UFC 86 watching thread

[Capt.Caveman]

I figured I'd get it started early. Time for my incessant posting (hi crom:action-sm)

[askewcore]

I am pumped for this card. I like Forrest but Rampage has been my guy for years so I gotta root for him. Plus, I suspect he is gonna whoop Forrest.

[Capt.Caveman]

I am pumped for this card. I like Forrest but Rampage has been my guy for years so I gotta root for him. Plus, I suspect he is gonna whoop Forrest.

I'm thinking rampage by tko in the 3rd

[Papagolash]

I'll be watching via paltalk.

[sniper]

This is a great card for the first UFC PPV on my new 50" :D
I've been so torn on the main event. I love Griffin and want him to win, but I just can't get the Jardine KO out of my head. Looking forward to a great fight either way
My Picks:
Almeida
Stevenson
Koscheck (unfortunately)
T.Griffin
Gonzaga

[Capt.Caveman]

My Picks

Rampage
koscheck
Griffin
Almedia
Stevenson
Hill
Guillard
Gurgel
Gonzaga

watching on T V U

[Fuck Crosby]

Anyone know of any "secret" websites showing this?

[commish13]

I just got a call from my friend, so now I get to see the show live and for free at his house.

I hope Forrest fucks Rampage up.

Not that I don't like Rampage, but Griffin is the guy who got me into MMA.

[askewcore]

Anyone know of any "secret" websites showing this?

sopcast:
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/24267
or
http://www.justin.tv/ufclive

[Fuck Crosby]

why thank you.

[Steam]

Even though I rooted for Bonner in the first fight, I like Griffin. Not sure who I want to win tonight though. Overall I think that Rampage is better and would give us better fights and matchups in the long run so I'll root for him but if Griffin wins I won't be upset.

I also hope that Koscheck gets choked out again. I hate that faggot.

[Capt.Caveman]

I also hope that Koscheck gets choked out again. I hate that faggot.

not a big chance of that happening. I like koscheck. He's a dick but not like tito. he's not arrogant he's just an asshole

[Capt.Caveman]

tvu player channel 61886

[Capt.Caveman]

Prelim results


JUSTIN BUCHHOLZ VS. COREY HILL

ROUND 1 - Hill starts quickly, and Buchholz is immediately on defense. Hill trips Buchholz, but the fighters are quickly back on their feet. Buchholz throws several kicks. Buchholz pulls guard, but the fighters are again up quickly. A clinch, and Hill scores with knees. Buchholz battles back, but Hill tosses him to the mat. The round ends, and MMAjunkie.com gives it Hill, 10-9.

ROUND 2 - Hill opens up aggressively again, landing knees and punches. Buchholz is bleeding. Buchholz battles back, and stuns Hill with a kick. Hill surprisingly takes Buchholz down, and moves quickly to side control. Buchholz is taking several elbows, but escapes and moves to Hill's back. Buchholz locks in the choke, and Hill is forced to tap. Justin Buchholz def. Corey Hill via submission (rear naked choke) -- Round 2, 3:57.

MELVIN GUILLARD VS. DENNIS SIVER

ROUND 1 - Guillard moves forward and immediately drops Siver with a right. Gullard pounces, but Siver locks in an arm bar. Gullard escapes, stands, and pushes forward again. Siver is dropped again, and Guillard follows up with several hard punches and referee Herb Dean steps in. Melvin Guillard def. Dennis Siver via KO (punches) -- Round 1, 0:36.

JORGE GURGEL VS. COLE MILLER

ROUND 1 - Gurgel pushes forward with several punches and kicks. Gurgel focuses on Miller's legs, and lands several solid kicks. Miller battles back with a few punches. Gurgel again pushes forward, and Miller counters. Several back and forth exchanges as the round comes to a close. MMAjunkie.com scores the round 10-9 in favor of Gurgel.

ROUND 2 - Several exchanges again early in the round. Miller takes the fight to the ground, and Gurgel begins working from the bottom. Miller brings down several solid blows, and Gurgel is hurt. Miller works for a submission of his own, but Gurgel escapes and the round comes to an end.

