Exact date until XM's "Option" runs out?

[zagman76]

Does anyone know the exact date that Op has been counting down to?

[Steam]

Does anyone know the exact date that Op has been counting down to?

I would assume October 1 since that is when their first contract started up.

[zagman76]

I would assume October 1 since that is when their first contract started up.

I thought the 1st contract started Oct 4? Or was that just the date they picked to go live?

[Steam]

I thought the 1st contract started Oct 4? Or was that just the date they picked to go live?

That was the date they went live since it was the Monday. The 1st was the Friday. But I do remember that I stayed up until midnight on Thursday night (Friday morning) to listen to that prerecorded interview they did. The same interview they played all weekend and everyone got sick of in anticipation of that first live show on the 4th.

[Ballbuster1]

I think that was just the 1st show date. As I recall when I met O&A in NY back in
July of 04, Opie mentioned that they were under a 90 day no compete and couldn't
be back on the air until October.

[frankw]

How come Orbitcast or some other SatRad media outlet hasn't said a word about this? Very strange

[Kris_LTRMa]

I'm confused ... I missed some of last week's shows ... I thought Opie said at some point there were only 70-something days left on their contract. So what's the 81 days all about?

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah, Kris. They were in the 70's during the week. My guess is the option
runs out sooner than the end of September.

[roche]

Yeah, Kris. They were in the 70's during the week. My guess is the option
runs out sooner than the end of September.

On Wednesday Opie said 76 left.

[cokelogic]

Get Mel on the phone!

I don't like suspense. Here's the way it goes: If O&A go, I go. And I think there's a few million people who think the same thing.


And I'm hoping for "If O&A go, I go" shirt from Elmo. :action-sm

[roche]

I fucking despise speculation, but has anyone else noticed there are not any non XM commercials anymore?

[Steam]

Yeah, Kris. They were in the 70's during the week. My guess is the option
runs out sooner than the end of September.

Didn't he also say something about October?

Maybe the whatever days took into account some vacation days built in or something. I just think that it would defy all contract logic that it would end at some random time like sometime in September, especially when the contract itself started on October 1 and was then just renewed at whatever whim.

I would say that October 1 is a safe bet and if its wrong then you can flood my inbox with cock pics.

[Ballbuster1]

Didn't he also say something about October?

Maybe the whatever days took into account some vacation days built in or something. I just think that it would defy all contract logic that it would end at some random time like sometime in September, especially when the contract itself started on October 1 and was then just renewed at whatever whim.

I would say that October 1 is a safe bet and if its wrong then you can flood my inbox with cock pics.
I know nothing of this. My thought was that maybe the option to renew
expires before the end of the contract itself. Just guessing, that's all.

[Kris_LTRMa]

Get Mel on the phone!

I don't like suspense. Here's the way it goes: If O&A go, I go. And I think there's a few million people who think the same thing.


And I'm hoping for "If O&A go, I go" shirt from Elmo. :action-sm

I emailed XM this morning to "remind" them of that - they're going to lose a few listeners if O&A's contract is not picked up. Told them I have 3 subs and can easily download and/or go back to buying cd's for the music I want to hear.

I'm but one, but sometimes one speaks loud enough for others to wake up and start to take notice.

I fucking despise speculation, but has anyone else noticed there are not any non XM commercials anymore?

I don't miss those Ashley Madison commercials.

[kloraferm]

If XM doesn't renew them then they're just beyond stupid.

[Digital_Trauma]

I fucking despise speculation, but has anyone else noticed there are not any non XM commercials anymore?

I hadn't really thought about that, but I do know they play that dumb Nashville Star commercial all the time. I think that's an NBC Show.

[roche]

I don't miss those Ashley Madison commercials.

Like I said I hate speculation but wouldn't they be selling commercials for a show they wanted to keep?

[Brokeback Jimmy]

asshole voice

Well, I think the fact that XM hasn't exercised their option means they're done

/asshole voice


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[SwimConnerSwim]

Like I said I hate speculation but wouldn't they be selling commercials for a show they wanted to keep?

