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XMScott
06-30-2008, 10:41 AM
Trophies, like Achievements for the 360

Video : http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/30/firmware-v240-walkthrough-part-2-trophies/


In game XMB, access your "dashboard" at any time on the PS3
Video: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/30/firmware-v240-walkthrough-part-2-trophies/

Coming soon.

Snake2k9
06-30-2008, 11:00 AM
It's coming July 2. It says that on the trophies video post.

MrBogey
06-30-2008, 11:11 AM
Yeah..I posted about the rumor in June. Good to see they have a date now.

Blue Heeler
06-30-2008, 11:20 AM
And once Home comes out, you can display all your trophies in your house.

Sam_Adams
06-30-2008, 02:51 PM
Trophies, like Achievements for the 360

Video : http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/30/firmware-v240-walkthrough-part-2-trophies/


In game XMB, access your "dashboard" at any time on the PS3
Video: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/30/firmware-v240-walkthrough-part-2-trophies/

Coming soon.

Wow, so they have been fucking around not adding cool shit to the PS3's firmware and have been making useless shit like this instead?

How about they quit fucking around and add useful things instead of worrying about "trophies" that you get nothing for. I play games for the experience, not to "earn" stupid fucking trophies that get you nothing for unlocking them.

Just add the fucking XMB in-game, friend invite in-game and VIOP in-game.

Snake2k9
06-30-2008, 05:21 PM
But in-game XMB is here...on wednesday everyone will be downloading it,it will be mighty.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/29/firmware-v240-walkthrough-part-1-the-xmb/

Blue Heeler
06-30-2008, 05:35 PM
In-game XMB, in-game HD music, Google search bar, trophies...

Sam isn't seeing the forest for the trees. :action-sm

BlackNinja
06-30-2008, 07:35 PM
the trophies idea is fucking garbage. i dont mind achievement points, but sony is creative enough to come up with something innovative, the copycat shit is sad. and plus, the tropies arent earned retroactively. having said that, theres a nice little rumor out there that psn will start selling ps2 games
http://kotaku.com/397515/ps2-games-coming-to-psn
in game xmb is all that matters

Warfarer
06-30-2008, 08:50 PM
the trophies idea is fucking garbage. i dont mind achievement points, but sony is creative enough to come up with something innovative, the copycat shit is sad. and plus, the tropies arent earned retroactively. having said that, theres a nice little rumor out there that psn will start selling ps2 games
http://kotaku.com/397515/ps2-games-coming-to-psn
in game xmb is all that matters

I hope they put God of War 1 and 2 in psn so I can fuck around with them after Rachet and Clank
.

Polack
06-30-2008, 09:45 PM
What a fucking joke. Nobody wants the fucking trophy. On every messageboard people are screaming they want the in-game xmb. Why the fuck can't sony just work on that and stop fucking adding childish features.

BlackNinja
06-30-2008, 10:27 PM
in other sad unconfirmed rumor news, SOCOM might be delayed until oct 14 :(:(:(

LZMF1
06-30-2008, 10:33 PM
in other sad unconfirmed rumor news, SOCOM might be delayed until oct 14 :(:(:(
say it aint so!

Blue Heeler
06-30-2008, 11:05 PM
What a fucking joke. Nobody wants the fucking trophy. On every messageboard people are screaming they want the in-game xmb. Why the fuck can't sony just work on that and stop fucking adding childish features.

WHY ISN'T ANYONE SEEING THAT SONY IS ADDING IN-GAME XMB FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!! Seriously, trophies will be a nice side game, you never see 360 fans complaining about them, so why is this different for Sony? Not to mention that Sony took the achievement idea and made it better with HOME.

Hey, did you hear, in-game XMB will be in the 2.40 firmware... :icon_roll

BlackNinja
07-01-2008, 12:10 AM
WHY ISN'T ANYONE SEEING THAT SONY IS ADDING IN-GAME XMB FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!! Seriously, trophies will be a nice side game, you never see 360 fans complaining about them, so why is this different for Sony? Not to mention that Sony took the achievement idea and made it better with HOME.

