The Defending Super Bowl XLII Champion New York Giants 2008 Season Thread

[norton23]

I believe the luckiest penis in the NFL goes HANDS DOWN to Tom Brady....Let's see a brainless blonde with bad skin or a multi millionaire super model hmmmmmmmmm

[Steam]

I believe the luckiest penis in the NFL goes HANDS DOWN to Tom Brady....Let's see a brainless blonde with bad skin or a multi millionaire super model hmmmmmmmmm

Well, Romo also got Carrie Underwood. Between her and Simpson that's two of my top 10. I would probably kill myself afterwards since it really wouldn't get much better.

[Ronreddog]

Hello my fellow Giants fans! What a great victory today, they were dominate, although Eli seemed a little off today. Brandon Jacobs is fucking money, just keep giving him the football.

I am a very happy fan, seeing the defending champs at 7-1, with the best record in the NFC. Now, here comes the test, the second half, and a lot of division games ahead, including those hated Iggles next week.

GO BIG BLUE!!!

[Palerider4146]

Well they did exactly what they needed to do. Would like to hope that Manning being a little loose with the ball was just an anomaly. I'm sure it was.

BS call against Tuck, should never have been a personal foul. That was the only thing that gave the cowboys a little boost to come down field and score.

[Ronreddog]

BS call against Tuck, should never have been a personal foul. That was the only thing that gave the cowboys a little boost to come down field and score.

Totally agree, what the fuck is the NFL thinking about? The same with the NHL, who want to outlaw fighting. Are these leagues fucking for real?

The game is nothing like it was 20 years ago, hell, even 10. They need to stop with the bullshit, and let the men play fucking football again. I am all for protecting the players, such as the horsecollar and face mask penalties, but, a legitimate tackle of a QB?

[Myhairygrundle]

Good job to the Giants. Fuck Dallas in the lips. Glad they got their asses handed to them.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

BS call against Tuck, should never have been a personal foul. That was the only thing that gave the cowboys a little boost to come down field and score.
yeah I fucking hate that penalty. I understand why they have the rule (Siragusa, Gilbert Brown et al); you can't have a 400lb DT crushing your QB...but what the fuck you NEVER see that actually get called

[jagsfans]

Good job to the Giants. Fuck Dallas in the lips. Glad they got their asses handed to them.

Dallas is just falling apart. How long before TO loses his shit?

[JPetrucci23]

"Personal foul, number 91, defense. Tackling with his full body weight."



WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??! ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

we're honestly not too far away from there being a flag for just hitting the quarterback

[Steam]

we're honestly not too far away from there being a flag for just hitting the quarterback

During the Packers/Titans game Moose said something along the lines of "they try to protect the safety of the players especially the quarterbacks". What kind of shit is that? How about everyone is treated equally. Obviously, you need to worry about the late hits on the exposed QBs as well as unneeded shots to the head, but come on. Too much ticky-tacky shit gets called.

[Myhairygrundle]

Dallas is just falling apart. How long before TO loses his shit?

Hopefully soon. I fucking hate his uppity ass.

I hope he just goes crazy and has to go play for St. Louis or Detroit.


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[ceeps04]

What a complete domination. At no point during that game was I the least bit nervous. I am finally getting some props from people who during the offseason were trying to convince me that the DLine wouldn't be able to get pressure with out Stray and Osi. I tried to tell them about Kiwi and Tuck but they just laughed. God I love to say "I told you so." 7-1, Fucking Beautiful. Go Steelers tomorrow. A 2 game lead in the division would be sweet.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Thanks Pittsburgh :D

http://blog.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/2007/12/large_gieagle10.jpg
Phuck Philthy

[JPetrucci23]

booyah, Skins lose!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

ESPN Power Rankings: Week 10 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=10)


(1) Tennessee Titans
(2) New York Giants
(4) Pittsburgh Steelers
(3) Carolina Panthers
(5) Washington Redskins
(10) Philadelphia Eagles
(9) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(13) Arizona Cardinals
(12) Chicago Bears
(16) Atlanta Falcons
(19) New York Jets
(7) New England Patriots
(14) Baltimore Ravens
(6) Buffalo Bills
(18) Indianapolis Colts
(11) Green Bay Packers
(24) Miami Dolphins
(17) New Orleans Saints
(8) Dallas Cowboys
(23) Minnesota Vikings
(21) San Diego Chargers
(15) Denver Broncos
(20) Jacksonville Jaguars
(22) Cleveland Browns
(25) Houston Texans
(26) St. Louis Rams
(27) Seattle Seahawks
(29) San Francisco 49ers
(31) Cincinnati Bengals
(28) Oakland Raiders
(30) Kansas City Chiefs
(32) Detroit Lions

[Jimmy's Dignity]

No real shock here
Giants put Tyree on the IR (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3683960)

however the 'Skins are inducting Sean Taylor into their Ring of Fame at the end of the month against us (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3684105)

[JPetrucci23]

UNREAL!!!!! Tuck was fined $7,500 for the 3rd quarter hit on Brooks Bollinger!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GnOWxHveMw

That is a fucking horrible call & fine. He should appeal that shit

[ceeps04]

Bollinger jumped into his arms while he was throwing. What the fuck was Tuck going to do? Place him down nicely.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

the call was bullshit, the fine is even more bullshit. doesn't anyone in the offices have instant replay? Bollinger clearly jumps up. that would be like fining Alford for that sack against Brady in the Super Bowl. Brady jumped up, and so did Bollinger.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

just heard that he's going to appeal the fine (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3688036)

[DocSavage]

Yet...the league decided NOT to fine that hit against the Eagles LJ Smith who clearly was in an unprotected position and the dude was head hunting.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

that I'm fine with that because it happened against an Eagle...

[askewcore]

The league is really pussifying the game and its annoying. How are you supposed to not land with your full weight when you're 270 pounds and running full speed at someone?

that I'm fine with that because it happened against an Eagle...

All the dirty hits Dawkins has laid in his career evens the playing field for anything that happens to those cunts.

Love the new sig too, JD

[JPetrucci23]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3689275

Goodell finally sees the tape of the Tuck hit, and then rescinds the fine.

The NFL has rescinded a $7,500 fine levied against Giants defensive end Justin Tuck for a hit on Cowboys quarterback Brooks Bollinger on Sunday.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell saw the play for the first time Friday, the Newark Star-Ledger reported. Goodell told Ray Anderson, the NFL's executive vice president of football operations, that the fine was too high. Tuck had planned to appeal.

"Not every penalty deserves a fine, and this is one of them," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said.

Tuck was flagged for driving Bollinger into the turf in the second half. Replays show Tuck wrapping up Bollinger the moment the quarterback released the ball, then partly releasing his grasp on their way down before landing on Bollinger with his full body weight.

NFL information manager Randall Liu, quoted in Friday's New York Times, said Tuck was fined because "he unnecessarily drove the opposing quarterback to the ground."
NFC East blog

"Our job description is basically to destroy a quarterback, but you've got to pick and choose how to do it," Tuck said Thursday, according to The Times, after announcing he would appeal the fine. Tuck had 2½ of the Giants' four sacks in a 35-14 victory over Dallas.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

good to see that he realized that the league needs to be less faggy

[righty]

Let's go giants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[righty]

Fucking interception

[righty]

Motherfuckers come on giants! Let's go giants!!!!!!!!!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

fumble on the kickoff and the Giants recover. too bad they'll only be getting 3 out of it. still, i love hearing that crowd go silent.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

wow, Eli seems to be getting all the time in the world to get these passes off. where's that fierce Eagles D?

and Jacobs just knocked an Eagles defender back like 5 yards away from the pile. he is the fucking Juggernaut, bitch.

[Steam]

I knew I should have picked up Boss for this game. Oh well, I'll take the TD for the Giants. Pretty great start outside of that shitty Interception.

Keep it up boys.

[XMScott]

The Eagles had the ball for 90 seconds in the first quarter.

Thats fucking insane.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

touchdown Kevin Boss! and the Giants once again make the crowd shut the fuck up.

[EarthCrisis]

Lets see how many fucking cheesesteak heart attacks happen around 11:00 tonight!!!

[XMScott]

I knew I should have picked up Boss for this game.

I thought about it but went with Keller (see avatar) who has done nothing for me this season. Till today!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Ross nearly picked that one off. please, let McNabb throw more like that tonight.

and the Eagles are forced to punt again.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

the Giants get another gift and have to settle for 3. they can't keep doing this and hope to keep the Eagles off them.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

i think that challenge might have saved the game for the Giants. hopefully that sent the momentum back into the Giants' favor.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

that 3rd down handoff was just stupid. how do you not pass it in a situation like that?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

man, sometimes i think they're just trying to give this game away with all these mistakes.

[Steam]

For the love of christ, can't they just do something cleanly here?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

i think that's a touchdown. once any part of the ball crosses the plane in his posession, it doesn't matter if he loses control of it afterwards, it's a TD. Reid is challenging this play too and i think he's gonna lose it also.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

yes! touchdown bitch!

oh god, they sure know how to make it interesting, don't they?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

fuck...

they need to eat up the clock now. give the ball to Jacobs and Bradshaw and pound out some yards.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

can i fucking breathe now? is it okay to exhale yet?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

guess so...whew...8-1. tough game, but they came out with a win.

[ceeps04]

That was a crazy fucking game. Holy SHit. Gotta love 8-1 and 3-0 in the NFC East. Yeah Motherfuckers. Keep this shit rolling

[Aizazzle]

Congrats

You guys were the better team throughout the game. Our defense couldn't stop Jacobs and Ward even if their family's lives depended on it. That and we have absolute shit for a coach.

[Steam]

That and we have absolute shit for a coach.

Andy Reid can't coach in the clutch. Who knew?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Andy Reid can't coach in the clutch. Who knew?

Tiki Barber, apparently. during the postgame show, they stated that Tiki was calling every play the Eagles were running because his 2-minute drills are very predictable.

[Steam]

Tiki Barber, apparently. during the postgame show, they stated that Tiki was calling every play the Eagles were running because his 2-minute drills are very predictable.

Tiki Barber is a jizzbag. I loved how he said it all with his phony ass grin. Oh wait, he always has that look on his face.

[GoldenOne]

Good game. So weird that Eli has gone 5 games without exceeding 200 yards and they are 4-1 in that time. Amazing what a good Defense and a great running game can do. My only gripe is they ran that stupid fucking inside handoff out of the shoutgun 5 straight times, and got stuffed each time, then on the biggest 3rd down of the game they run it again. Fucking baffling. Just take this POS play out of the playbook, even when it "works" it yields 5-8 yards.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Waaaaaaaaay too close of a game. Should have been 28-0 at half instead of 20-17

What the fuck was he thinking?
http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/nfl/img11094620.jpg

he should never ever ever hurdle someone like Asante Samuel. He should have lowered his shoulder and broken him in half

[Jimmy's Dignity]

i think that challenge might have saved the game for the Giants. hopefully that sent the momentum back into the Giants' favor.

yeah, that one was reaaaaally close. Although NBC's all about the line, but if you look at the top of the screen at the sideline you can see that the yard markers had the line of scrimmage marked at the 20

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/f6cee837-2fad-4d87-9058-23491fdf1c58.jpg

[JPetrucci23]

a bunch of their jerseys looked really weird. espeically Jacobs - he didn't have the red NY on his chest above the numbers.


8-1 FUCKERS!

[Muscles]

Im a Ravens fan. Huge game against the Giants. We have best rush defense in the league and havent allowed a 100 yard rusher in 28 straight games. Should be a great matchup. Hopefully Flacco can continue his maturity. Are Giants fans looking past Ravens to the Cowboys and Redskins?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I'm not looking past Baltimore...Super Bowl XXXV still stings something fierce. Baltimore is a definite challenge, possibly going to win the AFC North...Flacco's a good QB, has looked very mature at times throughout this season. I've got faith that Spagnuolo will draw up some looks that he hasn't seen yet and we'll get to him

[ceeps04]

Im a Ravens fan. Huge game against the Giants. We have best rush defense in the league and havent allowed a 100 yard rusher in 28 straight games. Should be a great matchup. Hopefully Flacco can continue his maturity. Are Giants fans looking past Ravens to the Cowboys and Redskins?


I don't think this team will look past anybody. That's not how they are. Especially because you guys are looking really good recently. Coughlin should bring up the Super Bowl and the ass kicking that you gave us in front of the world, and if that doesn't work he should bring up that joke that was the '04 game, in Eli's second start where he had a quarterback rating of like 4 I think. The Giants certainly have not had much success against the Ravens in the past so I am looking forward to this game and getting some much needed revenge.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

ESPN NFL Power Rankings: Week 11 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=11&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1)

(1) Tennessee Titans
(2) New York Giants
(4) Carolina Panthers
(3) Pittsburgh Steelers
(5) Washington Redskins
(7) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(12) New England Patriots
(10) Atlanta Falcons
(11) New York Jets
(15) Indianapolis Colts
(8) Arizona Cardinals
(13) Baltimore Ravens
(6) Philadelphia Eagles
(9) Chicago Bears
(17) Miami Dolphins
(19) Dallas Cowboys
(14) Buffalo Bills
(20) Minnesota Vikings
(22) Denver Broncos
(21) San Diego Chargers
(16) Green Bay Packers
(23) Jacksonville Jaguars
(18) New Orleans Saints
(24) Cleveland Browns
(25) Houston Texans
(28) San Francisco 49ers
(27) Seattle Seahawks
(26) St. Louis Rams
(31) Kansas City Chiefs
(29) Cincinnati Bengals
(30) Oakland Raiders
(32) Detroit Lions

[norton23]

You all may wan't to just start a thread called "The 2009 champion Giants thread."

Nobody is beating this team untill next season. Back to back is impressive. Well done.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Ah, but what did we learn from your mistakes last year? You never crown a champion until they win it themselves...:action-sm

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Ah, but what did we learn from your mistakes last year? You never crown a champion until they win it themselves...:action-sm

yes, let's not forget that priceless thread of pwnage that resulted. still makes me giggle.

the Ravens may have a great run defense, so we may very well see Eli going to the air more. it will be interesting to see how Jacobs, Ward, and Bradshaw fare against them. the best rushing combination against the best rushing defense definitely sounds like a big matchup. i don't think the Ravens D has ever faced such a constant rushing onslaught like that. that's the beauty of having three great RB's, they can keep the rush going all game, chipping away at the defense until they break through.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Randomness: Tom Coughlin has won 47% of his instant replay challenges; league average is only 39%. He's 27 for 58

Chase Blackburn won NFC's Special Teams Player of the Week; 3 special teams tackles & the fumble recovery

Corey Webster isn't practicing today, both James Butler & Kevin Dockery participated in individual drills. Webster's expected to practice tomorrow

[buya97]

my dad is a detective in Little Falls, NJ and just told me that Kareem McKenzie was arrested last there for an apparent drunk driving. He was stopped on the corner of Main Street and Rt. 23, for the people that know the area.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Booooooooo. Stupid Kareem. Here's a link to it (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/11/mckenzie-arrested-for-dui.html)

I wonder if he'll still starting on Sunday. If not...I wonder who'll replace him at RT

[JPetrucci23]

Coughlin was just on WFAN, Kareem practiced today and will start on Sunday.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I wonder how far above the .08 he was

[BCH]

is it me or did Jacobs look a little gimpy after that TD

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

well that touted Ravens rushing defense didn't look very good on that first Giants drive, Jacobs ran all over them.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

it's not just you Mike, even my mom said that he looked like he was limping. He'll be fine...probably get his ankle re-taped. Stupid Ed Reed

[BCH]

Hey, I'm a Ducks Unlimited Member!