ROUND 3 - Gurgel again pushes forward with strikes, and eventually scores a takedown. The fighters scramble back up, but Gurgel scores another takedown. Quickly back up again. Gurgel again lands sold strikes and scores another takedown. Miller tries for a triangle, and Gurgel taps as time nearly expires. Cole Miller def. Jorge Gurgel via submission (triangle choke) -- Round 3, 4:48.


Gonzaga still has to fight and then the live card. I can't fuckin believe Gurgel tapped!!! I can see him going out but not tapping

[Capt.Caveman]

well that was quick

GABRIEL GONZAGA VS. JUSTIN MCCULLY

ROUND 1 - The fighters exchange briefly, McCully is dropped with a kick. Gonzaga starts in guard, but tansitions quickly to the mount. Gonzaga quickly grabs a kimura, and forces the tap. Gabriel Gonzaga def. Justin McCully via submission (kimura) -- Round 1, 1:57.

[Capt.Caveman]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....It's about to start

[N.Y. Johnny]

here we go!

[Cromwell]

I figured I'd get it started early. Time for my incessant posting (hi crom:action-sm)

Oh - Hi Caveman :icon_mrgr

My tvu is frozen (video) audio is fine.

Anybody else having this problem?

[Capt.Caveman]

Oh - Hi Caveman :icon_mrgr

My tvu is frozen (video) audio is fine.

Anybody else having this problem?

mine's good sir reboot the tvu sometimes that works

[Capt.Caveman]

Griffin vs Auriellio

I think Griffn is gonna hold him down and pound him. This one may be boring

[Cromwell]

mine's good sir reboot the tvu sometimes that works

Yeah - that worked.

I'm psyched for some MMA! :icon_cool

[Capt.Caveman]

His shirt said Jesus doesn't tap.....how could he with his hands nailed down..

[Capt.Caveman]

Oh dear Tyson is a MMA HACK

[Capt.Caveman]

these fans are pissing me off

[b21bballer]

I'm guessing Yimmy is there.

[Capt.Caveman]

griffin 10-9

[Cromwell]

Jaime Pressley - hot. :)

[Capt.Caveman]

yimmy and bobby were just on camera!!!!!!

[Steam]

yimmy and bobby were just on camera!!!!!!

Blowing each other?

I should be watching this. I suck.

[Capt.Caveman]

griffin 2-0

[Cromwell]

Chris Angel and Sully from Godsmack are there :)

[Steam]

I don't know but for some reason I think that Penn would own Tyson Griffin.

[Capt.Caveman]

griffin 30-27

[Cromwell]

I don't know but for some reason I think that Penn would own Tyson Griffin.

Lets see it already.

That is - unless BJ really is going to fight GSP. :icon_wink

[Capt.Caveman]

anyone else notice that all the guys in AMERICAN top team are brazilian?

[Fuck Crosby]

Was that Randy Jackson

[Capt.Caveman]

Lets see it already.

That is - unless BJ really is going to fight GSP. :icon_wink

I read that after koschek wins tonite he's gonna drop to 155 to fight penn. I posted the link in the general mma thread

[Capt.Caveman]

Was that Randy Jackson

no Quinton:action-sm

[Steam]

I read that after koschek wins tonite he's gonna drop to 155 to fight penn. I posted the link in the general mma thread

I so hope he loses. I fucking hate the guy.

I wish I still had that loss on tape. The interaction after they woke him up was priceless.

[Cromwell]

Here we go

[seeinred]

I have a small emergency, and I know one of you can help me. Comcast sucks balls and we can't order the fight here, so I'm looking for some other way to watch it if you catch my drift. PM me and I'll love you forever.

[Steam]

If only he could have sinked in that choke a bit more. Koscheck took that first round. C'mon Lytle.

[Capt.Caveman]

slight edge to koscheck

[Cromwell]

Just read the whole thread, red. All the info is on the first page.

[Steam]

Ouch, this isn't pretty for Lytle. I think he got busted on a punch before he even got him into the guillotine the second time.

