. Several have said it looks far better in person than Oblivion did.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Didn't pre-order? You fail (http://ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/fallout-3/909902p1.html)

Fallout 3 Survival Edition Sold Out (PS3): PlayStation 3 owners who haven't preordered through Amazon.com are out of luck.

IGN received a community update on its Fallout 3 blog today which is the bearer of bad tidings to PlayStation 3 owners. Bethesda's Matt Grandstaff notes that the exclusive-to-Amazon.com PS3 Survival Edition of the game is now completely sold out and has been removed from the popular digital store's retail pages. Here's the official word:

Just a head's up, we've received word from the folks at Amazon that the Fallout 3 Survival Edition for PlayStation 3 has sold out. So if you're looking for it on their site, now you know why it's not there. For those wanting to order the Survival Edition on Xbox 360 or Games for Windows, we're told these are expected to sell out soon as well.

If you missed it, the Survival Edition includes:

-Fallout 3 (yes, it has the game)
-A life-size replica of the Pip-Boy 3000, the wrist-mounted device worn by characters in the game.
-Vault Boy Bobblehead: Your very own Vault Boy collector's item is direct from Vault-Tec.
-The Art of Fallout 3: Features nearly 100 pages of never-before seen concept art and commentary from Bethesda Game Studios artists.
-The Making of Fallout 3 DVD: An exclusive, inside look at Bethesda Game Studios and the team behind the game.
-Vault-Tec Lunch Box: A fully customized metal lunch box.

So there you have it. Expect to see the PS3 Survival Edition appear on eBay closer to launch for outrageous sums of cash.

[WaddleDoodle]

I'm going to be getting the Collector's PC version. I don't need a new alarm clock unless it brings me hookers and beer.

[BIV]

I can't believe how little buzz there is for this game on the this board. This could be the best game of the year.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

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October 28th is going to rule


oh man...they had a Perk Contest (http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/vault/falloutcontest.html)? Huge fan of the one they picked...Grim Reaper's Sprint
Everytime you kill an opponent, all your action points are automatically restored.

[Vyce]

I can't believe how little buzz there is for this game on the this board. This could be the best game of the year.


I think it'll be good, but "Game of the Year" has got stiff competition this year, between GTA4, MGS4, and Little Big Planet.

[Chester'sLiver]

I think it'll be good, but "Game of the Year" has got stiff competition this year, between GTA4, MGS4, and Little Big Planet.

GTA4 - lost its appeal after a month

MGS$ - was a steaming pile of shit...Looked great but you hardly get to play..its all movies...


LBP - I don't get the appeal...

[BIV]

GTA4 - lost its appeal after a month

MGS$ - was a steaming pile of shit...Looked great but you hardly get to play..its all movies...


LBP - I don't get the appeal...
^This. Maybe GTA4, but the other two? C'mon........

[Bobobie]

Ten more days. I'm hoping that I don't find a new job too fast.

[cokelogic]

GTA4 - lost its appeal after a month

MGS$ - was a steaming pile of shit...Looked great but you hardly get to play..its all movies...


LBP - I don't get the appeal...You're not digging 3 triple A titles, perhaps video games are your thing. :action-sm

I still love GTA4. I'm still playing it, but I savor it like a fine wine. I should finish it before Episode 1 comes out. :icon_eek:

I would say I'm not hyped about Fallout 3 for a few reasons: I still can't get over how awful the game looks visually, but the worse is the combat: you can aim and shoot with skill of hitting the target or use the VATTS system that seems to let you deliver a head shot everytime. I want this to be an amazing game, but unless it's the best story ever told and you really feel like you're in this world of ruin, I think it's going to be a let down. IMO.

[cokelogic]

I think it'll be good, but "Game of the Year" has got stiff competition this year, between GTA4, MGS4, and Little Big Planet.Everyone knows GOTY goes to Army of TWO. :action-sm uck.

[WoodenPlank]

The devs have said they they cranked up the percentages in VATS for the demos to show off the effects. Same for the overboard gore when using VATS. I think in the final game a headshot just blows the head off, not limbs and everything else, too.

As for GOTY - dont forget Gears 2 and Fable 2.

[wes mantooth]

As for GOTY - dont forget Gears 2 and Fable 2.


Yep. I haven't touched my 360 in months but I'm pumped for these two and Fallout 3 as well. It's going to be a busy winter for me gaming wise.

[WoodenPlank]

Yep. I haven't touched my 360 in months but I'm pumped for these two and Fallout 3 as well. It's going to be a busy winter for me gaming wise.

Fable and Far Cry 2 are coming out while Im traveling, and F3 comes out the day before Im scheduled to get home. Fuck me.

[Bobobie]

I pre-ordered the collectors edition. I'll get the game 2-5 days after the 28th cuz got the free shipping. I always get screwed pre-ordering. I always end up seeing it on the store shelf days before it is delivered. I had some store credits so it's only costing $33.

Oh, yeah. Six more fucking days!!!

[Chester'sLiver]

^This. Maybe GTA4, but the other two? C'mon........
MGS4 was a masterpiece as far as graphics go but I actually like playing my video games. That was my only complaint with it.. I felt like I never go to play the thing and then the game was over.. and I love MGS 1 2 and 3 and I was so disappointed with MGS4.

and all I said about LBP is I don't get the hype.. i have never played it so I don't know I just don't get it.
You're not digging 3 triple A titles, perhaps video games are your thing. :action-sm

I still love GTA4. I'm still playing it, but I savor it like a fine wine. I should finish it before Episode 1 comes out. :icon_eek:


After I beat GTA4 and got nearly 100% (1 god damn pigeon) it got boring..I still have it but it got stale..

I am a huge gamer but you can see my above statement for me defending my views..

[MilkmanDan]

Games got so much to live up to. Its gonna be hard for we diehards. I honestly would've been fine with a Fallout3, same graphics/interface as 2, with a great story.

[Bobobie]

Games got so much to live up to. Its gonna be hard for we diehards. I honestly would've been fine with a Fallout3, same graphics/interface as 2, with a great story.


That is what sucks about the Van Beuren version being shelved back in '02. I think most fans would have been happy with the old game engine.

[EarthCrisis]

I have no idea what Fallout 1 and 2 were/are like but this game looks pretty fucking sweet. I liked Oblvion 4 a lot so hopefully this will be even better. Except for that one fucking gravely voiced woman they had do voice work. "Come take a look at my wares"

oh fuck I hate that cunt.

[BIV]

Anticipation for this game is making me fill up a little.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I have no idea what Fallout 1 and 2 were/are like but this game looks pretty fucking sweet. I liked Oblvion 4 a lot so hopefully this will be even better. Except for that one fucking gravely voiced woman they had do voice work. "Come take a look at my wares"

oh fuck I hate that cunt.

holy shit she's fucking annoying. They have to have better voice actors & much better rendering on shadows, that's one thing that pisses me off about Oblivion. It's on PS3 & the shadows from arrows & bowstrings look like bad Genesis graphics

[blackout-]

just about to preorder this on steam, 3 days 19hrs till it unlocks!

[Bobobie]

just about to preorder this on steam, 3 days 19hrs till it unlocks!

You gotta be fucking kidding me!!!

The only reason I ordered it on Amazon was because I thought they wouldn't have waited until this late to put it on Steam.

[Ego]

Little over 24 hours now. Flashy lunchbox thingie, here I come.

[Bobobie]

Steam says "This game will unlock in approximately 1 day and 4 hours".

[BIV]

Just a day away from putting a cap in some mutant bitches.

[blackout-]

unlocks at 1pm est on steam, hope it preloads but doubt it will, anyways can't wait for this one after watching some of the videos on steam heh, a quest where you (tiny) nuke a small town? cool.

[Bobobie]

They are stupid if they don't allow people download it in advance. This title is going to be huge. It's already the number two ordered game on steam just from Pre-orders.
I cancelled my Amazon order when I checked the invoice and saw the ship date was Feb 10-15. I bought it on Steam right after that. The good thing about being out of work is I'll be home at 12:59 PM tomorrow clicking "Install Game". I might have it all downloaded before all you animals get home.

[BIV]

They are stupid if they don't allow people download it in advance. This title is going to be huge. It's already the number two ordered game on steam just from Pre-orders.
I cancelled my Amazon order when I checked the invoice and saw the ship date was Feb 10-15. I bought it on Steam right after that. The good thing about being out of work is I'll be home at 12:59 PM tomorrow clicking "Install Game". I might have it all downloaded before all you animals get home.
I preordered it from the Blockbuster across the street from me. I get off work at 6:00 and I'll be home with the game by 7:00.

