OA off WEDG/Buffalo&KHYT/Tucson and almost off WAQX(95X)/Syracuse&WKLQ/Grand Rapids

[SOS]

FMQB (http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=790573)


In Brief - July 14, 2008
July 14, 2008

Citadel has tweaked the format at WAQX (95X)/Syracuse from Classic/Mainstream to Active Rock, dropping Opie & Anthony as its morning show in the process. O&A were also close to being dropped from WEDG/Buffalo, according to comments made by the duo this morning on their program.

Meanwhile, the Philadelphia Inquirer reports "speculation abounds that Opie & Anthony, who did two tours of duty on WYSP (94.1), will return to the rock station for mornings. Not so, says a WYSP source."


WAQX - 95X Rock Radio (http://www.waqx.com/)

WEDG - 103.3 FM Buffalo, NY. (http://www.wedg.com/)

94WYSP // Philly's Rock Station // (http://www.94wysp.com/)


Syracuse
Dan Austin
dan.austin@citcomm.com

Buffalo
Chet Osadchey
chet.osadchey@citcomm.com

Worcester
Bonnie Gomes
bonnie.gomes@citcomm.com

[Dickieboy]

CBS is a sinking ship too ...Come on XM , pull it together .

[mattiew23m]

PHONE CALLS AND MASSIVE EMAILS. NOT ATTACKS, BUT JUST STATING THAT YOU WANT O&A ON THOSE STATIONS. WOW, I missed some of the show on the way to work, I did not realize they ALMOST lost buffalo too, so its a matter of time, before they lose buffalo. Who knows if they are actually going to get YSP back. These are scary times, especially with the chance the there will be no XM.
ALSO KEEP CALLING XM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And if they are going to go out, they have to go out with a bang! Something no one will forget... "A real Dousey!" WE ALL NEED TO ACT FAST

[sd187]

i dont get it. i thought they were doing well in teh ratings.

[jsav]

Opie and Anthony canceled in my town?! No way. Good thing I listen on XM. However, I have friends that listen to O&A on 95X in the morning because they're too cheap to buy XM. O&A and Lucy (XM54, 90s Alt) are my last saving graces to my XM subscription. Damn, this can't be happening :hamm:

[FanboYecchh]

PHONE CALLS AND MASSIVE EMAILS. NOT ATTACKS, BUT JUST STATING THAT YOU WANT O&A ON THOSE STATIONS.


I sent an email to Alexis with a picture of a big cock and plastered "Bring back opie and Anthony" all over it......does that count? Just wanna do my part!

Shut up and rock - in my pants. LIG LIG

[blacknoi]

Its simple math unfortunately, O and A weren't doing ON FIRE ratings. They were doing well, but not fantastic.... keep in mind, this is management's view of their ratings.

Regardless of if the ratings will be better or not, the music show is SO CHEAP to produce, they'll make up the difference and more just by not having to pay to carry O and A.

The ratings will go down, but again, its still cheaper to drop the O and A expense, and pick up practically for nothing, some DJ to spin records. Sad but true.

Combine that with less than stellar ad rates, and companies tighten the belt, to the point of dropping a show doing well, just to save a few bux :(

[Lunchbox420]

I sent an email to Alexis with a picture of a big cock and plastered "Bring back opie and Anthony" all over it......does that count? Just wanna do my part!

Shut up and rock - in my pants. LIG LIG

Useless without pics...No homo

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[The Full Bug]

Opie and Anthony canceled in my town?!


It's more likely than you think.

[FanboYecchh]

the sweethearted cunty sent me a reply this afternoon simply saying, "thanks for emailing"

well 'tanks fer nuttin!

die

[Stalker Patti]

Isn't it funny to note that the "suits" who make all the decisions and know so much about what the "needs" are regarding stations are the very ones who never even LISTEN in the first place.

[Griff Tannen]

hoooow did it happen? I was just talking to them

[thekidslepthere]

What about when Opie mentioned they be adding "a city to be named at a future time" then Jimmy jumped in with "does it rhyme with Pos Mangeles?"

One could only hope there is some truth to that.

I live in LA and I see zero interest in the Adam Carolla show. I don't know how it is still on the air.

[Polack]

Fuck FM, XM all the way baby. They said it themselves, "FM has no clue".

[Little Chuckie]

Fuck FM, XM all the way baby. They said it themselves, "FM has no clue".

With no contract at XM, then we might be in deep shit very soon.

[FanboYecchh]

yeah, are the boys fucked.....like proper fucked? What's the situation? If they get dropped from XM, is the SNV getting bumped too?

[scarface68]

Opie and Anthony canceled in my town?! No way. Good thing I listen on XM. However, I have friends that listen to O&A on 95X in the morning because they're too cheap to buy XM. O&A and Lucy (XM54, 90s Alt) are my last saving graces to my XM subscription. Damn, this can't be happening :hamm:

Quite a disappointing move by 95x - used to listen to 95x all the time growing up - and was happy to be able to listen to O&A when I travel back home. Lost a lot of respect for 95x with this move. Will have to pack my XM when I travel back now - only XM channel I listen to and if the show leaves XM so do I. :arrrh:

[Edible Napalm]

Doomed, mother fucking doomed.

[al885]

theyre popular in buffalo. fuckin blows.

[boardsofcanada]

they are SO fucked...as opie would say.

kind of

[XMScott]

Its a good thing i dont live in either of those cities.

[frankw]

theyre popular in buffalo. fuckin blows.

I thought Buffalo had great ratings (one of the better markets) :huh:

[your kiddin]

dont worry they still have elo to take care of them and a good xmcontract
wait a second

[unklewilly]

when you refer to the word "douchebag" as the D.B. word and cant say "he goes poop" why the fuck does anyone want to listen to an "edgy" morning show? I cant even be bothered to listen to FM radio anymore with how bad the suits have fucking ruined regular radio these days. If O&A arent on XM radio anymore...I...I just dont know what Ill do with myself. I certainly wont go fuck my mother after buying a Sirius unit that s for fucking sure.

[boardsofcanada]

when you refer to the word "douchebag" as the D.B. word and cant say "he goes poop" why the fuck does anyone want to listen to an "edgy" morning show? I cant even be bothered to listen to FM radio anymore with how bad the suits have fucking ruined regular radio these days. If O&A arent on XM radio anymore...I...I just dont know what Ill do with myself. I certainly wont go fuck my mother after buying a Sirius unit that s for fucking sure.

qft

Fuck...how many stations are they still on now?

[boardsofcanada]

according to wikipedia that would leave only 9 markets left on FM

and half of them are smaller markets.

I knew when they lost Philly that was going to start a domino effect.

[Rackrunner]

What about when Opie mentioned they be adding "a city to be named at a future time" then Jimmy jumped in with "does it rhyme with Pos Mangeles?"

One could only hope there is some truth to that.

I live in LA and I see zero interest in the Adam Carolla show. I don't know how it is still on the air.Didn't Carolla just sign a new contract over the winter? I remember he had some holdout until they seperated him and Bonaduce. I thought his contract was redone at the time.

[BuffaloTom]

Its simple math unfortunately, O and A weren't doing ON FIRE ratings. They were doing well, but not fantastic.... keep in mind, this is management's view of their ratings.

Regardless of if the ratings will be better or not, the music show is SO CHEAP to produce, they'll make up the difference and more just by not having to pay to carry O and A.

The ratings will go down, but again, its still cheaper to drop the O and A expense, and pick up practically for nothing, some DJ to spin records. Sad but true.

Combine that with less than stellar ad rates, and companies tighten the belt, to the point of dropping a show doing well, just to save a few bux :(


They're #1 with men in Buffalo.

[dms964]

Didn't Carolla just sign a new contract over the winter? I remember he had some holdout until they seperated him and Bonaduce. I thought his contract was redone at the time.


Carolla did resign last winter and is not going anywhere. While not hugely popular, he draws decent ratings and is on in about a dozen markets.

[Arsenalroy2k]

Might as well add KHYT 107.5 in Tucson, AZ to that list of stations that have dropped O&A. It wasn't on yesterday or today over here and when I called the radio station to ask what was going on, the person I talked to said that she had no clue what was going on and "hadn't heard word one" about the situation.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Possibly Grand Rapids, too. WKLQ is/was their Citadel station there, and if they're still mentioned anywhere on the website, I can't find it.

http://www.wklq.com/


EDIT: It looks like they're still on but not completely. The song history shows Rage at 6:03 AM, and no other music until 9AM...except for three songs in the 7AM hour. :huh: Maybe the system that determines what songs were played picked up something from a commercial?

[mattiew23m]

Possibly Grand Rapids, too. WKLQ is/was their Citadel station there, and if they're still mentioned anywhere on the website, I can't find it.

http://www.wklq.com/


EDIT: It looks like they're still on but not completely. The song history shows Rage at 6:03 AM, and no other music until 9AM...except for three songs in the 7AM hour. :huh: Maybe the system that determines what songs were played picked up something from a commercial?