I've noticed it too. I first realized it when I didn't hear "Tell them about the discount Harry!" for about 4 months.

[Turfmower]

Are there commercials during Ron and Fez?

[kimothee]

The question is, how many commercials for non XM items are there across the board on the channels? Might be that commercials are down in general due to merger speculation.

[roche]

The question is, how many commercials for non XM items are there across the board on the channels? Might be that commercials are down in general due to merger speculation.

That is a good point. Does anyone that listens to the other channels have any feedback?

[Ball of Hate]

The Next Nashville Star commercial (NBC show) is also an XM16 commercial.

But yeah - I can't think of too many commercials on other channels, too.

[Kris_LTRMa]

That is a good point. Does anyone that listens to the other channels have any feedback?

Channel 16 only has XM-related commercials. I could be wrong, but I don't think I've heard anything other than XM-related commercials even on channels carrying CNN & Fox News

[Turfmower]

XM still has the Sponsor spotlight http://xmradio.com/sponsors/a-z.xmc

I pretty sure I heard a commercial for the Card scanner thingy this week but it might have been when i was listing to the show on Krock in my work truck.

[Dicktator]

I fucking despise speculation, but has anyone else noticed there are not any non XM commercials anymore?

I don't see the commercials on TV anymore either . But there was a really big display trailer at the Cruefest concert last week in Chicago.

[Mother Shucker]

Love the countdown clock.

[Kris_LTRMa]

The Next Nashville Star commercial (NBC show) is also an XM16 commercial.

But yeah - I can't think of too many commercials on other channels, too.

Yeah, the Nashville Star one is an XM16 commercial, not really a commercial for the NBC show. The winners from each week's show are interviewed on 16 at 8 PM Thursdays (and then rebroadcast a few times over the weekend) . The commercial you're hearing is more for that show than it is for the NBC show.

Love the countdown clock.

Like it much better than the red alert skin

[Turfmower]

Like it much better than the red alert skin

I haven't been in red alert for 2 weeks mine been in Yellow Discipline

[Steam]

Channel 16 only has XM-related commercials. I could be wrong, but I don't think I've heard anything other than XM-related commercials even on channels carrying CNN & Fox News

Highway 16 would only have XM commercials since the start because its one of their non-commercial stations.

I haven't listened to any of the stations that would have had non-XM commercials in a while so once again I'm useless on this subject.

[Kris_LTRMa]

I haven't been in red alert for 2 weeks mine been in Yellow Discipline

yeah, I'm back to professional...and hope to never see Red Alert ever again!

Highway 16 would only have XM commercials since the start because its one of their non-commercial stations.

I haven't listened to any of the stations that would have had non-XM commercials in a while so once again I'm useless on this subject.

well, that explains why I haven't heard anything other than XM-related commercials on Highway 16. :haha7:

[oandapartycock]

Love the countdown clock.

Totally. Thanks Zag!

[BigBuffaloFan]

That was the date they went live since it was the Monday. The 1st was the Friday. But I do remember that I stayed up until midnight on Thursday night (Friday morning) to listen to that prerecorded interview they did. The same interview they played all weekend and everyone got sick of in anticipation of that first live show on the 4th.


I remember doing that.

[Aaron Burrito]

Is it possible that XM is letting the contract expire because the merger will have officially been approved before the contract ends and therefore OnA would be signing their new contract with Sirius?

[Shane1V]

I emailed XM this morning to "remind" them of that - they're going to lose a few listeners if O&A's contract is not picked up. Told them I have 3 subs and can easily download and/or go back to buying cd's for the music I want to hear.

I'm but one, but sometimes one speaks loud enough for others to wake up and start to take notice.

I don't miss those Ashley Madison commercials.

Yeah, we need to organize soon and make sure we are heard. It worked VERY well when they were suspended.

[FloridaDave]

Whatever the 76 days left (as of last Wednesday) means, that countdown ends Tuesday, September 30th. I thought i heard Op say that was how many days were left on their contract with XM, but i dont fuckin know.

