Clean, Articulate Post-Racial Candidate of CHANGE~! Plays Race Card

[Vyce]

But wait, I thought he was above this sort of thing? (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/obama-says-mcca.html)

"And I know that the temptation is to say, 'You know what? …The guy hasn’t been there that long in Washington.,' You know, 'he’s got funny name,' You know, 'we’re not sure about him,'" Obama continued. "And that’s what the Republicans, when they say, 'This isn’t about issues, it’s about personalities,' what they’re really saying is, 'We’re going to try to scare people about Barack. So we’re going to say that you know, maybe he’s got Muslim connections or we’re going to say that, you know, he hangs out with radicals or he’s not patriotic.'

Except, of course, McCain has never leveled those charges or smears against Obama. In fact, the one campaign that had definitively been caught spreading the Muslim rumor was a Democratic one. (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/12/05/clinton_campaign_volunteer_out.html)

However, nice of Barack to glibly throw aside the "hangs out with radicals" remark. I don't know, I'd kind of think "friendly associate of a guy who was convicted for attempting to MURDER people via terrorist actions and who's only stated regret is that he didn't make MORE bombs" is sort of the same thing as "hanging out with radicals", but maybe Barry knows best.

This is, of course, not the first time (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/06/AR2008080603707.html?nav%3Dhcmodule&sub=AR) Obama has tried to smear his opponent as racist just for, um, actually having the audacity to, well, run against him.

So what brought this nonsense on today, you ask?

It probably has a lot to do with the fact that, at the moment, Obama's really more in a fight against McCain's VP pick (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=29880) rather than McCain himself. I don't think Barry liked being smacked around by a girl the other evening.

And then there's the polls, showing Barack losing momentum, (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/premium_content/daily_snapshot/), McCain gaining it (http://www.gallup.com/poll/110065/Gallup-Daily-Obamas-Lead-Now-Points.aspx), and Sarah Palin, for the moment at least, polling as MORE popular than The One himself. Perhaps Democrats should continue smearing Palin as an unfit mom and her daughter a whore, it seems to be having the exact opposite effect they anticipated.

Obama must be starting to get nervous, as he's turned to the Dark Side for help against PALINMANIA. Who, you ask? Who do you think? (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/05/us/politics/05dems.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin)

Though don't put too much faith in her, Barry O. After all:

Advisers to Mrs. Clinton said that she stood ready to help the Obama-Biden ticket, but they urged the campaign not to overestimate the impact Mrs. Clinton could have,noting that she had other commitments this fall, like campaigning and raising money for Senate candidates.

[DonTheTrucker]

Its over, Johnny.

[WhiskeyWhispers]

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[CousinDave]

But wait, I thought he was above this sort of thing? (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/obama-says-mcca.html)



Except, of course, McCain has never leveled those charges or smears against Obama. In fact, the one campaign that had definitively been caught spreading the Muslim rumor was a Democratic one. (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/12/05/clinton_campaign_volunteer_out.html)

However, nice of Barack to glibly throw aside the "hangs out with radicals" remark. I don't know, I'd kind of think "friendly associate of a guy who was convicted for attempting to MURDER people via terrorist actions and who's only stated regret is that he didn't make MORE bombs" is sort of the same thing as "hanging out with radicals", but maybe Barry knows best.


Obama must be starting to get nervous, as he's turned to the Dark Side for help against PALINMANIA. Who, you ask? Who do you think? (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/05/us/politics/05dems.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin)




Ayers was never convicted, but he publicly has admitted his crimes.

McCain won this election, on the day of the Pennsylvania democrat party primary.

The media is going to continue to fuel the Obama campaign so they can bleed as much money from the Obama zombies who will continue to donate money to this pied piper that will eventually make it way to the media.

[thekidslepthere]

I'm starting to think you guys are right and agree with what you're saying about Barry, the only scary thing is I guess we have to warm up to welcome the 12-20 million "friends" McCain is hell bent on letting stay here.

If Obama wins, the Republicans will fight to block amnesty, McCain wins they're as good as in since he thinks they'll all become Republicans, you know since Lincoln did so well with getting out the black vote.

So what's worse? Seems like people who work hard and pay taxes like most of us who struggle are going to get fucked which ever way we go.

[Vyce]

Ayers was never convicted, but he publicly has admitted his crimes.

My apologies, you are correct, sir. He was never convicted, he was just a fugitive until the charges were dropped and he was never forced to face justice for his crimes.

But anyway, the point remains the same.....were I Barack, I wouldn't glibly dismiss the Ayers association in the way he did. I wouldn't have even mentioned it. Because, wow, if there's a guy who fits into the definition of "radical", it's a guy who bombed his own government.

Reminds me of that article John Murtaugh (http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0430jm.html) wrote.

During the April 16 debate between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, moderator George Stephanopoulos brought up “a gentleman named William Ayers,” who “was part of the Weather Underground in the 1970s. They bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol, and other buildings. He’s never apologized for that.” Stephanopoulos then asked Obama to explain his relationship with Ayers. Obama’s answer: “The notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.” Obama was indeed only eight in early 1970. I was only nine then, the year Ayers’s Weathermen tried to murder me.

