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jagsfans
06-22-2008, 11:05 PM
Sitting here watching Batman and Robin with the rifftrax.

http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/batman-and-robin

I am pondered with the question, what is the worst superhero movie to be made.

Vote and comment please.

I actually don't hate Daredevil, but I included it because a lot of people do.

EarthCrisis
06-22-2008, 11:13 PM
punisher was gay too. the new one looks a lot better.

Mindslayer
06-22-2008, 11:23 PM
I voted for FF, although its neck and neck with Batman and Robin.

Hudson
06-22-2008, 11:24 PM
doest this include the "SOOO bad they go to Cable Movies?"
If So, Captain America.
Missing in poll:
Masters of the Universe
Swamp Thing 1 and 2
Origional FF4 by Roger Corman (good luck finding it)
Condorman..A movie so bad..even Disney disavows it.

mascan42
06-23-2008, 12:00 AM
I had to go with Spiderman 3, just because it was such a huge disappointment after the first two.

MrBogey
06-23-2008, 12:07 AM
I give sequels a pass because it's a sequel. It's like being surprised to see a nasty Asian butcher shop or a diseased up crackwhore. You can't expect it to be good so you can't be disappointed in it as much.

ruckstande
06-23-2008, 12:18 AM
Sitting here watching Batman and Robin with the rifftrax.

http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/batman-and-robin

I am pondered with the question, what is the worst superhero movie to be made.

Vote and comment please.

I actually don't hate Daredevil, but I included it because a lot of people do.
You rule for listening with Rifftrax.

Sam_Adams
06-23-2008, 12:30 AM
honestly i have only seen "batman and robin" out of the selection.

I don't really go watch comic book movies because most of them are garbage and for kids.

jagsfans
06-23-2008, 12:34 AM
I give sequels a pass because it's a sequel. It's like being surprised to see a nasty Asian butcher shop or a diseased up crackwhore. You can't expect it to be good so you can't be disappointed in it as much.

Gotta disagree w/you. Spiderman 2 and X-Men 2 were better than their originals that were quite good as well.

MrBogey
06-23-2008, 12:44 AM
Gotta disagree w/you. Spiderman 2 and X-Men 2 were better than their originals that were quite good as well.

And every now and then a crackwhore isn't disease infested.

jagsfans
06-23-2008, 12:51 AM
You rule for listening with Rifftrax.

Thanks, gotta love the Rifftrax. The Sixth Sense is coming up soon.

WhiteHonkyDevil
06-23-2008, 12:54 AM
Sitting here watching Batman and Robin with the rifftrax.

http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/batman-and-robin

I am pondered with the question, what is the worst superhero movie to be made.

Vote and comment please.

I actually don't hate Daredevil, but I included it because a lot of people do.

I don't suppose you'd send me your rifftrax? I've only got 2 (Road House and The 5th Element), what you got? PM me.

As for the topic. Definitely Batman and Robin. It was terrible in ways I can't even find words bad enough to describe it.

Snake2k9
06-23-2008, 01:12 AM
"Let's kick some ice."

It will always be Batman and Robin for me because even as a ten year old watching it in the theater,when I saw skates come out of their boots,I sat through the whole movie wondering how those blades would fit inside the boots and would it be uncomfortable and how did they know they needed the skates.

Vyce
06-23-2008, 01:46 AM
Batman & Robin doesn't make the cut for me, because it's at least so-bad-it's-good-to-goof-on, making it perfect for something like Rifftrax.

Of the big budget superhero movies, about the worst I ever saw was one that's not even on the list: Spawn. God what a piece of shit that was.

The real answer though is Corman's Fantastic Four. Words can't even describe how awful that fucking film is. I mean, really, it makes every single film on this list look like a fucking Scorcese epic, that's how terrible it is.

Edit: Oh, and can I just say that Hulk 2003 was in no way a bad film at ALL. It's actually one of the BEST comic book movies of the last decade or so, people just shat all over it because, gasp, Ang Lee actually tried to develop a STORY and include some drama, rather than give you 2 hours of "Hulk Smash", which is apparently all people were looking for.

