BHO On 9/11 And Tells Fellow Legislator:`I`m Gonna Kick Your Ass!`

[Stalker2]

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BHO's Initial Response to 9/11

The New Yorker's lengthy new piece on B. Hussein reveals his initial reaction to September 11. In a speech given a few days after the horrific terrorist atrocities, Obama makes excuses for the perpetrators, comes to the defense of Muslims, and implies that more American taxpayers' money should be flushed down the Middle East and showered upon people throughout the world to whom it doesn't belong:

The essence of this tragedy, it seems to me, derives from a fundamental absence of empathy on the part of the attackers: an inability to imagine, or connect with, the humanity and suffering of others […which usually…] grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair. […]
We will have to be unwavering in opposing bigotry or discrimination directed against neighbors and friends of Middle Eastern descent. Finally, we will have to devote far more attention to the monumental task of raising the hopes and prospects of embittered children across the globe — children not just in the Middle East, but also in Africa, Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe and within our own shores.

These are not quite the priorities you would look for from a chief executive while this was still smoking:
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Some will remember how humiliating it was to have the useless liberal rag Jimmy Carter in the White House when Iran invaded our embassy. The sniveling socialist post turtle Obama impersonating a President when the next 9/11 is inflicted will be a thousand times worse.

July 13, 2008

Obama: 9/11 Attack The Result Of Attackers' "Fundamental Absence Of Empathy"
— DrewM
The New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/21/080721fa_fact_lizza?printable=true) has a big article on Obama. I haven't read it all yet but there are some interesting excerpts out there already. (http://thepage.time.com/2008/07/13/claim-obama-told-fellow-legislator-in-97-im-going-to-kick-your-ass/)
Here's Obama from a 9/19/01 speech.
We must also engage, however, in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness. The essence of this tragedy, it seems to me, derives from a fundamental absence of empathy on the part of the attackers: an inability to imagine, or connect with, the humanity and suffering of others. Such a failure of empathy, such numbness to the pain of a child or the desperation of a parent, is not innate; nor, history tells us, is it unique to a particular culture, religion, or ethnicity. It may find expression in a particular brand of violence, and may be channeled by particular demagogues or fanatics. Most often, though, it grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair. We will have to make sure, despite our rage, that any U.S. military action takes into account the lives of innocent civilians abroad. We will have to be unwavering in opposing bigotry or discrimination directed against neighbors and friends of Middle Eastern descent. Finally, we will have to devote far more attention to the monumental task of raising the hopes and prospects of embittered children across the globe—children not just in the Middle East, but also in Africa, Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe and within our own shores.
I guess my thought that the attacks were carried by evil thugs in furtherance of a murderous ideology would be viewed as insufficiently nuanced by Obama.
It seems, at least from this excerpt, that from the start Obama viewed 9/11 as a call to engage in global social work. I have to admit, 8 days after September 11th those weren't exactly my concerns and not really the priorities I'd want in any President faced with that situation. Also from this article...As a state Senator, Obama threatened to kick the ass of a fellow Senator.

LINK: http://ace.new.mu.nu/obama_911_attack_the_result_of_attackers_fundament al_absence_of_empathy
LINK: http://thepage.time.com/2008/07/13/claim-obama-told-fellow-legislator-in-97-im-going-to-kick-your-ass/
LINK: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/21/080721fa_fact_lizza?printable=true

[thetick130]

What parts of this did you write? JW

[Edible Napalm]

Wow, this is going to get ugly.

[WOWmagnet]

Wow, this is going to get ugly.

She already is, Sir.

[Begbie]

Wow, an anti-Obama thread AND a thread about 9-11 (troofer alert). So especially we've taken all of the threads in the CE forum lately and combined them into one mega thread set for destruction.

:popcorn:

[BullsLawDan]

Are you serious with this shit?

He said let's not try to solve the problem in a way that makes more terrorists... which was prophetic since it's exactly what the idiots in charge did.

He said let's not blame all muslims and be racist asses over what a few of them did...