WOW NOT EVEN A SINGLE MENTION THAT THEY EXIST.. I have a bad bad feeling they are only going to be left with NYC at the end of all this. Hopefully not, but its just a gut feeling. I guess, listening through phones, and online will be the only way to go. This really really does suck. I hope the people at Xm do something!

[Pearce]

What's wrong with radio? This has to be a behind-the-scenes vendetta against them. There's no reason for them to be in such a fucked up spot at this point in their career.

Edit: Just called that Grand Rapids station, asked why they weren't on the website and she said it's been that way and she doesn't know why. I mentioned that they were dropped in syracuse and tucson, she said she was aware, I asked if there was any chance they might get dropped in Grand Rapids and she said not to her knowledge.

So basically I have no fucking information at all.

[mattiew23m]

What's wrong with radio? This has to be a behind-the-scenes vendetta against them. There's no reason for them to be in such a fucked up spot at this point in their career.

Its so weird. A few weeks ago they mentioned PPM. They mentioned how they pretty much had the best ratings in NYC ever. They were also #1 in buffalo. Other markets the ratings were going up as well. THE NYRMB were also mentioning how well they have made the transition on Fm radio now, and that the show has been really great. They were also having a BLAST on Xm. The show's were great. Great news for Ant, and Jill. Great guests. The return of dice on the show. And just amazing radio. On the top of they're game. Annnnnnnnnd now they might lose xm, and they are losing affiliate markets left and right. It does seem very weird..

[BigFeet]

the sweethearted cunty sent me a reply this afternoon simply saying, "thanks for emailing"

well 'tanks fer nuttin!

die

I didn't get a reply from the cunt. 95x sucks a fat dick anyways. They could've at least put Paulie on in the mornings (used to work with Scorch), but no, they bury him on the weekends and put an unfunny fatso on.

Fuck off 95X

[SOS]

Tucson
Ken Kowalcek
ken.kowalcek@citcomm.com

Grand Rapids
Matt Hanlon
matt.hanlon@citcomm.com

[mattiew23m]

Tucson
Ken Kowalcek
ken.kowalcek@citcomm.com

Grand Rapids
Matt Hanlon
matt.hanlon@citcomm.com

Done, just asked legit questions, and remained professional. The attacks will come, if they were yanked for no reason.

[boardsofcanada]

holy shit more? wow.

[richwithhatred]

I'm not starting the same ol' shit here, but do want to point out that all buzz on the show stopped just about the time they got settled in at FM (ie: 3 months after things faded down from the news of the return). The boys, prior to returning to FM, had a lot of heat on them...more in fact than the queen of all media had at that point. CBS has taken 3/4 of their show every day and turned it into the long form version of Robin's news. Want proof...go no further than today's show, where they again referenced the stripper pole and how they aren't allowed to use it. Maybe I'm wrong, but the last segment that was done on CBS was when ERock punched that listener in the asshole...how long ago was that? The boys do their best to provide edge because they are edgy people, but ultimately the show on CBS is exactly what everyone feared - the censored, ruined show with little flow that is designed to entertain EVERYONE, instead of grownups...and specifically grown ups with that certain sense of humor we all have.

Honestly, the CBS deal was good for the boys' financial career, but in the grand scheme of things, it is just another monumental XM management fuckup. The truth is the truth, and if the show had not gone back to FM and had stayed the course they started on XM, they would have Sirius by the balls now that the merger is coming. Instead, this constant attempt to try to leverage FM vs. XM is gonna leave the boys taking less money on either contract than they are due.

I said it then and I'll say it again now, FM AND Satellite are both going to fall to wifi radio in the near future. With that being said, the boys would be best suited to do the most cutting edge show in the medium available to them. Think about society. People switched from boxing to UFC because it's more brutal. 20 million people worshipped howard stern years ago because it was more brutal than the horseshit out there. People would rather watch YouTube than TV now because it's more raw and real. The suits at radio have one goal...money. Unfortunately, they are trying to protect it instead of making it.

[Pearce]

I think Howard was right. He said that radio didn't want to have all the power in one show again after he was gone, they signed O&A by flashing a ton of great markets in front of them that they were given to save. Once they were on board they slowly started taking markets away (frog in water theory) and here we are over 2 years later and after re-signing 3 months ago they're now able to take away even more markets since they don't have to try to appeal to them to keep them. It's fucked up.

[mattiew23m]

ehhhh when O&A are gone. Talk radio is DONE for me. If wifi takes off, I am there!

[baluku]

Wasn't the contract at FM signed THROUGH XM?

In other words, FM pays XM for using the show. Now that XM is in the toilet, it makes sense for FM to reduce the value of the show if they feel they may go into negotiations with the boys (thus FM retains power during the negotiations). On the other hand, if all this is true, maybe CBS does not want to deal with Sirius and Mel.

[frankw]

Wasn't the contract at FM signed THROUGH XM?

In other words, FM pays XM for using the show. Now that XM is in the toilet, it makes sense for FM to reduce the value of the show if they feel they may go into negotiations with the boys (thus FM retains power during the negotiations). On the other hand, if all this is true, maybe CBS does not want to deal with Sirius and Mel.


Citadel is dumping the show in markets recently not CBS (although they dumped as well)

You think FM (CBS/Citadel, etc.) are dumping them from stations so they can get them at a lower price & then put them back on the same stations again?

[oandapartycock]

zero...point...zero.

[Dow]

They were dropped in Conn, awhile ago, they didn't even mention it, was a little sad about that, its like they didnt care! I can't see why they cant stay on XM/Sirus after the merger, they wont be competing anymore, so who gives a shit if there are two "shock jock" shows. Plus if the two companies are struggling, why would you pay that douche HOO HOO 100 mill a year when you can get the boys for like half that (perhaps less than that....). One positive is that R&F look safe. If O&A&J do get bounced, I can't ditch XM, fuckin FM sucks balls, can't go back man, I can't!

[Gonzoid]

Its so weird. A few weeks ago they mentioned PPM. They mentioned how they pretty much had the best ratings in NYC ever. They were also #1 in buffalo. Other markets the ratings were going up as well. THE NYRMB were also mentioning how well they have made the transition on Fm radio now, and that the show has been really great. They were also having a BLAST on Xm. The show's were great. Great news for Ant, and Jill. Great guests. The return of dice on the show. And just amazing radio. On the top of they're game. Annnnnnnnnd now they might lose xm, and they are losing affiliate markets left and right. It does seem very weird..

Interesting points. I think the show has been very funny with all the guys on their A games for some time. While the lawyers at CBS have totally diluted the edginess of the show, the bottom line is...funny will always be funny. They still put on a very funny and entertaining show while dancing around the censors.

I cannot help, though, but be worried about their future [ Well, they are rich...so not their futue per se, but more my future of having entertaining radio to listen to]. It sounds like XM is being engulfed by Sirius and they have very few supporters left to fight for them...not having their extension renewed is not a positive either. And they are dropping stations on FM...honestly, when was the last time we heard of them adding a new station? it has to be 2 years at this point.

[Phi Mu Alpha]

with no contract at xm, then we might be in deep shit very soon.

doomed, mother fucking doomed.

was it over when the germans bombed preal harbor? Hell no and what the going gets tough the tough get going

[Kurto2021]

Wasnt that about the same time as the Annapolis tea party

[dms964]

I can't see why they cant stay on XM/Sirus after the merger, they wont be competing anymore, so who gives a shit if there are two "shock jock" shows. Plus if the two companies are struggling, why would you pay that douche HOO HOO 100 mill a year when you can get the boys for like half that (perhaps less than that....).


This has nothing to do with Sirius or Stern, this is all XM. They are broke, without this merger they are done for. XM is trying to cut their cash outlays whereever and whenever they can right now. This just had 400 million dollars in debt they were unable to pay, so they redid the loan but their interest rate went from 1% to 10%. Companies paying rates that high are in big trouble. This is not a good time to have contract issues with XM.
And your perhaps less than half line has to be a joke. I'd guess you could divide Stern's pay by twenty to get O&A's pay from XM.

[Phi Mu Alpha]

Wasnt that about the same time as the Annapolis tea party

I'm not sure I've got to check with Professor Anthony

[baluku]

Citadel is dumping the show in markets recently not CBS (although they dumped as well)

You think FM (CBS/Citadel, etc.) are dumping them from stations so they can get them at a lower price & then put them back on the same stations again?

Kind of. I know that it sounds stupid but I read a case study of a corporation doing something similar in a business class once. I thought that no one would ever do that until years later I saw a company that I worked for do exactly that. They devalued an organization that they had some power over so that they could buy out at reduced price and then they re-invested in it. They ended up making MILLIONS now that the company is back "in the black".

(Rev Al, I apologize for referencing the color black without your specific approval. I know that you control all references to black and that I am the wrong skin tone to use such a comment. I am sure that you are outraged.)

[baluku]

You are right though that it's citadel and not CBS so there goes my theory & question.

