BHO`s Latest: `400 Billion Dollar Civilian National Security Force`.

[Stalker2]

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Update: See WorldNetDaily (http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69784) - Obama’s ‘Big Brother’ vanishes from speech - ‘Civilian security force’ excised from ‘call to service’ transcript:
The stunning comments from Democrat Sen. Barack Obama that the United States needs a “civilian national security force” that would be as powerful, strong and well-funded as the half-trillion dollar United States Army, Marines, Navy and Air Force have mysteriously disappeared from published transcripts of the speech.
In the comments, Obama confirmed the U.S. “cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set.”
Campaign officials have declined to return any of a series of WND telephone calls over several days requesting a comment on the situation. Nor have they posted a transcript of the speech on their website.
But transcripts posted at both the Wall Street Journal and Denver Post do not have the critical comment that has raised such concern…(more (http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69784))

LINK:http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69784

LINK: http://forthardknox.com/2008/07/16/say-what-a-400b-national-security-force/


VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2p6867_pw&eurl=http://forthardknox.com/2008/07/16/say-what-a-400b-national-security-force/

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[FMDoug]

It's one thing to post half truths here, but come on already. This isn't even close. Why would Obama want to spend 400 bill on a civil national security force? Think about that. It serves no practical purpose and would not help his campaign. What gets me is this:

The lines are not included in a transcript of the prepared remarks published by the Denver Post and Wall Street Journal.

Don't you think this would be huge news? The guy who wants us out of the iraq war would spend that much money on basically a new military? Every major platform has been scrutinized on TV, radio, newspapers - and this one misses everyone's radar? Come on.

And without any sort of context, I would believe that Obama means he wants to use diplomacy and that is why he might have said he can't rely on the military. Which i don't think he would say at all.

Let's all use a little common sense here and talk about the big stories and not the made up ones.

Edit: i watched the video. He is calling for a stronger peace corp not a new military objective. Again, weak-false story.

[Capt.Caveman]

I hate this guy more and more by the day

[Voss's Tumor]

It's one thing to post half truths here, but come on already. This isn't even close. Why would Obama want to spend 400 bill on a civil national security force? Think about that. It serves no practical purpose and would not help his campaign. What gets me is this:



Don't you think this would be huge news? The guy who wants us out of the iraq war would spend that much money on basically a new military? Every major platform has been scrutinized on TV, radio, newspapers - and this one misses everyone's radar? Come on.

And without any sort of context, I would believe that Obama means he wants to use diplomacy and that is why he might have said he can't rely on the military. Which i don't think he would say at all.

Let's all use a little common sense here and talk about the big stories and not the made up ones.

Edit: i watched the video. He is calling for a stronger peace corp not a new military objective. Again, weak-false story.

I hate pretty much everything Obama stands for, but I gotta agree here.

[thetick130]

Not regarding this story at all, but Stalker might be the biggest creep on this board. Your photoshops are rediculous, and your wierd little conversations really disturb me on every kind of level. Keep it up.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Obama is a fucking commie.

We already have a civilian militia. Just hand out M4's, ammo, magazines, and let the local community's decide how to best deploy their local militia.

[Voss's Tumor]

Obama is a fucking commie.

We already have a civilian militia. Just hand out M4's, ammo, magazines, and let the local community's decide how to best deploy their local militia.

QFMFT

If there's an invasion from both coasts, the invading force will be stopped somewhere in the midwest by the true Americans. We'll come back and save you fucking liberal douches on the coasts once we make sure our shit's ok.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

QFMFT

If there's an invasion from both coasts, the invading force will be stopped somewhere in the midwest by the true Americans. We'll come back and save you fucking liberal douches on the coasts once we make sure our shit's ok.

Not all of us stuck behind enemy lines are commie-liberal pukes, sir.

[Voss's Tumor]

Not all of us stuck behind enemy lines are commie-liberal pukes, sir.

Good luck filling the ranks. :(

[d0uche_n0zzle]

With just a handful of dedicated Patriots, we shall be victorious against the Beast.

[Voss's Tumor]

With just a handful of dedicated Patriots, we shall be victorious against the Beast.

Army of One will take on a whole new meaning! :action-sm

[alclark]

If douche_nozzle's army doesn't take them down, then they'll be stopped in the mountains, just like in the Revolutionary War.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Army of One will take on a whole new meaning! :action-sm

Two people makes a fireteam, sir.

[WOWmagnet]

More big, bloated government.

[distortion9]

Obama is a fucking commie.

We already have a civilian militia. Just hand out M4's, ammo, magazines, and let the local community's decide how to best deploy their local militia.

You beat me to it.

Civilian Security Force is fucking CCW....and this stupid motherfucker wants to do away with it. What the shit is he talking about?!?!