Hey, did you hear, in-game XMB will be in the 2.40 firmware... :icon_roll

most people do acknowledge the in game xmb. the complaint is that this should have come sooner at the expense of all the other unnecessary stuff. sony has been the gaming innovator for the last 10 years. everything they have been doing this generation has been "me too."

do you remember the original ps3 controller? it looked like a boomerang, then xbox released their controller, then the wiimote was released, so sony tried to change their controller, last minute, to compete with the xbox's feel in your hand, with their original model, while adding motion detection to compete with the wii. they got caught with their pants down and had to remove the vibration due to patent issues.

trophies would be cool, but its already been done by microsoft. thats zero creativity, nothing unique or native to playstation. do you think activision is going to make 2 different sets of trophies achievements for the next Call of duty? or any third party developer that makes a ps3/360 game? plus, ps3 is already 2 years in the game, and still doesnt have a better library than xbox, AND trophies arent earned retroactively. adding things like this is taking away from what made them the leader the last 10 years. They have the superior technology on their side, and they need to start putting the resources to it

JMCC
07-01-2008, 12:11 AM
WHY ISN'T ANYONE SEEING THAT SONY IS ADDING IN-GAME XMB FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!! Seriously, trophies will be a nice side game, you never see 360 fans complaining about them, so why is this different for Sony? Not to mention that Sony took the achievement idea and made it better with HOME.

Hey, did you hear, in-game XMB will be in the 2.40 firmware... :icon_roll

I think because both links are for the trophies, here is the video about XMB..

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/29/firmware-v240-walkthrough-part-1-the-xmb/

fandango86
07-01-2008, 01:05 AM
I'm kind of looking forward to the trophies. Helps the replay value of games. Don't care if Microsoft thought of it first, I don't have a 360.

zoal
07-01-2008, 06:38 AM
As a 360 owner, and recent owner of a PS3 (80gb mgs4 bundle) i like the trophy system coming out, i just wish that more games were going to support it. Only a small handful of games will even have em on the 2nd, and popular games that are already out aren't even confirmed to support them via patch - like MGS4, and who knows when they would add it? I wanted to start my 2nd play through of MGS4 but i'd rather get some trophies for it if they are being patched in soon.

TrainableHoward
07-01-2008, 09:28 AM
No software update is more important than the development of more games. While the XMB and trophy system may be arguably nice perks for current PS3 owners, I dont think these features are going to sell more systems. If Sony is going to start to chip away at that 3 billion dollar deficit, they're going to need more exclusive software. The kind of software that sells the console, the way MGS4 has clearly done.
Hopefully at E3 we'll find out what's coming next from the teams that made God of War, Ico/Shadow of the Colossus, and since Ninja Theory sadly wont be making a Heavenly Sword sequel, it'd be nice to hear that they were working on some new original franchise.
Not to mention we're over due on a status report from the guys working on Infamous.

Blue Heeler
07-01-2008, 10:07 AM
The team responsible for the firmware updates and all that they entail is completely seperate from any game software development. So take that into consideration...updates features on the system isn't taking away from software devs.

It's not confirmed that trophies aren't retroactive, but it doesn't matter. All dev teams will be getting the opportunity to put the trophy system into their games, or not. For those that do get them patched in, I'll play them again just for the trophy. If not, no big deal.

Barely Legal
07-01-2008, 01:39 PM
It's not confirmed that trophies aren't retroactive, but it doesn't matter. All dev teams will be getting the opportunity to put the trophy system into their games, or not. For those that do get them patched in, I'll play them again just for the trophy. If not, no big deal.

I think it was confirmed that trophies are not retroactive to prevent lazy fuckers from downloading someone else's save file to collect their trophy. Everyone starts at fresh at zero when the trophy system goes live.

I'm kind of looking forward to the trophies. Helps the replay value of games. Don't care if Microsoft thought of it first, I don't have a 360.

I agree. Who cares who came up with the idea first? Sony will be using their trophy "achievement" system differently from how MS did theirs. If it makes games more replayable and makes games more fun, then who gives a shit where the idea came from? If anything, give MS credit for coming up with it.

MrBogey
07-02-2008, 12:36 AM
It's available now.

