McCain speech viewership highest, Obama 2nd, Palin 3rd

[abudabit]

John McCain topped Barack Obama's week-old TV ratings record, drawing 500,000 more viewers than his Democratic opponent to watch his acceptance speech on Thursday.

Nielsen reported that Day Four of the Republican National Convention attracted 38.9 million viewers. Last week, Day Four of the Democratic National Convention set a convention record with 38.4 million viewers.

Wednesday's ratings for the Republican convention, featuring McCain's running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, fell 1.1 million short of Obama's ratings, but 6.9 million ahead of Obama's running mate, Sen. Joe Biden.

McCain did much better among Whites and men, Nielsen reported. McCain, for example, drew 17.9 million male viewers while Obama drew 16.2 million. Obama had 19.9 million female viewers compared with 19.2 million for McCain.

McCain attracted 32.2 million White viewers and Obama had 27 million. Among Blacks, Obama pulled in 7.5 million viewers while McCain had 3.1 million.

Ratings for both conventions were significantly higher than in recent years.

The ratings have not served as a reliable predictor of electoral prospects. The party with higher ratings has won six of the past 12 elections, Nielsen records show.

On top of which McCain was shown on 4 fewer networks (surprisingly BET didn't show his speech).

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/09/05/20080905conv-rating0906.html

[patbattlefield]

bahahahahahahahahahahaha

[South Jersey]

So much for Obama's "Night At The Apollo". :icon_mrgr

[Begbie]

And I thought I heard no one was going to give a shit about the RNC. I totally did not expect McCain to come anywhere close to Palin or Obama...I actually expected it to be around Biden's now somewhat embarrassing numbers of 24 million.

[EarthCrisis]

EL O EL

Let's hear the excuses for this one.

[moegolden]

EL O EL

Let's hear the excuses for this one.

NFL opener for a lead-in on NBC is a pretty fair excuse. but its still a surprise that more people saw his speech

I did love the revelations about some of the background. I realize its a liberal blog, but this is pretty funny.....

the black people from stock photos
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/5/153224/4904/749/588112

and
the Walter Reed background (the middle school, not the medical center)
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/5/111829/9917/18/587802

[Zona992006]

if this is true, perhaps they took the poll at the start of it....they should have polled how many actually made it through the first ten minutes of that snore fest...

Mccain's night at the apollo was a major let down for everyone involved.

[Arch Stanton]

if this is true, perhaps they took the poll at the start of it....they should have polled how many actually made it through the first ten minutes of that snore fest...

Mccain's night at the apollo was a major let down for everyone involved.

If this is true??? Do you read your posts before you hit submit? Believe me, if they could have it that the DNC had higher ratings, it would be out there.

He was at the Greek ruins too? I thought they struck that set. Very nice of the DNC to move it over to St PAul.

[South Jersey]

if this is true, perhaps they took the poll at the start of it....they should have polled how many actually made it through the first ten minutes of that snore fest...

Mccain's night at the apollo was a major let down for everyone involved.

:cry3::cry3::cry3::cry3::cry3::cry3::cry3:

So, does this mean we can count you in as one of the boring old man's ratings? You sound like you need a hug?:action-sm

Edit: Here's (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D930S7U81&show_article=1) some more reason to cry.

[Sam_Adams]

EL O EL

Let's hear the excuses for this one.

They will probably say that the republicans were sending out e-mails and flyers in major cities with the wrong times and TV channels listed for the upcoming Barack Obama acceptance speech during the democratic covention to confuse viewers and keep them from being able to watch the live event.

That's what they say whenever there is a fucking election.

"We was told that this poll was closed and that we couldn't vote" It's bullshit but we hear it every fucking year and there is some conspiracy to keep minorities from voting...:icon_roll

[DonTheTrucker]

I still say ratings don't mean shit but this is funny anyway. Senator Hussein Obama is falliong apart at the seams. He got upstaged by a half crippled old man that isn't even liked by his own base.

[Begbie]

if this is true, perhaps they took the poll at the start of it....they should have polled how many actually made it through the first ten minutes of that snore fest...

Mccain's night at the apollo was a major let down for everyone involved.

