What "Great" Movie do you loathe?

[Kugzilla]

In light of Dre's thread on "Bad Movies that you'll watch," (here: http://wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=93273)

I wondered-what "Great movies or classics" do you personally hate?

In other words, what movies are everyone else wrong about?

For me:

I think "Citizen Kane" is horrible.

I hate "The English Patient."

Wha about you?

[FAZ8218]

I always hated E.T.

[WhiteHonkyDevil]

I can NOT fucking stand Pulp Fiction or True Romance.

Shit, I hate a LOT of popular movies, but I generally don't remember until someone else mentions one

[Kugzilla]

I find ET irritating too.

[Atomic Fireball]

This is a lot easier than the What Stinkers Do You Love thread

Anything with Tim Robbins

Anything with George Clooney

[Kugzilla]

This is a lot easier than the What Stinkers Do You Love thread

Anything with Tim Robbins



Except Shawshank right?

[LiddyRules]

Shawshank Redemption
Breakfast Club

[DocSavage]

ET Sucked balls then...now...always will suck (eric cartman's balls)

[jagsfans]

Stop playing it safe by saying The English Patient and ET. I'm throwing down and I don't care what kind of shit I catch for it.

Chinatown - terrible overacting (Jack's great, but no one else) and dull, drawn out story.

The Deer Hunter - WTF is with the wedding in real time and the rest of the movie is also poorly paced.

[jagsfans]

Shawshank Redemption
Breakfast Club

Ballsy for calling out Shawshank. I think its nearly flawless. What is your big gripe with it.

Breakfast Club a lot of people hate but I enjoy solely for nostalgia.

[LiddyRules]

Ballsy for calling out Shawshank. I think its nearly flawless. What is your big gripe with it.

Breakfast Club a lot of people hate but I enjoy solely for nostalgia. Yeah it's ballsy, what are you going to do about it? I'll take all you on bitch.

Honestly, it just didn't do it for me. I like Tim Robbins as an actor (one of the few who are great at both comedy and drama) but otherwise I just...I don't know, I didn't really care for it.

As for your second statement, I think you have it reversed. I think most people enjoy it solely for nostalgia, even people who weren't born when that movie came out.

The Deer Hunter - WTF is with the weeding in real time and the rest of the movie is also poorly paced. Check out Heaven's Gate.

[Kugzilla]

I really didn't enjoy "No Country for old men" with the exception of the supporting performance.

Also, I think Raging Bull is a little overrated.

I think Scarface is WAY overrated.

[Farside]

I can't see how either would fall under the "Great movies or classics" category but... 2 movies I HATE that too many people seem to love for me are:
Super Troopers
Napoleon Dynamite

[jagsfans]

I can't see how either would fall under the "Great movies or classics" category but... 2 movies I HATE that too many people seem to love for me are:
Super Troopers
Napoleon Dynamite

QFMFT. I hate napoleon dynamite, but I didn't include it in my post because I refuse to recognize it as "Great"

[PDX909]

Wizard of Oz
Willy Wonker
anything with James Dean in it... what an overrated ass.

and while it's not a movie... I never got Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' video either... big fucking deal... get over yourself.

[moegolden]

if you were to limit the choices to these, it should get interesting....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI%27s_100_Years..._100_Movies
(note the revisions noted there)
most of these movies are pretty unassailable.


midnight cowboy wasn't bad, but it was disappointing to me after winning best picture. at the time i saw chinatown i remember being disappointed, but that too has grown on me.

orson welles was a major league dick in real life, but citizen kane was so inventive that i'm not sure if anyone who doesn't know film history can appreciate it.

[pure_waves]

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Everyone seemed to like it, and it got outstanding reviews...but I cannot stand this piece of shit.

[WhiskeyWhispers]

The one that immediately comes to mind is the Oscar winning "Crash". Total garbage. Without a doubt the worst best reviewed movie ever.

I didn't really care for The Godfather movies, but I was young when I watched them. Maybe I would feel different now, but at the time they did nothing for me. I'll take Goodfellas over them any day.

[roche]

I didn't really care for The Godfather movies

:icon_eek:

[fandango86]

Crash was the most contrived piece of garbage I ever saw. The performances were among the worst I've ever seen.

I don't know if that movie will hold up as 'Great' 10 years from now. I hope not.

A few that have held onto the label that I absolutely loathe are:

Forrest Gump - Buy the soundtrack if you like the soundtrack, you dumb hippie wanna be. The movie is total garbage.

Saving Private Ryan - Watch the first 15 minutes if you like the first 15 minutes. The movie goes on for about 2 hours after that, and is putrid.

I've never watched it, but I will always loathe Annie Hall for winning the Oscar over Star Wars. No movie about a quirky transgender cunt dating a neurotic kid toucher could be better than the greatest blockbuster ever made. Sometimes the Academy Awards get too caught up sucking who they think is the appropriate people's dicks and forget what great cinema is. Actually, the three movies above all represent this practice as well.

[queeby]

I don't think that this is considered great, but everyone I know was talking about how great Eastern Promises was and I absolutley hated it.

[Vyce]

Mark me down as hating "Crash" as well.

I wouldn't include Napoleon Dynamite on this list as it's too polarizing. I don't think it could be considered a "great" film anyway, but regardless, you either like it or hate it. Lots of people don't "get" that film, and I don't say that in a pretentious "you just didn't get it, mmmmmmaaaaannnnn" sort of way, it's just a very odd film for people who have somewhat bizarre senses of humor.

[jagsfans]

I don't think that this is considered great, but everyone I know was talking about how great Eastern Promises was and I absolutley hated it.

