XM Sirius Merger = DONE DEAL (Finally approved 3-2 by FCC)

[Kurto2021]

http://orbitcast.com/
Commissioner Deborah Taylor Tate is expected to approve the merger between Sirius Satellite Radio Inc. and XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. in exchange for a consent decree, according to the Wall Street Journal.

According to FCC officials close to the negotiations, Tate will sign off on the deal in exchange for a $20 million fine that resolves several enforcement issues involving the satellite radio companies.

Tate also has asked for other minor conditions, an FCC source said, though exact details are not known.

[DonTheTrucker]

Fine = bribe?

[XMScott]

Fuck

[WhiteHonkyDevil]

Fine = bribe?

Sure sounds like it, doesn't it?

[XMScott]

Its not a bride.

Its fines against the companies for over powered and wrongly placed repeaters and radios with over powered FM transmitters.

[frankw]

Fine = bribe?

Amazing what the FCC can get away with but they will pay it & move on

[DocSavage]

Its not a bride.

Its fines against the companies for over powered and wrongly placed repeaters and radios with over powered FM transmitters.


I guess it's officially a wedding then between SIRI and XM? :action-sm

[Phi Mu Alpha]

Well lets get a prenup

[Habib Haddad]

Fuck

Double fuck. Hope this doesn't bode badly for
the bbbooooys new contract.

[Habib Haddad]

http://orbitcast.com/

XM-Sirius Merger Decision Could Come Today
The five members of the Federal Communications Commission are at a split 2-2 vote on the merger of XM Satellite Radio and Sirius Satellite Radio with Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein announcing today his vote against the union. That leaves just Republican Commissioner, Deborah Tate, to decide whether the companies can create a monopoly in paid satellite radio.

Republicans Kevin Martin and Robert McDowell have voted in favor of the merger. Democrats Michael Copps and Adelstein have voted against.

The agency is expected to approve the merger and a decision could come as early as today on the XM-Sirius merger, according to an official at the FCC. The source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because merger review is ongoing, said Chairman Martin is preparing to fine the satellite radio operators for failing to abide by rules to offer interoperable radios for their technologies. That enforcement action has been a condition pushed by Tate.

[DonTheTrucker]

Its not a bride.

Its fines against the companies for over powered and wrongly placed repeaters and radios with over powered FM transmitters.

Blame NPR stations for that one. No one else gives a shit if my Audiovox Xpress drowns out the local station at 88.3 on the dial.

And where is the fine for all of those companies that make the iPod FM modulators? I'm sure Belkin has sold 5 times the number of FM transmitters that XM and Sirius combined have.

[DocSavage]

Blame NPR stations for that one. No one else gives a shit if my Audiovox Xpress drowns out the local station at 88.3 on the dial.

And where is the fine for all of those companies that make the iPod FM modulators? I'm sure Belkin has sold 5 times the number of FM transmitters that XM and Sirius combined have.

What does National Public Radio have to do with it? SIRI and XM's placement of ground repeaters was at issue. As for your point about other companies equiptment that acts in the same manner as say an XM MYFI I fully agree! Where is the OUTRAGE against Mr. Microphones! :action-sm

[DonTheTrucker]

What does National Public Radio have to do with it? SIRI and XM's placement of ground repeaters was at issue. As for your point about other companies equiptment that acts in the same manner as say an XM MYFI I fully agree! Where is the OUTRAGE against Mr. Microphones! :action-sm

The NPR stations were the originators of the complaint about the FM modulators being too strong. Stupid 500 watt community college stations are the reason we have to use those stupid metal things that clip on our antennas for newer Satellite radios. The repeater issue was a comepltely different thing. The NAB opposed that part.

[DocSavage]

The NPR stations were the originators of the complaint about the FM modulators being too strong. Stupid 500 watt community college stations are the reason we have to use those stupid metal things that clip on our antennas for newer Satellite radios. The repeater issue was a comepltely different thing. The NAB opposed that part.

Thanks Don...I thought maybe you meant RBR?

[cokelogic]

Fine = bribe?
x2
Fuck
x10

[caeserchsburger]

"I guess it's officially a wedding then between SIRI and XM?" I do not think you could call it a wedding, is not Sirius taking over Xm? It is not in any way a merger...

[gilpdawg]

Blame NPR stations for that one. No one else gives a shit if my Audiovox Xpress drowns out the local station at 88.3 on the dial.

And where is the fine for all of those companies that make the iPod FM modulators? I'm sure Belkin has sold 5 times the number of FM transmitters that XM and Sirius combined have.
Those Belkin transmitters have shit for strength. The FM transmitters on the earlier XM and Sirius radios could be heard a block away.

[DocSavage]

"I guess it's officially a wedding then between SIRI and XM?" I do not think you could call it a wedding, is not Sirius taking over Xm? It is not in any way a merger...

:icon_rollahhhh...If you check again...the guy wrote "Bride" instead of "bribe" I was just try to "moonachie it!" :D

[habeasrob]

Woohoo that means over 30 channels of minority and public interest programming that no one will listen too, can't survive in the free market, and we get to pay for! That's really great b/c obviously the hosts of the popular shows were making too much money anyway.

[Three Hole Puncher]

Welp! Get ready for the 'Great Purge of '09' at XM corporate.

Jayzoos Krizzums... it's gonna be a fricken bloodbath.

[striker]

hmm, maybe someone was premature in posting this, the FCC is split on the merger, 2 Board members in favor or and 2 against it, with one Board member changing their opinion from in favor to opposed. The news on this came out at 9:05 am local time, CNBC had a 10 minute discussion on this.

[Mindslayer]

Here's a little more from FMQB:

http://fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=804826

[roche]

hmm, maybe someone was premature in posting this, the FCC is split on the merger, 2 Board members in favor or and 2 against it, with one Board member changing their opinion from in favor to opposed. The news on this came out at 9:05 am local time, CNBC had a 10 minute discussion on this.

Everything I have read said it was 2-2 and this lady make it 3-2 for approved.

[DocSavage]

Here's a little more from FMQB:

http://fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=804826

People on the Hill are talking. Done deal. Now perhaps come the appeals etc etc etc ...it will never end.

[Hobo_Cum]

http://philip9876.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/nuclear-explosion.jpg

[MRahole69]

fuck this sucks

[CJJames]

From DCRTV:

WSJ: Satrad Merger A Done Deal - 7/23 - A tentative deal has been reached by a majority of commissioners at the Federal Communications Commission to approve the satellite radio merger of NYC's Sirius and DC's XM, a FCC source close to the review said Wednesday. According to the Wall Street Journal, Republican commissioner Deborah Tate is the only FCC member left to vote on the deal and she is expected to do so shortly, two FCC officials close to the negotiations said. She is expected to sign off on the deal in exchange for a consent decree that resolves several enforcement issues involving the satellite radio companies and a combined fine of about $20 million, an FCC source close to the deal said. Tate has also asked for a variety of other minor conditions, an FCC source said.....

[Scuba Steve]

From the Wall Street Journal

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121683130281477651.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news



FCC Reaches Tentative Deal
To Approve XM-Sirius Merger
By AMY SCHATZ
July 23, 2008 5:54 p.m.

WASHINGTON – A tentative deal has been reached by a majority of commissioners at the Federal Communications Commission to approve the merger of Sirius Satellite Radio Inc. and XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc., a FCC source close to the review said Wednesday.

Republican commissioner Deborah Taylor Tate is the only FCC member left to vote on the deal and she is expected to do so shortly, two FCC officials close to the negotiations said. She is expected to sign off on the deal in exchange for a consent decree that resolves several enforcement issues involving the satellite radio companies and a combined fine of about $20 million, an FCC source close to the deal said.

Ms. Tate has also asked for a variety of other minor conditions, an FCC source said. An adviser to Ms. Tate did not respond to a call for comment. Exact details about the deal are not known since FCC officials and lawyers for the companies appear to still be working them out.

Ms. Tate's vote would finally end the agency's 13-month review of the deal. Her vote is critical for the deal's approval since the rest of the five-member board remained evenly split on the deal.

As of Wednesday morning, both of the FCC's two Democratic commissioners had voted against the deal. Democrat Jonathan Adelstein announced his decision in a statement, noting he was hoping for a "bipartisan solution" but that the other commissioners weren't interested.

Last week, Mr. Adelstein proposed conditions including a six-year price cap, a 25% channel set-aside for non-commercial and minority-owned stations and interoperable radios that would receive digital signals from terrestrial radio stations.

FCC chairman Kevin Martin had made it clear to the rest of the commissioners Tuesday evening that Mr. Adelstein's conditions would not be a focus of the negotiations, an agency source said.

In recent days, Ms. Tate has been the center of negotiations, as the companies have wrangled over how to resolve several outstanding enforcement issues that have been raised. They include issues involving complaints that some of the satellite radio receivers exceeded FCC power limits and bled into the signals of some local radio stations.

Concerns have also been raised that Sirius has yet to bring to market an interoperable radio despite an FCC requirement that it develop one. Broadcasters have also complained that satellite booster towers were placed in nonapproved locations.



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[MikeMcDouchebag]

Once the mushroom cloud dissipates, would one of you nice people kindly PM me with information as to how I can still listen to the show via underground sources? Thanks.

*Waits for an inbox full of cockpics*

[Tax Kuntz]

Once the mushroom cloud dissipates, would one of you nice people kindly PM me with information as to how I can still listen to the show via underground sources? Thanks.


Paltalk or K-Rock website

[weeniewawa]

Those Belkin transmitters have shit for strength. The FM transmitters on the earlier XM and Sirius radios could be heard a block away.

I have one and it sucks. it doesn't have enough power to overcome a FM station 30 miles away. I changed it out this weekend to a wired FM modulator and now have no problems

[roche]

I have one and it sucks. it doesn't have enough power to overcome a FM station 30 miles away. I changed it out this weekend to a wired FM modulator and now have no problems

I have a first gen MiFi and it also sucks ass. I never understood what the fuss was about.

[DonTheTrucker]

fuck this sucks

You do realize that XM was going to be bankrupt within the year if this didn't happen, right?

I have a first gen MiFi and it also sucks ass. I never understood what the fuss was about.

My 3 year old Audiovox Xpress is so powerful I can override even strong FM signals in cars within 100 feet. When I helped my chick move, she drove my Jeep and I was behind her in the Uhaul. The range was literally a block and a half. It's great. That's why I'd never buy any other plug and play XM, they're too weak now.

[Hydrosludge]

Fuck

War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.

[roche]

My 3 year old Audiovox Xpress is so powerful I can override even strong FM signals in cars within 100 feet. When I helped my chick move, she drove my Jeep and I was behind her in the Uhaul. The range was literally a block and a half. It's great. That's why I'd never buy any other plug and play XM, they're too weak now.

I guess I got a piece of shit. If I am outside I literally have to have the antenna touching the MiFi or there is static.

[CTOAFan]

You do realize that XM was going to be bankrupt within the year if this didn't happen, right?



.

Exactly, the merger going through is the ONLY way we'll still hear the boys on XM.

[Hydrosludge]

You do realize that XM was going to be bankrupt within the year if this didn't happen, right?


I blame the Jews

[CJJames]

I guess I got a piece of shit. If I am outside I literally have to have the antenna touching the MiFi or there is static.

My SkyFi2 is amazing. When its in the center of my house, I can tune into it from my driveway clear as a bell. Wonder if there is a way to rig it for car use......

[Hydrosludge]

My SkiFi2 is amazing. When its in the center of my house, I can tune into it from my driveway clear as a bell. Wonder if there is a way to rig it for car use......

Yes there is a car kit.
http://www.myradiostore.com/home-car-kits/for-skyfi-kit/skyfi-car-kit.html

Make sure and keep the modulator tuned to your local religious station. I did.

[Rackrunner]

Even with approval, NAB could still pose problems according to this. http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/nab-could-still-appeal-sirius-xm-merger-decision.html

[LilAdamWalsh]

Now does this mean the $20 mil is each company equaling $40 mil or is it $20 mil total with each giving $10 mil......Linger LOJDFJidsjfso.......(1st AFRO show)

[Mindslayer]

My SkyFi2 is amazing. When its in the center of my house, I can tune into it from my driveway clear as a bell. Wonder if there is a way to rig it for car use......



Same here, I love my SkyFi2. It comes out crystal clear in my car and at home in the boom box.

[jsc315]

Well now maybe they will have some kind of talk with there contract at least.

[ghirshorn]

I blame the Jews

Do ya?

[Mrwierd]

Now does this mean the $20 mil is each company equaling $40 mil or is it $20 mil total with each giving $10 mil......Linger LOJDFJidsjfso.......(1st AFRO show)

FINES

XM = $17.8 million: XM had tons of illegal repeater locations and power settings plus a couple radio FM modulators cranked up.

Sirius = $2.1 million: Sirius just had a few radio FM transmitters cranked up...thats pretty much it.

[TheSqueakyWheel]

Crap. Well it was nice having O&A for awhile... Sure Mel and Hoo-Hoo will get rid of them and those of us not near NYC will not get them anymore. Dammit

[Stig]

I'm sure the boys love this. I get the feeling they'd love to be bought out and sent home.

[Southern Fried Pest]

I guess I got a piece of shit. If I am outside I literally have to have the antenna touching the MiFi or there is static.

I had my airware on the 12th floor balcony at a condo building when I went to the beach, and I could hear the damn thing half a mile away on 107.1, next to a local 100,000 watt 107.3

[Jerry1]

So now that the merger seems final, only one thing needs to be said.....

SIGN THE BOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you.

[Sprite]

I blame teh J00z.

[ShavedLebaneseBear]

Well, that sucks.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/j7wb/over_johnny.jpg

[DonTheTrucker]

FINES

XM = $17.8 million: XM had tons of illegal repeater locations and power settings plus a couple radio FM modulators cranked up.

Sirius = $2.1 million: Sirius just had a few radio FM transmitters cranked up...thats pretty much it.

Well that makes sense. Anyone who has had Sirius knows that they don't have shit for repeaters.

[ThaDRD]

Remember back in the days when the boys used to make fun of Sirius' equipment, called them "the little doggy" company, and really railed on Howard when they got back to radio via XM?

'Tis a sad day.

[frankw]

I'm sure the boys love this. I get the feeling they'd love to be bought out and sent home.

Bought out of what?

[Mrwierd]

I have one and it sucks. it doesn't have enough power to overcome a FM station 30 miles away. I changed it out this weekend to a wired FM modulator and now have no problems

There is a hack for those Belkin Transmitters. You can look online but, I opened mine up and cut the blue wire in the headphone cable that is soldered onto the board to a spot marked ant. Add a new wire, (I used an 18 awg stranded wire 3 foot long) and soldered it onto where the blue wire in the headphone jack cable was soldered to on the board marked ant.(antenna) and drilled a small hole in case for the new antenna to stick out. My reception is now about 300 foot. Works like a CHAMP!!

Here is the link: http://www.sonic.net/~n7moe/BelkinMod.htm (http://www.sonic.net/%7En7moe/BelkinMod.htm)

The second part of the mod is NOT needed it just shows how to build and amplifier.

[Digital_Trauma]

I guess I got a piece of shit. If I am outside I literally have to have the antenna touching the MiFi or there is static.

I'd guess that the modulator is weak because the battery wouldn't be strong enough in the MiFi. If they were as strong as some of the other models, your charge would go away rather quickly.

[frankw]

ironic that O&A are hanging on there Satrad careers by a thread,when a year ago they were calling sirius the "little doggy company"...that little doggie just grew 10x as big

oh well,karma is a mother fucker


Dean Wormer - I get it

[DJ Evel Ed]

oh well,karmazin is a mother fucker

Fixed it for you.