I don't remember seeing her at any of the dinners.

[BCH]

That's a bunch of crap.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

goddamnit! How many fucking penalties are we going to get on this drive?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

blocked kick! fantastic!

[BCH]

Wooooooooooo!!!!!

I love a blocked Kick!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

w00t!!!! Fucking HUGE blocked field goal there :jump :jump

[BCH]

whew. It was a free play thank goodness

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Jacobs STILL on his feet and getting good blocks.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

touchdown....or is it? yes it is.

[BCH]

hahaha what were they waiting for?

Wow, Jacobs is schooling them so far.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

what the hell was that? haven't seen an extra point from the Giants botched like that in a long time.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Jacobs >>>>>>> Ravens D. Shitty snap there by Alford though :icon_evil

[BCH]

I miss Brad Daluiso. We haven't had a kicker who could bury it 10 deep in the end zone in a while.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Daluiso ruled...kickoffs through the uprights were awesome. Fuck Deion Sanders
it was on one of his returns that Brad tore his ACL. Dude was never the same after that

Okay, 94 yard drive, comin up! Orrrr a 90 yard drive, that works too

[BCH]

ok 90 yard drive comin' up.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

I miss Brad Daluiso. We haven't had a kicker who could bury it 10 deep in the end zone in a while.

he was able to kick it beyond the endzone, the guy had one hell of a leg. but then he got injured and sucked after. my best friend idolized Daluiso and wanted to become a kicker because of him. i even got him a customized Daluiso jersey for Christmas one year and stupid NFL Shop misspelled it DALVISO, and i had to explain why his Christmas present was going to be 3 weeks late.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

now Ward finding holes. something tells me the Ravens' defensive rating will be going down considerably after the end of this game.

[BCH]

I had a dream where the Giants lined up Jacobs, Ward, and Bradsaw in the wildcat formation.

Think we could teach one of them to throw?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

wow, the Ravens line looks defeated already.

[BCH]

Oh Hell yeah that was interference.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Ravens putting together a nice little goal line defense here.

another Giants TD.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

...has that guy even had a catch all year? Pretty fuckin sweet. Booo to Tynes on the shitty kickoff

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

yeah, it's bizarre. you go from blocking a FG to botching an extra point snap and an offsides kickoff. talk about turning on a dime.

and it looks like the Ravens are going to the trick plays to get some offensive life going.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I had a dream where the Giants lined up Jacobs, Ward, and Bradsaw in the wildcat formation.

Think we could teach one of them to throw?

oh man, that'd be fantastic. I bet it'd probably be Ward throwing the ball...I'd be shocked if they did anything but run the option.



Gotta give it to Flacco there, seeing him go out and lead block on the reverse was pretty cool on his part. I'd fucking love a turnover right here

[BCH]

According to my impeccable logic, Johnson gets to keep that ball.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

the bad news: Ravens hit a field goal.

the good news: Giants get the ball once again.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

anyone else's audio sounding canny on their televisions? it kinda sounds like when the bbboys run out of dump.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

nah, mine's doin alright. Wow...we got lucky there, but c'mon Plax....good break-up but if he didn't quit on the play he could have caught it instead of just broke it up

flag that early = illegal man down-field. OOoohhh...I love being wrong!

[BCH]

My audio sounds fine, but it's digital optical from my box to a 7.1 receiver.

Where's the pass Rush? Where's the pressure? Let's GO!

[BCH]

FUcKKK!!!! stupid offsides.


WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Ross!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Aaron Ross with the pick! and i liked the little joke about Tuck getting unfairly fined.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Wooo!!!! Ross with the pick! First INT for Flacco in like 4 or 5 games

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

wow, that Ravens D is so jumpy. two defensive offsides in a row.

[BCH]

hahah Another Justin Tuck joke.

wow Nice hard counts Eli

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

shit! Eli gets picked off.

[BCH]

Dammit! Eli can never have just a great game.

Well there was the Super Bowl. That was pretty great.

But you know what I mean. There's always a smudge on an otherwise great performance

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Dammit! Eli can never have just a great game.

Well there was the Super Bowl. That was pretty great.

But you know what I mean. There's always a smudge on an otherwise great performance

well there was that one pick in the Super Bowl that he was credited for, though it wasn't his fault. and that pass that just glanced off Asante Samuels' fingers that could have cost them the game. yeah, Eli can't seem to go a game without making a mistake or two, which worries the shit outta me during every game.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

fucking 3rd down is the bane of our existence. Fucking gay

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Where's Jacobs? "whaa"
I guess he really was gimpy after that first touchdown, huh?

Oh fuck that noise, challenge that shit! That was definitely incomplete, that sure as shit isn't an INT
okay, good challenge, but the additional 10 yards for the tripping penalty is horseshit. The trip happened before the ball was punted, it should be a re-kick

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

a pick six for Ross! way to get back into the game, G-Men.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Woooooooooo!!!!!! Ross with the nice little tip-drill INT for 6! :jump

[Jimmy's Dignity]

holy fucking shit, is ANYONE watching Flacco? I think that cocksucker has out rushed Jacobs!

[BCH]

Really, let's break his spindly legs already

hey, there was some pressure. It's about time.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

i'll give it to Flacco, he's showing his worth here, but i don't think it's gonna be enough today. he needs a better offensive around him so he doesn't have to run for his life.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

WHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Fucking Bradshaw is awesome. Why doesn't he get more carries?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

i fucking told you. these 3 great RBs will wear down a defensive line. it's a series of body shots throughout the game. Jacobs and Ward have been pounding them all day. it's 4th quarter, Bradshaw is fresh and the Ravens D is not.

[BCH]

wow. that blows. bradshaw should have out-run that DB

[Jimmy's Dignity]

no shit, we've got the hardest remaining schedule in the NFL.... combined .643 winning %

Didn't realize we've got 4 on the road out of the final 6

sloppy game...18 fucking penalties :icon_eek:

[BCH]

dont think that's a catch

Maybe it was.

[BCH]

nice play Kiwi

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Kiwi gets to Flacco, turnover on downs. looks like the Giants got this game locked up.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

wow...that chick was fuckin hot. Anyone able to get a screen cap of her? Hot Super-Giant-chick. Awesome win, unfortunate that neither Jacobs nor Bradshaw broke 100. can't believe that they broke 200 yards rushing...first time since 1997 that someone broke the 200 barrier against Baltimore


WOoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! Most wins for the Giants after a Super Bowl appearance ever!! :jump :clap9::clap9::clap9:

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

wow...that chick was fuckin hot. Anyone able to get a screen cap of her? Hot Super-Giant-chick

i think she was the same chick from one of the pics you posted a while ago, the one wearing the Tyree hardhat.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2008/10/06/gal_giants-seattle_7.jpg

Ah yes...I think you may be right. That's from 10/6...page 17. We should probably bring her along for every new week, unless of course we find some new pictures of her

[JPetrucci23]

9-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

So if we go out to Arizona and kick the Cards in the teeth, we'll match our best start to a season ever (I still fucking hate Randall Cunningham for ruining 11-0)

beat Washington in DC the week after that and the 2008 Giants will have the best start ever

[Mother Shucker]

Gints look righteous.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

hahahahahaha, the Eagles TIED the fucking Bengals

[Steam]

hahahahahaha, the Eagles TIED the fucking Bengals

Yeah, no shit. One of the guys at work picked them in the suicide pool and when he called I had to tell him that he was out. You didn't pick a WINNER, dummy.

The Giants played like shit against Cincy put they at least managed the W.

[Ronreddog]

Hello my fellow Giants fans! Although I did not see the game today, our GMEN fucking rule! Although the Titans went to 10-0, I still think we are the better team in the NFL.

We are back to the days of running the ball down opposition's throats. This team HAS to go to the Super Bowl again, I can't see anyone in the NFC beating us now.

GO BIG BLUE!

[ChrisH]

hahahahahaha, the Eagles TIED the fucking Bengals

Too much to hope that Washington-Dallas game also ends in a tie (after numerous injuries, of course)?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Tennesse has the better record, but their schedule isn't as tough, which is why the Giants are the better team. they're in the toughest division yet have only lost a single game so far.

and the Eagles tied? i didn't know they still allowed ties to happen. that can't be good for their playoff chances if they hope to be in the Wild Card runnings.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

From the Eagles thread....
It's because the dumb ****** didn't realize it could end in a tie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MVZg639gJ4&eurl=http://www.the700level.com/Fucking McNugget didn't even know that there were ties!

[JPetrucci23]

We Giant fans aren't used to this, but just a few tidbits to remind you just how fucking dominating our team is this year:

Point Differentials (NYG and TEN are really pulling away):
1 - NYG: +122 (#1 scoring offense, #6 scoring defense)
2 - Ten: +113
3 - Phi: +71

The Giants are AVERAGING 172.7 rushing yards per game. Let that sink in. thats just fucking sick. 2nd in the league? Oh, the Falcons who are averaging TWENTY YPG less at 153.4!

Giants are averaging 5.3 yards per carry. Falcons are 2nd at 4.4 YPC.

ENJOY THIS SEASON!!!!!!

[Papagolash]

I can't believe Eli hasn't thrown for 200 yards in 6 games now. Fuck I love watching this team.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

:icon_conf :icon_conf :icon_conf

Jacobs to have MRI on "ailing knee" ("http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/11/jacobs-to-have-mri-on-ailing-k.html)
Giants running back Brandon Jacobs has some swelling in his knee and will have an MRI later today, but Tom Coughlin sounded “hopeful” that Jacobs would be able to play in Arizona on Sunday afternoon.

“There’s a little swelling,” Coughlin said on a conference call a few minutes ago. “He’s walking really well. They’re going to do all the tests. Hopefully we’ll get this under control.”

Coughlin declined to say which knee Jacobs injured, but he said it happened early in the Giants’ 30-10 win over Baltimore yesterday. Jacobs carried 11 times for 73 yards, but nine of those carries came in the first half. Afterwards, Jacobs said he could’ve returned to the game if necessary. Coughlin said that was true.

“Yeah, I think that was the way it was,” Coughlin said. “He came out and was ready to go. You know, we wanted to make sure exactly what this is. So we were cautious.”

Of course, even with Jacobs temporarily sidelined, the Giants still managed to put up 207 yards on the NFL’s No. 1 rushing defense. Derrick Ward rushed 11 times for 41 yards and Ahmad Bradshaw rushed nine times for 96 yards, including a 77-yarder. So it’s possible the Giants’ rushing game could still thrive if Jacobs has to miss some time.

“We’ve been down this road before,” Coughlin said. “Hopefully this won’t keep Brandon out at all, but we have some people that are prepared.”

should be fine, but still it's an aggravation

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Just saw on ESPN that the Giants have rushed for 200+ yards in 3 straight games...first time in the NFL that that's happened since the Bengals did it in 2003. First time the Giants have done it since 1952 :D

[Jimmy's Dignity]

if the Giants only had 1 main running back....he'd already have 1,711 yards and would shatter Eric Dickerson's single-season record.

Jacobs: 879 yards, 5.4 ypc, 44 yard long, 11 TD's
Ward: 531 yards, 5.3 ypc, 22 yard long, 1 TD
Bradshaw: 301 yards, 6.7 ypc, 77 yard long, 1 TD

[askewcore]

This is the first time in my life (I'll be 25 in March) that I can watch the Giants and go, "Yeah, we're the best team in the league" and it feels good.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Yeah, even when we were 10-0 in 1990 I still had to give it to San Fran as being better than us

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Ward says Jacobs' will be fine (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/11/derrick-ward-says-jacobs-will.html)

Tom Coughlin says, "we'll see" (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/11/wait-and-see-on-jacobs-knee.html)

Jacobs says he may not play on Sunday, although there's no major damage (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/11/jacobs-says-he-might-not-play.html)

[Jimmy's Dignity]

ESPN Power Rankings: Week 12 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=12)


(1) Tennessee Titans
(2) New York Giants
(3) Carolina Panthers
(4) Pittsburgh Steelers
(6) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(9) New York Jets
(11) Arizona Cardinals
(10) Indianapolis Colts
(5) Washington Redskins
(7) New England Patriots
(16) Dallas Cowboys
(15) Miami Dolphins
(12) Baltimore Ravens
(8) Atlanta Falcons
(19) Denver Broncos
(21) Green Bay Packers
(13) Philadelphia Eagles
(17) Buffalo Bills
(14) Chicago Bears
(23) New Orleans Saints
(18) Minnesota Vikings
(20) San Diego Chargers
(22) Jacksonville Jaguars
(24) Cleveland Browns
(25) Houston Texans
(26) San Francisco 49ers
(27) Seattle Seahawks
(28) St. Louis Rams
(30) Cincinnati Bengals
(29) Kansas City Chiefs
(31) Oakland Raiders
(32) Detroit Lions

[iSpeakEloquent]

This is the first time in my life (I'll be 25 in March) that I can watch the Giants and go, "Yeah, we're the best team in the league" and it feels good.

same, ill be 26 in june and i feel the same way, anytime the giants have been good (ive been following since about 96) they've always been underdogs. I like being underdogs but being the favorites for once is kinda cool. Plus to have it with the rangers in the same year so far is pretty cool.

[iSpeakEloquent]

ESPN Power Rankings: Week 12 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=12)


(1) Tennessee Titans
(2) New York Giants
(3) Carolina Panthers
(4) Pittsburgh Steelers
(6) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(9) New York Jets
(11) Arizona Cardinals
(10) Indianapolis Colts
(5) Washington Redskins
(7) New England Patriots
(16) Dallas Cowboys
(15) Miami Dolphins
(12) Baltimore Ravens
(8) Atlanta Falcons
(19) Denver Broncos
(21) Green Bay Packers
(13) Philadelphia Eagles
(17) Buffalo Bills
(14) Chicago Bears
(23) New Orleans Saints
(18) Minnesota Vikings
(20) San Diego Chargers
(22) Jacksonville Jaguars
(24) Cleveland Browns
(25) Houston Texans
(26) San Francisco 49ers
(27) Seattle Seahawks
(28) St. Louis Rams
(30) Cincinnati Bengals
(29) Kansas City Chiefs
(31) Oakland Raiders
(32) Detroit Lions


i can't wait til tennessee finally loses so the giants will be #1. oh and my prediction is in 2 weeks when the 11-0 titans play the 0-11 lions.

[Ronreddog]

The Giants rushing attack is the best I have seen. In all my years of following the Giants, I am so impressed with this team. The O line is fucking sick!

Giants rule!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Pro Bowl balloting update... (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/11/its-a-landslide-redskins-domin.html)


It's a landslide! Redskins dominating Pro Bowl vote
There’s some ballot-stuffing going on down in D.C.

With three weeks to go in the NFL’s Pro Bowl fan voting on NFL.com (which runs through Dec. 9), an incredible 16 members of the Washington Redskins lead in the voting at their respective positions. That’s just stunning considering the Redskins trail the Giants by three games in the NFC East and considering there are only 19 positional categories on the ballot.

The Redskins also have four of the Top 10 overall vote-getters — RB Clinton Portis (second), TE Chris Cooley (fifth), WR Santana Moss (sixth) and QB Jason Campbell (ninth). The only Giants player in the Top 10 is quarterback Eli Manning, who ranks fourth with 395,526 votes. And he’s still only second among NFC quarterbacks. New Orleans’ Drew Brees (the overall vote leader) is first.