Oh on that note, I felt "A History af Violence" was way overrated. I wouldn't say I hate it but it also didn't deserve the accolades it received.

[jagsfans]

I didn't really care for The Godfather movies, but I was young when I watched them. Maybe I would feel different now, but at the time they did nothing for me. I'll take Goodfellas over them any day.

Definitely watch "The Godfather" movies as an adult. They hold up well for the time they were made and are still entertaining. Even the third which is better than a lot of other shit movies, but no way near as good as I or II.

I won't compare them to "Goodfellas" because I have a different appreciation for each.

[Perch1019]

I really didn't enjoy "No Country for old men" with the exception of the supporting performance.


x2. Javier Bardem was an awesome character but overall I thought the movie was nothing special. The ending was horseshit. Sitting in the theater, I felt like hours had gone by and couldnt wait for it to end.

I never cared for Clockwork Orange either.

[sniper]

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Everyone seemed to like it, and it got outstanding reviews...but I cannot stand this piece of shit.

I felt the same way about Lost in Translation.

[edzeppe]

I wouldn't include Napoleon Dynamite on this list as it's too polarizing. I don't think it could be considered a "great" film anyway, but regardless, you either like it or hate it. Lots of people don't "get" that film, and I don't say that in a pretentious "you just didn't get it, mmmmmmaaaaannnnn" sort of way, it's just a very odd film for people who have somewhat bizarre senses of humor.

First of all- i agree- its not great.

and its polarizing because there are 2 types of people who saw the movie...
those that loved it WERE that guy in high school, and those that hated it KNEW that guy in high school.

the movie is horrifically unfunny.

[Stig]

I've tried to watch "classics" like Citizen Kane and Casablanca, and I just can't sit through more than a few minutes without being bored to tears.

[Dre]

The one that immediately comes to mind is the Oscar winning "Crash". Total garbage. Without a doubt the worst best reviewed movie ever.

Crash is absolutely HORRIBLE!

[DocSavage]

if you were to limit the choices to these, it should get interesting....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI%27s_100_Years..._100_Movies
(note the revisions noted there)
most of these movies are pretty unassailable.


midnight cowboy wasn't bad, but it was disappointing to me after winning best picture. at the time i saw chinatown i remember being disappointed, but that too has grown on me.

orson welles was a major league dick in real life, but citizen kane was so inventive that i'm not sure if anyone who doesn't know film history can appreciate it.

Ok then...My highest Crappiest high regarded movie remains ET at #25 but I will add these two: Network at #66 and The Deer Hunter at #79. That is all I could find that hate. Good list...I's luvs the Wiki.

[Glenn Dandy]

I just cant get " Godfather" mayby cause Im English... the whole movie seems slow & stoopid to me.

Deer hunter..... long, boring, just ok.... doesn't make a ton of sense realy.


Star WArs.... I hardly liked in 78 when i was a kid... now its completly retarded to watch.


Woody Alen period... A whiney Jew... I dont get it.

Raiders of the lost ark....Giant foam rocks? Again not getting the draw.

[ruckstande]

I hate Scarface, Forrest Gump, Cast Away, A Few Good Men, and The Departed.

[ruckstande]

I felt the same way about Lost in Translation.

Boring as shit.

[JMCC]

Even though I haven't watch the whole movie, I can't stand Titanic. I tend to like movies with Leonardo DiCaprio(no homo) but can't force myself to watch that movie.

[Absolutely]

I Loathe the following, off the "Top 100"

It's a Wonderful Life - It sucks
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - Was assigned the book in highschool probably 2 different years, each time with the movie shown. I was just bored with it.
Apocalypse Now - Meh, I think it's way overrated.
Singing In The Rain - Unwatchable.
Taxi Driver - Saw it once, would never watch it again.
Forrest Gump - I fucking hate this movie, maybe helped by the fact that it's on TBS every other day. It's so long, and I personally hate Tom Hanks.

[Kugzilla]

a lot of people liked "Fatal Attraction" back in the day. I, for one, hated it.

[WhiteHonkyDevil]

I never cared for Clockwork Orange either.

That's another one I can't get through...fuck that movie.


First of all- i agree- its not great.
and its polarizing because there are 2 types of people who saw the movie...
those that loved it WERE that guy in high school, and those that hated it KNEW that guy in high school. the movie is horrifically unfunny.

I'm kind of neither. There was nobody that pathetic in high school. Mine, yours, anyone's.

Why do you have Ryan Field in your avatar?

[Stormrider666]

History of Violence-Never Understood what the big deal was about it.

American Beauty

True Romance-Except for the scenes with Slater/Oldman and Walken/Hopper, its a violent chick flick.

Titanic-I have never seen the movie, but I know I hate it.

Dancing With Wolves-I'm usually into stories about Native Americans, however this movie is fucking horrible.

[ChimneyFish]

:icon_eek:

For 80% of this thread.

Holy fuck!!!!:shocked:

[Sevenyars]

I am trying to "catch up" on alot of the movies that O and A and Ron and Fez talk about. I grew up when alot of them came out, but just never watched. So far I have not liked many of them.

1) Clock work orange, and for that matter all Kubrick. - I guess I'm on the side that just didn't get them. The ending of 2001 made no sense to me. All of those movies are just too cool for me. I suppose.
2)Barton fink - Was this a joke i didn't get?
3)Mean streets- ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
4) Taxi Driver- Oh I get it, if you cut your hair funny you will want to kill someone.
5)Deer hunter- I think the problem is that "bob" is a little over rated. What was the obsession with Russian Roulette.

[Plunkies]

2001: A Space Odyssey

Nothing has ever been, nor will ever be, more boring.