I thought that when Vampire Bob was on the day E-Lo jumped ship and went to the dark side, Bob said that the time when XM could pick up the option had already passed.

Either that it was how many days it was before Oprah needed some Cream in her coffee.... :shrug:

[LiddyRules]

Yeah, we need to organize soon and make sure we are heard. It worked VERY well when they were suspended. But who are we going to e-mail? XM whose executives are jumping ship in droves? Sirius who we don't know who's going to be responsible? Mel?

[WhyWontItGrow]

It doesn't seem XM doesnt want to renew their contract. When your that in the red, having to renogotiate loans, and borrowing a hundred million to keep your company going, Priorities are number 1. I dont know this for sure, but it seems like XM is just trying to stay afloat to get bought out. If the merger doesn't happen, Sirius will be a monopoly either way, and thats what the FCC need to see. So, in my opinion, if the merger doesnt happen, your going to need to get rid of your reciever anyway. I know Opie and Anthony will be fine, they will get new jobs, and be with CBS. So lets just pray for the merger, and everything will be a OK

[zagman76]

It doesn't seem XM doesnt want to renew their contract. When your that in the red, having to renogotiate loans, and borrowing a hundred million to keep your company going, Priorities are number 1. I dont know this for sure, but it seems like XM is just trying to stay afloat to get bought out. If the merger doesn't happen, Sirius will be a monopoly either way, and thats what the FCC need to see. So, in my opinion, if the merger doesnt happen, your going to need to get rid of your reciever anyway. I know Opie and Anthony will be fine, they will get new jobs, and be with CBS. So lets just pray for the merger, and everything will be a OK

I don't think XM is hurting - their stock still trades higer than Sirius. They have not declared bankruptcy. Typically when an impending merger like this is approaching, companies freeze all spending.

IMO (and this is purely just my opinion) - even if the merger decision/approval goes past the end of their contract, they will keep O&A as-is (no raises at first), because part of XMs promise to customers and to regulatory/decision making powers, was that there would be no major change made to the platform until all merger approvals were attained. Dropping O&A before a merger decision was reached would be a HUGE mistake by XM, as they would loose 20-30 subscribers.

Again, my opinion, but like Cops/Teachers/etc, they would keep O&A on without a contract, and work out some sort of payment / future payment plan.

[ASSMAN]

are O&A even getting payed by XM right now? I know they were talking about not getting paychecks

[Turfmower]

Worst of today? is the clock right?

[Razor Roman]

I still hear commercials for GreenPass or whatever that truck driver thing is sometimes on 202.

I remember it cause it reminds me of the Canyonero song on The Simpsons

[DR. Jimcy M.E.]

The station next door to me was sold to *******.


I got nothing.

[kloraferm]

Is it possible that XM is letting the contract expire because the merger will have officially been approved before the contract ends and therefore OnA would be signing their new contract with Sirius?
Ugh that just sounds, ugh

[richwithhatred]

i'm thinking that today's day off and the several more over the last month or so is the boys using up all vacation time and sick time prior to the end of their contract. Think about it - when you are leaving a job, isn't that the first thing you do is use up all your days off?

[Lietmotiv]

From a business point of view perhaps it's much less conspiratorial. If XM and Sirius merge (and they probably will) they won't have two big morning shows competing. Howard will get the 6-noon spot, R&F and then O&A 3-7. If XM signs them to a deal now at the 6-11 slot then Sirius may have to honor that time-slot and cause issues with both shows on at the same time. Especially if they get rid of one of the NY studios to save money which they probably will do.

So I see hope in this. XM is stalling as long as possible until the merger goes or doesn't go. I personally like them better in the afternoon as it seems everyone on the show hates the morning time slot.

But I could be wrong and they are trying to get rid of O&A. Mel can't be happy they re-upped with CBS.

[SOS]

i'm thinking that today's day off and the several more over the last month or so is the boys using up all vacation time and sick time prior to the end of their contract. Think about it - when you are leaving a job, isn't that the first thing you do is use up all your days off?