[Capt.Caveman]

wow that's a lot of blood koscheck owned that rd

[seeinred]

You all rule so hard. I'm out, thanks soooo fucking much.

[Cromwell]

Ha, ha.

Lytle's corner telling him "you're fine, you're fine" - the dude is cut up bad. Kos really put on a gnp clinic.

[Fuck Crosby]

Come on Lytle

[Steam]

Damn, you have to respect that Lytle staying in it.

Good fight for Koscheck too, that squirrely fuck.

[Capt.Caveman]

koscheck won that one. I like koscheck

[Cromwell]

I thought Kos backed off at the end. He could have gone in for the knockout - and frankly I'm a bit surprised that he didn't.

[Capt.Caveman]

koschek hair is red that's awesome

[Fuck Crosby]

thats a nice red fro now

[Capt.Caveman]

50/50 wow didn't think it would be that close

[Capt.Caveman]

Stevenson vs Tibau......I think stevenson is gonna own him and his gerry curl


EDIT-he shaved his head since his inteviews....now I feel like a goose

[Cromwell]

Jimmy Norton has got to be pitching a tent right now - hearing his beloved Sabbath :)

[Capt.Caveman]

jimmy must be loving tibau's music

[N.Y. Johnny]

speaking of music what was Stevenson's music there?

[Cromwell]

jimmy must be loving tibau's music

I said it first :D

Joe Daddy's got his kid in the house.

I hope he wins.

[Cromwell]

speaking of music what was Stevenson's music there?

Not sure - its certainly no "Country Boy Can Survive" :icon_wink

[Capt.Caveman]

I said it first :D
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still sharp in your old age:action-sm

[Cromwell]

Love the almost Omaplata

[Capt.Caveman]

tibau won that rd. good job of stevenson for not getting subbed

[Cromwell]

Wow!

What a guillotine!

[Capt.Caveman]

his chokes are fuckin nasty...good job joe

[Cromwell]

Good job Joe!

Wins it for his son. :)

[Fuck Crosby]

god damn that was nice

[Capt.Caveman]

anthony keidis is a fuckin queer

[TheCableNazi]

Just noticed them sitting two rows behind Chuck Liddell.

Lucky bastards.

[Cromwell]

Next up - Patrick the Predator Cote. He's a French Canadian beast.

[Capt.Caveman]

53% for forrest wow

[Capt.Caveman]

I'm all about Almedia...

[Capt.Caveman]

NJ whoooooooooooooo

[Fuck Crosby]

CCR always gets me pumped...

[Cromwell]

NJ whoooooooooooooo

Ha, ha.

Well - I don't really have a rooting interest. I just know Cote better.

Now that I hear your boy has an autistic son - I'm going to root for him.

[roche]

French rap = the ghey

[Capt.Caveman]

wow renzo looks like he could fight at 205....


Cote's a french canadian wigger...boooooooo

[Cromwell]

French rap = the ghey

GSP comes out to the same stuff . . . :rolleyes:

[Capt.Caveman]

whooooooooooo

[roche]

GSP comes out to the same stuff . . . :rolleyes:

It is still gay. :icon_mrgr

[Capt.Caveman]

ricardo wins rd 1

[Cromwell]

Almeida wins the first round.

[Capt.Caveman]

i guess cote gets that rd for being the aggressor

[Cromwell]

Was a mostly dull third round, but a somewhat exciting finish.

Tough to call.

[roche]

what a crap fight.....

[Capt.Caveman]

the take down may have won it for almedia

[Capt.Caveman]

fuckk

[Cromwell]

what a crap fight.....

Pretty much.

Split decision for Cote.

[roche]

I would have also given it to Cote. Almedia didn't seem like he had much of anything after the first.

[Fuck Crosby]

So how long before Forrest starts to bleed everywhere

[Cromwell]

Whoooo Hooooo!

Lets get it Onnnnnnnn!!!!

[roche]

My money is on Rampage.