He said in order to prevent future terrorism, we should help poor areas of the world to take care of their people.


What is the fucking problem with that? I'm not voting for the guy, but really, people are just getting to be idiots with this stuff.

[Sprite]

Zona in 3...2....

[WhiteHonkyDevil]

What is the fucking problem with that? I'm not voting for the guy, but really, people are just getting to be idiots with this stuff.

Not voting for him, either. But I pretty much gave up on an unbiased story as soon as the first sentence referred to him as just B. Hussein.

Come on, that's bush-league.

[DJ Evel Ed]

It won't matter since the world will be ending 12/21/2012.

It will be fun seeing the White House with red curtains hanging out of the windows and blunt wraps & crack-stems on the lawn.
Don't forget the watermelon rinds & Afro-Sheen all over the place too.

All Milquetoast McCain abuses is Geritol. Not very exciting to me.

[SaltyDelights]

The race is statistically tied.

Could you imagine if the economy weren't in the toilet? This Obama character would have no chance. The only supporters he would have would be anarchists and radical, anti-American militants - such as himself.

[wes mantooth]

The one time more outrage is called for you don't get it. Figures.

[Plunkies]

Obama? Sympathetic to terrorists? No way! I can't believe it!

[DocSavage]

If it were not for Obama and Jimmy Carter telling me it really is all OUR fault I would nver have known!

[MrBogey]

Are you serious with this shit?

He said let's not try to solve the problem in a way that makes more terrorists... which was prophetic since it's exactly what the idiots in charge did.

So we firebombed muslims at random and tried our damnest to violate their religious sensibilities?

Face it, the fuckers who became militant because of our actions were cousin-fuckers who wanted a reason to be violent dicks. We bent over backwards to accommodate their sensibilities and if they want to bitch we ought to cut them down.

Also Obama completely fucked the goat on this one. The guys who performed 9-11 were well educated middle-class to wealthy Arabs who never spent a day being oppressed. The people crying "we're creating terrorists" are people who look for a reason to complain about Americas foreign policy without regards to the truth. In other words, the people who are fucking things up.

[mikeybot]

That may just have changed me from pissing my vote away on a 3rd party candidate because I don't like either to voting for Mc Cain.

[Edible Napalm]

That may just have changed me from pissing my vote away on a 3rd party candidate because I don't like either to voting for Mc Cain.

That's way I'm going to vote for Steve Rogers.

[LiddyRules]

That's way I'm going to vote for Steve Rogers. Are you crazy? He wants us to catch him, now that he's falling.

[Zona992006]

Are you serious with this shit?

He said let's not try to solve the problem in a way that makes more terrorists... which was prophetic since it's exactly what the idiots in charge did.

He said let's not blame all muslims and be racist asses over what a few of them did...

He said in order to prevent future terrorism, we should help poor areas of the world to take care of their people.


What is the fucking problem with that? I'm not voting for the guy, but really, people are just getting to be idiots with this stuff.

:clap:

Shhhhhhh, your not allowed to post the obvious in here sir.

[Zona992006]

The race is statistically tied.

Could you imagine if the economy weren't in the toilet? This Obama character would have no chance. The only supporters he would have would be anarchists and radical, anti-American militants - such as himself.

Hannity? Is that you?

[Zona992006]

zona in 3...2....

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And if I counter with a thread against McCain, it will be WesMantooth, Vyce, Sprite, SinnFein (almost forgot him) et al in 3, 2, ......

[Sinn Fein]

The race is statistically tied.

Could you imagine if the economy weren't in the toilet? This Obama character would have no chance. The only supporters he would have would be anarchists and radical, anti-American militants - such as himself.

Exactly. And, it's only going to be compounded if something gets done pre-election time to bring down gas prices, etc.

[Zona992006]

Exactly. And, it's only going to be compounded if something gets done pre-election time to bring down gas prices, etc.

Hmm, I don't really think things have will be compounded since there is no way the gas prices are going to be reduced significantly pre election.