Nice theory but it is wrong. ;)

[Razor Roman]

So I see hope in this. XM is stalling as long as possible until the merger goes or doesn't go. I personally like them better in the afternoon as it seems everyone on the show hates the morning time slot.What are you basing this on? Just a gut feeling? Anthony seems to like having the same schedule as his girlfriend, and Opie and Anthony have both stressed, repeatedly, that morning drive is THE time to be doing radio.


But I could be wrong and they are trying to get rid of O&A. Mel can't be happy they re-upped with CBS.The CBS thing was only for another year, which would take them through until April. If it really was a problem and O&A were forced to choose between afternoons on XiriuM and mornings on a few CBS/Citadel stations, and they wanted to stay with satellite, I am sure they could work an arrangement out with both companies where O&A are either allowed to finish out their contract at CBS (when CBS hired The Radio Chick for afternoon drive CBS and Sirius agreed to allow her to finish out her Sirius contract, she decided she didn't want to) or I'm sure CBS will be happy to save the money and allow them to part ways early.

I'm sure they are doing well enough that CBS has kept them on, but if they were setting the world on fire like they were in 2000/2001 (ratings wise) then surely there would be a greater rush now that Kidd Chris and John Cook are out at WYSP to get them back there, as well as finding a spot for them somewhere on WJFK. With the comments Opie has made recently, I'd think they'd pick mornings on CBS over a satellite exclusive show now. (Like when they were talking about Bill Donohue being on the show he said "thats when we were only on satellite, so really no one was listening.")

Again, that's pure speculation, but at this point the guys have enough money that they can pick their gig based not only on salary, but also what they think they will enjoy doing t he most, and more and more, it seems they prefer to do a terrestrial morning show, that talks about news, current events and pop culture, rather than the old afternoon drive "boobs and beer" show they used to do. (before anyone jumps down my throat for that comment, boobs and beer were always what I turned off on O&A, I know they were more than that, thats why they are the only 'shock jocks' I have ever liked, period.)

[goat999]

I fuckin hope they're not leaving XM, cause I'm stuck in fucking Springfield, Il. and do not sit in front of a computer all day (can't catch the live stream). But anyway, 202 is still running Maxiderm commercials constantly and Adam & Eve, so I'm not seeing the commercial thing. But, we'll speculate anyway.

[gilpdawg]

I still hear commercials for GreenPass or whatever that truck driver thing is sometimes on 202.

I remember it cause it reminds me of the Canyonero song on The Simpsons

I heard that fucking annoying cunt doing the d-y-n-o-v-i-t-e.com spot one day last week. I call bravo sierra on the commercials meaning anything at all to this topic. I'm still worried though.

[dms964]

I don't think XM is hurting - their stock still trades higer than Sirius. They have not declared bankruptcy. Typically when an impending merger like this is approaching, companies freeze all spending.

IMO (and this is purely just my opinion) - even if the merger decision/approval goes past the end of their contract, they will keep O&A as-is (no raises at first), because part of XMs promise to customers and to regulatory/decision making powers, was that there would be no major change made to the platform until all merger approvals were attained. Dropping O&A before a merger decision was reached would be a HUGE mistake by XM, as they would loose 20-30 subscribers.

Again, my opinion, but like Cops/Teachers/etc, they would keep O&A on without a contract, and work out some sort of payment / future payment plan.


XM is not only hurting, they are in agony. Their stock does not trade higher than Sirius, the price of an individual share does not matter, SIRI as a company has a higher value than XMSR, and that's even with the merger propping up XM's value. XM is borrowing money at high rates just to pay off earlier loans. XM has basically stopped advertising and is losing execs in an attempt to stay afloat until the merger is done. Their biggest fear is that Sirius decides the FCC's wishes are too tough and they decide to walk away from the merger. I'm not sure Sirius could stay in business without a merger, but I'm damn sure without one XM radios will be silent within 12 months.

[Klaus]

I can't believe they would pick CBS over XM given the choice. I am not a FM hater but I enjoy the XM show so much more then CBS. Personally, I wouldn't be able to listen to either without XM due to my location. I just hope something can be worked out with Mel/Stern to keep them on XM.