[DJ Evel Ed]

Once the mushroom cloud dissipates, would one of you nice people kindly PM me with information as to how I can still listen to the show via underground sources? Thanks.

*Waits for an inbox full of cockpics*

There's a bunch of torrent sites that have lots of shows available. I even listened to Stern recently to see if I was missing something funny and I found out I wasn't. His show su-u-u-ucks. The only way I will listen to Hoowie is if I can "rip him off" hoo hoooooo.

http://www.wallsofthewild.com/rooster.jpg

[CTOAFan]

Not sure why people are upset at the merger. The merger is the ONLY shot we have of O&A still being on XM. No merger = no XM period within a year.

[Baggy Spandex]

You're a fucking moron. Each company needs one another.

[TheOnion]

All that waiting for a $20 million fine? Talk about a big fucking waste of time

The boys get a contract....don't make a fucking maniac out of me.

[Mindslayer]

Agreed that the merger can only work in the boys favor at this point since they dont even have a contract right now. My main concern is that this seems more like a takeover than a partnership, with Sirius' suits firmly in charge.

[frankw]

Agreed that the merger can only work in the boys favor at this point since they dont even have a contract right now. My main concern is that this seems more like a takeover than a partnership, with Sirius' suits firmly in charge.

It is more a buyout with Sirius/Mel in the drivers seat regarding management style

Regarding the stalled contract talks, Stern recently said a friend wanted to sign with Sirius recently (obviously Kidd Chriss) but they are in a holding pattern. Also Bubba hasn't officially signed for 2009 but is already discussing his next year at Sirius after his agent met with them a month ago.
It seems like all is on hold for both companies until .......

[frankw]

Dean Wormer - I get it

What happened to the new member (Dean Wormer) ?

Was he deleted?

:haha7:

[Three Hole Puncher]

Originally Posted by Dean Wormer

ironic that O&A are hanging on there Satrad careers by a thread,when a year ago they were calling sirius the "little doggy company"...that little doggie just grew 10x as big


So... XM was 9X bigger than Sirius? Must be using Howie math.

[jsc315]

here is an UPDATE on the merger(not that its anything new):
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-9998421-94.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

XM Satellite Radio and Sirius Satellite Radio confirmed on Thursday that they are discussing a possible consent decree with the Federal Communications Commission in an effort to bring their 17-month merger effort to a conclusion.
The FCC, while inching closer to a resolution since this summer, has had concerns over compliance with commission rules. One concern regards radios with FM transmitters, and the other concern regards transmitters with terrestrial repeaters.

XM and Sirius noted that a possible consent decree with the FCC could include their agreement to:

* Adopt comprehensive compliance plans and take steps to address any potentially noncompliant radios remaining in the hands of consumers.

* In the case of XM, within 60 days of the order adopting the consent decree, shut down 50 variant terrestrial repeaters, and shut down or bring into compliance an additional 50 variant terrestrial repeaters.

* In the case of Sirius, bring into compliance or shut down up to 11 variant terrestrial repeaters within 60 days of the order adopting the consent decree. These terrestrial repeaters were shut off by Sirius in October 2006.

* Make voluntary contributions to the United States Treasury of approximately $17 million in the case of XM, and approximately $2 million in the case of Sirius.
*

One of five FCC commissioners has the swing vote on the XM-Sirius merger, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal.

[HumpX]

Its not a bride.

Its fines against the companies for over powered and wrongly placed repeaters and radios with over powered FM transmitters.

they can label it anything they want. Its grease.

[CTOAFan]

Agreed that the merger can only work in the boys favor at this point since they dont even have a contract right now. My main concern is that this seems more like a takeover than a partnership, with Sirius' suits firmly in charge.


Yup. If there was no merger, I don't know how much longer (XM mainly) each company can continue. XM just had to finance $120 million to pay their annual MLB bill and other obligations. Obviously there's no guarantee Mel will keep the boys on, but it's not too complicated to realize that the boys can't be on XM if there is no XM.

[Vyce]

So, the merger goes through.

Exactly when can I expect to start getting fucked over in terms of pricing scheme or content? I'm guessing within 3 months, tops.

[Jame_gumb]

Those Belkin transmitters have shit for strength. The FM transmitters on the earlier XM and Sirius radios could be heard a block away.i know mine can..i have the first gen inno :action-sm

[Rackrunner]

Vyce, according to the price plans they put out, if you want to stay the same as you have it now, you will. All XM=12.95. Add Sirius for more $. Have a consolidated everything for 16.95 I think. Theres a few links around on here if you look for them.

[Brokeback Jimmy]

Your mom's box


Good luck, bro's

[DJ Evel Ed]

I wonder how much more Howard will ask for in his new contract?
Maybe 5 years-900 million
3 day workweek
2 million signing bonus & stock options

O&A 5 years- 100 million
5 day workweek
no signing bonus.

Mel- whatever he wants and then some...

[Rackrunner]

I wonder how much more Howard will ask for in his new contract?
Maybe 5 years-900 million
3 day workweek
2 million signing bonus & stock options

O&A 5 years- 100 million
5 day workweek
no signing bonus.

Mel- whatever he wants and then some...Howard can ask for anything, what's the company willing to give is the question. As far as O+A go, hopefully this merger will at least get them more than the 3 months they got left now on satellite. Any type of long term deal for both only helps keep the merged company going so that we all get great uncensored radio.

[Ballbuster1]

From Orbitcast today:
The day is finally here. The Federal Communications Commission reached an agreement to conditionally approve the merger between Sirius Satellite Radio Inc. and XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc., according to various reports.
The three Republicans on the five-member Commission have agreed in principle to vote in favor of letting the deal proceed as long as the companies agree to conditions to protect consumers and settle the FCC enforcement matters, Reutershttp://i.ixnp.com/images/v3.40/t.gif (http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNews/idUSN2422655320080724?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0) reports.
"I think it's fair to say an agreement in principle has been reached," FCC Chairman Kevin Martin told the Wall Street Journalhttp://i.ixnp.com/images/v3.40/t.gif (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121690484936980873.html?mod=us_business_whats_ne ws) earlier today.
Martin explained to WSJ that XM received a higher fine because it kept its terrestrial repeaters in operation after being informed by the FCC that they were in violation. Sirius received a smaller fine because it had shut down its towers while waiting for FCC approval.
"That's a significant violation under our rules," said Martin. "Hopefully this is the last issue for us to move forward."
"I'm optimistic and hopeful that we will be able to move forward very quickly," Martin told Reuters.
Tate is expected to vote on the deal as soon as today. The FCC isn't expected to formally release its decision for a few days, as staff attorneys draft the final paperwork for review by the five commissioners.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Vyce, according to the price plans they put out, if you want to stay the same as you have it now, you will. All XM=12.95. Add Sirius for more $. Have a consolidated everything for 16.95 I think. Theres a few links around on here if you look for them.

The different tiers were announced exactly a year ago:

XM's post-merger line up (http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/xms-postmerger.html)

I can't imagine much has changed.

[ThaDRD]

Since the FCC only created two license for the satellite radio companies, what happens to the spare license? Can somebody else have a go at this satellite radio thing?

[South Jersey]

Since the FCC only created two license for the satellite radio companies, what happens to the spare license? Can somebody else have a go at this satellite radio thing?

Can you imagine if Rupert Murdoch announced he was starting his own Sat. Radio company? The fucking Dems in control of congress would "close outer space" in order to prevent it. Sat. radio is done! Melvin Karmazi will ruin it the same way he ruined FM radio.:arrrh:

[XMScott]

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sirius-xm-approved.gif

The day some of us have waited for, and some have dreaded, is here.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/its-over-sirius-xm-merger-approved-by-fcc.html

[Ronreddog]

In the words of the great WBL, Doomed, motherfucking doomed!

[Ball of Hate]

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080724152511.aspx

Stern on XM/Sirius Merger: 'I Will Never Vote For a Democrat Again'
Satellite radio talk show star cites 'gangsterism,' 'communism' for holding up deal.

By Jeff Poor
Business & Media Institute
7/24/2008 3:27:46 PM

Sirius Satellite Radio host Howard Stern supports the merger of his network with XM Satelitte Radio and is fuming at Democratic opposition on the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) panel.

After FCC commissioners announced they have reached a deal to approve the merger of Sirius (NASDAQ:SIRI) and XM (NASDAQ:XMSR), Stern ranted about Democrats’ ‘gangsterism’ and ‘communism’ and the obstacles to the merger.

Stern described a phone conversation he had with his agent, who he described as a “liberal Democrat kind of guy.”

“I go, ‘That’s it!’” Stern said. “[I] go, ‘You know what Don, I’ve voted Republican and I’ve voted Democrat. I have vowed I will never vote for a Democrat again. I don’t give a [expletive] – no matter who they are. I don’t care if God becomes a Democrat.’ I said, ‘I backed Hillary Clinton, I backed Al Gore, I backed John Kerry. I am done with them.’”

Stern took it a step even further and called Democrats on the FCC “communists” and referred to their tactics as “gangsterism.”

“The fact that these Democrats on the FCC are communists,” Stern said. “They’re for communism. They don’t want to see companies – this is gangsterism. I said, ‘This is crazy.’”

The FCC commission is a five-member panel made up of three Republicans and two Democrats. The Democrats include Jonathan Adelstein and Michael Copps. The Republicans include FCC Chairman Kevin Martin, Robert McDowell and Deborah Taylor Tate. Tate had been the swing vote on the proposed merger and on July 24 The Wall Street Journal reported she would vote in favor of the merger.

Yet he forgets backing GWB??? "whaa"

[TEXAS TRUCKER]

Op? Ant? Comment? Tune in tomorrow.........Anyone got a spare fallout shelter?

[Mrwierd]

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080724152511.aspx



Yet he forgets backing GWB??? "whaa"

Stern voted for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004... Where you get he supported GWB is beyond me. He did support going after terrorists if that is what you mean.. Robin voted for Bush in 2000. The other republicans I remember him supporting was Guilliani, and a couple of governors.....

[Sinn Fein]

In the words of the great WBL, Doomed, motherfucking doomed!

That about sums it all up.

[Motor Head]

A world were Mel runs satelite radio....here is a pic of Hoo Hoo without his labratory grown flesh.
http://www.stuffwelike.com/stuffwelike/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/terminator.jpg

Hoo Hoo Hoo, I invented Armageddon...these bible people are ripping me off.

[Hoagie]

Well at least this will be one less monthly bill I have to pay in a couple months.

[nivla67]

Since the FCC only created two license for the satellite radio companies, what happens to the spare license? Can somebody else have a go at this satellite radio thing?

I thought I heard that Slacker.com was planning satellite access to music for its portable player.

[frankw]

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080724152511.aspx



Yet he forgets backing GWB??? "whaa"

He never did, he supported Gore then Kerry in elections
He admits constantly he backed GWB going to war but regrets it

[mattiew23m]

Well at least this will be one less monthly bill I have to pay in a couple months.

OoOo I just got a bill, I probably won't pay it.. Well, I will just wait to hear what op, and ant say

[mattiew23m]

I thought I heard that Slacker.com was planning satellite access to music for its portable player.

They want to, because they put a lot of thought into the technology, and the portable player. It is an amazing product, but not enough people are willing to try it due to the ipod. The thing that is cool about this is, it does not require a download feature to hear artists, and you create your own stations. Its actually fun, and they are making a car kit soon. I would love to see O&A start fresh on slacker, but who know's if slacker has the cash to pay for a show like O&A.

[clownfish]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In the words of the great WBL, Doomed, motherfucking doomed!

I'm not so sure. On the one hand, there's no one left at XM to negotiate a deal with O&A if the merger were to not go through. Also, if the merge did fall apart would XM be able to afford to continue to dole out the kind of money they have in the past to attract talent?

"When" the merger does go through, my feeling is Sirius/XM would want to keep O&A for a year just to keep everybody happy. I'll bet they get a shitty, short term (like one year) deal but it will be something. That way if they don't sign up Mel and the gang can say: "Don't blame us we tried to keep em".

Looking further down the road, if the quality of the show continues maybe they get a long term deal after the year is up.

But really at the end of the day, what the fuck do I know, right?

[frankw]

I'll bet they get a shitty, short term (like one year) deal but it will be something. That way if they don't sign up Mel and the gang can say: "Don't blame us we tried to keep em".



I don't think that thought will enter Mel's mind.

He already said he doesn't want to have them on both FM & Sat so he will offer them an XM only that he feels they are worth or let them go to FM

I don't think he cares about being blamed for losing Opie & Anthony if they do not stay

[XMScott]

I love how neither company has seen a bump in stock prices after the approval.

Satellite radio is a dead medium. With or without O&A. Apple or Google should have stepped in and saved XM.

Even if the merger wasnt approved all the big heads at XM have already left. Boo hoo hoo.

[frankw]

I love how neither company has seen a bump in stock prices after the approval.



Nothing has been officially approved yet, until shareholders/investors see the exact deal & concessions & its 100% official I doubt we will see any changes.

[Phi Mu Alpha]

Fuck

War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.Over, did you say OVER? NOTHING IS OVER UNTIL WE DIECDE THAT IT IS? WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR? HELL NO!

[Xero1]

The merger saves both companies.

The companies were wasting too many resources competing with each other when the true competition is terrestrial radio, Ipod/Digital downloads, CD, and HD Radio.

It also gives them bargaining power against talent. Without another satrad competitor they don't have to pay talent huge sums of money to lock them into exclusivity deals.

The merger will pass both boards quickly as it is the only option at this point to gain significant profitability.

As for O&A they will get their option extended but they are going to have to make certain concessions. I'm not sure when the CBS deal runs out but sharing talent with a competitor has not proven to help the business only hurt it.

[Phi Mu Alpha]

How does it help both companies?

[XMScott]

How does it help both companies?

XM can use the Sirius method of gaining parking lot subscribers?

[Phi Mu Alpha]

That would sound logically to me

[gollybob]

I am afraid that the boys will be off XM in the very near future. Therefore there will be no need for me to pay for satellite radio. I would rather send a check each month to the "O & A Internet Broadcast Company, Inc." to pay for an internet broadcast than send a check to XM. The only other question would be the cost of adding Ron and Fez noon to three.

[Phi Mu Alpha]

You realize that if that went through the FCC would try to censor that as well?

[CTOAFan]

So, the merger goes through.

Exactly when can I expect to start getting fucked over in terms of pricing scheme or content? I'm guessing within 3 months, tops.


Part of the conditions from the FCC is that the company may not raise prices for 3 years. But also part of the deal is 8% of the stations must be for minorities.

[Xero1]

How does it help both companies?

It helps them in a lot of ways.

It reduces costs. Having a smaller combined employee group as opposed to two large employee groups cuts costs on salary. Marketing a single satrad entity as opposed to two reduces advertising. A single company pays royalties, licensing fees, etc. as opposed to them both paying.

It offers the company more bargaining power with talent and advertisers.

It clears up confusion in the marketplace. No longer will you have to say I want the one with (Insert Name) because regardless if it is XM or Sirius you will likely have it.

It provides much better financing options in regards to restructuring debt. It also provides both companies with better technology.

O&A will do well from this because I think 202 will be a part of the XM Select programming on the Sirius signal. Although I also suspect Stern will be part of the select Sirius on the XM signal. It will help both as it will provide them with larger potential listener bases. This of course will help the company when it comes to advertising revenue as well.

[Phi Mu Alpha]

Marketing it makes so you can try to bring in more people. Though, something tells me there going to make you pay to hear OnA like when they first came to Satelite. Then they wont make Hoo Hoo's channel.