[ChimneyFish]

I am trying to "catch up" on alot of the movies that O and A and Ron and Fez talk about. I grew up when alot of them came out, but just never watched. So far I have not liked many of them.


I've been doing the same, not only with films O&A and Ron & Fez have mentioned, but films other board members have mentioned.

[silentbob8201]

Casablanca is a tuff one, as is Gone with the Wind. And its not that i dont like old movies either Its just blah.

[Ant's_rapier]

2001: A Space Odyssey

Nothing has ever been, nor will ever be, more boring.

I agree. While it was a well shot film it was unbearably boring.

[LiddyRules]

1) Clock work orange, and for that matter all Kubrick. - I guess I'm on the side that just didn't get them. The ending of 2001 made no sense to me. All of those movies are just too cool for me. I suppose.
2)Barton fink - Was this a joke i didn't get?
3)Mean streets- ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
4) Taxi Driver- Oh I get it, if you cut your hair funny you will want to kill someone.
5)Deer hunter- I think the problem is that "bob" is a little over rated. What was the obsession with Russian Roulette. I totally disagree. Especially 1, 2, and 4. 2 might be my favorite Coen Brothers movie and Kubrick is my favorite director of all time and Taxi Driver is my favorite Scorcese.

[Ant's_rapier]

I totally disagree. Especially 1, 2, and 4. 2 might be my favorite Coen Brothers movie and Kubrick is my favorite director of all time and Taxi Driver is my favorite Scorcese.

I agree with your disagreement of Clockwork. That was a great film. Wonderfully violent for the times. Chock full of great lines.

[ChimneyFish]

I totally disagree. Especially 1, 2, and 4. 2 might be my favorite Coen Brothers movie and Kubrick is my favorite director of all time and Taxi Driver is my favorite Scorcese.

Fucking loved Barton Fink also.

[THE FEZ MAN]

rocky horror picture show..... i FUCKING HATE THAT MOVIE.....

the rest of the ones that you guys hate i kind of liked except CRASH boy did that suck balls. the old movies ive tried to watch but they just bore the hell out of me

[Sevenyars]

I totally disagree. Especially 1, 2, and 4. 2 might be my favorite Coen Brothers movie and Kubrick is my favorite director of all time and Taxi Driver is my favorite Scorcese.


I totally understand I am in the minority.
The kubrick stuff I personally find awful. He seems to be a sexually ulcerated perverted creep. Everyone of his movies I have watched have been long winded and abtuse for no apparant reason.

Barton Fink i found to be awful, and kind of hacky. So was the moral that writers in Hollywood are in Hell? My heart trully goes out to all those poor writers living in sunny california. Half way through, I could no longer stand the over the top "hero" who gives a fuck what was in the box, I kept hoping it was Bartons head. Let's go to black on a dying seagull.
I don't pretend to be a hipster or movie savie. I really try to have an open mind. This is one I just did not get.

Taxi driver to me was mean streets 2. By the end I could have cared less about any character and was hoping for a race riot that would have taken them all out.

I know people love these movies. That's why I am trying to see what all the big deal is about. And i can promise you that I take full responsibility for not getting these movies. I can also promise you that I am not trying to be cool by hating them. They just didn't play to me .

[jagsfans]

I agree with your disagreement of Clockwork. That was a great film. Wonderfully violent for the times. Chock full of great lines.

I saw Clockwork for the first time a year ago and thought it was amazing. Completely relevant and insightful. Kubrick is classic and have yet to see anything in his catalog that wasn't completely inspired.

Also I'd like to include 2nd half of Apocalypse Now. I love everything until Marlon Brando appears, from there on out you can set the film on fire for all I give a fuck.

[WhiteHonkyDevil]

I totally understand I am in the minority.
The kubrick stuff I personally find awful. He seems to be a sexually ulcerated perverted creep. Everyone of his movies I have watched have been long winded and abtuse for no apparant reason.

I agree. Fuck Stanley Kubrick. The only tolerable thing he did was the 1st half of Full Metal Jacket, and that was largely due to R. Lee Ermey carrying everything.

He butchered the SHIT out of The Shining, too.

[Hudson]

rocky horror picture show..... i FUCKING HATE THAT MOVIE.....

the rest of the ones that you guys hate i kind of liked except CRASH boy did that suck balls. the old movies ive tried to watch but they just bore the hell out of me
Agreed..Who knew, by the way, there was a sequal to RHPC???
I love 2001 and all of the Kubric films.
Don't get Godfather..Like Once Upon a Time in America better.
Scarface I HAAAATE!! Just not a fave.

[WhiteHonkyDevil]

Agreed..Who knew, by the way, there was a sequal to RHPC???

Yep, it's called Shock Treatment. I kinda dig both

However, I can understand the hate for either. You can't just sit and watch them. Without the whole weird theater experience the movies suck HARD.

[gleet]

I have a list of great movies I have NEVER seen and try my damndest not to. It has become a bit of a challenge now.

It's a Wonderful Life
Pulp Fiction
Rocky Horror
Casablanca

Probably more. A coworker saw Pulp Fiction and described the ass banging scene and I thought I just didn't need to pay to see that.

[Hudson]

Yep, it's called Shock Treatment. I kinda dig both

However, I can understand the hate for either. You can't just sit and watch them. Without the whole weird theater experience the movies suck HARD.
That might have been it..I had to go to bed at 9 for all of my fun years. They played it every Friday at Midnight for like 10 years where I grew up.
No wonder I like all the slow, plodding, and lonely movies..

[Garyisajoke]

"Casablanca" sucked.