Of course, fan voting - which has been open since Oct. 13 — only counts for only one-third of the Pro Bowl selection process. Votes from coaches and players make up the other two-thirds. Still, that’s a lot of Redskins. And it’ll undoubtedly remind a lot of Giants about last season when the Dallas Cowboys sent 147 players to the Pro Bowl and the champs sent only Osi Umenyiora.

No respect, I tell ya …

On the bright side, there is hope since 17 Giants do appear in the top five in the voting at their positions in the NFC:

• Justin Tuck leads all NFC defensive ends (198,223)

• Eli Manning, as I mentioned earlier, is second among NFC quarterbacks (395,526)

• Shaun O’Hara is second among NFC centers (170,262)

• Madison Hedgecock is second among NFC fullbacks (90,818)

• John Carney is second among NFC kickers (56,796)

• Jeff Feagles is second among NFC punters (106,723)

• Chase Blackburn is second among NFC special teams players (60,918)

• Kevin Boss is third among NFC tight ends (108,914 … 31,000 votes ahead of Jeremy Shockey, by the way)

• Chris Snee is third among NFC guards (137,481)

• Antonio Pierce is third among NFC inside linebackers (98,265)

• David Diehl is third (92,706) and Kareem McKenzie is fourth (80,156) among NFC tackles

• Plaxico Burress if fourth among NFC receivers (199,605)

• Michael Johnson is fourth among NFC free safeties (42,068)

• Brandon Jacobs is fifth among NFC running backs (174,856)

• Fred Robbins is fifth among NFC defensive tackles (84,143)

• James Butler is fifth among NFC strong safeties (46,488)Sooo...yeah, if you want to do your part and cast some votes...Go Here (http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot)

on a side note, how in the FUCK is Jacobs in 5th for running backs? I'd say Peterson, Jacobs, & Portis...in that order

[iSpeakEloquent]

it doesn't mean much, it's only 1/3 of the vote which means its almost meaningless. Fred Robbins not in the top 3? fuck off

oh and does anyone know when the game is being replayed on the nfl network or anywhere, my dvr didn't tape it because it was on cbs.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yeah, I know the fan vote means shit...but since there ain't shit on tv tonight, I've just been clearing shit off my DVR & voting all night. No clue when the game'll be replayed on NFL network cause the Dolans suck and don't offer it

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Aaron Ross named NFC Devensive Player of the Week (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/11/ross-named-nfc-defensive-playe.html). 6 tackles, 2 ints

first Giants player to win it since Osi won it in Week 7 last year. First Giants DB to win it since <drumroll please>........Percy fucking Ellsworth won it in Week 16 of 1998.


Jacobs ready to go full-speed in practice. (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/11/jacobs-ready-to-go-full-speed.html)

[rahrah]

Heard an interesting nugget today, although it seems unlikely both will happen.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/22/giants-could-get-a-first-rounder-for-shockey/

Giants get a 1st rounder from the awful Saints if Vilma plays 85% of the Defensive plays and they re-sign him.

[iSpeakEloquent]

yeah, I know the fan vote means shit...but since there ain't shit on tv tonight, I've just been clearing shit off my DVR & voting all night. No clue when the game'll be replayed on NFL network cause the Dolans suck and don't offer it

get fios, i know they don't have msghd but ive seen msghd and its hardly hd quality so just get fios and watch it in widescreen and its not much of a difference (same with vs)

Heard an interesting nugget today, although it seems unlikely both will happen.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/22/giants-could-get-a-first-rounder-for-shockey/

Giants get a 1st rounder from the awful Saints if Vilma plays 85% of the Defensive plays and they re-sign him.

reese is a fuckin genius i bet he knew that all along

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Fios would be awesome, but it's "not available" in my area :icon_evil

I love the possibility of the Shockey trade netting us a first rounder, but like mots people in that article said, they could see Vilma playing 84.998% of the defensive plays and "Aww shucks, he didn't make it" or even worse, they hold off on re-signing him until a certain date and then that part of the verbiage with the Jets could be avoided :icon_conf

[JPetrucci23]

Jacobs is out, inactive.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Jacobs is out, inactive.

where'd you hear that? just checked nfl.com and they say he's gonna play despite his knee.

well if Jacobs is out, at least Bradshaw will get more field time. and who knows, we might actually see Droughns. :icon_surp

[JPetrucci23]

where'd you hear that? just checked nfl.com and they say he's gonna play despite his knee.

well if Jacobs is out, at least Bradshaw will get more field time. and who knows, we might actually see Droughns. :icon_surp

Inactive Lists:

GIANTS
K Lawrence Tynes
S Sammy Knight
RB Brandon Jacobs
CB Sam Madison
LB Gerris Wilkinson
OL Adam Koets
WR Mario Manningham
DE Jerome McDougle

CARDINALS
QB Brian St. Pierre
LB Clark Haggans
OT Elliot Vallejo
OT Brandon Keith
DT Alan Branch
WR Early Doucet
TE Jerame Touman
TE Leonard Pope

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Jacobs is out, inactive.

well that's a pisser...I needed points from him :mad4:

nice return there by Hixon to start the game

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

yeah, looks like nfl.com has updated Jacob's status. Cardinals are good at causing turnovers, so hopefully Eli will keep it to just one INT this time.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

man...the Cards are just moving down the field with ease. Pisser having those two passes get defended on the first drive

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

yeah, those two passes to Plax and Toomer were right on the money but the Cards were all over them.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

looks like they're going for it on 4th and 1.

EDIT: and they convert on the 4th.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

touchdown!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

looks like they're still wearing the jerseys without the NY on the front.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

that's what happens when you get a penalty on a kickoff. too bad they'll only be getting a FG off it.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

the Cards are getting down the field quite easily and getting good field position on bad kicks and stupid mistakes by the Giants, but the Giants goal line defense has been going a good job keeping them out of the endzone.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Hixon with another phenomenal kickoff return.

[Papagolash]

OK what the hell was that? What's a free kick? I dont understand it. They had 1st and 10, and they did a free kick? Why wasn't it set up like a field goal? I'm so lost on what that was all about.

[Papagolash]

K just found out. If you make a fair catch you're allowed to do a free kick on the next play.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Hixon's having a fucking gem of a game :D

hopefully we start getting to Warner a little bit faster...need to get a few sacks here

[Jimmy's Dignity]

OK what the hell was that? What's a free kick? I dont understand it. They had 1st and 10, and they did a free kick? Why wasn't it set up like a field goal? I'm so lost on what that was all about.

K just found out. If you make a fair catch you're allowed to do a free kick on the next play.

yup...I was about to explain it...talk about a weird string of events. Hopefully we can start running the ball a little harder...team's definitely missing Jacobs. Sucks that Plax's hamstring shut him down, but it's better to shut him down and have him healthy later

[Jimmy's Dignity]

:siren :siren Hedgecock!! I can't believe he finally fucking caught the ball...


christ, I know Larry Fitz is fucking awesome, but get some coverage on him!
oh and according to Ralph Vacciano, Jacobs made the decision to sit himself

[thetick130]

Good job Hedgecock. good thing he didn't drop that shit

[thetick130]

It seems like they are picking this up now that we get closer to the end of the game.

[BCH]

:siren :siren Hedgecock!! I can't believe he finally fucking caught the ball...




Fucking stone hands came up with a big one. It's about time.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Mike...what the hell is your Avatar? It looks like Isaac Hayes got diamonds thrown into his face

[Jimmy's Dignity]

goddamnit, another fucking arm-bar...completely unnecessary too, that ball was not going to get caught

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Boss!!! Fucking love this kid. Really makes me not upset with the Shockey trade

[Jimmy's Dignity]

holy shit did we get away with one there :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

How the hell did we not have our hands team out there for the onside kick? If we had Jacobs in there today, this game would have been entirely different

[JPetrucci23]

10-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

10-1 :D :jump

last time we were 10-1, 1990

[BCH]

Woooooooooooo!

No Jacobs, No Burress and they still pull it off against a formidable opponent.

Oh BTW Andrew, that's "box" from "Logan's Run" a great '70s sci-fi film which was overshadowed by Star Wars.

And oh, was that a triple post? You must have been excited.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Ahhh...I only saw Logan's Run once years ago. As for the triple post...I got caught up in the back-up


absolutely loving the fact that we're the best fucking team in the NFL

[BCH]

absolutely loving the fact that we're the best fucking team in the NFL

It does have a nice ring to it. :D

[TEXAS TRUCKER]

Dec 14th. Texas Stadium. Dallas. It would be a great birfday present to see the Giants go down.






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[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Dec 14th. Texas Stadium. Dallas. It would be a great birfday present to see the Giants go down.






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don't get ahead of yourself. or we WILL bring it back to haunt you. just ask norton23. :action-sm

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Soooo....3 division games in a row comin up. Skins, Birds, & Boys...play well, win the games, clinch that division title :D :D :D

[BCH]

don't get ahead of yourself. or we WILL bring it back to haunt you. just ask norton23. :action-sm

Ahhh. Some of my best work :)

I don't care how anyone's playing or has played, division games are always an asshole tightener in this particular division. Let's Hope the G-men can keep rising to the occasion.

[askewcore]

Three big division games in a row coming up now. We have a chance to tear the heart out of Washington,Philly and Dallas now. Unquestionably the best team in the league. I love it.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

these 3 division games in a row are HUGE. Can wrap up the division and playoffs right here

[BCH]

I really don't know how to feel when the pundits start talking about the Giants and using the types of platitudes usually reserved for other teams. I haven't ever heard my Giants talked about in those terms. Not even in '86 and '90. Sure, the Defense had praise heaped upon it back then but it was never like this for the team as a whole. I also don't believe anyone ever thought they were the team to beat in the NFL. Not even the 3 years when they won the Superbowl.

[askewcore]

Number 1 on ESPN power rankings. We just gotta keep it up, I cant believe how strong this team looks. I dont even like talking about it for fear of upsetting the almighty football gods

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Mike's right, in '86 I'd bet that it was still all about the '85 Bears defense (even though we went 14-2); in '90 the Giants were (13-3) and everyone could/would only talk about the Bills and 49ers. Last season, under no circumstances were the Giants ever once mentioned as a championship contender.

This year, it's strange...they're talking about the Giants with nice laudatory terms, yet all it takes is the Cowboys to beat up on the godawful 9ers and everyone immediately forgets about the Giants. I've never seen it happen like that before


ESPN NFL Power Rankings: Week 13 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=13)

(2) New York Giants
(1) Tennessee Titans
(6) New York Jets
(4) Pittsburgh Steelers
(5) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(8) Indianapolis Colts
(3) Carolina Panthers
(10) New England Patriots
(11) Dallas Cowboys
(14) Atlanta Falcons
(7) Arizona Cardinals
(9) Washington Redskins
(13) Baltimore Ravens
(12) Miami Dolphins
(19) Chicago Bears
(20) New Orleans Saints
(21) Minnesota Vikings
(18) Buffalo Bills
(15) Denver Broncos
(16) Green Bay Packers
(17) Philadelphia Eagles
(22) San Diego Chargers
(25) Houston Texans
(23) Jacksonville Jaguars
(24) Cleveland Browns
(31) Oakland Raiders
(26) San Francisco 49ers
(27) Seattle Seahawks
(28) St. Louis Rams
(29) Cincinnati Bengals
(30) Kansas City Chiefs
(32) Detroit Lions

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Bradshaw is out today with a stiff neck according to Vacchiano

Oops...my bad, he was out of practice yesterday...not the game. I'm a dope

[BCH]

Oh my god, the Cowboys beat a shitty 2-9 team yesterday and you'd think they slayed fucking Goliath. "Here they come! The Resurgent Cowboys on a Big Ol' winning streak!!" Calm the fuck down, it's San Francisco and Seattle. It's really true, some teams don't have to do much to have good things written / said about them.

[JPetrucci23]

Oh my god, the Cowboys beat a shitty 2-9 team yesterday and you'd think they slayed fucking Goliath. "Here they come! The Resurgent Cowboys on a Big Ol' winning streak!!" Calm the fuck down, it's San Francisco and Seattle. It's really true, some teams don't have to do much to have good things written / said about them.


its funny how when the Cowboys beat those teams, "they're back!" and when the Giants beat them, its "well they haven't beaten anyone good."

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yeah, the Cowboys are just one of those teams...everyone seems to WANT the Cowboys to win the Super Bowl...the drama of Jessica Simpson's tits and TO's popcorn nonsense. Fucking hate that franchise. It'll be interesting to see if the coverage turns back to normal after the Steelers kick them in the throat

[askewcore]

Aikman should never be allowed to announce Dallas games. Listening to him slobber on Romo's balls and how much he LOVES the Cowboys is just annoying. And unprofessional. The Cowboys the the worst franchise in sports, I despise everything about them, and the playoffs are gonna be lovely with them on the golf course.

[askewcore]

It'll be interesting to see if the coverage turns back to normal after the Steelers kick them in the throat

Everytime they lose, there is some excuse. I cant wait for the Giants to shit all over them again.

Apologies for the ol double post

[Jimmy's Dignity]

never an issue when it's bashing the Cowboys :D

I'm bummed for Sunday though, I'm going to the Rangers game at 1pm on Sunday, so I'll be missing the Giants game :arrrh:
maybe they'll have it on at the Play-by-Play

[cosmic cow]

its funny how when the Cowboys beat those teams, "they're back!" and when the Giants beat them, its "well they haven't beaten anyone good."

when the cowboys lost to the cardinals people couldn't believe they lost to the lowly cardinals but when the giants beat the cardinals it was a huge win against a great offensive team

[Jimmy's Dignity]

when the cowboys lost to the cardinals people couldn't believe they lost to the lowly cardinals but when the giants beat the cardinals it was a huge win against a great offensive team

and yet when the Cowboys beat the 49ers & Seahawks, they're back to being the Super Bowl favorites...

[askewcore]

when the cowboys lost to the cardinals people couldn't believe they lost to the lowly cardinals but when the giants beat the cardinals it was a huge win against a great offensive team

When the Cowboys lost to Arizona, Arizona was 3-2 and 14th in the power rankings. When we beat them they were 7-3 and 7th. See the difference?

[cosmic cow]

When the Cowboys lost to Arizona, Arizona was 3-2 and 14th in the power rankings. When we beat them they were 7-3 and 7th. See the difference?

And what were the Cardinals ranked last night when they got destroyed?

[cosmic cow]

and yet when the Cowboys beat the 49ers & Seahawks, they're back to being the Super Bowl favorites...

I don't think anyone is saying the cowboys are the superbowl favorite's right now. I may start to believe if they beat the steelers. the 49ers and seahawks are crap teams but you have to play who is on your schedule

the media around here is already talking about a Jets Giants superbowl and how will giants stadium handle having 2 championship games played

[Jimmy's Dignity]

And what were the Cardinals ranked last night when they got destroyed?
11th. Not one West Coast team has come East this season and won, in either Conference

[JPetrucci23]

Plaxico is OUT for Sunday's game.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/11/wr_plaxico_burress_out_for_sun.html

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Eh....sucks he's out, but that just means Hixon'll get more snaps, and that's definitely a good thing. Rest him, let that hammy get 100% in time for the Playoffs

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Oh and apparently O'Hara got fined $5,000 for hitting someone after a play

and he doesn't give a shit (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/11/ohara-smacked-with-5000-fine.html)

[iSpeakEloquent]

I don't think anyone is saying the cowboys are the superbowl favorite's right now. I may start to believe if they beat the steelers. the 49ers and seahawks are crap teams but you have to play who is on your schedule

the media around here is already talking about a Jets Giants superbowl and how will giants stadium handle having 2 championship games played

and that's ridiculous too, it's fun to think about but to think that it will happen is crazy. It's way too far away.