Nah...bad excuse...what else you got?

[ih8Uboo-boo]

Nah...bad excuse...what else you got?

Would you accept Liar, Liar, pants on fire?

[CousinDave]

Oh I so can't wait for election day.

Its going to be a humiliating defeat for the Obama people.

[FMDoug]

I still say ratings don't mean shit but this is funny anyway

Exactly. It could be that more democrats wanted to watch McCain. It could be that less republicans watched obama. It could be that Obama's speech was during the last week of summer and people were on vacation. It could be that McCain's speech was during the first week of school when more people are home to watch. It could be that more republican got neilson rating things. It could be anything. You can't equate TV ratings with polling numbers.

[patbattlefield]

bahahahahahahahahaha

[DeltaPin]

Exactly. It could be that more democrats wanted to watch McCain. It could be that less republicans watched obama. It could be that Obama's speech was during the last week of summer and people were on vacation. It could be that McCain's speech was during the first week of school when more people are home to watch. It could be that more republican got neilson rating things. It could be anything. You can't equate TV ratings with polling numbers.

Doesn't really matter who watched what. They made a big deal about Obama's having the highest ratings ever for an acceptance speech & he got beat a week later.

[BIV]

Most likely, Palin gave him the boost. After the success of her speech, people wanted to tune in to see what Mccain did.

[moegolden]

Mccain speech 10-11:15pm

foxnews 9.2 million
nbc 8.7 million
abc: 6.0 million
cbs: 5.3 million
cnn 4.8 million
msnbc 2.5 million

[lokimanahan]

:cry3::cry3::cry3::cry3::cry3::cry3::cry3:

So, does this mean we can count you in as one of the boring old man's ratings? You sound like you need a hug?:action-sm

Edit: Here's (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D930S7U81&show_article=1) some more reason to cry.

Not to piss on your fireworks, so to speak, but the answer as to why McCain got the higher ratings could be down to Democrat voters tuning in to see how fucked-up they find the whole spectacle. You might be right, but as a member of the Conservative Party here in the UK, I know that I tend to pay a lot more attention to speeches and statements that our Labour Party Prime Minister gives, because I want to see what boneheaded dipshit thing he's going to say or do next. It's the political equivalent of car crash TV: you can't stand the guy, hate his politics, but you want to see what he says so you can tear into him, chuckle at his idiocy and justify your own political position.

[patbattlefield]

bahahahahhahahahahahahahaha

[lokimanahan]

bahahahahhahahahahahahahaha

Brilliant riposte there.

[DonTheTrucker]

Not to piss on your fireworks, so to speak, but the answer as to why McCain got the higher ratings could be down to Democrat voters tuning in to see how fucked-up they find the whole spectacle. You might be right, but as a member of the Conservative Party here in the UK, I know that I tend to pay a lot more attention to speeches and statements that our Labour Party Prime Minister gives, because I want to see what boneheaded dipshit thing he's going to say or do next. It's the political equivalent of car crash TV: you can't stand the guy, hate his politics, but you want to see what he says so you can tear into him, chuckle at his idiocy and justify your own political position.

You're making a fundamental mistake. You're assuming that people are open minded and want to learn something.

[lokimanahan]

You're making a fundamental mistake. You're assuming that people are open minded and want to learn something.

Like I said, I honestly don't know the truth on this, but neither does anyone else. It could be a sign of fantastic support for McCain, but it could be something entirely different. I was actually surprised that Palin didn't have the highest ratings, simply because she seemingly came out of nowhere, few knew much about her (on either side) and people would be naturally curious to see what she was about.

[South Jersey]

Not to piss on your fireworks, so to speak, but the answer as to why McCain got the higher ratings could be down to Democrat voters tuning in to see how fucked-up they find the whole spectacle. You might be right, but as a member of the Conservative Party here in the UK, I know that I tend to pay a lot more attention to speeches and statements that our Labour Party Prime Minister gives, because I want to see what boneheaded dipshit thing he's going to say or do next. It's the political equivalent of car crash TV: you can't stand the guy, hate his politics, but you want to see what he says so you can tear into him, chuckle at his idiocy and justify your own political position.