LiddyRules
06-23-2008, 01:54 AM
The real answer though is Corman's Fantastic Four. Words can't even describe how awful that fucking film is. I mean, really, it makes every single film on this list look like a fucking Scorcese epic, that's how terrible it is. I wouldn't count that because it a) never had a theatrical release and b) was better than the two actual Fantastic Four movies.

I do agree with Batman and Robin not being the worst. For starters, it was made before the big superhero boom so I kind of don't hold that against it and it probably has a higher re-watchability factor than most of the "good" superhero movies. I've seen that one more times than I care to admit.

I forgot what I put down as the worst earlier in this thread. Maybe Punisher or F4. Oh, this is a new thread. Well I might have to go with one of those three (F41, F42, Punisher). As bad as Spidey 3 was, I remember thinking about much how epic a movie that had 70% of people crying seemed than a movie about fucking Galactus. It's Galactus. He fucking eats worlds. And the climactic battle is in a "China" set that made Hollywood 1930s China seem fully authentic and detailed.

Thanks, gotta love the Rifftrax. The Sixth Sense is coming up soon. The Matrix 2 RT was one of the best I've heard. And, keeping it to the subject at hand, the Fantastic Four Rifftraxs are incredible and Spidey 3 is a must listen.

Sam_Adams
06-23-2008, 02:02 AM
"Let's kick some ice."

It will always be Batman and Robin for me because even as a ten year old watching it in the theater,when I saw skates come out of their boots,I sat through the whole movie wondering how those blades would fit inside the boots and would it be uncomfortable and how did they know they needed the skates.

Looking back all of the batman movies were awful, except for Batman (1989) with Michael Keaton.

The versions with Val Kilmer and George Clooney aren't worth a damn.

I'm glad they brought back Batman as a dark film instead of a fucking cartoon.

Oh, well I forgot about Batman Returns. It wasn't bad. Michelle was fucking smoking hot. They should have stopped making batman movies after Keaton until this new guy.

Glenn Dandy
06-23-2008, 02:05 AM
" HEMOROID MAN" was kinda out there on the edge.....:icon_roll

oooh, dear god take the beer from my fists.

Put me in Bad joke prison... or a rehab.

jagsfans
06-23-2008, 02:43 AM
I wouldn't count that because it a) never had a theatrical release and b) was better than the two actual Fantastic Four movies.

I do agree with Batman and Robin not being the worst. For starters, it was made before the big superhero boom so I kind of don't hold that against it and it probably has a higher re-watchability factor than most of the "good" superhero movies. I've seen that one more times than I care to admit.

I forgot what I put down as the worst earlier in this thread. Maybe Punisher or F4. Oh, this is a new thread. Well I might have to go with one of those three (F41, F42, Punisher). As bad as Spidey 3 was, I remember thinking about much how epic a movie that had 70% of people crying seemed than a movie about fucking Galactus. It's Galactus. He fucking eats worlds. And the climactic battle is in a "China" set that made Hollywood 1930s China seem fully authentic and detailed.

The Matrix 2 RT was one of the best I've heard. And, keeping it to the subject at hand, the Fantastic Four Rifftraxs are incredible and Spidey 3 is a must listen.

That's why I didnt include Corman;s F4 in the list. Thanks for those Rifftrax recommendations. I bought those already, but havent had time to listen. I'll make it a priority.

jagsfans
06-23-2008, 02:47 AM
Looking back all of the batman movies were awful, except for Batman (1989) with Michael Keaton.

The versions with Val Kilmer and George Clooney aren't worth a damn.

I'm glad they brought back Batman as a dark film instead of a fucking cartoon.

Oh, well I forgot about Batman Returns. It wasn't bad. Michelle was fucking smoking hot. They should have stopped making batman movies after Keaton until this new guy.

The 80's/90's Batman's were ruined when WB decided Tim Burton's dark Batman's (Joker / Penguin / Catwoman) were too dark and didn't sell enough toys and happy meals. So they gave it to Schumacher who proceeded to piss all over it.

and thanks to the mod for adding Punisher and Catwoman. I thought I had remembered them all. :action-sm

Glenn Dandy
06-23-2008, 02:48 AM
That's why I didnt include Corman;s F4 in the list. Thanks for those Rifftrax recommendations. I bought those already, but havent had time to listen. I'll make it a priority.