The interesting thing is, Gas prices, the economy sucking and Bush's legacy is helping Obama.

The threat of War helps McCain.

[Edible Napalm]

Yes, now this is getting good.

[silentbob8201]

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And if I counter with a thread against McCain, it will be WesMantooth, Vyce, Sprite, SinnFein (almost forgot him) et al in 3, 2, ......

Havent you made enough of those though?

[Zona992006]

Havent you made enough of those though?

Not even close. Think about how many anti obama threads (everything from him not know anything about the military to nascar, militant, muslim etc) there are out there with full backing and how many anti McCain threads I did....and how much support I get for them...el o el.

I know this place is mostly about hate for/fear of Obama..that is cool. I don't like McCain. I am known as the guy who doesn't like Mccain but Stalker2 isn't known as the Obama hater? Do a little search on his posts...he blames Obama for pretty much everything from him getting a flat tire to global warming...:)

I CANT WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER!!

[kidconnor]

I don't think it's so much a hate/fear of Obama as it is not buying into him. Everyone can go up and read speeches promising this and that, saying 'change' is whats needed, painting a picture, with words, of what The USA will be like with him at the helm.

For me its more a question of him not having the experience , backbone, or character to be better for this country. And this cover basically is made on what most people relate with him and his uppity wife.

[BullsLawDan]

Also Obama completely fucked the goat on this one. The guys who performed 9-11 were well educated middle-class to wealthy Arabs who never spent a day being oppressed. The people crying "we're creating terrorists" are people who look for a reason to complain about Americas foreign policy without regards to the truth. In other words, the people who are fucking things up.

Yes, the people who say things like that sure have no idea what they're talking about, and are probably completely ignorant about US foreign policy.

It's not like the Central Intelligence Agency would confirm that our efforts are creating more terrorism, is it?

Oh, wait... It is...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28876-2005Feb16.html

[Voss's Tumor]

I don't think it's so much a hate/fear of Obama as it is not buying into him. Everyone can go up and read speeches promising this and that, saying 'change' is whats needed, painting a picture, with words, of what The USA will be like with him at the helm.

For me its more a question of him not having the experience , backbone, or character to be better for this country. And this cover basically is made on what most people relate with him and his uppity wife.

Amen.

I'm a very accomplished businessman, but I wouldn't expect to be considered for the CEO job of Bank of New York any time soon because I'm tall.

Just like this inexperienced douchey wind-bag shouldn't get to be President after spending half of his first term as Senator campaigning. He hasn't even been a Senator as long as he's asking us to make him President for Christ's Sake!

[Voss's Tumor]

Yes, the people who say things like that sure have no idea what they're talking about, and are probably completely ignorant about US foreign policy.

It's not like the Central Intelligence Agency would confirm that our efforts are creating more terrorism, is it?

Oh, wait... It is...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28876-2005Feb16.html

The CIA is a spineless puddle of puppy diarrhea thanks to a certain DNC hero... Oh yeah, Clinton caused that. Why don't we point the fingers where they should be pointing?

Clinton was made to look like a hero because the economic decision made by fucking REAGAN had finally taken a hard core effect on the economy just in time for the .com boom of the 90s. Who pushed to get the internet declassified in 1989? I'll let you do your own research on who was President then.

Clinton played the sax on Arsenio, got elected by the brotha's, and now we're seeing the hard core economic after-shocks, and guess what, there's another DNC candidate running on the platform of playing sax on Arsenio and not having a fucking thing to say.

Religious wack-jobs got Bush elected because of Monica Lewinsky and family values, blah blah, we hate Bush too.

McCain's the lesser of the evils. Educate your fucking pot head followers or we'll do it for you. We just use harsher words and don't care about your feelings.

[Zona992006]

Yes, the people who say things like that sure have no idea what they're talking about, and are probably completely ignorant about US foreign policy.

It's not like the Central Intelligence Agency would confirm that our efforts are creating more terrorism, is it?

Oh, wait... It is...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28876-2005Feb16.html

el o el.