[Arsenalroy2k]

Well, I finally heard back from one of the people at the Tucson station, the guy that DJs their 6-9 show:

"Their deal with the radio station expired and the suits decided not to pick it up. Now it's just big piles of Classic Hits between 3a-6a when Val and I come in."

Shut up and rock indeed.

[mattiew23m]

hmmmm well if it ends up just being new york, I guess that's what we will have to take. Everyone just stick with wifi to listen to the show. Put the show on your Ipod to catch a replay.. I am still holding out a little hope that they make this merger. O&A have not given any orders, so I am sure super agent bob eatman is working on something.

[frankw]

Kind of. I know that it sounds stupid but I read a case study of a corporation doing something similar in a business class once. I thought that no one would ever do that until years later I saw a company that I worked for do exactly that. They devalued an organization that they had some power over so that they could buy out at reduced price and then they re-invested in it. They ended up making MILLIONS now that the company is back "in the black".

(Rev Al, I apologize for referencing the color black without your specific approval. I know that you control all references to black and that I am the wrong skin tone to use such a comment. I am sure that you are outraged.)


I was implying it was stupid and I actually understand the theory but with radio all that would do is make the product (in this case O&A) look bad because it is so public

[mattiew23m]

I was implying it was stupid and I actually understand the theory but with radio all that would do is make the product (in this case O&A) look bad because it is so public

Frank I agree that it does look bad on this. Here it is, I tuned into O&A at work, and a few people said, "I heard they are losing all the stations they were on, because they are not doing so well" I tried to explain the Citadel situation. Did not WORK. A lot of people do not read up on the radio industry, so they will go with what's easy. They will just think, Opie and Anthony are not doing well, and are losing stations. It sucks, because that is NOT the truth, but try convincing the general public of this. This whole situation with FM, and Xm sucks! Xm is practically broke, and Citadel stock is in the shitter.

[thekidslepthere]

So the deal's with Citadel seem to be expiring. We only know the O&A side of it, so who knows if they didn't try as hard they could to renew them.

With this XM deal not being renewed and only 70 something days remaining I wonder if they are up to something else. I still think there is some plan in the background to find out how to get a fourth hour on the FM side, maybe it's not live, but I still think that is needed. They will see a rather large bump in the ratings and if it that happens it will open up more doors.

So maybe get "cut" from a couple Citadel stations now, watch their ratings tank, pick up the fourth hour on FM and watch their own ratings shoot up, go back to Citadel and ask for more money. This is the job of an agent, sometimes it doesn't work, but when it does it's usually worth it.

And I've never bought the whole Mel mandate of saying they don't need shows available on terrestrial, if that was so why would they spend so much on sports? I'm going to stay calm and wait for the best.

[frankw]

Frank I agree that it does look bad on this. Here it is, I tuned into O&A at work, and a few people said, "I heard they are losing all the stations they were on, because they are not doing so well" I tried to explain the Citadel situation. Did not WORK. A lot of people do not read up on the radio industry, so they will go with what's easy. They will just think, Opie and Anthony are not doing well, and are losing stations. It sucks, because that is NOT the truth, but try convincing the general public of this. This whole situation with FM, and Xm sucks! Xm is practically broke, and Citadel stock is in the shitter.


All valid points
I think this was one of those times all the "hype" & "publicity" hurt. They weren't just a radio show building a fanbase but they were knighted the saviors for the stations that were hurt by Stern leaving. I said from the beginning that would hurt them. If they did not come in so "big" & with a high price they could have stayed under the radar while building an audience and mediocre-good ratings wouldn't be considered a dissapointment. Some is O&A's fault because the welcomed it but who wouldn't get caught up in being that positive.

[mattiew23m]

So the deal's with Citadel seem to be expiring. We only know the O&A side of it, so who knows if they didn't try as hard they could to renew them.

With this XM deal not being renewed and only 70 something days remaining I wonder if they are up to something else. I still think there is some plan in the background to find out how to get a fourth hour on the FM side, maybe it's not live, but I still think that is needed. They will see a rather large bump in the ratings and if it that happens it will open up more doors.

So maybe get "cut" from a couple Citadel stations now, watch their ratings tank, pick up the fourth hour on FM and watch their own ratings shoot up, go back to Citadel and ask for more money. This is the job of an agent, sometimes it doesn't work, but when it does it's usually worth it.

And I've never bought the whole Mel mandate of saying they don't need shows available on terrestrial, if that was so why would they spend so much on sports? I'm going to stay calm and wait for the best.

For a few months now, they have been doing an extra hour of O&A on krock with music thrown in. Basically the highlights from the show, or the really early stuff that people may have slept through. I believe that was stunt brains idea, along with playing O&A at 05:00am. So, on krock in NYC the schedule is basically 05:00am - 10:00am. The 05:00am hour does NOT have music, and I think the 09:00 hour should be a worst of with NO MUSIC.
But, stuntbrain has been doing an excellent job

[thekidslepthere]

For a few months now, they have been doing an extra hour of O&A on krock with music thrown in. Basically the highlights from the show, or the really early stuff that people may have slept through. I believe that was stunt brains idea, along with playing O&A at 05:00am. So, on krock in NYC the schedule is basically 05:00am - 10:00am. The 05:00am hour does NOT have music, and I think the 09:00 hour should be a worst of with NO MUSIC.
But, stuntbrain has been doing an excellent job

Oh that's cool to know. Living in LA I miss these things, but I'll be in Jersey next week without my XM so it will be nice to have the extra hour.

Have they been doing this for the last ratings book? Do you think that's where the bump came from?

[mattiew23m]

All valid points
I think this was one of those times all the "hype" & "publicity" hurt. They weren't just a radio show building a fanbase but they were knighted the saviors for the stations that were hurt by Stern leaving. I said from the beginning that would hurt them. If they did not come in so "big" & with a high price they could have stayed under the radar while building an audience and mediocre-good ratings wouldn't be considered a dissapointment. Some is O&A's fault because the welcomed it but who wouldn't get caught up in being that positive.

Of course, when they jumped into it, they knew that the radio climate changed. But, they found out more CRAP changed as they went along. And then it just continued to get worse. It was sorta like this frank, here ya go you are back on fm, and you have to follow these rules. O&A "Ok, we got it!" Then, day after day they were told they could not do this or that. You can't have naked girls in studio. You can't plug websites. You can not do this contest, and so on. They remembered the NEW days, and how well they did on Fm.

With that being said, I think they have been doing an amazing job on Fm considering the restrictions. When your not even allowed to say FART or Scumbag, they do a lot with what they can work with. I still enjoy the fm, and the xm part of the show. And, I hope they continue to entertain me in the morning. One thing is for sure, I will be listening till the end..

[mattiew23m]

Oh that's cool to know. Living in LA I miss these things, but I'll be in Jersey next week without my XM so it will be nice to have the extra hour.

Have they been doing this for the last ratings book? Do you think that's where the bump came from?

Could be, they call it a contractual agreement (as a joke).. I actually listen on Fm to support the PPM. I basically, tune into Fm on the way to work, listen online on oandaradio.com till about 09:20 or so, and then I flip to XM. If, something really good was dumped out of, I will catch it on the replay :)

[gollybob]

Citadel can cut their costs by getting rid of O&A, but if that reduces the number of their listeners, what is the point?

[mattiew23m]

Citadel can cut their costs by getting rid of O&A, but if that reduces the number of their listeners, what is the point?

They will see what happens in the end.. Its gonna be a bloodbath. Citadel is going to just GO AWAY. Internet is the future anyway. Everyone basically listens to what they want online, ipod, and other ways. Wifi is gonna be where its at.. Now, the question is, will people pay?

[thekidslepthere]

Now, the question is, will people pay?

I don't think we'll have to pay, I think radio will evolve into this wi-fi/wimax/3G/4G mix.

Just look at the Iphone in the next ten years every new car will have something similar.

Everyone will have it and it will go back to advertising based. The talent that deserves it will make the money back from ads like the good old days.

And we'll all be saving 13 bucks a month.

[sd187]

forgive my ignorance, but what's a "wi-fi/wimax/3G/4G mix"? Thanks.

[buffcomic]

your mom's box.....sniff

[squigy0]

O&A are not showing on www.wklq.com now. They are still showing on The Edge.

[Phi Mu Alpha]

Well, I finally heard back from one of the people at the Tucson station, the guy that DJs their 6-9 show:

Shut up and rock indeed.

Lets face it CBS is going to be all Shut up n Rock

[thekidslepthere]

forgive my ignorance, but what's a "wi-fi/wimax/3G/4G mix"? Thanks.

Just what O&A have been talking about with being able to pick up radio stations from all over the country on your Iphone.

3G is the current high speed standard for the internet on your phone, 4G the next generation of it.

Wimax is like Wi-Fi, but instead of a couple hundred feet one tower can supposedly beam to like a fifty square mile area.

Sprint is partnering with some company called Clearwire (I think that's it) to role out Wimax.