[Fuck Crosby]

i think Forrest is going to pull it out of his ass somehow

[Capt.Caveman]

it's starting

[Capt.Caveman]

rampage looks like he's ready to prison r&pe forrest

[GDRC]

Was that Bob Kelly?

[Capt.Caveman]

if? huh

[Cromwell]

Good round from Griffin so far!

[Cromwell]

Holy crap!

That was an exciting round!

[Capt.Caveman]

I give rd 1 to forest. he landed more. he got caught but rampage did nothing on the ground and forrest got back up. forrest 10-9

[Cromwell]

Go Forrest!!!!!

[b21bballer]

Was that Bob Kelly?

I thought I saw him behind Mandy Moore. :icon_lol:

[Capt.Caveman]

forrest dominates that rd 10-8

[Cromwell]

Griffin is just going to pound that left leg!

[Cromwell]

Griffin just can't lay back and not do anything. He still has to be aggressive.

[Capt.Caveman]

forrest 10-9 in a closer rd

[roche]

Griffin just can't lay back and not do anything. He still has to be aggressive.

Yep. I think Rampage won rd 3 because Forrest didn't do anything.

[Cromwell]

Yep. I think Rampage won rd 3 because Forrest didn't do anything.

Tough to call. Neither one did much.

Forrest has to go back to being aggresive.

[Capt.Caveman]

rampage won that rd

forrest won the 1st and dominated the 2nd. he shoulda won the 3rd. Rampage should need a ko here

[Palaver]

behind Mandy Moore?

[Cromwell]

Its too close. Forrest has got to do something significant in this round.

[Cromwell]

We have a new Light Heavyweight Champion!!!!!

[Capt.Caveman]

great fight. I gotta give it to forrest. but 3 and 5 were close and close usually goes to the champ, but rd 2 should have been a 10-8 rd

[moegolden]

behind Mandy Moore?

what's this mandy moore reference (i don't have a tv).

supposedly, she might be dating my second favorite musician. ryan adams.

[Fuck Crosby]

fuck! my connection went out

[Cromwell]

I just lost tvu

Somebody post the decision

[Capt.Caveman]

this sucks!!!!

[Angelfuck]

ahhhhh fuckin tvu

[Fuck Crosby]

what a bunch of cock smoking shit

[Gotti420]

Forrest won

[Fuck Crosby]

Blog: Griffin wins light heavyweight title via decision-msn

[Steam]

The feed I was watching on went out a fight ago and I didn't bother trying again. At least you all got to see the fight.

[Capt.Caveman]

mmajunkie is frozen too

[Cromwell]

Forrest won

Whooooo Hooooooo!!!!!!!

Wonder what Chuck is thinking right now?

Chuck v Forrest anyone? :icon_wink

[sniper]

So glad I was wrong! Great fight!!!!

[Steam]

what's this mandy moore reference (i don't have a tv).

supposedly, she might be dating my second favorite musician. ryan adams.

No, they just broke up.

Goddamnit man, don't you read Perez Hilton? Fuck.

[Gotti420]

Whooooo Hooooooo!!!!!!!

Wonder what Chuck is thinking right now?

Chuck v Forrest anyone? :icon_wink

It'll probably happen if Chuck beats Rashad.

[sniper]

Whooooo Hooooooo!!!!!!!

Wonder what Chuck is thinking right now?

Chuck v Forrest anyone? :icon_wink

was just saying the same thing to eveyone at my house heh

[Steam]

Whooooo Hooooooo!!!!!!!

Wonder what Chuck is thinking right now?

Chuck v Forrest anyone? :icon_wink

I shudder to think how much they will use the teacher/student from Ultimate Fighter to promote that.

But Chuck is probably happy that he wouldn't have to go through Rampage.

It'll probably happen if Chuck beats Rashad.

Which he should be able to do but fuck I'm rooting for Rashad to catch him with a kick to the head.

[Capt.Caveman]

good for forrest. toatally threw off my picks but i''m glad he won he's a tough kid

[Cromwell]

I wanna see Chuck bitch-slap Rashad.

Then Chuck - Forrest for the title.

Nice.