[Voss's Tumor]

el o el.

didja? didja really el oh el?

SLPOAADROLM!

(Slip in puddle of aids and die racist Obama loving moron)

[MrBogey]

Yes, the people who say things like that sure have no idea what they're talking about, and are probably completely ignorant about US foreign policy.

It's not like the Central Intelligence Agency would confirm that our efforts are creating more terrorism, is it?

Oh, wait... It is...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28876-2005Feb16.html

Yea... that doesn't quite say we're creating more terrorists. Hell, that's like saying desegregation created racists. That says that terrorists are using it to rally recruits. Personally, I see that as a positive. Get every cousin-fucking goat herder to pick up a gun.

[kidconnor]

It's not like the Central Intelligence Agency would confirm that our efforts are creating more terrorism, is it?

Oh, wait... It is...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28876-2005Feb16.html

So thats what ya got? One article from 2005?

OFCOURSE an invasion of their country raised their recruitment numbers.

Enlistment numbers for the military went up after Pearl Harbor and also after 9/11.
On 30 June 1941, the Marine Corps had 3,642 officers and 41,394 enlisted Marines, and was expanding at the rate of 2,000 enlistments a month. After Pearl Harbor, the enlistments exploded with 8,500 in December 1941, 13,000 in January 1942, and 10,000 in February. By June of that year, the strength of the Marine Corps had more than tripled.
And thats just the marines.


I doubt Alqueda and other groups had anywhere near those numbers. But out of fear of a slight increase in terrorist recruitment we should just sit back and do nothing?

[Stalker2]

Johnny McJackson:"Hey Jack, you see that new cover on The New
Yorker?"
Jack McJohnson:"Yeah, they make Mish and Brack look bad...Evil!"
Johnny McJackson:"They try to make Brack look like a Muslim U.S. Hater
and Mish look like An Angry Negro African American Female Woman Radical
Black Activist."
Jack McJohnson:"I feel guilty for enslaving the Negro African Americans."
Johnny McJackson:"Me too, I will vote for Brack and Mish this will release
my white guilt and allow them to enslave me for punishment."
Jack McJohnson:"C`mon Johnny, there`s an Brack Rally Downtown!
Lets Roll!"

[Zona992006]

didja? didja really el oh el?

SLPOAADROLM!

(Slip in puddle of aids and die racist Obama loving moron)

The ultimate McCain supporter! This is all you got. Just sad.

[Voss's Tumor]

Johnny McJackson:"Hey Jack, you see that new cover on The New
Yorker?"
Jack McJohnson:"Yeah, they make Mish and Brack look bad...Evil!"
Johnny McJackson:"They try to make Brack look like a Muslim U.S. Hater
and Mish look like An Angry Negro African American Female Woman Radical
Black Activist."
Jack McJohnson:"I feel guilty for enslaving the Negro African Americans."
Johnny McJackson:"Me too, I will vote for Brack and Mish this will release
my white guilt and allow them to enslave me for punishment."
Jack McJohnson:"C`mon Johnny, there`s an Brack Rally Downtown!
Lets Roll!"

These little conversations you have make me cringe laugh every fucking time after over-hearing bar conversations on the topic.

[Voss's Tumor]

The ultimate McCain supporter! This is all you got. Just sad.

Ignoring the political analysis the post prior to the one I made fun of you is all you got?

Define sad again?

Once again, McCain sucks too, he just sucks less than the new guy who wants my sympathy because a bunch of dead white guys might have owned his great grand-dad.

[Vyce]

That's way I'm going to vote for Steve Rogers.

I refuse to do so, because Marvel turned him into a liberal douche in one of their recent storylines (before they killed him dead).

[Plunkies]

The ultimate McCain supporter! This is all you got. Just sad.

At least he can use a single post instead of requiring four posts in a row to say absolutely nothing.

[ThatsNotFunny]

el o el.

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[Sprite]

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And if I counter with a thread against McCain, it will be WesMantooth, Vyce, Sprite, SinnFein (almost forgot him) et al in 3, 2, ......

