Savage/ Autism Rant (ATTACK?) - MERGED

[moegolden]

sounds like he's paraphrasing Norton's old bit on OCD, but this is serious business, because austism is getting out of control, and influencing people's opinions this way may affect public research funding . this kind of smear and misinformation is much worse than any feelings Imus may have hurt.


"I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, 'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot.' " -- Michael Savage


http://wcbstv.com/topstories/michael.savage.autism.2.775519.html

http://autism.about.com/b/2008/07/20/savage-successfully-sucks-time-money-and-energy-from-autism-community.htm







p.s., Michael Savage is/was a gay pedophile....literally.

http://www.christianparty.net/michaelsavage.htm

Radar Magazine actually printed a photocopy of the letters, written on Univ. of Hawaii letterhead and obtained from Ginsberg (a brilliant poet who was a bigtime NAMBLA supporter)

[moegolden]

also a response
http://autism-news-beat.com/?p=70
This was not the first time that Savage, who holds master’s degrees in medical botany and medical anthropology, and a PhD in “nutritional ethnomedicine”, has shown his ignorance of autism. Last month, Dr. Savage, née Michael Weiner, said “In my day if a kid shot his mouth off in class we wasn’t called autistic, he was called a pain in the neck.” Autism, said Savage, is a racket for poor families to collect disability payments from the government. In Savage’s sad little world, there is no ASD or ADD: “To me, there is only one disease they all have - S.T.U.P.I.D.” The ignorance is not confined to autism - he once said that 99 percent of all depression “is rage turned inside.”

Either Savage skipped class the days his professors talked about “medicine”, or he’s an entertainer who doesn’t care who he hurts. I vote for the latter.

Chances are, Savage knows that autism is a real disorder, with a strong genetic component, and that changes in diagnostic criteria have led to a spike in diagnoses over the last 20 years. But how boring is that? How many of his eight million listeners would sit through 15 minutes of their hero going all Dr. Phil, telling us that autistic children need understanding and accommodation? So much more entertaining to joke about smacking the handicapped.

The need to entertain first, then inform, has long been a favorite subject of media watchdogs and scholars. In Amusing Ourselves to Death, published 20 years ago, Neil Postman showed us how mass media, primarily television, convert otherwise serious conversations into entertainment. Treating autism as entertainment, whether it’s calling the disorder a scam, or peeking into alternative medical clinics to see what some parents do to their kids, preempts serious discussion. Shocking, unverified anecdotes are elevated over dry scientific consensus. Preposterous medical claims are presented for their shock value, with little effort given to refutation. Over time, the public loses its appreciation for serious issues, as once serious issues morph into entertainment.

[Voss's Tumor]

Autism, said Savage, is a racket for poor families to collect disability payments from the government.

So the fact that the government does barely anything to help families with autistic kids isn't real either?

I hope this fuck's wife gives birth to Autistic quintuplets. After reading this I would gladly go to jail for kicking this guy's ass on live TV.

[moegolden]

So the fact that the government does barely anything to help families with autistic kids isn't real either?

I hope this fuck's wife gives birth to Autistic quintuplets. After reading this I would gladly go to jail for kicking this guy's ass on live TV.

Your point has me thinking even the bigger name conservatives will be calling Savage out on this. O'Reilly and Hannity are already at odds with the guy, (not to mention reasonable on issues like this one) so they may as well leap at this gaping hole of a chance to eliminate his audience (and poach from it).

[Edible Napalm]

Fuck him, he's a hate monger anyways.

[Deadbent]

He's probably just off by 5-10%

[Voss's Tumor]

He's probably just off by 5-10%

Pah-haps a bit more den dat

[FellowTraveler]

Savage is a douche that got his ass kicked when he was growing up a few too many times. But, I guess he is right. He does have a microphone in front of him.

[Voss's Tumor]

The fact that GD hasn't posted something yet can mean only one thing:

He's headed to this guy's office with a case of beer and a Louisville Slugger.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

What a fucking maroon.

[Mother Shucker]

Umm, he is a SHOCK JOCK. It is his job to get you rubes upset with what he says. Nappy headed ho's.

[mascan42]

So much more entertaining to joke about smacking the handicapped.

Hello, exactly!

[Three Hole Puncher]

Michael Savage was born Michael Alan Weiner

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Book-Homeopathy-Michael-Weiner/dp/0895296918

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51X06ERMJWL._SL500_BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg

The guy believes that magical shaken water is medicine... you expect anybody this stupid to properly understand something as complex as autism?

[Glenn Dandy]

The fact that GD hasn't posted something yet can mean only one thing:

He's headed to this guy's office with a case of beer and a Louisville Slugger.

was just looking for my keys.... brb.:icon_eek:

[Jolie]

I'm sure this will be a HIGHLY unpopular opinion but...

He's an offensive moron. But hes an offensive moron who basically should be able to say whatever he wants, if we want O&A to be able to say whatever they want. We don't have to like it, he can be idiotic and reprehensible and the great thing is, we don't have to listen to it either.

[Three Hole Puncher]

I'm sure this will be a HIGHLY unpopular opinion but...

He's an offensive moron. But hes an offensive moron who basically should be able to say whatever he wants, if we want O&A to be able to say whatever they want. We don't have to like it, he can be idiotic and reprehensible and the great thing is, we don't have to listen to it either. Did I miss something? Did anybody suggest that the guy should be censored.

Does criticism = censorship in Liberaland?

[Voss's Tumor]

I'm sure this will be a HIGHLY unpopular opinion but...

He's an offensive moron. But hes an offensive moron who basically should be able to say whatever he wants, if we want O&A to be able to say whatever they want. We don't have to like it, he can be idiotic and reprehensible and the great thing is, we don't have to listen to it either.

O&A don't have PhD's and publicly make statements committing medical blaspheme. He's not trying to be funny here, he's saying that children with Autism are simply bad kids who need wheat grass and spankings!

If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.

And I know he's a nutritionist and not a doctor, but for a nutritionist not to know the fucking HUGE spectrum of food allergies that come with Autism... Is negligent to say the least. I'm sure they're just playing dead after eating peanut butter or chocolate to get attention?

[Death Metal Moe]

He's a fucking cunt. Not because of this recent outburst, just in general.

He screams louder and louder, saying more and more outrageous things until someone notices. Hey, congrats bro. You called kids with an actual sickness idiots.

All these talk show hosts are pretty much the same. They all are fear mongerers and loud mouthes. Have fun being spoon fed your opinions red states.

[Jolie]

Did I miss something? Did anybody suggest that the guy should be censored.

Does criticism = censorship in Liberaland?

sounds like he's paraphrasing Norton's old bit on OCD, but this is serious business, because austism is getting out of control, and influencing people's opinions this way may affect public research funding . this kind of smear and misinformation is much worse than any feelings Imus may have hurt.

O&A don't have PhD's and publicly make statements committing medical blaspheme. He's not trying to be funny here, he's saying that children with Autism are simply bad kids who need wheat grass and spankings!

If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.


Three Hole Puncher: Unless I'm way off the mark in my interpretation of these comments, then yes, it seems people DO think he should be censored.

[Three Hole Puncher]

O&A don't have PhD's and publicly make statements committing medical blaspheme. He's not trying to be funny here, he's saying that children with Autism are simply bad kids who need wheat grass and spankings!

If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.

And I know he's a nutritionist and not a doctor, but for a nutritionist not to know the fucking HUGE spectrum of food allergies that come with Autism... Is negligent to say the least. I'm sure they're just playing dead after eating peanut butter or chocolate to get attention? Since when are you not allowed to go on TEEVEE and spout medical blasphemy?

Shit... Oprah devotes like a show a week to medical nonsense.

[Voss's Tumor]

Three Hole Puncher: Unless I'm way off the mark in my interpretation of these comments, then yes, it seems people DO think he should be censored.

I don't think he should be censored, I think as someone with the educational background to know better he should be able to be legally held accountable for defamation suits from the Autism community for damn sure, though. I'd consider it similar to a malpractice suit against an MD or Lawyer

Since when are you not allowed to go on TEEVEE and spout medical blasphemy?

Shit... Oprah devotes like a show a week to medical nonsense.

I know, it's just a hot button issue for me. This is the recklessness that should get a DJ fired though, not fucking in a church.

[Jolie]

I don't think he should be censored, I think as someone with the educational background to know better he should be able to be legally held accountable for defamation suits from the Autism community for damn sure, though. I'd consider it similar to a malpractice suit against an MD or Lawyer



I know, it's just a hot button issue for me. This is the recklessness that should get a DJ fired though, not fucking in a church.

He spouted his opinion, why should that get a guy fired? Yes, its a completely stupid opinion, but hes allowed to be stupid. He didn't HURT anyone by saying that, any more than Imus hurt anyone by calling them nappy headed hoes. Neither should get fired for it.

As for defamation suits - there again, you are being the Hurtful Word Police. Should I sue O&A for calling women holes? Theres so much more to me than that! Its hurtful! They should know better! It doesn't sound like hes presenting anything as "fact" - hes just spouting a stupid opinion thats in really bad taste.

btw, do you know how hard it is for a person like me to defend a conservative douche like him in the first place? I feel dirty.

[thetick130]

He spouted his opinion, why should that get a guy fired? Yes, its a completely stupid opinion, but hes allowed to be stupid. He didn't HURT anyone by saying that, any more than Imus hurt anyone by calling them nappy headed hoes. Neither should get fired for it.

As for defamation suits - there again, you are being the Hurtful Word Police. Should I sue O&A for calling women holes? Theres so much more to me than that! Its hurtful! They should know better! It doesn't sound like hes presenting anything as "fact" - hes just spouting a stupid opinion thats in really bad taste.

btw, do you know how hard it is for a person like me to defend a conservative douche like him in the first place? I feel dirty.

I gotta say that for one of the first times, I agree with Jolie the filthy liberal. If you don't like it, turn the dial and ignore it.

[Three Hole Puncher]

He spouted his opinion, why should that get a guy fired? Yes, its a completely stupid opinion, but hes allowed to be stupid. He didn't HURT anyone by saying that, any more than Imus hurt anyone by calling them nappy headed hoes. Neither should get fired for it.