Google is launching a cell phone operating system called Android to compete with Iphones, Blackberrys, and Windows Mobile. It will be able to do everything an Iphone can and most likely a whole hell of a lot more.

I really think Sirius and XM will be useless in the next 5-10 years because our phones and cars will be able to pick up any radio station you want.

[SOS]

So now O&A are off Buffalo and are on Syracuse?

[Pearce]

Opie said they're not heard in Syracuse yet but will be getting it back, also a caller said something about "after you lost Philly" and Opie said "They'll do the right thing with Philly sooner than later."

[DonTheTrucker]

I think Howard was right. He said that radio didn't want to have all the power in one show again after he was gone, they signed O&A by flashing a ton of great markets in front of them that they were given to save. Once they were on board they slowly started taking markets away (frog in water theory) and here we are over 2 years later and after re-signing 3 months ago they're now able to take away even more markets since they don't have to try to appeal to them to keep them. It's fucked up.

Haven't other people also said the same thing? Howie may be a douche, but he knows the radio business.

[DonTheTrucker]

I really think Sirius and XM will be useless in the next 5-10 years because our phones and cars will be able to pick up any radio station you want.

Ding ding ding....we have a winner. FM and HD Radio won't be going anywhere, but the majority of America will be covered by wifi within 10-15 years.

[Nortons Dumps]

Put them back on Buffalo.... FUCK that hick city Syracuse.....

[mattiew23m]

KEEP O&A ON IN BUFFALO http://www.wedg.com/contactus.asp

[SoxandPats84]

WOW NOT EVEN A SINGLE MENTION THAT THEY EXIST.. I have a bad bad feeling they are only going to be left with NYC at the end of all this. Hopefully not, but its just a gut feeling. I guess, listening through phones, and online will be the only way to go. This really really does suck. I hope the people at Xm do something!


I don't think O&A were ever mentioned on WKLQ's website. I remember looking at it over a year ago, and seeing nothing.

[shwoogie]

With that being said, I think they have been doing an amazing job on Fm considering the restrictions. When your not even allowed to say FART or Scumbag, they do a lot with what they can work with. I still enjoy the fm, and the xm part of the show. And, I hope they continue to entertain me in the morning. One thing is for sure, I will be listening till the end..

I still don't understand the scumbag thing. Since when is scum a bad word?

[The Full Bug]

I still don't understand the scumbag thing. Since when is scum a bad word?


The only thing I can think of is the fact that "scumbag" used to be a term for a condom - but Jesus, what is this, 1955?

[Yepper]

Thanks

[nygoalie]

Just what O&A have been talking about with being able to pick up radio stations from all over the country on your Iphone.

I really think Sirius and XM will be useless in the next 5-10 years because our phones and cars will be able to pick up any radio station you want.

Great. So we can listen to Oregon's Shut Up & Rock Show on my iPhone.

Let's face it. Radio is a poor man's medium, and O&A are not a poor man's show. Now, Los Gregorio and Antonio's Hot MegaMixx Zoo? Prints pesos.

The boys' time may be up. TV, failed. Virus Tour, minimized. Fm, failing. XM, dying. Good things don't last forever.

[krisko]

hehe

here's the email i sent to KLQ's pd

Mr. Grey,

I am an XM subscriber so I will not be inconvenienced by having to listen to ‘Grey and Kluck’ in the mornings (you’re ‘Grey’, is that right?), but I think that taking Opie and Anthony off the air in favor of whatever brand of local jock hackery Mr. Grey and Mr. Kluck have to offer is a huge mistake. I suppose it will be great fun, since we all know what ‘Kluck’ rhymes with. I’m sure there will be times when he’s a ‘motherklucker’, and others when he tells stories about the KLQ Rock Girls he’s ‘klucked’, but the novelty of that will wear off very quickly and you’ll be stuck with three hours of heated Grand Rapids Griffins discussion.

Good luck bro.

Warmest regards,

Krisko


and his response...not the poor grammar:
K-

Your not-so-lightly veiled insults aside I assure you that O&A were taken off the air due to poor ratings – as they were, by far, the lowest rated program on KLQ for 2 years straight.

As for the new show, and it is exactly 3 days old, it will continue to grow and evolve as time goes on and thus far the vast majority of the feedback has been positive. I’m sorry to hear that you don’t feel the same way but I would be willing to bet if you check in from time to time that you will grow to enjoy the product we put out there.

Thanks for the feedback as any and all listener opinions are always welcome here at KLQ.

Michael Grey
WKLQ Program Director
60 Monroe Center NW
Grand Rapids MI 49503
616-774-8461 ext.327


i have seen like....3 wow stickers over the past 2 years so he may have a point...hehe...but he stinks anyhow

[Spectrophoto]

My perfect world is that the FM show goes away and it goes back to being all XM. The XM side of the show is edgy and HILARIOUS. The FM deal has hurt the comedy. Anybody who disagrees with this is lying to themselves. Don't tell me that I "don't under what the show is about". Blah Blah Blah. I get it. I've been listening since the boy's first XM broadcast and have seen it evolve from good to great and back to just good again (because of FM).

Don't bother responding to this, because I don't care enough about your opinion to check on what you said.

[Hog's Big Ben]

hehe

here's the email i sent to KLQ's pd

and his response...not the poor grammar:


It never fails. :D

[mattiew23m]

so, I just called over to the WEDG, because they used to have a main link on there website to O&A, and it was gone today. So, I called, and they said today was the last show?? What the hell is citadel doing?!?!? There is a link under "jocks", but it looks like they are ready to change the site. This sucks! I really hope they survive this merger

[AJellyDonut]

I haven't visited the forum in a long time, but felt the urge to post. This whole situation stinks. I am no longer a faithful listener, but I still feel pretty shitty about the cards that O&A have been dealt. Hopefully something works out and they get back on a few stations.

[mattiew23m]

Well, they are offically off in buffalo, with something that just says edge mornings 6am - 10am. They just erased them, like they never existed. FUCK CITADEL! If Mel offers them a deal with Xm/Sirius. They should not even fight for Fm at this point. And this is coming from someone that loves the fm show, and wish it could still be around. But, stations are getting cheap. And they are going to crappy talent, or just music....

[Drunk Stepdad]

Don't bother responding to this, because I don't care enough about your opinion to check on what you said.

Huh? Did you say anything that anyone should have read or cared about...

:huh:

[krisko]

It never fails. :D

i said nothing of his spelling, sir! ;p


:D

[SoxandPats84]

Looks like O&A will soon be on in Norfolk/Virginia Beach, VA on 96X WROX. Unfortunately they're going to be on middays though, following Mancunt.

http://www.vartv.com/

[Pearce]

Oh boy, Virginia Beach. That makes up for Chicago and Philly and DC.

edit: Despite my bitterness, it's really cool to see the boys add a market again. A top 50 one at that.

[rnjrmysmustache]

wouldnt ya know it,buffalo loses the bbboys,on the same day my inno take a shit.whats a guy to do ? Do I buy a new portable so I can listen live,or listen to the replay.do I waste my money on something new if they are not gonna be renewed,wtf ........shitadel sucks on ice....fuck the edge,fuck them up thier stupid asses!!!!!!

[Hog's Big Ben]

Looks like O&A will soon be on in Norfolk/Virginia Beach, VA on 96X WROX. Unfortunately they're going to be on middays though, following Mancunt.

http://www.vartv.com/

Nice. That's a bigger market than Buffalo. Does the signal reach any part of DC?

[SoxandPats84]

Nice. That's a bigger market than Buffalo. Does the signal reach any part of DC?

Nope, and it looks like it's just a rimshot into Virginia Beach, damn...

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WROX&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

[Hog's Big Ben]

Nope, and it looks like it's just a rimshot into Virginia Beach, damn...

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WROX&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

Well fuck. At least it's a start in the right direction. It sucks Mancow is live and they get tape delay, though.

[Sidekick Dave]

How long have O&A been off in Portland, ME (94.3 WCYY)?




The world as I knew it is coming to an end.

[SoxandPats84]

How long have O&A been off in Portland, ME (94.3 WCYY)?




The world as I knew it is coming to an end.

They've been off 94.3 for at least a year. WCYY used to be be a simulcast of 94.3 and 93.9. They did keep them on 93.9 only for a while, even after Citadel put the station in a trust before selling it. It was O&A in the morning, and "The Maine Blues Project" all day. A month or so ago, 93.9 was sold to EMF Broadcasting (godcasters) and they put their Air One Jesus rock on there, getting rid of O&A of course.

[blacknoi]

Put them back on Buffalo.... FUCK that hick city Syracuse.....

Syracuse and Buffalo are both hick cities to this NJ suburbs guy.

winkie eye, smiley face

[atxklown]

It doesnt matter how many stations they lose, or that it's less than 80 days on their XM contract in the world of Sirius Takeover. They Still Have the PASSION, and O&A always will win in the end.