"Gone with the Wind" was too fucking long and boring.

"Usual Suspects" is overrated.

"Fight Club" is the kind of movie that people just deep enough for idiots to jump up and down clapping, thinking they saw something special when there's so many better and more effective films.

I could have written "American Beauty" when I was 15.

[WhiteHonkyDevil]

Oh, got another one.

Brokeback motherfucking Mountain.

Aside from the strangely easy anal penetration, what makes that movie so goddamn different than any other shitty and boring love story?

I haven't made it through that movie yet....

[jagsfans]

I could have written "American Beauty" when I was 15.

Then why didn't you? :action-sm Honestly I think Alan Ball is very talented solely from his creator role and writing influence in "Six Feet Under".

[Trippy]

Gone with the wind - ZZzzzz.

Casino Royal - ppl raved about this pile of shit. It sucked Bonds abused balls.

Nightmare before Xmas - this one angered me. Actually almost anything by Tim Burton sucks Aids. Overrated cunt.

[Ant's_rapier]

Nightmare before Xmas - this one angered me. Actually almost anything by Tim Burton sucks Aids. Overrated cunt.

Big Fish was a decent flick.

[DonTheTrucker]

I don't have anything new to add to this thread, but I will agree with the people who say that Clockwork Orange and 2001 were shit. Kubrick made 1 1/2 good movies, The Shining and the first half of Full Metal Jacket. Everything else he did was compete shit. And yes, I include Dr. Strangelove. Interesting camera angles do not a good movie make, which also means I hate Citizen Kane and Eternal Sunshine. Only a fucking film student could like those pretentious pieces of shit.

[Eagle.007]

Some good picks here. Many I cannot comment on because I haven't seen them.

Mine is Raging Bull. Without question. Recently films, I'd go with I'm Not There or Into the Wild.

[NortonsHeiny]

I can not stand Pulp Fiction. Hated it really.

[Sack of Chisels]

Memento
Requiem for a Dream
The Usual Suspects

all a little overrated imo.

[Edible Napalm]

A lot of the movies I was going to say have been said already.(Dr. Strangelove, Casino Royal, Napoleon Dynamite, Crash, Titanic, Forrest Gump, American Beauty)

Here's some I didn't see:
Chasing Amy
Rudy
A Beautiful Mind
Kill Bill vol. 1(I like the second one though.)
Spiderman(All of them.)
X-Men(Again all of them.)
xXx

[BigTony]

Both Kill Bill movies. Just a steaming pile of shitty Tarantino rip-off crap. Hate everything about 'em EXCEPT for when Uma gets the shotgun blast through the door. I hoped that she was fucking dead and the awful misery of that movie would end, but no.

[jagsfans]

Nightmare before Xmas - this one angered me. Actually almost anything by Tim Burton sucks Aids. Overrated cunt.

Beetlejuice
Edward Scissorhands
Ed Wood
Sleepy Hollow
Mars Attacks
Big Fish
Sweeney Todd

also

Batman and Batman Returns

Each one a good movie in it's own way. Arguably Sleepy Hollow is Burton's best. If Burton is doing his own thing it's solid. Planet of the Apes and Chocolate Factory are fucking awful.

[jagsfans]

I can not stand Pulp Fiction. Hated it really.

This I will never comprehend.

[Sevenyars]

love pulp fiction
Just saw the kill bills this weekend, thought they were great
Beetlejuice, Edward scissorhands, big fish, nightmare before christmas all good
Both halves of full metal jacket in their own way, not together. are really good.

I did not like Jackie Brown and hated Death proof. But I usually love Q. T. I'm really looking forward to the army movie. I may not like everything he does. But I love the idea he is not afraid to try new stuff. Or really, old stuff in a new way.

[Stormrider666]

Gone with the wind - ZZzzzz.

Casino Royal - ppl raved about this pile of shit. It sucked Bonds abused balls.

Nightmare before Xmas - this one angered me. Actually almost anything by Tim Burton sucks Aids. Overrated cunt.

Nigthmare before Xmas, is one of the few movies I almost got up and walked out on. Except for the first Batman(which to be honest, should be called the Joker) and Sleepy Hollow, Tim Burton's career is filled with shit.

[silentbob8201]

Nigthmare before Xmas, is one of the few movies I almost got up and walked out on. Except for the first Batman(which to be honest, should be called the Joker) and Sleepy Hollow, Tim Burton's career is filled with shit.

Im gonna be honest looking back his movies the only two i could actually sit and watch to this day are Edward Scissorhands and Pee Wee's Big Adventure Hell his short movie Frankenweenie is more inspired than most of the crap he's done over the last 20 years.

[jagsfans]

Almost forgot one. I HATE PUNCHDRUNK LOVE!!! I love P T Anderson, but this is a pile of shit

[LiddyRules]

Beetlejuice
Edward Scissorhands
Ed Wood
Sleepy Hollow
Mars Attacks
Big Fish
Sweeney Todd

also

Batman and Batman Returns

Each one a good movie in it's own way. Arguably Sleepy Hollow is Burton's best. If Burton is doing his own thing it's solid. Planet of the Apes and Chocolate Factory are fucking awful.

I dislike Tim Burton and find him overrated. I'll give him Ed Wood and I found Mars Attacks and Sleepy Hollow enjoyable but I hated POTA, CF, BF, ST, NBX and especially ES. How people fell in love with that one is beyond me.

He butchered the SHIT out of The Shining, too. Butchered or made it better?

Dr. Strangelove is one of the best comedies ever made.