[chumpy]

If you havent already seen it here's some amazing shit

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/fallout3/video/6194162/fallout-3-e3-2008-stage-show-demo-2?tag=videos;title;15

[WaddleDoodle]

My Motherboard shit the bed yesterday. No Fallout for me until I get parts from Newegg :(

[transit grinder]

Gets a 9.6 from IGN

http://pc.ign.com/objects/568/568806.html


Looking forward to this game.

[Bobobie]

http://www.memeticians.com/2008/06/25/internet_addict.jpg

2 1/2 hours to go ... Ahhhh!!!!

[Bobobie]

Downloading now at full speed. See you in a few days.

[Shadow812]

I got this on the 360, and luckily enough was able to get it yesterday from my guy.

[Bobobie]

It downloaded and said 100 percent in 45 minutes. That seemed a bit fast when games come on 8 gig DVD's now. Now its downloading an update that says it will take 6 hours and 15 minutes because it is downloading at 128kB/s. Why do I get the feeling that the bulk of the actual game is in this supposed "update"?

[blackout-]

yea steam servers are getting ass *****, i've been downloading since 1:45est and only at 12% - started at 400k and now down to 26k/sec. ouch.

[Bobobie]

This is the PDF of the manual if you're bored. You can at least learn the controls and stuff.

http://cdn.steampowered.com/Manuals/22300/fallout3_us_pc_manual.pdf?t=1224882949

Also, try this trick mentioned in the Bethdesa Forums. I'm at full speed again. Be sure to run it as administrator. The problem seems to be that steam isn't spreading people out on the servers. Everyone is downloading from the Atlanta server. This program tricks steam into moving you to another server.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=740593

[abudabit]

Why not just turn the monitor off?

[BIV]

Got this on the 360 at 10:00 this morning. Fucking loving it so far. I'm in the second have of my work split shift and want nothing more than to get back home and play. I was skeptical about the "auto-targeting" system but it's turned out to not be overpowered and real fun. Gives a nice, cinematic feel to gun fights and you still have the option of manual aiming.

Bam, wild doggie headshot cinematic. :)

[TaboriHK]

Amazon delayed shipment. THANKS AMAZON. THANKS A LOT. I ordered this five months ago.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Picked up my copy at 1:30 PM at the GameShit, and was proofed for it..."whaa" I'm forty+ years old with a receding hairline, I don't look SEVENTEEN, you CUNT.

[Vyce]

I got carded when I went to buy Dead Space the other day.

Um, I'm 28. I know I can pass for a bit younger at times (cause I have), but c'mon. No one's going to confuse me with an 18 year old.

[BravoSierra]

This game is amazing!

[Bobobie]

Amazon delayed shipment. THANKS AMAZON. THANKS A LOT. I ordered this five months ago.

Thats why i cancelled and ordered it from Steam.

I've been up playing past midnight and I only planned to do a couple of hours. This plays a lot like the old Fallout. They did a great job keeping the same feel with the Vats and the pip boy.

[Atomic Fireball]

Amazon delayed shipment. THANKS AMAZON. THANKS A LOT. I ordered this five months ago.

Weird I got my copy from amazon this morning (basic PC version). I prolly ordered it 2 months ago

[TaboriHK]

I think I've about had it with preordering on Amazon for things I want on launch day. The world is not going to end if I Hate Your Guts comes in the next day, but for my gaming, I think I'm just going to have to try my luck with stores.

[patbattlefield]

has anyone blown up the town yet?...hahahahaha

btw my wal-mart had plenty of copies. that's the way to go.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I've been up playing past midnight and I only planned to do a couple of hours. This plays a lot like the old Fallout. They did a great job keeping the same feel with the Vats and the pip boy.

that's a damned good thing to hear...hopefully I get this SOB for Christmas

[TaboriHK]

has anyone blown up the town yet?...hahahahaha

btw my wal-mart had plenty of copies. that's the way to go.

I'm thinking I'll get the WoW x-pac there.

[25133WhooOoAH]

Hows this game? Its a tie between this and fable 2 for rpgs..Which should I get

[Bobobie]

has anyone blown up the town yet?...hahahahaha

I'm going to do it the second time thru when I'll play as a rogue character. I did the reverse the first 10 minutes in town.

[BravoSierra]

Hows this game? Its a tie between this and fable 2 for rpgs..Which should I get

Here was my reasoning. I really liked Fable. Awesome fucking game. But I played it for 2 days and had it beat. Pissed? Yeah, when I saw the credits all I could think of was, "Are you fucking seious?" 17 hours of gameplay.

If you liked Oblivion, it's a lot like that. Only the interface is better and easier to understand. So far, Fallout 3 is nothing short of amazing.

Or get both.

[TaboriHK]

Rent Fable and buy it later if you want it. I guarantee you will finish it off in two or three days.

[krap]

just got this game. 20 minutes in and i have encountered 3 bugs. wow.

[blackout-]

i've got about 13hrs played, fuckin awesome game....

[Atomic Fireball]

just got this game. 20 minutes in and i have encountered 3 bugs. wow.

The giant cockroaches?

[TaboriHK]

Twenty minutes in and this is the 8th time I've run into a group of hostiles with either machine guns, flamethrowers, or machine guns and flamethrowers. What the fuck, I'm like a mile away from Megaton.

[Bobobie]

Twenty minutes in and this is the 8th time I've run into a group of hostiles with either machine guns, flamethrowers, or machine guns and flamethrowers. What the fuck, I'm like a mile away from Megaton.


You shouldn't be running into anything like that until you go south into DC. What difficulty setting do you have it on? I didn't see any automatic weapons until I did the supermarket mission. I didn't even want to go into DC until I get more XP points. I might have no choice because I now have bought everyones caps.

[BIV]

Twenty minutes in and this is the 8th time I've run into a group of hostiles with either machine guns, flamethrowers, or machine guns and flamethrowers. What the fuck, I'm like a mile away from Megaton.
Dude, di you crank the difficulty? I've been playing for days and still havn't seen a flame thrower.

[TaboriHK]

I'm on NORMAL! I decided to reload a couple hours later and I got attacked by three raiders with AKs and four attack dogs. I'm trying to deliver this message for the chick in the bar. Is this beyond my capability? I have 15 bullets for my AK, that's not enough to deal with what I keep running into. I can only think that this is something I'm doing wrong, but then I swear I went walking twenty seconds from Megaton and got my head shot off twice by a random sniper. This is just fucking leaving the place, I could still see the robot fucking sheriff.

[BIV]

I'm on NORMAL! I decided to reload a couple hours later and I got attacked by three raiders with AKs and four attack dogs. I'm trying to deliver this message for the chick in the bar. Is this beyond my capability? I have 15 bullets for my AK, that's not enough to deal with what I keep running into.
Dude, that's your problem. You are no where near ready for that. I'm at level five and those guys are killing my ass.

You are using the targeting system, right? (right bumper on the XBOX). It's essential for crowds and some enemies.

I don't know why you are seeing raiders near megaton, I never have.

And. BTW, tougher enemies come out at night...mostly.

[TaboriHK]

Yeah, I'm level 2 and I can kill 85% of whatever is thrown at me down there before being fucked up. Yes, I am using VATS but my skills with rifles is like 10 so I have to get right in their face and start pumping rounds in if I don't want to waste my bullets.

There should be a gif made of me playing with the caption, "You're doing it wrong"

[blackout-]

anyone else just being an evil ass? i've had 2 bounty hunter groups come after me now cause my karma is so low hehe. and 3dog was talking about how much of an evil bastard i am on the radio, then the next sentence he says is how the megaton sheriff commissioned me to disarm the bomb, lol.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

for some reason I never bothered to really go evil...I think I'll definitely wind up doing that one :D

[PunchYourself187]

This is only a spoiler if you know nothing about the game's general plot - you find it out within the first hour of play:
I haven't been to 3Dog's station concerning the search for Dad. I was out just exploring and I ended up finding him (Dad) in a certain spot. I have no idea how much of the story I basically cut out. Needless to say, I went back a few saves so I can do the entire story.

Also, I'm like a Level 5 or 6 and my guy still takes a bit to kill shit. Those fire ants were a bitch.