[Capt.Caveman]

here's a rd by rd for all the fights and the official score of forrest rampage


http://mmajunkie.com/news/4736/ufc-86-live-results-and-round-by-round-updates.mma

[Palaver]

what's this mandy moore reference (i don't have a tv).

supposedly, she might be dating my second favorite musician. ryan adams.

Sorry, at UFC they showed mandy moore and Jimmy and Bobby were sitting right behind here.

[Capt.Caveman]

goodnight negros

[sniper]

still went 3 for 2 but still pissed at Almeida, really like that kid! And i'm more than happy I was wrong about griffin, jackson. I see Griffin/Lidell, but I also see a rematch since it was so close. Great night of fights!

[Deadbase]

Yep, the whole room yelled..."Yimmy!"

[Steam]

still went 3 for 2 but still pissed at Almeida, really like that kid! And i'm more than happy I was wrong about griffin, jackson. I see Griffin/Lidell, but I also see a rematch since it was so close. Great night of fights!

I would love to see Jackson get a rematch before Liddell got his next shot at it. Hopefully Evans takes care of Chuck and we don't have to worry about that.

[wes mantooth]

Glad to see Forrest won but I think the boos from the crowd took him by surprise. Rampage is well liked too.

[sniper]

Glad to see Forrest won but I think the boos from the crowd took him by surprise. Rampage is well liked too.

They both are, like I said my heart was with Griffin, but my brain was with Jackson, it was like that on paper, but with emotion involved it was a tough fight to call. I'd like to see a rematch, I feel that if Griffiin didn't hurt Jackson's leg, it would have been an extremely different fight.

[Angelfuck]

I dunno if anyone posted this, I missed the decision bc of tvu but I was told the judges scored 48-46, 48-46, 49-47

[commish13]

Yeah. When it ended up being unanimous, I didn't even think for a second that it was Griffin's fight. And then that bastard announcer's brother:

Your winner by unanimous decision, and the...


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NEW! Light Heavyweight Champion.

I fuckin jumped outta my seat. Forrest is my boy!

[sniper]

Yeah. When it ended up being unanimous, I didn't even think for a second that it was Griffin's fight. And then that bastard announcer's brother:

Your winner by unanimous decision, and the...


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NEW! Light Heavyweight Champion.

I fuckin jumped outta my seat. Forrest is my boy!

Hah! did the same, I thought it was funny that during that Bruce Buffer pause Griffin started to try to walk away.

[seeinred]

Yeah. When it ended up being unanimous, I didn't even think for a second that it was Griffin's fight. And then that bastard announcer's brother:

Your winner by unanimous decision, and the...


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NEW! Light Heavyweight Champion.

I fuckin jumped outta my seat. Forrest is my boy!
That's exactly what happened here. I was so mad when he paused, then when he said "new" I yelled so fucking loud that I startled every single person at this party. Forrest is the fucking man.

[Angelfuck]

it was obviously forrest's fight, when tvu went down I didnt have a doubt as to who won, I was just wondering how close the decision was, and it was pretty fuckin close

[Palerider4146]

Just got home and watched the ppv on dvr (takes only about an hour or so to do), over all shitty fights except for the title fight...which was fucking great! I like both Rampage and Forrest, but you got to give forrest credit for coming in with a great gameplan and incredible heart. I would love to see a rematch of this one before chuck. I actually think that Forrest was kind of in shock. I thought he would be much more emotional but I'm not sure it sunk in that he's got that belt just yet.

[sniper]

Just got home and watched the ppv on dvr (takes only about an hour or so to do), over all shitty fights except for the title fight...which was fucking great! I like both Rampage and Forrest, but you got to give forrest credit for coming in with a great gameplan and incredible heart. I would love to see a rematch of this one before chuck. I actually think that Forrest was kind of in shock. I thought he would be much more emotional but I'm not sure it sunk in that he's got that belt just yet.

