Affliction Banned discusion thread

[Capt.Caveman]

Hopefully we can get it the usual way if not anyone who is watching on ppv post here

[Fuck Crosby]

I'm watching the pre-fight thing, Aleksander Emelianenko won't be fighting this evening. Really wanted to see him fight

[askewcore]

Aleksander Emeilanko was not approved by the CA state athletic board and is not on the card anymore. Gary Goodridge takes his place.

FSN is broadcasting the one hour undercard right now.

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[Capt.Caveman]

vitor just ko'd martin with a vicious uppercut he looked good. Every thing looks good so far lets hope the ppv is on too
tvu player

[Capt.Caveman]

PAUL BUENTELLO VS. GARY GOODRIDGE

Round 1 - Some initial confusion, as Buentello and Goodridge both made appearances into the ring, and then were sent back to the dressing rooms. The action begins about 15 minutes past its scheduled time in a sparsely populated arena, as people are slowly filing into their seats. Few jabs, then stiff right from Buentello, followed by a second. Goodridge answers with a leg kick. Buentello lands three big uppercuts, as Goodridge is backed against the ropes. Goodridge circles off, and Buentello is in the corner, with the fighters clinched. They break, and return to the center of the ring. Uppercut by Buentello, then a missed knee. Moderate to slow pace from the sluggers. Goodridge lands a small leg kick. A body kick from Goodridge smacks through the arena, followed by a leg kick. Buentello throws a combo, but misses. More jabs by Buentello, leg kicks from Goodridge. Buentello clinches, lands uppercuts, body shots and elbows, then breaks the lock. More uppercuts and knees from Buentello, then Goodridge answers with an overhand right. More kicks land to the leg and body by Goodridge. Goodridge misses with a head kick. Buentello circles, and lands a spinning back kick. More uppercuts from Buentello that wobble Goodridge. Round closes, and MMAjunkie.com scores it 10-9, Buentello.

Round 2 - Buentello throws a body kick, followed by a left. Goodridge still looking to work the leg kicks, while Buentello is content to clinch, and score up the middle, which he does immediately with more uppercuts and a few elbows. Backing away, Buentello lands a nice combo and a stiff right. Still a moderate pace, and Goodridge lands a few of those kicks, then swings wildly, missing. More jabs from Buentello, that are landing sharply. The fighters trade wild blows briefly, then Goodridge clinches, looks for a takedown, and eats another uppercut for the effort. Buentello pushes Goodridge into the corner, lands a few foot stomps, then backs away. Overhead right from Goodridge, followed by a second, then clinches. Goodridge again misses with a takedown, then backs away. Strange breaks from the clinches, as the fighters just push away from each other, not looking to throw. Stiff jab from Buentello, followed by a nice string of punches that weaken Goodridge. Buentello steals a close round at the end according to MMAjunkie.com, 10-9.

Round 3 - Water on the mat in Goodridge's corner delays the start of the round. Leg kicks by Goodridge. Buentello clinches, and throws a few inside punches, and a few soft knees. Very silent crowd, with a few scattered boos for the tepid pace. Buentello lands more shots inside, controlling Goodridge's head in a clinch before breaking. Jabs again from Buentello, and Goodridge tries a high kick. Goodridge misses with a big left. Flying knee to the body by Buentello. Buentello is stalking now, pushing the pace to a back-peddling Goodridge. The crows responds, but an immediate clinch slows the action again. A few traded shots, and a break. Goodridge looks to be fading, battered and winded, but stays in the pocket. Buentello misses with a big right. Stiff left from Buentello, and a flying knee. Buentello controls a Thai clinch in the corner, but the action is sparsa. With seconds remaining, Buentello pushes forward, and the round comes to a close. The crowd voices its approval of the effort. MMAjunkie.com scores the round 10-9, and the fight 30-27 for Buentello. Paul Buentello def. Gary Goodridge via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27).

VITOR BELFORT VS. TERRY MARTIN

Round 1 - The arena has a substantially larger crowd at this time. Belfort receives a warm reception from those in attendance, though the commercial delay between the fighter introductions and start of the bout do not. Fighters move quickly forward, and Martin presses the pace with a few jabs. Belfort lands a nice kick, and chants of "Vitor" run through the crowd. Martin is stalking, but the action slows dramatically, and the chants turn to boos. Martin landing straight lefts before Belfort clinches, and ties Martin up in the corner. They break, and Martin stalks again, landing a stiff right punch. Brief flurry by both fighters. Martin continues to stalk, with Belfort defending, and moving away. Belfort moving away at every exchange, and landing single counters. A few single shots by both fighters, and the round closes. A close round, but MMAjunkie.com gives it Martin based on aggression, 10-9.