[BIV]

This is only a spoiler if you know nothing about the game's general plot - you find it out within the first hour of play:
I haven't been to 3Dog's station concerning the search for Dad. I was out just exploring and I ended up finding him (Dad) in a certain spot. I have no idea how much of the story I basically cut out. Needless to say, I went back a few saves so I can do the entire story.

Also, I'm like a Level 5 or 6 and my guy still takes a bit to kill shit. Those fire ants were a bitch.
Yeah, I backed off the fire ants. Shoot the antennai and they attack eachother, BTW. Also, legs on ants only take half damage, so aim for the head.

I'm doing the side mission for sales chick in megaton. Done the first two parts but keep getting sidetracked or my ass handed to me on the third.

Yeah, I'm level 2 and I can kill 85% of whatever is thrown at me down there before being fucked up. Yes, I am using VATS but my skills with rifles is like 10 so I have to get right in their face and start pumping rounds in if I don't want to waste my bullets.



There should be a gif made of me playing with the caption, "You're doing it wrong"


A ten???!!! Jesus due, get your small arms stat up fast or you are going to get pwned.

[TaboriHK]

My skills in pistols or whatever is 35.

Also I should mention that for some reason my pistol is taking 7+ shots to the FACE to kill humans. Uhhh....not sure that's how it works, Bethesda.

[Monstercloud]

My skills in pistols or whatever is 35.

Also I should mention that for some reason my pistol is taking 7+ shots to the FACE to kill humans. Uhhh....not sure that's how it works, Bethesda.

It's an RPG, move along.

[BIV]

My skills in pistols or whatever is 35.

Also I should mention that for some reason my pistol is taking 7+ shots to the FACE to kill humans. Uhhh....not sure that's how it works, Bethesda.
It makes a difference, anything with bullets is "small arms", including rifles.

[TaboriHK]

Well my accuracy with the AK is inexplicably bad then. My pistol rounds go more or less where I'm pointing.

It's an RPG, move along.
Any game that operates under the illusion of simulation should rightfully be slammed for not knowing bullet + head = corpse. It's not a complicated equation.

[Monstercloud]

Any game that operates under the illusion of simulation should rightfully be slammed for not knowing bullet + head = corpse. It's not a complicated equation.

How is Fallout 3 a simulation? Saying an alternative history of 1950's (2207 or whatever the year is in the game) of a post-apocalyptic America is a simulation is insane.

Were you bitching how the Conbine soldiers in HL2 took more than one shot too? IT'S A GAME, NOT A SIMULATION. Fuck the complacent, "This is what i expect" crap.

[TaboriHK]

If you are simulating EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD, from equipment wear, to how much knowledge you have in medicine and how that effects you, why in fuck would gun physics not also be bent towards realism? This isn't a top-view game where you get into 'random encounters' and take turns in combat. If it's trying to set itself apart as a hybrid game, which it is, is it so unfucking possible to make a rifle round to the eye fatal? I'm not sure why you think that is such a tall order.

[WoodenPlank]

If you are simulating EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD, from equipment wear, to how much knowledge you have in medicine and how that effects you, why in fuck would gun physics not also be bent towards realism? This isn't a top-view game where you get into 'random encounters' and take turns in combat. If it's trying to set itself apart as a hybrid game, which it is, is it so unfucking possible to make a rifle round to the eye fatal? I'm not sure why you think that is such a tall order.

because then it would be Counter-strike in the wasteland.
head shots should be bonus damage, but not insta kill.

[BIV]

Headshots with a full power shotgun up close is instakill.

BTW, the chinese auto rifle is far superior to the other.

[Monstercloud]

If you are simulating EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD, from equipment wear, to how much knowledge you have in medicine and how that effects you, why in fuck would gun physics not also be bent towards realism?

Where are these drugs called "Jet" or "Mentats"? And when did Stimpacks HEAL? I PLAYED STARCRAFT, THEY HURT! IT'S NOT REALISTIC! Also, equipment wear ISN'T accurate. 75% of raider armor doesn't cover the entire body, yet you can easily get it to have more damage reduction than other armor. Durability is as "realistic' as it gets, which I'm sure people might not be happy about, but it's realistic to think that things that you scavenge for need constant repairing.

This isn't a top-view game where you get into 'random encounters' and take turns in combat. If it's trying to set itself apart as a hybrid game, which it is, is it so unfucking possible to make a rifle round to the eye fatal? I'm not sure why you think that is such a tall order.

Mass Effect is more of an example of a RPG/Shooter Hybrid than Fallout 3 is if you are going for the "It shouldn't take 5 shots to the head for a kill" aspect. Are your really that much of a baby that you demand every game that allows you to headshot something to be a 1-2 hit kill? Too bad that a pistol can't be your one and only weapon for easy headshots. Like the others have said, get a shotgun, or a better weapon.

[Snake2k9]

I liked the chain machine gun in fallout 2.

[TaboriHK]

So apparently I am nuts for wanting a bullet in the braincase to be fatal. And how does it become a fucking Counterstrike clone because headshots are fatal? That's retarded. Look, I don't expect super mutants to go down that easy. But a frail fucker with football padding and a knife should not be so resilient. It's nice that you have a lot of passion about it though, for me it's simply an irritation. It's nice to see that the prospect of realism in a game pushes you from zero to outrage in two posts. I have a rifle now that puts most people down in one shot to the head anyhow.

[Monstercloud]

It's nice to see that the prospect of realism in a game pushes you from zero to outrage in two posts.

Yes, because words on the internet carry inflection. Don't try to psychoanalyze me you dumb cunt.

The whole point was that your preconception of "If I can shoot it in the head, with ANY gun, it must die instantly" is stupid. If that was the case, then the challenge in the beginning would be nil, easier to level, and super mutants/mercenaries (pain in the ass) would either be too steep of a curve, or too easy because of the easy skill level of raiders.

And I have no idea where you got the idea where Bethesda said they were going for the most realistic simulation of a post-apocalyptic possible, but yes, you are nuts thinking this game has a high realisim %, and always had it going for it.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Some headshots are just glancing wounds, not the brain popping splatter we expect. Typical old school RPG combat/damage system.

At least you can go off on Super Mutants with a combat shotgun and live.

[blackout-]

minigun is my fav gun so far, followed by flamer, fatboy and misslelauncher are fun but take a long time to load and not alot of ammo and places to use 'em.


used missile launcher to kill the giant supermutant in the capitol building that was cool heh. does anyone know where to find the gatling laser?


also i only just took a break cause i set my dad on fire to see what would happen and it crashed fallout3 hehe

[Bobobie]

Anyone make the trek to Rivet city to find that brat a new home? It took me most of the day, but I picked up a lot of new weapons and doubled the locations on my map. I'm trying to get to that stupid mine field, but the area between it and Megaton seems to be full of Super Mutants with Mini-guns and rocket launchers. The thing is, I was all over this area towards the start of the game and none of these bastards were there then.

[TaboriHK]

The whole point was that your preconception of "If I can shoot it in the head, with ANY gun, it must die instantly" is stupid. If that was the case, then the challenge in the beginning would be nil, easier to level, and super mutants/mercenaries (pain in the ass) would either be too steep of a curve, or too easy because of the easy skill level of raiders.
No it wasn't. I wouldn't even mind if it was a couple shots.

Also I should mention that for some reason my pistol is taking 7+ shots to the FACE to kill humans. Uhhh....not sure that's how it works, Bethesda.

Is what I said. I'm not asking for hyper realistic. I'd just like to feel like I'm actually firing a weapon for a reason. I've played other games where one shot wasn't always a sure-fire kill. But there are some opponents who take almost no damage from three successive rounds right in the face. And they aren't giant or armored. Jesus, where else did I complain about how it isn't realistic enough? I am enjoying this game, that's just a peeve.

Yes, because words on the internet carry inflection. Don't try to psychoanalyze me you dumb cunt.
Dude fuck inflection, you've written like 8 paragraphs about how wrong I am.

[GrimSanity]

got to lvl 13. got very bored and uninstalled it. i liked fallout 2 but i just can't deal with running all over. i do like the freedom of movement in levels and the size of them. but just got bored.

[Monstercloud]

Jesus, where else did I complain about how it isn't realistic enough?

One of your initial points was you actually used the word "Simulation" and how you should be able to easily kill something human with a headshot with a dinky 10mm pistol, but fuck it. If the various "It's an RPG, not a shooter" points didn't make enough sense, then it's pointless to even acknowledge that you have an opinion of how games should work.

Dude fuck inflection, you've written like 8 paragraphs about how wrong I am.