[Budyzir]

Not all of us stuck behind enemy lines are commie-liberal pukes, sir.

:upp::yesyesyes::usa:

[DonTheTrucker]

Two people makes a fireteam, sir.

4 makes a squad.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

4 makes a squad.

Luckily, I have enough to equip a squad. :icon_mrgr

[WoodenPlank]

Luckily, I have enough to equip a squad. :icon_mrgr

Im sure I could scrape together a few companies around here.......
You should only need to see where I live to understand....

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Me thinks you could a lil better then that, sir.

Is Delta located at Bragg?

[WoodenPlank]

Me thinks you could a lil better then that, sir.

Is Delta located at Bragg?

I know not of this "Delta" you speak of......

[moegolden]

Drudge has put this link up in red print, so its getting plenty of interesting comments. "Brown shirts", etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

If we have the money within the budget, I don't see the big deal with such a proposal. Maybe this simply means expanding the National Guard, or altering what homeland security is.

I think we can all agree we'd rather see more defense money spent in the USA rather than Iraq. Are people just ruling this out as "big govt.", or do they realize it could lead to more jobs in our country?

[moegolden]

OK, now I realize this is old news. (interesting how Drudge suddenly finds it red print worthy like it is breaking - what an asshole with no integrity)

here is a conservative rebuttal
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/obamas_civilian_national_secur.html

EDIT: I altered headline to reflect it is indeed old.

[distortion9]

This has been posted here before and we all pretty much agreed...

We already have a "civilian domestic security force", it's called 2A supporting American gun owners that this colossal bag of cunt would like to fucking do away with.

[abudabit]

Yeah, seems a lot cheaper and more trustworthy to stop stealing our guns than to create some government force.

[Little Chuckie]

This kinda sounds like what they did in those less lighter sections of Philly...

Tt2yGzHfy7s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

[oandapartycock]

Wow, Drudge is really scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one? Couldn't find any more stories of McCainiacs self-mutilating themselves in the name of the GOP?

[abudabit]

Brown shorts? Don't you mean brown shirts?

[thekidslepthere]

I remember hearing a little something about Obama wanting to expand Americore, I think that's what it's called, but not to what extent.

But I totally missed this story back in July. I was on vacation and all I remember from that week was him in Europe a couple days later.

The first I really heard about this news was during his infomercial so maybe it's seen as newsworthy again.

I think it's interesting because where the fuck is the money for this coming from? Isn't that like a quarter or our national budget?

[patbattlefield]

Sounds an awful lot like the Gestapo...we have the FBI, we have local and state police...what purpose would this serve? Other than to circumvent our military.

[abudabit]

Que car crash images....

[THE FEZ MAN]

Sounds an awful lot like the Gestapo...we have the FBI, we have local and state police...what purpose would this serve? Other than to circumvent our military.

well if your going to enslave the populace, disarm them burn down churches and force us all to pray to mecca what a better way to do it than you own privet security forces that are immune to the constitution, and only serve the messiah

[Myhairygrundle]

^^^^^^^^

Fez man is right on this one. It starts with taking away our guns.


For some reason this idea brings to mind something like

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n62/ShaiYung/4-2-Black-Panther-Party-mee.jpg



Or this


http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6986/pvcccripsdr3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



I can see him wanting to take away gun rights unless you are a part of his "Civillain National Security Force." Then you are sworn to follow dear leader. Fuck him.







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[wes mantooth]

Mugabe part 2. I wonder when his land reform plan becomes official?

[Schmed]

QFMFT

If there's an invasion from both coasts, the invading force will be stopped somewhere in the midwest by the true Americans. We'll come back and save you fucking liberal douches on the coasts once we make sure our shit's ok.

No, by the time they made it, the coastal towns would be inhabited by a bunch of tories.

[Schmed]

Brown shorts? Don't you mean brown shirts?

That's a Michael Savage reference in regards to the violent gay fascist types roaming San Francisco.

[BeerBelly]

In 1921 Adolf Hitler formed his own private army called Sturm Abteilung (Storm Section). The SA (also known as stormtroopers or brownshirts) were instructed to disrupt the meetings of political opponents and to protect Hitler from revenge attacks. Captain Ernst Roehm of the Bavarian Army played an important role in recruiting these men, and became the SA's first leader.

Hitler's stormtroopers were often former members of the Freikorps (right-wing private armies who flourished during the period that followed the First World War) and had considerable experience in using violence against their rivals.

The SA wore grey jackets, brown shirts (khaki shirts originally intended for soldiers in Africa but purchased in bulk from the German Army by the Nazi Party), swastika armbands, ski-caps, knee-breeches, thick woolen socks and combat boots. Accompanied by bands of musicians and carrying swastika flags, they would parade through the streets of Munich. At the end of the march Hitler would make one of his passionate speeches that encouraged his supporters to carry out acts of violence against Jews and his left-wing political opponents.