I also think that if Forrest didn't fuck up Jackson's leg, it'd be a different outcome, which is another reason I would love to see a rematch. Watching the ppv replay now, it was really cool to see Bob Kelly and Jim Norton sitting behind Mandy Moore. I noticed Bob the first time around (how could you not) but i caught Jimmy this time. Very cool (thanks Dana). I only disagree with what you call shitty fights. It was a very technical night which that statement coming from you is very surprising. Sub of the night should go to Stevenson, on the replay it looked like he baited Tibau into that guillotine, absolutely beautiful . I hope Chris Lytle gets a bonus for his tremendous heart against Koscheck, which still baffles me why he didn't finish him off, but for that Kos gained a lot of respect in my book. Fight of the night should definitely be the main event which lived up to and exceeded my expectations.

[mendozathejew]

I thought it was going to be a draw. Rampage clearly won round 1, I think Forrest deserved a 10-8 for round two. Round three was the swing round and I thought Rampage won it for the same reason as round 4- effective aggression. Rampage landed cleaner punches, I think Forrest got credit for a lot of high kicks that were checked and punches that were parried. Forrest round 5.

Rampage was shameful in his game plan, and Forrest was great with his. Rampage was giving up too much in size and reach to stand on the outside. Crappy undercard but the main event was very good. Forrest has improved a lot.

[mendozathejew]

I only disagree with what you call shitty fights. It was a very technical night which that statement coming from you is very surprising.

there were a lot of wrestling blanket fights going on. it wasnt exactly sanchez vs diaz, or barnett nogueira on the ground in there.

[Palerider4146]

[quote=sniper;2734669] I only disagree with what you call shitty fights. It was a very technical night which that statement coming from you is very surprising. quote]

Sniper I would like to stand corrected (in classic shining phrasage). I went back and you were very correct. The Stevenson fight was very good and he did a nice job of baiting him into that guilootine and Lytle showed unbelievable heart in one of the bloodiest matches I've seen. The thing was his vision amazingly enough didnt seem that compromised and was probably the reason they let it go on. Gurgel was put into a nice triiangle by Cole Miller by the way. And Guillard, if he matures, could become a force to reckon with...or become the LW Pete Sell.

As people who know me on here will know, my comment that they were shitty fights is attributed to my current sleep deprivation...off to nappy nap for me now!

[commish13]

I thought the main event was very close, but I was surprised Griffin ended up taking it, especially in a unanimous decision. I assume the reason he won was because of aggression. Forrest took a lot more strikes than he gave, but other than a couple times, Forrest got his because he went in and tried something while Rampage kinda held back. Other than at the end of a couple rounds and once or twice in the middle, Rampage just waited for Forrest to attack him.

I really can't see any other way Forrest won the fight. Which is fine -- it's a legitimate way to win, but as far as I can tell that's the backbone of the reason he did win.

I'm just glad he won. That's my boy.

[Palerider4146]

I thought the main event was very close, but I was surprised Griffin ended up taking it, especially in a unanimous decision. I assume the reason he won was because of aggression. Forrest took a lot more strikes than he gave, but other than a couple times, Forrest got his because he went in and tried something while Rampage kinda held back. Other than at the end of a couple rounds and once or twice in the middle, Rampage just waited for Forrest to attack him.

I really can't see any other way Forrest won the fight. Which is fine -- it's a legitimate way to win, but as far as I can tell that's the backbone of the reason he did win.

I'm just glad he won. That's my boy.


Well I'll give my take on how Forrest probably one that fight.

round one goes to Rampage 10-9
round two goes to Forrest and was not out of the realm of possibility of a 10-8 round
round three could go either way, but for arguments sake Rampage 10-9
rounds 4 and 5 I think that Forrest had a great gameplan of sticking and moving and just picked him apart. I think forrest did enough in both rounds to take them...and honestly, I dont think Rampage did enough to even win round 3...but saying that the result would have been...

Forest 48-Rampage 47
and with a 10-8 second round 48-46

The judges agreed with me actually in the 48-46 with the exception of one who gave 4 rounds two forrest. It may not have been a dominating fight, but his gameplan was fantastic, stick and move and he was scoring points. Rampage threw a lot of wild stuff that I dont think connected as well as some may think. In some ways it kink of reminded me of Griffin vs Bonnar I with the exception that Forrest tightened up his stand up game.