Did I trip into the dorkfest? Wheres the fucking door?

I never beat people like you up in highschool... but I did save you from lesser beings.. the new friend call never worked out.

god thats weird.


half my friends are saves but you guys are really dorky. If you dont understand... please dont reply.

I wish you much sex...

With a woman.


CLUE... In reality a girl would freakout if you were Spiderman... first of all cause your jewish... SPIDERMEN.

Second of all the leotard.

Leaving a date cause someones dieing? unacceptable to a woman.

I kid... but mostly true.

GLENN_THE_TOOL
06-23-2008, 03:11 AM
this pretty much sums up Batman & Robin in 30 seconds:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZU7tzVu2h6k&hl=en"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZU7tzVu2h6k&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

roche
06-23-2008, 03:17 AM
Superwoman was the worst hands down.

boardsofcanada
06-23-2008, 03:20 AM
they all blow...

BigTony
06-23-2008, 04:04 AM
I was gonna say something but I couldn't stop watching rukstande's sig clip!:icon_eek::icon_bigg:clap: Now I forgot. Gonna watch again!:icon_mrgr

AFA
06-23-2008, 04:06 AM
I was gonna say something but I couldn't stop watching rukstande's sig clip!:icon_eek::icon_bigg:clap: Now I forgot. Gonna watch again!:icon_mrgr

x2

ruckstande
06-23-2008, 07:19 AM
I was gonna say something but I couldn't stop watching rukstande's sig clip!:icon_eek::icon_bigg:clap: Now I forgot. Gonna watch again!:icon_mrgr

Yeah, the video is even better.

Warfarer
06-23-2008, 07:48 AM
What is the video, I need it for research.

Dopie Opie
06-23-2008, 08:39 AM
Did I trip into the dorkfest? Wheres the fucking door?

I never beat people like you up in highschool... but I did save you from lesser beings.. the new friend call never worked out.

god thats weird.


half my friends are saves but you guys are really dorky. If you dont understand... please dont reply.

I wish you much sex...

With a woman.




CLUE... In reality a girl would freakout if you were Spiderman... first of all cause your jewish... SPIDERMEN.

Second of all the leotard.

Leaving a date cause someones dieing? unacceptable to a woman.

I kid... but mostly true.


GD is the fucking bestest....

ruckstande
06-23-2008, 09:23 AM
What is the video, I need it for research.

If I remember I'll tell you when I watch it again.

kloraferm
06-23-2008, 10:10 AM
Passion of the Christ?

asswiper
06-23-2008, 11:21 AM
Passion of the Christ?

Isn't that more of a zombie movie?

kloraferm
06-23-2008, 11:57 AM
Isn't that more of a zombie movie?
Good point (although mostly at the end) :rolleyes:

SuperGolfer
06-23-2008, 12:34 PM
I'd like to write-in Supergirl and Superman Returns.

Xyn
06-23-2008, 02:10 PM
I went with Batman and Robin, but I'd like to write in Shaquille O'Neal for Steel as a nominee.

lilherojimmy
06-23-2008, 02:14 PM
Which punisher movie, the Thomas Jane one or the old Dolph Lundgren one?

What about the old Captain America flick. Don't remember who was in it, but it sucked.

kloraferm
06-23-2008, 03:09 PM
Which punisher movie, the Thomas Jane one or the old Dolph Lundgren one?
I personally thought the Thomas Jane one was better then it got credit for. Not saying it was great, but it was okay.

mikeybot
06-23-2008, 03:34 PM
From the list I'm going with Catwoman, just because of the utter lack of relation to source material and the fact that it completely bombed.

Stormrider666
06-23-2008, 06:01 PM
1.Batman and Robin: Nothing more to add than what was already said.

2.X-Men 3: Memo to studios, concentrate on the movie you're making, instead of thinking ahead to a characther's spin-off movie.

3.Spiderman 3: Just watched it on cable. So bad I had to watch it in 2 parts, because I was seething with anger after the first hour. Under-characther development(Eddie Brock/Venom). Over-characther development(Sandman). Then completely falls apart by rushing the story, to tie up all loose ends.

