Generation Kill - HBO Sundays at 9pm EST

[XMScott]

Starting July 13th


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[Mindslayer]

Definitely looking forward to this. Ill watch anything by David Simon and Ed Burns.

[Budyzir]

Looks good. Besides, we're in that summer slump of programing right now so it should really pop.

[Aizazzle]

Looking forward to this. I'm already thinking my favorite is going to be the psycho kid who loves killing, and does it without remorse.

[Mindslayer]

I have the book and would like to read it before the series starts but unfortunately that aint gonna happen.

And I agree, it'll be nice to have some original programming to watch this summer. I havent watched anything besides documentaries since Lost ended. Im really looking forward to this, and Mad Men, too.

[mendozathejew]

lots of Ed Burns interviews out this week.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/arts/television/06wils.html?em&ex=1215489600&en=9fa71d8f4a4416b9&ei=5087%0A

http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/feature/2008/07/07/burns/

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121514162079128587.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

[kimothee]

When does Mad Men start? I really enjoyed that show.

I'm looking forward to GK too - HBO series are usually good (although they have been in a bit of a slump as of late).

[Budyzir]

Bump, first ep tonight @ 9:00 PM

[WoodenPlank]

Ok, Im a bit lagged because I paused it with the DVR for a bit. Good so far, and the guy doing a Nazi goose-step behind the Sergeant Major was fucking hilarious.

[Budyzir]

Ok, Im a bit lagged because I paused it with the DVR for a bit. Good so far, and the guy doing a Nazi goose-step behind the Sergeant Major was fucking hilarious.

I was laughing so hard I went into a coughing fit.

Great start, I'm looking forward to the rest.

[WoodenPlank]

The SGM is an annoying fucking prick. I even hate his voice.

[Mindslayer]

Thought it was a pretty solid first episode.

[WoodenPlank]

Thought it was a pretty solid first episode.

Agreed, and Im looking forward to the rest of it.

[Swamp CAve]

If you have on demand, check the behind the scenes stuff. They explain a little bit about each character and break down some of the equipment they used.

[mikeybot]

I hate that I watched it tonight. I don't have HBO at my house, so unless I want to dl it off bittorrent and watch it on my comp, I have to definitely go to my parents.

[thetick130]

I thought it was good. I hope it doesn't turn into some political garbage down the road though. It would be cool if this was a modern day Band of Brothers story, more personal and less political.

[WoodenPlank]

I thought it was good. I hope it doesn't turn into some political garbage down the road though. It would be cool if this was a modern day Band of Brothers story, more personal and less political.

Thats what Im hoping, too, but I get the feeling its going to be politicized. I havent read the book, though, so I dont know if the original book was like that or not.

[Large Marge]

I read the book, it doesn't get political. If it does, it will be from the perspective of the marines, they did have questions about the direction of the war towards the end, but it was never overwhelming.

done downloading it and burning it. gona watch it now. been waiting a long time for this.

[Swede Boy]

The Sgt Maj was the same guy that's the homo son of the chief on rescue me, so fun to occasionally see an actor do the polar opposite roll, pretty solid 1st ep, and love how hbo recycles actors, took a few minutes to place beecher.

[XMScott]

I hope it doest turn into that movie about Marines who saw no action.

A good first episode. Some very funny lines and some that seemed chessy. Beacher (from OZ) getting his nuts caught in the chemical suit was pretty fucking funny.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Ok, Im a bit lagged because I paused it with the DVR for a bit. Good so far, and the guy doing a Nazi goose-step behind the Sergeant Major was fucking hilarious.oh my lord I was fucking howling with laughter there. I loved that

I thought it was good. I hope it doesn't turn into some political garbage down the road though. It would be cool if this was a modern day Band of Brothers story, more personal and less political.x 20 gabillion

I hope it doest turn into that movie about Marines who saw no action.fucking hated Jarhead. That movie sucked and when the guy came in on R&F he was an utter bore

[Stormrider666]

I agree with what everybody else has said about the first episode. Another HBO series has given me characther to root for. That characther would be Godfather. Even though I don't see the series getting overwhelmingly political, I'm interested to see how certain pundits on the right are going to react to it.