[Capt.Caveman]

I thought it was going to be a draw. Rampage clearly won round 1,


I couldn't disagree with you more. Forrest landed more he was the busyer fighter. Rampage landed 2 punches and got a takedown, then forrest stood right back up.

[Capt.Caveman]

[quote=sniper;2734669] As people who know me on here will know, my comment that they were shitty fights is attributed to my current sleep deprivation...off to nappy nap for me now!


Sleep tight tiger:action-sm

[cigarsandscotch]

Forest fucking Griffin!! Wow. I've always watched his fights and thought, " He seems like a nice guy, I hope he doesn't get hurt" He always surprises me. The dude is a fucking animal.

[Chino Kapone]

Any video links? I have no idea where to go to get em...

[mendozathejew]

It may not have been a dominating fight, but his gameplan was fantastic, stick and move and he was scoring points. Rampage threw a lot of wild stuff that I dont think connected as well as some may think.

yeah Id argue just the opposite. When Rampage landed, you knew it, cause it hurt Forrest and he backed far off. Forrest's punches didnt land nearly as clean as Rampage's did.

I really think Forrest benefits from exceeding expectations.

[mendozathejew]

I couldn't disagree with you more. Forrest landed more he was the busyer fighter. Rampage landed 2 punches and got a takedown, then forrest stood right back up.

round 1 Rampage, Round 2 Forrest is basically the only thing most agree on. the first was pretty even until the knockdown.

[JMCC]

It was a good fight, I completely overlooked Forrest heart, I guess I got caught up with Rampage's win over Liddell and Hendo, but I should have known better. It seemed like Forrest was the aggressor for most of the fight and that probably played a big role on the judges decision. I actually scored the fight 48-47 Rampage unless the second round was 10-8 then 47-47. Either way, it was a great fight, both guys are class act and I can't wait for the rematch.

[TheTruth]

Forrest should have lost a point in round 1 for grabbing the cage when he had Rampage in his guard to get himself away from the fence

[TheTruth]

Any video links? I have no idea where to go to get em...

Thats the whole fight

http://www.thaplace2be.com/ufcarchives.html

[seeinred]

Forrest should have lost a point in round 1 for grabbing the cage when he had Rampage in his guard to get himself away from the fence
IIRC, there was some cage-grabbing in the other fights that went unnoticed, too. I just thought it was kind of weird.

[TheTruth]

IIRC, there was some cage-grabbing in the other fights that went unnoticed, too. I just thought it was kind of weird.

The only reason I think it should have happended in this case was, it wasn't a situation where you are being taken down and it is a natural reaction to grab something. Forrest was on his back looked back grabbed the cage to help him get a better position.

[seeinred]

The only reason I think it should have happended in this case was, it wasn't a situation where you are being taken down and it is a natural reaction to grab something. Forrest was on his back looked back grabbed the cage to help him get a better position.
That kind of came off like I was saying he shouldn't have been penalized because nobody else did, which I didn't mean. I guess I just meant I'm not surprised it went unnoticed by the ref/judges.

[Chino Kapone]

Thats the whole fight

http://www.thaplace2be.com/ufcarchives.html

Thank you :D

[Capt.Caveman]

round 1 Rampage, Round 2 Forrest is basically the only thing most agree on. the first was pretty even until the knockdown.

not on this board. I was rooting for rampage and I only thought he won 1 rd, 2 were close but he only WON 1 rd. Forrest landed more he was more aggressive and he fought a better fight. Like I said earlier Rampage landed 2 good punches the whole rd. He lost there is no denying it it wasn't close forrest kicked his ass end of story.

[mendozathejew]

not on this board. I was rooting for rampage and I only thought he won 1 rd, 2 were close but he only WON 1 rd. Forrest landed more he was more aggressive and he fought a better fight. Like I said earlier Rampage landed 2 good punches the whole rd. He lost there is no denying it it wasn't close forrest kicked his ass end of story.

the board is then in the minority regarding round 1, and whether or not it was close. most of the write ups from mma's journalists called it practically even. Forrest himself said he was hurt by most punches Rampage threw, and he said it was so close it warranted a rematch.

your opinion is fine, but it isnt the common one.

