Water treatment / purification system

[Arc Lite]

Anybody have one of these for their homes? We just went through a demonstration and sales pitch initiated through Home Depot. (the dude ended being a total high pressure asshole when we weren't ready to purchase.)

Either way, the test results were pretty convincing and we'd like to have one for the house eventually. Just curious if anyone is using one of these things.

[NortonsHeiny]

I have well water & have a system in my crawl space attached to the tank. I have a service that comes once a year to tinker with it. With that I don't need one on the faucet.

[Sinn Fein]

We looked into one too, but the guy was reallly high-pressure also.

We have a well also. But, the water quality is outstanding. We've had it tested multiple times. Other than hardness, there are no problems.

I'd like to eventually do something.

[MrBogey]

I bought a 140$ Reverse Osmosis system that gives clean drinking water on demand. Works great and was easy to install though a bit confusing without the diagrams.

[BeerBelly]

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Heart Disease and Chlorine

Evidence and principles of science clearly show that drinking chlorinated water is the main cause of arterial plaques, which is the most serious cause of heart disease.


Chlorine attaches to arteries and looks like a foreign substance. White blood cells attack the chlorine. But since it is stuck to arteries, the white blood cells stick to the arteries. Then they do what they always do, which is remove excess calcium and fat from the blood. It accumulates to form plaques.

Supposedly eating the wrong foods creates heart disease. No way does biology get that contrasurvival by itself. Humans have been eating cholesterol and similar lipids for millions of years. And nature has had quite a bit of practice at creating hearts for half a billion years prior.

The primary cause of heart disease can be understood, but authorities are not describing it. Professional scientists would have their careers ruined for even thinking about it. Since I'm an independent scientist, I can describe the science of the subject.

A key point is that before plaques develop in arteries, white blood cells (leukocytes) stick to artery walls. The leukocytes then fill up with lipids and calcium.

Researchers don't say why leukocytes attach to arteries. A common theory is that the leukocytes attempt to heal damage, but malfunction occurs. Nature doesn't malfunction that way.

The nature of chlorine is extremely informative. Chlorine, iodine, bromine and fluorine are called halides, because they are similar. Organic halides (halides attached to carbon) are never found in nature. The reason appears to be their tendency to react with and alter other biological molecules.

Halides react by substitution. This means they replace something else on a larger molecule, and they stay attached to the molecule afterwards. This is what chlorine does while killing germs in water. It could only be expected to do the same thing inside a person's body after drinking chlorinated water. It should attach to artery walls which it comes into contact with.

Governmental laws require residual effects with chlorine, meaning it still kills bacteria when water comes out the faucet. When it is drank, it is going to react with molecules in the body. Among the first to be contacted are walls of the arteries. This means the artery walls should theoretically become chlorinated as a result of drinking chlorinated water. Much evidence shows that the results follow the theory.

Chlorine attached to artery walls would create the appearance of a foreign substance. Halides (like chlorine) are extremely antigenic. So they would cause the leukocytes to attack the arteries. Then the leukocytes would do what they normally do, which is absorb free lipids and calcium from the blood.

Calcium and lipids in the blood are supposed to be combined with carrier molecules; and if not, they are removed from the blood by white blood cells. Probably, a low percent of all calcium and lipids which enter the blood are not properly attached to carriers.

So the leukocytes which are attached to arteries fill up with those calcium and lipid molecules which are not properly attached to carriers. The result is plaque formation.

Reduced consumption of lipids and calcium diminishes the problem, because there is then less in the blood to be absorbed into the plaques. But it is a losing battle as long as leukocytes are attached to artery walls.

Evidence for this mechanism is in the fact that Europeans have less of a problem with heart disease than Americans. They ozonize their water instead of chlorinate it. Ozone does not create those problems.

External Links:

Review by Hattersley

Leukocytes - Describes details of leukocyte attachments but does not indicate why they attach.

Chlorine Damages Lungs

[buxotica]

For the whole house or just the kitchen sink? I have one under the sink and it makes a big difference. Tastes like good bottled water. If you don't want to install it yourself find a good local handyman, since Home Depot will break it off in your ass on the installation charges. On the other hand places like that will usually guaranty that the job gets done right no matter how many times someone has to come out to take care of it.

[blazin]

I have a 5 stage RO/DI unit....but I use it for my saltwater tank. You can use it for drinking water, just dont use the DI stage...it will deionize your body.

I got mine off ebay for $99 + 25 shipping. TDS is zero. It came with a drinking water stage that actually adds stuff back into the water for flavor.

Check out seller: filterdirect on ebay

[stillbornstew]

Anybody have one of these for their homes? We just went through a demonstration and sales pitch initiated through Home Depot. (the dude ended being a total high pressure asshole when we weren't ready to purchase.)