On a side note, after watching the ads for HBO's new series Trublood, I have mixed feelings about it. I could see it being one of those shows that I should watch and like. At the same time, it could wind up being a show I hate with a passion and have no interest in watching.

[Aizazzle]

Watched it last night, and thoroughly enjoyed it. I laffed hard at the letter from little Suzie, and the response she gets. The guy who read the response might be my favorite character followed by The Godfather. His line about being one of the lucky ones was pretty funny.

Definitely going to follow this one.

[Budyzir]

The whole speech about the war being over a lack pussy was great.

[Large Marge]

Do they see action? one word answer.
Yes

I watched the first 20mins, I think it follows the book really well, it translates the feel of the book well. I think that has a lot to do with Evan Wright working on set.

Ziggy from the wire season 2 is my favorite character so far. He is the skinny guy who reads the little girl's letter.

To anyone who has read the book... who is 'captain america'? I think it might be the hard ass sgt major.

As for the political stuff... It will get a little political, but one side of the argument shouldn't ever be dominant, I doubt the writers would do that.

[Budyzir]

To anyone who has read the book... who is 'captain america'? I think it might be the hard ass sgt major.

Capt America is the guy who was taping up the windows of his Hum V to hid the glow of his laptop ("tactical" :haha7:) and wound up missing a turn on the road.

He reminds me of a asshole division officer I once had. The ass was a A6 pilot who got caught trying to swap his wife's urine with his own during a urinalysis test. A Navy attack pilot and he got booted out for cocaine. ASS!

[distortion9]

Really dug the first episode...laughed REALLY HARD at the goose stepping.

[ChrisH]

I DVR'd it from last night and am watching it now. About 36 minutes in, when they are waiting in the humvees, just as the interpeter is coming out with his shotgun, you hear on the radio (fairly loudly) "Sir, we are going to have to Linger Longer."

If anyone has HBO In Demand, check it out.

[Mindslayer]

Wow, cant believe the Sgt Maj. was the Chief's gay son on Rescue Me. I knew he was familiar but I just couldnt place him. Heh, at least the guy doesnt have to worry about being typecast.

As far as the series becoming politicized, I havent read the book (yet) but from the reviews Ive read it doesnt go down that road.

[Large Marge]

After watching the first episode fully, I'd say it does seem a little political, but that is the territory with this show. They want to capture the all Marines view points but only have a short period of time so its a tough thing to pull off.

As for general comments... There were a few times while watching when i asked myself why are they doing this? who put this in the show? then they immediately redeem themselves in the next scene. For example when the show reyes' naked ass in the tent and talk about the gay sex business, I thought ' why do marine movies always have to have gay shit in them' this was completely erased when you see Reyes gear up ( gas mask too) and do sprints around the entire camp by himself.

Also, I hope they show more context of the war in the next ep. they didn't even mention shock and awe in this one.

[Stormrider666]

After watching the first episode fully, I'd say it does seem a little political, but that is the territory with this show. They want to capture the all Marines view points but only have a short period of time so its a tough thing to pull off.

As for general comments... There were a few times while watching when i asked myself why are they doing this? who put this in the show? then they immediately redeem themselves in the next scene. For example when the show reyes' naked ass in the tent and talk about the gay sex business, I thought ' why do marine movies always have to have gay shit in them' this was completely erased when you see Reyes gear up ( gas mask too) and do sprints around the entire camp by himself.

Also, I hope they show more context of the war in the next ep. they didn't even mention shock and awe in this one.

I don't know for some reason I can't picture Marines, or any member of the armed forces, using the term "shock and awe". It just sound likes some Pentagon created term to be used for press releases.

[Large Marge]

Right, I understand they probably wouldn't use the term, but they seemed to skip over that whole aspect of the war entirely . It makes sense, not to mention it at all because the marines didn't have a lot of knowledge about it at the time, they were listening to the bbc to get the news.