As for defamation suits - there again, you are being the Hurtful Word Police. Should I sue O&A for calling women holes? Theres so much more to me than that! Its hurtful! They should know better! It doesn't sound like hes presenting anything as "fact" - hes just spouting a stupid opinion thats in really bad taste.

btw, do you know how hard it is for a person like me to defend a conservative douche like him in the first place? I feel dirty.

It might make you feel better if you go with the notion that you're not defending said douche... but rather you're defending the First Amendment, and you're defending everybody's God-given right to say dumb shit, and be a douche.

[gleet]

O&A don't have PhD's and publicly make statements committing medical blaspheme.

Following their lead, I cured my AIDS with a couple of Tylenol.

Savage is not a conservative. He does an act of what he thinks a conservative talk show shock jock host would sound like. He fools plenty of people. When there is no buzz about him, he starts some shit. Over and over.

[Hoagie]

Savage really is an idiot. The answer isn't to have parents yelling at the kid to start acting right. The answer is allow the parents to drown them in a river thus eliminating the burden.

[Edible Napalm]

I know I chimed in already, but....

As someone with Aspergers I gotta say I really don't care what savage said, nor do I think he should be fired or anything. He's an idiot, idiots say dumb, uninformed shit all time.

[moegolden]

some of his advertisers are probably going to quit the show, so that will be the censorship part.

[SaltyDelights]

Autism is over-diagnosed by doctors; parents accept it instead of looking for more practical reasons for their childrens behaviour.

Any logically-thinking person knows this is what Weiner meant. It's the way he said it that's the problem. I hope he doesn't apologize and I hope WOR doesn't pull a Moonves by cowardly firing him because of pressure from a tiny special interest group. I actually hope he repeats what he said and tells the Autistics to go screw! But he's already backpeddling and making excuses for what he said.

On a related note, after reading Edible Napalm's post I went to 'Pedia to read the description of Aspergers. It sounds like I could have it! Am I running to the doctor? Nah.

[Chino Kapone]

everytime i have read the title to this thread I keep thinking...

"who cares what a hockey player has to say about autism" :idontknow

[Larz]

Autism is over-diagnosed by doctors; parents accept it instead of looking for more practical reasons for their childrens behaviour.



Absolutely. Its also a fantastic means to game the social security/disabilty system.

"My child is acting like an asshole. Please pay me."

Thankfully savage is exposing this horseshit for what it is.

[WOWmagnet]

Liberals censor. It's what they do.

[Vyce]

On a related note, after reading Edible Napalm's post I went to 'Pedia to read the description of Aspergers. It sounds like I could have it! Am I running to the doctor? Nah.

Dude, "I have Asperger's" is just the new hipster codeword for "I'm an antisocial cunt."

[Three Hole Puncher]

Autism is hack. If you really want your obnoxious brat to be special, you've got to go with the 'Indigo child' angle...

Indigo children refers to a New Age belief that some children, especially those born after the late 1970s, represent a higher state of human evolution. The term itself is a reference to the belief that such children have an indigo colored aura. Beliefs concerning the exact nature of Indigo children vary, with some believing that they have paranormal abilities such as the ability to read minds, and others that they are distinguished from non-Indigo children merely by more conventional traits such as increased empathy and creativity.

Jenny McCarthy's pain-in-the-balls kid was an "Indigo Child"... until Jenny figured out that the autism gimmick could get her on Oprah, so she went with that. But she eventually got tired of that too, so she "cured" her kid's autism by killing the yeast fungus in his intestines. :nuts:

[Jolie]

Autism is hack. If you really want your obnoxious brat to be special, you've got to go with the 'Indigo child' angle...



Jenny McCarthy's pain-in-the-balls kid was an "Indigo Child"... until Jenny figured out that the autism gimmick could get her on Oprah, so she went with that. But she eventually got tired of that too, so she "cured" her kid's autism by killing the yeast fungus in his intestines. :nuts:

Get with the times. Its now the Crystal Children who are being born.

http://www.starchild.co.za/what.html

[Voss's Tumor]

I just think no one posting here has any real experience with Autism, Aspergers, or Praeter Willies. When you encounter a kid who is truly affected it's a plain as seeing a cast and knowing he has a broken arm.

These are not made up diseases, they have very real non-psychological symptoms, very different blood chemical levels, and must be treated in very different ways both bio-chemically and psychologically.

The confusion comes because unlike something like Down's where you either have the chromosome or you don't, Autism can manifest anywhere from very light (usually Aspergers is considered very low-impact on the "spectrum) to extremely severe (think Rain Man without all the social and physical acuity, or math skills)

A kid that goes from a 400 word vocabulary to not speaking for the next 20 years is not just "Acting out". This guy's a douche and if Imus can get jacked because Rev. Al has a platform I'd love it if the same legal courtesy could be applied to the parents of kids with a true medical disorder.

[SaltyDelights]

Dude, "I have Asperger's" is just the new hipster codeword for "I'm an antisocial cunt."Now you're just describing a typical O&A fan.:action-sm

From the looks of it, there were no more than 12 people at the protest. O&A fans hold bigger rallies.:action-sm

[moegolden]

isn't one of the big wackbag guys the parent of an autistic child? has he weighed in here?

[Voss's Tumor]

isn't one of the big wackbag guys the parent of an autistic child? has he weighed in here?

Glenn Dandy. He's probably busy, you know, providing for his child that no one but him gives a shit about.

[Plunkies]

I agree with Michael Savage. Also, paraplegics are bullshit too. Get off your ass you lazy fucking douche!! You HAVE legs, use them you prick!

[Vyce]

I just think no one posting here has any real experience with Autism, Aspergers, or Praeter Willies. When you encounter a kid who is truly affected it's a plain as seeing a cast and knowing he has a broken arm..

I have experience. A couple of the kids I used to represent had autism, and yeah, you know pretty much right away which kid is really autistic and which one isn't.

Which is why I'm not going to condemn the guy, even though he's clearly trying to be outrageous (or perhaps, I'm refusing to specifically because he's trying to be Mr. Shock Jock here), because I think I get his basic point, which is to slam shitty parents who label their annoying little brat children "autistic" in order to excuse their shitty behavior (which is probably due to shitty parenting). That's probably a small percentage of parents, though.

[moegolden]

... to slam shitty parents who label their annoying little brat children "autistic" in order to excuse their shitty behavior (which is probably due to shitty parenting). That's probably a small percentage of parents, though.

I just don't know how common that can really be, at least people trying to do it with a legal recognition. i think doctors have enough integrity to know the difference between autism and ADHD. it's possible Savage meant ADHD, which appears to be overdiagnosed, but he should know the difference.

[Jolie]

This guy's a douche and if Imus can get jacked because Rev. Al has a platform I'd love it if the same legal courtesy could be applied to the parents of kids with a true medical disorder.

So basically, you want to apply the same flawed system to Savage that was used to get Imus fired and has caused O&A nothing but trouble based solely on the "but if they got rid of Imus they should get rid of him too" logic, rather than just accept that, while stupid and offensive, Savage has a right to say what he wants?

It really doesn't matter if anyone here has experience with Autism and therefore is *more* offended by what he said. I don't see anyone questioning that the guy is a douche and said something stupid. Thats not actually the point. The point is, he should have a right to say it, even if it is offensive and stupid.

[kidconnor]

This guy's a douche and if Imus can get jacked because Rev. Al has a platform I'd love it if the same legal courtesy could be applied to the parents of kids with a true medical disorder.

You might get your wish. Some of the parents are calling for his firing. And its not freedom of speech if its HATEFUL SPEECH....

Parents of Autistic Kids Protest Radio Show Host


NEW YORK (AP) -- Radio talk show host Michael Savage, who described 99 percent of children with autism as brats, said Monday he was trying to ``boldly awaken'' parents to his view that many people are being wrongly diagnosed.


Kathleen Maloney Reports

Some parents of autistic children have called for Savage's firing after he described autism as a racket last week. ``In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out,'' Savage said on his radio program last Wednesday.

Savage offered no apology in a message posted Monday on his Web site. He said greedy doctors and drug companies were creating a ``national panic'' by overdiagnosing autism, a mental disorder that inhibits a person's ability to communicate.

On his radio show last week, he said: ``What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, `Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, you idiot.'''

The government estimates about 1 in 150 children have some form of autism. But many experts believe these unsociable behaviors were just about as common 30 or 40 years ago and that the increase is mostly caused by a surge in special education services and a corresponding shift in diagnoses.

Wendy Fournier of the National Autism Association, a parents' advocacy group, said she was invited to speak Monday on Savage's three-hour program by Savage's boss, Mark Masters of Talk Radio Network, which syndicates the show across the country. A spokeswoman from Talk Radio Network did not immediately return a call for comment.

Fournier called Savage's comments ``way, way, way over the line and cruel.''

``I'm hoping to make him see the reality of what these kids are facing,'' she said. ``You can't fix it by telling a kid to shut up. It's like telling a kid with cancer to stop being sick.''

Evelyn Ain, whose 8-year-old son has been diagnosed with autism, said she had never heard of Savage and couldn't believe what she had heard when she first listened to the remarks. She organized a demonstration Monday outside New York's WOR-AM, which broadcasts Savage.

``That isn't just freedom of speech, it is hateful speech when you say 99 percent of children with autism are brats,'' she said. ``I'll tell you, I wish I had a brat.''

Savage, with more than 8 million listeners a week, is talk radio's third most popular personality behind Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, according to Talkers magazine. He's made a living off bold, outrageous statements: His brief MSNBC show was canceled after he told a caller he should ``get AIDS and die, you pig.''

Peter Bell, executive vice president of national advocacy group Autism Speaks, said he isn't aware of any big controversy about overdiagnosis of autism. He said Savage's remarks, effectively blaming parents, reflect an outdated point of view.

``He's an entertainer, he does these things for attention,'' Bell said. ``I think we should, to the best we can, ignore it.''

[Plunkies]

Peter Bell, executive vice president of national advocacy group Autism Speaks, said he isn't aware of any big controversy about overdiagnosis of autism. He said Savage's remarks, effectively blaming parents, reflect an outdated point of view.