Guess what, dickface? I happen to wish I could vote for John Edwards. I'm voting McCain because I respect him and think he will lead this country a hell of a lot better than your boy, Obama. I'd LIKE to vote for Edwards, but that would be silly as he's no longer a viable candidate. You, on the other hand, are voting for Obama because he's black, and you'll spew stomach bile in text just to make it seem like that's not why. You should be killed, honestly.

[Zona992006]

Ignoring the political analysis the post prior to the one I made fun of you is all you got?

Define sad again?

Once again, McCain sucks too, he just sucks less than the new guy who wants my sympathy because a bunch of dead white guys might have owned his great grand-dad.

You ..You have heard Obama mention voting for him because of dead white guys?

Does he bust a move for no reason? will he make the secret service wear gold chains and drive on 20's?

No, this is what scares you (spelled wrong) Voss's tumor. That is the definition of sad dude.

[Chino Kapone]

You ..You have heard Obama mention voting for him because of dead white guys?

Does he bust a move for no reason? will he make the secrete service wear gold chains and drive on 20's?

No, this is what scares you (spelled wrong) Voss's tumor. That is the definition of sad dude.

20's look like hub caps these days... :rolleyes:

[Zona992006]

Guess what, dickface? I happen to wish I could vote for John Edwards. I'm voting McCain because I respect him and think he will lead this country a hell of a lot better than your boy, Obama. I'd LIKE to vote for Edwards, but that would be silly as he's no longer a viable candidate. You, on the other hand, are voting for Obama because he's black, and you'll spew stomach bile in text just to make it seem like that's not why. You should be killed, honestly.

No, I am voting for him because he is the democratic front runner. McCain is a republican. (In case you had no idea)

Calling me those really hurtful names and wishing me death just hurts sir and is rather troll like.

[Zona992006]

20's look like hub caps these days... :rolleyes:

Good point, but everyone is going back to the regular sized ones because the bigger they are, the worse the gas milage. Bunch of dumb asses.

[Lunchbox420]

No, I am voting for him because he is the democratic front runner. McCain is a republican. (In case you had no idea)

Calling me those really hurtful names and wishing me death just hurts sir and is rather troll like.

real question, your voting for Obama because he is the frontrunner. What issues do you agree with him on, what are his views? If Lieberman was the front runner for the Dems would he get your vote?

[Zona992006]

real question, your voting for Obama because he is the front runner. What issues do you agree with him on, what are his views? If Lieberman was the front runner for the Dems would he get your vote?

I like Obama's stance on the war. (My number one concern, even though most Americans say its the economy). He is a dem who is for ending the war, cautiously, but ending it. (And no, he didn't flip flop on his stance. He always said the same thing). I feel as though a lot of our internal problems in the states have to do with us being in this war and I want our people home. A cautious removal but a removal none the less.

McCain is a republican who has no plan whatsoever in ending it. (Even though THEY are asking for a time plan). I honestly am afraid of McCain with his finger bitterly on the button. (I am one of THOSE many vets against McCain and Bush and so are a lot of my x squadron mates)



The other main reason I like him is his strength in the understanding of the economy and McCain's lack of. I don't trust McCain's people since they are pretty much Bush people knock off's. It aint workin..

As far as just voting dem, I would have had to checked out who was the front runner. It would have come down to voting for them, or not voting this time out. There is no way in hell I would have jumped parties to vote for McCain. Like I said, when I was still in the Navy, we had many (unofficially of course) meetings about uh, things and my mind was made up...no more Bush and McCain represents Bush in every single way by the way he voted.

I have a hard time voting for a guy who voted for this war. I know a lot of people say, well, it was a lie, and a mistake but we are there. I feel as though McCain would do it again.

[BullsLawDan]

Clinton played the sax on Arsenio, got elected by the brotha's, and now we're seeing the hard core economic after-shocks, and guess what, there's another DNC candidate running on the platform of playing sax on Arsenio and not having a fucking thing to say.