Round 2 - Martin again moving forward, pawing with jabs. Belfort again backs away. Nice body kick by Belfort, but Martin pushes forward again. Belfort lands a punch then kick, becoming more active. Martin grabs the leg, and scores a takedown, working from Belfort's guard. Slow action on the ground, Martin stands up. Flying knee caught Martin, and Belfort pounces. Martin wobbly, and a right uppercut and stiff left straight drops Martin into a seated position against the ropes, out cold. The crowd erupts instantly. Vitor Belfort def. Terry Martin via KO (strikes) -- Round

[Jims Rottweiler]

"Big" John McCarthy ought to stick to refereeing. His announcing skills suck.

[Capt.Caveman]

couture trigg big john mccarthy and glazer are annoucing

[Capt.Caveman]

"Big" John McCarty ought to stick to refereeing. His announcing skills suck.

he's just not an announcer, he knows what he's talking about but ehhhh it needs work

[Jims Rottweiler]

couture trigg big john mccarthy and glazer are annoucing

I miss Joe Rogan.

[Capt.Caveman]

I miss Joe Rogan.

me too

[Capt.Caveman]

they got michael buffer

[Capt.Caveman]

mike pyle vs jj ambrose(who) i know pyle i don't know ambrose

[Capt.Caveman]

Pyle by RNC rd 1 he dominated the fight from go. Ambrose is a young kid who was overmatched

[Capt.Caveman]

ha ha buffers mike cut out as he was announcing the winner

[askewcore]

I miss Joe Rogan.

He was the best

[Capt.Caveman]

they just said affliction 8 times in 10 seconds

[Capt.Caveman]

their mikes keep cutting out

[Capt.Caveman]

lil Nog vs Dewees

[Jims Rottweiler]

I didn't realize Fedor is only 31. I thought he was much older.

[Capt.Caveman]

all the mikes are out they cut to the spanish feed!!!!!!before that you could here all the techs argueing. maybe they should have spent some money on a tech crew.what a mickey mouse production

[Capt.Caveman]

mike are back on

[Jims Rottweiler]

all the mikes are out they cut to the spanish feed!!!!!!before that you could here all the techs argueing. maybe they should have spent some money on a tech crew.what a mickey mouse production

It IS a little embarrassing. I guess it ain't the UFC.

[Jims Rottweiler]

How did they get Herb Dean, John McCarthy AND Michael Buffer?

[Capt.Caveman]

How did they get Herb Dean, John McCarthy AND Michael Buffer?

mccarthey's one of the guys putting on the show. i'm assuming they gave dean a fuckload of money or he committed to affliction first and buffer was expensive

[Capt.Caveman]

wow nog knocked him the fuck out. lil nog needs to sign with the ufc. i know dewees isn't the bestg guy but nogs a tough fucker

[Capt.Caveman]

lil nog looks retarded

[Capt.Caveman]

the between fight shit is painful to listen to

[Capt.Caveman]

negao vs lindland

[Jims Rottweiler]

the between fight shit is painful to listen to

Yep. These guys sucked with Pride, and they haven't gotten any better. Minor Leagues at best.

[bigtobacco]

The Nog brothers both look like shit. I can't believe they are only in their early 30's -- they look like they heading to 50.

[bigtobacco]

Matt Lindland... apparantly a hell of public speaker. He could be the next Paul R. Nelson.

[Jims Rottweiler]

Too bad Lindland can't use those teeth.

[Capt.Caveman]

negao looks scared

[bigtobacco]

Wow, Lindland with the doube ax handle. He's looking sharp tonight.

[Jims Rottweiler]

Wow, Lindland with the doube ax handle. He's looking sharp tonight.

Definitely won round 1.

[Capt.Caveman]

lindland dominated rd 1 10-8

[Capt.Caveman]

negao rocked him but good job of lindland to battle back

[Capt.Caveman]

lindland won that rd but negao looked good early in the rd 10 -9

[Jims Rottweiler]

I have it 20-18 after 2.

[Capt.Caveman]

this looks like a sparring session now boooooo

[Jims Rottweiler]

Lindland won easy in a very boring fight.