[WhiteHonkyDevil]

Tim Burton movies....I liked Mars Attacks and Ed Wood. Everything else can suck my ass. I don't get all the love for Sleepy Hollow. I wanted to REALLY like it, and the story was decent, the atmosphere was really great, but the acting was so fucking terrible (particularly the women who ended up behind everything), I thought I was watching a really bad Scooby Doo episode.

Here's a broad stroke. Aside from Nightmare on Elm Street and Ed Wood, I hate everything that Johnny Depp has ever been in. (Platoon doesn't count, he wasn't in it for more than a minute or two)


Butchered or made it better?


Fucking BUTCHERED.

[Sevenyars]

Here's a broad stroke. Aside from Nightmare on Elm Street and Ed Wood, I hate everything that Johnny Depp has ever been in. (Platoon doesn't count, he wasn't in it for more than a minute or two)



Uh hum, may i remind you of 21 Jump street

[WhiteHonkyDevil]

Uh hum, may i remind you of 21 Jump street

Never watched it.

And while I'm here: FUCK Boogie Nights.

[Sevenyars]

Never watched it.

And while I'm here: FUCK Boogie Nights.

How could you miss a show where a 26 year old cop goes under cover as a 16 year old drug dealer. And gets away with it unnoticed.

[Stormrider666]

Tim Burton movies....I liked Mars Attacks and Ed Wood. Everything else can suck my ass. I don't get all the love for Sleepy Hollow. I wanted to REALLY like it, and the story was decent, the atmosphere was really great, but the acting was so fucking terrible (particularly the women who ended up behind everything), I thought I was watching a really bad Scooby Doo episode.

Here's a broad stroke. Aside from Nightmare on Elm Street and Ed Wood, I hate everything that Johnny Depp has ever been in. (Platoon doesn't count, he wasn't in it for more than a minute or two)



Fucking BUTCHERED.

Johnny Depp was great in From Hell and despite the clusterfuck of the second and third films, he did a good job as Captain Jack Sparrow.

Oh and I agree with you about Stanely Kubrick's version of the Shining. I have always said I prefer the mini-series Shining over Kubrick's. Although I have enjoyied countless hours of entertainment from the jokes that Ant and Lil Jimmy made based on the Shining.

[askewcore]

I hate all the Lord of the Rings movies. I found them tedious and uninteresting and a colossal waste of half a day of my life.

[Mindslayer]

I couldnt stand Forrest Gump.

I also fucking hated Crash. Too preachy and way too many coincidences throughout the movie.

We get, we're a country built on hate and ignorance...

[Bud8Weiser]

There are a few that have already been mentioned that I"ve never seen in their entirety but can't stand them. One that I've seen the whole thing and just don't get what everyone thought was so great about it was Old School. So overrated

[Hudson]

Here's a broad stroke. Aside from Nightmare on Elm Street and Ed Wood, I hate everything that Johnny Depp has ever been in. (Platoon doesn't count, he wasn't in it for more than a minute or two)



Fucking BUTCHERED.
9th Gate is a fave. Good and creepy..and Depp plays the wuss he is.

[jagsfans]

Never watched it.

And while I'm here: FUCK Boogie Nights.

OK you win for being the ballsiest one in this thread:action-sm, even though I cant disagree more. You hate "Pulp Fiction" and "Boogie Nights", which to me a 6 star movies in a 5 star world. Would you care to take a dump on "Fargo" while you're at it?

[Ant's_rapier]

OK you win for being the ballsiest one in this thread:action-sm, even though I cant disagree more. You hate "Pulp Fiction" and "Boogie Nights", which to me a 6 star movies in a 5 star world. Would you care to take a dump on "Fargo" while you're at it?

Thats just insanity. Fargo is comedic gold.

[jagsfans]

Thats just insanity. Fargo is comedic gold.

That was my point.

[Hudson]

1 more:
Last Tango.sorry, earth momma muff + Butter, and Jabba..not erotic classic..
Just disturbing.

[Motor Head]

Flame Suit ---ENGAGE---

Any of that Lord of the Rings tripe. It sucked, and after 20 minutes of the first one I called the cable company and told them I would not pay for the PPV charge of $3.95 for that filmed abortion. They sent me a coupon for a free movie.

Resevior Dogs - Okay I pretended to be hip and said I liked it. I lied, it just stunk. I did however laugh my ass off when Madsen started talking to the cops ear.

Pulp Fiction - Okay I loved this movie, and bought the special edition DVD and did something that rarely happens...watched it too much, and now avoid it. It was like I went from loving it, then watched it for the 20th time in 2 years and now it's like pulling teeth when one of my buddies wants to watch it at my house.

[WhiteHonkyDevil]

OK you win for being the ballsiest one in this thread:action-sm, even though I cant disagree more. You hate "Pulp Fiction" and "Boogie Nights", which to me a 6 star movies in a 5 star world. Would you care to take a dump on "Fargo" while you're at it?

Funny you should mention that.....

And it's not just to be 'that guy'..because I'm pretty sure I brought it up in the "No Country for Old Men" thread. I fucking HATED Fargo. It tried too hard, which is fine for "The Big Lebowski" or "The Hudsucker Proxy", or even "Raising Arizona" (which I also detest, even though I like every actor in that movie), but for Fargo I couldn't 'get into' the story because I was so goddamned irritated by the characters. Yeah, I get it, you have a stupid accent, live in a podunk town, and for some strange reason a 40something chink wants to try and weasel his ramen-breath into your pregnant panties.... Fuck off.


Resevior Dogs - Okay I pretended to be hip and said I liked it. I lied, it just stunk. I did however laugh my ass off when Madsen started talking to the cops ear.