4.Superman 3, 4, Returns, and Supergirl: Just lump all 4 shitty movies into one steaming pile.

5.Punisher (Thomas Jane): Had high hopes because I think Thomas Jane is a pretty good actor. Punched out after the news conference scene.

6.Captain America: Shitty Red Skull Make-up, the fact that he was made into an Italian, and it looked like Steve Rogers never got the Super-Soldier serum.

Crap like Catwoman, Steel, and Nick Fury shouldn't even be mentioned as comic book movies.

WhiteHonkyDevil
06-23-2008, 06:12 PM
So...I'm just guessing that I was the only one who used to whack my bag to Helen Slater in the Supergirl outfit?

That alone is reason enough for me to think it's better than Batman and Robin.

LiddyRules
06-23-2008, 07:32 PM
So...I'm just guessing that I was the only one who used to whack my bag to Helen Slater in the Supergirl outfit?

That alone is reason enough for me to think it's better than Batman and Robin. Well I wacked my bag to Uma in B&R. Bag wackage should not be a substitute for quality.

WhiteHonkyDevil
06-23-2008, 07:39 PM
Well I wacked my bag to Uma in B&R. Bag wackage should not be a substitute for quality.

But it does make it suck less to the jackinator

jagsfans
06-23-2008, 11:47 PM
2.X-Men 3: Memo to studios, concentrate on the movie you're making, instead of thinking ahead to a characther's spin-off movie.

It wasn't even that they were setting up Wolverine's spinoff as much as it wasted a great story-line of Phoenix. Plus the fact that the studio was so obsessed with money that to squeeze an extra showing a day in each theatre they insisted on a hour and a half movie instead of a 2 hour plus movie.

LiddyRules
06-23-2008, 11:55 PM
It wasn't even that they were setting up Wolverine's spinoff as much as it wasted a great story-line of Phoenix. Plus the fact that the studio was so obsessed with money that to squeeze an extra showing a day in each theatre they insisted on a hour and a half movie instead of a 2 hour plus movie. Yeah, I don't blame the Wolverine prequel/spinoff movie for the failure of X3. If they merely wanted it to be a commercial for Wolverine, there were a lot better ways to do it. They just decided to make it as bland, generic and milquetoast as possible.

silentbob8201
06-24-2008, 12:08 AM
Sitting here watching Batman and Robin with the rifftrax.

http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/batman-and-robin

I am pondered with the question, what is the worst superhero movie to be made.

Vote and comment please.

I actually don't hate Daredevil, but I included it because a lot of people do.

Daredevil Directors cut is actually a pretty decent movie, And Howard the Duck is bar none the worst fucking comic book movie.

LiddyRules
06-24-2008, 12:11 AM
Daredevil Directors cut is actually a pretty decent movie, And Howard the Duck is bar none the worst fucking comic book movie. Disagree. It's cheesy 80s charm (like Just One of the Guys) makes it better than something like Fantastic Four.

jagsfans
06-24-2008, 12:30 AM
Daredevil Directors cut is actually a pretty decent movie, And Howard the Duck is bar none the worst fucking comic book movie.

I fully agree. I bought the Daredevil Director's cut because it was crazy cheap and I really enjoyed it.

THE FEZ MAN
06-24-2008, 12:34 AM
doest this include the "SOOO bad they go to Cable Movies?"
If So, Captain America.
Missing in poll:
Masters of the Universe
Swamp Thing 1 and 2
Origional FF4 by Roger Corman (good luck finding it)
Condorman..A movie so bad..even Disney disavows it.


HOLY shit, condorman....... i saw that at the drive in as a double feature with "The last flight of noha's ark" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081031/

the best part of condor man was the guy with the silver eye, and the porche hit team... oh that and the bad voice overs.... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082199/

GLENN_THE_TOOL
06-24-2008, 12:37 AM
Sitting here watching Batman and Robin with the rifftrax.

http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/batman-and-robin

I am pondered with the question, what is the worst superhero movie to be made.

Vote and comment please.