``He's an entertainer, he does these things for attention,'' Bell said. ``I think we should, to the best we can, ignore it.''

Exactly. He's a shock jock. Stop whining.

[moegolden]

Thats not actually the point. The point is, he should have a right to say it, even if it is offensive and stupid.

he does have a right to say that, but he has a lot of narrow-minded right-wing followers who believe everything he said. so one could make the argument that spreading this kind of misinformation to the masses *about science* is a danger to the public. it goes way beyond hurting people's feelings. this kind of swaying of opinion could affect the progress in funding and research for autism.

remember freedom of speech doesn't give us the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater.

again, if he was referring to ADHD cases, I might have a different take here.

p.s. Savage was still a gay pedophile who swam naked with ginsberg.
http://www.christianparty.net/michaelsavage.htm

[Vyce]

I just don't know how common that can really be, at least people trying to do it with a legal recognition. i think doctors have enough integrity to know the difference between autism and ADHD. it's possible Savage meant ADHD, which appears to be overdiagnosed, but he should know the difference.

You actually have a very good point, in that he could have been referring to ADHD, or meaning to and just being too stupid to understand the difference.

ADHD is INCREDIBLY misdiagnosed in this country, and that's another one of those disorders where if you've had any experience with ADHD kids, you really can tell the difference between who's got the disorder, and who's just a bratty kid without any sort of manners.

[Sidekick Dave]

I'm sure this will be a HIGHLY unpopular opinion but...

He's an offensive moron. But hes an offensive moron who basically should be able to say whatever he wants, if we want O&A to be able to say whatever they want. We don't have to like it, he can be idiotic and reprehensible and the great thing is, we don't have to listen to it either.
Hate to say it, but as the board's resident Aspie (And damn proud of it), he said something totally ignorant. So, I just blow it off. I don't listen to him, and nor does anyone else. With all the shit that Aspies and Autistics go through, I think that IMO Michael Werner is the least of MY worries.

[Larz]

This guy's a douche and if Imus can get jacked because Rev. Al has a platform I'd love it if the same legal courtesy could be applied to the parents of kids with a true medical disorder.


this statement is so confused I don't even know where to start.

You're implying that Savage did something illegal? Or that Imus was fired over a 'legal issue' rather than his employers just caving in to negative publicity?

Autism has become such a blanket diagnosis that it now covers just about everything relating to child behavioural/learning problems. Meanwhile there isn't even a medical consensus on whether its a genetic disorder or stems from environmental contaminents.

Its become yet another aspect of the PC gravy train. We have reached a point in society where there are no stupid children anymore. A child of below average intelligence is now autistic, and this qualifies the parents to recieve a government check.

[Plunkies]

he does have a right to say that, but he has a lot of narrow-minded right-wing followers who believe everything he said. so one could make the argument that spreading this kind of misinformation to the masses *about science* is a danger to the public. it goes way beyond hurting people's feelings. this kind of swaying of opinion could affect the progress in funding and research for autism.

remember freedom of speech doesn't give us the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater.


You're being silly.

[MrBogey]

Eh...ADHD is 90% fraud. Autism is like... 5% fraud. A lot of parents label their kids ADHD to explain shitty parenting...a few do it for autism. But what he said was just dumb.

Oh...and most ADHD just means stop giving your kids shitty food and letting them run wild. Autism....not cured so easily.

[Snapman]

If Savage was really discussing misdiagnoses of autism (which is what he said to Glenn Beck just now and what I'm thinking he meant), then that's fine. Of course, it's not like he said it in a sensitive way (ewww, I want him to be sensitive).

On the other hand, if he really meant ADHD and kept going on about autism instead, he is an idiot.

[Glenn Dandy]

this statement is so confused I don't even know where to start.

You're implying that Savage did something illegal? Or that Imus was fired over a 'legal issue' rather than his employers just caving in to negative publicity?

Autism has become such a blanket diagnosis that it now covers just about everything relating to child behavioural/learning problems. Meanwhile there isn't even a medical consensus on whether its a genetic disorder or stems from environmental contaminents.

Its become yet another aspect of the PC gravy train. We have reached a point in society where there are no stupid children anymore. A child of below average intelligence is now autistic, and this qualifies the parents to recieve a government check.

Americans are such uninformed idiots.


I have read this whole thread and it makes what this obviously dumb fuck DJ said looks like the rule not the exception.

I'm looking for a free SSI check huh?

my son has cost me around 200,000 in gypsy cures,, doctors,,1000's of sleepless nights,, my son has broken my nose three times. If you yell at him for kicking you in the face he punches himself in his.... he will knock his teeth out purposly on a brick wall... hasn't spoke since he was 3 years old ... a mute for ten years. His nose is as flat as a 20 year veteran boxer...,,,,,
his body is covered from head to toe with bruises like he was in a car accident.24 hours a day 7 days a week for ten years from him beating on himself to stop the pain of Autism.


Nappy headed hoes....Who gets hurt really?

Sex in a church? who gets hurt really?

Autism is bullshit? Who gets hurt? Me, my cause, and millions of kids that need assistance from an ill informed public that thinks Al Sharpton is more important.

you that don't understand that not only is Autism... not, bullshit... I would go as far as to say... It is the single most horrible , debilitating thing on the earth.

So... Mayby theres a difference when it comes to things that are harmless free speech....

and things that may cause great harm to an already struggling group of parents no one cares about.:icon_neut

it's really kind of sad people have bigger mouths than brains ,,is a shame the way this country has turned. I blame MTV.

I would like the guy who said this to TRY and live one day in my shoes...He & his big mouth couldn't handle it.

[moegolden]

You're being silly.

not at all.

if you like O and A's show, you should understand the power of mass media and what happens when you tell people a lie enough times. that's a consistent theme of their show's breaks.

http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/mar2007/nazi_poster2.jpg

Nazi propaganda for their compulsory "euthanasia" program:

"This person suffering from hereditary defects costs the community 60,000 Reichsmark during his lifetime. Fellow Germans, that is your money, too."

http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/mar2007/eugenics.html

[Glenn Dandy]

O&A would never say something so stupid....

Jimmy had a post once about how theres a line... whats funny and whats to far guy... It was genius...

who can find that here? I feel it pertains to all media talk as well.....


Parents get pissed over this cause ... we already are a small voice against a huge elephant calling it our fault not theirs.

Wich is hard enough to battle without this fool talking his retarded half brained shit.

We are in a situation where the people responsible are spending millions to cover this up....theres alot of paid people already in high media situations hurting the cause... this guy,,, I hope is getting paid at least to say such drivel.

[Kris_LTRMa]

people actually pay attention to what Michael Savage has to say? That's amazing

[Plunkies]

Nappy headed hoes....Who gets hurt really?

Black feelings.

Sex in a church? who gets hurt really?Christian feelings.

Autism is bullshit? Who gets hurt? Your feelings.

Ohhhhhh okay, now I see the difference.

not at all.

if you like O and A's show, you should understand the power of mass media and what happens when you tell people a lie enough times. that's a consistent theme of their show's breaks.

Bullshit. It was not a news program. It's a right wing nut who is known for saying radical things, saying radical things. It's a goofy guy paid for giving his opinion, and he did. The world is not going to end and Autism is not going to lose all funding. Stop being faggots. It's not even close to yelling fire in a theater anymore than Imus was inciting a race war. It's exaggeration and overreaction. Stop with the phony hyperbole and stop pretending like the brilliant minds of wackbag are the only people who can recognize that this guy is full of shit. If you can't be bothered to check your own hypocrisy then don't feel like you have the right to point out everyone else's...There's no need to freak the fuck out as soon as something hits too close to home.

[Xyn]

Lol autism. Aspergers sounds like ass burgers.

[BIV]

Bullshit. It was not a news program. It's a right wing nut who is known for saying radical things, saying radical things. It's a goofy guy paid for giving his opinion, and he did. The world is not going to end and Autism is not going to lose all funding. Stop being faggots. It's not even close to yelling fire in a theater anymore than Imus was inciting a race war. It's exaggeration and overreaction. Stop with the phony hyperbole and stop pretending like the brilliant minds of wackbag are the only people who can recognize that this guy is full of shit. If you can't be bothered to check your own hypocrisy then don't feel like you have the right to point out everyone else's...There's no need to freak the fuck out as soon as something hits too close to home.
This^

People need to chill the fuck out.
First off, just because you have a child who is effected by Autism doesn't make his point any less valid. There ARE many children who are misdiagnosed with Autism. I met the parents of a 12-year-old kid who allegedly has autism, goes to regular school classes with "normal" children and is getting straight A's. And by the way, they get government money. Do you not see the problem here?

Secondly, if you actually think the crap Savage says on the air is anything other than a work you are a rube and should get laughed at. Calm down, he is a shock jock and is getting exactly the response from you he wanted.

[Jolie]

he does have a right to say that, but he has a lot of narrow-minded right-wing followers who believe everything he said. so one could make the argument that spreading this kind of misinformation to the masses *about science* is a danger to the public. it goes way beyond hurting people's feelings. this kind of swaying of opinion could affect the progress in funding and research for autism.

remember freedom of speech doesn't give us the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater.

again, if he was referring to ADHD cases, I might have a different take here.

p.s. Savage was still a gay pedophile who swam naked with ginsberg.
http://www.christianparty.net/michaelsavage.htm

One could also make the argument that O&A, and Imus, have enough people who will blindly follow whatever they say, that calling women "holes" or the Rutgers team "nappy headed hoes" will sway their opinion and set back womens rights and minority rights as well.

[Jolie]

Americans are such uninformed idiots.


I have read this whole thread and it makes what this obviously dumb fuck DJ said looks like the rule not the exception.

I'm looking for a free SSI check huh?

my son has cost me around 200,000 in gypsy cures,, doctors,,1000's of sleepless nights,, my son has broken my nose three times. If you yell at him for kicking you in the face he punches himself in his.... he will knock his teeth out purposly on a brick wall... hasn't spoke since he was 3 years old ... a mute for ten years. His nose is as flat as a 20 year veteran boxer...,,,,,
his body is covered from head to toe with bruises like he was in a car accident.24 hours a day 7 days a week for ten years from him beating on himself to stop the pain of Autism.