When Ernst Roehm left Germany to work in Bolivia in 1925, Heinrich Himmler took over the leadership of the SA. However, in 1931 Hitler recalled Roehm to Germany and asked him to head the SA. In just over a year Roehm expanded it from 70,000 to 170,000 members. By 1934 the SA had grown to 4,500,000 men.

In 1933, General Werner von Blomberg, Hitler's minister of war, and Walther von Reichenau, chief liaison officer between the German Army and the Nazi Party, became increasingly concerned about the growing power of the SA. Ernst Roehm had been given a seat on the National Defence Council and began to demand more say over military matters. On 2nd October 1933, Roehm sent a letter to Reichenau that said: "I regard the Reichswehr now only as a training school for the German people. The conduct of war, and therefore of mobilization as well, in the future is the task of the SA.

Werner von Blomberg and Walther von Reichenau began to conspire with Hermann Goering and Heinrich Himmler against Roehm and the SA. Himmler asked Reinhard Heydrich to assemble a dossier on Roehm. Heydrich, who also feared him, manufactured evidence that suggested that Roehm had been paid 12 million marks by the French to overthrow Hitler.

Hitler liked Ernst Roehm and initially refused to believe the dossier provided by Heydrich. Roehm had been one of his first supporters and, without his ability to obtain army funds in the early days of the movement, it is unlikely that the Nazis would have ever become established. The SA under Roehm's leadership had also played a vital role in destroying the opposition during the elections of 1932 and 1933.

However, Adolf Hitler had his own reasons for wanting Roehm removed. Powerful supporters of Hitler had been complaining about Roehm for some time. Generals were afraid that the SA, a force of over 3 million men, would absorb the much smaller German Army into its ranks and Roehm would become its overall leader.

Industrialists, who had provided the funds for the Nazi victory, were unhappy with Roehm's socialistic views on the economy and his claims that the real revolution had still to take place. Many people in the party also disapproved of the fact that Roehm and many other leaders of the SA were homosexuals.

Adolf Hitler was also aware that Roehm and the SA had the power to remove him as leader. Hermann Goering and Heinrich Himmler played on this fear by constantly feeding him with new information on Roehm's proposed coup. Their masterstroke was to claim that Gregor Strasser, whom Hitler hated, was part of the planned conspiracy against him. With this news Hitler ordered all the SA leaders to attend a meeting in the Hanselbauer Hotel in Wiesse.

On 29th June, 1934. Hitler, accompanied by the Schutz Staffeinel (SS), arrived at Wiesse, where he personally arrested Ernst Roehm. During the next 24 hours 200 other senior SA officers were arrested on the way to Wiesse. Many were shot as soon as they were captured but Hitler decided to pardon Roehm because of his past services to the movement. However, after much pressure from Hermann Goering and Heinrich Himmler, Hitler agreed that Roehm should die. At first Hitler insisted that Roehm should be allowed to commit suicide but, when he refused, he was killed by two SS men.

The purge of the SA was kept secret until it was announced by Hitler on 13th July. It was during this speech that Hitler gave the purge its name: Night of the Long Knives (a phrase from a popular Nazi song). Hitler claimed that 61 had been executed while 13 had been shot resisting arrest and three had committed suicide. Others have argued that as many as 400 people were killed during the purge. In his speech Hitler explained why he had not relied on the courts to deal with the conspirators: "In this hour I was responsible for the fate of the German people, and thereby I become the supreme judge of the German people. I gave the order to shoot the ringleaders in this treason."

Roehm was replaced by Victor Lutze as head of the SA. Lutze was a weak man and the SA gradually lost its power in Hitler's Germany. The Schutz Staffeinel (SS) under the leadership of Himmler grew rapidly during the next few years, replacing the SA as the dominant force in Germany.

just replace the words jew and left wing with right wing

[Turfmower]

Its Brown shirts it the 2nd coming of the nazis

[patbattlefield]

its ok we're just a bunch of crazy nutjobs. it can't possibly happen here.

the devil isn't around every corner, but if you let your guard down and stop looking then you won't be ready when he is. freedoms only defense is constant vigilance. sadly, most of america has become like a lot of people on this forum...weak and complacent. so desperate to sound reasoned they expel all caution and convince themselves that their freedoms are safe. you tell yourself that this election doesn't matter and that anyone who gives a little more than a damn is just delusional and that it really doesn't make a difference. fuck you.


I'm off to vote.

[Earth2murf]

Its Brown skins it the 2nd coming of the nazis.