Right?? Right? :(

[Buds Spuckley]

Wow the koolaid drinking in this thread is amazing. They arent the same show as they used to be. They got booted in their prime and are now an average show. They arent edgy anymore, they do skid marks in the underwear bit that any other schloko jock does. They replay the same bits ad nasuem and the Jill talk isnt funny or interesting, they bashed Howard when he whined about the FCC regulations (remember
'Howards a hack who couldnt adapt") now they whine about the same regulations.

They phone in XM daily, leave early and generally dont give a good product like they first did on XM. They make is seem like they are doing everyone a favor by putting on an entertaining show.

I will surely be labeled a "hater" because I dont see the show with rose colored glasses. Lets face it if they had the ratings they wouldnt be getting dumped, no amount of emails will keep them if they dont create revenue.

[Digital_Trauma]

. . . . they bashed Howard when he whined about the FCC regulations (remember
'Howards a hack who couldnt adapt") now they whine about the same regulations.

I believe the correct quote (with bad grammar inserted) was:

"Howard is a hack that couldn't adapt"

[frankw]

Wow the koolaid drinking in this thread is amazing. They arent the same show as they used to be. They got booted in their prime and are now an average show. They arent edgy anymore, they do skid marks in the underwear bit that any other schloko jock does. They replay the same bits ad nasuem and the Jill talk isnt funny or interesting, they bashed Howard when he whined about the FCC regulations (remember
'Howards a hack who couldnt adapt") now they whine about the same regulations.

They phone in XM daily, leave early and generally dont give a good product like they first did on XM. They make is seem like they are doing everyone a favor by putting on an entertaining show.

I will surely be labeled a "hater" because I dont see the show with rose colored glasses. Lets face it if they had the ratings they wouldnt be getting dumped, no amount of emails will keep them if they dont create revenue.


I see it differently, I think the board has become far more rational than it used to be with a lot less kool-aid drinking (as you put it).

Nothing wrong with fans being optimistic & rooting

I hardly see any post that make outlandish claims of popularity or listenership anymore, but more post wondering why the show hasn't caught on as big or how XM would let the option run out

[livebackwards]

they bashed Howard when he whined about the FCC regulations (remember
'Howards a hack who couldnt adapt") now they whine about the same regulations.

To be fair to the bbboys, they are most certainly NOT the same regulations as when Howie quit. CBS blew smoke up their ass about how they'd be allowed to be an edgy show still, and then they kept moving the line back further and further until now they can't even talk in second grade slang (Poop? Fart? Seriously?). Someone brought up the frog-in-water theory earlier, that's exactly what CBS did to them, but instead of not noticing, the boys get rightfully infuriated every time some new rule crops up. Unfortunately no one with any pull seems to be on their side, so there's not much they can really do to push back.

To give fair credit to Howie, he most likely believed that FM censorship was only going to get worse and worse, whereas the boys were, if not trusting of their new bosses, then at least optimistic, and now they're fucked on both ends: FM neutering them daily and XM suspending them and then dragging heels on their contract renewal. They still put on a great show, but the frustration is palpable to the point where I halfway wish they'd give the finger to both FM and XM and go internet-only just so people would quit fucking them over every time their backs are turned. Wishful, impractical Internet Guy thinking, but God DAMN it this is irritating.

[frankw]

To be fair to the bbboys, they are most certainly NOT the same regulations as when Howie quit. CBS blew smoke up their ass about how they'd be allowed to be an edgy show still, and then they kept moving the line back further and further until now they can't even talk in second grade slang (Poop? Fart? Seriously?). Someone brought up the frog-in-water theory earlier, that's exactly what CBS did to them, but instead of not noticing, the boys get rightfully infuriated every time some new rule crops up. Unfortunately no one with any pull seems to be on their side, so there's not much they can really do to push back.

To give fair credit to Howie, he most likely believed that FM censorship was only going to get worse and worse, whereas the boys were, if not trusting of their new bosses, then at least optimistic, and now they're fucked on both ends: FM neutering them daily and XM suspending them and then dragging heels on their contract renewal. They still put on a great show, but the frustration is palpable to the point where I halfway wish they'd give the finger to both FM and XM and go internet-only just so people would quit fucking them over every time their backs are turned. Wishful, impractical Internet Guy thinking, but God DAMN it this is irritating.

Right on with all points
Howard said it was getting worse every day before he left & he had more pull.
Cannot blame O&A for taking the deal & being optimistic though, anybody would have.

[Pearce]

Wow the koolaid drinking in this thread is amazing. They arent the same show as they used to be. They got booted in their prime and are now an average show. They arent edgy anymore, they do skid marks in the underwear bit that any other schloko jock does. They replay the same bits ad nasuem and the Jill talk isnt funny or interesting, they bashed Howard when he whined about the FCC regulations (remember
'Howards a hack who couldnt adapt") now they whine about the same regulations.

They phone in XM daily, leave early and generally dont give a good product like they first did on XM. They make is seem like they are doing everyone a favor by putting on an entertaining show.

I will surely be labeled a "hater" because I dont see the show with rose colored glasses. Lets face it if they had the ratings they wouldnt be getting dumped, no amount of emails will keep them if they dont create revenue.

They aren't the same show they used to be, they got booted in their prime and came back to become an even better show. They're still extremely edgy, one day they did a spontaneous underwear check bit that failed, so they went further and further with it until they got a reaction which was with deep asshole sniffings. Let's completely ignore porn stars blowing people just a few weeks ago because of one spontateous bit that you didn't think was quite "shocking" enough, faggot.

You want to talk about replaying the same bits ad nauseum? Holy shit are you retarded. How the flying fuck can you say the corny "WNEW WAS DA BEST!" bullshit when they would literally do a bit early in the show and replay it 2 or 3 times throughout that same show, but bitch about them replaying a few clips from the show before to get the reaction from the guy they were fucking with who was back in studio? Talk about rose colored glasses, fucking jerkoff. They don't even talk about Jill anymore, and when they do it's maybe 10 minutes or so. Add it up, 10 minutes a day = 50 minutes a week = what percentage of their 25 hour week? Exactly. Shut your dumb ass up.

They sure do phone in XM daily, like yesterday's show for example, or the show before that, those were shitty phoned in days. Seriously, could you have picked a worse time to spout your horse shit, literally the day after one of the best shows they've done in a couple weeks?

You're a hater (your shitty basic reverse psychology "I know I'll be labeled a hater by all the sheep!" shit didn't work, cunt) and a dope. As per Opie's request:


http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9707/2958972lxx2.jpg

[thegreatgazoo]

Wow the koolaid drinking in this thread is amazing. They arent the same show as they used to be. They got booted in their prime and are now an average show. They arent edgy anymore, they do skid marks in the underwear bit that any other schloko jock does. They replay the same bits ad nasuem and the Jill talk isnt funny or interesting, they bashed Howard when he whined about the FCC regulations (remember
'Howards a hack who couldnt adapt") now they whine about the same regulations.

They phone in XM daily, leave early and generally dont give a good product like they first did on XM. They make is seem like they are doing everyone a favor by putting on an entertaining show.

I will surely be labeled a "hater" because I dont see the show with rose colored glasses. Lets face it if they had the ratings they wouldnt be getting dumped, no amount of emails will keep them if they dont create revenue.



I wouldn't call you a hater, you kind of summed it up. Everything changed when they started making big money, just like Howard. They just didn't care anymore. Bottom line is that if you look back, the FM move was their downfall. All of us who were bashed to death when we complained about it seemed to have been right. They did this all to them selves. They have no one else to blame. Period.

[maz]

A Bloody Tampon for You

[frankw]

I wouldn't call you a hater, you kind of summed it up. Everything changed when they started making big money, just like Howard. They just didn't care anymore. Bottom line is that if you look back, the FM move was their downfall. All of us who were bashed to death when we complained about it seemed to have been right. They did this all to them selves. They have no one else to blame. Period.


Can you blame them for the FM move though? They thought they were headed to becoming the next Stern (his stations, his FM audience, his old edge) & even the biggest lemming would deep down admit they wanted that for ego, success, fame, money & to stick it to Howard & lesser extent Mel.
It didn't work out but I cannot fault them for signing & thought it was a good move.
What surprises me as much as the lukewarm FM reception was how little terrestrial meant to XM. Most thought it would bring tons of FM listeners and that the guys would blow past Howard as far as listeners on XM.