[Plunkies]

Capt America is the guy who was taping up the windows of his Hum V to hid the glow of his laptop ("tactical" :haha7:) and wound up missing a turn on the road.

No that's a different guy. Cpt America is the cowardly guy. "They're sending us alone against Iraqi armor?! People are gonna die because of this!!" "God speed! God fucking speed to you!"

I'm liking this show. The Sgt Maj is hysterical. Po-lice that Moose-stash!

[Large Marge]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4897354357269273638&q=Generation+Kill&ei=IX9-SNKuHoamrwLa9JSmDg&hl=en

Full ep, get it while you can.

[Cromwell]

I finally got a chance to watch my DVR of the first episode last night.

I pretty much agree with most of what has been written here in this thread already.

One question - who's the guy they keep talking about - who they are wondering if he is dead or not?

I have to say I was a little disappointed that there weren't any actual combat scenes, though. Yeah, I know -I have to be patient and let the characters develop. I did like the fact that they showed the guys training martial arts and knife fighting (and self-defense) in the camp. That seemed pretty realistic to me.

[Mindslayer]

Not sure about a guy, but I know that somebody was fucking with them and saying that Jennifer Lopez was killed.

[blackout-]

yea, J.Lo is dead but they gotta keep it off the media or the troop moral would be destroyed. ha.

[WoodenPlank]

Episode 2 tonight, and now I get to watch it in HD. Also, I saw an ad on HBOHD just a moment ago that said theyre showing the first 3 episodes back to back on July 29th, so if anyone missed the first one it will be a chance to catch up.

[Three Hole Puncher]

Alright... for the last fucking time...

Judges DO NOT offer you a choice between jail and the Marine Corps... at least they haven't for the last half a century. Damn... that bullshit pisses me off.

The Marine Corps does not want jailbird scum any more than the rest of society wants them. They've got enough trouble turning Joe Meatball into a Marine... they certainly don't need the aggravation of rehabilitating and redeeming criminal scum.

I'm really trying to like this show, but if they keep sticking to the stereotypical bullshit like this "Jail or service" crap... and if one more of these fuckers calls another Marine, "bra"... I swear I'm fucking bailing.

[EvilMonkey71]

Alright... for the last fucking time...

Judges DO NOT offer you a choice between jail and the Marine Corps... at least they haven't for the last half a century. Damn... that bullshit pisses me off.

The Marine Corps does not want jailbird scum any more than the rest of society wants them. They've got enough trouble turning Joe Meatball into a Marine... they certainly don't need the aggravation of rehabilitating and redeeming criminal scum.

I'm really trying to like this show, but if they keep sticking to the stereotypical bullshit like this "Jail or service" crap... and if one more of these fuckers calls another Marine, "bra"... I swear I'm fucking bailing.

Did you read the book? They're definitely "Hollywooding" it up a bit. For example, I never got the impression that Person (Colbert's Humvee driver/RTO) was the charismatic witty guy he is on the HBO series. He comes off as more of a hick jacked up on Ripped Fuel in the book.

[Mindslayer]

I have the book but wasnt able to read it before the mini. I wouldve liked to, though.

[Large Marge]

In the book, Person does have a lot of the same ideas that are put into the show, the grammar tests for entry into the service, the whole thing about war being about lack of pussy, they seem to be alittle more spread out in the book from what i remember. But so far I'm very impressed with the transition.

As for the "broa", to the shows defense it seems like only one character is using it, the driver in espera's or garza's humvee. I think it was thrown in there to develop that character as a so-cal surfer kid.

and the jail or service thing was also in the book, so it wasn't hbo.

[Arc Lite]

Just caught up on the first two. Very good and looking forward to the rest.

I admire the fuck out of those guys.

[Aizazzle]

Fucking Tromoli rules, and is awesome, too bad they had to fucking roone his camel killing shit with having him accidentally shoot the kid.

The Godfather is a very complicated charatcer, and I'm enjoying the fuck out of him.

Another good episode from Generation Kill, but it would be nice if they saw some combat. It looks like we might see it in the next episode.