I fucking loved that movie until the ear scene. It just reeked of "look how shocking I can try and be!!!". I did laugh when he was talking to the ear, though...it kinda brought me back from the loathing I was starting to feel. Overall, though, Quentarrr can suck a dick. When he stops trying to sell us on the shit movies he's obsessed with, and starts writing more than just pseudo-witty dialogue, he can stop sucking said dick.

Really liked his interview on O&A though. Almost turned me around on hating him...until I saw Death Proof.

[NotSoFast]

I can't see how either would fall under the "Great movies or classics" category but... 2 movies I HATE that too many people seem to love for me are:
Super Troopers
Napoleon Dynamite:clap::clap::clap:

[weakside]

Mine is Raging Bull. Without question.

I agree. It doesn’t work for me as either a sports film or a character study. The most interesting thing about the movie was the biblical quote that was in the beginning (or end?) of it.

Also "Scarface" was way overrated. "Carlito’s Way" was a much better film.

[weakside]

Another movie I was disappointed with was “No Country for Old Men”. Everything I have ever seen from the Coen brothers has been brilliant but this one was just flat. What I mean by that it was a “one trick pony” with the “Chance vs. Fate” theme that was embedded throughout the entire movie. It just got tedious after a while.

[fandango86]

I don't loathe No Country, but felt that it was a few interesting scenes strung together with quite a few uninteresting ones. Since Tommy Lee Jones didn't crack the case and really played no relevant part in the movie, I couldn't figure out the point of his scenes and eventually just began to speed through them to get back to the story.

Reservoir Dogs is a cult classic but I don't think anyone but Tarantino geeks call it 'great.' I would define 'great' movies as Oscar winners or at least nominees.

[MilkmanDan]

GodFather series I despise. Especially 1.
"Hey look at me, I'm Marlon Brando, son of Irish Immigrants and I'm playing a big wop"
Fucking boring movies. Tried several times.
I even chase my nieces around with oranges in my mouth, cant do it.

[jagsfans]

I would define 'great' movies as Oscar winners or at least nominees.

There are a ton of great movies that don't get oscar noms. I think a lot of cinema fans and critics would say "Diving Bell and the Butterfly", "I'm Not There" and "Once" from last year were the Great movies and they were not nominated.

[fandango86]

"Once" from last year were the Great movies and they were not nominated.

Ok, who besides Roland thought that movie was good?

[LiddyRules]

There are a ton of great movies that don't get oscar noms. I think a lot of cinema fans and critics would say "Diving Bell and the Butterfly", "I'm Not There" and "Once" from last year were the Great movies and they were not nominated. DBATB and INT did get a couple of nominations (though mostly not from the Oscars) but I thought both were fantastic.

[Vyce]

I hate all the Lord of the Rings movies. I found them tedious and uninteresting and a colossal waste of half a day of my life.

Wow, not me. I own all of the extended editions. Basically amounts to nearly 12 hours of film, and you know what? It's still too short for me. I could watch more.

Can't wait for those to hit Blu-Ray.

[Stormrider666]

There are a few that have already been mentioned that I"ve never seen in their entirety but can't stand them. One that I've seen the whole thing and just don't get what everyone thought was so great about it was Old School. So overrated

Only funny scene I remember from Old School, is the curse-filled version of "Total Eclipse of the Heart". Other than that, it started out well and just fell apart. Speaking of comedies, I saw Knocked Up recently and couldn't even finish it. Didn't understand the big deal people made about it. I'm watching SuperBad this weekend, hopefully the same thing doesn't happen.

Oh and since we are being open about Quentin Tarantino, I haven't been impressed with anything that came after Jackie Brown.

[ruckstande]

Kubrick and anything pretty much Wes Anderson has laid his hands on sucks. Fucking Bottle Racket was such pointless nonsense. And I don't give a fuck how original people think he is because every movie is like the last one. [Shitty Screen Font]-dysfunctional people-[Shitty Screen Font]-dysfunctional people-[Shitty Screen Font]-dysfunctional people. Same direction in all of his movies. They blow. Kubrick has a thing for long silence or slow moving scenes. I like Dr. Strangelove only because of the brilliance of Peter Sellers.

[WoodenPlank]

Wow, not me. I own all of the extended editions. Basically amounts to nearly 12 hours of film, and you know what? It's still too short for me. I could watch more.

Can't wait for those to hit Blu-Ray.

Agreed, with some minor Tolkien-geek gripes...
(There were no elves at Helm's Deep, where were the fucking Ents at Helm's Deep, Narsil was reforged MUCH sooner in the books, and they NEVER fucking explained the swords the hobbits had from the Barrows, and how that related to them being able to harm the Nazgul....do I really need to keep going?)

[jagsfans]

Ok, who besides Roland thought that movie was good?

Opie... and I also enjoyed it. I thought it was much better than Juno.

[commish13]

Wall-E.

It makes me sick that people actually think it makes a poignant statement about the American people and all of the terrible shit we do. Thing is, it says nothing that hasn't been said a million times before. A cartoon movie shouldn't make people think and make them realize what we're doing.

I'm listening to the newest SModcast, and even Kevin Smith said it. That saddens me.

It may be a good movie, but I have no interest in it, and I have even less and less every time somebody says that it "makes them think".

[shuganuts]

Never gave him much of a chance, but John Wayne? He Stinks and don't like his movies.

[DonTheTrucker]

Never gave him much of a chance, but John Wayne? He Stinks and don't like his movies.

Watch The Seekers then say that.

He wasn't a great actor, but those in those John Ford westerns he at least does a decent job.