[bigtobacco]

Yeah, the fight started out great, but fizzled into a boring turd of a contest. Slow and careless last round.

[Capt.Caveman]

lindland wins rd 3 10-9 \


lindland should win 30-26

[bigtobacco]

Lindland looks like he needs an oygen tank.

"He fought the law and the law won," what's with that goofy shit from Buffer?

[DanaReevesLungs]

Cheesy announcing by Buffer...."He fought the law and the law won." Ech!

[Capt.Caveman]

whitehead vs babalu this should be a good fight

[Capt.Caveman]

good rd.. very close i'g give a slight edge to babalu but it could have gone either way 10-9

[Capt.Caveman]

another close rd....babalu 10-9

[Jims Rottweiler]

I"ve got it even. Babalu needs to win this round.

[Capt.Caveman]

they keep going thru the ropes....cage

[Capt.Caveman]

their standing them up WAY to quick

[DanaReevesLungs]

Eh, not really impressed. Fucking ring sucks ass.

[Jims Rottweiler]

I give it to Babalu 29 28

[Capt.Caveman]

babalu wins rd 3 i have it 30-27 babalu but you can argue the other rds i just think babalu contoled the fight

[Capt.Caveman]

babalu 30-27 unan win he deserved it

[Capt.Caveman]

hominick vs young....this fight shoulda been on the undercard

[Capt.Caveman]

holy fuck there's still 5 more fights

[Capt.Caveman]

the guys 15-8 and their talking like he's gsp and the other guy is 9-7 and their making him out to be john fitch

[askewcore]

I wanna see Megadeth play.

At least there are alot of fights, I'm letting the technical glitches go since it's their first show. And I'm stealing it.

the guys 15-8 and their talking like he's gsp and the other guy is 9-7 and their making him out to be john fitch

Everyone on this show is the best fighter who ever lived....ever.

[bigtobacco]

We should be on the Barnett fight now -- these nobodies are bullshit.

[Jims Rottweiler]

The Pro Bowl for MMA? More like the old timers game.

[bigtobacco]

Eye of the Tornado? Excellent! I thought we were going to get some new stuff. Nice to see Mustaine still pushing the classics.

Still seems out of place on an mma show, though.

Didn't Megadeth do something similar with Bill Goldberg back in WCW? Maybe an intro song that was performed live on an old episode of Monday Nitro...

The guitar works sounds great.

[Capt.Caveman]

close rd very slow. i give it to barnett nice spinning kick 10-9

[Capt.Caveman]

WWWWOOOOWWWW!!!!!!!! Nice fuckin left hook!!! Barnett just knocked Rizzo the fuck out

[Capt.Caveman]

stop trying to act black josh...

[Capt.Caveman]

did he just say mofo

[Capt.Caveman]

arlovski vs rothwell

[DanaReevesLungs]

did he just say mofo

Sounded like he half said mofo and motherfucker, like mothofo

[Capt.Caveman]

hopefully they don't air the lazama vs levens fight before fedor vs sylvia

[Capt.Caveman]

arlovski 10-9 close rd

[DanaReevesLungs]

Fucking awesome round by Arlovski...10-8 Arlovski in Rd 2?

[Capt.Caveman]

wow great rd arlovski 10-9

[Jims Rottweiler]

Nice work by Arlovski. Finally a decent fight.

[Capt.Caveman]

wow nice!!!!Arlovski ko's Rothwell in the 3rd...great fight

[Capt.Caveman]

still think it was a mistake by the UFC to let Arlovski go. I wanna see him fight Fedor. He matches up well with him

[Jims Rottweiler]

still think it was a mistake by the UFC to let Arlovski go. I wanna see him fight Fedor. He matches up well with him

Yep it looks like the UFC might have let him go too early.

[Capt.Caveman]

Rothwell is a tough dude he got tagged a shitload of times and stayed up. He shoulda listened to Militech and kept his left hand up

[Jims Rottweiler]

Rothwell is a tough dude he got tagged a shitload of times and stayed up. He shoulda listened to Militech and kept his left hand up

He would have been better off faking an injury. He took quite a beating.

[Capt.Caveman]

enough fuckin highlights get to the fight already

[Capt.Caveman]

stoned steve austin?!?!?!

[Capt.Caveman]

I hope Trump has a stroke

[Jims Rottweiler]

stoned steve austin?!?!?!

That was hilarious that Buffer fucked up that intro. Nice.