The same could be said of Republicans tuning in to watch Obama's speech. Your excuse is baseless.:icon_roll

[lokimanahan]

The same could be said of Republicans tuning in to watch Obama's speech. Your excuse is baseless.:icon_roll

What are you talking about? 'Excuse'? Excuse for what? I just said that I don't know why the ratings were the way they were..........and neither do you. I love this assumption that anyone trying to question spin and rhetoric must be some far left, Obama-loving commie.

[Begbie]

Would you accept Liar, Liar, pants on fire?

Actually, I was hoping for a "The republicans paid off Nielsen to bump the numbers", but that'll do just fine.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I can see what Loki's talking about...personally I choose not to watch the opposition's speeches etc because, instead of it being car wreck tv that I can't turn away from, I find that it basically just enrages me and puts me into a very shitty mood.

btw, Loki said he's a member of the Conservative party...politically, I'd go out on a limb and say that that doesn't jive with Obama's pseudo-socialist stances.

[CougarHunter]

msnbc 2.5 million

Holy christ, they managed to pull in 5 times their normal numbers!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I think MSNBC's #'s are probably those who were watching just to help get their blood boiling before they went to post on Daily Kos or something like that

[lokimanahan]

I can see what Loki's talking about...personally I choose not to watch the opposition's speeches etc because, instead of it being car wreck tv that I can't turn away from, I find that it basically just enrages me and puts me into a very shitty mood.

btw, Loki said he's a member of the Conservative party...politically, I'd go out on a limb and say that that doesn't jive with Obama's pseudo-socialist stances.

Yep, I don't think that Obama should be President, but it doesn't stop me from calling parties on their bullshit and dishonest spin. Don't get me started on Obama's call for 'change'........what does that even fucking mean? Christ, I hate sound bite politics.

[CousinDave]

Yep, I don't think that Obama should be President, but it doesn't stop me from calling parties on their bullshit and dishonest spin. Don't get me started on Obama's call for 'change'........what does that even fucking mean? Christ, I hate sound bite politics.

He wants to CHANGE the country where a black man born to a single mother and a foreign dad, can go to Columbia, Harvard School of Law, buy a million dollar house, become a Senator, and possibly become the President.

Come to think of it, I want that to change as well - No Darkies for President!

[DocSavage]

The last five minutes of McCains speech I could have sworn he was possessed by Teddy Roosevelt or something...I was totally impressed...It was old school revival politics at it's very best.

[Zona992006]

DO ANY OF YOU THINK MCCAIN SPEECH WAS GOOD? Seriously.

[Myhairygrundle]

DO ANY OF YOU THINK MCCAIN SPEECH WAS GOOD? Seriously.


Yes.

[South Jersey]

DO ANY OF YOU THINK MCCAIN SPEECH WAS GOOD? Seriously.

yes

[Zona992006]

ah, then your the two....fair enough.

[CousinDave]

DO ANY OF YOU THINK MCCAIN SPEECH WAS GOOD? Seriously.


Not really, but then again giving speeches isn't why McCain is running for President.

Giving speeches is probably a good job for a community organizer.

Zona, can you just admit Obama is an amateur at best?

[Zona992006]

Not really, but then again giving speeches isn't why McCain is running for President.

Giving speeches is probably a good job for a community organizer.

Zona, can you just admit Obama is an amateur at best?

OK, he is an amateur.

Is Palin ready to be the leader of our Country? (I know its the vp but mccain is 72)

[lokimanahan]

DO ANY OF YOU THINK MCCAIN SPEECH WAS GOOD? Seriously.

Honestly? No, it was horrid. I mean, really, really bad. Douchchillingly awful. That said, I really don't believe that the ability to give 'good speech' is a terribly mportant factor in picking a President.

[CousinDave]

OK, he is an amateur.

Is Palin ready to be the leader of our Country? (I know its the vp but mccain is 72)

Okay so we have an amateur at the top of the Democrat Party ticks and a veteran on the bottom of the ticket. The guy at the top appears to be in good health and is still in his 40s.