[Phi Mu Alpha]

Mel is to much of prick to try to work something out, if they keep Hoo Hoo then I say satelite radio is ruined

[Situps5150]

Again, my opinion, but like Cops/Teachers/etc, they would keep O&A on without a contract, and work out some sort of payment / future payment plan.

But O and A have a contract with XM that XM is not picking up, so I doubt O and A will keep working after contract expires unlike Howard did years ago at Krock, but he did not have an option that Krock did not pick up. Maybe its the merger there waiting for, but O and A have not been paid in months, XM did not pick up there contract on the date given, and a couple of weeks ago Anthony eluded to the fact that his comp accounts for his family have been cancelled. Maybe the writing is on the wall.

[snuts]

Did anyone else notice that when you go to XM online to listen to the show that it doesn't have the Virus logo on the description bar at the top of the page. It says you are listening to the Opie and Anthony show but it has the NHL Home Ice Logo instead. Not sure if that means a damn thing but I noticed it today.

[Ballbuster1]

Did anyone else notice that when you go to XM online to listen to the show that it doesn't have the Virus logo on the description bar at the top of the page. It says you are listening to the Opie and Anthony show but it has the NHL Home Ice Logo instead. Not sure if that means a damn thing but I noticed it today.
Been mentioned before. Not sure there's anything to read into that yet.

[andrewvonawesom]

I can't believe they would pick CBS over XM given the choice. I am not a FM hater but I enjoy the XM show so much more then CBS.

No one in their right mind would pick XM over CBS. Unless XM is offering each of them an insane amount of money you would have to be a fool to go to satellite radio when you still have the choice of doing a terrestrial show. Other than the fact that you would hear them say fuck a few hundred times a day little changes.

[cakelogic]

I can't believe they would pick CBS over XM given the choice. I am not a FM hater but I enjoy the XM show so much more then CBS. Personally, I wouldn't be able to listen to either without XM due to my location. I just hope something can be worked out with Mel/Stern to keep them on XM.

I can believe it, if it means working without a contract I can see them walking away from XM.

Writting is one the wall, Ron B. getting everyone new jobs with other companies just screams how bad it is going to be.

[gilpdawg]

Been mentioned before. Not sure there's anything to read into that yet.
I think some of the other logos are screwed up as well. Most likely nothing but incompetence.

[jhaxsterbator]

Too early to say Your Mom's Box?

[Ballbuster1]

I think some of the other logos are screwed up as well. Most likely nothing but incompetence.
And from XM that should be a surprise? :rolleyes:

[Fendbass22]

XM music absolutely blows. OnA are the only reason I have two subs. This whole merger deal I think will start to get consumers to say fuck this. I bet a lot of subs are just paying for it monthly and not really thinking about it but the second they have to do ANY sort of effort to keep XM they will cancel rather than deal with whatever bullshit is going to be pushed on the consumer due to merger.

[DonTheTrucker]

XM is not only hurting, they are in agony. Their stock does not trade higher than Sirius, the price of an individual share does not matter, SIRI as a company has a higher value than XMSR, and that's even with the merger propping up XM's value. XM is borrowing money at high rates just to pay off earlier loans. XM has basically stopped advertising and is losing execs in an attempt to stay afloat until the merger is done. Their biggest fear is that Sirius decides the FCC's wishes are too tough and they decide to walk away from the merger. I'm not sure Sirius could stay in business without a merger, but I'm damn sure without one XM radios will be silent within 12 months.


This is like saying one turd is shinier than another. Both companies go under without this merger. And the merger will probably only buy them 5 years. Satellite radio was doomed from the start. It's a great idea, but the percentage of people who will pay for something they maybe use 15 minutes a day is very slim.

I will say though, I've been in a few Hyundai dealerships in the past few weeks. They push the SHIT out of XM, and every single Hyundai built in the past few years has XM already installed and ready to activate. Too bad GM doesn't do the same thing, considering that Onstar shares the XM satellites.

[zagman76]

...oops... I accidentally typed in 10/10/2008 instead of 10/01/2008 for the countdown clock! :icon_redf