Yes, that's called "Making a point" but in your world, I guess it's, "Nerd Rage"

got to lvl 13. got very bored and uninstalled it. i liked fallout 2 but i just can't deal with running all over. i do like the freedom of movement in levels and the size of them. but just got bored.

I'm currently lvl 15, and yes, travel does get a tad tedious. However, I do like it more than Oblivion, where if someone told you where it was, you couldn't just instantly fast travel and take the fun out of exploring on your way there out of the equation.

Headshots with a full power shotgun up close is instakill.

BTW, the chinese auto rifle is far superior to the other.

I regretted tagging energy weapons. Their far too few and hard to repair, and weak as well from result. I did however, a couple unique weapons. One is named "Fisto!" Which is pretty much a more powerful version of the power glove (21 dmg when repaired by vendors). The other is "Alien Blaster" which is an extremely powerful energy pistol (71 dmg) You can only use special alien ammo found near the gun, but it seems to crit often, I got 3 in a row on 2 super mutants and one brute.

[Beeman99]

just so you faggots know, this is just a game. Play it, enjoy it. if you don't like it, don't play it.

I plan on getting it, enjoying it, and that's it

[TaboriHK]

how you should be able to easily kill something human with a headshot with a dinky 10mm pistol
Like I said, seven bullets clinking around in someone's head should be more than sufficient.

[Ego]

I love this game. It's a nostalgia thing. Just reminds me of when I was 13-14 and playing the first two Fallout games.

It would have been great to see the V.A.T.S. system broken down further to include hands/feet/eyes, and the characters to really be physically affected by them (unable to run or shoot two-handed weapons when one foot or hand is crippled). Being able to use the braces and crutches you find would have been cool too.

Other than that, I'm very happy with it. The setup will really work out for expansion packs if Bethesda decides to release any. I bought Fable 2 when it came out last week, and it can go fuck itself in the shitter with a bat wrapped in razor wire until I'm done with Fallout 3.









*They should have a PIP boy themed version of one of the new phones coming out this holiday. I'd definitely buy.

[krap]

has anyone been able to convince the uppitys to let the ghouls stay in the tower?

[d0uche_n0zzle]

I keep one of them Robco suits (+5 Repairs) in my inventory and use it when repairing stuff out of my range of skill.

Those Talon fucks will pay dearly for putting a contract out on me.

[PunchYourself187]

Anyone else find The Fisto yet? Nothing funnier than punching a guy's head off his neck. Just like in "Jason Takes Manhattan"


Is there transport in this game? Didn't they have a car you could drive in Fallout 2?

[TaboriHK]

If you sneak into Jericho's house, you can find a chinese sword. I watched my friend sneak up a decapitate people with it for three hours last night. There's nothing quite like seeing the Church of Atom pastor go flying into the bomb with his head skyrocketing.

[Bobobie]

No it wasn't. I wouldn't even mind if it was a couple shots.



Is what I said. I'm not asking for hyper realistic. I'd just like to feel like I'm actually firing a weapon for a reason. I've played other games where one shot wasn't always a sure-fire kill. But there are some opponents who take almost no damage from three successive rounds right in the face. And they aren't giant or armored. Jesus, where else did I complain about how it isn't realistic enough? I am enjoying this game, that's just a peeve.


Dude fuck inflection, you've written like 8 paragraphs about how wrong I am.

It's a fucking RPG, go on Wikipedia and look it up. It's based on hit points and statistics of the old RPG board games. It has a first person perspective but it's still doing the dice rolls of the old RPG's. It was made that way by design. If there was a magic button, like a head shot, then everyone would be running around with sniper rifles. The game is behaving just like the original fallout games and I couldn't be happier.

[TaboriHK]

Oh my God get the fuck over it. It's my fucking irritation, MINE, and it only bugged me for the first five minutes of the game.

[blackout-]

finished main quest, you can't continue to play once you finish so be warned.... just started over and gonna make a better character now that i know generally how the game goes.... doing small guns, lockpick, repair to start with, 10str 10int 10per. at level 4 now and already got my small guns at 95, putting pts on intensive training perk to boost up other stuff i kept low (for inital 10s in int str per) and educated perk at 4 to get 23points/level to distribute now

gonna be a badass character :)

[TaboriHK]

Why do they end the game after the main story? That's lame.

[BIV]

One of your initial points was you actually used the word "Simulation" and how you should be able to easily kill something human with a headshot with a dinky 10mm pistol, but fuck it. If the various "It's an RPG, not a shooter" points didn't make enough sense, then it's pointless to even acknowledge that you have an opinion of how games should work.



Yes, that's called "Making a point" but in your world, I guess it's, "Nerd Rage"



I'm currently lvl 15, and yes, travel does get a tad tedious. However, I do like it more than Oblivion, where if someone told you where it was, you couldn't just instantly fast travel and take the fun out of exploring on your way there out of the equation.



I regretted tagging energy weapons. Their far too few and hard to repair, and weak as well from result. I did however, a couple unique weapons. One is named "Fisto!" Which is pretty much a more powerful version of the power glove (21 dmg when repaired by vendors). The other is "Alien Blaster" which is an extremely powerful energy pistol (71 dmg) You can only use special alien ammo found near the gun, but it seems to crit often, I got 3 in a row on 2 super mutants and one brute.

If you have all three schematics for the special weapon it comes out a better quality.
The more you know.....

finished main quest, you can't continue to play once you finish so be warned.... just started over and gonna make a better character now that i know generally how the game goes.... doing small guns, lockpick, repair to start with, 10str 10int 10per. at level 4 now and already got my small guns at 95, putting pts on intensive training perk to boost up other stuff i kept low (for inital 10s in int str per) and educated perk at 4 to get 23points/level to distribute now



gonna be a badass character
Jesus, dude. Did you completely ignore side quests, or what?

[TaboriHK]

I had to escort my darling father across what field like ten miles of Hell, from Vault 112 ALL the way to Rivet City. I'm not even positive this was 100% necessary but it took at least an hour with all the stops to kill people. I've never played a game that included such a Bataan Death March-esque mission.

[WoodenPlank]

Can people please remember to use the fucking spoiler tags?

[BIV]

I regretted tagging energy weapons. Their far too few and hard to repair, and weak as well from result. I did however, a couple unique weapons. One is named "Fisto!" Which is pretty much a more powerful version of the power glove (21 dmg when repaired by vendors). The other is "Alien Blaster" which is an extremely powerful energy pistol (71 dmg) You can only use special alien ammo found near the gun, but it seems to crit often, I got 3 in a row on 2 super mutants and one brute.
I always keep a laser pistol on me. They are essential for taking out robots.

Want locations of items and such?
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/file/939933/54617

[KneeKnee]

I'm glad i put off playing this game form the ps3.

Bethesda's Hines says Fallout 3 will have Trophies

"It's going to happen, just not sure when," said Bethesda Softworks' Pete Hines in a live interview with Eurogamer. Hines had no further details on the Trophy support to be found in Fallout 3. He ended his answer with: "
We'll let folks know when we have something more definitive."

Other than that statement, nothing else pertaining to the PS3 version was revealed in the interview. Hines did not mention a date for the Trophies, and -- more importantly -- he did not mention whether Trophies would be retroactive. We also wonder if they'll be somewhat identical to the 360's achievements. There are still so many questions, Pete. Hopefully you'll have all the right answers when you've got something "more definitive."



http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/11/04/bethesdas-hines-says-fallout-3-will-have-trophies/

I would hate to invest so much time then have to replay for the trophies..

[Ego]

One other small gripe I found. You can't go full-on retard baby like in the first two games. Nothing quite like the fate of humanity being handed to someone who has no communication skills whatsoever.

[Ego]

I had to escort my darling father across what field like ten miles of Hell, from Vault 112 ALL the way to Rivet City. I'm not even positive this was 100% necessary but it took at least an hour with all the stops to kill people. I've never played a game that included such a Bataan Death March-esque mission.

No, you didn't. You could have fast fraveled there, and slept a few hours until he arrived.

[TaboriHK]

No, you didn't. You could have fast fraveled there, and slept a few hours until he arrived.

I could have....but I wanted the challenge.

[blackout-]

anyone found a cool custom scoped .44? i heard that there was 1 available by some quest where you find some lady music sheets or something? but couldn't find her location. scoped .44 is my new fav gun with small arms so high right now.

[TaboriHK]

I got my scoped Magnum off one of the guys trying to kill Dogmeat in the scrapyard.