If you think President Clinton, or any other single President before, created our current economic situation, you are living on Earth 2.

Our current economic problem, more so than anything else, is caused by the incredibly weak dollar caused by overspending. Look at the non-rise in oil prices against the Euro. Oil hasn't become that much more expensive, it's just that our dollar doesn't buy as much of it.

You know what causes devaluation of the dollar? OVERSPENDING by the government. You know what politician in Washington has ever done one thing to cut spending? Not a single fucking one of them.

McCain's the lesser of the evils. Educate your fucking pot head followers or we'll do it for you. We just use harsher words and don't care about your feelings.

Who's "we"? Who are my pot head followers? I think you have not the slightest clue who I am.

Yea... that doesn't quite say we're creating more terrorists. Hell, that's like saying desegregation created racists. That says that terrorists are using it to rally recruits. Personally, I see that as a positive. Get every cousin-fucking goat herder to pick up a gun.

The sheer idiocy of this statement stands on its own. Why don't you just squint into the camera and say "Bring it on"?

So thats what ya got? One article from 2005?

The article is based on a comprehensive study over the years since 9/11 conducted by agents of the CIA. Furthermore, they have continually updated their findings since then and have confirmed my statement over and over again. Our actions are creating terrorists.

OFCOURSE an invasion of their country raised their recruitment numbers.

"Their" country? Iraq wasn't Al-Queda's country until we invaded and deposed the #1 factor holding down terrorism in that region of the world.

Hussein certainly wasn't our buddy, but his brutal rule did a good job keeping terrorists at bay.

And I don't see how your point refutes mine. Frankly, it seems to be confirming it.

I doubt Alqueda and other groups had anywhere near those numbers. But out of fear of a slight increase in terrorist recruitment we should just sit back and do nothing?

If the alternative to invading Iraq for no reason was doing nothing, than yes, we should have done nothing. Why did we invade Iraq again? Oh, right, no one knows.

You know who might be a good person to ask? This friend of mine. Growing up he was a really smart guy. Patrol leader of my patrol in scouts. Made Eagle Scout. Captain of the soccer team at my high school. National Honor Society. Graduated from Pitt summa cum laude. Pretty smart guy. He was in the military and understood all this Army strategy stuff - an officer even. Yeah, he'd be great to ask.

Oh, wait, you can't ask him... Because he's dead. (http://iraqnam.blogspot.com/2007/02/mark-resh-remembered.html) His Apache was shot down in Iraq. For what? NOTHING. FUCKING NOTHING. A clinically retarded President who got his panties in a bunch and had to beat his chest because some saber-rattling despot in the Middle East who had absolutely no means to hurt us threatened to hurt his widdle old daddy.

War is not something to be done lightly. If you now support or ever supported this war, you are a insanely stupid douche and should die, and that includes fuckface McCain.

[Begbie]

I got to here:

I like Obama's stance on the war. (My number one concern, even though most Americans say its the economy). He is a dem who is for ending the war, cautiously, but ending it. (And no, he didn't flip flop on his stance. He always said the same thing).

And I punched out.

For the third time...

On September 12, 2007 in front of HIS crowd:

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is calling for the immediate withdrawal of all U.S. combat brigades from Iraq, with the pullout being completed by the end of next year.

"Let me be clear: There is no military solution in Iraq and there never was," Obama said in excerpts of the speech provided to The Associated Press.

"The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq's leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops. Not in six months or one year — now," the Illinois senator says.
Ok...IMMEDIATE withdrawl and he even emphasizes not in the near future or in a couple days...no...NOW!

ONLY 14 days later DURING a nationally televised debate:

The leading Democratic White House hopefuls conceded Wednesday night they cannot guarantee to pull all U.S. combat troops from Iraq by the end of the next presidential term in 2013.
The debate, moderated by NBC’s Tim Russert, was broadcast on MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/).
"I think it's hard to project four years from now," said Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois in the opening moments of a campaign debate in the nation's first primary state.