[BloodyDiaper]

But wait, I thought he was above this sort of thing? (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/obama-says-mcca.html)

What sort of thing? He doesn't bring up race at all in your quote or in the entire story from which it is excerpted. If you are referring to the "muslim connections" bit, "muslim" is not a race so therefore the race card hasn't been played. Whoops! :action-sm



Except, of course, McCain has never leveled those charges or smears against Obama. In fact, the one campaign that had definitively been caught spreading the Muslim rumor was a Democratic one. (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/12/05/clinton_campaign_volunteer_out.html)

He didn't specifically cite the McCain campaign, he used the more general catagory "Republicans." You're not seriously going to argue no "Republicans" (a catagory which would include the right wing press, talk radio, and blogs) have repeated the meme that "Obama is a Muslim" are you?



However, nice of Barack to glibly throw aside the "hangs out with radicals" remark. I don't know, I'd kind of think "friendly associate of a guy who was convicted for attempting to MURDER people via terrorist actions and who's only stated regret is that he didn't make MORE bombs" is sort of the same thing as "hanging out with radicals", but maybe Barry knows best.

Who are you talking about here? It can't be Bill Ayers because he was never convicted of any such thing. Ayers also never wrote that he wished he had made more bombs - he claims the NY Times distorted what he wrote in his memoir (http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/clarifying-the-facts-a-letter-to-the-new-york-times-9-15-2001/).



This is, of course, not the first time (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/06/AR2008080603707.html?nav%3Dhcmodule&sub=AR) Obama has tried to smear his opponent as racist just for, um, actually having the audacity to, well, run against him.

Again, and this seems to be a pattern with you, your link doesn't support your claim. Nowhere in that story is there an example of Obama smearing "his opponent as racist." The one mention in there is that McCain's "aides" asserted that he had 'played the race card'" but there is no backup to support the assertion.

So what brought this nonsense on today, you ask?

It probably has a lot to do with the fact that, at the moment, Obama's really more in a fight against McCain's VP pick (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=29880) rather than McCain himself. I don't think Barry liked being smacked around by a girl the other evening.


Well not really - he responded to Palin yesterday and pointed out (from your link) that the race is between him and John McCain. He went after McCain again today:

Democrat Barack Obama called Republican rival John McCain's acceptance speech the final piece of an out-of-touch convention that focused on its nominee's biography instead of the struggles of the middle class.

"If you watched the Republican National Convention over the last three days, you wouldn't know that we have the highest unemployment in five years because they didn't say a thing about what is going on with the middle class," Obama told workers at a specialty glass factory.

"They spent a lot of time talking about John McCain's biography, which we all honor," the Illinois senator said. "They talked about me a lot, in less than respectful terms. What they didn't talk about is you and what you're seeing in your lives and what you're going through, or what your friends or your neighbors are going through." (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080905/ap_on_el_pr/obama&printer=1;_ylt=ApaIMr7HSkxej2FglThVxTZh24cA)

Meanwhile, the McCain campaign is busy keeping Gov. Palin away from interviews (http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/no_interviews_till_shes_ready.php).

And then there's the polls, showing Barack losing momentum, (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/premium_content/daily_snapshot/), McCain gaining it (http://www.gallup.com/poll/110065/Gallup-Daily-Obamas-Lead-Now-Points.aspx), and Sarah Palin, for the moment at least, polling as MORE popular than The One himself. Perhaps Democrats should continue smearing Palin as an unfit mom and her daughter a whore, it seems to be having the exact opposite effect they anticipated.

Wouldn't it be rather strange for McCain not to get a bounce from his convention? In fact it will be strange if he doesn't at least surpass Obama by a few points in the next few days. Palin is also more "popular" than McCain according to that poll, but people usually vote for the top of the ticket and she's only been a factor for the last week - let's see how popular she is once the novelty factor wears off and she actually has to answer questions about her record and positions on issues that matter to undecideds in swing states.

Obama must be starting to get nervous, as he's turned to the Dark Side for help against PALINMANIA. Who, you ask? Who do you think? (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/05/us/politics/05dems.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin)


After Senator Clinton's speach in Denver, Obama would be crazy not to have her or Bill campaign for him. That was the plan even before Palin was announced.


Swing-and-a-miss again Vyce ;)

[MrBogey]

Who are you talking about here? It can't be Bill Ayers because he was never convicted of any such thing.

Hold on...you're seriously going to try and split hairs and argue that Bill Ayers and the Weathermen weren't a bunch of terrorist dirtbags?

[Zona992006]

Hannity....comments on using the media to go after someone.....

What exactly are his connections to Obama? Seriously...do a little research and not on fox news..

Rubes.

[Arch Stanton]

Hannity....comments on using the media to go after someone.....

What exactly are his connections to Obama? Seriously...do a little research and not on fox news..

Rubels.

fixed

[MrBogey]

Hannity....comments on using the media to go after someone.....

What exactly are his connections to Obama? Seriously...do a little research and not on fox news..

Rubes.

So you're saying they didn't have a cordial non-business related friendship? I could believe that if they didn't hang out together back in the day.

[thekidslepthere]

do a little research and not on fox news..

I did and maybe you should too, it looks like this 501c or whatever they're called, they might be considered a smear machine by the people on the left, or maybe they are they only ones brave enough to look into Obamas connection to Ayers. They have hundreds of pages of documents about Obama and Ayers, and the Weather Underground.

Obama seems to be completely lying about his contacts with this guy, if he keeps this shit up it's going to bite him in the ass. What if photos of Obama and Ayers come out with their arms around each other like old buddies come the end of October?

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http://www.americanissuesproject.org/

[bethm1b]

Hold on...you're seriously going to try and split hairs and argue that Bill Ayers and the Weathermen weren't a bunch of terrorist dirtbags?

They were freedom fighters.