[Blue Heeler]

Not following this thread, but I read on a PS3 website that Trophies are coming for Fallout 3.

Whenever I do buy this game though, I'll probably get it on the PC.

[blackout-]

ah jeez i need 1 more quantam nuka cola for the 30 challenge, can't find anymore! been all over the place heh

[DoucheMeister]

Ok, my character is totally gimped. Any tips / strategies on where to put points, and what attributes to choose when first creating the character?

[Snake2k9]

http://nma-fallout.com/content.php?page=fo3-char

They have a good page about the stats and what they raise and such. They also have a page explaining the skills and perks.

[Ego]

Part of the fun of this game is the exploration. Don't cheat just yet. Stick with what you know you can do, and run from any fight you aren't prepared for yet.

[blackout-]

lvl 17 on my 2nd char. 10 str, 10int, 10pre. 9end, 9 agility, 4 luck, 2char - still need to find bobbleheads and will have 10 end and agility, 5luck 3char.

got almost all the small big and energy guns maxed out, got 100 lockpick and repair,

finally found the cool custom scoped magnum - blackhawk, need to do some quest to retrieve an old violin and music sheets for some old hag in a tiny shack somewhere.

[TaboriHK]

For lack of a better description, I was killed by a werewolf. These things take damage like a goddamn tank.

[blackout-]

For lack of a better description, I was killed by a werewolf. These things take damage like a goddamn tank.

yao goui or somehting right? they're supposed to be mutated black bears i think.

[TaboriHK]

No, it wasn't. I can't remember what it was called. But it was a werewolf. I was on the quest to get the Soil Stradivarius from Vault 92 and got ambushed by it not far from the entrance.

[Monstercloud]

No, it wasn't. I can't remember what it was called. But it was a werewolf. I was on the quest to get the Soil Stradivarius from Vault 92 and got ambushed by it not far from the entrance.

Yao Guai is the only thing close to a "Werewolf" Perhaps you are thinking of Deathclaws.

[TaboriHK]

Yeah that was it, Deathclaw. There's more than one of those things? Holy shit, it killed me in three hits with full health.

EDIT: It also took 3 .44 shots to the face and lost almost no health.

[blackout-]

deathclaws are a bitch, best best is to either put mines down then lure them in or use the dart gun to slow them down then pick them off from a distance

[Bobobie]

I found two. I found one in Paradise Falls, a Slaver compound, and the other at the German Town Police headquarters.

anyone found a cool custom scoped .44? i heard that there was 1 available by some quest where you find some lady music sheets or something? but couldn't find her location. scoped .44 is my new fav gun with small arms so high right now.

[Jables2002]

I wish there was a way to make money owning property like in Fable :)

[BIV]

Okay guys, found a money cheat at Paradise Falls.
When you enslave one of the four people the guard at the front wants, that person ends up in the building in the slave pen. Now you talk to the guard again and he gives you 250 bottlecaps.

Here is the cheat, if you go and talk to the prisoners you captured and then talk to the guard again, he gives you the 250 caps again. Rinse and repeat.

[Jables2002]

Okay guys, found a money cheat at Paradise Falls.
When you enslave one of the four people the guard at the front wants, that person ends up in the building in the slave pen. Now you talk to the guard again and he gives you 250 bottlecaps.

Here is the cheat, if you go and talk to the prisoners you captured and then talk to the guard again, he gives you the 250 caps again. Rinse and repeat.

Have to give that one a try.


On another note.... It finally happened. I was fucking up some radscorpions and a protectron started shooting me from out of nowhere. So I'm running backwards to try and get a better position, and it froze. Lame. At least it wasn't towards the end of a mission or anything, and I did just save right before, but still, that's scary.

So I gotta say, SAVE, SAVE, SAVE!

[TaboriHK]

I've had about four freezes so far.

[Bobobie]

I've ran into a bug where it feezes up while in VATS. I can move the mouse pointer around and click on stuff but it makes a loud buzzer noise. It eventually comes back, but if I alt-Tab to windows then FO3 crashes. I'm running the Steam version.

[Bobobie]

I have 3 sets of Power Armor, but can't wear it because I don't have Power Armor training.

[BlackNinja]

im still only level 4 but enjoying this so far, what times do those caravans infront of megaton come out, what hours? i need a regular place to buy ammo soon, and the few shops in the town i bought all their bullets

[Blue Heeler]

So what's considered the best version (going to add this game to my XMas list)...PC or PS3? Do you have to do any quick aiming or is every encounter paused for VATS?

[WoodenPlank]

So what's considered the best version (going to add this game to my XMas list)...PC or PS3? Do you have to do any quick aiming or is every encounter paused for VATS?

Id say PC, personally.

It plays like a FPS until you hit the VATS key - real-time targeting and shooting.

[Blue Heeler]

Id say PC, personally.

It plays like a FPS until you hit the VATS key - real-time targeting and shooting.

Thanks, that pretty much is the decider...if it plays like an FPS, I won't play it on a console.

[PunchYourself187]

Thanks, that pretty much is the decider...if it plays like an FPS, I won't play it on a console.Personally, I never use the manual FPS system unless I've run out of AP (which is what drives the VATS system). I always use the VATS system to take on guys. You're never really forced into playing it the same way as an FPS.

With all that being said, Oblivion had a nice PC mod community - guys that already have worked around some of Fallout 3's bugs. So if your computer can handle it, then I guess PC is the way to go.

[Blue Heeler]

Personally, I never use the manual FPS system unless I've run out of AP (which is what drives the VATS system). I always use the VATS system to take on guys. You're never really forced into playing it the same way as an FPS.

With all that being said, Oblivion had a nice PC mod community - guys that already have worked around some of Fallout 3's bugs. So if your computer can handle it, then I guess PC is the way to go.

Yep, my PC specs are:
E6600 Core 2 Duo (2x 2.4GHz)
512MB 8800GT OC
4GB Ram

[WoodenPlank]

Yep, my PC specs are:
E6600 Core 2 Duo (2x 2.4GHz)
512MB 8800GT OC
4GB Ram

Pretty close to what I have, and my system runs F3 just fine.

[Jables2002]

im still only level 4 but enjoying this so far, what times do those caravans infront of megaton come out, what hours? i need a regular place to buy ammo soon, and the few shops in the town i bought all their bullets

It seems like it varies a lot. The Doc is usually around in the morning, around 5am, cause that's usually when I leave megaton after a sleep. I think Crow sells ammo or apparel, but he usually doesn't have much. Your best bet is to conserve, never you a weapon to kill a radroach, and only on a dog when there are other enemies around (and dogmeat will usually take care of other dogs for you). Most of your ammo will come from exploration, and dead enemies.

Now I'm wondering how you guys take care of Deathclaws. I'm level 8, but I still seem to have problems with them if I don't get a lucky shot with a chinese assault rifle. Also, I have a problem with Mr. Gutsy's. I usually try to avoid them, but would like the xp.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Deathclaws are a huge problem at any level.

Use the suggested mine tactic, with a Flamer, or Missiles, and a Combat Shotgun for a finisher.

[Jables2002]

Deathclaws are a huge problem at any level.

Use the suggested mine tactic, with a Flamer, or Missiles, and a Combat Shotgun for a finisher.

I've only ever found 2 missiles, so flamer it is!

[Monstercloud]

I've only ever found 2 missiles, so flamer it is!

At any time, I had around 50-70 missles. Although, I'm not one for explosions.

As for Deathclaws... just make a Dart Gun, it instantly makes them just as harmless as any other melee based enemy (Excluding Behemoths, but that's just because they are fucking huge).

Robots are the only real consistent problem. As far as I know, besides Pulse Grenades/Mines, they don't have a weakness to any specific weapon. I ended up taking the robot killer perk just to give a little extra help, but it still was a complete pain in the ass to attack the Security Bots/Mr. Gutsyies. Luckily, those are the only two enemies you need to worry about. The other two are either too weak, or have easy to spot weaknesses

[TaboriHK]

Deathclaws are a huge problem at any level.

Use the suggested mine tactic, with a Flamer, or Missiles, and a Combat Shotgun for a finisher.

Now that I have Abraham Lincoln's rifle and a certain ally with a certain large weapon, Deathclaws are child's play. But when I first saw them, I had to make sure they didn't see me or I was fucked.

[Bobobie]

Personally, I never use the manual FPS system unless I've run out of AP (which is what drives the VATS system). I always use the VATS system to take on guys. You're never really forced into playing it the same way as an FPS.