[caniseeyourtaint]

Whoops...who saw this coming?

New York Giants receiver Plaxico Burress suffered an accidental gunshot wound Friday night in a club, according to multiple sources.



Burress
Details of the incident weren't immediately available, but according to a source the wound was not considered life-threatening.

Fox Sports.com reported that Burress accidentally shot himself in the leg and spent the night in the hospital.


Burress, who was not expected to play against the Washington Redskins on Sunday with a hamstring injury, was not at team meetings and did not attend the team's Saturday walkthrough.


The Giants organization was not commenting on the story.

In September, Burress was suspended for a game and fined for a violation of team rules, reportedly failing to appear at a team meeting and being unavailable by phone. At the time, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said that Burress was tending to urgent family matters.

Burress signed a five-year, $35 million contract this fall after helping the Giants to a Super Bowl championship last season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3733021

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Whoops...who saw this coming?



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3733021

hmmm, looks like he may face weapons charges and probably wreckless endangerment for the accidental discharge of his weapon. anyone wanna take a guess at how much jail time he could be facing?

[WarshCloth]

hmmm, looks like he may face weapons charges and probably wreckless endangerment for the accidental discharge of his weapon. anyone wanna take a guess at how much jail time he could be facing?

Lets see, star athelete, lots of money...my guess is zero jail time...a heavy but managable fine...and speakign apperances to kids on the smarts of putting the gun in your pants and your clip in your pocket...to prevent those shootings

[caniseeyourtaint]

The question remains...why he (or any of these other overpaid, hip hop generation, thug wannabees) is carrying a gun in a night club anyways?

[askewcore]

The question remains...why he (or any of these other overpaid, hip hop generation, thug wannabees) is carrying a gun in a night club anyways?

Maybe because of things like, Richard Collier being shot and having his leg amputated, Javon Walker being beaten to a pulp and left in a gutter, Darrent Williams being killed, Sean Taylor being shot to death, Will Allen getting mugged and robbed of $100,000 worth of stuff when he was a rookie in New York. Oh, but since Burress is 6'6'' and in the paper everyday, at least he is not easily recognizable and he is hard to spot in a crowd, plus people dont know that he has alot of money and an awful lot to lose, which would make him an easy target. But, since he's black he only has a gun because he is a thug, and because of hip-hop...because this is wackbag, and here all black people are scum.

[WhiskeyWhispers]

Maybe because of things like, Richard Collier being shot and having his leg amputated, Javon Walker being beaten to a pulp and left in a gutter, Darrent Williams being killed, Sean Taylor being shot to death, Will Allen getting mugged and robbed of $100,000 worth of stuff when he was a rookie in New York. Oh, but since Burress is 6'6'' and in the paper everyday, at least he is not easily recognizable and he is hard to spot in a crowd, plus people dont know that he has alot of money and an awful lot to lose, which would make him an easy target. But, since he's black he only has a gun because he is a thug, and because of hip-hop...because this is wackbag, and here all black people are scum.

OK, so how come we never hear about white football players being shot? I can pretty much guarantee you won't hear about Eli Manning getting shot or shooting anyone. I'll bet Brett Favre won't be the victim of a drive by anytime soon.

Same thing for rappers. Metallica probably won't get shot and killed by Slayer. Axl Rose challenged Vince Neil to a fight once, and the guy from White Stripes punched someone. But no one from a rock band went out and shot another rock band member. Rappers get shot/robbed/beaten all the time.

But it's just racism, you're right.

Burress is a fucking thug. End of story.

[Steam]

The question remains...why he (or any of these other overpaid, hip hop generation, thug wannabees) is carrying a gun in a night club anyways?

Maybe because of things like, Richard Collier being shot and having his leg amputated, Javon Walker being beaten to a pulp and left in a gutter, Darrent Williams being killed, Sean Taylor being shot to death, Will Allen getting mugged and robbed of $100,000 worth of stuff when he was a rookie in New York. Oh, but since Burress is 6'6'' and in the paper everyday, at least he is not easily recognizable and he is hard to spot in a crowd, plus people dont know that he has alot of money and an awful lot to lose, which would make him an easy target. But, since he's black he only has a gun because he is a thug, and because of hip-hop...because this is wackbag, and here all black people are scum.

Wow, caniseeyourtaint, you've just been served, son.

[askewcore]

OK, so how come we never hear about white football players being shot? I can pretty much guarantee you won't hear about Eli Manning getting shot or shooting anyone. I'll bet Brett Favre won't be the victim of a drive by anytime soon.

Same thing for rappers. Metallica probably won't get shot and killed by Slayer. Axl Rose challenged Vince Neil to a fight once, and the guy from White Stripes punched someone. But no one from a rock band went out and shot another rock band member. Rappers get shot/robbed/beaten all the time.

Who shot Dimebag, again? That ****** was a real scumbag huh?

When you are a quarterback, you go out less, because typically you're the face of the franchise, the highest paid guy there and the one who needs to put in the most work...plus, 90% of the league is black. Either that, or Eli knows how to work the saftey on his gun. And comapring it ro rappers it silly because football players never shoot one another.

Matt Jones got busted for blowing lines in his car, he's white. No one made a big stink about that.

Aside from having an AD, which admittedly is as stupid a thing as one could have happen to him, what trouble has he been in with the law, to be considered a "thug". You know who's a thug? Pacman Jones. Burress is just a loudmouth, high profile black athlete. He is no more of a thug than TO (who gets a bad rap, but never gets into trouble)

[caniseeyourtaint]

Wow, caniseeyourtaint, you've just been served, son.


No actually, I wasn't. As was already pointed out, Burress is a thug as was most of the other players that got into some sort of trouble. Wanna pull out Mike Vick? Paman Jones? What is one thing in common with all the names listed in the last few posts? I didn't say BLACKS...I said savages and thugs into that lifestyle. There are plenty of black players that stay out of trouble. I was not referencing them. It just so happens that a large majority of the players (in all sports) that are involved in shootings and legal troubles are black. Not my fault...just facts. Their thug attitudes get them into locations and situations that cause problems. I didn't make this about race. But since it was brought up...as whispers said, why don't we hear about white players getting into the same problems? They make just as much money and are just as high profile. Maybe its because they stay away from the thug lifestyle and questionable associates.

[WhiskeyWhispers]

Who shot Dimebag, again? That ****** was a real scumbag huh?

When you are a quarterback, you go out less, because typically you're the face of the franchise, the highest paid guy there and the one who needs to put in the most work...plus, 90% of the league is black. Either that, or Eli knows how to work the saftey on his gun. And comapring it ro rappers it silly because football players never shoot one another.

Matt Jones got busted for blowing lines in his car, he's white. No one made a big stink about that.

Aside from having an AD, which admittedly is as stupid a thing as one could have happen to him, what trouble has he been in with the law, to be considered a "thug". You know who's a thug? Pacman Jones. Burress is just a loudmouth, high profile black athlete. He is no more of a thug than TO (who gets a bad rap, but never gets into trouble)

The guy who shot Dimebag, random psycho, had nothing to do with beef with another band. Apples and oranges.

Burress has at least one small child at home. What the fuck is he doing at a club? If so many innocent guys are getting shot and robbed going to these clubs, guess what Sherlock? Stay the fuck home. You have millions of dollars, throw your own parties.

Matt Jones did drugs, irrelevant to my point. Never said anything about drugs.

Burress has always been a problem. He's a typical arrogant, ghetto ass thug. Whether you believe that or not means nothing to me. There are millions of people who dream of getting where he is in life, and would do much better with it. It's time sports organizations stop rewarding these goons with millions of dollars, they would be in fucking prison if they couldn't catch, hit, or dunk a ball.

[caniseeyourtaint]

Who shot Dimebag, again? That ****** was a real scumbag huh?

When you are a quarterback, you go out less, because typically you're the face of the franchise, the highest paid guy there and the one who needs to put in the most work...plus, 90% of the league is black. Either that, or Eli knows how to work the saftey on his gun. And comapring it ro rappers it silly because football players never shoot one another.

Matt Jones got busted for blowing lines in his car, he's white. No one made a big stink about that.

Aside from having an AD, which admittedly is as stupid a thing as one could have happen to him, what trouble has he been in with the law, to be considered a "thug". You know who's a thug? Pacman Jones. Burress is just a loudmouth, high profile black athlete. He is no more of a thug than TO (who gets a bad rap, but never gets into trouble)

I agree that anyone is capable of getting into trouble. But the ratio is far leaning in one direction...and much more violent situations. Look...I love Burress as a player...but his attitude is thug. His 'I'll do what I want...screw what the bosses say' is thug. You don't carry a gun into a club. Not sure if the story said if he had license to carry or conceal...but you just don't put yourself into that situation. Why was it out in order for him to shoot himself anyways? Its not thinking right. And yeah...hes far from some of the worst offenders out there...but his pattern of behavior is leading more and more in that direction.

[Steam]

OK, so how come we never hear about white football players being shot? I can pretty much guarantee you won't hear about Eli Manning getting shot or shooting anyone. I'll bet Brett Favre won't be the victim of a drive by anytime soon.

Same thing for rappers. Metallica probably won't get shot and killed by Slayer. Axl Rose challenged Vince Neil to a fight once, and the guy from White Stripes punched someone. But no one from a rock band went out and shot another rock band member. Rappers get shot/robbed/beaten all the time.

But it's just racism, you're right.

Burress is a fucking thug. End of story.

Go read the latest issue of ESPN The Magazine where they talk about how football players and how they are making an attempt to protect themselves after what happened to Williams and Taylor. Its not just the ones you want to classify as "thugs" either. What about Roethlisberger who talks about how he had a weapon brandished on him years back and since then has had to protect himself.

Its fucking stupid to just make the assumption that the only ones who would do harm to these athletes are blacks and the only ones they want to harm are other blacks.

No actually, I wasn't. As was already pointed out, Burress is a thug as was most of the other players that got into some sort of trouble. Wanna pull out Mike Vick? Paman Jones? What is one thing in common with all the names listed in the last few posts? I didn't say BLACKS...I said savages and thugs into that lifestyle. There are plenty of black players that stay out of trouble. I was not referencing them. It just so happens that a large majority of the players (in all sports) that are involved in shootings and legal troubles are black. Not my fault...just facts. Their thug attitudes get them into locations and situations that cause problems. I didn't make this about race. But since it was brought up...as whispers said, why don't we hear about white players getting into the same problems? They make just as much money and are just as high profile. Maybe its because they stay away from the thug lifestyle and questionable associates.

How is Plaxico wanting to protect himself now considered a thug? What about the countless WHITE athletes and sports figures who get busted for having guns? What about Paul Pierce who got stabbed countless times in a club years back?

You can try to sugarcoat it however you like to but you were just making that comment based on his color.

[moegolden]

Plaxhas earned his own thread for this one, but I won't start it.

[Ball of Hate]

Go read the latest issue of ESPN The Magazine where they talk about how football players and how they are making an attempt to protect themselves after what happened to Williams and Taylor. Its not just the ones you want to classify as "thugs" either. What about Roethlisberger who talks about how he had a weapon brandished on him years back and since then has had to protect himself.

Its fucking stupid to just make the assumption that the only ones who would do harm to these athletes are blacks and the only ones they want to harm are other blacks.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?section=magazine&id=3711012

Good read.

You can try to sugarcoat it however you like to but you were just making that comment based on his color.

That's what we do here at Wackbag! :action-sm:D

[askewcore]

The guy who shot Dimebag, random psycho, had nothing to do with beef with another band. Apples and oranges.

Oh, I wasnt aware Terrence Newman shot Plax. And that Brian Dawkins killed Sean Taylor. It looked to me like you were talking about black people shooting prominent, rich black guys. And techinically, that little cunt psycho white kid thought Dimebag lifted some of his music, so it was kind of beef with another band. Albeit made up and unknown.

Burress has at least one small child at home. What the fuck is he doing at a club? If so many innocent guys are getting shot and robbed going to these clubs, guess what Sherlock? Stay the fuck home. You have millions of dollars, throw your own parties.

Throw parties at his house? With his small kid there. He also has a wife to watch his baby. And he's an adult who should be allowed to go out to a club. He is not playing this week, there is nothing wrong with his going out to a club. Your saying that because he is famous, he should stay at home? Are you anti-gun?

There are millions of people who dream of getting where he is in life, and would do much better with it.

Who arent as good as him. Thats life. You dont think a million people would like to be Axl Rose and would actually go onstage before 1 AM if they were? But they didnt make it.

It's time sports organizations stop rewarding these goons with millions of dollars, they would be in fucking prison if they couldn't catch, hit, or dunk a ball.

:puke:

I agree that anyone is capable of getting into trouble. But the ratio is far leaning in one direction...and much more violent situations. Look...I love Burress as a player...but his attitude is thug. His 'I'll do what I want...screw what the bosses say' is thug. You don't carry a gun into a club. Not sure if the story said if he had license to carry or conceal...but you just don't put yourself into that situation. Why was it out in order for him to shoot himself anyways? Its not thinking right. And yeah...hes far from some of the worst offenders out there...but his pattern of behavior is leading more and more in that direction.

If he was white, we'd just call him an asshole. He doesnt really do "thug" shit, like dogfighting, shooting bouncers or stockpiling weapons, he is just a dick. He skips treatments, he curses at refs, he shows up late. Hes a fucking jerk, yes, but not a thug so much. That word is being used cause he is black.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

He doesnt really do "thug" shit, like dogfighting, shooting bouncers or stockpiling weapons, he is just a dick. He skips treatments, he curses at refs, he shows up late. Hes a fucking jerk, yes, but not a thug so much. That word is being used cause he is black.

Anthony Cumia is a thug?

[WarshCloth]

Anthony Cumia is a thug?

No he has thug tendances...but his crying at confrontation keeps him from being a thug.

Trust me...its hard to turn ur hand 90 degrees and aim ur glock while ur crying cause Julio threw his spagetti at Terell


As for the issue at hand...no he's not a thug...thugs don't shoot themselves in the thigh, they shoot other people...

Plax is an idiot...


And yes, with a family and a young child, he really doesn't have the right to go out to a club with a gun...

When you become a (KEY WORD) "responsible" parent...your child comes first...everything...and I mean everything...else comes second.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

and shouldn't a guy with a hammy so hurt that he has to miss a game be staying home and off his feet instead of hitting the night club scene? i wonder if Giants management is thinking about that...

[ceeps04]

This plax thing is a head scratcher, but I need to hear more concrete information about what happened before I make a judgement on it. But my initial thoughts are that he is just a fucking idiot and always has been and probably shot himself in a keystone copesque way.

However I will be at the game tomorrow and I hope that this nonsense does not fucking distract the Giants. Beat the Skins and get 1 step closer to clinching the division. Just an FYI its gonna be a fucking downpoiur and cold as shit. I hope Jacobs plays and just runs the Redskins into submission. So that I can break out the broomstick I will have for the Sweep!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

The question remains...why [was] he...carrying a gun in a night club anyways?after cutting out the nonsense, I agree. It's a Friday night, your wife and young son are home. Fucking saddle the couch and pop in a fucking movie. Or, if you're going out and want to be armed....spend the extra money and hire a posse to carry for you dopey

...all black people are scum.Word is bond son! Word is bond :action-sm

And that Brian Dawkins killed Sean Taylor.Please, you know Dawk would have shot Portis instead...fucking offense


I'm assuming that he grazed himself with the bullet like an ass because he doesn't have proper pistol saftey knowledge. Like I said above, hire someone to fucking watch your back instead....or just don't go out when you're married with children. Sucks, but he will definitely face some criminal charges. Outside of the personal "I hope he's okay" stuff, Plax is apparently cashing in all of his good-will chits with the franchise immediately. There were reports that he's been fined 50+ times by the team, the suspensions, and now this stupid firearms discharge. Thank CHRIST this isn't the fucking NBA where we'd be stuck with his goddamned contract after we cut him come February. Sorry Plax, you've been a great player for the Giants, but they don't put up for this type of nonsense. Accident or not, fuck around with firearms in the motherfucking OFFSEASON.



