[rnjrmysmustache]

As a valued Edge Cyberclub member, I wanted to write you directly about the change we've made in mornings at Rock Radio 103.3 The Edge. As of 9am this morning, The Edge will no longer carry The Opie and Anthony Show. There are many reasons for this decision and I will share some of them with you. We have been very serious in our "You-Thousand Eight" initiative. Much of our music, contests, weekend themes and other programming have been driven by you. As part of this plan, we've been overwhelmed by two major factors. First, we are bombarded with calls and emails asking us to be 'more local' in the morning. Even hardcore fans of O&A have expressed those sentiments. The other concern shared by many of you is that since O&A and Shredd & Ragan don't play music, The Edge hasn't felt like the 'rock station' that it used to be. First of all, everyone here at The Edge has a great deal of respect for Opie and Anthony. You will hear some people say that the show failed here and that's why this is happening but that couldn't be further from the truth. O&A were successful in Western New York and we remain honored to have carried them for the last 2 years. Part of our plan two years ago was to grow the station by putting Buffalo radio legends Shredd and Ragan in afternoons. The move of that show has been a tremendous success. By adding O&A to our line up in mornings we created compelling radio that Buffalo embraced. While our plan was indeed a tremendous success, it is now time to move to the next level and the future of rock radio in Western New York. Starting this Monday, I will go on the air in the morning dealing you the rock music you demanded. You will have direct access to me. I will answer any and all questions. We will also create an O&A forum at wedg.com for you to share your thoughts on this decision as your opinion matters. Feel free to call me Monday at 716-644-9EDGE. There is a lot of negative press about radio in the 21st century but understand that Buffalo is different. I'm from South Buffalo and I've known these three words my entire life. 'Buffalo expects more.' With that being said, we're now poised to give you more. It is with mixed emotions that Opie and Anthony depart, we must now look to the future and the opportunity we have to produce a Buffalo based morning show that can belong to our community; a morning show that will not only entertain you, but give you the content control and Buffalo material that you expect from us. We will invest in our morning show and our ability to be a 100% Buffalo radio station. I look forward to telling you all about it in the coming weeks. I hope to see you out at Edgefest 2008 on Saturday! James Kurdziel
Program Director
Rock Radio 103.3 The Edge
(this is the email I got from evil jim from the edge)
so the listeners dropped ona...right
FUCK....its shut up and rock for buffalo
If I said it once I said it 1000 times...fuck 103.3,fuck them up their stupid asses

[BigBuffaloFan]

It is with mixed emotions that Opie and Anthony depart, we must now look to the future and the opportunity we have to produce a Buffalo based morning show that can belong to our community; a morning show that will not only entertain you, but give you the content control and Buffalo material that you expect from us.

Bunch of mind controlling Nazi's. Tell you what to think. Fuck you.

[OlGravyLeg]

I wouldn't call you a hater, you kind of summed it up. Everything changed when they started making big money, just like Howard. They just didn't care anymore. Bottom line is that if you look back, the FM move was their downfall. All of us who were bashed to death when we complained about it seemed to have been right. They did this all to them selves. They have no one else to blame. Period.


Agreed on all counts. I was a big supporter of the FM move but it just hasn't worked out. A large part of that is because they've been castrated by senseless rules but also because they just haven't been particularly compelling for concentrated periods of time. On top of that, their egos inflated to the point where they treated XM like some garbage that we should be grateful they even bother to show up for. Ant has missed more shows this year than he had in the previous 3. The only shows that really succeed are those featuring Louis Ck/Patrice/Burr/Kelly/Colin/etc. The obsession with message boards and PalTalk really hurts the show and I know plenty of people who I tried to turn onto the show who asked me why are they so bothered about the internet. Real celebrities don't go on talk shows and complain about shit people say about them on the internet. It shouldn't even register with people like them but it consumes them at times. The staff just don't seem to produce anything worth doing and they're too misinformed or out of touch to really discuss music or politics to the point non-fans would be compelled to listen. I cringe at times, and not for the right reasons. When they started complaining about how much radio they do and how grateful people should be for it, it really rubbed the wrong way. First of all (thanks, Vos), they get paid a lot of money for it. They signed contracts to do it. And if you actually edit out the commercial brakes they're doing more like three and half hours a day, not five. Real people work at least eight hours a day for far less reward.

Honestly, despite all that I listen to EVERY show and 6 out of 10 I find really enjoyable, often hilarious. The comics they have on are great, Louis CK and Colin in particular are incredible. And any time they get into a really good bit it's still great. But really good bits don't involve shit. Or Stalker Patti. I really love the show, have for the past 9 years and it would crush me if it went away forever. But they really have to look at themselves if that happens because they could have prevented it merely by acting more professional and being more appreciative of the position they were put in. Nobody owes them anything.

Fingers crossed for a new contract.

[Drunk Stepdad]

As a valued Edge Cyberclub member, ...It is with mixed emotions that Opie and Anthony depart, we must now look to the future and the opportunity we have to produce a Buffalo based morning show that can belong to our community; a morning show that will not only entertain you, but give you the content control and Buffalo material that you expect from us. We will invest in our morning show and our ability to be a 100% Buffalo radio station.

Bullshit. A: You're not valued. B: If i want 'Buffalo' content (only important to anyone IN Buffalo, the rest of WNY sees it for the dump that it is) there's freakin talk radio. That's what people turn to if they want 'Local'.

Oh, and if Buffalo Wanted More, you'd all move.

[rnjrmysmustache]

Bullshit. A: You're not valued. B: If i want 'Buffalo' content (only important to anyone IN Buffalo, the rest of WNY sees it for the dump that it is) there's freakin talk radio. That's what people turn to if they want 'Local'.

Oh, and if Buffalo Wanted More, you'd all move.

all we want in buffalo is entertaining radio,something that is different then the norm.every morning show in buffalo is the same damn thing...at the top of the hour they do news and sports,play some overplayed song that we've heard like 100,000 times before,then tell some stupid story about what they did last night.It wasnt funny yesterday,nor 10yrs ago the first time they told the story.

(if your wernt bashing me......disregard)

[jiltedgallo]

i grew up in syracuse and morning radio was always awful there because the majority of the listener population on the morning drive is a mom taking their kids to school now that howie is gone. he pretty much ruled the morning drive for any male (then we'd followed up later in the day with a good ol' scorch show on krock.) once howie left everyone scattered, a lot of people somehow ending up at the country station b-104, which had a huge listenership even when stern was still on. continuing to defy logic, a lot of listeners also went to ted and amy, which is a morning show so bad and stale and holey, that it makes elvis duran's show seem like they're having carolina shoot ice cubes out of her ass. it's beyond tame. amy is the definition of hole and she has that whole "we're married to other people but act like a married couple" thing going.
all of my friends who have been unable to escape syr have adopted xm or sirus so that's probably why o&a had a wishy washy showing there.

[Buds Spuckley]

They aren't the same show they used to be, they got booted in their prime and came back to become an even better show. They're still extremely edgy, one day they did a spontaneous underwear check bit that failed, so they went further and further with it until they got a reaction which was with deep asshole sniffings. Let's completely ignore porn stars blowing people just a few weeks ago because of one spontateous bit that you didn't think was quite "shocking" enough, faggot.

You want to talk about replaying the same bits ad nauseum? Holy shit are you retarded. How the flying fuck can you say the corny "WNEW WAS DA BEST!" bullshit when they would literally do a bit early in the show and replay it 2 or 3 times throughout that same show, but bitch about them replaying a few clips from the show before to get the reaction from the guy they were fucking with who was back in studio? Talk about rose colored glasses, fucking jerkoff. They don't even talk about Jill anymore, and when they do it's maybe 10 minutes or so. Add it up, 10 minutes a day = 50 minutes a week = what percentage of their 25 hour week? Exactly. Shut your dumb ass up.

They sure do phone in XM daily, like yesterday's show for example, or the show before that, those were shitty phoned in days. Seriously, could you have picked a worse time to spout your horse shit, literally the day after one of the best shows they've done in a couple weeks?

You're a hater (your shitty basic reverse psychology "I know I'll be labeled a hater by all the sheep!" shit didn't work, cunt) and a dope. As per Opie's request:


http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9707/2958972lxx2.jpg

Wow way to parrot everything the host tells you, first of all the Jill bs was way more than 10 minutes a day, I cant tell you exactly how long it was because I fast forwarded through it.

The show started going to shit when one of the hosts cared WAY too much about paltalk and messageboards instead of showing up on time and being entertaining (drinking wine and doing a show for a chatroom doesnt count)

The "most honest show on radio" as they claim bashes people like Al Sharpton for having Imus tossed off the air but want their critics silenced with tampon pics, ironic huh?

You and I have different definitions of a great show, smelling man ass and barfing isnt entertaining its a cop out. Their greatest shows are when they have no stunts and sit around and shoot the shit. Ive been listening to them a better part of a decade starting with syndication underground and even ran a SU station so no Im not just a "hater" Im annoyed that Anthony has become Howard Jr talking about going to events with Jill and whining about his pool.

They still have flashes of brilliance but now they all have mortgages and bills to pay and dont push the envelope. Im not even talking about stunts but Homeless Shopping Spree for example they bailed on, the helicopter Opie bit bailed. Yet they do a Fatty Pig Fatty bit everyday that sucked. These guys now whine about lawyers as an excuse NOT to do great radio.

Bring back the funny and dont act like youre doing everyone a favor, if I pay to see a movie and I think it is entertaining/sucks I tell my friends, same with a radio show.

[Pearce]

Wow way to parrot everything the host tells you, first of all the Jill bs was way more than 10 minutes a day, I cant tell you exactly how long it was because I fast forwarded through it.