I've noticed you end up using a lot more ammo if you don't use VATS.

[Bobobie]

Pretty close to what I have, and my system runs F3 just fine.


Mine too, I only have 2 gig of RAM tho.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Now that I have Abraham Lincoln's rifle and a certain ally with a certain large weapon, Deathclaws are child's play. But when I first saw them, I had to make sure they didn't see me or I was fucked.

All my sidekicks end up dead. :huh:

[Bobobie]

im still only level 4 but enjoying this so far, what times do those caravans infront of megaton come out, what hours? i need a regular place to buy ammo soon, and the few shops in the town i bought all their bullets

There is a different guy out there most every day. There is one trader that has nothing but guns and ammo. You could keep waiting and see if he shows up, but you should just get out there and try to find more towns with gun traders.

[BIV]

The merchants roam in a set pattern around the game world. You get a map in Cantabary Commons

[Jables2002]

Another fun thing to do:

1. Go into Moira's shop in Megaton.
2. Save.
3. Blast that Rachel Ray-talkin' bitch in the face.
4. Enjoy.
5. Load.

[Bobobie]

I have a question about the Oasis Quest.

Does killing Harold give you negative Karma? I don't need any other details.

[TaboriHK]

All my sidekicks end up dead. :huh:

You will get one that is....resilient.

[Jables2002]

I have a question about the Oasis Quest.

Does killing Harold give you negative Karma? I don't need any other details.

Yup.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Oasis_(quest)

[WOWmagnet]

You will get one that is....resilient.

I saw in the Bethesda forums, there is a way to select the character, bring up the consol, and change a few stats to make them more tough and better armed.



BTW I just got the PC version of this and am liking it so far.

[Bobobie]

Yup.



I experimented with all three choices and that was the wrong answer.

[BIV]

You know you can give your companions power armor? The armor wont be damaged while they wear it Either.

[Warfarer]

I just had my first run in with Enclave guys and here is a hint for you guys struggling with them. Plasma rifles own them. One headshot and done. Deathclaws and the giant radscorpions seem to be the only thing I have come across that I can't kill fast now.

[Monstercloud]

I experimented with all three choices and that was the wrong answer.

No, you do get bad karma if:

You burn the tree, not destroy the heart, which is still killing the tree.

[Bobobie]

No, you do get bad karma if:

You burn the tree, not destroy the heart, which is still killing the tree.



Yeah, but the only good Karma you can get is by killing the heart. I'm trying to do my first run with all the positive Karma I can get. I didn't know about the other three choices when I posted the message so it was a bit ambiguous.

[Bobobie]

I just had my first run in with Enclave guys and here is a hint for you guys struggling with them. Plasma rifles own them. One headshot and done. Deathclaws and the giant radscorpions seem to be the only thing I have come across that I can't kill fast now.


I've ran into Giant Radscorpions and the Enclave, but I'm yet to encounter any Deathclaws. Where the hell are they?

[TaboriHK]

Norf.

[Layne]

So I was wandering the wasteland just discovering new places, and I came across vault 112 and that computer simulation that my Dad was in. I haven't even been to the radio station yet.. whhhaaat the fuck. Should I go back and do that quest? Or does the fact I found him just wandering around make the story different? I'm so confused.

[Monstercloud]

Yeah, but the only good Karma you can get is by killing the heart. I'm trying to do my first run with all the positive Karma I can get. I didn't know about the other three choices when I posted the message so it was a bit ambiguous.

There's quests that have options that will go towards neutral, like If you let the Ghouls into Tenpenny Tower instead of killing Tenpenny or convincing the tennents to allow the ghouls to live in the tower. If you do said example, you will lose karma if you are good or very good, or gain karma if you are bad or very bad.

You shouldn't worry too much about it, both positive and negative karma caps out at a certain point, and completing a quest with a neutral outcome can result you from going from very bad/good to just good/bad. Accumilating Karma at a certain point just becomes pointless, so don't worry too much about the outcome.

Karma Explanation (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Karma#Fallout_3)

[Bobobie]

So I was wandering the wasteland just discovering new places, and I came across vault 112 and that computer simulation that my Dad was in. I haven't even been to the radio station yet.. whhhaaat the fuck. Should I go back and do that quest? Or does the fact I found him just wandering around make the story different? I'm so confused.

So you didn't talk to the scientist at rivet city? That was where you find out the last location your father was at. After going there, from his notes, you find out the location of vault 12 where he goes to find the Geck Technology. There isn't any mission pointing you there. You just have to go to the Jefferson Memorial to find his notes.

[Jables2002]

I faced a few deathclaws in the north-east and was a bit overwhelmed, so I went through all the trouble to make a dart gun, so I'll be giving that a try and hopefully it's effective.

The first one I faced kept strafing me, but never lunged forward to claw me, so it was really easy to dispatch of. That was just a fluke though. If they are facing you and you are running backwards shooting, you are pretty much fucked unless you have full health :)

And I'm just trying to get a bunch of good karma because I'm an achievement whore.

[Jables2002]

Update:
The dart gun works great on deathclaws. They become really slow. Slower than mirelurks even. Just run backwards and fire away with a shotgun.

[Bobobie]

My next time around I'll concentrate more on making my own weapons. I've bought a few schematics but have not bothered creating anything.

[WoodenPlank]

Ive only got 2 schematics so far (bottlecap mine and Rock-it Launcher). Im still looking out for more. I know Im getting close to the end of the game now.
Im about to go with the Lyons Pride and assault the Purifier and take it back from the Enclave
A shame that you cant keep playing after the end of the main quest line. WTF is up with that? You could do it in Oblivion and Fallout 2.

[Bobobie]

WoodenPlank, I'm in the exact same spot. Seeing that I made so many saves during the game, I'm thinking of going back just before finding my father and doing some other stuff. For one, I'd like to find the Galaxy One Studio.

[WoodenPlank]

WoodenPlank, I'm in the exact same spot. Seeing that I made so many saves during the game, I'm thinking of going back just before finding my father and doing some other stuff. For one, I'd like to find the Galaxy One Studio.

I think Im just past the point of no return with going to retake the purifier, since I just agreed and told them I was ready to go. I get the feeling that once that is over, that its game over. Bah. I might find myself going back to the last save I had before that point and doing some more exploration, too.

[blackout-]

does anyone know where to find flour? can't find any anywhere, need it to make mississippi quantum nuka pie...

[WoodenPlank]

does anyone know where to find flour? can't find any anywhere, need it to make mississippi quantum nuka pie...

I know I saw some recently, but Im not 100% sure where. Maybe in one of the vaults....

[Jables2002]

So is it true that there are only 20 levels? I'm already level 11, and have only just completed "following in his footsteps" (I've been doing lots of side quests and exploring).

[WoodenPlank]

So is it true that there are only 20 levels? I'm already level 11, and have only just completed "following in his footsteps" (I've been doing lots of side quests and exploring).

Yeah, youre capped at level 20.

[Huntermike14]

I think the first ones were great

[WoodenPlank]

I think the first ones were great

:arrrh:
Yeah, I think that goes for pretty much everyone in this thread. Got anything constructive to add?

[Jables2002]

Yeah, youre capped at level 20.

That sucks, I want all of the perks.

[WoodenPlank]

That sucks, I want all of the perks.

If youre on the PC, the console is your friend!

[Bobobie]

I finished the game at Level 16 and avoided the main quest to do as many side quests as possible. I suspect that the average player is going to be concentrating on finishing the game and will not even make the teens.

[WoodenPlank]

Dont open this unless you want the ending ruined...
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT!?! I took the good guy ending - popped a Rad-x, put on Power Armor for the rad resist, gonna see if I could survive, and you die regardless! Jesus christ, that ending is fucking RETARDED! I knew you couldnt continue after the main story, but I didnt know the "good" option at the end killed you. Ugh. Not only that, but I have Fawkes, a fucking radiation-immune super mutant following me around.. why the fuck couldnt I send HIM in there like when he retrieved the G.E.C.K.? God, that ending annoys me on so many damn levels its not even funny. Fuck you, Bethesda...

[TheDrip]

Finally picked it up this past weekend, and I'm amazed at what a great game it is (hadn't played 1or 2). Especially considering all the locations you can discover out in the wasteland. Didn't see it linked, but this map (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_map) blew me away in that there is so much side shit you can do and so much to explore, that the main "find dad" mission is almost a footnote in the game.