[Mindslayer]

Im not sure how I feel about Godfather. One moment he seems like an incompetent like the rest of the high command, preoccupied with accolades and bullshit objectives, yet he was sympathetic to the Marines who brought the dying Iraqi kid to him (but only after they all pretty much left him with no choice).

Anyway, if tonight's episode was an even slightly realistic example of how incompetent the chain of command is over there then its no wonder its been such a clusterfuck since day one.

Also, Im loving Iceman and the young Lt (not sure of his name, though).

[XMScott]

Anyway, if tonight's episode was an even slightly realistic example of how incompetent the chain of command is over there then its no wonder its been such a clusterfuck since day one.



QFT

Some of this show makes me just angry.

[kimothee]

Im not sure how I feel about Godfather. One moment he seems like an incompetent like the rest of the high command, preoccupied with accolades and bullshit objectives, yet he was sympathetic to the Marines who brought the dying Iraqi kid to him (but only after they all pretty much left him with no choice).



X2...I was ready to scream but then when the Godfather went through the whole explanation, it made sense.

Yeah....I am amazed at the clusterfuck myself. I'm curious as to if the soldiers vs the 'private contractor' issue will be brought up at all.

[WoodenPlank]

X2...I was ready to scream but then when the Godfather went through the whole explanation, it made sense.

Yeah....I am amazed at the clusterfuck myself. I'm curious as to if the soldiers vs the 'private contractor' issue will be brought up at all.

That was probably later in the war than the book and miniseries go. If I remember right, GK is really just the first week or two of the war.
The situation with getting the kid to a hospital was a rough one. I remember the night that they mentioned, where 30+ Apache helicopters got turned back by Iraqi AA. I think that was the night that the one crew was shot down and captured - I remember seeing them on Letterman after they were rescued. That would have been a tough call no matter what, ESPECIALLY in broad daylight.
The officer that tried to call down a useless artillery strike deserved to be relieved on the spot. Calling a fire mission on NOTHING, within 200m of his own men....fucking idiot.

[Stormrider666]

Im not sure how I feel about Godfather. One moment he seems like an incompetent like the rest of the high command, preoccupied with accolades and bullshit objectives, yet he was sympathetic to the Marines who brought the dying Iraqi kid to him (but only after they all pretty much left him with no choice).

Anyway, if tonight's episode was an even slightly realistic example of how incompetent the chain of command is over there then its no wonder its been such a clusterfuck since day one.

Also, Im loving Iceman and the young Lt (not sure of his name, though).

Just watched last night's episode (it looks fucking sweet in HD) and I have the same feelings about Godfather.

The one characther, I definitely can't stand, is the one that is walking around collecting shit.

I'm in total agreement about the clusterfuck, however I'm not suprised by it. Thank you Donald Rumsfeld.

[Plunkies]

Between Captain America, Encino Man, Sixta, and the gunney, there sure are a lot of fucking retards running things. And of course the Alpha commander, Brad, and Lt Fick are the ones getting in trouble for shit. Seems like whenever there's a real enemy to shoot at they have overly restrictive ROEs and when there's no enemy they're cleared to fire on anything that moves. Frustrating stuff.

[Large Marge]

The reason why the officers above the LTs are retarded is because they typically would never go into the field with the recon marines. They would stay on the carrier or a base, pretty far away from combat. The recon platoons only had ranks of LT and down, there was no use for a whole headquarters company in the field of combat. But the way it was explained in the book was that all of the headquarters guys like captain america finally got a chance to see combat.

This series makes it seem that all officers are retards, but it actually is just the way recon is set up that makes it that way.

[domelogic]

large you may be right but if this is kind of accurate where does common sense set in? i mean in one instance a guy is yelling at a marine for losing a helmut paid for by taxpayers but then lets a truck sit with tons of valuable stuff. if this stuff really happens every marine should be ashamed to have to follow rules or idiots

great show so far

[Large Marge]

yeah its hard to see what kind of common sense these guys have. Chain of command may have some effect on common sense.

you have to remember the way this war was planned by the civilians at the pentagon(you know who), it was 1939 Poland style, in terms of how quick the job was supposed to completed. That meant leave 300 surrendered iraqis, and abandon a disabled supply truck because both slowed down the mission. the reasoning for both were that secondary US forces would scoop them up, and the potential negative outcomes were never considered.