[frankw]

O&A will do well from this because I think 202 will be a part of the XM Select programming on the Sirius signal. Although I also suspect Stern will be part of the select Sirius on the XM signal. It will help both as it will provide them with larger potential listener bases. This of course will help the company when it comes to advertising revenue as well.


If O&A re-sign any Sirius listener would ned to pay extra to hear them (same in reverse with Stern) so the audiences won't grow nearly as much as some think
Also since their will be a lower-tier that Stern & possibly O&A won't be part of a lot of potential listeners won't "find" the show & they both might even lose some casual listeners that want to save money.The big winners will be the music stations as far as new listeners go

[CTOAFan]

How does it help both companies?


The merger allows the companies (especially XM) to exist.

[Phi Mu Alpha]

Hey aslong as the keep the ViRUS, Squizz, and Fungus I'm good but if any of those three esicpelly the ViRUS goes bye bye I say good bye sir

[frankw]

Marketing it makes so you can try to bring in more people. Though, something tells me there going to make you pay to hear OnA like when they first came to Satelite. Then they wont make Hoo Hoo's channel.


What "something" tells you that?

You haven't read any articles on this have you?

[Xero1]

If you're a current Sirius or XM subscriber you pay absolutely nothing more for what you currently have. They can't fuck with that for 3 years.

Yes to hear O&A as a Sirius subscriber you would likely have to fork over an extra $4 for the Select XM package in addition to the current $12.99

If you're a current XM subscriber it costs you nothing extra to hear them. If you want Stern or Martha Stewart or Blue Collar Radio then yes you would need to pay an extra $4 for the Select Sirius package in addition to the current $12.99

Although it doesn't mean getting the 8 million Sirius listeners automatically it does mean you have the opportunity to tap into that audience. An opportunity as opposed to the nothing you get when XM would go under without the merger.

But I do think you will see those Select XM and Select Sirius packages free for at least a month on each service with some great radio to entice people to upgrade after a month.

[Phi Mu Alpha]

What "something" tells you that?

You haven't read any articles on this have you?

It's just a hunch I got

[frankw]

It's just a hunch I got

Your hunch goes against every report released for the last year lol

;)

[frankw]

Nothing has been officially approved yet, until shareholders/investors see the exact deal & concessions & its 100% official I doubt we will see any changes.

Like I was saying :icon_roll


According to R&R:
Tate Hesitates On Satellite Merger?
The satellite merger of Sirius and XM has apparently hit a snag: Commissioner Deborah Taylor Tate has not given chairman Kevin Martin absolute assurance that she will vote in favor of the merger, R&R has learned. Tate was expected to render a "yes" vote on the merger proposal today (July 25) and the commission was prepared to approve the deal with the satellite companies. But now the deal appears to be in a state of flux, according to an FCC source close to the discussions.

[frankw]

But I do think you will see those Select XM and Select Sirius packages free for at least a month on each service with some great radio to entice people to upgrade after a month.

Thats a great idea & I hope you are correct.
:clap:

[Xero1]

Like I was saying :icon_roll


According to R&R:
Tate Hesitates On Satellite Merger?
The satellite merger of Sirius and XM has apparently hit a snag: Commissioner Deborah Taylor Tate has not given chairman Kevin Martin absolute assurance that she will vote in favor of the merger, R&R has learned. Tate was expected to render a "yes" vote on the merger proposal today (July 25) and the commission was prepared to approve the deal with the satellite companies. But now the deal appears to be in a state of flux, according to an FCC source close to the discussions.

She just wants to have her enforcement language added to the proposal. The proposal as it stands now does not include it.

In laymens terms she wants it in writing.

[frankw]

She just wants to have her enforcement language added to the proposal. The proposal as it stands now does not include it.

In laymens terms she wants it in writing.

I'm not debating if it will go through but just following up why the stocks haven't reacted yet. Nothing is final with this yet was my point Xero

[Xero1]

I'm not debating if it will go through but just following up why the stocks haven't reacted yet. Nothing is final with this yet was my point Xero

Sorry I misunderstood you. However; I am positive it will go through. The only reason Tate has not signed off is because her provisions were not added to the proposal she was given. I think the R&R article is making it seem like she had a change of heart which is not the case.

[frankw]

Sorry I misunderstood you. However; I am positive it will go through. The only reason Tate has not signed off is because her provisions were not added to the proposal she was given. I think the R&R article is making it seem like she had a change of heart which is not the case.


No need to be sorry, it was a follow-up explaining why the stocks haven't reacted to the merger going through, I responded because the market is tired of crying wolf and will wait for it to be fully realized. The way things have gone for 16 months is bullshit & there is skepticism of more bullshit

[doUsmellthat]

I can't believe it.....I just messed up my pants

[LZMF1]

well i have XM in both of my vehicles and i also have an XM mini tuner for my yamaha surround sound reciever. i just bought a nice lil' onkyo TX-SR606 and that is sirius ready. i'll wait till all the dust settles to get a mini tuner or whatever sirius offers for that type of application. i checked online and sirius's version is not only MUCH bigger but costs @ $130 meanwhile the XM mini tuners are a mere 30 bucks.


we'll see what happens when it happens.

[gilpdawg]

The different tiers were announced exactly a year ago:

XM's post-merger line up (http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/xms-postmerger.html)

I can't imagine much has changed.
That's only a proposed lineup. Nothing official about that at all.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Yes to hear O&A as a Sirius subscriber you would likely have to fork over an extra $4 for the Select XM package in addition to the current $12.99

If you're a current XM subscriber it costs you nothing extra to hear them. If you want Stern or Martha Stewart or Blue Collar Radio then yes you would need to pay an extra $4 for the Select Sirius package in addition to the current $12.99

We've been through this before, and you still don't have a good answer for this:

Stern is listed as a $6 premium option on the Sirius post-merger channel lineup. The cheapest Sirius package is $6.99. Adding Howard would be more than it costs to currently get everything on Sirius. That means they are not marketing Howard as an add-on to new Sirius subscribers. That price is obviously for XM subs who want to add him on the new non-existent radios.

Why do you still insist that he will be available as part of the Select Sirius package that includes 9 other channels for only $4? If that's the case, you might as well elminate his channels as a $6 option, because there is no circumstance where anyone would be dumb enough to pay the $6.

I see these new plans as exactly what they are - an attempt to split the most wanted programming over as many tiers as possible, just like cable TV. Howard will not be given away as part of a $4 programming package when his channels alone are $6. That makes no sense.

That's only a proposed lineup. Nothing official about that at all.

http://photos23.flickr.com/24427597_0cba60d473_o.jpg

[Polack]

Am I the only one who is ok with the merger? I see this as everyone getting better radio. Everyone gets more choices. I bought my units because of O&A but if they go I will still subscribe because there is nothing else out there that compares to Satellite radio. Right now I would be really angry if Ron and Fez weren't with the new company but that's for the big wigs to decide. I really don't think the merged company is going to let go of O&A or Ron and Fez. I think they are just thinking about other things and will eventually resign the boys.

[WOWmagnet]

How does it help both companies?

Well, for starters they can get rid of Erock and get someone who shows up on time.

[mikeybot]

Am I the only one who is ok with the merger? I see this as everyone getting better radio. Everyone gets more choices. I bought my units because of O&A but if they go I will still subscribe because there is nothing else out there that compares to Satellite radio. Right now I would be really angry if Ron and Fez weren't with the new company but that's for the big wigs to decide. I really don't think the merged company is going to let go of O&A or Ron and Fez. I think they are just thinking about other things and will eventually resign the boys.

As long as nothing happens to O&A at all, I'm fine with it.
Otherwise, I'm flushing my XM, not buying a Sirius and fucking someone else's mother.

[Ballbuster1]

Well, for starters they can get rid of Erock and get someone who shows up on time.
Ouch!!!

[Xero1]

We've been through this before, and you still don't have a good answer for this:

Stern is listed as a $6 premium option on the Sirius post-merger channel lineup. The cheapest Sirius package is $6.99. Adding Howard would be more than it costs to currently get everything on Sirius. That means they are not marketing Howard as an add-on to new Sirius subscribers. That price is obviously for XM subs who want to add him on the new non-existent radios.

Why do you still insist that he will be available as part of the Select Sirius package that includes 9 other channels for only $4? If that's the case, you might as well elminate his channels as a $6 option, because there is no circumstance where anyone would be dumb enough to pay the $6.

I see these new plans as exactly what they are - an attempt to split the most wanted programming over as many tiers as possible, just like cable TV. Howard will not be given away as part of a $4 programming package when his channels alone are $6. That makes no sense.

You're not understanding how this works is why don't understand it.

With the Ala Carte option for SIRIUS subscribers the SIRIUS subscribers can opt to drop things and add just Howard Stern for $6.

XM subscribers can not pick and choose through both services for ala carte. You can ala carte the current XM line-up and/or add a package of select SIRIUS programming. If you Ala Carte XM it costs an additional price for 202 also.

So by offering Stern as part of the package for XM subscribers they aren't losing two dollars they are making four dollars.

Like him or not Stern is a flagship talent for them. They are not going to put stuff on that package that isn't going to get current XM subscribers to chip in $4 and move up to a higher plan. The more people add the Select Sirius programming tier the more money they make.

Likewise for Sirius Subscribers. They will want to put programs in the tier that will encourage current Sirius subscribers to buy it. They will put in their flagship talent which in my opinion will include O&A and 202.

The ala carte pricing of Sirius has nothing to do with current XM subscribers. The XM ala carte pricing has nothing to do with current Sirius subscribers.

[ddberry]

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzfcc0726,0,6653316.story

The Newsday Headline:
Finally Howard Stern for all as FCC approve satellite merger

[Gant]

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iOz1FYWduExBs1ZzZ6SfJvkPX1DAD925764G0

[tysonpunchinguterus]

Good. Now maybe someone can get on with extending O & A's contract instead of sitting around waiting for the merger to be approved.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iOz1FYWduExBs1ZzZ6SfJvkPX1DAD925764G0

[CJJames]

I was never for the merger, but now that the point is moot, I hope for the best for the b-b-boys. The fella replacing Logan in the short term is Jon Zellner, Senior Vice-President of Music Programming for XM. Like everyone else, I hope the option is picked up soon, but I bet everyone will wait 'till after Hurricane Karmizan's impending strike. ::hammer:

[Debbie1125]

As long as O&A and Ron and Fez stay..........so will my subscription. Otherwise I'm gone.

[Goblin]

I'm not renewing my sub. Fuck you Mel Karmazin. You to Hoo Hoo.

[Sinn Fein]

This whole process kinda feels like waiting in a room, knowing you're going to be anally violated - worrying how big the guy is gonna be, thinking maybe there's the slightest chance you can fight him off. But now, those kind of thoughts are gone. The guy is now in the room and you know there's no chance of escape. Now, you're just worried how big his cock is.

[Habib Haddad]

approval to merge with Sirius Satellite Radio after the deciding vote in the Federal Communications Commission was cast tonight, putting an end to a contentious and drawn-out bid to join the companies.

The decision was delayed Friday by a last-minute stalemate between two Republican commissioners. Commissioner Deborah Taylor Tate refused to cast her tie-breaking vote to approve the merger until FCC Chairman Kevin J. Martin cast his own deciding vote to penalize the companies for violating some technical rules. The hold-up was resolved when Tate formally voted in favor of the deal.

The deal was largely sealed Thursday when the FCC fined the nation's two major satellite radio companies $20 million for breaking federal rules. The enforcement of the technical offenses was a sticking point for Tate, the last of the five-member commission to cast her vote on the deal.

The FCC's approval means XM and Sirius have passed the final regulatory hurdle associated with the $13 billion merger, which was proposed almost a year and a half ago. It also means satellite radio consumers will have access to both companies' programming and, eventually, more choices in terms of channel packages.


The merger has been heavily critized by the broadcasting industry, consumer groups and dozens of lawmakers and state attorneys general who argue the merger would create a monopoly satellite radio provider that could lead to higher prices and fewer programming options. But the deal passed antitrust scrutiny by the Justice Department in March and has been under the FCC's review for more than 16 months.

Under conditions imposed by the FCC, the companies have promised to let consumers pick only the channels they want and pay less for certain packages of channels. Radios that allow a-la-carte channel selections will also eventually be available for car dashboards -- the largest area of growth for the companies.

[CJJames]

>>Radios that allow a-la-carte channel selections will also eventually be available for car dashboards -- the largest area of growth for the companies.<<

I wouldn't mind an Inno-type of radio whose programming I could pick...say dump all of the country shit and pick up additional music channels from the little doggie. I want a portable radio that can operate in and our of the car, though. I'm not a trucker or cabbie, so car dashboard doesn't do ti for me.

Of course, the price has to be nice. And if that happens, I wonder if Mel will keep any channels commercial-free.

[Hydrosludge]

The merger saves both companies.

The companies were wasting too many resources.
Gee, How did that get started?


O&A will do well from this because I think 202 will be a part of the XM Select programming on the Sirius signal. Although I also suspect Stern will be part of the select Sirius on the XM signal. It will help both as it will provide them with larger potential listener bases. This of course will help the company when it comes to advertising revenue as well.

Where is all this bandwidth coming from?


ONA's first show an Sirius, are they going to slam ONA?

[Bacon]

Man, just a few years ago O&A were talking so much shit about Sirius and how XM would kick there ass, and how Howard didn't matter. Now Sirius has effectively purchased XM and O&A are unsure about their contract renewal...

Hope they stay on XM, because it's better than their FM show and they're losing stations left and right. And for the love of God, let Ron and Fez stay too.

[TheOnion]

As long as O&A and Ron and Fez stay..........so will my subscription. Otherwise I'm gone.


x2

[blacknoi]

Done, official.


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iOz1FYWduExBs1ZzZ6SfJvkPX1DAD925764G0
FCC approves satellite radio merger in 3-2 vote

By JOHN DUNBAR – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal regulators have formally approved the merger of the nation's only two satellite radio operators, ending a 16-month-long drama closely watched by Washington and Wall Street.

Sirius Satellite Radio Inc.'s $3.6 billion buyout of rival XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc. will mean 18 million-plus subscribers will be able to receive programming from both services. Executives say it will mean huge cost savings that will lead to a first-ever profit for the relatively nascent industry.

The Federal Communications Commission voted 3-2 to approve the buyout with the tie-breaking vote coming when the companies agreed to pay $19.7 million to the U.S. Treasury to settle FCC rule violations.

[Sinn Fein]

as long as o&a and ron and fez stay..........so will my subscription. Otherwise i'm gone.

x2

x3

[LilAdamWalsh]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080726/ap_on_go_ot/fcc_xm_sirius


Thats it boys and girls.....let the countdown really begin. :arrrh:

[progambler2]

x4

I dont listen to anything else.

[King Jumungus]

your moms box

[boomer]

x3

Quatro

[LilAdamWalsh]

As long as O&A and Ron and Fez stay..........so will my subscription. Otherwise I'm gone.


And like Goblin said.....Fuck you Mel and Hoo Hoo.

[IDidItAll]

This whole process kinda feels like waiting in a room, knowing you're going to be anally violated - worrying how big the guy is gonna be, thinking maybe there's the slightest chance you can fight him off. But now, those kind of thoughts are gone. The guy is now in the room and you know there's no chance of escape. Now, you're just worried how big his cock is.

That's a good anology.

Perhaps a little TOO good.

[Hydrosludge]

Howard Stern is the King of all Media.

[badcellphoneguy]

Howard Stern is the King of all Media.


Ummm Howard who?

[Polack]

Ummm Howard who?