Nappy headed hoes....Who gets hurt really?

Sex in a church? who gets hurt really?

Autism is bullshit? Who gets hurt? Me, my cause, and millions of kids that need assistance from an ill informed public that thinks Al Sharpton is more important.

you that don't understand that not only is Autism... not, bullshit... I would go as far as to say... It is the single most horrible , debilitating thing on the earth.

So... Mayby theres a difference when it comes to things that are harmless free speech....

and things that may cause great harm to an already struggling group of parents no one cares about.:icon_neut

it's really kind of sad people have bigger mouths than brains ,,is a shame the way this country has turned. I blame MTV.

I would like the guy who said this to TRY and live one day in my shoes...He & his big mouth couldn't handle it.

Glenn, I know its a sensitive issue for you, but whether you like it or not, it has become the cause celebre lately - and it IS the new Diagnosis of the Decade. If Jenny McCarthys kid can be "cured" of autism by diet and exercise, then he was never autistic to begin with.

YOU have a child with a legitimate problem. A child who, from what you say (and none of us know him so you are the expert on this), went from being a normal, regularly developing child, that you saw regress in front of your eyes and who will likely NEVER be able to lead a "normal" life. And that REALLY sucks.

But far too often nowadays, it seems children who stop talking at the age of 15 months, or 18 months, or whatever, ARE diagnosed as "autistic" or "on the spectrum" - and some of these kids DO start talking again, and lead normal lives - because its all too easy for a doctor to say "yep. Autism" and send a kid for early intervention. Were these kids EVER autistic? Probably not. They probably had a temporary speech regression, but thats not the only cornerstone of autism.

And yeah, these types of comments obviously hurt you and your cause. But being a white male, I don't think you are the right one to decide whether "nappy headed hoes" hurts a black female and her cause. If we are supposed to be careful what we say about autism so we don't accidentally upset someone and their cause, then we need to be just as careful with everything else that is sensitive and possibly hurtful.

Or, we can be jackasses about all of it, man up a little, and not get our feelings hurt by things people say. ;-)

[Glenn Dandy]

I will leave it up to the individual if they choose to attack this jackhole and his sponsors.. but, just the same here is all pertinant information.:action-sm


Radio's Michael Savage Calls Children With Autism "Brats" and Autism a "Scam"

From an Autism Action Network announcement.

Use the Autism Action Network to Tell Savage's Broadcasters and Sponsors What You Think of Savage and His Offensive Remarks

"OFFENSIVE!"
That's What We Call The Words of Trash Radio Host Michael Savage
Take Action Against Michael Savage's Remarks!
"Idiot" "brat" "moron"

These are just a few terms Savage used to describe children with Autism on his radio program. He went on to say autism, a lifelong debilitating disorder that leaves many children without the ability to speak and in constant pain, was a "fraud" and a "racket" perpetrated by inept parents.
Do not permit Savage's offensive statements to go unchallenged. Savage and his broadcasting syndicators must be held accountable for his hateful and ignorant tirade. Contact his sponsors and demand that they withdraw their support. Most reasonable people, and most for-profit corporations, do not want to be identified as oppressors of the disabled. Your words will have great impact and will make the choice clear for them.
To Hear Savage's offensive comments for yourself with some helpful commentary that puts him in his place, click on these links: tinyurl.com/6cxu4m and tinyurl.com/62atbo

Send a message to Savage's broadcasters, syndicators and commercial sponsors:
(Use our messaging system to contact them but also fax and call them directly – where a web address email is indicated go to their web site):
Buckley Broadcasting/WOR Radio General Phone Number: 212 642 4500 111 Broadway 3rd Floor, New York, NY 10006
Home Depot public_relations@homedepot.com (770) 384-4646
Sears Sears Public Relations And Communications (847) 286-8371 contact through their website: www.searsmedia.com/tools/inquires/feedback.htm
Radioshack Media Relations_ Riverfront Campus _Mail Stop #CF7-130_300 RadioShack Circle _Fort Worth, TX 76102-1964_ Phone: (817) 415-3300_ Fax: (817) 415-2585_ E-mail: media.relations@RadioShack.com
AFLAC 1-800-99-AFLAC (1-800-992-3522) Laura Kane, 2nd Vice President External Relations Aflac Incorporated_1-706-596-3493 Mechell Clark_ Media Relations Manager_ 1-706-243-8004 news@aflac.com
Budweiser Anheuser-Busch, Inc.
One Busch Place St. Louis, MO 63118 Email through their site: contactus.anheuser-busch.com/contactus/email.asp 1 800 DIAL BUD (1 800 342 5283)
Michael Savage michaelsavage@paulreveresociety.com
Talk Radio Network Talk Radio Network Talk Radio Network P.O. Box 3755 Central Point, Oregon 97502 Phone: 541-664-8827 Fax: 541-664-6250
The Savage Nation The Savage Nation The Paul Revere Society 150 Shoreline Hwy, Bldg E Mill Valley, CA 94941 Fax: 415-339-9383


Here is a sample message you can use:

Dear Michael Savage Sponsor or Supporter: We have learned that your company sponsors or supports Michael Savage's radio program.
On a recent program, he attacked children with autism, claiming that autism was a fraud and a scam. He went on to say: "I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is."
Savage also used offensive terms to describe autistic children, such as "idiots", "morons" and more.
We parents and family members of an individual with autism will not tolerate Savage's offensive and unacceptable conduct. We respectfully request that your company withdraws their advertising dollars from his programs and, if you broadcast or syndicate his radio show, that you dismiss him immediately.
Autism affects 1 in 150 children in the USA. Each of those children has a circle of family, friends and supporters who share the concerns of the child. We would say that there are likely 10 people for every child with autism who shares that child's concerns.
When you consider this request, please consider that as many as 1 in 15 Americans will be watching your decision and how you react will have a powerful impact on their opinion of your company.
We hope and trust that you will do the right thing.
Respectfully,

---

[Three Hole Puncher]

Yes! We must attack! We must rain down hellfire upon hizzzzZZZZzzzzzZZZZzzzzzzz ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZzzzz...

[Glenn Dandy]

If ya want;)


I would love to bring my son to his show.... hopefully while hes interviewing us my son will come at him with a Sugar Ray Lenoard combo.


I would love to put him in a 5X5 room for one hour with a real Autistic kid... He would be the most apologetic fool on earth.

Dumb Motherfucker.

[weakside]

If this guy really said that he is an idiot and a piece of crap.

[RMM46]

With all due respect (and I do respect everything you have done for your son), but isn't this the same kind of douchey thing that we get all pissed off at when it happens to O&A?

Does this mean PAC will have to go on CNN and defend.....eh, nevermind.

[CougarHunter]

He's right and it is.

[weakside]

RMM46, I see what you are saying but there is a big difference in that Glenn isn’t sending off an email or going on TV and say that he represents all of us and that Wackbag will boycott his sponsors. All he is saying is if you as an individual find those comments offensive or incorrect that there is a way to say so.

There is nothing wrong with an individual complaining. We all have our own personal issues that affect us more than it would others and I have no problem with that. It’s when some ass that is the head of a group with fake membership numbers uses that “power” to threaten sponsors that is disgusting.

[RMM46]

Use the Autism Action Network to Tell Savage's Broadcasters and Sponsors What You Think of Savage and His Offensive Remarks

RMM46, I see what you are saying but there is a big difference in that Glenn isn’t sending off an email or going on TV and say that he represents all of us and that Wackbag will boycott his sponsors. All he is saying is if you as an individual find those comments offensive or incorrect that there is a way to say so.

There is nothing wrong with an individual complaining. We all have our own personal issues that affect us more than it would others and I have no problem with that. It’s when some ass that is the head of a group with fake membership numbers uses that “power” to threaten sponsors that is disgusting.

Replace Autism Action Network with National Action Network, and how is it different???

[thetick130]

Replace Autism Action Network with National Action Network, and how is it different???


Ding Ding Ding. This seems to be working against our cause of freedom of speech on radio.

[WhiteHonkyDevil]

Ding Ding Ding. This seems to be working against our cause of freedom of speech on radio.

Just a little bit. The term "action network" should've been the tipoff.

[weakside]

As many have already written as long as his statements aren’t slanderous no one is saying he should be fired. But as an individual if you personally find this offensive then I don’t see any problem in complaining. We each have our different lines that we don’t want to be crossed and no one can tell you how you personally should feel about any particular issue. If enough *individuals feel the same then he looses sponsors and goes away.


*The key here is that it is an individual decision and not some group with made-up memberships threatening sponsors. That is the difference between what happened with Imus and an individual complaining about Savage.

[weakside]

Replace Autism Action Network with National Action Network, and how is it different???

Because I wouldn’t go through any organization to register my complaint. I don’t know exactly what that organization stands for and even if I did I might not completely agree with everything they do or are working for.

Instead I would personally send an email to complain as an individual, not as part of some group.

[DocSavage]

If ya want;)


I would love to bring my son to his show.... hopefully while hes interviewing us my son will come at him with a Sugar Ray Lenoard combo.


I would love to put him in a 5X5 room for one hour with a real Autistic kid... He would be the most apologetic fool on earth.

Dumb Motherfucker.




"...A little too close to home?" as Opie would say. :mad4:

[Arch Stanton]

Ok, from what I have seen on this Autism disease is this. There are many highly functional Autistic kids, or kids that are being labled as Autistic. There are different drugs to control violent behavior. Some work for a while, some make the kids behavior problems, but the violence stops. We have a friend whose kid is so bad that the School he goes to that specializes in this, with 4 adults on him at all times will not let him back unless a parent is with him. Very hard to witness the heartache they are going through. Days away from institutionalizing him, they tried a new drug. Worked for a couple of weeks.
Then there is the kid in my Boys choir. Highly functional, only thing he seems to really love is singing in the boys choir. He had to switch drugs because he was just sitting in his room almost in a depressed state. New drug, new kid, but a harder challenge for me. I only see him an hour or two a week. There are others also. Add, etc...
Seems there are so many that have some issue and are on something.

My point is that I see this Autistic Diagnosis seems to have many extremes.

edit***Ron talking about this now on Ron and Fez

[weakside]

It all comes down to this, Glen and anybody else that was offended by this has a right to complain and everyone who was not offended or doesn’t care has that right as well.