Sooooooo, now he can't guarantee an immediate withdrawl of troops and can't even guarantee ALL troops will be home in four years. Big difference!

23 days later in front of HIS crowd:

Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama says he'd immediately order U.S. troops to return from Iraq if he's elected president.
The Illinois senator also told a crowd of about 5,000 at Arizona State University that he'd rely on diplomacy to deal with tensions in the region.

Ok, now he's back in front of a huge crowd of his supporters...and now he's back on the immediate withdrawl kick.

1 day later, same rhetoric in front of HIS supporters:

On the Iraq war, Obama said he hopes President Bush will withdraw U.S. troops before the end of his presidency.
“We can’t wait 15 months, because too many of our young men and women are dying. We can’t wait 15 months, because we’re spending $10 billion to $12 billion every single month that could be spent on college scholarships, that could be spent on health care, that could be spent on infrastructure, that could be spent on clean energy,” Obama said, his voice rising.
More of the same...

8 1/2 months later before the press and all Americans:

“I’ve always said that the pace of withdrawal would be dictated by the safety and security of our troops and the need to maintain stability. That assessment has not changed,” he said. “And when I go to Iraq and have a chance to talk to some of the commanders on the ground, I’m sure I’ll have more information and will continue to refine my policies.”…

“My 16-month timeline, if you examine everything that I’ve said, was always premised on making sure that our troops were safe,” he said. “I said that based on the information that we had received from our commanders that one to two brigades a month could be pulled out safely, from a logistical perspective. My guiding approach continues to be that we’ve got to make sure that our troops are safe and that Iraq is stable.”
Ok, he's now addressing the American people and the press and he's again not sure about the immediate withdrawl of troops when he becomes President, even going as far as saying that he is being misstated.

I honestly do not know what to tell you if you still think the man has always said the same EXACT thing regarding the Iraq war. Because here are his quotes from this past year. And they are not even close to being the same. And yet you wonder why people don't take you seriously.

[Garyisajoke]

Exactly. And, it's only going to be compounded if something gets done pre-election time to bring down gas prices, etc.

Shit, Sinn... you broke up the rare quadruple-post.

[MrBogey]

The sheer idiocy of this statement stands on its own. Why don't you just squint into the camera and say "Bring it on"?

Obviously you are a homosexual! See how I rebutted your comment by calling into the record your cock-hoarding ways. Ergo I win. Better luck next time.

Now you call me a tool and we can continue this again.

Or you can actually argue your case.

[MrBogey]

Look at the non-rise in oil prices against the Euro.

I'm willing to bet you didn't actually look up the facts. Want to know why I'm sure? Because I did look them up.

http://www.hooversbiz.com/2008/05/07/the-price-of-oil-in-euros/
http://blog.adamnash.com/2008/01/05/statistics-matter-oil-dollars-euros-gold/

Now...want to rethink your argument? Hey, sometimes it's okay to assume. But it's always best to back down when you get your ass handed to you with facts.

"Their" country? Iraq wasn't Al-Queda's country until we invaded and deposed the #1 factor holding down terrorism in that region of the world.

Let's break this down. He said terrorism. You say AQ. You're both right...but you're still the asshole in this argument because you intentionally limited the scope of his statement in an attempt to prove him wrong. Saddam funded terrorism. Mainly terrorists who attacked Western pro-US targets. You may not see the forest for the trees but if your girlfriend is sucking cocks for heroin you don't rebut the taunts with "she hasn't sucked any cocks for crack!" You just come off as a tard.

None of my friends or old ROTC classmates died in Iraq. I don't have their blood to wipe on my shirt to rebut your bloody shirt. God willingly, they'll all make it back stateside okay though.

[Begbie]

Now...want to rethink your argument? Hey, sometimes it's okay to assume. But it's always best to back down when you get your ass handed to you with facts.

Oh, no you di n't!!! You gonna take that?!

[MrBogey]

He did apparently.

[Begbie]

He did apparently.

Yeah, I guess so.

Reminds me of Dilly.