His name is Howard Stern and he is the king of all media. (at least until the boys get their new contract.)

[Bacon]

Ummm Howard who?

You know, the guy that helped Sirius become the dominant company in the merger, and the one that is in all the articles about the merger.

Looks like he isn't as irrelevant as O&A thought.

[Sinn Fein]

:icon_roll

[Hog's Big Ben]

You're not understanding how this works is why don't understand it.

With the Ala Carte option for SIRIUS subscribers the SIRIUS subscribers can opt to drop things and add just Howard Stern for $6.

"Drop things"? Drop what? The only deal that allows dropping something and adding Stern for $6 that actually costs less then keeping everything is dropping everything else except Stern. The cheapest Sirius base package is $6.99!

I would love to see things through your rosy glasses, I really would. But I fully expect them to fuck us any chance they get, especially since they are now locked into a 3 year price freeze. They want to sell those new radios. If the best programming from the other company is made available on the $4 plan on old radios, what's the incentive for buying a new radio? Retail is all but dried up.

I wouldn't put it past them to have been shipping interoperable radios for the last year or so in cars.

I hope you're right. I'm just not holding my breath.

[livebackwards]

As long as O&A and Ron and Fez stay..........so will my subscription. Otherwise I'm gone.

x5

If the unspoken cease-fire doesn't hold, let's hope Mel Karmazzy has the brains to let the feud roll and stay away from gag orders... at least it would be fucking entertaining.

Not getting my hopes up, though.

[Jerry1]

Gas & food prices going up, global warming on the increase, word of a killer asteroid on the way, Sirius buying XM, our next president may be a ni........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeo0_3gN190

[FloridaDave]

Doomed. Fucking doomed.

.......Your Mom's Box.

[TEXAS TRUCKER]

Howard Stern is the SELF PROCLAIMED King of all Media.
Fixed it.

[CJJames]

But I fully expect them to fuck us any chance they get, especially since they are now locked into a 3 year price freeze. They want to sell those new radios. If the best programming from the other company is made available on the $4 plan on old radios, what's the incentive for buying a new radio? Retail is all but dried up.

I wouldn't put it past them to have been shipping interoperable radios for the last year or so in cars.

I hope you're right. I'm just not holding my breath.

QFT:clap:

[Fruit Monkey]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/26/business/media/26radio.html?ref=business

[UnOriginal]

Ymb?

[ChinaClit]

Welli guess the man sticks it to us again!


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[BullsLawDan]

meh... who cares? The sun will rise tomorrow.

Everyone is making too much of a deal over this IMO. It will be a while before anything changes substantially.

Two huge companies merge, it's sometimes YEARS before synergies start to develop. I think these two will move quickly because of the need to, but still... relax.

[ebrecher]

There is one sure way that the show can go on, and that is if the boys will take a significant paycut and make the show more profitable for XM/Sirius. I think they should put the quality of the show above their salaries.

[frankw]

There is one sure way that the show can go on, and that is if the boys will take a significant paycut and make the show more profitable for XM/Sirius. I think they should put the quality of the show above their salaries.


Don't forget to sign with Mel they would most likely have to give up FM next year too, so it will be an even bigger hit salary wise

[Dr Midnight]

Well this stinks. I have no knowledge of the inner workings and the business of what's going to happen, but based on the little I know... I think it's not going to be pretty.

Holy shit I do hope I'm not looking at the end of a golden age of the show.

[frankw]

Well this stinks. I have no knowledge of the inner workings and the business of what's going to happen, but based on the little I know... I think it's not going to be pretty.

Holy shit I do hope I'm not looking at the end of a golden age of the show.


As long as they pull good demo's in NYC (male) they should be safe on 92.3. In big markets demo's mean a lot because they cater the advertising more than mid-size markets do.
If XM/Sirius lets them go they can do 4-5hrs on FM in NYC while trying to get some syndication back on track

[ebrecher]

Don't forget to sign with Mel they would most likely have to give up FM next year too, so it will be an even bigger hit salary wise
That's true, but if they were to cut their salaries back from 5 million each a year to 1-2 million they would definitely make it more profitable for both terristorial and satelite radio to keep them on. Then they should get the eye of the tiger back and start producing better and better shows and start drawing in larger audiences. After they have been able to attract a larger audience by significantly improving their product they can renegotiate their contracts. The important point is that it is up to the boys to do what they can for the sake of the show to keep it around for us devoted listeners.

[frankw]

That's true, but if they were to cut their salaries back from 5 million each a year to 1-2 million they would definitely make it more profitable for both terristorial and satelite radio to keep them on. Then they should get the eye of the tiger back and start producing better and better shows and start drawing in larger audiences. After they have been able to attract a larger audience by significantly improving their product they can renegotiate their contracts. The important point is that it is up to the boys to do what they can for the sake of the show to keep it around for us devoted listeners.

I don't think Mel will allow them to re-sign with FM even at a lower cost

It took Howard to go to bat for Bubba to allow him to do 2 separate shows, Mel is on record as saying it makes no sense to simulcast a show and he certainly won't be looking to do O&A any favors & Howard won't ask him to (like Bubba).

Its either XM at the salary Mel wants or FM full time IMO

[hudsonharden]

as long as than & sam survive, I'm happy.

[ebrecher]

I don't think Mel will allow them to re-sign with FM even at a lower cost

It took Howard to go to bat for Bubba to allow him to do 2 separate shows, Mel is on record as saying it makes no sense to simulcast a show and he certainly won't be looking to do O&A any favors & Howard won't ask him to (like Bubba).

Its either XM at the salary Mel wants or FM full time IMO I agree with you unless the boys can cut a deal with fm and xm/sirius to make it more profitable for Mel to allow them to continue to simulcast, otherwise I think they should lower their salary and strike a deal with xm/sirius. The important point is to keep the show going and to improve on the show thereby attracting more listeners over time.

[frankw]

I agree with you unless the boys can cut a deal with fm and xm/sirius to make it more profitable for Mel to allow them to continue to simulcast, otherwise I think they should lower their salary and strike a deal with xm/sirius. The important point is to keep the show going and to improve on the show thereby attracting more listeners over time.

Mel won't do that, he is dead set against sharing content whenever possible.

I agree they might have to take a paycut to stay on XM but my feeling is they will wind up FM full time with added salary for 2 more hours & try to syndicate again.

The strongest thing they have going for them is not XM numbers, or great overall rating on FM but HUGE male demo's in the biggest market there is. That is the biggest bargaining chip they have and thats where their power lies.
In markets like Buffalo, Syracuse, etc. the demo's are not as important as in NYC so that is why they were not in a good position

[ebrecher]

Mel won't do that, he is dead set against sharing content whenever possible.

I agree they might have to take a paycut to stay on XM but my feeling is they will wind up FM full time with added salary for 2 more hours & try to syndicate again.

The strongest thing they have going for them is not XM numbers, or great overall rating on FM but HUGE male demo's in the biggest market there is. That is the biggest bargaining chip they have and thats where their power lies.
In markets like Buffalo, Syracuse, etc. the demo's are not as important as in NYC so that is why they were not in a good position

The excellent demographics in NYC certainly ensure that they can have a terrestrial show in NYC whenever they want. However, the increasing censorship on terrestrial radio makes it difficult for the boys to maintain an edgy interesting show. Therefore I think the best option would be to go to satelite where they can really enhance and refine their show and make sure that it is available to fans throughout the world. It's the show that matters and being able to deliver it to the fans that's critical here not the boy's salary.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Can you two idiots suck each other's dicks in PMs?

[ebrecher]

Can you two idiots suck each other's dicks in PMs?WE are discussing how to keep the show going matey. Take it easy.

[Hog's Big Ben]

WE are discussing how to keep the show going matey. Take it easy.

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[ebrecher]

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9562/trollwj9.jpg
Why in the world would you call me a troll mate?

[frankw]

WE are discussing how to keep the show going matey. Take it easy.


Just ignore him like I do ;)

[frankw]

The excellent demographics in NYC certainly ensure that they can have a terrestrial show in NYC whenever they want. However, the increasing censorship on terrestrial radio makes it difficult for the boys to maintain an edgy interesting show. Therefore I think the best option would be to go to satelite where they can really enhance and refine their show and make sure that it is available to fans throughout the world. It's the show that matters and being able to deliver it to the fans that's critical here not the boy's salary.

I hear what you are saying but salary will play into everything & its no secret they want to be "the show" & do it on FM

[Earth2murf]

Fuck Hoo Hoo long Live Ron and Fez

[watsonnostaw]

I hear what you are saying but salary will play into everything & its no secret they want to be "the show" & do it on FM

is it really a show when the content is hacked to death?

[watsonnostaw]

Double fuck. Hope this doesn't bode badly for
the bbbooooys new contract.

stick a fork in the boys they are done, back to regional radio in New York, Boston and perhaps Philadelphia

good luck bro

[CougarHunter]

My sub is cancelled as of 13 August.

[Arch Stanton]

Just saw this on FOX News Channel. I just said out loud, well, that's it.

There are only two shows I care about. Same as most here.

[Tooz]

There is one sure way that the show can go on, and that is if the boys will take a significant paycut and make the show more profitable for XM/Sirius. I think they should put the quality of the show above their salaries.

IF XM/SIRIS were to take O&A off, the would lose a few susbscribers I'd think, which would take money out of theior pockets. I would think those in charge would know all about homeless charlie.
And how many more years will Hoo Hoo even be on radio ? He already seems to have 12 weeks of vaca to go with his 4 day week. IF those now in charge are smart, they would just leave 202 alone..............:mad4:

[Xero1]

"Drop things"? Drop what? The only deal that allows dropping something and adding Stern for $6 that actually costs less then keeping everything is dropping everything else except Stern. The cheapest Sirius base package is $6.99!

I would love to see things through your rosy glasses, I really would. But I fully expect them to fuck us any chance they get, especially since they are now locked into a 3 year price freeze. They want to sell those new radios. If the best programming from the other company is made available on the $4 plan on old radios, what's the incentive for buying a new radio? Retail is all but dried up.

I wouldn't put it past them to have been shipping interoperable radios for the last year or so in cars.

I hope you're right. I'm just not holding my breath.

They aren't rosy glasses, their green.

For starters there aren't interoperable radios out there now. Both companies didn't heavily invest in the R&D because of the uncertainty of the merger. There might be a 3rd party developed one out there but certainly none from XM or Sirius.

Let's just do this statistically. There are roughly 15 million subscribers out there. Now both companies count shadow subscribers so to be conservative let's say there are 12 million paying subscribers.

How many of those 12 million do you expect to buy new radios solely for the ala carte option? I would venture a guess of 10-15% and this is only when those new devices are available likely next year.

In the meantime you have 12 million subs out there who now have 3 options. They can stay as is, they can get just music or they can upgrade to select programming from the other service.

So do you honestly think they will not try and entice current subs to upgrade? They will just sit on potential positive cash in favor of waiting for interoperable radios and ala carte pricing?

Let's say conservatively only 10% upgrade to select programming. That's 1.2 million users at an additional $4 per month. That's an additional revenue stream of 4.8 million per month, an additional 57.6 million per year. And that is a conservative estimate as I think the number could be as high as 25%.

Also this helps in the retail sector. No longer will someone have to say I want the NFL and Opie & Anthony and be forced to get two radios. They will just say get a Sirius radio and add the select XM package, Likewise if someone wants MLB and Stern get an XM radio and add the select Sirius programming.

Personally I can't stand Mel or his ethics BUT he is not stupid when it comes to making money. He knows right now there is potential for revenue growth within the current base and the easiest way to expand that base for the time being is to offer highly desired programming in the select service tier.

I stand by my prediction that you will see 202 on the select XM programming and H100 or 101 on the select XM programming.

[lemp]

IF XM/SIRIS were to take O&A off, the would lose a few susbscribers I'd think, which would take money out of theior pockets. I would think those in charge would know all about homeless charlie.
And how many more years will Hoo Hoo even be on radio ? He already seems to have 12 weeks of vaca to go with his 4 day week. IF those now in charge are smart, they would just leave 202 alone..............:mad4:

I don't think they're really worried about losing 100 suscribers

[zosofan]

I don't think Mel will allow them to re-sign with FM even at a lower cost

It took Howard to go to bat for Bubba to allow him to do 2 separate shows, Mel is on record as saying it makes no sense to simulcast a show and he certainly won't be looking to do O&A any favors & Howard won't ask him to (like Bubba).

Its either XM at the salary Mel wants or FM full time IMO


Do you think Howard will forget how the b.b.boys got personal and went after Howard's daughter and ex-wife as well as Beth 0?

[frankw]

Do you think Howard will forget how the b.b.boys got personal and went after Howard's daughter and ex-wife as well as Beth 0?

No which is why I said he wouldn't go to bat for them to Mel like he did for Bubba (the only reason he is on both FM & Sirius)

[Ballbuster1]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/26/business/media/26radio.html?ref=business

At least they're being honest about it:
Approval of Sirius Satellite Radio (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/sirius_satellite_radio_inc/index.html?inline=nyt-org)’s buyout of rival XM Satellite Radio Holdings (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/xm-satellite-radio-holdings-inc/index.html?inline=nyt-org) means that more than 18 million subscribers will be able to receive programming from both services. The buyout’s cost was about $3.5 billion. Executives say it will mean huge cost savings that will lead to the first profits for the relatively nascent industry.

It's not a fucking merger, it's a take over.

[Bacon]

Do you think Howard will forget how the b.b.boys got personal and went after Howard's daughter and ex-wife as well as Beth 0?

Well, he did shake Anthony's hand a few months ago.

It would suck if O&A were on regular radio only...

[frankw]

Well, he did shake Anthony's hand a few months ago.

It would suck if O&A were on regular radio only...

Major difference in shaking hands when they are in the same vacinity & going to bat for them ;)

[Xero1]

Do you think Howard will forget how the b.b.boys got personal and went after Howard's daughter and ex-wife as well as Beth 0?

No but there is one thing Hoo Hoo cares about above all things.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If it's good for business and helps boost his stock options you can rest assured there will be one big happy family.

[XMScott]

Without the $120 million in merger costs this year XM would have broken even:

"...XM Satellite Radio posted a net loss of $120 million in the second quarter of the year. That compares with a net loss of $176 million in the same period a year ago.

The latest number was better than many Wall Street analysts predicted.

Revenue rose 15% to $318 million in the quarter.

The company added 322,000 subscribers in the second quarter, a 3% increase compared to Q1. The satcaster now has has 9,653,000 subscribers; its churn rate fell from 1.84% to 1.67% in the quarter."

[zosofan]

No but there is one thing Hoo Hoo cares about above all things.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If it's good for business and helps boost his stock options you can rest assured there will be one big happy family.


Completely agree. As Mel has stated, if talent can draw in subscriptions, he will pay. I think Martha and Oprah are gone. I wouldn't expect any signed contract with O & A in the near future. I'm sure they will have to sit down with not only Mel but Howard.

[DeltaPin]

At least they're being honest about it:


It's not a fucking merger, it's a take over.

Honestly, it's two drunks trying to hold each other up.

[frankw]

Without the $120 million in merger costs this year XM would have broken even:


They lost 120 million from April-June alone not in the last 16 months

[Xero1]

Completely agree. As Mel has stated, if talent can draw in subscriptions, he will pay. I think Martha and Oprah are gone. I wouldn't expect any signed contract with O & A in the near future. I'm sure they will have to sit down with not only Mel but Howard.

Martha and Oprah both have guaranteed contract. They get paid whether their channel is on the line-up or not. It doesn't make sense to pay them not to be there. If anything having the names alone strengthens the brand if it doesn't bring in many subs.