But to say how Glen (or anyone else) should personally feel about it is crazy.

[peas hode]

"...A little too close to home?" as Opie would say. :mad4:

Gotta agree, if the dude was under fire for calling black people stupid GD would call this censorship

[WoodenPlank]

Ding Ding Ding. This seems to be working against our cause of freedom of speech on radio.

It depends on context. What Savage said wasnt under a context of humor, it was a context of mis-informed bull he was spouting off.
Imus and O&A are to provide entertainment through humor.

Different circumstances.

[Three Hole Puncher]

I will leave it up to the individual if they choose to attack this jackhole and his sponsors.. but, just the same here is all pertinant information.:action-sm


Radio's Michael Savage Calls Children With Autism "Brats" and Autism a "Scam"

From an Autism Action Network announcement.

Use the Autism Action Network to Tell Savage's Broadcasters and Sponsors What You Think of Savage and His Offensive Remarks

"OFFENSIVE!"
That's What We Call The Words of Trash Radio Host Michael Savage
Take Action Against Michael Savage's Remarks!
"Idiot" "brat" "moron"

These are just a few terms Savage used to describe children with Autism on his radio program. He went on to say autism, a lifelong debilitating disorder that leaves many children without the ability to speak and in constant pain, was a "fraud" and a "racket" perpetrated by inept parents.
Do not permit Savage's offensive statements to go unchallenged. Savage and his broadcasting syndicators must be held accountable for his hateful and ignorant tirade. Contact his sponsors and demand that they withdraw their support. Most reasonable people, and most for-profit corporations, do not want to be identified as oppressors of the disabled. Your words will have great impact and will make the choice clear for them.
To Hear Savage's offensive comments for yourself with some helpful commentary that puts him in his place, click on these links: tinyurl.com/6cxu4m and tinyurl.com/62atbo

Send a message to Savage's broadcasters, syndicators and commercial sponsors:
(Use our messaging system to contact them but also fax and call them directly – where a web address email is indicated go to their web site):
Buckley Broadcasting/WOR Radio General Phone Number: 212 642 4500 111 Broadway 3rd Floor, New York, NY 10006
Home Depot public_relations@homedepot.com (770) 384-4646
Sears Sears Public Relations And Communications (847) 286-8371 contact through their website: www.searsmedia.com/tools/inquires/feedback.htm
Radioshack Media Relations_ Riverfront Campus _Mail Stop #CF7-130_300 RadioShack Circle _Fort Worth, TX 76102-1964_ Phone: (817) 415-3300_ Fax: (817) 415-2585_ E-mail: media.relations@RadioShack.com
AFLAC 1-800-99-AFLAC (1-800-992-3522) Laura Kane, 2nd Vice President External Relations Aflac Incorporated_1-706-596-3493 Mechell Clark_ Media Relations Manager_ 1-706-243-8004 news@aflac.com
Budweiser Anheuser-Busch, Inc.
One Busch Place St. Louis, MO 63118 Email through their site: contactus.anheuser-busch.com/contactus/email.asp 1 800 DIAL BUD (1 800 342 5283)
Michael Savage michaelsavage@paulreveresociety.com
Talk Radio Network Talk Radio Network Talk Radio Network P.O. Box 3755 Central Point, Oregon 97502 Phone: 541-664-8827 Fax: 541-664-6250
The Savage Nation The Savage Nation The Paul Revere Society 150 Shoreline Hwy, Bldg E Mill Valley, CA 94941 Fax: 415-339-9383


Here is a sample message you can use:

Dear Michael Savage Sponsor or Supporter: We have learned that your company sponsors or supports Michael Savage's radio program.
On a recent program, he attacked children with autism, claiming that autism was a fraud and a scam. He went on to say: "I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is."
Savage also used offensive terms to describe autistic children, such as "idiots", "morons" and more.
We parents and family members of an individual with autism will not tolerate Savage's offensive and unacceptable conduct. We respectfully request that your company withdraws their advertising dollars from his programs and, if you broadcast or syndicate his radio show, that you dismiss him immediately.
Autism affects 1 in 150 children in the USA. Each of those children has a circle of family, friends and supporters who share the concerns of the child. We would say that there are likely 10 people for every child with autism who shares that child's concerns.
When you consider this request, please consider that as many as 1 in 15 Americans will be watching your decision and how you react will have a powerful impact on their opinion of your company.
We hope and trust that you will do the right thing.
Respectfully,

---

Glenn Dandy... the Bill Donohue of autism.

[fandango86]

"These are words! If you don't like them, turn the dial!"

If Sean Hannity's advice isn't good enough, how about this guy's?

Peter Bell, executive vice president of national advocacy group Autism Speaks, said he isn't aware of any big controversy about overdiagnosis of autism. He said Savage's remarks, effectively blaming parents, reflect an outdated point of view.

"He's an entertainer, he does these things for attention," Bell said. "I think we should, to the best we can, ignore it."


Lock it up

[fandango86]

It depends on context. What Savage said wasnt under a context of humor, it was a context of mis-informed bull he was spouting off.
Imus and O&A are to provide entertainment through humor.

Different circumstances.

Wrongo. Michael Savage spouts off to provide entertainment through sometimes outlandish opinions. Same as Imus and O&A.

[BaLZaC~308]

With all due respect (and I do respect everything you have done for your son), but isn't this the same kind of douchey thing that we get all pissed off at when it happens to O&A?

Wrongo. Michael Savage spouts off to provide entertainment through sometimes outlandish opinions. Same as Imus and O&A.

I have to agree.... for any OnA fan to do this reeks of double standards

It all comes down to this, Glen and anybody else that was offended by this has a right to complain and everyone who was not offended or doesn’t care has that right as well.

But to say how Glen (or anyone else) should personally feel about it is crazy.

I agree with glenn that this guy is a fuckng misinformed asshole and glenn as a parent of an autisic child has every right to be angered and do what he feels is right... I just think that if OnA said what savage said, and they have said worse not one of us on here would say shit... and thats my problem wth this whole thing

[DocSavage]

Wrongo. Michael Savage spouts off to provide entertainment through sometimes outlandish opinions. Same as Imus and O&A.


QFT
:clap:

[WOWmagnet]

wrongo. Michael savage spouts off to provide entertainment through sometimes outlandish opinions. Same as imus and o&a.

yep!

[Myhairygrundle]

Yea, it was really stupid to say. But instead of trying to get him fired by going after his sponsors.....

I would suggest to his producers that he interview a real autism expert, Doctor, etc and have an open discussion.


Or, it's his radio show and he can say whatever he wants. Non-listeners going after sponsors is really kind of silly.

Now....if I listen to Savage on a regular basis and he says something stupid or offensive to me, I have more standing to go after him than someone who has never heard the show.

Just like all those nig-nogs who got "outraged" at Imus and his sponsors. They don't listen to his show and really don't give a fuck about it.

So will I be as mad as GD because Savage said something stupid? No, but will offer thoughts, prayers, and respect to GD and any parent who has to deal with an autistic child.

[WOWmagnet]

ATTACK = YES!

Get Fired = nooooooooooo!

[Larz]

I'm looking for a free SSI check huh?



Not at all. However, the cause of autism has become perverted into a racket for bilking ssi/disability. doctors diagnose it as if they were giving away halloween candy and there are plenty of parents of otherwise 'normal' kids who keep their mouths shut and take the free money.

Savage's point is that young people entering the workforce are being robbed blind by an entitlement system that they have to pay into but will never see a penny from.

I'm sorry that there are children out there with serious issues. But in the end Savage is right, its not my problem and I shouldn't be forced to pay for it. SSI/Entitlements/Welfare need to be burned to the ground.

[sniper]

While I feel for you GD, It'd be silly not to call out the hypocrisy here.

Were you listening when he said it? If not, then you're just the same as all the people that came out of the woodwork to get Imus fired. Here, we knew it was a throw away, garbage line, on a comedy show. I used to listen to Savage before O&A and he comes from what I would describe as an extreme Louis Black form of comedy where he would go on these hate filled babbling rants that would be so exaggerated it was funny, that is, HIS form of opinionated entertainment. It's all the same shit, nobody has taken Savage seriously in years.
Of course, this one hit too close to home for you, but if you're content on attacking Savage for what he said, then why are you not attacking O&A for their Retard Restaurant bit they did on Friday? To me it's the same thing.

From the "Why Opie and Anthony?" thread:
Because they dont have a politicly correct hand shoved up their asses.

[Larz]

Water-headed hoes? no?


http://thenewts.net/media/albums/images/website/normal_racing_car_crash.jpg

[Three Hole Puncher]

Americans are such uninformed idiots.


I have read this whole thread and it makes what this obviously dumb fuck DJ said looks like the rule not the exception.

I'm looking for a free SSI check huh?

my son has cost me around 200,000 in gypsy cures,, doctors,,1000's of sleepless nights,, my son has broken my nose three times. If you yell at him for kicking you in the face he punches himself in his.... he will knock his teeth out purposly on a brick wall... hasn't spoke since he was 3 years old ... a mute for ten years. His nose is as flat as a 20 year veteran boxer...,,,,,
his body is covered from head to toe with bruises like he was in a car accident.24 hours a day 7 days a week for ten years from him beating on himself to stop the pain of Autism.


Nappy headed hoes....Who gets hurt really?

Sex in a church? who gets hurt really?

Autism is bullshit? Who gets hurt? Me, my cause, and millions of kids that need assistance from an ill informed public that thinks Al Sharpton is more important.

you that don't understand that not only is Autism... not, bullshit... I would go as far as to say... It is the single most horrible , debilitating thing on the earth.

So... Mayby theres a difference when it comes to things that are harmless free speech....

and things that may cause great harm to an already struggling group of parents no one cares about.:icon_neut

it's really kind of sad people have bigger mouths than brains ,,is a shame the way this country has turned. I blame MTV.

I would like the guy who said this to TRY and live one day in my shoes...He & his big mouth couldn't handle it. You pissed away 200 grand on gypsy cures, yet you reserve your most venomous anger for some attention-whoring dumbass radio hack who never took a nickel from your pocket?