Someone remind me to put Hixon in my starting line-up tomorrow....

[iSpeakEloquent]

askew is right for the most part except for one thing. He has a wife and young kid. As a responsible parent he should be home. He makes millions upon millions to play football, he is injured at the moment, he should be resting his injuries instead of partying at a club so he can rightfully earn that money he is being given. Also if he ignores the first 2 and goes anyway, u make millions, hire a fuckin bodyguard.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Good idea as to who should be the NFL MVP...
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/01/31/sports/31giants.600.jpg (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/How-about-Giants-O-line-as-NFL-MVPs-?urn=nfl,125500)


clearly it'd never happen, but it's a very valid arguement

[JPetrucci23]

Apparently, Pierce tried to hide the gun and he could be facing some problems now as well. Lovely.

[WhiskeyWhispers]

Wow he had an expired license from Florida and dummy Pierce tried to hide the gun. Keep sticking up for this bozo:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2008/11/29/2008-11-29_giants_receiver_plaxico_burress_accident.html

Oh and I'll also add that this wouldn't happen to Tiki Barber, Donovan McNabb, Brian Westbrook, and loads of other black athletes. Burress is a fucking idiot, I never liked the guy. He's a great receiver, so what? He doesn't get a free pass to be an arrogant ghetto ass tough guy.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Apparently, Pierce tried to hide the gun and he could be facing some problems now as well. Lovely.

Hixon can fill in more than adequately, if not better than, Burress. At least he's shown that this season. Blackburn is a nice player, a hell of a special teamer, but I'm not so sure how I feel about him being the starting middle linebacker for the duration of a suspension :icon_conf



this sucks, 10-1 with no problems in site and this fucking nonsense happens. Shit like this is only supposed to happen to the Cowboys or Raiders or some cockbag franchise like that :arrrh: :arrrh:

[Steam]

I love all the Fathers of the Year on here who say "He should be home with his kid, maaaan". Come on. The guy is doing what the vast majority of us would be doing, taking some time to hang out with teammates. I'm sure he spent enough quality time with the kid during the holiday and just wanted a chance to hang out, especially since it was most likely after the kid's bed time to begin with.

Yes, it was fucking stupid to shoot himself in the leg. Yes, it was fucking stupid for that dolt Pierce to try and cover it up. But its not like he pulled a Ray Lewis here. Lets let the facts come out, let the disciplinary actions take effect and move on with our lives.

[BCH]

going shopping.. I'm thinking hot bean dip and guacamole with chips and wings from the local place. I'll have to pick up some Marie's too as the blue cheese from the wing shop is kinda thin. Putting more heinys in the fridge too. the family's on notice as well. I love conference games.

[Aizazzle]

http://deadspin.com/5100052/your-plaxico-burress-self+inflicted-gunshot-wound-update

So a few more details seem to be emerging about the bizarre "Plaxico shot himself at a club" story. The New York Post is now reporting that the incident took place just after midnight on Friday at a club called Latin Quarter in Manhattan, while Plax was out on the town with teammate Antonio Pierce. I suggest you read the rest of the story with the Benny Hill theme playing in the background:

Yes, do try it, this is fantastic.

[JPetrucci23]

Holy inactives, batman!

GIANTS
K Lawrence Tynes
WR Plaxico Burress
CB Sam Madison
RB Ahmad Bradshaw
LB Jonathan Goff
T Adam Koets
DE Jerome McDougle
DT Fred Robbins

Robbins out is huge. Also, London Fletcher is active for the Skins.

[iSpeakEloquent]

Wow he had an expired license from Florida and dummy Pierce tried to hide the gun. Keep sticking up for this bozo:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2008/11/29/2008-11-29_giants_receiver_plaxico_burress_accident.html

Oh and I'll also add that this wouldn't happen to Tiki Barber, Donovan McNabb, Brian Westbrook, and loads of other black athletes. Burress is a fucking idiot, I never liked the guy. He's a great receiver, so what? He doesn't get a free pass to be an arrogant ghetto ass tough guy.

plax is an idiot but mcnabb and barber aren't?

u mean mcnabb who publicly admits he doesn't know the rules of his profession after doing it for 10 years. If that was me i would get fired. You mean barber who called a woman a cunt on national tv or the barber that was such a detriment to the team that they won a super bowl after he retired. I'll take 100 plaxicos then 1 mcnabb or any barber....except maybe rondae

[WhiskeyWhispers]

plax is an idiot but mcnabb and barber aren't?

u mean mcnabb who publicly admits he doesn't know the rules of his profession after doing it for 10 years. If that was me i would get fired. You mean barber who called a woman a cunt on national tv or the barber that was such a detriment to the team that they won a super bowl after he retired. I'll take 100 plaxicos then 1 mcnabb or any barber....except maybe rondae


No I mean they won't be going to clubs flashing money and jewelry and packing a gun and shooting themselves in the leg. The man is a fool. Everyone on the Espn gameshow, including 4 black guys, all concur. The guy has always been a problem, even back in his days with Pittsburgh. I don't want him on my team. Plain and simple.

[Steam]

Very nice drive capped by a sweet TD by the old man Toomer. Keep it up, fucking stick it to this shitbag team and bury them for the year.

[BCH]

W00t! Wow, 2 really well thrown balls in a row. Yay Eli!

Yum! Bean Dip!

[Ballbuster1]

That was a great drive with alot of passing considering the rainy conditions.

Washington is in trouble if they let that continue.

[Steam]

Yum! Bean Dip!

All your food talk is making me jealous. One of these days I'll have to wake up early enough to find motivation to get some good wings and the like. Instead I'm stuck eating the remainder of my 30 inch Roast Beef grinder. No, I couldn't make that gayer if I tried.

[BCH]

boy that kid can tackle. He's a keeper.

[Steam]

How many fucking times are we going to be stuck listening to this same broadcasting team? Siragusa has to be the fucking worst analyst in football. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FAT FUCKING ZILCH!!!

[BCH]

Nice stand by the skins. They tighten up on a short field. They've got to get Jacobs going.

O'Hara's coming back. <<---- Look! 2 apostrophes in one word!

[Steam]

Nice stand by the skins. They tighten up on a short field. They've got to get Jacobs going.

O'Hara's coming back. <<---- Look! 2 apostrophes in one word!

I was hoping they'd go back to Jacobs after he basically tripped up on first and goal. Oh well, at least Eli played it smart.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

things looking good so far. the defense is shutting down Portis and Washington can't get much of an offense going. they're keeping a lot of the Giants' running game in check, but Eli is making up for it in the air. good to see O'Hara's fine, and a nice gain by Ward there.

[BCH]

I'm guessing Portis has a concussion. I hope he's ok.

Nope looks like his neck.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

beautiful midfield catch by Toomer. he looks fired up. and it sounds like there's many Giants fans in the crowd because it gets surprisingly loud every time they get a big play.

[BCH]

that pass to smith was closer than it looked to me. It looked like it bounced 3 feet in front of him.

Giants need a big strike here before that half. That would be nice.

Edit: Wow, they called it a catch after review

[Steam]

What a fucking terrible idea by Ward there and it costs them a chance to put up some additional points that it looks like they could use.

[BCH]

The fuckin marker was right there too. dumbass.

Wide Right. Thank god.

That was a real clusterfuck there. Let's hope Tom lays into them halftime.

[thetick130]

Damn, I hope they don't slip up after the half.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

in a situation like that, you have to go for the first down. you've got timeouts, forget going out of bounds to stop the clock. Ward should have lowered his shoulder and gone for it.

[BCH]

wow lucky. Where was he going with that pass?

[Budyzir]

Nice run by Jacobs. I was waiting for him to get some.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Jacobs had a huge hole on that run. they NEED to get in the endzone and put this game out of reach and more holes like that will help.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Jacobs in for the TD.

[BCH]

nice. Now they gotta slam the door hard on defense.

[Earth2murf]

fuckinh BOSS

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Ross gets a pick! the momentum seems to be going in the Giants' way right now.

[BCH]

Wow, the Redskins have discovered a great alternative to punting.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Redskins went for it on 4th down, but they got stuffed. fucking beautiful.

[BCH]

Jacobs grinding now. This is good.

[Papagolash]

In your dead face Sean Taylor!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Giants win again.

[ChrisH]

Best start (11-1) in franchise history. Awesome! And to get such a huge win, against a divsion rival with all the Plax (and Pierce) crap going on shows just how focused and professional this team is.

Don't know if anyone else heard this but the Fox announcers said that Plax's attorney told the AP (it's gotta be true!) that he will be charged with criminal possession of a weapon, and that he will turn himself in tomorrow morning. It is NOT looking good for Plax. My guess is that Pierce will roll 100% to keep his job/stay out of jail, and that Plax will be suspended.

[EarthCrisis]

What happened? The turdskins and their fans acted like they won the superbowl on their sole touchdown.

GOOOOOO GIANTS!

[iSpeakEloquent]

How many fucking times are we going to be stuck listening to this same broadcasting team? Siragusa has to be the fucking worst analyst in football. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FAT FUCKING ZILCH!!!

ill take any team that has kenny albert over any team that has joe buck and troy aikman. maybe if the giants suck again they can go back to having sam rosen every week

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I only got to watch the 4th quarter, but what I saw was beautiful (unfortunately I watched it because the Rangers were sucking at life). 11-1 with 4 games left...next week is it, division title on the line at home against the Eagles :D

In your dead face Sean Taylor!

hahahahahaha

[Jimmy's Dignity]

My friend Dave apparently was in the right place at the right time...


http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7500/plaxcuffedgv9.jpg

there he goes in cuffs :icon_conf

Giants WR Burress charged on 2 felony weapon counts, released (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3736356)

NEW YORK -- New York Giants star receiver Plaxico Burress was charged with two counts of felony possession of a weapon in the second degree Monday and released on a $100,000 bond.

Burress, who accidentally shot himself Friday night in the right thigh at a Manhattan nightclub, did not enter a plea, though his attorney said Burress planned to plead not guilty.

Manhattan Criminal Court Judge Felicia Mennin ordered Burress to return March 31.

Defense lawyer Benjamin Brafman argued for no bail, saying: "He has 35 million reasons to come back to court" -- referring to Burress' $35 million contract with the Giants.

Prosecutors also released a criminal complaint that provides a witness account from the club where Burress shot himself, the Latin Quarter.

A witness heard a popping sound before Burress' legs began to shake. It says the person saw a bloody pistol fall out of his pant leg and land on the floor.

A grand jury will hear evidence and make a decision on whether Burress will be indicted. Illegal possession of a firearm carries a sentence of 3½ to 15 years in jail..

Police escorted Burress out of a midtown Manhattan police station in handcuffs earlier Monday, placing him in a car in which he was taken downtown for booking and his court appearance.

Burress arrived to the 17th Precinct station shortly after 8 a.m. ET in a black Cadillac Escalade wearing jeans and a black coat.

Burress was silent but held his head high as he was led out of the police station, where a crowd that included Giants fans hovered nearby with cell phone cameras. He was not visibly limping.

Burress had a concealed-weapon permit issued to him in Florida but records show it expired in May and New York does not recognize out-of-state permits anyway, New York media have reported.

"He is standing tall. He is a mature adult," his lawyer, Benjamin Brafman said. "I think any professional athlete in this situation would be concerned."

The episode set off a frenzy that showed no signs of letting up Monday: Police said the case could expand beyond Burress, with authorities investigating Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce and whether the hospital Burress checked into failed to report the shooting. The NFL is closely monitoring the developments as well.

According to the New York Post, the hospital, the New York-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center, failed to report the gunshot as required by law after hospital personnel recognized Burress, despite his checking in under a fake name -- Harris Smith.

He also told the hospital he'd been shot at an Applebee's restaurant, the Post reported, citing unnamed sources.

A more detailed timeline of the evening also emerged. Police said Pierce, Burress and running back Derrick Ward arrived at the club with two other people around 11:30 p.m. Friday.

Burress had been allowed to bypass security, even though they knew he was armed, according to a law enforcement official who spoke with The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. The club is said to be fully cooperating in the investigation.

Around 12:05 a.m., as Burress was being escorted to a VIP area with a drink in one hand, he somehow ended up fumbling his gun and it discharged, hitting his thigh. Pierce was with him when that occurred, police said.

It's believed Pierce took Burress to the car and then left with him, according to police. The .40-caliber Glock was found in the glove compartment of Pierce's Cadillac Escalade, but it's unclear who put the weapon there.

Police are trying to figure out what happened in the two hours that followed. Burress showed up at the hospital around 2:20 a.m, and was discharged at 1 p.m. Saturday.

Police said they had to track Burress down by canvassing local hospitals, and he had been discharged from New York-Presbyterian by the time detectives got there Saturday. An administrator then refused to give detectives information, citing privacy rules, police said.

The gun was eventually recovered at Burress' house in New Jersey, authorities said.

Pierce was interviewed by NFL security at the Giants' hotel Saturday in Washington, Giants general manager Jerry Reese said.

Police and NFL security were also probing whether there was a third Giants player who was present or involved, at the very least for gathering more information on the incident, sources told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen on Sunday.

The New York Daily News has reported that Pierce tried to hide Burress' gun.

"Antonio is working on trying to beat the Redskins right now," Reese said before Sunday's 23-7 victory at Washington. "That's where his focus is and where it should be right now."

Pierce deflected several questions after the game. He wouldn't say whether he has a lawyer and when asked if he is concerned about his own situation, Pierce replied only: "No. I'm fine where I'm at.

"I am not answering any questions about the incident that happened Friday night. If you have anything to say about the Washington Redskins, this game and moving forward, I'll answer it. Anything else, I'm not answering."

Ward said he wasn't with Burress on Friday night, and learned of the shooting on Saturday along with other teammates. He said the last time he saw Burress was "that afternoon [Friday], right after practice."

Asked if he would say where he was Friday night, Ward said: "It doesn't really matter where I was. It just matters that I wasn't with them."

The case drew the wrath of Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who has waged a long fight against illegal guns during his time in office. He called for a full prosecution of state law that requires mandatory prison for carrying a loaded handgun.

"I don't think anybody should be exempt from that, and I think it would be an outrage if we didn't prosecute to the fullest extent of the law, particularly people who live in the public domain, make their living because of their visibility -- they're the role models for our kids," Bloomberg said.

He also lashed out at the hospital, based on the allegation that officials may not have properly reported the shooting.

"It's just an outrage that the hospital didn't do what they were legally required to do. It's a misdemeanor, it's a chargeable offense, and I think the district attorney should certainly go after the management of this hospital. The lame excuse that they didn't know -- this is a world-class hospital," he said.

A call to the hospital seeking comment was not immediately returned.

Brafman refused to respond to media reports about an alleged coverup, other than to say: "I think a lot of what's been in the press is not accurate."

Brafman said Burress is feeling OK.

"If they let him play, he will be able to play," Brafman said. "I think he will be a superstar for the rest of his career."