[Beeman99]

My guy is as black as they come, and his karma blows, it's fun being a cunt in this

[Bobobie]

Dont open this unless you want the ending ruined...
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT!?! I took the good guy ending - popped a Rad-x, put on Power Armor for the rad resist, gonna see if I could survive, and you die regardless! Jesus christ, that ending is fucking RETARDED! I knew you couldnt continue after the main story, but I didnt know the "good" option at the end killed you. Ugh. Not only that, but I have Fawkes, a fucking radiation-immune super mutant following me around.. why the fuck couldnt I send HIM in there like when he retrieved the G.E.C.K.? God, that ending annoys me on so many damn levels its not even funny. Fuck you, Bethesda...

It doesn't matter, even if you send the BOS chick in there and live, the game still ends. I popped a couple Rad X too. I think the deal is if you are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. Not even Fallout 2 lives up to the choices you had with the original Fallout I. At least they gave you the choice of killing that backstabbing Overseer, or you walked away into the desert. Nothing can beat a cool ending than that. The end story they gave for the Fallout 2 was a lot more detailed too.

[Bobobie]

Finally picked it up this past weekend, and I'm amazed at what a great game it is (hadn't played 1or 2). Especially considering all the locations you can discover out in the wasteland. Didn't see it linked, but this map (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_map) blew me away in that there is so much side shit you can do and so much to explore, that the main "find dad" mission is almost a footnote in the game.

Jesus fuckining christ! I didn't find 90 percent of those locations!

[TheDrip]

Jesus fuckining christ! I didn't find 90 percent of those locations!

Yep, saw that map yesterday afternoon, and decided to switch the way I was play this game to focus on exploring. I figure that dear old dad can wait.

Of course in doing so, I'll probably be addicted to this damn thing for the next few weeks. Which means that COD5 will be waiting on the coffee table in it's wrapper.

BTW, thanks to whoever posted that Fallout Wikia link. It's going to come in very handy in terms of finding weapons, etc. Great find :clap:

[Jables2002]

If youre on the PC, the console is your friend!

How so?

[WoodenPlank]

How so?

The ` key...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/code/918428.html
Nice list of codes there, if youre looking to cheat. Someone is working on a list of spawnable items, too, I believe.
Now that Ive finished the game, I think Im gonna go back, play it again, and cheat my ass off just so I can go around killing everything I want to.

[Jables2002]

The ` key...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/code/918428.html
Nice list of codes there, if youre looking to cheat. Someone is working on a list of spawnable items, too, I believe.
Now that Ive finished the game, I think Im gonna go back, play it again, and cheat my ass off just so I can go around killing everything I want to.

Damn, too bad my computer sucks. On the other hand, at least I don't have the temptation to cheat on my first run through :)

[WOWmagnet]

THe idea in this game is to NOT find dad so fast.

[Bobobie]

THe idea in this game is to NOT find dad so fast.






There is down side to that too. At level 16 with Enclave Power Armor, the last of the game was a walk in the park. I was killing Enclave soldiers Death Claws like they were Raiders. Your character is going to level 20 easily if you manage to explore the whole map. I'm just saying the end of the game is isn't going to be very exciting.

[BIV]

There is down side to that too. At level 16 with Enclave Power Armor, the last of the game was a walk in the park. I was killing Enclave soldiers Death Claws like they were Raiders. Your character is going to level 20 easily if you manage to explore the whole map. I'm just saying the end of the game is isn't going to be very exciting.
How do you learn to use power armor?

[Jables2002]

How do you learn to use power armor?

Apparently you have to go to the Brotherhood Citadel, but to be let in you have to complete the "water of life" quest.

[WOWmagnet]

My robot in Megaton gave me purified water a couple of times. Now he wont give me any more.

Wassup wit' dat?

[TheDrip]

My robot in Megaton gave me purified water a couple of times. Now he wont give me any more.

Wassup wit' dat?

Apparently he gives up 5 at a time, then has to take a while to restock.

[BIV]

His jokes are knee slappers.

[Bobobie]

How do you learn to use power armor?

You can only get training from the Brotherhood of Steel and they won't have anything to do with you until you are close to the end.
By the time you get the option for power armor training, you are on the downward slide to finishing the game.

[EarthCrisis]

I love going to Wilhelm's Wharf and shooting Grandma Sparkle's head off.

[Warfarer]

You can only get training from the Brotherhood of Steel and they won't have anything to do with you until you are close to the end.
By the time you get the option for power armor training, you are on the downward slide to finishing the game.

yep. the timing stinks for power armor. I had a set of power armor that I picked up and repaired to 100% to use and by the time I could use it, I was wearing no armor and just sneaking around and killing everything with one shot anyway. I ended up beating the game in a baseball cap and a suit with my combat shotgun and plasma rifle.

As far as exploring goes, there is no point other than to explore. Capping at level 20 is ridiculous. I finished the game at level 20 with a couple missions left in the main quest and didn't find nearly half of the locations. I think if I found 100% of the places I would have been level 30ish and 100 on all my skills, but the ending would have been no easier, it was still two headshots in the final room.

[WOWmagnet]

His jokes are knee slappers.

...real rib ticklers!

[WoodenPlank]

yep. the timing stinks for power armor. I had a set of power armor that I picked up and repaired to 100% to use and by the time I could use it, I was wearing no armor and just sneaking around and killing everything with one shot anyway. I ended up beating the game in a baseball cap and a suit with my combat shotgun and plasma rifle.

As far as exploring goes, there is no point other than to explore. Capping at level 20 is ridiculous. I finished the game at level 20 with a couple missions left in the main quest and didn't find nearly half of the locations. I think if I found 100% of the places I would have been level 30ish and 100 on all my skills, but the ending would have been no easier, it was still two headshots in the final room.

Or a decent speech skill and NO headshots.

[Warfarer]

Or a decent speech skill and NO headshots.

Why talk when a shotgun settles it faster? I would look at this approach if there was an option to live and continue playing but alas, there wasn't that option.

[WOWmagnet]

I just got the 464-page game guide. I am soooo starting over.

I just made a hot conglomerated mulatta Mooooongrel sort of killer-bitch.

[BIV]

I just got the 464-page game guide. I am soooo starting over.

I just made a hot conglomerated mulatta Mooooongrel sort of killer-bitch.
The game guide (and map) completely rules.

[Aaron Burrito]

The game guide (and map) completely rules.

And the guy that wrote it is a RnF fan.

[WOWmagnet]

And the guy that wrote it is a RnF fan.

Totally cereal?

[Aaron Burrito]

Totally cereal?

They're thanked in the back of the book. He did the same thing in the Mario Kart guide. I think they even named a character after Dave.

[EarthCrisis]

Just got into the Nuka Cola factory, one of the crab people killed me, so I went back in and wasted all my missiles on those fags, overkill rules.

[Bobobie]

Just got into the Nuka Cola factory, one of the crab people killed me, so I went back in and wasted all my missiles on those fags, overkill rules.

I use the scoped 44 magnum on the Crabs. Two or three shots to the face is all it takes.

[EarthCrisis]

I use the scoped 44 magnum on the Crabs. Two or three shots to the face is all it takes.

Man i don't even think I've come across that gun yet, only ammo. and I'm already at level 9.
Have you made the Nuka-grenades yet? holy crap they are sweet.

[WoodenPlank]

The Nuka grenades are great. I just discovered that acquiring multiple copies of the same schematic is actually a good thing, as each successive copy allows you to make improved versions.
Oh, and the dart gun fucking RULES.

[EarthCrisis]

The Nuka grenades are great. I just discovered that acquiring multiple copies of the same schematic is actually a good thing, as each successive copy allows you to make improved versions.
Oh, and the dart gun fucking RULES.

Wow I didn't even realize that, this game just gets better and better, I'm waiting for awhile to even come close to finishing main quest...kinda sucks you can't play after end. I'm gonna be an evil bastard on the next go around.

[WoodenPlank]

Wow I didn't even realize that, this game just gets better and better, I'm waiting for awhile to even come close to finishing main quest...kinda sucks you can't play after end. I'm gonna be an evil bastard on the next go around.

Im doing neutral right now. I disarmed the bomb in Megaton, then turned around, stole the sherrifs house key and raided the armory. :icon_evil
I know the v.2 Rock-it Launcher says its improved by 10% over the regular, but I dont know what it means by that.