[kloraferm]

Oh well, fun while it lasted.

[EarthCrisis]

I love how so many people on here are "in the know" about what's happening when the bbboys may not even know what the deal/fate is, and it's not like they'd tell any of us yet.

[zosofan]

Martha and Oprah both have guaranteed contract. They get paid whether their channel is on the line-up or not. It doesn't make sense to pay them not to be there. If anything having the names alone strengthens the brand if it doesn't bring in many subs.


Guaranteed contracts? Didn't know that. Wonder if there is a buyout clause. I can't imagine either bring in enough subscriptions that would warrant their current salaries. I'm sure the latest satellite ratings would support that they are a waste of monies that could be used elsewhere.

[del griffith]

where is boardroom jimmie when we truly need him???????????????????

[LastDeadMouse]

Do you think Howard will forget how the b.b.boys got personal and went after Howard's daughter and ex-wife as well as Beth 0?

People bring this up all the time. It's hypocritical garbage. Howard got personal countless times with various celebs that he attacked and harassed, and it was funny. However, once he's on the receiving end, "boo hoo hoo, they got PERSONAL!"

[doUsmellthat]

My thoughts on the Merger

The boys will be fired from the newly merged company very shortly.

But so what...at least the boys are still on a couple terrestrial radio stations and can be downloaded on the web

[Xero1]

Guaranteed contracts? Didn't know that. Wonder if there is a buyout clause. I can't imagine either bring in enough subscriptions that would warrant their current salaries. I'm sure the latest satellite ratings would support that they are a waste of monies that could be used elsewhere.

They don't bring in subscriptions. But their names strengthen the brand and provide cheap advertising. If anything they should ask them to push more on their syndicated television shows.

From my understanding at least on Oprah's end her contract is 100% guaranteed. They can buy her out by paying her the full amount but even if they don't draw in huge subs it makes more sense to leave them up there.

The contracts also have stock options so in the long run the new management needs to tell them to push the medium to help their own bottom line.

[zosofan]

People bring this up all the time. It's hypocritical garbage. Howard got personal countless times with various celebs that he attacked and harassed, and it was funny. However, once he's on the receiving end, "boo hoo hoo, they got PERSONAL!"


True. But the difference being Howard never had to coexist with the people he made fun of. The boys made fun of Howard's daughter and others. I think Howard went after the person, not their kids or spouses. Howard forgave Bubba for attacking him but Bubba didn't attack his family.

Hopefully, it all works out and Mel does the right thing.

[frankw]

True. But the difference being Howard never had to coexist with the people he made fun of. The boys made fun of Howard's daughter and others. I think Howard went after the person, not their kids or spouses. Howard forgave Bubba for attacking him but Bubba didn't attack his family.

Hopefully, it all works out and Mel does the right thing.

The co-exist point aside, the people Howard went after were pissed & held grudges, Howard was pissed & held a grudge
I don't see how that is hypocritical
There are consequences to deal with when you go on the attack & Howard had issues with celebs, reporters, FCC, radio executives he attacked & O&A have to deal with Howard
Nothing hypocrital about this (although Howard can be as hypocritical as anyone)

[UsedLadBag]

Blah Blah Blah Blah.

[Debbie1125]

XM will be very reluctant to get rid of Oprah. They don't want to piss off the minorities even if most of them don't have satellite radio. Look at one of the conditions of the merger, setting aside channels for minority and educational programming.

XM, much like when the boys were on in Philadelphia, never did a very good job of promoting their show. I look at the Best Buy circular ads for XM and it always mentions Oprah and MLB, but never O&A.

As much as I detest Howard Stern at least Sirius ads promoted his show. Then again Mel probably helped with that.

[bradolson]

I had XM long before O&A (one of the first 50,000 subs XM ever had) and I'll have XM should O&A leave.

In reality, I think O&A and R&F are safe, but they'll probably have to take less money for their next contracts. But so will Stern and a lot of other "exclusive" talent now that there is no bidding war between the two companies for these kinds of deals. Whether they want to take less money or ride off into the sunset is their decision though. Mel is good at selling ads, so maybe he finds a way to make both shows more profitable by getting better advertisers to pay for spots instead of the awful places that advertise on 202 now.

[Hog's Big Ben]

They aren't rosy glasses, their green.

For starters there aren't interoperable radios out there now. Both companies didn't heavily invest in the R&D because of the uncertainty of the merger. There might be a 3rd party developed one out there but certainly none from XM or Sirius.

What R&D? The technology already exists. Putting it in one box is trivial. Both companies already spent $25 million developing interoperable radios.

So do you honestly think they will not try and entice current subs to upgrade? They will just sit on potential positive cash in favor of waiting for interoperable radios and ala carte pricing?

...

Personally I can't stand Mel or his ethics BUT he is not stupid when it comes to making money. He knows right now there is potential for revenue growth within the current base and the easiest way to expand that base for the time being is to offer highly desired programming in the select service tier.

I stand by my prediction that you will see 202 on the select XM programming and H100 or 101 on the select XM programming.

You have good points, but I'm a cynical fuck. Not once has anyone in an official capacity at either company said Howard would be available on current XM radios. They've certainly known 100% whether he will or will not be available, so if he will be, why not mention it? He's allegedly the savior of satellite radio. Why hasn't it been made perfectly clear that the 9+ million current XM subs will have access to Mighty Howard? Sometimes there's more information in what they don't say than there is in the bullshit they do say. And again, that $6 price for his channels makes no sense. There's no circumstance where anyone would choose him at that cost!

[Life Hack]

So when do we get a YMB show?

[nylo]

I've been listening to da boys for years. before XM. I don't think there will be
much of a change, XM was just waiting for the merger to finish. They would be fools not to keep them because they will lose tons of subscribers much like when they "suspended" them. I'm sure they won't be that fucking stupid again...but hey you never know






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[Xero1]

What R&D? The technology already exists. Putting it in one box is trivial. Both companies already spent $25 million developing interoperable radios.



You have good points, but I'm a cynical fuck. Not once has anyone in an official capacity at either company said Howard would be available on current XM radios. They've certainly known 100% whether he will or will not be available, so if he will be, why not mention it? He's allegedly the savior of satellite radio. Why hasn't it been made perfectly clear that the 9+ million current XM subs will have access to Mighty Howard? Sometimes there's more information in what they don't say than there is in the bullshit they do say. And again, that $6 price for his channels makes no sense. There's no circumstance where anyone would choose him at that cost!

The technology exists but it hasn't been manufactured. The earliest you will see an interoperable radio is 4Q in time for the holiday shopping.

The Ala Carte pricing is just an ego stroke for Kevin Martin. They only put it into play to appease him. The company doesn't want people to use ala carte, hence why it would cost more to get certain packages than just paying the $12.95

This is why he is at $6 to deter people from going ala carte. Just keep what you have now and if you aren't happy with that get shitty 50 channels of music or just pay the extra $4 and get the select programming.

Nobody has said anything officially on what is and isn't on the package for a good reason. Do you think the FCC would smile kindly if they announced they were putting people like O&A, Stern and Bubba into potentially larger audiences? The FCC hates all of them with a passion. Not to mention the puppets of the religious right.

They carefully worded the response in their conference call "...the select package will carry flagship programming..."

Like him or not Stern is a Sirius flagship program. Likewise for XM despite their lack of promotion O&A are flagship programming.

XM subscribers are not going to pay an extra $4 for Martha Stewart. Likewise Sirius subscribers aren't going to pay an extra $4 for Oprah. You need to put something there to entice people.

If you look at your billing online you will already notice that your plan says XM everything or Sirius everything. They are going to move this select packaging pretty quickly.

[LastDeadMouse]

The co-exist point aside, the people Howard went after were pissed & held grudges, Howard was pissed & held a grudge
I don't see how that is hypocritical
There are consequences to deal with when you go on the attack & Howard had issues with celebs, reporters, FCC, radio executives he attacked & O&A have to deal with Howard
Nothing hypocrital about this (although Howard can be as hypocritical as anyone)

He can dish it but he can't take it. In my book, that's hypocrisy.

[frankw]

He can dish it but he can't take it. In my book, that's hypocrisy.


Well your book isn't a dictionary thats for sure ;)

He is a hypocrite in several ways (a lot of people are) with things like Freedom Of Speech, Power Plays, etc., but this was a stretch

[CTOAFan]

Something tells me that they won't outright fire them but if they don't want the boys back they'll give them the FM or XM ultimatum.

[kevtv]

XM is a business and their first order of business after this merger will not, well, should not be to get rid of a show that has a few hundred listeners (perhaps more tha.....). They want to keep the listeners they have and attract new ones; slashing unique program will not get the job done.

[frankw]

XM is a business and their first order of business after this merger will not, well, should not be to get rid of a show that has a few hundred listeners (perhaps more tha.....). They want to keep the listeners they have and attract new ones; slashing unique program will not get the job done.

Its nothimg to do with "getting rid of" but the contract is up and its a negotiation with the FM factor included in.
It's not "O&A have no listeners" but how much will it cost in relation to how important the channel is and if Mel wants them to be on FM (which he said he doesn't) once that contract ends in 2009

[SuperShawn]

My thoughts on the Merger

The boys will be fired from the newly merged company very shortly.

But so what...at least the boys are still on a couple terrestrial radio stations and can be downloaded on the web

Nah, I think they'll just not renew the contract. They'll keep them around to keep "us" around for the next few months until they get the final channels list/pricing/etc sorted out. Why not, they would have to pay them either way.

Mel hates those guys. Firing them always gets them (somehow) "good" publicity (for the most part). Not renewing their contract and claiming "ratings" or such looks like more of a b!tch slap. He knows they will wear getting fired as a badge of honor. He won't "give" them that.

[CJJames]

From dcrtv today:

>>If the soon-to-be-merged SiriusXM wants to show that it's seriously going to "show the love" for its combined subscriber base, the first thing new CEO of the expanded firm, Mel Karmazin (right), should to is to take a batch of Sirius's most-popular channels - Howard Stern, NPR, NFL - and make them immediately available to XM subscribers on the XM platform at no extra charge. And ditto with XM's most-popular channels - Oprah, MLB, O&A - to Sirius subs on the Sirius platform. Do it from "day one" of the new married company. Since the two satrad systems are technically incompatible, it could be quite a while before XMers get Sirius stuff, and vice versa, via new receivers. Mel, this would be a great way to get XM and Sirius subscribers "feeling good" before the receiver, programming, and billing hassles that will undoubtedly be coming with the new SiriusXM, or whatever it'll be called. <<

[Rackrunner]

From dcrtv today:

>>If the soon-to-be-merged SiriusXM wants to show that it's seriously going to "show the love" for its combined subscriber base, the first thing new CEO of the expanded firm, Mel Karmazin (right), should to is to take a batch of Sirius's most-popular channels - Howard Stern, NPR, NFL - and make them immediately available to XM subscribers on the XM platform at no extra charge. And ditto with XM's most-popular channels - Oprah, MLB, O&A - to Sirius subs on the Sirius platform. Do it from "day one" of the new married company. Since the two satrad systems are technically incompatible, it could be quite a while before XMers get Sirius stuff, and vice versa, via new receivers. Mel, this would be a great way to get XM and Sirius subscribers "feeling good" before the receiver, programming, and billing hassles that will undoubtedly be coming with the new SiriusXM, or whatever it'll be called. <<Pardon me for being kind of naive, but I don't think getting programming from one service onto the other will be that hard at all. Let me offer this possible scenario: Sirius subber wants O+A but does not have "interoperable radio". Both Sirius and XM revamp their current channels opening up a few spots on each platform. Sirius receives the show via some type of company XM sub, then rebroadcasts it on one of the now available channels. The only problem is that it would be a few more seconds of delay, but the audio could be heard on the other unit. Since it's technically one company, there shouldn't be an issue with that.

[krisko]

Blah Blah Blah Blah.

hahah

this is the only thing in this thread i agree with.

:D

[Hog's Big Ben]

Pardon me for being kind of naive, but I don't think getting programming from one service onto the other will be that hard at all. Let me offer this possible scenario: Sirius subber wants O+A but does not have "interoperable radio". Both Sirius and XM revamp their current channels opening up a few spots on each platform. Sirius receives the show via some type of company XM sub, then rebroadcasts it on one of the now available channels.


They have to "revamp" the lineup anyway. One, to make room for the 11 "Select" channels that each company will be broadcasting from the other's lineup...and two, to make room for the minority programming that was part of the merger deal.

Since it's obvious we're going to be losing some channels anyway, dump them Monday morning and toss Howard and whatever else Sirius has on some XM channels and put O&A, Bob Dylan, Tom Petty and the Coldplay channel on Sirius. Then when they get pulled for the finalized lineup, there will be an interest already built up among the consumers.

Howard can crow that he's got 9 million more sets of ears listening and everyone can see if the grass really is greener.

This makes way too much sense for them to do it, though.

[loganfield]

True. But the difference being Howard never had to coexist with the people he made fun of. The boys made fun of Howard's daughter and others. I think Howard went after the person, not their kids or spouses. Howard forgave Bubba for attacking him but Bubba didn't attack his family.

Hopefully, it all works out and Mel does the right thing.

Respectfully, you're full of shit....he went after Kathy Lee's Kids, Rosie's kids, his bosses kids, his competition's kids, Spielburg's kids, Cruise's kids, I could go on and on. I'm a former zombie and believe me when I say that he's no fucking saint. Fuck him.

[wetandstickyjim]

Think I'll just watch Oprah.

Lingggger Loganaaah!

[Mr. Krinkle]

Remember Howard is retiring in 2 years so satellite radio will need popular shows to keep interest. Oprah and Martha Stewart won't keep people subscribing to satellite like O&A will.
I'm looking forward to hearing their show again.

[SaltyDelights]

Two points regarding O&A's final days with XM:

1. I have a hunch that Ron and Fez will also leave XM and will move to middays on WXRK. It might be wishful thinking, but I think AFRO will survive.

2. If XM has no intention of picking up O&A's final year, they will not get to do an F-U show. There will simply be something else on 202 that day or 202 will be removed altogether.

Since the merger is now final, how funny would it be if this happened on Monday?

[shimrra]

The Sirius-XM Merger was finally approved by the FCC today following a 3-2 vote by the commission. The final and deciding vote only came after both parties agreed to pay a $19.7 million fine for violating FCC regulations. After 16 months of MTV-esque "drama" and gnashing of teeth, the $3.6 billion merger means that subscribers of both services will now get the best of both worlds.

Formal Release
Sirius Satellite Radio Inc.'s $3.3 billion buyout of XM

Federal regulators formally approved the merger of the nation's only two satellite radio operators Friday.

"I think it's going to be, in the end, a good thing for consumers and be in the public interest," Federal Communications Commission Chairman Kevin Martin told The Associated Press. "Consumers will enjoy a variety of programming at reduced prices and more diversified programming choices."

Subscribers will not have to buy new radios to receive a mix of programming from both services, according to the companies. But if they want to pursue a special pay-per-channel a la carte option, they will need new sets.

The FCC voted 3-2 to approve the buyout, with the tiebreaker coming Friday night from Republican commissioner Deborah Taylor Tate.

Tate had insisted that the companies settle charges that they violated FCC rules before she would approve the deal. The companies agreed this week to pay $19.7 million to the U.S. Treasury for violations related to radio receivers and ground-based signal repeaters.

The long-running regulatory review was watched closely by exasperated investors anxious for a resolution as well as 18 million-plus satellite radio customers with questions about what impact the merger would have on their service.