I actually don't hate Daredevil, but I included it because a lot of people do.

i had to download this and listen, probably the most fun watching Batman & Robin i've ever had (but then again, smashing my skull in with a mallet while watching would also make this horrendous movie fun too, but i digress). damn i miss MST3K.

one line i have to point out, during the scene when Batman's realigning the satellites, Mike says "Hey! That satellite was beaming Howard Stern to the homes of all three of his listeners!" think he listens to the bbboys?

jagsfans
06-24-2008, 02:40 AM
i had to download this and listen, probably the most fun watching Batman & Robin i've ever had (but then again, smashing my skull in with a mallet while watching would also make this horrendous movie fun too, but i digress). damn i miss MST3K.

one line i have to point out, during the scene when Batman's realigning the satellites, Mike says "Hey! That satellite was beaming Howard Stern to the homes of all three of his listeners!" think he listens to the bbboys?

I caught that too, but that particular track was written by fans.

Stormrider666
06-24-2008, 04:10 PM
1.Batman and Robin: Nothing more to add than what was already said.

2.X-Men 3: Memo to studios, concentrate on the movie you're making, instead of thinking ahead to a characther's spin-off movie.

3.Spiderman 3: Just watched it on cable. So bad I had to watch it in 2 parts, because I was seething with anger after the first hour. Under-characther development(Eddie Brock/Venom). Over-characther development(Sandman). Then completely falls apart by rushing the story, to tie up all loose ends.

4.Superman 3, 4, Returns, and Supergirl: Just lump all 4 shitty movies into one steaming pile.

5.Punisher (Thomas Jane): Had high hopes because I think Thomas Jane is a pretty good actor. Punched out after the news conference scene.

6.Captain America: Shitty Red Skull Make-up, the fact that he was made into an Italian, and it looked like Steve Rogers never got the Super-Soldier serum.

Crap like Catwoman, Steel, and Nick Fury shouldn't even be mentioned as comic book movies.

I gave some more thought on 3 other films:

7.X-Men: Hindsight being 20/20, I guess it was no suprise that the overall trilogy was a disappointment. I'm still pissed with what they did with Sabretooth.

8.Hulk(Ang Lee) I understood what Lee was trying to do with the pyschological aspect which was pretty cool. However at the same time, Lee forget it was comic book movie. Plus Hulk poodles and Nick Nolte's transformation at the end didn't help either.

9.Predator vs Alien: I know its not a superhero movie, but how could you possibly fuck up something with so much potential.

Mort
06-24-2008, 07:20 PM
this pretty much sums up Batman & Robin in 30 seconds:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZU7tzVu2h6k&hl=en"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZU7tzVu2h6k&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

What does it say about us as a country that this guy is the leader of our most populous state?

LiddyRules
06-24-2008, 07:39 PM
What does it say about us as a country that this guy is the leader of our most populous state? That we're able to forgive and give people a chance to make amends for their past badness. And isn't that what America's all about?

Edible Napalm
06-24-2008, 08:11 PM
Three Words: Super Hero Movie.

fandango86
06-24-2008, 11:08 PM
Wow, I kind of forgot how many truly awful superhero movies there have been, and there's a ton you could have put on here in addition to this list of garbage. Superman III, anyone?

I voted for Superman IV. It broke both of the cardinal rules of making superhero movies - don't fundamentally change the villain and under no circumstances should you ever attempt to create your own villain. Even with Hackman back, Luthor was nothing like any portrayal in fifty years of comics, and let's not even talk about Nuclear Man or whatever the fuck he was.

If you look at most of the movies on this list, they all made one of those key mistakes:

Batman and Robin - I don't know what that was, but it wasn't anything resembling any version of Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, or Bane I'd ever seen in the comics.

Daredevil - Yup, that's a black guy. With a speech impediment. Playing the Kingpin.

The Hulk - Enough with you faggots trying to say this movie was passable. Being irradiated with gamma waves is problem enough - the daddy issues were completely unnecessary and ruined the movie. It wasn't plot, it was a fucking disaster. I assume at the end they were trying to say Daddy became the Absorbing Man, so they broke both rules at the same time, in addition to fundamentally changing the hero? A failure on every level imaginable. If you want to watch a good Ang Lee movie, watch Crouching Tiger or even Brokeback, but stop trying to say this movie was good. It stunk.