[Capt.Caveman]

enough about megadeath

[Jims Rottweiler]

I hope Trump has a stroke

He's already cursed with that fucking hair.

[bigtobacco]

Poor old Michael Madsen. He's in attendance, but not on the celebrity roll call.

What an absolutely horrible placement for another song. Breaks the momentum the show finally had from the reenergized Arlovski fight.

[Capt.Caveman]

Fedor vs Sylvia about fuckin time

[Capt.Caveman]

He's ripping off Matt Hughes entry music...hoo hoo

[Jims Rottweiler]

How does Sylvia win this? He's so slow and plodding.

[Capt.Caveman]

It's about to start

[Fuck Crosby]

It's about to start

Sure there isn't going to be another Mega-death song, crappy promo or Michael Buffer to go?

[Jims Rottweiler]

This fight won't last to round 2.

[Capt.Caveman]

here we go

[Fuck Crosby]

Well.......that was quick

[DanaReevesLungs]

bwahahahaha....what a fucking JOKE!

[Capt.Caveman]

36 fuckin seconds!!!!RNC

[Jims Rottweiler]

that's why UFC didn't resign Sylvia.

[DanaReevesLungs]

Easiest $2million ever made.

[Jims Rottweiler]

800K to Sylvia for 36 seconds. Nice.

[Capt.Caveman]

fuck you trigg!! He's done nothing but bash/downplay the ufc since the show started. eat a dick

[Fuck Crosby]

was that don johnson on fedor's team?

[Capt.Caveman]

Fedor is ridiculous. Sylvia couldn't run away from Fedor like he does to everyone else. Fedor needs to be in the UFC wtf

[Capt.Caveman]

ok that was anti-climactic well i'm goin to bed peace niggas

[Jims Rottweiler]

I dispute that Fedor is the heavyweight champ for beating Tim Sylvia? Let him fight Rampage or Liddell. If he beats them this easily then I'll recognize him.

[askewcore]

I dispute that Fedor is the heavyweight champ for beating Tim Sylvia? Let him fight Rampage or Liddell. If he beats them this easily then I'll recognize him.

They are light heavys. He needs to beat Couture to take it in my eyes. Although he is the fucking man and you cant argue that, beating sylvia isnt a groundbreaking thing and doesnt crown him shit expcet the wammmmmmmmma champ or some shit.

[Gotti420]

I dispute that Fedor is the heavyweight champ for beating Tim Sylvia? Let him fight Rampage or Liddell. If he beats them this easily then I'll recognize him.

First of all, Chuck and Rampage are Light-Heavyweights. Second, Fedor would destroy Rampage and probably beat Chuck as well

[Jims Rottweiler]

They are light heavys. He needs to beat Couture to take it in my eyes. Although he is the fucking man and you cant argue that, beating sylvia isnt a groundbreaking thing and doesnt crown him shit expcet the wammmmmmmmma champ or some shit.

Except Couture is a little old. That won't make him the champion in my eyes either. He is a fucking beast though.

[Gotti420]

Except Couture is a little old. That won't make him the champion in my eyes either. He is a fucking beast though.

Well, Randy is about the only top heavyweight Fedor hasn't beaten, except Josh Barnett, so who else would you like him to fight?

[Jims Rottweiler]

Well, Randy is about the only top heavyweight Fedor hasn't beaten, except Josh Barnett, so who else would you like him to fight?

Maybe Nog or Gonzaga. There really are no UFC heavyweights who would be a favorite to beat him.

[mendozathejew]

Fedor needs to be in the UFC wtf

why? hes beat their champ 2.5 times.

Barnett, Arlovski, and Couture are his top challenges at this point. Im not even sure which one gives him the toughest fight right now. Barnett has really improved, Arlovski has some of his confidence back, and Randy is Randy.

[mendozathejew]

Maybe Nog

have you not seen their 2 and a half fights from Pride? Nog has only aged since those decisive losses. But if it werent for Fedor, Big Nog would be known as the bet HW in mma history.


Maybe if Werdum keeps improving his stand up. Hes becoming a beast.

[mendozathejew]

The Nog brothers both look like shit. I can't believe they are only in their early 30's -- they look like they heading to 50.
look at fights from just 4 years ago with Nog. hes aged incredibly since then from all of the wars. when Nog beat Sylvia after taking a beating and Goldberg said he wins another war Rogan said yeah and he wears it in his face.