Spoiler is if you aren't caught up with ep 3.

However, in this last episode they really score a few points for the higher-ups. gunny wynn (not an officer) and godfather showed likable qualities. the godfather one is pretty obvious, so I'll mention the one with wynn because you might not have picked up on it.

In the first scene gunny wynn comes up to colbert and asks about his combat stress, colbert tells him he needs supplies, Wynn wipes his faces and walks away without replying, the camera stays with him and it looks like he realizes that he is fucking up big time with the supply issues. I know it seems like i could be looking into this a little too much but i think the writers were trying to show this.

Captain Petterson and Lt Fick both are pretty great officers. Petterson is the one who looks just like encinoman.

How good was that scene when they were going full speed at the airport?
As the great warrior poet I-cube once said, "If the day does not require an AK, it is good.- Person

I got a general question about ep 3. How did Colbert know the orders were free fire when attacking the airport? The Cpt Petterson said he woudn't pass the word down that the ROE changed. Did Colbert give the orders by himself?

[Plunkies]

Patterson is captain of Alpha company. Encino Man is captain of Bravo which is Fick and Colbert's company. Bravo knew, Alpha didn't.

[Mindslayer]

What was also especially telling was when Godfather was discussing the field situation to the group of Marines who brought it in the dying kid and he basically told them that if it was them that were shot in that very spot they could very easily have died from improper medical care, as well, since the chances of being med-evaced out where slim to none.

Fuckin scary.

[domelogic]

large, it was made to seem like the only person who heard it was open season was patterson but when told his crew, he was listening to the radio feed. so it seemed like anyone with that headset would have heard them say shoot anyone

what is scary is people like godfather so wanting to be in the good graces of his boss that he will take chances and risks for acknowledgement. dont worry about your props, just do the job the right way. although he is human by helping the kid

and yes it is scary to think we have that little regard for our own troops, i know the mission comes first but lets think that mission out a little better

[Mindslayer]

Especially since its all volunteer, too. Im sure there arent exactly lines out the enlistment office doors, especially after its become more of a debacle in Iraq over the past few years.

[Sevenyars]

So did they find the dead marine or not?

[chumpy]

I'm sure there are some of you baggers that were there then or know people who were. I just wanna know, was it that fucked up?

[WoodenPlank]

I'm sure there are some of you baggers that were there then or know people who were. I just wanna know, was it that fucked up?

I dont know any marines that were there, but its not that surprising. Especially the idiot officer that wanted to call down danger close artillery 200m from his own men - on nothing.

[Mindslayer]

Missed it this week but I have it DVRed, but wont be able to watch it until I get back from Vegas on Sunday. Ill probably watch it back to back with the new one.

[kimothee]

Fell asleep in the last 15 mins of this week's ep - watched it last night - what is astounding me are the "official reports" of what happened on the missions vs. the actual events.

Must watch the end tonight. Also need to watch this week's Mad Men (DVR'ed). Catching up on Sunday shows due to falling asleep very early on Sunday recovering from the Virus show.

[jimmyslostchin]

As for general comments... There were a few times while watching when i asked myself why are they doing this? who put this in the show? then they immediately redeem themselves in the next scene. For example when the show reyes' naked ass in the tent and talk about the gay sex business, I thought ' why do marine movies always have to have gay shit in them' this was completely erased when you see Reyes gear up ( gas mask too) and do sprints around the entire camp by himself.

You've clearly never been in the field with a grunt unit. Army, Marines, it doesn't matter. Get enough bored infantrymen in the field and it will be a mere matter of minutes before the homo references start flying and an impromptu game of "gay or funny" breaks out. In my company, especially during our deployment, we had one Spc. who you'd swear was actually assigned to the position of "gay but funny if he's not doing it to you" by someone with a field grade rank.