The approval was a major blow for the land-based radio industry, which lobbied hard against the buyout. It was also opposed by consumer groups, various members of Congress and state attorneys general, all of whom argued a satellite radio merger would hurt consumers and was not in the public interest.

"They kept each other on their toes," Democratic commissioner Jonathan Adelstein said of the two companies. "I hope they keep their edge and don't become a fat and happy monopoly."

Adelstein voted against the buyout as did fellow Democrat Michael Copps. Joining Martin and Tate in approving the deal was Republican commissioner Robert McDowell.

The companies said the combination would create hundreds of millions of dollars in cost savings and lead to greater choice in programming for subscribers and flexible pricing options.

Tate released a statement Friday night praising the commission's decision to punish the companies for rules violations before acting on the merger and supporting pro-consumer conditions imposed on the deal.

Under the terms of the consent decree, XM will pay $17.5 million and Sirius will pay $2.2 million to resolve interference complaints and violations related to land-based signal repeaters the companies operate to deliver programming.

The final merger agreement did not require the combined company to include a chip in its radios that will allow customers to receive digital signals from land-based radio stations, which would have helped the land-based radio industry.

Tate, who was lobbied intensely by the industry in the final weeks, said she "could not in good conscience support a government-mandated requirement on the backs of American consumers at this time."

Martin said the agreement is nearly identical to what he circulated among other commissioners when he first recommended approval for the deal more than a month ago.

The companies first applied for permission to combine in March 2007. The Justice Department approved the deal in March of this year without conditions, saying the companies don't really compete because customers must buy equipment that is exclusive to either XM or Sirius, and subscribers rarely switch providers.

DOJ also agreed with the companies' argument that they compete with other forms of audio entertainment, including digital radio, Internet-based radio stations and even devices like Apple Inc.'s iPod.

FCC approval faced a steeper climb because the companies were prohibited from combining under terms of their licenses. The agency struggled to come up with a way to show that allowing a satellite radio monopoly was in the public interest.

The companies voluntarily agreed to a set of conditions, including a three-year price cap and an 8 percent set-aside of "full-time audio channels" for public interest and minority programming. They will also adopt an "open radio" standard that may lead to a greater variety of features in radios and greater competition among manufacturers.

Sirius and XM also have promised to include a limited "a la carte" offering that would be available within three months of the close of the deal and allow listeners to pay only for the channels they want to receive.

Link (http://siri.realpennies.com/)

[Mindslayer]

" Subscribers will not have to buy new radios to receive a mix of programming from both services, according to the companies. But if they want to pursue a special pay-per-channel a la carte option, they will need new sets. "

Huh ? So if you want programming from both companies you wont need a new radio, but if you want a la carte options you will. Unless Im missing something that doesnt make any fucking sense. Why buy a new set if you can already get a mix of both on your current radio (besides the obvious difference in payment plans, of course) ?

[XMScott]

" Subscribers will not have to buy new radios to receive a mix of programming from both services, according to the companies. But if they want to pursue a special pay-per-channel a la carte option, they will need new sets. "

Huh ? So if you want programming from both companies you wont need a new radio, but if you want a la carte options you will. Unless Im missing something that doesnt make any fucking sense. Why buy a new set if you can already get a mix of both on your current radio (besides the obvious difference in payment plans, of course) ?

I THINK with the al a carte option you can cherry pick specific channels. But with the other packages you buy channels in a package. Like you can get "The Best of Sirius" on your current radio. But cant pick which channels specifically.

I just want to know how long this all lasts. One day there will be one satellite radio........ spot. Not XM in DC and Sirius in New York.

[jackjack]

" Subscribers will not have to buy new radios to receive a mix of programming from both services, according to the companies. But if they want to pursue a special pay-per-channel a la carte option, they will need new sets. "

Huh ? So if you want programming from both companies you wont need a new radio, but if you want a la carte options you will. Unless Im missing something that doesnt make any fucking sense. Why buy a new set if you can already get a mix of both on your current radio (besides the obvious difference in payment plans, of course) ?


The way I understand it, the channel lineups will change to include some content from the other provider. There won't be any choices you can make, that's just the new lineup.
If you want to pick from both yourself, you'll need a new radio that can receive both protocols.

[frankw]

The way I understand it, the channel lineups will change to include some content from the other provider. There won't be any choices you can make, that's just the new lineup.
If you want to pick from both yourself, you'll need a new radio that can receive both protocols.


Thats the way I see it too

[Mindslayer]

Ah, ok, that makes sense. Thanks.

[Tryaluckystrike]

Respectfully, you're full of shit....he went after Kathy Lee's Kids, Rosie's kids, his bosses kids, his competition's kids, Spielburg's kids, Cruise's kids, I could go on and on. I'm a former zombie and believe me when I say that he's no fucking saint. Fuck him.

:clap::clap:

"I only believe in Freedom of Speech when it benefits me."
-Howard Stern, 2006 (Hannity & Colmes)

[Tryaluckystrike]

Now we'll see if Howard Stern and Mel Karmazin are smart businessmen who do the right thing, or if they're vindictive douches.

Vindictive douches are easily the favorites.

[Tryaluckystrike]

Man, just a few years ago O&A were talking so much shit about Sirius and how XM would kick there ass, and how Howard didn't matter. Now Sirius has effectively purchased XM and O&A are unsure about their contract renewal...

Hope they stay on XM, because it's better than their FM show and they're losing stations left and right. And for the love of God, let Ron and Fez stay too.

The FM show is great. Don't start that shit again!

[Tryaluckystrike]

I don't think Mel will allow them to re-sign with FM even at a lower cost

It took Howard to go to bat for Bubba to allow him to do 2 separate shows, Mel is on record as saying it makes no sense to simulcast a show and he certainly won't be looking to do O&A any favors & Howard won't ask him to (like Bubba).

Its either XM at the salary Mel wants or FM full time IMO

Again, Mel is a businessman. Keeping the CBS deal allows 5-7 promos for XM-Sirius in two of the biggest markets (NY & Boston) and any other market smart enough to keep them on board.

Why would you give up that type of advertising just because you feel the definition of "exclusive content" is compromised?

ETA: I'm a post padding douche. But I keep seeing more stuff that warrants a reply as I read through the thread from the start. Mods: Feel free to "un-ERock" my stupidity and combine it into a single post.

[frankw]

Uh-oh Lucky is back & not missing a step :action-sm


Oh & that "advertising" on FM really didn't do much for XM for 2.5 years, so I do not see Mel allowing them to do both
Offering an XM only contract I see, but most likely not at the salary O&A might want

Welcome back man

[frankw]

http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle+articleid_2439943&title=Exclusive_Revised.html

Exclusive: Revised Sirius / Xm Concessions

We have just learned of a commitment letter filed with the FCC Friday, which details all of the voluntary concessions agreed to by Sirius and Xm, in regards to the recent FCC decision.

There are some interesting items of note including a statement that the combined company did not expect to cause or see a reduction in royalty payments as a result of its new offerings, although no commitment was actually made in this regard.

Sirius has voluntarily agreed:

* To work with the commission to resolve all outstanding WCS/Interference issues by the end of 2008;
* To make available immediately, the plans and specifications for an interoperable radio available for license to equipment manufacturers; and within 9 months of the merger offer for sale an interoperable receiver in the retail aftermarket;
* Not to originate local programming or advertising through their repeater networks;
* Provide open access and not enter into any contract that would ban other technologies such as HD; and
* Reiterated its 36 month price freeze;
* Clarified its public interest set aside proposal to include not selecting a programmer to fill more than 1 such channel on each platform, as long as the demand for these channels exceeded the available supply.

Blatantly missing is any suggestion of MAP and PK that an outside oversight be made. All of these concessions are offered voluntarily rather than as a government mandate.

In the end it would appear that Ibiquity, the NAB, Chester Davenport of Georgetown Partners, Jesse Jackson of Rainbow/Pu$h, C3SR and the numerous puppets of the aforementioned groups received absolutely NOTHING in exchange for the money they threw away. In the end, the system worked and America has prevailed!

________________________________

Interesting is they called the combined company Sirius when they wrote what they volunteered to agree to

[Tryaluckystrike]

Uh-oh Lucky is back & not missing a step :action-sm


Oh & that "advertising" on FM really didn't do much for XM for 2.5 years, so I do not see Mel allowing them to do both
Offering an XM only contract I see, but most likely not at the salary O&A might want

Welcome back man

How do you know (or anybody else for that matter)? As we know from O&A's 2007 suspension, XM's accounting practices are a bit suspect ("5,000 cancellations" when exacerbated customer service reps admitted the phone lines were getting slammed; 1 million net new subs per quarter). We don't know how many subs O&A can be responsible for since XM hasn't released those numbers (and that may be proprietary information).

And what's the number one way that Howard got the number of subs he did for Sirius? Word of mouth. It's more powerful than any existing advertising vehicle, and the FM deal allows them guaranteed air time to talk about the service.

It certainly doesn't hurt to get the word on satellite out there (I'd be willing to wager that the 10-15 second promos by O or A for XM does comparable to expensive HD radio ads whose service is much more confusing). And I'd be curious to know if the call to action has paid off in the areas that O&A were pulled from terrestrial where their ratings were solid but the station managers were no nothing assfucks.

[Ballbuster1]

Interesting is they called the combined company Sirius when they wrote what they volunteered to agree to
Not at all. They are just finally being honest and calling it what it is, a take over.
Anybody who still sees this as a merger is a fool.

It may be a merger of the tech stuff but as a company, it's a take over. Nothing more.

[frankw]

Not at all. They are just finally being honest and calling it what it is, a take over.
Anybody who still sees this as a merger is a fool.

It may be a merger of the tech stuff but as a company, it's a take over. Nothing more.

BB
I agree but I haven't seen it (the combination) called "Sirius" anywhere
An interesting tidbit is how long will there still be XMSR stocks to trade?

[frankw]

How do you know (or anybody else for that matter)? As we know from O&A's 2007 suspension, XM's accounting practices are a bit suspect ("5,000 cancellations" when exacerbated customer service reps admitted the phone lines were getting slammed; 1 million net new subs per quarter). We don't know how many subs O&A can be responsible for since XM hasn't released those numbers (and that may be proprietary information).

And what's the number one way that Howard got the number of subs he did for Sirius? Word of mouth. It's more powerful than any existing advertising vehicle, and the FM deal allows them guaranteed air time to talk about the service.

It certainly doesn't hurt to get the word on satellite out there (I'd be willing to wager that the 10-15 second promos by O or A for XM does comparable to expensive HD radio ads whose service is much more confusing). And I'd be curious to know if the call to action has paid off in the areas that O&A were pulled from terrestrial where their ratings were solid but the station managers were no nothing assfucks.

Just by looking at the retail numbers for XM its easy to tell Lucky

Also Howard was "leaving" not doing both & that is a bigger deal than doing another 90 minutes. If O&A were leaving CBS in NY/Boston I'd agree it might be worth some subs but they do not have even 500k combined from those 2 stations listening now & all of them know about O&A/XM

Also the Howard thing was major news, O&A continuing to broadcast to their same fans in NY/Boston & still being on XM isn't news or a jolt to a company

[annoyinglee]

There so much speculation about the boys if their contract with be renewed or not be renewed by XM, this coming October. Now with XM Sirius merger was done by this week, I don't know what the fuck is going to happened to O&A on XM?? We will find more about the statist of O&A and R&Z, if XM will keep O&A and Ron & Fez in the next two months.

I'm giving my opinion about O&A and Ron & Fez, if XM will keep them or not. I would love to see O&A and Ron & Fez doing a podcast for their shows.

[frankw]

There so much speculation about the boys if their contract with be renewed or not be renewed by XM, this coming October. Now with XM Sirius merger was done by this week, I don't know what the fuck is going to happened to O&A on XM?? We will find more about the statist of O&A and R&Z, if XM will keep O&A and Ron & Fez in the next two months.

I'm giving my opinion about O&A and Ron & Fez, if XM will keep them or not. I would love to see O&A and Ron & Fez doing a podcast for their shows.


When does R&F's contract end?

[annoyinglee]

Hey can anyone get info about Ron & Fez's contract, when their contract is up with XM?

[Hog's Big Ben]

* To make available immediately, the plans and specifications for an interoperable radio available for license to equipment manufacturers; and within 9 months of the merger offer for sale an interoperable receiver in the retail aftermarket

That's a change from just last month when they said "Within three months of the consummation of the pending merger, the first a la carte-capable radios will be introduced in the retail after-market and the combined company will commence offering a la carte programming."

They also said, in the same letter from June 16th:

Within three months of the consummation of the pending merger, the combined company will offer customers the ability to receive the best of both Sirius and XM programming. Current XM customers will continue to receive their existing XM service, and be able to obtain select Sirius programming. Likewise, current Sirius customers will continue to receive their existing Sirius service, and be able to obtain select XM programming. This “best of” programming will be the same “best of” programming included as part of the 100 Channel A La Carte offering, and will be available at a monthly cost of $16.99.

Pricks.

[kidohio]

if its a takeover why did the fcc and sec allow it to happen?

[patbattlefield]

Pricks.

Its only going to get worse.

[annoyinglee]

Its only going to get worse.

Why is it going to get worse?? Is that your idea or opinion about what you said??

[FloridaDave]

Its only going to get worse.

This country deserves a better class of criminals....

[frankw]

USA TODAY

Sirius and XM satellite radio executives say consumers will benefit from their merger, approved Friday by the Federal Communications Commission. But for specifics, nobody's crystal ball is very clear.

They can't make sweeping changes right away: The radios used by Sirius' 8.4 million customers and XM's 9.7 million use incompatible technology.

Still, the FCC insisted on concessions for its OK on their merger. What consumers can expect:

Q: Do Sirius or XM users need new radios?

A: No. Each service still will offer its current programs. They say a radio that works with both XM and Sirius will be available within a year.

Q: What about prices?

A: The companies told the FCC they won't raise rates, including the $12.95-a-month basic subscription, for three years. (They reserved the right after the first year to pass along increases in fees they're charged for the music they broadcast.)

Also, Sirius and XM each now will offer a pared-down $9.99-a-month package of primarily music channels and another of news, sports, and talk.

Q: Will channels from both now be available?

A: Within three months, the companies will offer a $16.99-a-month bundle called "Best of Both." Buyers would get their basic service, plus some channels from the other service. They haven't said how many of those channels, or whether marquee offerings such as Sirius' Howard Stern and NFL or XM's Oprah Winfrey or baseball will be included.

Q: What about offering channels a la carte?

A: They will offer two a la carte options: For $6.99 a month, customers can pick 50 channels from Sirius or XM, but not both, from 100 that each will make available. Additional channels then can be added for 25 cents each. Or, for $14.99, customers can pick 100 channels a la carte from Sirius' and XM's "Best of Both" offerings.

The catch: You'll need a new radio. The companies say radios with a la carte software will be on sale within three months. They gave no cost.

Q: Are new non-commercial channels due?

A: Sirius and XM say they'll set aside 4% of their capacity, about six channels each, for educational and informational shows.

Q: Will we see any changes in satellite radios?

A: Within a year, Sirius and XM will license their technology and sell a chip set to electronics makers. Innovations could include models that also pick up free, over-the-air HD radio or connect to iPods.

[Hydrosludge]

I have seen this twice before. Companies that sells equipment to my boss gets bought out by a competitor. As soon as they can get away with it, quality drops and prices go up. They bankrupt the daughter company and that line goes away. I give XM 3 years max because it looks like that will be the soonest they can kill it. If ONA simulcast on a Sirius station within a year, there is hope for them.


If I hear howard on any of my units, I will cancel that sub.