The show started going to shit when one of the hosts cared WAY too much about paltalk and messageboards instead of showing up on time and being entertaining (drinking wine and doing a show for a chatroom doesnt count)

The "most honest show on radio" as they claim bashes people like Al Sharpton for having Imus tossed off the air but want their critics silenced with tampon pics, ironic huh?

You and I have different definitions of a great show, smelling man ass and barfing isnt entertaining its a cop out. Their greatest shows are when they have no stunts and sit around and shoot the shit. Ive been listening to them a better part of a decade starting with syndication underground and even ran a SU station so no Im not just a "hater" Im annoyed that Anthony has become Howard Jr talking about going to events with Jill and whining about his pool.

They still have flashes of brilliance but now they all have mortgages and bills to pay and dont push the envelope. Im not even talking about stunts but Homeless Shopping Spree for example they bailed on, the helicopter Opie bit bailed. Yet they do a Fatty Pig Fatty bit everyday that sucked. These guys now whine about lawyers as an excuse NOT to do great radio.

Bring back the funny and dont act like youre doing everyone a favor, if I pay to see a movie and I think it is entertaining/sucks I tell my friends, same with a radio show.

So there were like 2 weeks when they really focused on the Jill stuff, again, 25 hours a week. I was one of the people who loathed the Boston show because Jill was on mic for like an hour. It's over at this point sans the occasional 10 minute chat with her name in it. Add up the amount of time truly spent on Jill and add up the amount of time they've spent doing a show since the Jill thing has started, it really puts things in perspective.

I'd like you to list every time that Ant hasn't shown up or been entertaining since you claim it's started happening. Go on, use facts to prove your point, don't just throw something out there and hope people accept it as fact.

You're not being silenced, dummy, you're still free to post whatever you want. You should know that because you're still posting your dumb shit. However, your posts will be met with bloody tampons because you're a blubbering vagina.

Yeah, O&A have never been about stunts where people puke, I guess since you've been a fan for a decade you would know better than anyone that they've never done anything like that before a week or 2 ago. It really sucks that they went from the shooting-the-shit-with-no-stunts show in what you say was their prime in afternoons to the non-stop stunt show.....you silly ass-backwards little man. Anthony sure is turning into Howard by talking about Jill and his pool.....or he actually hasn't at all and you're desperately reaching to try to find something, as you've failed miserably so far.

What do you mean they don't push the envelope? Porn stars blowing people isn't enough? ESD drinking piss isn't taking it far enough for you? They can't do the Homeless Shopping Spree because they're not allowed, there was no bailing on anything. Did you really not understand that the Opie throwing money out of a helicopter thing was a bit, you clueless fuck? They don't do Fatty Pig Fatty every day and it didn't suck. They got to humiliate gargantuan abominations of human beings by offering enough cash for them to sacrifice their dignity and willingly join a contest where the name alone cuts into their deepest insecurity.

I was just listening to a show the other day, actually, where they had "Honey" from the contest in and they didn't attack her. So what did they do? They bashed themselves for being pussies. That's the beauty of O&A, they ****ed up when they had the chance and created great radio out of it by acknowledging it, similar to what happened just a few days ago with the french fruit. You can't say that they "use the lawyers as an excuse not to do great radio" when they do great radio just about every day without all the shit lawyers don't let them do. Do you not realize how much of a dumb douche you sound like in saying that they don't push the envelope because they "bailed" on the HSS and then go on to say they use lawyers as an excuse not to do great radio when it's the fucking lawyers that don't let them do the HSS? You're basically saying "Those pussies won't do the HSS anymore because they lost their edge, and don't give me that lawyer BS that's just an excuse not to do that great radio!", no you goofy prick, that's what happened.

As has been said before, it's ridiculous that you try and pull this shit at this moment in time after they did 2 consecutive great shows into the weekend and Anthony even came in to do an hour with Lazlow and a 3 hour midnight show. That asshole, never showing up for work. If you don't like the show, go tell your faggoty friends and stop listening, don't pollute the fan site hoping to get mentioned on the air ya cunt.

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[Buds Spuckley]

So there were like 2 weeks when they really focused on the Jill stuff, again, 25 hours a week. I was one of the people who loathed the Boston show because Jill was on mic for like an hour. It's over at this point sans the occasional 10 minute chat with her name in it. Add up the amount of time truly spent on Jill and add up the amount of time they've spent doing a show since the Jill thing has started, it really puts things in perspective.

I'd like you to list every time that Ant hasn't shown up or been entertaining since you claim it's started happening. Go on, use facts to prove your point, don't just throw something out there and hope people accept it as fact.

You're not being silenced, dummy, you're still free to post whatever you want. You should know that because you're still posting your dumb shit. However, your posts will be met with bloody tampons because you're a blubbering vagina.

Yeah, O&A have never been about stunts where people puke, I guess since you've been a fan for a decade you would know better than anyone that they've never done anything like that before a week or 2 ago.

Way to resort to name calling to prove what a moron you are. Its a RADIO SHOW youre way too worked up to try to get mentioned on the air as a great protector.

I never claimed I was being censored, and as far as them never doing puke radio shows, perhaps you forget the "baby bird" from the Eggnog Drinking Challenge, perhaps you forgot the Chowder Challenge for Super Bowl tickets. Perhaps you forget the cereal puke bit where Magoo i believe it was at puke and cereal. Need I go on?

There are no FACTS that Ant isnt bringing it like he used to idiot, its all a matter of OPINION, the fact is you feel only your opinion is valid.

Where did I say the show sucks? No where, the whole pest thing was the first derailing of the show, then it was paltalk then them worrying about what websites are saying about them. Its childlike and not entertaining to hear a man in his late 40's whine about whats being said about him online.

You might be the single dumbest person I have ever interacted with, youre a lemming who thinks what a radio show host tells them to think. Thats the saddest thing Ive ever heard of...you resort to name calling as if some drooling mongoloid who enjoys listening to a man sniff another mans ass would offend me.


They dont need to be clever when they have listeners like you who will live in their moms basement and continue to listen to a 2nd rate product.

Ill stick with Ron and Fez until they get back on their game.

Post all the tampon pics as you want, notice youre the only one doing it, speaks volumes about the "pests" now doesnt it.

[Hog's Big Ben]

as far as them never doing puke radio shows, perhaps you forget the "baby bird" from the Eggnog Drinking Challenge, perhaps you forgot the Chowder Challenge for Super Bowl tickets. Perhaps you forget the cereal puke bit where Magoo i believe it was at puke and cereal. Need I go on?

I'm gonna guess he was being sarcastic.

And for the record, PearceMark, the lawyers didn't say no to HSS. CBS didn't want to give up the airtime for it and XM never said no. The "excuse" given by XM was that they needed the promotion from CBS to get a decent crowd (and more likely, XM probably wanted CBS to foot most of the bill).


And can neither of you come up with anything better than a mom's basement line? Jesus H...

[Pearce]

Way to resort to name calling to prove what a moron you are. Its a RADIO SHOW youre way too worked up to try to get mentioned on the air as a great protector.

I never claimed I was being censored, and as far as them never doing puke radio shows, perhaps you forget the "baby bird" from the Eggnog Drinking Challenge, perhaps you forgot the Chowder Challenge for Super Bowl tickets. Perhaps you forget the cereal puke bit where Magoo i believe it was at puke and cereal. Need I go on?

There are no FACTS that Ant isnt bringing it like he used to idiot, its all a matter of OPINION, the fact is you feel only your opinion is valid.

Where did I say the show sucks? No where, the whole pest thing was the first derailing of the show, then it was paltalk then them worrying about what websites are saying about them. Its childlike and not entertaining to hear a man in his late 40's whine about whats being said about him online.

You might be the single dumbest person I have ever interacted with, youre a lemming who thinks what a radio show host tells them to think. Thats the saddest thing Ive ever heard of...you resort to name calling as if some drooling mongoloid who enjoys listening to a man sniff another mans ass would offend me.


They dont need to be clever when they have listeners like you who will live in their moms basement and continue to listen to a 2nd rate product.

Ill stick with Ron and Fez until they get back on their game.

Post all the tampon pics as you want, notice youre the only one doing it, speaks volumes about the "pests" now doesnt it.


"Way to resort to namecalling" and then you call me a moron, you can't even get through a sentence without contradicting yourself, silly boy. I don't need to get mentioned on air as a great defender, I'm happy with the occasional feedback Opie reads, I defend them because your statements are retarded.

You said it was ironic that O&A bashed Reverend Al for wanting Imus fired and they want the haters silenced, I pointed out that you're not silenced at all as you're free to post whatever you want. How very perceptive of you not to see the sarcasm in the puking statement. You said that deep asshole sniffing to make people puke isn't entertaining and is a copout but O&A have done puke stunts forever, so you're either saying doing things to get people to puke was never great radio or it was great radio before but magically it's not great radio now, so which is it?