Ahhhhh good times. :secretagent: :action-sm :arrrh:

[25133WhooOoAH]

Starting the series tonight on Demand...

[Sevenyars]

Did they find the crucified marine?

[jimmyslostchin]

Did they find the crucified marine?

Not by the end of the last episode. It ended with Alpha Company pulling out and rejoining the rest of the battalion.

[Arc Lite]

Great show. Brad the Iceman's my favorite character so far.

OT I know, but loffed when I IMDB'd him and saw the dude playing Iceman was in Zoolander. He's Meekus.

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[Sprite]

I just finished episode 2, and I'm going to watch 3 and 4. Fuck sleep - this show rules. I skimmed over posts so as not to read any spoilers. :icon_wink

[WoodenPlank]

Not by the end of the last episode. It ended with Alpha Company pulling out and rejoining the rest of the battalion.

At the very end they asked if the other guys had found him, and the look on their faces implied they had just come out of Hell itself. SOmethign was going on there...

[Arc Lite]

At the very end they asked if the other guys had found him, and the look on their faces implied they had just come out of Hell itself. SOmethign was going on there...

I got the impression it was more upper echelon bullshit rather than hell or some kinds of atrocity.

[TreeFortRichard]

ripped fuel humvee driver, James Ransone, Totally reminds me of a 1990's henry rollins...

[WoodenPlank]

I got the impression it was more upper echelon bullshit rather than hell or some kinds of atrocity.

All I remember for sure was thinking "Oh, shit, that cant be good". I need to go back and watch it again.

Oh, and I have to say, GK looks fucking awesome in 1080i...now if only Time Warner would start offering 1080p content...

[jimmyslostchin]

I got the impression it was more upper echelon bullshit rather than hell or some kinds of atrocity.

Exactly, they were pissed off that they were told to roll out and rejoin the rest of the batallion before they could even really try to find the missing Marine. There was no hell and back in that episode. The city was liberated before they even rolled in.

[Stormrider666]

After watching last night's episode, not only do you sense the pride the Marines had for what they accompolished in Afghanistan, but how well that war was organized and ran. I also think last night's episode was the most complexed with all the different issues that were taking place in it. The combat scenes were pretty cool though.

Although it was funny and sad, that it took that one soldier to tell the officer what was basic common sense, on how to get the humvee's wheel unstuck.

[Budyzir]

Yup, those night vision combat scenes were intense.

[WoodenPlank]

Yup, those night vision combat scenes were intense.

Its a plastic bag on a bush...


I love the recurring theme of only Iceman can tell what the hell is going on at night - first the "tanks" ( :haha7: ) then the bagged bush...

[Arc Lite]

Another solid episode. Was watching the credits and caught this "blurb" I know some of you have read the book, but here's a link to the Rolling Stone article that the book was based on: The Killer Elite.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5938873/the_killer_elite/

[jimmyslostchin]

Another solid episode. Was watching the credits and caught this "blurb" I know some of you have read the book, but here's a link to the Rolling Stone article that the book was based on: The Killer Elite.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5938873/the_killer_elite/

Very nice! I had read the book but never the original article. Good find!

[Cromwell]

Yeah, thanks.

The Rolling Stone writer has turned out to be a pretty good character on the show.

[Stormrider666]

Yeah, thanks.

The Rolling Stone writer has turned out to be a pretty good character on the show.


QFT.

Although I don't know what he was thinking, when he a gave a picture of his girlfriend to the Marines. I'm wondering if not only will he get it back, but will he want it back given what condition it will be in.

[enduser]

Reading the rolling stone article at work now. Its like 53 pages copied to MSWord.
I am giving the appearance of being hard at work. :D

[Arc Lite]

I want to read the article, but since I haven't read the book I don't want to spoil the remaining two episodes. It may not give anything away, but I don't want to take any chances. So I think I'm going to hold off until the series is over.

Question about the radio chatter before and after each episode... Is that shit real from like field recordings?

[Budyzir]

Reading the rolling stone article at work now. Its like 53 pages copied to MSWord.
I am giving the appearance of being hard at work. :D

I used to the same thing! :haha7::haha7::haha7:

It works brilliantly.