On the Republican side you have the veteran at the top and the amateur on the bottom of the ticket, but the guy at the top is 72 years old (I think this is past the mandatory retirement age in the military, yet he'll be commander in cheif if elected)

All I can say is that at least in the case of McCain & Palin, McCain and the inner circle will have time (hopefully) to get Palin ready to take over when its time, in the case of Obama he'll be President on day 1 and as Joe Biden said, this is not a place for on the job training.

[Begbie]

ah, then your the two....fair enough.

I don't think his speech was spectacular...I think it was only slightly better than Biden's. The delivery was awful because McCain sucks at prepared speeches...and the content was so-so. In fact, I would rank them Palin, Obama, McCain, then Biden in terms of best to worst.

McCain somehow shines without a script and can fight back under pressure in a debate. Obama can't...in fact, he apparently doesn't make any sense without a script and when he is challenged. That's why I think he's done for after the debates...especially the last one...which is on foreign policy. I don't know what he's gonna say if McCain backs him into a corner. But, I'll be sure to tune in and watch the hilarity.

[CousinDave]

I don't think his speech was spectacular...I think it was only slightly better than Biden's. The delivery was awful because McCain sucks at prepared speeches...and the content was so-so. In fact, I would rank them Palin, Obama, McCain, then Biden in terms of best to worst.

McCain somehow shines without a script and can fight back under pressure in a debate. Obama can't...in fact, he apparently doesn't make any sense without a script and when he is challenged. That's why I think he's done for after the debates...especially the last one...which is on foreign policy. I don't know what he's gonna say if McCain backs him into a corner. But, I'll be sure to tune in and watch the hilarity.


Obama at the debate "uh uh um oh uh mmm change uh oh mmmm uh uh mmm hope uh uh oh mmm oh uh uh"

[moegolden]

McCain somehow shines without a script and can fight back under pressure in a debate. Obama can't...in fact, he apparently doesn't make any sense without a script and when he is challenged.

I don't deny that Obama probably is lacking in town hall personal interaction skills, but I think he will be fine in a debate. Debating Hillary was the hardest thing Obama would ever have to do in that arena, not that she's better than McCain, simply because they were in fact similar in many issues, so nearly every debate point had to be intricate. when he's up against someone from a different party, you've got to think he would do better, given the stark differences in philosophy. whether or not you agree with his philosophy, this is the conventional wisdom here.

[DonTheTrucker]

I don't deny that Obama probably is lacking in town hall personal interaction skills, but I think he will be fine in a debate. Debating Hillary was the hardest thing Obama would ever have to do in that arena, not that she's better than McCain, simply because they were in fact similar in many issues, so nearly every debate point had to be intricate. when he's up against someone from a different party, you've got to think he would do better, given the stark differences in philosophy. whether or not you agree with his philosophy, this is the conventional wisdom here.

Actually at this point the conventional wisdom is that Obama can't tie his own shoes without a cue card. McCain is an experienced politician who has spent 30 years dealing with people in personal settings. Barring any dirty tricks by the "unbiased" moderators, McCain will mop the floor with Barry O.

[Begbie]

I just recall occasions where Obama just blurts out the first thing that comes to mind when he is challenged and when he doesn't have anything prepared. If McCain can go on the offense, which I suspect he will try repeatedly, we may hear contradictions like the one Obama made regarding Pakistan when Dodd backed him into a corner in a debate. Or, saying he heard some ugly, anti-white ramblings from Wright in a prepared statement...then going on live TV and saying that if he had ever heard any ugly, racist comments...which he says he didn't, he would've left the church. Obama can be exposed.

[FMDoug]

Obama at the debate "uh uh um oh uh mmm change uh oh mmmm uh uh mmm hope uh uh oh mmm oh uh uh"

Are you going to have the same opinion right before the first debate when the republic pundits try to paint him as the next Cicero like they did with Kerry?

[CousinDave]

Are you going to have the same opinion right before the first debate when the republic pundits try to paint him as the next Cicero like they did with Kerry?


No, because the Democrat pundits and the Obama supporters have been the ones who have practically proclaimed him to be a prophet. The Republicans just have to expose him as the fraud that he is.

[ZeoVGM]

Wow, that's really telling.

Of nothing.