Where the hell is anger for the scammers who sold you the eye of newt for 200 large? Why are you wasting your time and effort railing against some nitwit on the radio when there are quacks out there taking advantage of autism in order to bilk people out of their life savings?

You spent two hundred thousand dollars on a bag of magical autism-curing beans and we're the uninformed idiots?

[DanaReevesLungs]

You pissed away 200 grand on gypsy cures, yet you reserve your most venomous anger for some attention-whoring dumbass radio hack who never took a nickel from your pocket?

Where the hell is anger for the scammers who sold you the eye of newt for 200 large? Why are you wasting your time and effort railing against some nitwit on the radio when there are quacks out there taking advantage of autism in order to bilk people out of their life savings?

You spent two hundred thousand dollars on a bag of magical autism-curing beans and we're the uninformed idiots?

More common sense from THP.

It can't be said enough, GD, your hypocrisy reigns supreme on this thread. You wouldn't chastise O&A for anything they said because they bring you entertainment, but you vehemently protest this guy's words because the subject matter hit too close to home. And as sniper asked, did you even hear the show where these words were spoken? If not, you resemble Al Sharpton in the way he was against what Imus said.

Sorry we can't all be in your shoes, but even speech that offends us is still protected speech. If this guy gets fired for this, it's bullshit.

[DonTheTrucker]

I always knew Miss Elizabeth was the one keeping Savage from saying stupid shit like this.

[Voss's Tumor]

If Jenny McCarthys kid can be "cured" of autism by diet and exercise, then he was never autistic to begin with.

This is the problem.

No one has a fucking clue what Autism is or how Jenny McCarthy improved the symptoms of her son's Autism. She did not cure her son, she just says that so fuck stick morons like 90% of the uninformed douches in this thread can understand what the fuck she's saying. You can call her whatever you want, but having an autistic kid grew her the fuck up quick, she went from bimbo to pretty much medically trained on the subject when push came to shove.

The "diet and exercise" (my god that makes you sound so fucking stupid... Not bashing, just being honest) is actually a very real treatment that truly does MASSIVELY improve the symptoms of Autism if done enough (like 8-10 hours a day straight) and you NEVER waiver from it. Only those with the money can afford the 25-30$ an hour for this much treatment, though, and douche bags like this prevent the movement of parents from gaining any meaningful government assistance.

Just FYI, it's not exercise, it's intensive psychological treatment. I dated a girl for a year who was a behavioral modification therapist for Autistic kids and I watched it eat away at her own sanity to the point that she was basically having a nervous breakdown every day and couldn't function her self.

Autism is caused by a genetic predisposition mixed with heavy metal poisoning, so any chemical additive in foods makes them flip. So if you give them ONLY the purest, most basic foods over time it can alleviate the heavy metal contamination in their bodies which reduces the chemical imbalance, and the behavioral modification therapy can get through only as the diet and detoxification help that imbalance.

Statements like "diet and exercise" are as ignorant as saying "If you have cancer go stand in an atom bomb blast". I mean, they both include radiation, right?

The point is this is a fucking massive, serious problem and the morons (all of you) who don't understand why just need to fucking let those of us that do be the talking heads. If you know nothing and it doesn't affect you, stop standing in the way of people who do know and are trying to fix it. You're just as bad as the religious fucks who want to stop nuclear power because they think it's wrong to fuck with God's atoms.

[Voss's Tumor]

And I guess the big difference between this guy and the O&A/Imus argument is this:

If he'd called Autistic kids waterheads, if he'd said something meaning it to be funny, said their parents smoked too much crack and they came out that way, whatever. Freedom of speech.

To have PhD next to your name and make a statement that a real disease is a falsehood is libelous, and should be very open to civil action.

[Sidekick Dave]

Look, this Savage guy is doing an act. Though there are some people who really do think that way, I just ignore them. They're ignorant and I don't listen. I don't see what boycotting the show would do. Isn't this what we fight against? It was a hurtful comment and like I do with pure ignorant people, I ignore them. Plain and simple.

[Voss's Tumor]

And yeah, these types of comments obviously hurt you and your cause. But being a white male, I don't think you are the right one to decide whether "nappy headed hoes" hurts a black female and her cause. If we are supposed to be careful what we say about autism so we don't accidentally upset someone and their cause, then we need to be just as careful with everything else that is sensitive and possibly hurtful.

Or, we can be jackasses about all of it, man up a little, and not get our feelings hurt by things people say. ;-)

So having a black woman 4th in line to the Presidency and a black man as the DNC nominee don't prove the "black cause" is basically bullshit?

If this dude's really just a shock jock, if he's doing like a Stephen Colbert thing, then fine. I would expect this and I would think it was funny. I think he's an ill-informed idiot and should be able to be held accountable in Civil court.

[Vyce]

Autism is caused by a genetic predisposition mixed with heavy metal poisoning, so any chemical additive in foods makes them flip. So if you give them ONLY the purest, most basic foods over time it can alleviate the heavy metal contamination in their bodies which reduces the chemical imbalance, and the behavioral modification therapy can get through only as the diet and detoxification help that imbalance.

Now you've gone and convinced me that perhaps Sparta had the right idea after all.

[Glenn Dandy]

I cant help it if people are taking advantage of the system.....I dont even know how they can?
my son in the most extreme case gets 500.00 a month.... and he is in a 24 hour a day care facility...

So...????

How much is a kid who likes to sing getting?


Secondly.... I will try and teach you dipshits the differences between .. different types of statements.


Nappy headed hoes.

Derivative of their native slang.....just words that cant kill them.no physical damage.

sex in a church

Who is getting hurt? physically here?

Saying Autism isnt the most paramount fucking mess on the planet.

with 20 million kids lives destroyed... at a cost of billions of tax dollars to care for them the next 70 years. The idea that someone on this planet is still dumb enough to not know this makes the polio epidemic look like a cold....is a pathetic state of media.

but, to flat out just make completely incorrect non informed statements on national airwaves is just perpetuating this population to ignore this particular epidemic...Which is hurting more than feelings.... It is destroying thousands of young lives.

god gets upset... boo hoo

a basketball player gets her hair made fun of... boo hoo

a kid born today may or may not suffer in hell for the next 80 years of his life.

Do you understand the difference now of media responsibility?

EVERYONE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND...... THIS IS FUCKING BAD NEWS.

I'll waste no more time on the people not bright enough to see a difference. I hope they do not learn the hard way.

[ThatsNotFunny]

I dunno...I feel for ya, Glenn, but it seems that when you're giving Savage more power than he has. I listen to his show because he's a lunatic, but I do believe in us hanging on to our borders, language and culture. This guy gave his stupid opinion... 'nuff said.

[Voss's Tumor]

You pissed away 200 grand on gypsy cures, yet you reserve your most venomous anger for some attention-whoring dumbass radio hack who never took a nickel from your pocket?

Where the hell is anger for the scammers who sold you the eye of newt for 200 large? Why are you wasting your time and effort railing against some nitwit on the radio when there are quacks out there taking advantage of autism in order to bilk people out of their life savings?

You spent two hundred thousand dollars on a bag of magical autism-curing beans and we're the uninformed idiots?

There's only been meaningful treatment options for the last few years. For a LONG time the best anyone could do was just try as much as they could afford to try, and I think that's what he's referring to.

No herbal wheat grass shakes with asai berry infusion or any of that horse-shit, just shit that didn't work because no one knew better at the time.

[Voss's Tumor]

I dunno...I feel for ya, Glenn, but it seems that when you're giving Savage more power than he has. I listen to his show because he's a lunatic, but I do believe in us hanging on to our borders, language and culture. This guy gave his stupid opinion... 'nuff said.

Someone just answer me this:

Is he a Rush Limbaugh type or a Stephen Colbert type? ie, is he just a funny man playing a role or is he a super conservative with a talk show?

[Myhairygrundle]

And I guess the big difference between this guy and the O&A/Imus argument is this:



To have PhD next to your name and make a statement that a real disease is a falsehood is libelous, and should be very open to civil action.

Come on....

How about the Scientologists who don't believe in mental illness?

PhD's say stupid shit all the time. Cornell West ring a bell?

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn215/mikevytal/west.jpg


Or maybe Ward Churchill?

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f257/timabear/wardchurchill.jpg


PhD....Piled Higher and Deeper.

[Voss's Tumor]

Come on....

How about the Scientologists who don't believe in mental illness?

PhD's say stupid shit all the time. Cornell West ring a bell?

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn215/mikevytal/west.jpg


Or maybe Ward Churchill?

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f257/timabear/wardchurchill.jpg


PhD....Piled Higher and Deeper.

Scientologists are religious wackjobs, not doctors.

I don't know who the other two are, but did they have roles as informative media talk show hosts?

(I still don't know if this guy's a Colbert or Limbaugh, btw)

[Myhairygrundle]

Scientologists are religious wackjobs, not doctors.

I don't know who the other two are, but did they have roles as informative media talk show hosts?

(I still don't know if this guy's a Colbert or Limbaugh, btw)

They write books, give speeches, and are interviewed by the mainstream media.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornell_West#Views_on_race_in_America

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Churchill

I saw a Doctor on Oprah who told me to put carrot juice in my butthole.

Talk show hosts say stupid shit all day long.

[ThatsNotFunny]

Someone just answer me this:

Is he a Rush Limbaugh type or a Stephen Colbert type? ie, is he just a funny man playing a role or is he a super conservative with a talk show?

He's to the right of Rush in his beliefs. He had a talk show for a half-second until this happened:

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[Voss's Tumor]

He's to the right of Rush in his beliefs. He had a talk show for a half-second until this happened:

TpUxxls8iiE

So he offers his opinions in a fact based format?

Open to lawsuit, plain and simple.

[Glenn Dandy]

You pissed away 200 grand on gypsy cures, yet you reserve your most venomous anger for some attention-whoring dumbass radio hack who never took a nickel from your pocket?

Where the hell is anger for the scammers who sold you the eye of newt for 200 large? Why are you wasting your time and effort railing against some nitwit on the radio when there are quacks out there taking advantage of autism in order to bilk people out of their life savings?