It is a fact whether or not he shows up for work, you can certainly list that. And while it's not necessarily a "fact", you must have reached your opinion for a reason and you should be able to specify why you feel that way. And to say that because he talks about his life like he always has makes him less funny than he used to be is silly. It really comes off as only remembering the really good things from back in the day and all the hours where not much was going on are forgotten, but if you're thinking of recent times you're going to remember a lot of the stuff you'll eventually forget alongside the great stuff, that's why it feels so dishonest when people rave about how they used to be so much better.

The show hasn't derailed, I'm not the dumbest person you've interacted with, I don't think what radio hosts tell me to think. Stop contradicting yourself by crying about me insulting you and saying it's the saddest thing ever and then continuing on to insult me in the same sentence, doing the thing you're condemning me for yourself, silly little boy. They don't have to be clever but they are. I don't live in my mom's basement and I listen to the best show in radio.

You're allowed your opinion, no matter how bad and wrong it is, but I'll continue to address each one of your horrid points directly and show to you just how silly and hypocritical what you say is. Oh yeah, almost forgot:

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[Drunk Stepdad]

all we want in buffalo is entertaining radio,something that is different then the norm.every morning show in buffalo is the same damn thing...at the top of the hour they do news and sports,play some overplayed song that we've heard like 100,000 times before,then tell some stupid story about what they did last night.It wasnt funny yesterday,nor 10yrs ago the first time they told the story.

(if your wernt bashing me......disregard)

No not bashing you, but bashing the fact that people who live in Buffalo think the rest of WNY care. We Don't.

But the rest of us non-Buffalonians still want good radio. You know, pre corp. takeover radio. Back when CFNY was a real radio station.

[Buds Spuckley]

"Way to resort to namecalling" and then you call me a moron, you can't even get through a sentence without contradicting yourself, silly boy. I don't need to get mentioned on air as a great defender, I'm happy with the occasional feedback Opie reads, I defend them because your statements are retarded.

You said it was ironic that O&A bashed Reverend Al for wanting Imus fired and they want the haters silenced, I pointed out that you're not silenced at all as you're free to post whatever you want. How very perceptive of you not to see the sarcasm in the puking statement. You said that deep asshole sniffing to make people puke isn't entertaining and is a copout but O&A have done puke stunts forever, so you're either saying doing things to get people to puke was never great radio or it was great radio before but magically it's not great radio now, so which is it?

It is a fact whether or not he shows up for work, you can certainly list that. And while it's not necessarily a "fact", you must have reached your opinion for a reason and you should be able to specify why you feel that way. And to say that because he talks about his life like he always has makes him less funny than he used to be is silly. It really comes off as only remembering the really good things from back in the day and all the hours where not much was going on are forgotten, but if you're thinking of recent times you're going to remember a lot of the stuff you'll eventually forget alongside the great stuff, that's why it feels so dishonest when people rave about how they used to be so much better.

The show hasn't derailed, I'm not the dumbest person you've interacted with, I don't think what radio hosts tell me to think. Stop contradicting yourself by crying about me insulting you and saying it's the saddest thing ever and then continuing on to insult me in the same sentence, doing the thing you're condemning me for yourself, silly little boy. They don't have to be clever but they are. I don't live in my mom's basement and I listen to the best show in radio.

You're allowed your opinion, no matter how bad and wrong it is, but I'll continue to address each one of your horrid points directly and show to you just how silly and hypocritical what you say is. Oh yeah, almost forgot:

http://tastybooze.com/wp-content/gallery/random_pictures/tampon.jpg

Way to bash me for contradicting myself, then do what the radio host tells you and post tampon pics.

Yes, in case you couldnt tell I dont think listening to people puke on the radio is funny. Wow how outrageous someone ate puke or a bug or some other VISUAL gag on the RADIO. Sorry I dont want to wait to see a youtube video after listening to the radio to see just how funny it is.

Why is it they are above any criticism? You cant talk about the quality of the product they are delivering is not up to the same standards as they used to be. I choose to be honest in my assessment of the show.

They arent the same show that they were, otherwise they wouldnt be LOSING stations. You can spin it however you want facts are if they put on an entertaining show that people listened to then they wouldnt be getting dropped from a different affiliate weekly.

They have treated XM like it doesnt matter so now XM has all the leverage, the combined company now has Howard in the morning so they dont need O&A like they once did. These are facts, again spin it however you want and keep posting tampon pics just like they tell you.

Youre right Anthony has brought it EVERYDAY, like missing work for his dates with Jill, his "stomach flus" after being on paltalk the night before drinking wine til 1am, falling asleep on the air are all hallmarks of a man who brings it every day. He routinely is not prepared for interviews, then goes on rants when people call him out on any of it. He sat there silently last week when one of the comedians actually said Oh Anthony is here he was sitting here silently, he blew it off with a laugh.

Lets face it hes fucking a former playboy chick and cashing a check, he doesnt have the passion he used to, he made it and is happy coasting.

[Pearce]

Way to bash me for contradicting myself, then do what the radio host tells you and post tampon pics.

Yes, in case you couldnt tell I dont think listening to people puke on the radio is funny. Wow how outrageous someone ate puke or a bug or some other VISUAL gag on the RADIO. Sorry I dont want to wait to see a youtube video after listening to the radio to see just how funny it is.

Why is it they are above any criticism? You cant talk about the quality of the product they are delivering is not up to the same standards as they used to be. I choose to be honest in my assessment of the show.

They arent the same show that they were, otherwise they wouldnt be LOSING stations. You can spin it however you want facts are if they put on an entertaining show that people listened to then they wouldnt be getting dropped from a different affiliate weekly.

They have treated XM like it doesnt matter so now XM has all the leverage, the combined company now has Howard in the morning so they dont need O&A like they once did. These are facts, again spin it however you want and keep posting tampon pics just like they tell you.

Youre right Anthony has brought it EVERYDAY, like missing work for his dates with Jill, his "stomach flus" after being on paltalk the night before drinking wine til 1am, falling asleep on the air are all hallmarks of a man who brings it every day. He routinely is not prepared for interviews, then goes on rants when people call him out on any of it. He sat there silently last week when one of the comedians actually said Oh Anthony is here he was sitting here silently, he blew it off with a laugh.

Lets face it hes fucking a former playboy chick and cashing a check, he doesnt have the passion he used to, he made it and is happy coasting.

You don't find people puking funny, that's cool. They're not above criticism but a lot of the criticism is exaggerated by the person and often just not true. Their stations really don't reflect how entertaining the product is, Bob and Tom are on a zillion tiny stations and their show is a snoozefest. You can't judge quality based on how many people like it, if that's how you rate things then a high selling shitty music quality Britney Spears album must be better than a low selling high quality rock album and that's just silly.

"They have treated XM like it doesn't matter so now XM has all the leverage", this doesn't make sense to me, I don't see how them treating like XM doesn't matter equates to XM having all the leverage. I don't think they've treated XM any worse than XM has treated them, especially after the suspension. So what if they have Howard in mornings? Why would they want to lose all the diehard O&A fans? I would think that the merged satellite company would logically want all the people they have now to stay and to immediately alienate a lot of people would be a poor move. And you have to remember that the channels replay so it's not like there has to be a decision of which one to have, if you want Howard live you can get O&A in afternoons and vice versa.

You brought up 2 examples of Ant not showing up for work (1 of which was part of a bit) and 1 example of him falling asleep on the air. So that's really 1 sick day and about 30 minutes of him not talking at the end of a show which turned into a bit itself. What a terrible record. I personally haven't noticed him not being prepared for interviews any more than ever before and I can't recall a time he went off on a rant about being called out on not being prepared for an interview. The only instances I can think of would be when it's a guest that Op or Jimmy are really into and they lead the interview.

I would agree he not as passionate in the sense that he's not miserable at home and sees the on-air world as his release, but he still has passion for doing radio and he's as funny as ever, even people that don't like the show will admit that Anthony is hilarious. That's what makes your stance so unbelievable to me, the divide and conquer is usually directed at Opie but you're going after the guy that everyone loves. And just because it gets you into a tizzy:

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[frankw]

Lets face it hes fucking a former playboy chick and cashing a check, he doesnt have the passion he used to, he made it and is happy coasting.

I can't see how anybody would listen to a radio host from LI that doesn't work as hard & then discusses his wealth & vacations/nights out regularly once he starts banging a model that is out of his league with big fake boobs

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[krisko]

holy shit, you guys are long winded.

[TeenBungle]

holy shit, you guys are long winded.

No shit, huh? I've been watching this for awhile now hoping one would yell for mercy and tap out. No time soon, I suppose.

Maybe someone should tell them that opinions are like assholes... everyone has one! :icon_lol::haha7::haha7:

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Holy shit, I just told an epic story. Love these icon thingies. This one could be my most favorite one eVAH. :clap4:

[TeenBungle]

Oh, btw this question doesn't belong here but HECK it's the top thread. Where is that thread on this site about what you're drinking? I think ppl pop in and say what they are partaking in.