[XMScott]

Can someone answer this.

Did O&A mention the merger on Friday?
Do you think they will tomorrow?

[lockjaaaaww]

Damn...

DAMN...

DAMN,DAMN!!!

[annoyinglee]

Can Anyone Get Audio for Tomorrow show if the boys mention the merger??

Please post the audio clip, if the boys mention the merger, tomorrow??

[Mindslayer]

I wouldnt be surprised if its only mentioned on air tomorrow in the vaguest of terms, as it has been for the past year and a half. Unless they know something definitive on their future already - which I doubt- then Im guessing they'll probably remain mostly mum.

[XMScott]

Well at least Lazlow talked about it. He dedicated a song to it and "speculated" it could have been the last show on XM, because of the merger.

[Arythmetics]

Can someone answer this.

Did O&A mention the merger on Friday?
Do you think they will tomorrow?

FCC didn't approve the deal until Friday night. So during Friday's show it wasn't official yet.

[XMScott]

I said this years ago. Wackbag should have its own (XM?) Satellite Radio board. That was when XM411 was going to shit. Now its a heaping pile of shit that nobody goes to.

Anyway. Here are the Concessions that Sirius/XM have agreed too:

We have just learned of a commitment letter filed with the FCC Friday, which details all of the voluntary concessions agreed to by Sirius and Xm, in regards to the recent FCC decision.

There are some interesting items of note including a statement that the combined company did not expect to cause or see a reduction in royalty payments as a result of its new offerings, although no commitment was actually made in this regard.

Sirius has voluntarily agreed:

* To work with the commission to resolve all outstanding WCS/Interference issues by the end of 2008;
* To make available immediately, the plans and specifications for an interoperable radio available for license to equipment manufacturers; and within 9 months of the merger offer for sale an interoperable receiver in the retail aftermarket;
* Not to originate local programming or advertising through their repeater networks;
* Provide open access and not enter into any contract that would ban other technologies such as HD; and
* Reiterated its 36 month price freeze;
* Clarified its public interest set aside proposal to include not selecting a programmer to fill more than 1 such channel on each platform, as long as the demand for these channels exceeded the available supply.

Blatantly missing is any suggestion of MAP and PK that an outside oversight be made. All of these concessions are offered voluntarily rather than as a government mandate.

In the end it would appear that Ibiquity, the NAB, Chester Davenport of Georgetown Partners, Jesse Jackson of Rainbow/Pu$h, C3SR and the numerous puppets of the aforementioned groups received absolutely NOTHING in exchange for the money they threw away. In the end, the system worked and America has prevailed!

http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewarticle+articleid_2439943&title=Exclusive_Revised.html

[skione]

If I hear howard on any of my units, I will cancel that sub.

I don't care if howard is available but if the boys are gone so am I.

I got an MP3 DVD in my care and can get lik 3200 songs on one disk. I have a 10 disk CD holder in my visor which equals 32,000 songs. I don't need XM for music. I like to her OnA in the better quality over FM and that's it.

No OnA, no satelite radio PERIOD!

[Hog's Big Ben]

Howard and Artie were joking this morning that the merger is just talk until Opie & Anthony can buy candy bars from their vending machines.

Yeah, sure sounds like Howard's got a vendetta, huh?

Can you doom & gloomers grow up now and get past the radio war that never was?

[Bacon]

Artie also made a joke that Robin has to date Opie, Anthony, or Jim Norton now or something like that.

[frankw]

Artie also made a joke that Robin has to date Opie, Anthony, or Jim Norton now or something like that.


No, it was that Jim Florentine might date one of them since he is no longer with Robin

Earlier Artie kidded that he knows the merger will go through when he see the boys at the Sirius vending machine (no comment from Stern)

It was an endorsment or put down, just a fast joke by Artie

Howard said he doesn't want to spend too much time discussing the merger until it actually occurs & he can broadcast to both platforms.

He kidded that he would hold a press conference with Oprah

[FellowTraveler]

I am still a bit confused as to why Oprah is still touted as the big name for XM. She does not even do a live show. Waste of fucking money.

[frankw]

I am still a bit confused as to why Oprah is still touted as the big name for XM. She does not even do a live show. Waste of fucking money.

I agrree but she is one of the most recognizable celebs there is so thats where press will focus

[skione]

We are not doom and gloomers just experienced!

[Hog's Big Ben]

I am still a bit confused as to why Oprah is still touted as the big name for XM. She does not even do a live show. Waste of fucking money.

Because she's one of the biggest names on the planet. XM bought her for the same reason Sirius bought Howard. She makes XM sound like viable legitimate entertainment instead of some niche product (which it really is).

[Bacon]

Arguing about Howard is pretty dumb at this point since it really has nothing to do with whether or not their contracts will get picked up...

[Sinn Fein]

Arguing about Howard is pretty dumb at this point since it really has nothing to do with whether or not their contracts will get picked up...

What exactly is there to argue about? He's a whiny, self-absorbed douche.

[Xero1]

I listened to the Stern clip and I noticed this.

He said he will not recognize the merger until he is officially broadcasting on XM. This leads me to believe they have discussed making him part of the Sirius select programming for XM customers.

[Mike]

I listened to the Stern clip and I noticed this.

He said he will not recognize the merger until he is officially broadcasting on XM. This leads me to believe they have discussed making him part of the Sirius select programming for XM customers.

It makes sense really. I don;t think any "TOP TALENT" will be part of the initial "sharing of stations".

The new company is going to want people to buy new receivers for the a la carte content. Howard is the biggest draw, and then the NFL. XM wont be getting either of those without a new receiver.


Business of a monopoly.

[Hog's Big Ben]

This leads me to believe they have discussed making him part of the Sirius select programming for XM customers.

Well no shit! Way to go out on a limb, Speculative Sam. The alternative is that they went 16 months and it never came up once. :D

[Bacon]

What exactly is there to argue about? He's a whiny, self-absorbed douche.

O&A whine everyday. Hopefully it gets them the job security Howard has.

[Xero1]

Well no shit! Way to go out on a limb, Speculative Sam. The alternative is that they went 16 months and it never came up once. :D

Yeah but he went on to mention Mel e-mailing him and then Artie mentions O&A twice. I think the discussions might have gone on for 16 months but it looks like it is drawing closer.

202 on Sirius and H100 on XM.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Yeah but he went on to mention Mel e-mailing him and then Artie mentions O&A twice. I think the discussions might have gone on for 16 months but it looks like it is drawing closer.

202 on Sirius and H100 on XM.


Well this is where we get to see his alleged clout with the press. Let's see if they pick up on this:

"The merger has been approved and there are 9 million XM customers that can't hear me. That's 18 million ears, Raw-bin. Hoo hoo. I invented monopoly. Park Place and Boardwalk - all me. Tell 'em, Fred!"

[Xero1]

Well this is where we get to see his alleged clout with the press. Let's see if they pick up on this:

"The merger has been approved and there are 9 million XM customers that can't hear me. That's 18 million ears, Raw-bin. Hoo hoo. I invented monopoly. Park Place and Boardwalk - all me. Tell 'em, Fred!"

Well Mel e-mailed him at 3:30 in the morning and when Hoo Hoo asked him what was happening he said he didn't know.

I think they are just getting ready for some form of media blitz to announce the select packages and get us to upgrade. Probably told all the talent not to discuss anything until it is all laid out.

Although it is pretty interesting that the day following the merger both companies changed their plans to show current subs as XM Everything or Sirius Everything. Makes me think this will be coming much sooner than the 3 months mentioned in the USA Today article.

[ctownnerd]

Although it is pretty interesting that the day following the merger both companies changed their plans to show current subs as XM Everything or Sirius Everything. Makes me think this will be coming much sooner than the 3 months mentioned in the USA Today article.

No, wrong.

At least on Sirius, it's said 'Sirius Everything' for a few months now. I can cite Sirius Blackstage posts, too, if you really want.

[XMScott]

Its officially official

Story: http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sirius-xm-merger-fcc-announcement-now-official.html

PDF from the FCC:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-284108A1.pdf

[annoyinglee]

Couple Of Question about the Merger??

1. Was Sirius in financial trouble from the beginning when Sirius sign Howard to that $500 million contract back 4 years ago??

2. If Sirius was in financial trouble, why would they merger with XM??

3. Was XM & Sirius in financial trouble before the merger was going to happen??

Couple Of Question will fans keep or cancel XM after O&A option is up

1. Are there some fans will canceled XM after O&A option is up in October??

2. Are there some fans keep XM after O&A option is up in October??


Will anyone know how fans be affected from XM not pick up O&A option in October??

I like to hear everyone opinions about the question I wrote :icon_bigg

[Xero1]

No, wrong.

At least on Sirius, it's said 'Sirius Everything' for a few months now. I can cite Sirius Blackstage posts, too, if you really want.

I will have to take your word for it. I view my XM account online more often and I know it didn't say XM Everything a couple of weeks ago.

[Rackrunner]

Well Mel e-mailed him at 3:30 in the morning and when Hoo Hoo asked him what was happening he said he didn't know.

I think they are just getting ready for some form of media blitz to announce the select packages and get us to upgrade. Probably told all the talent not to discuss anything until it is all laid out.

Although it is pretty interesting that the day following the merger both companies changed their plans to show current subs as XM Everything or Sirius Everything. Makes me think this will be coming much sooner than the 3 months mentioned in the USA Today article.If you go back and listen, He E-mailed Howard at 3:30 Saturday morning, not this morning.

[Xero1]

If you go back and listen, He E-mailed Howard at 3:30 Saturday morning, not this morning.

Yeah I didn't specify what day. My point is that I doubt any other talent received a 3AM e-mail and I also doubt they discussed "nothing" or "that nothing was going on".

Then to make a comment like he won't acknowledge it until he is heard on XM.

Just leads me to believe that something is in the works to roll out the new select program packaging fairly quickly. If they bring Hoo Hoo to XM there is a good chance O&A will be on Sirius also.

[vegasbob]

So Sirius will be cleaning house? they better leave the XM202 Alone (maybe get rid of Dave) other than that XM 202 should be untouchable.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Yeah I didn't specify what day. My point is that I doubt any other talent received a 3AM e-mail and I also doubt they discussed "nothing" or "that nothing was going on".

Then to make a comment like he won't acknowledge it until he is heard on XM.

Just leads me to believe that something is in the works to roll out the new select program packaging fairly quickly. If they bring Hoo Hoo to XM there is a good chance O&A will be on Sirius also.


Another thing helping your case is the "family friendly" tier. Mel has said that people who don't want to subsidize raunchy programming won't have to after the merger, and offers an "everything except the XL channels" option for one dollar less. If you get the family version of the "Everything XM + Sirius Select", the discount is $2, so either they're just being generous (yeah, right), or there will be at least one XL channel offered from the other company that you wouldn't get on the "family friendly" plan.

[Rackrunner]

This tier, that tier, everywhere a tier tier. It's 6 bucks more if you want Howard on XM, yet 1 dollar less if you don't. Trying to figure out this new pricing structure is gonna require some higher education and an abacus for just about everyone subscribing. :D

[Xero1]

This tier, that tier, everywhere a tier tier. It's 6 bucks more if you want Howard on XM, yet 1 dollar less if you don't. Trying to figure out this new pricing structure is gonna require some higher education and an abacus for just about everyone subscribing. :D

It's actually only $4 to add the Select Sirius tier to your current subscription. You receive a $1 credit for every XL channel you block.

The ala carte packages are made to be complicated. The company wants more people to just shell out the $16.99 and avoid the hassle.

[FloridaDave]

Yeah I didn't specify what day. My point is that I doubt any other talent received a 3AM e-mail and I also doubt they discussed "nothing" or "that nothing was going on".

Then to make a comment like he won't acknowledge it until he is heard on XM.

Just leads me to believe that something is in the works to roll out the new select program packaging fairly quickly. If they bring Hoo Hoo to XM there is a good chance O&A will be on Sirius also.

... Why are people even pretending that anything on XM will even exist by the time this "Merger" is over? This isn't a merger, its more like "The Accused" with XM being thrown on a pinball machine.

Its like a fucking deathwatch (see clock above) and I'm sure Howie is loving it.

So you'll excuse me but i have to go flush my XM, buy a Sirus and fuck my mother.

[Tryaluckystrike]

When O&A are gone, so is my piece of shit Inno and any agreement I have with satellite radio. I hope selling it on eBay can get me enough money for a few Whoppers!

I hope the first XMer fired is the robotic cocksucker that keeps infiltrating the broadcast during my commute.

[Situps5150]

I hope the first XMer fired is the robotic cocksucker that keeps infiltrating the broadcast during my commute.


I concur. That fucker cant even say complete words, except "Saturday", he seems to say that alot.

[RolfNetherlands]

Care. Now XM and Sirius will be bankrupt in 2 years, instead of 1 year.

[distortion9]

its more like "The Accused" with XM being thrown on a pinball machine.



:clap:

[kloraferm]

Bye bye

[OhioPest]

My question being will XM radio online player still be available and if so will it still say "HIGH VOLTAGE XL" XM Satellite Radio 2005?
At least it doesn't say NHL Center Ice anymore. They must have fixed it.

[zosofan]

Just heard that Mel Karmazin will be on Howard's show tomorrow morning (Wednesday) to answer questions about the merger. Should be interesting. Hopefully, he speaks to the future of the bboys and Sirius/XM programming.

[MilitantRabbit]

Thankfully, as per the press release, the first plans don't go into effect until fall.

[Maddog62]

Maybe a good sign for the boys.

SIRIUS XM Radio broadcasts more than 300 channels of programming, including exclusive radio offerings from Howard Stern, Oprah, Opie & Anthony and Martha Stewart, among others. SIRIUS XM Radio will offer these expanded options to consumers through arrangements with the world’s leading automakers and its relationships with nationwide retailers.

From the Merger update on XM online. The boys being featured as content that will be on both is a good sign that Mel needs OnA to stay........

http://xmradio.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=press_releases&item=1648

[MilitantRabbit]

... exclusive radio offerings from Howard Stern, Oprah, Opie & Anthony and Martha Stewart, among others...
I'm sure Mel had PR separate them with Oprah as a precautionary measure.
I doubt they give a crap. They're millionaires.

[Maddog62]

I'm sure Mel had PR separate them with Oprah as a precautionary measure.
I doubt they give a crap. They're millionaires.


I think its telling us the OnA fans to stick with Sirius XM because your not going to be able to hear them anywhere else. Just being a speculative ass in optimism..... I need the contract to be signed I live 3000 miles from KRock. If I have to I will smash all my radios again. Bring on the Rage Against the Machine music.

[XMScott]

Well, now after over 500 days, we finally know. The new name of the combined Sirius and XM will be: Sirius XM Radio Inc.


Ewww

[OhioPest]

Ewww
It could have been worse... Xerius, SeriuM or SeXM, I'm just sayin' is all.

[jsc315]

here is a little info on the merger. Its not much but its a lil bit of something new.

Sirius, XM Complete Merger

Well, it's official: Sirius and XM satellite radio have finally tied the knot, ending speculation by creating a single entity known as Sirius XM Radio, Inc. that represents all of the country's satellite radio programming.

"I am delighted to announce the completion of this exciting merger between SIRIUS and XM," stated the new Sirius XM CEO Mel Karmazin, formerly the CEO of Sirius. "We have worked diligently to close this transaction and we look forward to integrating our best-in-class management teams and operations so we can begin delivering on our promise of more choices and lower prices for subscribers."