You spent two hundred thousand dollars on a bag of magical autism-curing beans and we're the uninformed idiots?

The point your missing here is this. I spent my money because no one else would help my son... just blank stares from doctors. This was 1998....The reason I have to still spend MY money... is because instead of outrage... everyone has bought into the bullshit... that its genetic, It's my fault, etc..

the bullshit that protects the creeps that are guilty... Why do I get so mad at this guy? because my fight is to not only educate people against what the media is teaching them.... It really burns my ass when someone in the media makes it so painfully clear how ALL media is so clueless.

In other words... this guy is just every dumbass on this board that doesn't get it.... but!
He is a doctor... he is broadcasting stupidity,and possibly on board with the bullshit brigade... Wich hurts my cause. and is my sworn enemy.

I use my money sir... Because in America... the only treatments that matter are Dickpills & any other marketable treatment for rich people.

Why would the government want to waste time curing Autism when they would enevitably foot the bill.

Wich is the way it should be, because they allowed their buddies making vaccines to hurt these kids.

BUMPING MY POST THAT GOT LOST ON THE LAST PAGE.
I cant help it if people are taking advantage of the system.....I dont even know how they can?
my son in the most extreme case gets 500.00 a month.... and he is in a 24 hour a day care facility...

So...????

How much is a kid who likes to sing getting?


Secondly.... I will try and teach you dipshits the differences between .. different types of statements.


Nappy headed hoes.

Derivative of their native slang.....just words that cant kill them.no physical damage.

sex in a church

Who is getting hurt? physically here?

Saying Autism isnt the most paramount fucking mess on the planet.

with 20 million kids lives destroyed... at a cost of billions of tax dollars to care for them the next 70 years. The idea that someone on this planet is still dumb enough to not know this makes the polio epidemic look like a cold....is a pathetic state of media.

but, to flat out just make completely incorrect non informed statements on national airwaves is just perpetuating this population to ignore this particular epidemic...Which is hurting more than feelings.... It is destroying thousands of young lives.

god gets upset... boo hoo

a basketball player gets her hair made fun of... boo hoo

a kid born today may or may not suffer in hell for the next 80 years of his life.

Do you understand the difference now of media responsibility?

EVERYONE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND...... THIS IS FUCKING BAD NEWS.

I'll waste no more time on the people not bright enough to see a difference. I hope they do not learn the hard way.
__________________

[sniper]

"...you should only get AIDS and die, you pig"

Doesn't sound familiar at all... :rolleyes:

http://www.vts.intute.ac.uk/detective/image/case-closed-stamp.gif

[thetick130]

Him saying anything has no bearing on your child and what treatment he gets. His job isn't to inform about the dangers of autism, it's to entertain. He doesn't have this type of power to affect autism AT ALL. It might be offensive, but it should be allowed just the same as O&A's cancer or AIDS jokes should be. The dangers of autism are real, powerful, and life destroying. It deserves to get adressed more thoroughly by the Medical Community, But what this Douche says has no bearing on that now or ever. He's just an asshole with and audience and a mike.

[Voss's Tumor]

"...you should only get AIDS and die, you pig"

Doesn't sound familiar at all... :rolleyes:

http://www.vts.intute.ac.uk/detective/image/case-closed-stamp.gif

He's not a funny man, he's a political commentary guy. If he wants to guise himself as a comedian, I'm all for him saying whatever the fuck he wants. When he hangs his hat on his PhD and gives false medical advice through a fact based show, though, he opens himself to a lawsuit similar to the Ranchers v. Opera suit, but this one's valid.

[Glenn Dandy]

Him saying anything has no bearing on your child and what treatment he gets. His job isn't to inform about the dangers of autism, it's to entertain. He doesn't have this type of power to affect autism AT ALL. It might be offensive, but it should be allowed just the same as O&A's cancer or AIDS jokes should be. The dangers of autism are real, powerful, and life destroying. It deserves to get adressed more thoroughly by the Medical Community, But what this Douche says has no bearing on that now or ever. He's just an asshole with and audience and a mike.

perpetuating a lie has the power to affect Autism.

In a country where change can only take place if " THE PEOPLE " make it change... you tell me how important popular opinion is on any given subject...If people are constantly allowed to lie about facts in the media... Where are we as Americans getting our facts?

This country is total bullshit as far as media swaying how people think... the truth is a long lost word in todays media... The news is paid programming.

people are uninformed....

this board shows exactly the problem... these people honestly think they know what the fuck their talking about... because TV told them thats how it is....

thats how powerful the media is. and thats how it hurts my sons future.

As long as they can perpetuate this lie...... no progress will ever come to light... the cure is absolutely about the cause... and the cause is a secret.

[Plunkies]

Nappy headed hoes.

Spreads uninformed racism all over the nation and sets back civil rights 100 years.

sex in a churchUndermines the Catholic Church, spits in the face of god, and the disrespect of religion it sends will cause hundreds to go to hell for all eternity.


Saying Autism isnt the most paramount fucking mess on the planet.A retard gets his feelings hurt. And by retard I'm referring to you, not the autistics.


See, everyone can exaggerate and get indignant. Everyone's cause is the most important one on the planet. I'm pretty sure the blacks and fundies would scoff at autism when compared to slavery and eternal damnation. You're a fucking hypocrite. The worst kind because you can't even recognize your own hypocrisy when it's spelled out for you. This Savage guy has no fucking sway in the medical community.

And for Voss the phd argument is even stupider. What, after getting a phd you can't get a job as a shock jock? You now have too much respect to have free speech? He's not speaking as a doctor, he's speaking as the radical nut that he has always portrayed himself as. It doesn't even matter if it's a shtick or his genuine feelings. He's not saying "As a doctor autism is bullshit", and even if he did I STILL wouldn't give a shit as long as he wasn't practicing medicine. He has a right to spread his bullshit just as much as anyone else has a right to spread theirs.

[Myhairygrundle]

He's not a funny man, he's a political commentary guy. If he wants to guise himself as a comedian, I'm all for him saying whatever the fuck he wants. When he hangs his hat on his PhD and gives false medical advice through a fact based show, though, he opens himself to a lawsuit similar to the Ranchers v. Opera suit, but this one's valid.


No way. Al Gore is another example. Uses "facts" to promote is agenda. Most political talk shows do that.

Oprah caused ranchers to loose revenue. Savage saying something stupid is not even in the same ballpark.

And how do you prove it's false medical advice? Ever seen an infomercial with some MD promoting some stupid supplement? If 3 doctors have 3 different opinions on the cause of the flu, should 2 of them be sued?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9iyIGm9mOg

[Three Hole Puncher]

perpetuating a lie has the power to affect Autism.

In a country where change can only take place if " THE PEOPLE " make it change... you tell me how important popular opinion is on any given subject...If people are constantly allowed to lie about facts in the media... Where are we as Americans getting our facts?

This country is total bullshit as far as media swaying how people think... the truth is a long lost word in todays media... The news is paid programming.

people are uninformed....

this board shows exactly the problem... these people honestly think they know what the fuck their talking about... because TV told them thats how it is....

thats how powerful the media is. and thats how it hurts my sons future.

As long as they can perpetuate this lie...... no progress will ever come to light... the cure is absolutely about the cause... and the cause is a secret. Dude... the anti-guv'mint tinfoil hat nonsense people like you constantly spout sets progress on autism light years further back than any blithering one-liner idiocy uttered by Michael Savage.

[Glenn Dandy]

Spreads uninformed racism all over the nation and sets back civil rights 100 years.

Undermines the Catholic Church, spits in the face of god, and the disrespect of religion it sends will cause hundreds to go to hell for all eternity.

A retard gets his feelings hurt. And by retard I'm referring to you, not the autistics.


See, everyone can exaggerate and get indignant. Everyone's cause is the most important one on the planet. I'm pretty sure the blacks and fundies would scoff at autism when compared to slavery and eternal damnation. You're a fucking hypocrite. The worst kind because you can't even recognize your own hypocrisy when it's spelled out for you. This Savage guy has no fucking sway in the medical community.

And for Voss the phd argument is even stupider. What, after getting a phd you can't get a job as a shock jock? You now have too much respect to have free speech? He's not speaking as a doctor, he's speaking as the radical nut that he has always portrayed himself as. It doesn't even matter if it's a shtick or his genuine feelings. He's not saying "As a doctor autism is bullshit", and even if he did I STILL wouldn't give a shit as long as he wasn't practicing medicine. He has a right to spread his bullshit just as much as anyone else has a right to spread theirs.

Dude, Dude,Whatever man....you have a big mouth and no clue.

[Three Hole Puncher]

No way. Al Gore is another example. Uses "facts" to promote is agenda. Most political talk shows do that.

Oprah caused ranchers to loose revenue. Savage saying something stupid is not even in the same ballpark.

And how do you prove it's false medical advice? Ever seen an infomercial with some MD promoting some stupid supplement? If 3 doctors have 3 different opinions on the cause of the flu, should 2 of them be sued?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9iyIGm9mOg Three out of four dentists recommend Trident gum for their patients who chew gum...

and that fourth dentists will be hearing from my attorney!

:action-sm

[Voss's Tumor]

No way. Al Gore is another example. Uses "facts" to promote is agenda. Most political talk shows do that.

Oprah caused ranchers to loose revenue. Savage saying something stupid is not even in the same ballpark.

And how do you prove it's false medical advice? Ever seen an infomercial with some MD promoting some stupid supplement? If 3 doctors have 3 different opinions on the cause of the flu, should 2 of them be sued?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9iyIGm9mOg

This guy's statement causes Autistic research to lose awareness and revenue.

And a doctor on an infomercial just gets some dill hole to buy a stupid product. If the product harms the consumer, the company and said MD can be sued.

I'm not saying the FCC should step in, I'm saying Parents of Autistic kids and Autistic awareness groups should sue, and win, for libel.

[Larz]

douche bags like this prevent the movement of parents from gaining any meaningful government assistance.



It is the essence of gimme gimme liberalism/socialism in America. When someone brings a child into this world it is their responsibility to nuture and provide for it, not mine.

The issue here is really about welfare/entitlement programs and how spending has ballooned out of control. I guarantee that if SSI imploded tomorrow and there was no more $$ to be had, the diagnosis rate for autism, ADHD, and other quasi-mystical childhood afflictions would shrink by 90%.