[WhiskeyWhispers]

The Matrix movies. First one was tolerable, the last 2 sucked ass. They may have not been the first, but I blame those movies for all the techno-action/slo-mo bullet nonsense that pollutes so many movies. The Wachowski brothers blow. Both figuratively and literally.

[Steve McQueen]

Crash - Premise blew, acting sucked, movie swallowed.

The Godfather II - The reigning emperor of overrated films.

Old School - Not funny. Not even a little bit.

Titanic - Except for the falling guy's head smacking against the propeller, of course.

Shakespeare In Love - Snoozefest.

Annie Hall - Bananas was better.

Life of Brian - A few decent moments, but far from what Python was capable of.

Wedding Crashers - I could not understand why everyone else in the theater was cracking up.

Scarface - Terrible.

The Cider House Rules - A three-hour lecture on why anyone who opposes abortion for any reason is an idiot.

[Plunkies]

The Matrix movies. First one was tolerable, the last 2 sucked ass. They may have not been the first, but I blame those movies for all the techno-action/slo-mo bullet nonsense that pollutes so many movies. The Wachowski brothers blow. Both figuratively and literally.

Um, everyone thinks that. No one considers the second or third matrix to be great movies. In fact the third matrix might be one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

[jagsfans]

Um, everyone thinks that. No one considers the second or third matrix to be great movies. In fact the third matrix might be one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Yes, I know NO ONE who can defend the second one as anything more than a blowem up Popcorn Flick and the third one is a pure fucking embarrassment. Those scenes of them defending Zion makes me wanna vomit blood.

The first is AMAZING. Agent Smth's monologue while interrogating Morpheus is one of my favorite scenes of all time.

[LiddyRules]

Yes, I know NO ONE who can defend the second one as anything more than a blowem up Popcorn Flick and the third one is a pure fucking embarrassment. Those scenes of them defending Zion makes me wanna vomit blood. I actually didn't like the first one but my dislike of that was nothing compared to the pure shit that was 2+3.

I remember awhile ago there was like this ridiculously long thing on AICN analyzing Matrix 2 + 3 pretty much scene by scene in an attempt to show a) how smart they were and b) how dumb we were for not getting the beauty and brilliance of the story of Matrix 2 + 3. How ingeniously everything was intertwined. How Frenchy + Monica Belluci were the first Neo. And how dumb we were for not realizing that. No mention of why we needed a half hour rave scene. No mention of why the giant battle of Zion involved idiots standing in a Mech Warrior Suit firing blindly in the air for 20 minutes straight. I knew it was going to really such when Old Guy was talking to Matrix in number 1 of 40,000 Philosophy 101 Cliff Notes Discussions and their attempt at depth was
Old Guy: "We have machines here."
Neo: "So let's destroy machines."
Old Guy: "But without machines, we have no food."
Neo: "You just blew my mind."

However, I wil say the Matrix Revolutions rifftrax is probably one of the funniest RTs I've ever heard. (My car!)

[Sevenyars]

Wedding Crashers - I could not understand why everyone else in the theater was cracking up.



I agree with this. I also felt the same way about something about Mary.

[ChimneyFish]

Agreed, with some minor Tolkien-geek gripes...
(There were no elves at Helm's Deep, where were the fucking Ents at Helm's Deep, Narsil was reforged MUCH sooner in the books, and they NEVER fucking explained the swords the hobbits had from the Barrows, and how that related to them being able to harm the Nazgul....do I really need to keep going?)

1. Didn't understand that one either.

2. This one could have easily been done. And they should have had the Huorns at Helm's Deep and Isengard.

3. I hear ya,

4. The only reason I could see is that you would then HAVE to include Tom Bombadil, which would have not only prolonged the movie, but would have brought into a more "fairy tale/nursery rhyme" type of thing like the first half of the first book was.




The Cider House Rules - A three-hour lecture on why anyone who opposes abortion for any reason is an idiot.

In other words "a good point".:icon_wink

[silentbob8201]

Wow, not me. I own all of the extended editions. Basically amounts to nearly 12 hours of film, and you know what? It's still too short for me. I could watch more.

Can't wait for those to hit Blu-Ray.

Same here, that way i dont have to get up off my tired ass half way thru to change discs.

[silentbob8201]

Watch The Seekers then say that.

He wasn't a great actor, but those in those John Ford westerns he at least does a decent job.

I prefer the Searchers.:action-sm

[ShavedLebaneseBear]

Finally got around to Netflixing a whole lot of the "O&A recommened" movies and some other "classics"...


Boring:

Raging Bull
Midnight Cowboy
Godfather II (fell alseep)
Clockwork Orange
Fargo
Deer Hunter
No Country For Old Men
The Graduate
Taxi Driver (except the ending)


Just plain weak:

It's a Wonderful Life
Scarface (a 3 hour long episode of Miami Vice)
Casino Royal (I did like that Bond was a "rookie" in it, but otherwise it was nothing special)
2nd and (somewhat) 3rd Indiana Jones movies


Sacred movies to the Interwebz geeks, that I think suck:


Mall Rats (Jason Lee sucks at acting, except maybe for "My Name is Earl")
The Big Lebowski
Old School
Hackers
Any of the Monty Python movies
Office Space (to a lesser extent)

[kloraferm]

I used to enjoy it when I was about 3-4 yrs old, but I can't even make it through Wizard of Oz anymore. Another one that I keep hearing about that I've never gotten the appeal of was It's A Wonderful Life. The list goes on, but those are the 1st 2 I can think of right now.

[Jim T.]

Another vote for Crash. What a condescending, manipulative pile of shit.

[ChimneyFish]

I have to see Crash now.
If only to see what all the hubub is about.