Fantastic Four - I don't think this movie should be on the list. Doom was a little bit different, but I thought it captured the spirit of the comics well. If you didn't like the movie, you probably weren't a fan of the comics.

Superman Returns - I actually liked this movie as well, except for Superbaby. But I give it extra credit for saying Superman III and IV never happened.

Spiderman 3 - Was Harry supposed to be the Hobgoblin or the Green Goblin II? Either way he was a faggot and this movie is teh ghey.

Fantastic Four : Rise of the Silver Surfer - They got the Surfer 100% right but got Galactus 100% wrong. Don't be afraid of 250' tall dudes in purple spandex. Either people are going to go with it or not, but the change alienated everyone.

Punisher - Inventing a villain is bad. Having John Travolta portray him is worse.

I never saw Elektra, Catwoman, Ghost Rider, Blade, or Supergirl. Sometimes I'm smart enough to just say no.

25133WhooOoAH
06-25-2008, 04:42 PM
I hate them all lol...Only Batman Begins is good IMO


I voted Superhero IV....I watch this movie just to have a good laugh..Its abysmal.

MikeHimself
06-25-2008, 09:53 PM
i haven't seen all of these but i know that the fantastic four movies are soo bad. i really hated them

LiddyRules
06-25-2008, 10:01 PM
Fantastic Four - I don't think this movie should be on the list. Doom was a little bit different, but I thought it captured the spirit of the comics well. If you didn't like the movie, you probably weren't a fan of the comics. A little different? He's Generic Evil Corporate Guy, not a black magic obsessed dictator. Neither F1 or F2 had any sort of epicness Fantastic Four ought to have. It's probably the most space-based of all the major comic characters; excluding Superman who came from Space and you never got the sense of the sci-fi zaniness that the movie ought to have. The cast sucked and it just seemed very cheaply and poorly done. It seemed more like an action movie featuring people with super powers than a superhero movie.

kloraferm
06-26-2008, 02:54 PM
Steel?

Steve McQueen
06-26-2008, 03:02 PM
Steel?

A Superman spin-off that never even mentions Superman. Even the Wikipedia entry is painful to read. Don't even research it.

Phi Mu Alpha
06-26-2008, 03:15 PM
punisher was gay too. the new one looks a lot better.
They are making a sequel to the punisher?

Snake2k9
06-26-2008, 04:18 PM
Reboot...I think.

RadioMercenary
07-02-2008, 11:40 AM
I voted for Catwoman, that is the biggest dogshit movie ever, for one it has nothing to do with Batman, and two the villain makes makeup that fucks up women's faces? what is that?

I mean I won't lie there were a few of those movies I thought didn't deserve to be on the list.

The Thomas Jane Punisher is imo one of the most underrated comic movies ever, yeah Travolta as the villain was kind of lame but still it was definately solid.

Daredevil, Elektra, and Blade Trinity were decent enough, I was entertained, hardly top pantheon stuff, but I can't hate there.

Fantastic Four: I liked the second one, the first was meh, my comment though: we get it you make Jessica Alba naked because she can be invisible.

Superman, I actually enjoyed Superman Returns if only for the potential the sequel holds with Singer talking about an alien villain. That said part 4 and Supergirl sounded so bad I never bothered to watch, so I can't fairly vote for those.

Ghost Rider and Hulk (I assume we're talking the Eric Bana one) were pretty bad, but they at least had hot broads and a somewhat feasible premise for their characters, more so then dogshit Catwoman

Spider-Man 3, now this I can rant on, but you waste Venom for lame Sandman. Yeah I get Sandman is a classic villain, but first off they shoehorn a connection to Peter in (you know, how Green Goblin was his best friend's dad and Doc Ock was an influence of sorts) by making him be Uncle Ben's killer, which is bullshit. In theory the whole reason Peter Parker becomes Spider-Man the hero is because he doesn't stop the random crook who kills Uncle Ben. So if this guy didn't kill Uncle Ben, WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT!?