[thekidslepthere]

Obama at the debate "uh uh um oh uh mmm change uh oh mmmm uh uh mmm hope uh uh oh mmm oh uh uh"

Then McCain can chime in "was this question also above your pay grade?"

I know McCain will use that line from the Saddle Back thing last month and throw it in Obama's face and it will kill.

Obama fell apart in the Saddle Back discussions while McCain did really well, so well we all heard the talks that he somehow cheated.

[CousinDave]

Then McCain can chime in "was this question also above your pay grade?"

I know McCain will use that line from the Saddle Back thing last month and throw it in Obama's face and it will kill.

Obama fell apart in the Saddle Back discussions while McCain did really well, so well we all heard the talks that he somehow cheated.


They've convinced themselves that Obama is the second coming of Xenu or whatever the hell imaginary deity you believe in, so if McCain wins, he'll have to have cheated.

[South Jersey]

ah, then your the two....fair enough.

I'm not voting for a speech, I'm voting for what was in the speech. Substance sparky, that's what any voter with a IQ over ten should be looking for. Not Greek columns and a shuck and jive show with tag lines and talking points.:arrrh:

[Motor Head]

I have listened to both sides, and all they do is make promises. Now I'm no fan of Obama, and would rather take a hammer and nail and nail my dick to the table then vote for him. But I have one serious question about McCains speech...

Change is coming. He has voted with Bush so many times (90-95%) that he is now giving the battle cry to storm the castle that his party currently occupies. I'm being completly baffled by this.

He votes party lines a majority of the time, but now is going to change Washington DC. If a candidate said they were going to change things and was an actual hard nosed conservative they would have my vote in a heartbeat.

I will go this far. I hope McCain gets elected, steps down in 4 years and Palin make a run for the Oval Office. If Washington DC doesn't poison her conservatism first of course.

So is it funny that a "Maverick" is screaming to storm the castle that he helped maintain with his own actions? Explain this to me, and I will change my signature to McCain/Palin.

[Zona992006]

I'm not voting for a speech, I'm voting for what was in the speech. Substance sparky, that's what any voter with a IQ over ten should be looking for. Not Greek columns and a shuck and jive show with tag lines and talking points.:arrrh:

Exactly what substance has Palin showed you? Other than the speech she gave recently, what else have you heard her say that would convince you she is ready, sparky....so far all you have is tag lines and talking points from her. Oh ooops, didnt mean to make too much sense.

By the way, wanna guess who else had a similar Greek column thing going on at his spech?

[Southpaw]

I have listened to both sides, and all they do is make promises. Now I'm no fan of Obama, and would rather take a hammer and nail and nail my dick to the table then vote for him. But I have one serious question about McCains speech...

Change is coming. He has voted with Bush so many times (90-95%) that he is now giving the battle cry to storm the castle that his party currently occupies. I'm being completly baffled by this.

He votes party lines a majority of the time, but now is going to change Washington DC. If a candidate said they were going to change things and was an actual hard nosed conservative they would have my vote in a heartbeat.

I will go this far. I hope McCain gets elected, steps down in 4 years and Palin make a run for the Oval Office. If Washington DC doesn't poison her conservatism first of course.

So is it funny that a "Maverick" is screaming to storm the castle that he helped maintain with his own actions? Explain this to me, and I will change my signature to McCain/Palin.


It's as simple as recognizing the fact that Bush is incredibly unpopular and since McCain's RECORD is 90% in alignment with Bush he needs to do something to separate himself - in this case LIE! McCain/Palin seem to be becoming experts at it...

[Southpaw]

I'm not voting for a speech, I'm voting for what was in the speech. Substance sparky, that's what any voter with a IQ over ten should be looking for. Not Greek columns and a shuck and jive show with tag lines and talking points.:arrrh:

Republican Talking Points = Substance

Democratic Talking Points = Talking Points

Gotcha :icon_roll

[CousinDave]

Exactly what substance has Obama showed you? Other than the speech he gave recently, what else have you heard him say that would convince you he is ready, sparky....so far all you have is tag lines and talking points from him. Oh ooops, didnt mean to make too much sense.




Fixed for you Zona.