[jimmyslostchin]

I want to read the article, but since I haven't read the book I don't want to spoil the remaining two episodes. It may not give anything away, but I don't want to take any chances. So I think I'm going to hold off until the series is over.

Question about the radio chatter before and after each episode... Is that shit real from like field recordings?

It has an authentic sound to it, but at the same time a lot of it doesn't have any stress or volume to it beyond normal conversational tone, so it's hard to tell. It very well could be, or it could be transcriptions of radio calls recreated.

[Mindslayer]

I also want to read the Rolling Stone article but like the other guy who posted I havent read the book yet and dont want to be spoiled. Ill wait on it, even though it'll be a while until I read the book.
Yea, I was wondering about the radio calls, too. They sound pretty authentic to me, but what the fuck do I know. But if they were real, would they even be allowed to use them ?

Anyway, finally caught up on the last two episodes. Great shit, and it sucks that there are only two eps. left.

[Plunkies]

It has an authentic sound to it, but at the same time a lot of it doesn't have any stress or volume to it beyond normal conversational tone, so it's hard to tell. It very well could be, or it could be transcriptions of radio calls recreated.

Um, don't you guys hear the actors in them? I heard Ray in the second one I think, and I remember hearing Godfather and Colbert too. The officer that got Encino Man to push the truck was in the last one.

[jimmyslostchin]

Um, don't you guys hear the actors in them? I heard Ray in the second one I think, and I remember hearing Godfather and Colbert too. The officer that got Encino Man to push the truck was in the last one.

In all fairness no, I didn't recognize the actors voices. Something to look for tomorrow night. After I thought about it though, there's almost no way they would be using real calls simply because as far as I know those kinds of transmissions aren't recorded. The equipment needed would be one more thing that had to be carried, powered up, and manned. There's kind of some bigger things to worry about when beginning an invasion.

Although that's just my .02 having never served in a combat zone.

[Mindslayer]

Who's the Marine who the guys refer to as Casey Kasem ?

[jimmyslostchin]

Who's the Marine who the guys refer to as Casey Kasem ?

He's one of the Gunnery Sergeants, I forget his real name. In the last episode he's the Gunny that walks up on the LT and CO while they're talking and gets his ass chewed by the LT for telling junior enlisted men that the LT was a coward.

[Mindslayer]

Ah, ok, thanks.

[Stormrider666]

After last night's episode, I have decided I will definitely read the book. One of the reasons why, is that I have to see if Captain America and some of the other officers are really that fucked up. Once again, another good but complex episode and I'm really looking foward to the finale.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I'm finally playing catch-up...I had several episodes sitting on the DVR that I just hadn't gotten to watching. Sucks that this is almost over

[WOWmagnet]

I love it but having read the book twice, they definately Hollywooded it up. Prolly mostly for time reasons.

Love/hate the Godfather, "because of this dying motherfucker and his dead friends we're eight hours behind."

[Snake2k9]

Maybe someone said this earlier or something but Rudy Reyes plays himself on the show. I just found it interesting he's playing himself.

[WoodenPlank]

When they were discussing the Colonel being relieved - why did they mention (twice, even) that they had relieved him of the ammunition for his sidearm? Was there concern he would kill himself or something, or is it just another funky Marine thing?

[jimmyslostchin]

When they were discussing the Colonel being relieved - why did they mention (twice, even) that they had relieved him of the ammunition for his sidearm? Was there concern he would kill himself or something, or is it just another funky Marine thing?

They're basically saying they neutered him, totally removed him from any combat situation. If you're in a combat arm of the service, and your weapon/ammo gets taken away, you royally fucked up.

[WOWmagnet]

Maybe someone said this earlier or something but Rudy Reyes plays himself on the show. I just found it interesting he's playing himself.

Isn't Sgt. Eric Kocher also playing himself?

[jimmyslostchin]

Isn't Sgt. Eric Kocher also playing himself?