[silentbob8201]

I have to see Crash now.
If only to see what all the hubub is about.

I never openly laughed at a small child getting "shot" in a movie before but just wait its fucking hilarious.

[LiddyRules]

I have to see Crash now.
If only to see what all the hubub is about.

"I'm a white guy who dislikes black people but am good at heart."
"I'm a black guy who makes fun of black people. I know, bet you've never heard of shit like that before."
"I'm District Attorney Brendan Fraser who doesn't trust a Latino fixing my lock. Makes you think about things doesn't it?"
"I'm a black guy who feels bad for some Chinese people heading towards the yanky cranky shop. Even though you thought I was soulless earlier because I ripped off a car, it turns out that I actually do have a heart."
"Every person has literally two sides. One is a slobbering bigot ready to lynch people at the drop of a hat. The other cares for human beings. See, we are complex people."

There, now you don't need to see it.

[sd187]

crash, manchurian candidate, cries and whispers, klute, the leopard, out of the past, stalag 17, the third man.

[Stormrider666]

With all this hate towards Crash, wonder why Hollywood would want to make a TV series out of it.

[LiddyRules]

With all this hate towards Crash, wonder why Hollywood would want to make a TV series out of it.

Because it was a success and won many awards and people seemed to like it. Besides, it's Wackbag, we hate black people. I know Showtime ordered a pilot but I don't know if it was picked up.

[Stormrider666]

Because it was a success and won many awards and people seemed to like it. Besides, it's Wackbag, we hate black people. I know Showtime ordered a pilot but I don't know if it was picked up.

Showtime must have passed, because its debuting on Starz in September. I saw the scene, with Brendan Fraser and the locksmith. That's all I needed to see, to know what a pile of shit the movie was.

[Sack of Chisels]

Finally got around to Netflixing a whole lot of the "O&A recommened" movies and some other "classics"...


Boring:

Fargo


Wow, man. I'm not a Coen fanboy like some, but I can still say that Fargo plain rules.

[Eagle.007]

I just watched Fargo for the first time earlier. I don't loathe it, but didn't really like it either.

[Garyisajoke]

I just watched Fargo for the first time earlier. I don't loathe it, but didn't really like it either.

Indifferent is how I felt about it the first go-around, too. Watch it again in a month or so. For some reason, it gets better.

[LiddyRules]

A lot of these movies need several go arounds to fully appreciate them. I had seen and not cared for Apocalypse Now twice and then I saw it third time on cable (unedited) at like 2 in the morning one night and it just clicked. Taxi Driver was one I enjoyed the first time but not until multiple showings that I fully appreciated it and now it's my favorite Scorsese.

The thing with "great" movies, in my opinion, is that they take it upon themselves to develop a universe. Even if it's 99.9999% our universe there's always that .00001% that's off and you have to get used to that world before you can finally "get" the movie and the first or second go around you're paying too much attention to the plot to pick up the nuances.

[ChimneyFish]

Indifferent is how I felt about it the first go-around, too. Watch it again in a month or so. For some reason, it gets better.

The only time I saw it, I was in the illustrious Eagleville Hospital, going through heroin withdraw.
Needless to say, I really don't have an opinion on it.
Fargo is one I have to see again.

[THE FEZ MAN]

A lot of these movies need several go arounds to fully appreciate them. I had seen and not cared for Apocalypse Now twice and then I saw it third time on cable (unedited) at like 2 in the morning one night and it just clicked. Taxi Driver was one I enjoyed the first time but not until multiple showings that I fully appreciated it and now it's my favorite Scorsese.

The thing with "great" movies, in my opinion, is that they take it upon themselves to develop a universe. Even if it's 99.9999% our universe there's always that .00001% that's off and you have to get used to that world before you can finally "get" the movie and the first or second go around you're paying too much attention to the plot to pick up the nuances.

yep. ive had several films that i was that way about. clock work orange was one of them, i watched it 4 or 5 times on and off, finally one time i sat down and watched it from beginning to end and "got it" fargo is that way, and so is apocalypse now one of the things that helped me with that film was the documentery that was shot about it while they were filming it, i think it was called "heart of darkness"

[Ronreddog]

83. Titanic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_%281997_film%29) (1997)

I actually sat through this in a theatre with my ex, because SHE wanted to see it. I think I actually fell asleep at some point.

[ChimneyFish]

yep. ive had several films that i was that way about. clock work orange was one of them, i watched it 4 or 5 times on and off, finally one time i sat down and watched it from beginning to end and "got it" fargo is that way, and so is apocalypse now one of the things that helped me with that film was the documentery that was shot about it while they were filming it, i think it was called "heart of darkness"

Apocalypse I still have to see.

Clockwork is one I'm going to have to sit down and watch again. I've seen it a few times, but it was many a year ago, and I haven't seen it without being under the influence of something.

[Absolutely]

You know what movie I think BLOWS, and is probably in everyone's top 10, "American History X"

It stinks, It's incredibly boring, I can't stand Norton's brother's stupid voice, it's just not good...
I like seeing Norton fucked in the shower, and of course there's the Curbing scene. "Dude, that scene where he stomps that guy's head is fucking awesome!"
Is It?

It was on FX tonight, and I had to sit through some of it at a friend's house.
I'd rather watch an Extenze infomercial.

[Turfmower]

Jurassic Park
Lord of the Rings

[Bobobie]

Since they were mentioned.
2001 Space odyssey
Full Metal Jacket (Hate Matthew Modine)
No Country For Old Men

Also
The Departed
Raging Bull (never saw it, have no desire to see it)
Star Wars (I hate that whole universe and I'm SCIFI fan)