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[Capt.Caveman]

why? hes beat their champ 2.5 times.

Barnett, Arlovski, and Couture are his top challenges at this point. Im not even sure which one gives him the toughest fight right now. Barnett has really improved, Arlovski has some of his confidence back, and Randy is Randy.

as usual your ufc bias shines:action-sm But like it or not UFC is the major leagues and everything else is just a high school game. that card was ok but the production announcers and just the overall feel of the card was ehh

[mendozathejew]

as usual your ufc bias shines:action-sm But like it or not UFC is the major leagues and everything else is just a high school game.

you cant honestly say that about the HW division. Im not loyal to any organization or promoter. what does production value have to do with the quality of the fighters? Big Nog is the only top 5 HW the UFC has. Just because the UFC is the best organization overall doesnt mean it owns the HW division. its only biased to say otherwise.

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[Capt.Caveman]

you cant honestly say that about the HW division. Im not loyal to any organization or promoter. what does production value have to do with the quality of the fighters? Big Nog is the only top 5 HW the UFC has. Just because the UFC is the best organization overall doesnt mean it owns the HW division. its only biased to say otherwise.

I agree that fedor, arlovski and barnett are tough sons of bitches that's why they need to be in the ufc. affliction can't sustain paying fighters what they pay and hiring megadeath. that card was ok but half the time the audio cut out then they had the spanish feed. ufc got some up and comers cain velascez(sp) and shane carwin are the future of the division. 2 good wrestlers who put people to sleep on their feet. but ufc could sign fedor barnett and arlovski and you'd say they should have signed rizzo. i'm just pointing out that you seem to bash ufc every chance you get and praise these lesser org's for doing something

[mendozathejew]

affliction isnt even an org really, its just a promotion. Just because UFC is the superior promotion in mma, doesnt mean it has the supreme weight class from top to bottom. right now, Affliction has a better HW division right now. It is the widely accepted fact.

and dana wouldnt really argue it. he didnt last night. he just repeated what you did, which is that the ufc is a superior org to everyone else. but he didnt say he has the best HWs. he cant.

I havent praised elite xc or any of the rest. I dont root for CEOs and promoters. you should hear the shit I saw about Gary Shaw, and HBO executives for that matter among boxing fans.

I wanted the UFC to sign Barnett. But personal shit between Dana and him stopped that. It was a big mistake. same with the Arlovski ane even Sylvia who I dislike. too much talent to just give up.

[Capt.Caveman]

affliction isnt even an org really, its just a promotion. Just because UFC is the superior promotion in mma, doesnt mean it has the supreme weight class from top to bottom. right now, Affliction has a better HW division right now. It is the widely accepted fact.

and dana wouldnt really argue it. he didnt last night. he just repeated what you did, which is that the ufc is a superior org to everyone else. but he didnt say he has the best HWs. he cant.

I havent praised elite xc or any of the rest. I dont root for CEOs and promoters. you should hear the shit I saw about Gary Shaw, and HBO executives for that matter among boxing fans.

I wanted the UFC to sign Barnett. But personal shit between Dana and him stopped that. It was a big mistake. same with the Arlovski ane even Sylvia who I dislike. too much talent to just give up.

I can agree with that. My whole thing is they all need to get past this and get the best fighters all in 1 place. wamma i think is gonna be the org for the affliction fights. I would love to see fedor in the octagon, I also think it was a mistake to cut arlovski and not sign barnett. but when you look at the fight game as a whole it's not even close. elite's a joke. ifl is good for grooming prospects but when your lwt champ got a beating from the likes of crazy horse and your big get is some n-word haymaker thrower from miami the writings on the wall

[pink soccer]

The affliction card felt like a minor league production. the sound was horrible, megadeath before the Main event was hack, and the announcing team seemed forced. I know this was their first show, UFC 1 wasnt the smoothest production, but there was so much hype for the card, I felt let down. if you spend 50 bucks on a UFC fight you know that you are getting a good "SHOW" even if the fights dont live up to the hype.

That being said, the UFC heavyweight division is poor. they need to bring back arlovski, sign fedor and his brother, and get the shit with randy worked out. that would make their heavyweight division almost as good as the light heavyweight. Imagine fedor, randy, nog, arlovski, and a reborn frank mir. throw in brock lesnar who is a huge draw already and you have for an exciting division.

[Mule Juice]

UFC heavyweight division has been poor for a long time. The fact that Tim Silvia held the title for so long is proof of that.