[EarthCrisis]

Im doing neutral right now. I disarmed the bomb in Megaton, then turned around, stole the sherrifs house key and raided the armory. :icon_evil
I know the v.2 Rock-it Launcher says its improved by 10% over the regular, but I dont know what it means by that.

Nice I saved it then tried to blast his son but he didn't get hurt. If I know i'm gonna do something evil i'll just make an extra save first. But that town is going down when I re-start the game. Did you buy the schematic for the launcher or find it?

[WoodenPlank]

Nice I saved it then tried to blast his son but he didn't get hurt. If I know i'm gonna do something evil i'll just make an extra save first. But that town is going down when I re-start the game. Did you buy the schematic for the launcher or find it?

I cheated one (teleported to the developer room) and bought I think 2 more. Ive bought 3 or 4 schematics in addition to getting one of each from the dev room. This is my second run through, so Im cheating a lot of shit just to see what all I can do with it. My character's SPECIAL is straight 10s this time, and at level 5 Ive already got 100 in small guns. I havent hacked my skills (yet) but I probably will be doing that over the weekend. I want to explore the whole map and try to get some of the unique weapons and other shit I missed last time.
Edit: If Im not mistaken, Kids are unkillable in F3.

[TheDrip]

Man i don't even think I've come across that gun yet, only ammo. and I'm already at level 9..

You can find one in a safe in one of the first burned out houses you come across in Springvale, when you first leave the vault.

[Jables2002]

You can find one in a safe in one of the first burned out houses you come across in Springvale, when you first leave the vault.

There is also one in the ground floor of Roosevelt Academy (lots of Super Mutants in there though). Its either in the nurse station, or the administration office. Can't quite remember.

[Bobobie]

Man i don't even think I've come across that gun yet, only ammo. and I'm already at level 9.
Have you made the Nuka-grenades yet? holy crap they are sweet.

No, I need all my Nuka Cola Quantums for the Nuka Cola Challenge Quest.
I'm maxed out on XP. I don't get the neat Kaching sound after killing something anymore.

I've been putting all my regular Nuka Colas in my Nuka Cola Machine at my house in Megaton.

Does anyone know what Ice Cold Nuka cola is good for? I'm assuming there is someone who will pay a premium price for them, like the chick who buys the Quantums. The damned Bitch at the Megaton Supply pays the same price as regular nuka-Cola. I'm assuming there is a practical reason to spend 600 caps for a machine to make ICe Cold Nuka Cola.

I came back to Megaton today and Jericho was lying dead in the street. Did I miss something? I never had him as a partner.

[TaboriHK]

Did some bullets sneak out of your gun?

[Bobobie]

I did a search on this and people claim there is a bug where the megaton settlers sometimes manage to fall from the top of the crater to the bottom. Another person who falls and gets killed is Walter. He is way up top in the water purfication plant. This makes sense because I've not been able to find him since level Five.

[Jables2002]

Does anyone know what Ice Cold Nuka cola is good for? I'm assuming there is someone who will pay a premium price for them, like the chick who buys the Quantums.

I'm pretty sure they just give you more health than a regular one.

[Bobobie]

Yeah, someone told me they give you as much health as Quantum with still only +2 rads.

Oh, I ran across a bunch of Deathclaws way up north in a place called old Olney. I depleted my entire supply of 30+ stimpacks and over 40 missiles. I also used up whatever I had of mines and grenades. I then had to go get my armor and weapons repaired, get more missiles, and then go back to finish the job. These were nothing like the ones I ran across in the Enclave or random encounters. They didn't have a special name or anything, but they took damage like the giant mutants and one could kill me with 3-4 good swipes. They are also the fastest creatures in the game. You can't outrun these bastards. It was pretty humbling. At level 20, I kill most things with 1-2 shots.

[Jables2002]

Oh, I ran across a bunch of Deathclaws way up north in a place called old Olney. I depleted my entire supply of 30+ stimpacks and over 40 missiles. I also used up whatever I had of mines and grenades. I then had to go get my armor and weapons repaired, get more missiles, and then go back to finish the job. These were nothing like the ones I ran across in the Enclave or random encounters. They didn't have a special name or anything, but they took damage like the giant mutants and one could kill me with 3-4 good swipes. They are also the fastest creatures in the game. You can't outrun these bastards. It was pretty humbling. At level 20, I kill most things with 1-2 shots.

Dude. Dartgun. It's the ONLY way to go. It's a fuckin savior. Unless there is more than one attacking you. Then it could still be a challenge.

Speaking of humbling. Anyone go into the Dunwich Building in the lower southwest corner of the map? I got about 15 feet in and high-tailed it out of there. Fucking creepy :)

[Bobobie]

Gotcha. I just have to find a paintgun and some surgical tubing. I'm just going to scrounge places I've already been thru. I didn't pick up a lot that stuff because I was always lugging more expensive loot like weapons and armor.

[PunchYourself187]

This game seems a lot smaller than Oblivion, but when it was being developed, I remember them saying that it would be much larger.

It was at least a lot easier to get quests in Oblivion. Everything is way more spread out and obstructed.

I wasn't expecting it to end when it did and I had to cheat to figure out how to do what had to be done. Still a fun game - the VATS system makes it.

[Bobobie]

You only think it's small until you find out how little you actually explored.
It's only really obstructed around the DC area. You have to use the Subway tunnel system to find most of the places, but once a place is located you can fast travel there from then on.

[Warfarer]

Level 12 and I am already more powerful than the first time I finished the game at level 20. I have the alien blaster, a321 plasma rifle, missles, flamer, reservist's rifle, blackhawk, combat shotgun, chinese assault and a sawed off shotgun. I still carry no armor, only a suit and the shady hat so I save a lot of weight with that part. I have about half of the bobbleheads so far and have explored almost the entire map except the downtown area. My dude is 100% evil this time to the point where I used the mister sandman to kill everyone in Megaton before blowing up the town.

Bad is fun.

[Bobobie]

That sounds like fun.
Yeah, I'm not going to spread my skills out as much next time. I'm going to concentrate on three areas and pick perks that build those up.
I finished the Nuka Cola Challenge ... it was underwhelming. That was my last outstanding sidequest. I'm going to start a second game now.

[Warfarer]

mister sandman is really tough to use. I think the next perk I am getting will be lady killer to see what it does for conversations.

and I wonder if they will bring out a Commonwealth expansion.

[Jables2002]

They need to make this into a movie. The story isn't the greatest, but post-apocalyptic D.C. would be amazing on the big screen. I would want a movie on the Brotherhood of Steel alone.

[PunchYourself187]

Level 12 and I am already more powerful than the first time I finished the game at level 20. I have the alien blaster, a321 plasma rifle, missles, flamer, reservist's rifle, blackhawk, combat shotgun, chinese assault and a sawed off shotgun. I still carry no armor, only a suit and the shady hat so I save a lot of weight with that part. I have about half of the bobbleheads so far and have explored almost the entire map except the downtown area. My dude is 100% evil this time to the point where I used the mister sandman to kill everyone in Megaton before blowing up the town.

Bad is fun.Seems like it's always easier to be bad in these types of games.

I had reached a point where I kept dieing, so I set the difficulty to the lowest setting. Then the game just became fun - it changes the experience from a series of challenges to just being a kind of interactive story.

[PunchYourself187]

So what's everyone's favorite weapon?

I think The Fisto is still my favorite.

It's also pretty cool when the Mysterious Stranger shows up.

[Jables2002]

So what's everyone's favorite weapon?

I think The Fisto is still my favorite.

It's also pretty cool when the Mysterious Stranger shows up.

I'm loving Lincoln's repeater. One headshot kills on Enclave soldiers. Most of the time I switch between that, a combat shotgun, Chinese assault rifle, and Reservist's sniper rifle. Depending on the situation.

[WoodenPlank]

The Ultra 10mm SMG, sniper rifle, and the unique chinese AK47. However, the mesmetron is a damn riot.... when it works.

[BIV]

The Ultra 10mm SMG, sniper rifle, and the unique chinese AK47. However, the mesmetron is a damn riot.... when it works.
The dart gun mesmatron combo seems to work well.

[WoodenPlank]

The dart gun mesmatron combo seems to work well.

Damn, almost forgot about the dart gun.

[Warfarer]

my next thing I want to do now is to hunt and kill all 5 Mutant Bohemoths. And I am about to head to the GNR building for the first one.

As for my favorite gun, mine has to be the A3-21 plasma rifle. it turns people to dust when you kill them with it.