Not unless he changed his real name to Owain Yeoman. I believe the actual Sgt Kocher was an advisor to the show though.

[WOWmagnet]

Not unless he changed his real name to Owain Yeoman. I believe the actual Sgt Kocher was an advisor to the show though.

My bad but he did make a cameo appearance in 2 eps so far. I'll find out the char and post back.

[Mindslayer]

Yea, I think a few of the actual Marines were involved in training the actors for the physicality of their roles.

Also, I was just watching the fifth season of The Wire on DVD, and one of the detectives is seen reading Generation Kill. Its kind of blink and you'll miss it, but it was still pretty cool.

[WOWmagnet]

Sgt Eric kocher plays not himself but Gunnery Sgt. Rich Barrett! (6 episodes, 2008).

There are pictures of him in the book so you can spot him in-show.



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0995832/

[Snake2k9]

Here's a short video of Eric naming Captain America and giving a little insight on the show.

http://www.bigthink.com/the-world/the-middle-east/12132

[Mindslayer]

Great finale. Ill be sad to this miniseries go, especially since we know what an even bigger clusterfuck things became after the invasion of Baghdad. It wouldve been interesting to follow these guys further on down the road if possible.

Like I said, great miniseries, but then, I expected nothing less from David Simon and Ed Burns.

[Stormrider666]

Great finale. Ill be sad to this miniseries go, especially since we know what an even bigger clusterfuck things became after the invasion of Baghdad. It wouldve been interesting to follow these guys further on down the road if possible.

Like I said, great miniseries, but then, I expected nothing less from David Simon and Ed Burns.

Agreed. I don't mean to steal a bit from Sam, but the foreshadowing of the things to come, was done really well in the episode. Even though I understood what Godfather was saying, I still despise Captain America. I screamed "You Fucking Asshole" to the television, when his short cut failed.

The last 25 minutes focusing on the various emotions of all the Marines, was definitely one of the most powerful moments of the series.

I'm hoping that this series gets David Simon and Ed Burns' Emmy nominations.

[TaboriHK]

Its a plastic bag on a bush...


I love the recurring theme of only Iceman can tell what the hell is going on at night - first the "tanks" ( :haha7: ) then the bagged bush...

I was amazed at his ability to distinguish shit. They show you exactly what he sees and 99% of the time I'm like, "...really?"

[Budyzir]

Here's a short video of Eric naming Captain America and giving a little insight on the show.

http://www.bigthink.com/the-world/the-middle-east/12132

Dude, great find! And, Big Think looks like a great website, I've bookmarked it.

[patbattlefield]

Here's a short video of Eric naming Captain America and giving a little insight on the show.

http://www.bigthink.com/the-world/the-middle-east/12132

thanks man. thats pretty damn cool.

[Mindslayer]

Yes, thanks for that, dude. Great stuff there.

[Mindslayer]

Sorry to double post, but I found info on the DVD release :

http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Generation-Kill-DVDs-Planned/10410

[domelogic]

i got so into this show i forgot it was a mini series. i kept watching the episode saying this looks like a season finale, yet i was hoping there were many more episodes

as fucked up as things were, they were still able to make the show compelling and very real looking

[Mindslayer]

Thats one of Simon and Burns' trademarks. Realism is what they do best.

[TaboriHK]

I remember hearing somewhere that

Ray dies in the final episode

so I spent the whole last episode trying to prepare myself to see that happen. So when it didn't, it was a pleasant surprise. My only problem I had with the show has to do directly with its greatest strength; I am so fascinated by the narratives David Simon and company are able to come up with that I just want to see more, and the fact that it's a miniseries really bums me out. Then again, I could have gone with another 50 seasons of The Wire, but this one is especially noticeable.

[Mindslayer]

I remember seeing the real Ray at the premiere with the actor who played him. They showed bits and pieces of it a while back on HBO.

[Swamp CAve]

http://oldarchive.godspy.com/reviews/Into-Iraq-With-Generation-Kill-An-Interview-with-Evan-Wright-by-Angelo-Matera.cfm.html

interview with Evan Wright about the book..