XMScott
07-02-2008, 12:38 AM
O.o

And i just turned my PS3 on to play Hot Shots.

JMCC
07-02-2008, 01:04 AM
Updating....

Barely Legal
07-02-2008, 01:36 AM
Just updated to 2.40 -- one thing I noticed is that the PSN friends list has been upgraded from 50 friends to 100.

XMScott
07-02-2008, 01:39 AM
I'll just toss this here

Resistance 2 BETA Sign Up site

http://www.getawarjob.com/

MrBogey
07-02-2008, 01:58 AM
I wish there was retroactive trophies. I unlocked many of the achievements on PAIN already.

Polack
07-02-2008, 02:47 AM
I just updated and the only thing I wanted and will use is the in-game xmb. everything else was just stupid.

fandango86
07-02-2008, 07:27 PM
i'm confused. i haven't updated to 2.40 but it says no update is available???

MrBogey
07-02-2008, 07:35 PM
Some people were getting bugs that required a bit more than button and settings being changed to get past so they yanked the new 2.40 update till they can devise a patch.

LetsDoThisLucas
07-02-2008, 10:01 PM
oh i see i was confused

Jimmy's Dignity
07-02-2008, 10:29 PM
I wish there was retroactive trophies. I unlocked many of the achievements on PAIN already.

How is PAIN? I've been tempted to download it, but have no idea what the whole deal is about

MrBogey
07-02-2008, 11:20 PM
It's a pretty nifty sandbox game. All you do is launch your character with a slingshot and try to do as much damage as possible. I like it but I can see how some wouldn't get into it.

Blue Heeler
07-03-2008, 08:47 AM
How is PAIN? I've been tempted to download it, but have no idea what the whole deal is about

PAIN is a lot of fun and worth the download price. There are plenty of mini games as well as a nice leaderboard to compare scores....lots of unlockables and achivements to go for.

Any game that lets you harm a mime is a good game.

Snake2k9
07-03-2008, 03:10 PM
Firmware 2.40 is still on my PS3. It's didn't break anything,I have the 40 gb.

Blue Heeler
07-04-2008, 12:13 AM
It's still not available....damnit

krunk
07-07-2008, 01:41 PM
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=192333

The huge in-game XMB PS3 update that was pulled from PSN last week following technical issues will be re-released for download by Wednesday, CVG has been told. According to customer support, firmware version 2.41, which should be clear of all errors, will out "midweek", although Sony is yet to make an official announcement to confirm that.

In case you missed it, Sony last week was forced to pull the hotly anticipated update (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=192154) after widespread reports of it breaking PS3 consoles.

The firmware is available to download from various website on the internet, but to be on the safe side you'd be best to wait for the update from Sony.

Vyce
07-07-2008, 03:28 PM
To those complaining about the "trophy" system not being innovative - who cares? I could not care less if Sony is just ripping off MS' achievement system, because it's just a wise decision to install it. The Xbox achievement system greatly increases the replay value of the Xbox games, and in the past it's actually influenced my decision as to whether to pick up a certain title that's available on both platforms. If Sony has created a similar achievement system, that's going to increase the replay value of its games and possibly even persuade me to buy more of its non-exclusive games.

zoal
07-07-2008, 03:56 PM
I fucking threw out the free download voucher for PAIN that came with my MGS4 bundle, annoyed about that.

Blue Heeler
07-07-2008, 04:09 PM
I fucking threw out the free download voucher for PAIN that came with my MGS4 bundle, annoyed about that.

Want me to send you the $10? :rolleyes:


NOT YOU!

I didn't get to update my firmware to 2.40....which I'm kinda glad I didn't. Thanks for the update...um, on the update.

zoal
07-07-2008, 05:15 PM
Want me to send you the $10? :rolleyes:


NOT YOU!

I didn't get to update my firmware to 2.40....which I'm kinda glad I didn't. Thanks for the update...um, on the update.

Its not that 10$ is a lot, but I had the god damn free voucher and lumped it in with the other shit i threw out after unpacking the system.

I did get Super Stardust HD and god damn that is fun.