"My hope is that it plays out well and he can continue his career, because he's a good person I think, with a brilliant athletic career. And it would be a terrible sadness if an isolated incident could ruin a life," Brafman said.

The NFL is monitoring the case.

"This is a law enforcement matter and we are continuing to cooperate fully with the police," league spokesman Greg Aiello said in a statement. "In addition, it will be reviewed under our league policies."

Brafman met with Burress for about an hour Sunday at the player's home in New Jersey.

"I would ask that his fans, the Giants and the media withhold judgment in this matter until all of the facts have been disclosed," Brafman said in an earlier e-mail to the AP.

Brafman is a well-known criminal lawyer who has defended mobsters and other high-profile figures, including hip-hop impresario Sean "Diddy" Combs on a bribery and gun possession charge in 2001.

Giants running back Brandon Jacobs said he spoke to Burress on the phone after Sunday's game.

"I called him and made a few jokes about the situation and his laugh is what I wanted to hear," Jacobs said, according to Newsday. "If he didn't laugh I knew he was going to be down, which he shouldn't be down. It's a mistake that happened, something that shouldn't have happened and that's that."

Before the shooting, Burress already had been ruled out of the game because of a leg injury.

Giants coach Tom Coughlin said he spoke to his players about Burress' situation but wouldn't get into specifics.

"We all are upset about what happened with Plaxico, and hopefully he's going to be fine and so on and so forth. That's our first concern," Coughlin said. "Once that was taken care of, we knew that he was OK, then the guys got right back to focusing on the reason we were here."

Coughlin wouldn't address Burress' future with the Giants, saying only, "Questions of that nature will be discussed going forward, I'm sure."

The team is considering placing Burress on the non-football injury reserved list, which would make him ineligible for the remainder of the season, sources told Mortensen. It also would allow the Giants to recover some money already paid to Burress.

Additionally, a source told Mortensen that Burress has as much as $4.5 million tied to play-time incentives and active-roster status.

Burress caught the go-ahead touchdown pass in the Giants' Super Bowl victory against the New England Patriots in February, following a regular season in which he scored a career-high 12 TDs. He was rewarded with a $35 million, five-year contract, only hours before the current season.

Burress has 35 catches for 454 yards and four touchdowns while constantly drawing double coverage this season.

"I don't think people understand how good of a person he really is," fellow receiver Amani Toomer said after catching a 40-yard touchdown pass in the Giants' victory Sunday. "A good heart. I think he's a good guy."

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

if Bloomberg is getting in on it, jail time for Plax looks almost inevitable now. i don't think he'll get the 15-year max though, maybe the 3.5 minimum. he's pleading not guilty, but we don't know how Plax will try to plead. maybe he'll say he wasn't aware of the gun laws in NYC and forgot that his Florida license had expired, but that's gonna be a weak argument and i don't see any NYC judge buying it since ignorance of the law is no excuse and he should be more attentative to the expiration dates of his licenses. he might also say he was feeling threatened since he's a high-profile personality who could be a target for angry fans of opposing teams, which makes him look more sympathetic. whatever happens, things obviously ain't looking good for him.

[JPetrucci23]

Plax is out on bail/bond, and the Giants have reached out to him to inform him that they are requiring him to report to practice tomorrow. Shockingly, he hasn't responded to them yet.

[BCH]

Oh Stop Michael Bloomberg. It's a legal weapon, registered to him, being carried illegally, not a gun he bought on the street, and it wasn't used in the commission of a crime. Let's come back to reality asshole. Holy shit that fucking faggot annoys me.

[SKANE]

First off, I agree. Bloomberg is an annoying, self important, change the rule to fit me, rich, arrogant man.
Everything I've heard says the gun was not registered in NY, whether or not he bought it in a Wal-mart or on the street it is still illegal to carry said weapon into a night club in Manhattan. Firing a weapon in NYC is a commission of a crime as much as I disagree with that having to spend so much time in the 100's. What if he accidentally shot someone else. Say Antonio Pierce? Something that could actually effect the Giants repeating? Fuck Plax. He's a problem. Go to jail. We will feel it on the field but will be better off without him in the long run. Shockey, Barber etc.

[BCH]

Yeah, I'm not saying carrying to the "club" wasn't a criminal act in and of itself but let's not make him out to be O.J. Simpson going to get his memorabilia back. That's all I'm sayin' really.

[SKANE]

Whats funny is if he didn't have all the problems he has had in the past I'd be willing to cut him some slack. But when he says he doesn't have to show up for meetings, or is late for practice without calling and just says just fine me that attitude is me first and fuck everybody else. If he was a team player he would have more support.
I've been a Giant fan for a long time and I hope he never plays another down for the Giants. Domenik Hixon!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

All the fines and whatnot are where/why I wouldn't be surprised if Dopey had played his last down with the Giants. He's got a roster bonus due a week from tomorrow (Dec. 10th) of $1 million. If they put him on the non-football injury list, I think that would prevent him from getting it. I didn't hear/see what Bloomberg said, but I heard Skip Assholeface on ESPN's reaction and he though Bloomberg was wrong.

One other thing that pisses me off about this is everyone is calling it a shooting. A shooting is "I'm aiming/pointing this thing at you and firing." This is an accidental discharge if I've ever heard of one. He was trying to unload the weapon, dropped it like it was a pass on 3rd & 15, and it wound up going off. Asshats. Shootings are what Pacman Jones gets involved with; Rae Carrutth; OJ in Vegas (almost). This is just Cartman with a gun

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n269/saw138104/Talking-Retard-Cartman1.gif

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Btw, I don't know if you guys realized, but Steve Smith was robbed at gunpoint on Thanksgiving (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3739206)

[Perch1019]

Oh Stop Michael Bloomberg. It's a legal weapon, registered to him, being carried illegally, not a gun he bought on the street, and it wasn't used in the commission of a crime. Let's come back to reality asshole. Holy shit that fucking faggot annoys me.

So what would have happened if when he dropped the gun it shot some innocent person in the head and killed them? Would that make the gun anymore illegal?
The Reg of the gun was up, there is a no-carry in NYC law. I think Bloomberg is an ass too but with cops and kids getting shot all the time, he makes a valid point. Why should Plax skate just cause hes a sports figure and it just so happened that he shot himself?
The reality is that this moron was carrying a gun around illegally with him while he was drinking in a NYC nightclub.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

ESPN NFL Power Rankings: Week 14 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=14)


(1) New York Giants
(2) Tennessee Titans
(4) Pittsburgh Steelers
(5) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(7) Carolina Panthers
(6) Indianapolis Colts
(3) New York Jets
(9) Dallas Cowboys
(10) Atlanta Falcons
(13) Baltimore Ravens
(8) New England Patriots
(11) Arizona Cardinals
(12) Washington Redskins
(19) Denver Broncos
(17) Minnesota Vikings
(14) Miami Dolphins
(21) Philadelphia Eagles
(16) New Orleans Saints
(15) Chicago Bears
(20) Green Bay Packers
(18) Buffalo Bills
(23) Houston Texans
(22) San Diego Chargers
(24) Jacksonville Jaguars
(27) San Francisco 49ers
(25) Cleveland Browns
(31) Kansas City Chiefs
(26) Oakland Raiders
(28) Seattle Seahawks
(29) St. Louis Rams
(30) Cincinnati Bengals
(32) Detroit Lions

[WarshCloth]

One other thing that pisses me off about this is everyone is calling it a shooting. A shooting is "I'm aiming/pointing this thing at you and firing." This is an accidental discharge if I've ever heard of one. He was trying to unload the weapon, dropped it like it was a pass on 3rd & 15, and it wound up going off. Asshats. Shootings are what Pacman Jones gets involved with; Rae Carrutth; OJ in Vegas (almost). This is just Cartman with a gun

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n269/saw138104/Talking-Retard-Cartman1.gif


Uh no...

If this was an accidental discharge he wouldnt have gone home before the hospital, wouldnt have given the gun to his MLB, wouldnt have tried to coverup the shotting (by having the hospital not report it)

IF you ask the accused, its never as bad as it was...Im sure if you asked OJ he woulda said "no...its a scrape on the neck" not a beheading.

The guy broke the law...now he must pay...

Luckily the Giants are pure class so he's gone

[JPetrucci23]

Plax is done for the year. Giants have suspended him for the final 4 games and placed him on NFI list. His Giants career is over.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/12/new_york_giants_suspend_burres.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/12/plaxico-burress-suspended-four.html

http://www.giants.com/ <---- there too

heres the perm link for when its not the main story:

http://www.giants.com/news/headlines/story.asp?story_id=32599

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://www.primocaps.com/retail/nfl/Reebok/Aftershock/RBAF01GI.jpghttp://ipac.jpl.nasa.gov/media_images/ssc2005-26b_small.jpg

[Steam]

That sucks. Well they won without Tiki, they're winning without Strahan and Osi, hopefully they can continue to win without Plax.

[BCH]

Andrew's moving to the Giants Hat Galaxy?

[ceeps04]

I might be in the minority here, but I liked Plax. I always stood up for him when Cowboy fans were trying to make comparisons to T.O. and how he was being a distraction this year, etc...But when that dude stepped between the lines he was a motherfucker to cover.

His performance last year in Green Bay in the 5 degree weather was one of the greatest single game performances by a WR in a playoff game I have ever seen. Just for that game he will be one of my favorite Giant WR's ever. I'm gonna miss you Plax. Too bad you are a dumb fucking ******.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Andrew's moving to the Giants Hat Galaxy?
cap space ;p
I might be in the minority here, but I liked Plax. I always stood up for him when Cowboy fans were trying to make comparisons to T.O. and how he was being a distraction this year, etc...But when that dude stepped between the lines he was a motherfucker to cover.

His performance last year in Green Bay in the 5 degree weather was one of the greatest single game performances by a WR in a playoff game I have ever seen. Just for that game he will be one of my favorite Giant WR's ever. I'm gonna miss you Plax. Too bad you are a dumb fucking ******.
No, I liked Plax too...just pissed off at him for being a fucking dopey asshole

[JPetrucci23]

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/12/new_york_giants_fill_burress_r.html

Plaxico Burress' roster spot has already been filled.

The Giants signed DT Leger Douzable off their own practice squad. The 6-4, 305-pound Douzable was an undrafted free agent with the Vikings this season and was cut at the end of training camp. The Giants signed him to their practice squad in September.

The Giants also announced OT Na'Shan Goddard has been signed off their practice squad by the Seahawks. Former Rutgers OL Mike Fladell and WR Micah Rucker (Eastern Illinois) were signed. That still leaves a practice squad spot open because the team signed DT Jeremy Clark off its practice squad on Saturday. I was told they had signed CB Travonti Johnson, but I'm not sure why that wasn't announced. I'll check to see what's going on there.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Leger Douzable? Classic American name right there...

[Jimmy's Dignity]

oh hey, look at this! Eli Manning: NFC Offensive Player of the Month (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/12/eli-manning-nfc-offensive-play.html)

[JPetrucci23]

oh hey, look at this! Eli Manning: NFC Offensive Player of the Month (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/12/eli-manning-nfc-offensive-play.html)

beat me to it. congrats Eli! Believe it or not, he has a shot at MVP.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

He does, but I'd give it to Kurt Warner over Eli right now. Although if he comes back and runs wild in these next few games, I still think Jacobs could put a legit claim to it.....but in a perfect world the MVP goes to the Giants OL

[JPetrucci23]

He does, but I'd give it to Kurt Warner over Eli right now. Although if he comes back and runs wild in these next few games, I still think Jacobs could put a legit claim to it.....but in a perfect world the MVP goes to the Giants OL

I read an article that the Giants OL actually CAN win it, a unit is allowed to win the MVP award.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I read an article that the Giants OL actually CAN win it, a unit is allowed to win the MVP award.http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/12/3/128728113912393075.jpg http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/12/3/128728114604539479.jpg


That would be fucking sweet. Someone should start a grassroots campaign...

[WarshCloth]

Can you post a link to that article? That really would be sweet...although I mean its hard to say the O-line, I mean the defense has been fantastic too...

But I remember when they drafted Snee and everyone said "way to give your son in a law a break" lol him and Diehl were amazing picks...

[Jimmy's Dignity]

The doctor who helped out Plax isn't too bad...kinda stereotypical Jewish doctor, but I'd still hit it


http://www.nypost.com/seven/12032008/photos/news005.jpg
but then again, that's because I need to get laid


Being....Plaxico Burress' thigh (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=brain/081201)

[JPetrucci23]

Can you post a link to that article? That really would be sweet...although I mean its hard to say the O-line, I mean the defense has been fantastic too...

But I remember when they drafted Snee and everyone said "way to give your son in a law a break" lol him and Diehl were amazing picks...

I don't have it, but I'll look for it. If I find it, i'll post it.


edit - this isn't the article I read, but its an article that states the fact that an offensive line can win it as a unit.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/articles/2008/11/30/new_line_of_thought_on_mvp/

[JPetrucci23]

THe NFLPA is appealing the Burress punishment.

[iSpeakEloquent]

THe NFLPA is appealing the Burress punishment.

thats what they do

[Earth2murf]

http://www.nypost.com/delonas/2008/12/12042008.jpg

[Palerider4146]

The doctor who helped out Plax isn't too bad...kinda stereotypical Jewish doctor, but I'd still hit it


http://www.nypost.com/seven/12032008/photos/news005.jpg
but then again, that's because I need to get laid


Being....Plaxico Burress' thigh (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=brain/081201)

Is this the doctor from the hospital that treated him???

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Is this the doctor from the hospital that treated him???

Yeah. She's not fully "affiliated" with the hospital, but that was the doctor who treated him

Article showing/pondering the "inaccuracies" of the story (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2008/12/03/2008-12-03_police_probe_giants_for_delay_of_game_in.html)
Burress could face 3-1/2 to 15 years in prison if convicted of criminal possession of a weapon, though his lawyers will likely seek a plea bargain with no jail time and the possibility of saving his football career.

According to the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services, in 2007, 986 people in the city were convicted after initially being arrested on the charge Burress faces. More than half - 446 - walked away with misdemeanors or less.

[JPetrucci23]

His Giants career is not necessarily over:

Without going into detail, Reese said the Giants’ front office was on the same page about Burress’s possible future with the Giants — namely that he had one — provided he was not in jail and provided he had a 180-degree attitude adjustment.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/sports/football/04rhoden.html?_r=2&ref=sports

[Jimmy's Dignity]

haha, I saw this on BBI....

http://www.complex.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/osi-at-the-club.jpg

Osi's bitches got some big dumpers. I call dibs on the high yellah' one on the far right

[askewcore]

According to the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services, in 2007, 986 people in the city were convicted after initially being arrested on the charge Burress faces. More than half - 446 - walked away with misdemeanors or less.

Good news.

Osi's bitches got some big dumpers. I call dibs on the high yellah' one on the far right

This is what you're SUPPOSED to do at a club, not hang around with AP with a glock in your pants. Oh yeah, I'll take the left. I like me the ebony princesses', plus, I could probably my my whole head between them buttcheecks.

[iSpeakEloquent]

yea i mean i hope everyone realized the giants inactivated him for the rest of the season more cuz of the bullet wound then the legal trouble. He would've been out for the rest of the season anyway

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yea i mean i hope everyone realized the giants inactivated him for the rest of the season more cuz of the bullet wound then the legal trouble. He would've been out for the rest of the season anyway

yeah, he was going to be out 4-6 weeks with the bullet wound, and that's not including the strained hamstring as well

[righty]

Gonna be a good one today and i'm kinda glad i'm not gonna be at the game. It's gonna be windy and cold. "LET'S GO GIANTS"

[JPetrucci23]

Inactives:


K Lawrence Tynes
RB Danny Ware
CB Sam Madison
OL Adam Koets
DT Jeremy Clark
DT Leger Douzable
DE Jerome McDougle
LB Jonathan Goff


KICK SOME EAGLE ASS!!!!!!!!