As part of the deal, XM shareholders will receive 4.6 shares of stock in the new company for every share of XM stock they hold, putting the purchase price at around $2.76 billion given stock prices at the close of trading on Monday. Karmazin says the new company will benefit both shareholders and existing customers. "Combined, SIRIUS XM Radio will deliver superior value to our shareholders. By offering more compelling packages and the best content in audio entertainment, we are well positioned for increased subscriber growth."

Here's what the 18.5 million subscribers to the new combined service can expect. First, they'll be able to pick and choose programming on a channel-by-channel basis, which hasn't been possible on either service before. However, XM spokesperson Chance Patterson told me last summer that a la carte channel subscriptions will require new radios. (As promised, subscribers can keep their existing equipment and programming package if they don't want this and other new features.)

Subscribers to both former services will be offered a "Best of Both" service that will cost about $7 per month, given previously suggested pricing details (each separate service previously cost $13 a month). Various music- or sports-oriented packages will become available in the fall, as well as premium packages that offer all of one service's programming plus a selection from the other.

Antitrust concerns had plagued the proposed merger, but apparently, other digital music distribution systems were significant enough that even a combined XM/Sirius would continue to face competition. As a result, the FCC approved the merger last week. My hunch: someone took one look at streaming radio on an iPhone and the deal was done.
http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/07/sirius-xm-compl.html

[CJJames]

The ala carte packages are made to be complicated. The company wants more people to just shell out the $16.99 and avoid the hassle.

Is it $16.99 per radio for everything on XM and Sirius?

[Xero1]

Is it $16.99 per radio for everything on XM and Sirius?

No it's not possible to broadcast everything from both service with one signal. You would need a radio that could pick up both signals in order to receive everything.

The $16.99 references the Everything XM with Select Sirius package for current XM receivers or the Everything Sirius with Select XM package for current Sirius receivers. The select package line-ups have not been definitively announced but their press releases mentioned O&A, Stern, Oprah and Martha Stewart.

This is what they want, they want the current subscribers to upgrade. From PRN...

"One of the most exciting benefits of this transaction is the ability to offer subscribers the option of expanding their subscriptions to include the Best of Both services. Given the respective popularity of exclusive programming on both SIRIUS and XM, we expect many subscribers will upgrade their current subscription," said Karmazin.

"The upside potential for both consumers and shareholders is huge. Consumers have the ease of adding premier programming without purchasing a new device. For shareholders, this kind of organic growth is a key part of the company's future and the success we expect to see," said Karmazin.

I imagine tomorrow we will hear from Mel on what that tier contains and when it will be launched.

FWIW I think they should make that package free for 1 month for current subscribers to entice them to purchasing it.

[askewcore]

If they would let me pick which Sirius channels I wanted (like give me 10 or something) and let me keep all my XM channels I would cough up 16.99/month. I would only want a select couple of music channels from Sirius, other than that they have nothing else I'm interested it. NFL on the radio stinks, and I dont care about Hoo Hoo.

FWIW I think they should make that package free for 1 month for current subscribers to entice them to purchasing it.

Thats a real good idea, but we all know how Mel Karmazzy feels about free shit.

[CJJames]

No it's not possible to broadcast everything from both service with one signal. You would need a radio that could pick up both signals in order to receive everything.

So, there is no pricing plan that has been proposed that allows a subscriber to purchase all of the channels from both companies (or rather, those channels that are not discontinued due to duplication of production costs) because there currently is no radio that can carry both platforms. However, I believe I read that a promise was made that such a radio would be available within three months. Is that correct?

[J D]

Does this mean that SIRI is going to go up anytime soon?

[Xero1]

So, there is no pricing plan that has been proposed that allows a subscriber to purchase all of the channels from both companies (or rather, those channels that are not discontinued due to duplication of production costs) because there currently is no radio that can carry both platforms. However, I believe I read that a promise was made that such a radio would be available within three months. Is that correct?

Yes you would need what's known as an interoperable radio. It is effectively a radio that picks up both signals using a single antenna. The plan would likely cost more than $16.99 but less than it currently does to have an XM and Sirius radio with two subs.

[Xero1]

Does this mean that SIRI is going to go up anytime soon?

It's a long stock. They had to issue more shares for debt restructuring which diluted the stock. If you want to buy long now is the time but if you are looking for something you can short you probably should avoid it.

[J D]

It's a long stock. They had to issue more shares for debt restructuring which diluted the stock. If you want to buy long now is the time but if you are looking for something you can short you probably should avoid it.

oh ok

I have no clue how the stock market works. I bought 1K worth of Sirius shares back in 2004 before O&A said they're going to XM when it was around 3 dollars a share. Then Stern signed up with Sirius and it went up to like 10 dollars that same day - and I didn't sell it. So now I'm hoping to get my money back one of these days.

[Hog's Big Ben]

No it's not possible to broadcast everything from both service with one signal. You would need a radio that could pick up both signals in order to receive everything.

The $16.99 references the Everything XM with Select Sirius package for current XM receivers or the Everything Sirius with Select XM package for current Sirius receivers. The select package line-ups have not been definitively announced but their press releases mentioned O&A, Stern, Oprah and Martha Stewart.


Bubba just spent about 10 minutes on the most ill-informed rant about what programming will be available with the new plans, including the "best of the other service" package. The dumb cunt doesn't realize it's only a dozen or so channels. He of course expects "The Howard Franchises" to make it along with ALL the sports :haha7::haha7::haha7: ...and told a listener that the "news, sports and talk" package would let a caller hear baseball on Sirius (that package doesn't include any play by play - just the sports talk channels).

Good job, lapdog. Sucker those hillbillies...

[Xero1]

Bubba just spent about 10 minutes on the most ill-informed rant about what programming will be available with the new plans, including the "best of the other service" package. The dumb cunt doesn't realize it's only a dozen or so channels. He of course expects "The Howard Franchises" to make it along with ALL the sports :haha7::haha7::haha7: ...and told a listener that the "news, sports and talk" package would let a caller hear baseball on Sirius (that package doesn't include any play by play - just the sports talk channels).

Good job, lapdog. Sucker those hillbillies...

What a moron.

Wait until tomorrow when Mel explains that Sirius listeners won't hear actual MLB games and XM listeners won't hear NFL games.

I doubt they put both Stern channels on the package.

[Rackrunner]

What a moron.

Wait until tomorrow when Mel explains that Sirius listeners won't hear actual MLB games and XM listeners won't hear NFL games.

I doubt they put both Stern channels on the package.I agree with everything except your last sentence. 100+101 are by far the 2 most popular channels on Sirius. They both will be available immediately.

[PuffyVag]

I haven't read this entire thread, so apologies if it's here already. From FMQB...

In Brief - July 29, 2008

July 29, 2008

Rest easy O&A fans, the satellite
future looks bright.

It looks like Mel Karmazin will be making rounds tomorrow on some of the Sirius XM Radio talk shows. Expect him to show up on Howard Stern's show as his first stop. Afterwards, fans of Opie & Anthony will be glad to know that the combined satcaster CEO will be appearing on their program during the 9am hour. With the duo's contract in limbo and approaching its renewal date, O&A fans should finally get the answers they have been looking for ever since the merger was announced.

http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=813837

Regards -

The Silent Bob of Wackbag

[Xero1]

I agree with everything except your last sentence. 100+101 are by far the 2 most popular channels on Sirius. They both will be available immediately.

I can see that as a possibility. My feeling though is with limited Select Packaging slots (and they will keep them limited) they would want as many branded channels as possible. I could see Howard 101. You get all the "talent" on one channel.

They want that package to help push retail and upgrade current subs. I don't think having two Stern stations is make or break for them on that front. They would much rather add another brand like Foxxhole or Shade 45 and slap another overpaid celebrity face on the display that might have missed the cut if they had to give another slot to Hoo Hoo.

[Rackrunner]

You gotta remember, a lot of channels will be consolidated so there will be a lighter number of channels to choose from. Both have similar music stations, the news stations are essentially a wash, so most of the "select" stuff will be personality driven. I don't think Eminem has uttered a word on Shade45 since the first day so I would think maybe not available. However Jason Ellis does a talk type show on Faction daily so I can see that making the jump. The 2 stations from Stern absolutely are essential. Morning drive on both coasts are the reason. Putting just 101 on makes the only Howard show at 9:00 EST. Never gonna fly.

[Garyisajoke]

You gotta remember, a lot of channels will be consolidated so there will be a lighter number of channels to choose from. Both have similar music stations, the news stations are essentially a wash, so most of the "select" stuff will be personality driven. I don't think Eminem has uttered a word on Shade45 since the first day so I would think maybe not available. However Jason Ellis does a talk type show on Faction daily so I can see that making the jump. The 2 stations from Stern absolutely are essential. Morning drive on both coasts are the reason. Putting just 101 on makes the only Howard show at 9:00 EST. Never gonna fly.

Look on the big brain on Rackrunner.

How many alternative stations do you think there will be? They all offer the same product.

There will be redundancies.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/content/images/2007/02/09/dawn_brent_396_396x222.jpg

[Hog's Big Ben]

You gotta remember, a lot of channels will be consolidated so there will be a lighter number of channels to choose from. Both have similar music stations, the news stations are essentially a wash, so most of the "select" stuff will be personality driven. I don't think Eminem has uttered a word on Shade45 since the first day so I would think maybe not available. However Jason Ellis does a talk type show on Faction daily so I can see that making the jump. The 2 stations from Stern absolutely are essential. Morning drive on both coasts are the reason. Putting just 101 on makes the only Howard show at 9:00 EST. Never gonna fly.

They will probably choose from the channels listed under "Add a channel 25¢ each". Most of the rest have a similar channel on the other service.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/XM-Post-Merger-Line-Up-3.gifhttp://www.orbitcast.com/archives/Sirius-Post-Merger-Line-Up-3.gif

[Xero1]

You gotta remember, a lot of channels will be consolidated so there will be a lighter number of channels to choose from. Both have similar music stations, the news stations are essentially a wash, so most of the "select" stuff will be personality driven. I don't think Eminem has uttered a word on Shade45 since the first day so I would think maybe not available. However Jason Ellis does a talk type show on Faction daily so I can see that making the jump. The 2 stations from Stern absolutely are essential. Morning drive on both coasts are the reason. Putting just 101 on makes the only Howard show at 9:00 EST. Never gonna fly.


How much has Oprah done on her channel? The point isn't how involved they are it's just another face to slap up there. You could slap Jason Ellis up there to be recognized by maybe 3 people or another more well known celebrity to strengthen the brand.

I agree they might have two channels of Hoo Hoo but I don't see the need. Then again Stern is the saviour of the whole medium...

[take5]

This evening during the commute home, I was dial-flipping and hit 92.3 K-Rock (NYC, O&A's home station), and thought I heard the DJ say O&A was coming on the air at 5am tomorrow. Anyone else catch that?

[Hog's Big Ben]

This evening during the commute home, I was dial-flipping and hit 92.3 K-Rock (NYC, O&A's home station), and thought I heard the DJ say O&A was coming on the air at 5am tomorrow. Anyone else catch that?

They've been doing that for a few weeks now. 1-hour worst of before and after the show.

[J D]

damn it, they're taking away "The System"

[Ballbuster1]

This evening during the commute home, I was dial-flipping and hit 92.3 K-Rock (NYC, O&A's home station), and thought I heard the DJ say O&A was coming on the air at 5am tomorrow. Anyone else catch that?

They've been doing that for a few weeks now. 1-hour worst of before and after the show.

Yup. Right on K-rock's pages: Opie & Anthony (http://923krock.com/pages/590943.php)
Mornings 5am - 10am

[Sack of Chisels]

I haven't read this entire thread, so apologies if it's here already. From FMQB...

In Brief - July 29, 2008

July 29, 2008

Rest easy O&A fans, the satellite
future looks bright.

It looks like Mel Karmazin will be making rounds tomorrow on some of the Sirius XM Radio talk shows. Expect him to show up on Howard Stern's show as his first stop. Afterwards, fans of Opie & Anthony will be glad to know that the combined satcaster CEO will be appearing on their program during the 9am hour. With the duo's contract in limbo and approaching its renewal date, O&A fans should finally get the answers they have been looking for ever since the merger was announced.

http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=813837

Regards -

The Silent Bob of Wackbag

Mel Karmazi on o&a? should be interesting.

[SaltyDelights]

I hope Mel's alter ego, "Mel Karmazy" shows up.

LING\\fkJOER~!

[Hydrosludge]

Mel Karmazi on o&a? should be interesting.

Talk about cringe radio. Oh boy, this is great

[Mindslayer]

Mel Karmazi on o&a? should be interesting.

I agree, that is certainly very interesting, and on the surface seems to bode well for the boys' future in the new company.

Anyway, I know this has probably been covered before in the thread, but can anyone give me a brief synopsis of what the boys talked about concerning the merger the past two days (if anything at all). I was away the past two days and missed the show. Thnx in advance !

[Freese]

The system is gone?! WHERE THE FUCK WILL I GET MY BUTTERY BEATS!

srsly, sirius' dance channels blow ass. litterally.

[weeniewawa]

Mel Karmazi on o&a? should be interesting.

sirius questions only


liabnshbjah lojhsbaqyb

[EarthCrisis]

Sirius' music channels are so much better. Can't wait to be hearing them.

AAAAAHHHHHHHH wtf is that in your avatar hydrosludge?

[askewcore]

The system is gone?! WHERE THE FUCK WILL I GET MY BUTTERY BEATS!

Linger Loo.

I just hope they dont fucks with my Liquid Metal.

Sirius' music channels are so much better. Can't wait to be hearing them.

Do they have a metal channel? And how does it compare to the aforementioned liquid metal?

[EarthCrisis]

Linger Loo.

I just hope they dont fucks with my Liquid Metal.

Hard Attack on Sirius is fucking great dude. except for this one jock, Jose, he's kind of annoying.

[askewcore]

except for this one jock, Jose, he's kind of annoying.

But so is :cringe: Ward Cleaver (cause, its like Leave It to Beaver, and that show is wholesome, but this guy, he's anything but..) and Coolguy is kind of annoying too. The only person I like on XMLM is Katie Brutal, and thats just cause I'd like to get up in her guts. I can deal with shitty music jocks, as long as they play good shit.

[EarthCrisis]

But so is :cringe: Ward Cleaver (cause, its like Leave It to Beaver, and that show is wholesome, but this guy, he's anything but..) and Coolguy is kind of annoying too. The only person I like on XMLM is Katie Brutal, and thats just cause I'd like to get up in her guts. I can deal with shitty music jocks, as long as they play good shit.

OH hell yeah dude. fucking Dork Cleaver pushes the whole "I just woke up and i'm still drunk" thing too far. I car crash him in my head all the time.

[XMScott]

This post should help with all merger questions

http://xmfan.com/viewtopic.php?t=93780

[Garyisajoke]

O&A and R&F's situation aside... anyone else psyched about this merger? Sirus has better music stations and NFL. That's going to be great since my piss-poor Dolphins are never on TV anymore.

[Arythmetics]

O&A and R&F's situation aside... anyone else psyched about this merger? Sirus has better music stations and NFL. That's going to be great since my piss-poor Dolphins are never on TV anymore.

Meh... if I wanted Sirius I would've subscribed to Sirius. What the merger does bring is a more financially stable company.

[lanestew]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10001299-94.html?tag=cnetfd.mt

"XM investors will receive 4.6 shares of Sirius for every XM share they currently own, and the ticker symbol will now trade under "SIRI." Sirius XM Radio will be headquartered in New York, and its wholly owned subsidiary XM Satellite Radio will remain in Washington, D.C. "

Remember when XM was kicking Sirius's ass? Now the merger looks like a buyout by them.