[Voss's Tumor]

Dude, Dude,Whatever man....you have a big mouth and no clue.

X2

I normally really like Plunkies, he's just talking out his ass on this one.

[Myhairygrundle]

This guy's statement causes Autistic research to lose awareness and revenue.

And a doctor on an infomercial just gets some dill hole to buy a stupid product. If the product harms the consumer, the company and said MD can be sued.

I'm not saying the FCC should step in, I'm saying Parents of Autistic kids and Autistic awareness groups should sue, and win, for libel.

So Savage listeners were big contributors to autism research? And now they have stopped giving because of his comments?

If anything, awareness has been raised, not lost due to these comments. I saw the headline on Yahoo News and Drudge. Way more exposure than the Savage radio audience.


Edit...he was speaking about a non-tangible disease. Not a specific person, so no individual was damaged.

Just like when some stupid TV preacher says God caused AIDS to punish the butt pirates. No harm no foul.

[Three Hole Puncher]

This guy's statement causes Autistic research to lose awareness and revenue.

Michael Savage just popped a massive erection after being granted such amazing levels of power and influence.

:icon_roll

[Voss's Tumor]

It is the essence of gimme gimme liberalism/socialism in America. When someone brings a child into this world it is their responsibility to nuture and provide for it, not mine.

The issue here is really about welfare/entitlement programs and how spending has ballooned out of control. I guarantee that if SSI imploded tomorrow and there was no more $$ to be had, the diagnosis rate for autism, ADHD, and other quasi-mystical childhood afflictions would shrink by 90%.

On 99.99999% of topics I agree with you.

Not Autism.

ADHD = Most of the time bad parenting or lack of easily prescribed medications

Autism = Bad fucking shit that comes from genetic predispositions for certain things (still not quite sure what yet because of douches like this killing public opinion), and heavy metal poisoning from bad vaccines that the FDA allowed to be produced despite evidence of hazard, plus the government pandering to pharmaceutical companies by increasing mandatory vaccination schedules.

It's like, if unemployment is down 30% because the government made internal combustion engines illegal, I wouldn't have a problem with government subsidies to send them to school for alternative energy education so they could find jobs in the new emerging markets. If the government causes it, the government should be allowed to fix it. The problem comes with the government tries to fix shit politicians don't understand.

[Voss's Tumor]

So Savage listeners were big contributors to autism research? And now they have stopped giving because of his comments?

If anything, awareness has been raised, not lost due to these comments. I saw the headline on Yahoo News and Drudge. Way more exposure than the Savage radio audience.


Edit...he was speaking about a non-tangible disease. Not a specific person, so no individual was damaged.

Just like when some stupid TV preacher says God caused AIDS to punish the butt pirates. No harm no foul.

Michael Savage just popped a massive erection after being granted such amazing levels of power and influence.

:icon_roll

Savage is simply a metaphor for media mis-information on the topic and something needs to be done. A law suit would work nicely to send the message.

[Three Hole Puncher]

Savage is simply a metaphor for media mis-information on the topic...

You mean, the Jooooos, right?

...and something needs to be done. A law suit would work nicely to send the message.

Good idea... the poor lawyers are starving.

[Vyce]

So he offers his opinions in a fact based format?

Open to lawsuit, plain and simple.

Oh really.

You suddenly find a fucking law degree buried in the attic or something?

[Three Hole Puncher]

Oh really.

You suddenly find a fucking law degree buried in the attic or something?

Dewey, Cheatem & Howe will take the case.

[Voss's Tumor]

Oh really.

You suddenly find a fucking law degree buried in the attic or something?

Cattle Ranchers can sue Opera for saying she doesn't prefer red meat but Autistic action groups can't sue a man with a PhD for saying the disease is all in their heads?

Come on dude, put your politics aside, you know would make it to court... Probably not jury trial, but it would be heard.

[SaltyDelights]

Is his show live today? He has some doctor on the show right now but I can't tell if it's taped or not.

edit-If it is live, he's making a big mistake continuing to talk about it. You said what you meant, now move on, Weiner!

[Voss's Tumor]

Is his show live today? He has some doctor on the show right now but I can't tell if it's taped or not.

Where do you guys listen to this douche? I wanna check it out now so my blood can boil a little more

[Lunchbox420]

Savage is simply a metaphor for media mis-information on the topic and something needs to be done. A law suit would work nicely to send the message.

Yeah thats the answer...he said something that someone, somewhere didnt like...FIRE HIM...SUE HIM...KILL HIM.

WTF people, so he said something stupid, Opie says stupid shit on a daily basis, this statement has given more attention to the plight of autistic kids and parents nationwide. Any publicity is good publicity.

[Vyce]

Cattle Ranchers can sue Opera for saying she doesn't prefer red meat but Autistic action groups can't sue a man with a PhD for saying the disease is all in their heads?

Come on dude, put your politics aside, you know would make it to court... Probably not jury trial, but it would be heard.

Yes, because stupid shit gets heard all the time. An idiot can sue a dry cleaner's for millions of dollars for losing his favorite pair of pants.

Doesn't mean that the case has any sort of prayer of succeeding.

And any case against Savage for these remarks would not.

[Myhairygrundle]

Savage is simply a metaphor for media mis-information on the topic and something needs to be done. A law suit would work nicely to send the message.


I didn't go to a fancy law school, but I do know that you cannot sue a metaphor.

[Sidekick Dave]

Of course what he said was ignorant and stupid. But ask someone who actually KNOWs what its like to be autistic. This diverts attention away from the cause over autism. There are many problems facing autistics (and aspies) today. And getting rid of this fat jew isn't going to solve the problem, it only diverts attention away from it.


I would love to debate him on the issue one on one. Because Autism is and always has been REAL. You don't say that AIDS is made up. "Stop fucking the same sex and eat something other than soup." He's ignorant.

[SaltyDelights]

Where do you guys listen to this douche? I wanna check it out now so my blood can boil a little morehttp://mediamatters.org/action_center/savage_autism/stations

I'm not a fan of this guy, but I hope WOR and TRN support him and don't pussy out.

[Zona992006]

Umm, he is a SHOCK JOCK. It is his job to get you rubes upset with what he says. Nappy headed ho's.

Exactly. This is not the first time or last time this douche will say things to make you mention his name. He wins I guess? The only way he looses is if they kick him off the air, then we are right back to the Imus thing.

[Voss's Tumor]

Yeah thats the answer...he said something that someone, somewhere didnt like...FIRE HIM...SUE HIM...KILL HIM.

WTF people, so he said something stupid, Opie says stupid shit on a daily basis, this statement has given more attention to the plight of autistic kids and parents nationwide. Any publicity is good publicity.

No, he said something that hurts the cause of 20,000,000 kids and 40,000,000 parents nation wide that's getting none of the true coverage it deserves.

Opie = comedian shock jock (I wonder if he got a chubby because I said he's funny?)

Douche Bag = Posing as a knowledgeable political and science expert and making claims about medical science that are completely false, thus undermining the cause for a REAL problem in America right now, and I mean a fucking HUGE one.

Yes, because stupid shit gets heard all the time. An idiot can sue a dry cleaner's for millions of dollars for losing his favorite pair of pants.

Doesn't mean that the case has any sort of prayer of succeeding.

And any case against Savage for these remarks would not.

Ehh, your answer sounds more personal/political than legal. I'm not asking if you'd take the case, I'm asking if you know any Robert Shapiro/Johnny Cocheraine types who could win it.

[Lunchbox420]

No, he said something that hurts the cause of 20,000,000 kids and 40,000,000 parents nation wide that's getting none of the true coverage it deserves.

Opie = comedian shock jock (I wonder if he got a chubby because I said he's funny?)

Douche Bag = Posing as a knowledgeable political and science expert and making claims about medical science that are completely false, thus undermining the cause for a REAL problem in America right now, and I mean a fucking HUGE one.



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[Plunkies]

Dude, Dude,Whatever man....you have a big mouth and no clue.

Translation: "I have no rational argument but I'm still upset!"

X2

I normally really like Plunkies, he's just talking out his ass on this one.

I don't agree with your words sir, but I'll defend to the death your right to say them.

Or maybe I'll just sue you.

I haven't decided yet.

[Glenn Dandy]

Translation: "I have no rational argument but I'm still upset!"



I don't agree with your words sir, but I'll defend to the death your right to say them.

Or maybe I'll just sue you.

I haven't decided yet.

Not at all... I just know a jerk when i see one... Ive got better things to do than school you.


the problems in the media go much further than Autism.... If you don't know that... and you live in this country... you aren't real bright... I'll leave it at that.

All the keys on the board and things i could tell you will not change how you percieve things... you are alot like trying to teach a black guy to not litter.

In the imortal words of Richard Dryfus ..

you don't see a problem until it swims up and bites you in the ass.


and to the Lars guy.... are you serious? you are out of your fucking mind... or 18 years old stoopid.

[sniper]

Opie = comedian shock jock (I wonder if he got a chubby because I said he's funny?)

Douche Bag = Posing as a knowledgeable political and science expert and making claims about medical science that are completely false,


Since you keep going back to this point of argument... I'll quote my own post like a douchebag, since you're acting like you didn't read it.


I used to listen to Savage before O&A and he comes from what I would describe as an extreme Louis Black form of comedy where he would go on these hate filled babbling rants that would be so exaggerated it was funny, that is, HIS form of opinionated entertainment. It's all the same shit, nobody has taken Savage seriously in years.


I like how I answered what kind of jock he was before you even asked your question, but you decided to ignore it because it didn't fit your agenda. He has a masters in social work, and the Ph.D which he's mentioned on the air numerous times (at least back when i listened to him) that he didn't care about any of that anymore since he's on radio.


thus undermining the cause for a REAL problem in America right now, and I mean a fucking HUGE one.

I disagree, the HUGE fucking problem in America is people suing everyone for wittle huwt feewings.

[Plunkies]

Not at all... I just know a jerk when i see one... Ive got better things to do than school you.

I see. Getting schooled by your rambling incoherent posts would be embarrassing indeed. I thank you for sparing