Either way, the test results were pretty convincing and we'd like to have one for the house eventually. Just curious if anyone is using one of these things.
......turn of the wrench, turn of the wrench sir.

[Arc Lite]

We were looking at a whole house unit. The dude was trying, high pressure trying to sell us an $8,000 unit. With their financing bullshit would have been $10,000. Not worried about drinking. I've been drinking distilled water for like 5 years now because I'm paranoid about the ole' kidney stones. But after seeing some of the tests and his bullshit spiel my wife is freaking about taking a shower in what was presented to us basically as shit water.

I think stew's got it right though.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Berkey (http://www.berkeyfilters.com/) I have a stainless steel travel one that filters out fluoride, as well as other crap. the water tastes good and it's easy to use on a counter top.

There are screw on filters to take the chlorine out while showering. Pretty cheap too.

[Myhairygrundle]

Funny you should bring this up....I just put in a water softener and whole house carbon filter 3 days ago. Don't spend at ton of $$$$. Went to Sears, got the water softener. Went to Home Depot, got the largest whole house filter. They both have 1" fittings, so I had to get reducers for my 3/4 line.

But total cost was about $800.00 and my time. Super soft water, no chlorine smell.

And I am using the potassium chloride pellets instead of the regular salt, so no sodium worries.

Water softener http://www.kenmorewater.com/website/productlist/home-water-softeners/3-350-soft-water.html

Filter
http://www.geappliances.com/smartwater/model_fs.htm?GXWH35F

Here are the pics.....

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[Arc Lite]

Funny you should bring this up....I just put in a water softener and whole house carbon filter 3 days ago. Don't spend at ton of $$$$. Went to Sears, got the water softener. Went to Home Depot, got the largest whole house filter. They both have 1" fittings, so I had to get reducers for my 3/4 line.

But total cost was about $800.00 and my time. Super soft water, no chlorine smell.

And I am using the potassium chloride pellets instead of the regular salt, so no sodium worries.

Water softener http://www.kenmorewater.com/website/productlist/home-water-softeners/3-350-soft-water.html

Filter
http://www.geappliances.com/smartwater/model_fs.htm?GXWH35F

Here are the pics.....

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5621/1010058ef5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9112/1010055cx3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6114/1010059rz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thanks man. I think that's pretty much exactly what we need.

[grail]

Beerbelly do you really believe that load of crap you posted. I certainly hope not. If that was true we would be more effected by the amount of salt we consume then chlorine in the water or flouride for that matter.

The only reason to have a filter or R/O system is if you have well. Well water can contain things that aren't so tasty too much iron, aluminum, sulphur (lovely smelling water btw), etc. MHG has the right idea. Otherwise save the money and don't bother.

Blazin is definetly right DI water is really bad for you.

[Nortonsmeatytit]

I was at an ATM machine last year and came upon a reverse osmosis water filtration system left in a sealed box in front of the ATM machine. Hooked that fucker up under the sink last Summer and has worked great ever since. Got to buy a new filter though next month. Big difference in water taste, much "smoother" and cleaner tasting. The unit retails for around $300

[LZMF1]

here's what i have.

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the water in the developement i live in is atrocious. hard water with shitloads of iron and all sorts of other crap in it. the 1st thing i did when we moved in last november was replaced the dishwasher due to all of the scale and iron buildup in it. i checked around and found out that the sears hardware water softeners aren't ideal for my situation in this house. i had to get the system i got and i'm completely satisfied with it.

i still refuse to drink the tap water here. i have a poland spring water cooler and use that for cooking and drinking water.

i forgot how much my system cost me but it was @ the same as the sears system.

[BCH]

My town uses water from the NYC watershed upstate. That's why my wife's home made breads are so good.

[Osprey]

You guys have some cool setups. I'm a berkey (http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com) man myself. I've had the berkey light for about 3 years and it's worked great. i haven't had to change the filters out or anything. It's definitely been worth the money for me.

[THE FEZ MAN]

Bah.... ive drank water streight out of the delaware river.. down buy philly,,, fuck it what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, bunch of fucking pussys

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Fuck that noise.

Only a person who hates themselves and their asshole would be do such a thing.

[THE FEZ MAN]

Fuck that noise.

Only a person who hates themselves and their asshole would be do such a thing.


are you kidding me? people pay good money for colon cleanses... one mouth full of that sewage water and your gona have quite a cleansing

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Thanks, but no thanks to that 'treatment'.

Had food poisoning and it kicked my ass for three days.

[Turfmower]

Fuck all that treatment I drink Jersey well water any time I drink city water it tastes like chlorine and fish piss.

[kloraferm]

I used to have one of those UV deals under the sink but it broke. Now I have a Brita attachment affixed to the faucet.