[Ronreddog]

Big Blue clinches the division today, after they destroy the Iggles today. Fucking Tampa area is giving us the Falcons/Saints game instead, due to geography.

Sometimes it sucks to be an out-of-state Giants fan. May have to hit the bar for a few hours, like I haven't done enough of that this weekend. :rolleyes:

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Yeah, if I were you, I'd get my ass to a bar :D :drunk:

Cannot wait to stamp them out and get this division wrapped up. Toss in Pittsburgh winning later today and I think that wraps up a bye too. Oh they said that Westbrook is playing even though he didn't practice earlier this week

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Oh boy...we get Goose, Moose & Kenny Albert. Which means Troy & Fagboy are calling the Cowboys game.
25-35 mph winds at the Stadium today :icon_eek:

Moss! I'm impressed, good return. Nice run to start w/ Jacobs too

[Tax Kuntz]

Cannot wait to stamp them out and get this division wrapped up. Toss in Pittsburgh winning later today and I think that wraps up a bye too.


Just a win gives them the bye, no other help needed

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Eh...the reverse is a decent call against an aggressive defense, but the blitz absolutely blew up the play. Boo dead duck. If the wind's that bad though, this is going to be an interesting game

[Steam]

Oh boy...we get Goose, Moose & Kenny Albert. Which means Troy & Fagboy are calling the Cowboys game.


We are always stuck listening to these faggots. Just seeing that asshole Siragusa before the game talking about his conversation with Eli Manning made me want to smash my tv. He's so fucking useless.

Need the offense to step this shit up.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Fuck, Hixon has to catch that goddamned pass. And why in the name of God do they insist on throwing the ball to Hedgecock?

[Steam]

And why in the name of God do they insist on throwing the ball to Hedgecock?

He's still living off the euphoria of that touchdown against the Cardinals.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

ugh. How the fuck do you let him just hurdle the line like that?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Christ do we need a fucking turnover here. Looks like Curtis is concussed...

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Ratfuck.

[Steam]

They are just being made to look fucking stupid by the feet of the Eagles. How many fucking tackles could they have gotten on each of Smith's catches and on that Westbrook run?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

drop the ball more, please.

[Steam]

If they keep playing like this I can't wait for the inevitable "They need Plax", and "Too many distractions" stories from the wonderful media.

[Steam]

What a fucking turn of events there all caused by Justin Tuck's giant fucking meat hook.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Holy fuck YES!!! What a fucking play, we needed that something vicious. Tuck fucking rules

Hopefully we get a stop to start the 2nd half and the momentum builds :D

[JPetrucci23]

holy FUUUUUUCK WAS THAT HUGE!!!!!! i just lost my voice hahahahaha

[Steam]

That's the kind of shit that a championship team needs once in a while. Hopefully, they use that and don't come out of the second half gates so fucking sloppy.

Coughlin still needs to ream out the offense for their case of the Braylons.

[Glenn Dandy]

lucky bastards..on that block... don't fret NY fans McSuck with give you the game soon enough.

[righty]

Holy fuck the Giants so needed that and the first half drove me fucking crazy until that block field goal. i think that will give them momentum in the 2nd half. "LETS GO GIANTS"

[Jimmy's Dignity]

lucky bastards..on that block... don't fret NY fans McSuck with give you the game soon enough.

it's still fucking weird to think/know that this is the last time we'll play McNabb in Eagles green

[righty]

oh i can't fucking stand darly johnston and his so against the Giants commentary.

[FullBallz]

It is fucking freezing here. I'm going back for the 2nd half. I just spent 35 minutes in the bathroom getting warm. Holy shit do I hate wind.

That TD better wake them up. The fans too. Its top quiet here.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

we need a fucking stop or a turnover here. I cannot believe that we haven't gotten a sack yet

[righty]

come on fucking defense you gotta stop them

[righty]

big stop for the d and of course negative from Johnston and nice block on the field goal again. GO GIANTS

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

finally the Giants get on the board. it was tough to watch for a while there.

oh no, Jacobs is down.

[Steam]

Hahaha, Lake Hiawatha, nice. Welcome to the Kingdom, Baseball Card Kingdom.

Another big play by the special teams but they need the offense and defense to step it up in order to put themselves into position for this victory.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

needed that fucking blocked kick something huge. Good job by Thomas. Hopefully Jacobs isn't really injured

[righty]

Yeah Glenn i didnt like to see him down fuck

[righty]

Hahaha, Lake Hiawatha, nice. Welcome to the Kingdom, Baseball Card Kingdom.

Another big play by the special teams but they need the offense and defense to step it up in order to put themselves into position for this victory.

What wrong with Lake Hiawatha? was that a dig at me

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Christ the Eagles offensive line is kicking our ass. Man...Tuck almost had him right there

[Steam]

What wrong with Lake Hiawatha? was that a dig at me

Just noticed it in your location and had to do my standard line that I think of every time I see or hear the name. Only thing I ever knew about Lake Hiawatha.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

the running game doesn't seen to be getting anything done. Jacobs and Ward had some big gains, but the G-Men have only found the endzone once all day. and the wind is wreaking havoc on the air game.

[Steam]

The third-down conversions are really killing the team. What the fuck is wrong with them?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Fucking atrocious.

[righty]

this game is driving me fucing crazy

[DocSavage]

run Westie run!

[DocSavage]

WHAT!? A flag for pointing up in the sky after a TD. Douche chills from the No FUn League.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Fucking insane. Why in the FUCK do you keep Pierce on him? He's not capable of fucking covering him

[righty]

does somebody wanted cover fucking Westbrook he s just running all over the Giants

[righty]

The Giants need to wake up

[Steam]

Just a fucking abysmal effort here.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Have they forgotten how to throw the ball short? Everything is deep with zero chance of success

[Jimmy's Dignity]

this is like that Washington game last year...brutal fucking winds, and all they're doing is throwing the ball again and again into it.

Ugh...the play calling has been shit today. 4th and 1, lets go trips wide shotgun instead of just running it up the gut. Fucking 'tarded

[Steam]

Here we go right now. Lets convert this shit.

[ChrisH]

What a goddammed shitshow.

[JPetrucci23]

and thats the ballgame folks. yuck! oh well. 14-2 instead of 15-1.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

and thats the ballgame folks. yuck! oh well. 14-2 instead of 15-1.

Does this mean I have to mildly root for the Cowboys to win against Pittsburgh, so that I get to see them clinch the division when I'm at the game next week in Dallas?

[Steam]

and thats the ballgame folks. yuck! oh well. 14-2 instead of 15-1.

I don't give a fuck about their final record just as long as they win the division and get home-field. The 86 team was 14-2 and the 90 team was 13-3. Just get the bye, home-field, and don't let this horrible effort stay in the system.

[ChrisH]

Fucking 11 of 12 third down conversions for the Eagles. Unbelievable.

[JPetrucci23]

Does this mean I have to mildly root for the Cowboys to win against Pittsburgh, so that I get to see them clinch the division when I'm at the game next week in Dallas?

no, you root for the steelers to win and have the giants clinch the division.

[ChrisH]

It's about fucking time they covered Weterbrook. Only fucking 2:58 left!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

figures...game's over and they get themselves a touchdown. And it's not to Hixon nor Jacobs so I get no fantasy benefit

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

if they expect to beat Dallas next week, then they better wake the fuck up. horrible play calling and a weak defensive effort lost them this game.

[Ronreddog]

Just got back from the sports bar, and what a difficult game to watch. If the Giants don't improve on converting 3rd downs, and preventing them on defense, we are going to be in trouble. Way too many 3rd down conversions by the Iggles, and no offensive support from our receivers.

Hixon needs to get his head out of his ass, that drop was one of the worse I have seen this season. The game could have been completely different, had he made that catch.

Disappointed Giants fan here today. :(

[Steam]

Just got back from the sports bar, and what a difficult game to watch. If the Giants don't improve on converting 3rd downs, and preventing them on defense, we are going to be in trouble. Way too many 3rd down conversions by the Iggles, and no offensive support from our receivers.

Hixon needs to get his head out of his ass, that drop was one of the worse I have seen this season. The game could have been completely different, had he made that catch.

Disappointed Giants fan here today. :(

Yeah, the dropped passes really hurt but regardless of that the defense couldn't fucking stop them on third down. And it wasn't just Westbrook either, fucking LJ Smith was baffling them.

They need to get back to form against Dallas in order to make sure they clinch a bye and home field. From there you can worry about putting things together for the playoffs and give guys some spot rest.

[ceeps04]

The Tom Coughlin Giants have always played better when their backs are against the wall or people are doubting them. All week people were saying "this team handles adversity well, so they will be fine."

In my opinion they bought into that. Didn't come out with the intensity and emotion needed to match the Eagles and their do or die situation and got bitched. They were too full of themselves here and in Cleveland and had their asses handed to them both times.

Now I hope they put their heads on straight and fucking go on a six game winning streak to end the season like they went on a 7 game streak after the Browns game...

[Steam]

Now I hope they put their heads on straight and fucking go on a six game winning streak to end the season like they went on a 7 game streak after the Browns game...

Hopefully that 7th win comes in the first week of next year's preseason.

[JPetrucci23]

ladies & gents...


2008 NFC EAST CHAMPS!!!!!!!!

[Steam]

Thank you Pittsburgh for at least ending this shitty day on a good note.

[Ronreddog]

ladies & gents...


2008 NFC EAST CHAMPS!!!!!!!!

Thank you Pittsburgh for at least ending this shitty day on a good note.

Yes, thank you to the Steelers for turning that game around. Now, the Giants have to bounce back and kick the Cowgirls ass next week, to make matters worse for them.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

*BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP*
http://www.integratedtransportllc.com/images/straight_truck.gif

I'll take it, next week we wrap up the bye week which we definitely need

[JPetrucci23]

*BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP*
http://www.integratedtransportllc.com/images/straight_truck.gif

I'll take it, next week we wrap up the bye week which we definitely need

I understand what you're saying.... but you don't back into the division title with an 11-2 record :)

it was a bad day, but maybe it was good in the long run. This will keep the team humble and grounded - it was a reality check. They weren't going to go 18-1. Anyway, last time they lost, they rattled off 7 straight wins. What would be the 7th win after this loss? Oh, a little game called the Super Bowl!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Giants win the NFC East, now i just hope no one else in the NFC East gets the Wild Card. i'd rather see the Panthers get than the Cowboys. i want that overrated piece of shit Romo's season to end early.

[JPetrucci23]

Game is on the line, 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Who do you want at the helm, Eli or Romo?





BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

[XMScott]

Dominated by the Eagles.

[BCH]

Dominated by the Eagles.

Haha you're in here chirpin'? You got your own problems. :action-sm

Bad day for New York football today. It's about time Tom got a chance to let off some steam. Let's hope it does some good. Some missed opportunities cost the G-Men big today and the Jets all of a sudden forgot how to tackle anybody.

*BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP*
http://www.integratedtransportllc.com/images/straight_truck.gif

Is that your Moving van to take you to the Giants Hat Galaxy Andrew?

[Ronreddog]

Dominated by the Eagles.

Really? Were they?

The Giants cost themselves the game, there was nothing spectacular the fucking Iggles did. They could not tackle today, and the receivers cost them some valuable first downs, and a potential touchdown if Hixon catches that deep pass.

Yeah, they were dominated, by their own miscues. It doesn't matter, the Iggles aren't going anywhere. :D

[BCH]

Really? Were they?

The Giants cost themselves the game, there was nothing spectacular the fucking Iggles did. They could not tackle today, and the receivers cost them some valuable first downs, and a potential touchdown if Hixon catches that deep pass.

Yeah, they were dominated, by their own miscues. It doesn't matter, the Iggles aren't going anywhere. :D

Well the Giants Time of Possesion was 38 seconds. That's being pretty dominated.

[iSpeakEloquent]

What would be the 7th win after this loss? Oh, a little game called the Super Bowl!

week 1 next season

Game is on the line, 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Who do you want at the helm, Eli or Romo?






i know we're giants fans so we're biased but wtf...anytime romo is in a big situation late in a game every pass is 20 feet over a head or 10 feet in front of him.

Dominated by the Eagles.

please tell me you aren't one of those people that think there is a rivalry between 2 teams that play each other once every 4 years? I watch the jets all the time and hope they do well, but if you want to start this....denver?.....9ers?......choke?

[JPetrucci23]

week 1 next season

good call, I stupidly counted this week in that.



i know we're giants fans so we're biased but wtf...anytime romo is in a big situation late in a game every pass is 20 feet over a head or 10 feet in front of him.

Romo is not a big time QB. He will put up the big numbers, but when the game is on the line he chokes, big time. This is nothing new. I would much rather have the clutch QB (Eli) than the big #'s QB (Romo).

[Steam]

please tell me you aren't one of those people that think there is a rivalry between 2 teams that play each other once every 4 years? I watch the jets all the time and hope they do well, but if you want to start this....denver?.....9ers?......choke?

I'm a Giants fan and I fucking hate the Jets. There is just something about the team and their fanbase that bugs me. The majority of the time I hate them more than the CowEagleSkins. If they were in the Superbowl with any of those teams I have no idea who I'd want to win. It would be the equivalent of the '86 World Series where my feeble little mind settled on the Red Sox.

That being said, the fact that someone came in here to taunt after their supposed Super Bowl contender lost to the 49ers a week after losing to a piss poor Denver team is pretty sad. Then again, it is the same fanbase that is enthralled that they can spell the team's name. Its the small victories, I guess.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yeah, I was gonna say something along those lines too...but figured you guys already nailed it down

[Aizazzle]

Yeah, they were dominated, by their own miscues. It doesn't matter, the Iggles aren't going anywhere. :D

I would like to respectfully disagree with you, sir. If the Eagles run the table, and the Falcons lose one game, then we are going to the playoffs.

Of course a little help might be nice from the Giants, if they can take care of the Cowpussies next week.

[iSpeakEloquent]

I'm a Giants fan and I fucking hate the Jets. There is just something about the team and their fanbase that bugs me. The majority of the time I hate them more than the CowEagleSkins. If they were in the Superbowl with any of those teams I have no idea who I'd want to win. It would be the equivalent of the '86 World Series where my feeble little mind settled on the Red Sox.

That being said, the fact that someone came in here to taunt after their supposed Super Bowl contender lost to the 49ers a week after losing to a piss poor Denver team is pretty sad. Then again, it is the same fanbase that is enthralled that they can spell the team's name. Its the small victories, I guess.

maybe it's your devils fan mentality of having to hate the big team down the block, but you're a giants fan, there is no reason to hate the jets. Even as a yanks fan i don't hate the mets, who cares, different division, different league. Plus most jets fans come from giants fans that couldn't get tickets back in the day anyway.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

This is the first time the Giants have won two division titles in a 4-year span since Fassel's guys won in 1997 & 2000. And this is the first time in franchise history that the Giants have made the postseason four consecutive seasons.


and apparently Jacobs & Ross are both okay. Jacobs' was just the knee that he banged up as per usual and Ross's x-rays came up negative

[Ronreddog]

Well the Giants Time of Possesion was 38 seconds. That's being pretty dominated.

The total Time of Possession was this:
Time of Possession Iggles 34:54 Giants 25:06

Yes, they did dominate the second half, again, because the Giants' defense was inept, not because the Iggles offense was stellar.