Second, yeah it's sad his daughter has a terminal disease...I don't care.

Third, Venom was such a waste. I actually enjoyed the Ultimate-esque take on Eddie Brock, and though stylistically Venom looked terrific for the 4 minutes he was in the movie. But he knows Peter is Spider-Man, Spider Sense doesn't work on him, in the comics he would just taunt him and fuck with him, not to mention he wants to kill Spidey himself. They really could have done something good with that, have Venom just fuck with his life instead of having him find Sandman and make a glorified cameo for a weaker villain that just makes for cool CGI effects.

Finally, MJ turns into a bitch, and they could have had a better plot with Green Goblin as the first act villain instead of dumb Sandman.

That said, it's still better then the piece of dogshit that is Catwoman.

DR. Jimcy M.E.
07-02-2008, 01:28 PM
Either the fantastic four movies because there simply awful or the xmen movies because everyone always gushes over them when there really bad.

jagsfans
07-02-2008, 05:01 PM
I'll never understand why FF2 is regarded as better than FF1. Neither was good, but FF2 was so full of unfunny puns and sight gags it was just fucking ridiculous.

LiddyRules
07-02-2008, 05:42 PM
I'll never understand why FF2 is regarded as better than FF1. Neither was good, but FF2 was so full of unfunny puns and sight gags it was just fucking ridiculous. I still laugh thinking about the China set.

Did Johnny Storm do the Popeye to Blutto punching bag effect to Dr. Doom at the end or was I just imagining other silly uses for their power?

jagsfans
07-02-2008, 06:15 PM
I still laugh thinking about the China set.

Did Johnny Storm do the Popeye to Blutto punching bag effect to Dr. Doom at the end or was I just imagining other silly uses for their power?

That set was absurd. I've seen more realistic sets in Billy Wilder movies.

RadioMercenary
07-03-2008, 01:13 PM
I'll never understand why FF2 is regarded as better than FF1. Neither was good, but FF2 was so full of unfunny puns and sight gags it was just fucking ridiculous.

Silver Surfer looks cool? That's my reason.

fandango86
07-03-2008, 02:23 PM
A little different? He's Generic Evil Corporate Guy, not a black magic obsessed dictator. Neither F1 or F2 had any sort of epicness Fantastic Four ought to have. It's probably the most space-based of all the major comic characters; excluding Superman who came from Space and you never got the sense of the sci-fi zaniness that the movie ought to have. The cast sucked and it just seemed very cheaply and poorly done. It seemed more like an action movie featuring people with super powers than a superhero movie.

I just went back and re-read the John Byrne run on FF, and you've got a point. While the movie did a good job capturing the spirit of the Fantastic Four, they fucked up Doom too much and definitely lost the epic feel of the comic at it's peak. I stand corrected, it stinks.

Biff Hardslab
07-04-2008, 01:40 AM
Was Judge Dredd a superhero? Because that movie was fucking awful.

jagsfans
07-05-2008, 07:25 PM
AOL has complied their own list.

1. Catwoman
2. Batman and Robin
3. Elektra
4. Ghost Rider
5. Fantastic Four : Rise of the Silver Surfer
6. Supergirl
7. Daredevil
8. The Punisher
9. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
10. Superman IV

Hard to argue with most of this. I forgot about League earlier. After that pile of shit it's no wonder Alan Moore wants nothing to do with Hollywood. I still have high hopes for Zack Snyder with Watchmen.

silentbob8201
07-05-2008, 07:34 PM
AOL has complied their own list.

1. Catwoman
2. Batman and Robin
3. Elektra
4. Ghost Rider
5. Fantastic Four : Rise of the Silver Surfer
6. Supergirl
7. Daredevil
8. The Punisher
9. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
10. Superman IV

Hard to argue with most of this. I forgot about League earlier. After that pile of shit it's no wonder Alan Moore wants nothing to do with Hollywood. I still have high hopes for Zack Snyder with Watchmen.Well yeah, and the fact he read a awful first draft of From Hell where Johnny Depp and Heather Graham end up together at the end. Oh and Joel Silver claiming he approved of the V for Vendetta script that was the kicker really with Watchmen.