[mendozathejew]

fuck my opinion. heres one from Randy Couture, from Griffen's camp

"I thought that it was a very, very close fight," Couture said. "I thought that it was three rounds to two [for Griffin]. I thought that Quinton did enough to win two of the rounds clearly. I thought they may have been able to give Quinton a 10-8 round in the first round with the knockdown and then the second round you could have given Forrest a 10-8 round.

"And it could have went the other way. If one or two rounds went the other way, it could have been three rounds to two for Quinton. It was that close."

[supers4972]

fuck my opinion. heres one from Randy Couture, from Griffen's camp

Randy is Forrest's manager not just in his camp.

I love both guys but I honestly thought Forrest won. I don't know if he will be able to keep it long with Machida getting a shot.

[mendozathejew]

I agree with Liddells trainer more than ever- Machida beats everyone. Though Id like to see him fight Anderson Silva.

it wouldnt be a box office hit, but its a martial arts super fight. They are two of the only actual traditional martial artists in the game. And Machida is really a natural 185 pounder anyways.

I dont see Machida getting a title shot soon though. Too many people with the friends of dana white card holders in line

[JMCC]

From Compustrike.com:

Inside the Numbers: Griffin was clearly the busier fighter overall, throwing 268 more total strikes than Jackson. Jackson was more efficient (and landed the harder shots), landing 49% of his total strikes to 33% for Griffin. Jackson had a 67-48 edge in arm strikes landed, 64 of which were power strikes to 47 for Griffin.

Griffin had the advantage in the ground game. He had a 46-14 edge in ground strikes landed, bolstered by a 44-0 edge in round two. In fact, Jackson did not land a single strike the entire five minutes after absorbing a numbing leg kick two minutes into the round. Griffin also had four submission attempts and registered two dominant positions.

Griffin’s huge round two was the difference in the fight.

[Capt.Caveman]

I really don't see how anyone can think this fight was close. Forrest won outright. His striking was better his ground work was better and his overall cage presents was better. Rampage landed some good shots but they were few and far between. I thinks it's a "homer" thing like in football.

[MrUgly]

not on this board. I was rooting for rampage and I only thought he won 1 rd, 2 were close but he only WON 1 rd. Forrest landed more he was more aggressive and he fought a better fight. Like I said earlier Rampage landed 2 good punches the whole rd. He lost there is no denying it it wasn't close forrest kicked his ass end of story.

So, you gave round 4 to Griffin? Even though he was getting rocked, got busted open, slammed, and rocked some more? Call it how you see it, man

I just don't see how Forrest won this. Yes he was the busier fighter, but Rampage dodged most of his punches. Rampage was never hurt, unless you count his knee and the take down in round 2, which still didn't shake him up, and Forrest's performance was not convincing. He was more aggressive, but not very accurate nor effective. His best weapon was the leg kick which landed the most consistently of his other strikes. So, you give the guy a belt because of his leg kicks?

[Capt.Caveman]

So, you gave round 4 to Griffin? Even though he was getting rocked, got busted open, slammed, and rocked some more? Call it how you see it, man

I just don't see how Forrest won this. Yes he was the busier fighter, but Rampage dodged most of his punches. Rampage was never hurt, unless you count his knee and the take down in round 2, which still didn't shake him up, and Forrest's performance was not convincing. He was more aggressive, but not very accurate nor effective. His best weapon was the leg kick which landed the most consistently of his other strikes. So, you give the guy a belt because of his leg kicks?

no, stupid, I didn't give rd 4 to forest rampage won that one so next time read all the posts before you put your 2 cents in, but it's a 5 rd fight. Rampage wasn't very accurate or convincing either. And stop being a fanboy rampage was hurt in the 2nd rd so just stop. Leg kicks are stikes to. It was a close fight rds 3 and 5 coulda went either way but overall forrest won he's the champ end of story.