LZMF1
07-08-2008, 11:49 AM
2.41 firmware is out. be downloading!

fandango86
07-08-2008, 12:56 PM
I did get Super Stardust HD and god damn that is fun.

Add me as a friend so you can stare at my high score that you'll never beat.:action-sm

Blue Heeler
07-08-2008, 01:06 PM
Cool, gonna grab 2.41 tonight before they remove it to fix something else...

Ted the Poster
07-09-2008, 05:06 PM
Cool, gonna grab 2.41 tonight before they remove it to fix something else...

Why? It'll just wreck something else!

Blue Heeler
07-09-2008, 10:54 PM
Why? It'll just wreck something else!

hehe, I updated, nothing is messed up...other than the no retro trophy thing...how hard would it have been to scan your game saves and get the trophies?

Yeah, I know, people will cheat with other people's game saves...but I could give a rat's ass about someone else's achievements.

TeenBungle
07-10-2008, 12:09 PM
I downloaded it last night but what games is this for? I have Tekken 5: Dark Ressurection, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, GTA 4, MGS4, COD4, and Orange Box. Any of these games have achievements.

Blue Heeler
07-10-2008, 01:10 PM
I downloaded it last night but what games is this for? I have Tekken 5: Dark Ressurection, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, GTA 4, MGS4, COD4, and Orange Box. Any of these games have achievements.

Not yet, or never.

I think the only games supported right now are PAIN and Super Stardust HD. Uncharted and few others are supposed to get it though.

All future games should have the trophies.

WoodenPlank
07-10-2008, 01:38 PM
It's a pretty nifty sandbox game. All you do is launch your character with a slingshot and try to do as much damage as possible. I like it but I can see how some wouldn't get into it.

Sounds like Porrasturvat (Stair Dismount) and Rekkaturvat (Truck Dismount) with a slingshot.

TeenBungle
07-10-2008, 02:57 PM
Not yet, or never.

I think the only games supported right now are PAIN and Super Stardust HD. Uncharted and few others are supposed to get it though.

All future games should have the trophies.

THanks once again Blue Heeler for answering all my geek questions. Much appreciated.

Jimmy's Dignity
07-10-2008, 03:14 PM
THanks once again Blue Heeler for answering all my geek questions. Much appreciated.

x2. Hopefully they'll have retroactive trophies...but if they don't at least I have PAIN now

zoal
07-10-2008, 04:12 PM
I heard Warhawk has trophies now too, so Pain, SSD:HD and Warhawk.

Vyce
07-10-2008, 04:22 PM
Not yet, or never.

I think the only games supported right now are PAIN and Super Stardust HD. Uncharted and few others are supposed to get it though.

All future games should have the trophies.

Do you have a list of what games are going to be getting the trophies (and when)?

Edit: Well, we know that neither Resistance or COD4 (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=165615) are getting them.

Blue Heeler
07-10-2008, 08:01 PM
* BUZZ! Quiz TV
* LittleBigPlanet
* MotorStorm Pacific Rift
* NBA 09
* PAIN**
* PixelJunk Eden
* Resistance 2
* SOCOM: Confrontation
* Super Stardust HD**
* Warhawk**

** Requires game update to install Trophies. (And requires you to play again to unlock them.)

Here's a list I found. Resistance 2 looks completely awesome, if you didn't buy the QORE subscription, at least grab July's episode.

Blue Heeler
07-10-2008, 08:04 PM
PS3 Fanboy lists the first two third-party games confirmed to feature Trophies: BioShock and Tiki Games' self-published PSN shooter, Novastrike.

Jimmy's Dignity
07-11-2008, 10:02 AM
Do you have a list of what games are going to be getting the trophies (and when)?

Edit: Well, we know that neither Resistance or COD4 (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=165615) are getting them.

Neither is Ratchet & Clank :(

I liked that game.

Blue Heeler
07-11-2008, 05:36 PM
"Currently, there are no plans to add Trophies to Resistance and Ratchet & Clank. Right now, our number one focus is finishing Resistance 2 and making it the best game possible

I think once they complete R2, they'll put Trophies in...if not, then just be assured that all future games will have it.