This is where the Giants also lost the game:
Total net yards Iggles 331 Giants 211

No offensive flow, and 4 to 5 dropped passes = Loss

I would like to respectfully disagree with you, sir. If the Eagles run the table, and the Falcons lose one game, then we are going to the playoffs.

Good luck with that. I don't see it happening.

[JPetrucci23]

2 weeks ago Andy Reid was to be fired and McNabb gone after the year. Now they are superbowl bound. lol (this isn't a shot at you Aizazzle - just what I've been reading on the internet)

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I still think Reid & McNabb are done in Philly. Like they said over in the Eagles thread, they think the Cleveland game is the perfect trap game, and we certainly know that first hand. You can tell that it wasn't Andy Reid who called those plays yesterday...no way does he run the ball that frequently on 3rd and short

[JPetrucci23]

I still think Reid & McNabb are done in Philly. Like they said over in the Eagles thread, they think the Cleveland game is the perfect trap game, and we certainly know that first hand. You can tell that it wasn't Andy Reid who called those plays yesterday...no way does he run the ball that frequently on 3rd and short


I disagree. I think Reid will be back, but not McNabb (unless they make a big run).

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Not much of a shock after last night...Giants-Panthers game flexed to 8pm for next week (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3757397)


ESPN NFL Power Rankings: Week 15 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=15)

(2) Tennessee Titans AFC South Champions
(1) New York Giants NFC East Champions
(3) Pittsburgh Steelers
(5) Carolina Panthers
(6) Indianapolis Colts
(4) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(10) Baltimore Ravens
(8) Dallas Cowboys
(12) Arizona Cardinals NFC West Champions
(11) New England Patriots
(9) Atlanta Falcons
(16) Miami Dolphins
(7) New York Jets
(17) Philadelphia Eagles
(15) Minnesota Vikings
(14) Denver Broncos
(18) New Orleans Saints
(13) Washington Redskins
(19) Chicago Bears
(22) Houston Texans
(23) San Diego Chargers
(21) Buffalo Bills
(20) Green Bay Packers
(25) San Francisco 49ers
(24) Jacksonville Jaguars
(26) Cleveland Browns
(27) Kansas City Chiefs
(29) Seattle Seahawks
(28) Oakland Raiders
(30) St. Louis Rams
(31) Cincinnati Bengals
(32) Detroit Lions

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Asterix Jones out for Sunday's game (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3760231&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)...and possibly for the season too

[JPetrucci23]

Asterix Jones out for Sunday's game (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3760231&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)...and possibly for the season too

not just season, its possibly career ending

[DocSavage]

Yeah sure....this little shit couldn't make it in the NFL for a variety of reasons one of which being he can't control his own hood mentality. So now he gets "Hurt" and will collect some pay for not even playing! Sounds like a plan from the hood playbook.

and NO I don't believe him for one minute that he is hurt.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

not just season, its possibly career endinghttp://www.luxtheater.com/art/darn.gif

[DocSavage]

Jimmy's Dignity...we may root for different teams but I'll have you know I am pulling for the G-Men this week...may they fuckin stomp the cowgirls into prairie pattys...go git your playoff home field advantage.... GO BLUE!

[askewcore]

I have infinite amount more respect for Eagles fans than Cowboys fans. Cowboys fans are on the bottom of the barrell in my book, they are ill-informed, assholes and for the most part, front runners. I respect Red Sox fans more than them even, at least they are smart baseball fans. mostly.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Bye comes with a win this week...but even with a Panthers loss, homefield isn't locked up. It all comes down to the tie-breaker of which team wins next week in Jersey.

Whatever, first things first...beat Dallas :D

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Jacobs may need (choose) to sit on Sunday night (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/12/jacobs-may-need-to-rest-sunday.html)

Brandon Jacobs knows the Giants have a big game Sunday night, but he also knows they’ll soon have games that are even bigger. That’s why he and the Giants are being cautious and there’s a good chance he won’t play against the Dallas Cowboys.

Jacobs, who missed practice with an injured left knee, admitted “It’s definitely a tough call” whether he should play Sunday night. He wants to play, but he also doesn’t want to make his knee injury any worse. It’s been lingering since he first hurt it on Oct. 5 against Seattle, and he said “Me going out and playing on it for (eight of the last nine) weeks didn’t make it any better.”

In fact, he said, the pain he felt when he fell on it on Sunday was the worst he’s felt in the knee yet.

“I took a hard fall on it and hurt it a little more than anything else that had happened, but I’m nursing it and doing the best I can,” he said. “I have no idea what’s going on about Sunday. I wish I can be out there. But we’ve got a nice playoff run that we need to make coming up. I want to be healthy for that.”

Tom Coughlin said “We will do the smart thing (with Jacobs), the thing which is medically recommended.”

Considering that the Giants are 11-2, have a playoff spot, the NFC East, and at least one home game already wrapped up, and need only one more win in their final three games to secure a bye, the smart thing might be to rest Jacobs on Sunday night - especially given the Giants’ bad history with injuries on the unforgiving Texas Stadium turf. Also, they have a huge game coming up the following week, on Dec. 21 vs. Carolina - a game which will likely determine home-field advantage throughout the playoffs.

Plus, a week off might make Jacobs feel a little healthier once the playoffs start.

“Rest would make it a lot better,” Jacobs said. “But I want to be out there. It’s the Dallas Cowboys. Who doesn’t want to play against them guys? I want to be out there, but I need to be healthy, too.”

same entry:

it also means the Giants’ slumping pass rush now has just six sacks in the last five games. Worse, four of them game in one game against the Washington Redskins. :icon_eek:
Awesome start to the season and now we can't get a fucking finger on the QB. We need at least 3 sacks & a whole lot of pressure on Romo.

lastly, Giants refuse to pay Plaxico the $1 million bonus he was due today (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3761123)

[iSpeakEloquent]

Awesome start to the season and now we can't get a fucking finger on the QB. We need at least 3 sacks & a whole lot of pressure on Romo.


because robbins is hurt...just saying

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I think Robbins' shoulder is even more fucked up than his broken hands are. He's still getting some decent pressure in there, but the finish just seems to be missing. I was pretty shocked that there were no holding penalties on Philly's O-line last week...but then they just started kicking the hell out of us so it wouldn't really have mattered all that much

[JPetrucci23]

Jacobs has a slightly damaged PCL

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/ny-spglaub115960651dec11,0,7415978.column

Although Jacobs and coach Tom Coughlin have been vague on exactly what the problem is, multiple sources told me yesterday that Jacobs has a slightly damaged posterior cruciate ligament in his left knee. It is not expected that he will require offseason surgery; however, the Giants are doing everything possible to make sure the injury doesn't get worse. Thus, the cautious approach for Dallas Week.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://www.healthjockey.com/images/knee-brace.jpghttp://www.everythingtrackandfield.com/ImagesProducts/2119s.jpghttp://www.addictionhelpline.com/img/percocet.jpg

but save all of that until the post-season

[DocSavage]

Newark Star-Ledger reporter Mike Garafalo considers Brandon Jacobs (knee) "doubtful" to play in Week 15 against Dallas.

Jacobs missed his second consecutive practice Thursday. While he might try to give it a go on Friday, the Giants shouldn't be pushing him. They've already clinched the NFC East and will need Jacobs in Week 16 against Carolina. That game could determine who gets the No. 1 postseason seed in the NFC. Dec. 11 - 12:22 pm et
Source: Newark Star-Ledger

Not looking good. Doubtful = 75% no go ....25% possible go

[Jimmy's Dignity]

looks like I've gotta reset my roster for this weekend...

[DocSavage]

looks like I've gotta reset my roster for this weekend...

What are your choices?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Unfortunately....Selvin Young or an even more injured Joseph Addai. So I'm running Steve Slayton & Michael Turner and going with an extra WR.

Hopefully Westbrook & DeAngelo Williams both develop scorching cases of herpes before their games...

[DocSavage]

hmmm...always won my leagues with three solid RB's. Hopefully you got a decent set of WR's? Stud QB?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Peyton at QB, Anquan Boldin, Greg Jennings, Torry Holt, & Anthony Gonzalez are the WR's I'm going with

[DocSavage]

There have been alot of Peyton holders cursing receivers this year. It looks like he should be good to go the rest of the year however...the WR's are finally catching a few. But boy there have been sooo many near misses on wide open bombs this year for Peyton that hd he hit half of them he and the Clts would be killing this year.

When did you take him?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

3 years ago, 1st pick of the 2nd round. Love keeper leagues :D

I sure hope Jacobs' knee is healthy...I'm fine with him sitting out this game against Dallas, but he's may have to get some carries against Carolina. A win this week gets the bye, but I'd much rather have Carolina (or anyone else) come up to NJ in January for the NFC Championship as opposed to having to hit the road. Not that the road scares me, but if Arizona were to make it, I'd love to have them out in 17 degree weather :D

[DocSavage]

Trouble with keepers is just getting the right group of owners to stick around especially if their team turns to shit.

well Good Luck Bro...beat those Cowgirls will ya!

[EarthCrisis]

Just to let everyone know Modell's has Authentic Plaxico jersey's for 20 bucks.

[iSpeakEloquent]

I think Robbins' shoulder is even more fucked up than his broken hands are. He's still getting some decent pressure in there, but the finish just seems to be missing. I was pretty shocked that there were no holding penalties on Philly's O-line last week...but then they just started kicking the hell out of us so it wouldn't really have mattered all that much

actually a few holding penalties and they might've had a lucky win, the score was closer then the effort

Trouble with keepers is just getting the right group of owners to stick around especially if their team turns to shit.

well Good Luck Bro...beat those Cowgirls will ya!

i hate that shit too, how many times can i draft ryan braun in my baseball league before people start to stick around and let it be a keeper league

[Jimmy's Dignity]

checking in from Dallas:

A) I'm hungover as balls. I racked up an $87 bar-tab last night at the hotel bar, & only bought 2 people drinks
2) I shook hands with both Rodney Hampton & Coach Fassel
D) Fassel said that the coaching job in "Saint Louis looks very interesting" and that "the job in Oakland.........looks pretty tough." I said that as long as Al's alive, it's gonna be a tough one. He chuckled and agreed
7) We went on a tour of Texas Stadium yesterday...holy shit do they need a new fucking stadium. Built in 1971 for $35 million, it looks like shit. Giants Stadium looks a LOT better than it.
Sec 138) The HDTV screen in the new stadium (which goes from the 30 to the 30) cost more than Texas Stadium originally did.
G) I got Hamp's & Bradshaw's autographs last night

[JPetrucci23]

Giants.com just posted it:

Webster extended thru 2013!!!

YES!!!!

[JPetrucci23]

according to rotoworld he got a good deal!

Giants signed CB Corey Webster to a contract extension through 2013. NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the deal is worth $43.5 million, including $20 million in guarantees.
This was the last year on Webster's rookie deal, so the extension is five years. Webster, 26, is a physical corner who developed slow initially, but has had only 20% of the passes thrown in his direction completed in 2008. He also has three picks and a league-best 24 pass breakups. Opponents have decided against throwing at him often in the second half of the season.

[thetick130]

Fuck Romo. He just got hurt a little.

[mikeybot]

Sadly not enough.
I'm jumping in your teams thread. I want the Cowboys to lose and implode, so I'm sort of rooting for the Giants.

[Ronreddog]

checking in from Dallas:

A) I'm hungover as balls. I racked up an $87 bar-tab last night at the hotel bar, & only bought 2 people drinks
2) I shook hands with both Rodney Hampton & Coach Fassel
D) Fassel said that the coaching job in "Saint Louis looks very interesting" and that "the job in Oakland.........looks pretty tough." I said that as long as Al's alive, it's gonna be a tough one. He chuckled and agreed
7) We went on a tour of Texas Stadium yesterday...holy shit do they need a new fucking stadium. Built in 1971 for $35 million, it looks like shit. Giants Stadium looks a LOT better than it.
Sec 138) The HDTV screen in the new stadium (which goes from the 30 to the 30) cost more than Texas Stadium originally did.
[I][B]G) I got Hamp's & Bradshaw's autographs last night

Very cool!

The Gmen have to play better in the second half, way too many blitzes, and not enough focus on the pass protection on offense. Less than 100 yards on offense will not win ballgames.

[ChrisH]

Fucking interception.

EDIT: At least the Cowboys went 3 and out.

Ok, we need some points here gentlemen.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

at least it's only 7-3. they just need to stop pounding the run because the run game just doesn't seem to be cutting it right now.

[BCH]

Wow this is fucking ugly. Can they block anyone? Anyone? Give Eli 2 seconds at least.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

ugh, that's 7 sacks on Eli and it isn't even the 4th quarter yet. they're lucky it's only a 4-point game.

[ChrisH]

Yeah, the Offensive line--which has been awesome this year--has been shitting the bed tonight in protecting Eli. Also, not having Jacobs (and I hate to say it, Plax) is really cutting into their depth on offense.

[BCH]

they're starting to try some slip screens and boots at least.... I don't know...

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

the safety and knocking Romo out of the game is a start. hopefully this'll get some momentum going. looks like Seubert's out with some kind of illness, which might have explained why they've had such an easy time getting to Manning tonight.

[mikeybot]

Well, at least you guys are beating up on Romo a bit for the Eagles
Safetys are always nice to see too.

Well, your guys are at least are only 6 down now.

[thetick130]

Fuck. This is pissing me off.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

another field goal. this is looking like the Giants of ol' who couldn't find the end zone for the life of them.

[thetick130]

Well at least they are within one score of a win.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

game over with that touchdown.

[JPetrucci23]

this team has some serious issues right now

[ceeps04]

That's 2 weeks without an offensive touchdown when the game was not already over. The one thing all year I knew was that the Giants would at least be able to score with teams. I am very nervous. Can a fucking WR get open??????

[Steam]

A second straight awful fucking outing. They definitely have some shit to work out but the trends definitely aren't working in their favor.

[maz]

Maz now Owes 3 shots

For this loss

[Jimmy's Dignity]

What the hell happened to McKenzie? Aside from him sucking at life and not being able to even get a sniff of DeMarcus Ware? Fucking abysmal pass protection. I know we had no Jacobs, but run the fucking ball more. Gilbride's play calling tonight was so predictable it pissed me off. The one play that really surprised/pleased me was the quick screen to Bradshaw when he was lined up at WR.

I've got pictures, I'll post em up when I get home

[jagsfans]

Next week is a must win if the Giants want home field through the playoffs.

[JPetrucci23]

What the hell happened to McKenzie? Aside from him sucking at life and not being able to even get a sniff of DeMarcus Ware? Fucking abysmal pass protection. I know we had no Jacobs, but run the fucking ball more. Gilbride's play calling tonight was so predictable it pissed me off. The one play that really surprised/pleased me was the quick screen to Bradshaw when he was lined up at WR.

I've got pictures, I'll post em up when I get home


Wrong side, Ware lines up against Diehl. McKenzie got hurt in the 2nd quarter and Boothe was in for the rest of game, but was just a turnstile.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Ware was swapping all game it looked like.

One funny thing on a Witten catch in the 3rd quarter. He makes the catch running towards the Giants sideline...1 man out there who could throw a block and help him gain 5 more yards. And it's TO. What's he do? As soon as he saw that it was Witten who caught the ball he just stopped running and put his hands on his hips. Even the Cowboys fans all around me were like, "Man fuck that ******"

[iSpeakEloquent]

yea meanwhile they showed the 3 of them during the game on the sideline laughing with eachother

[BeerBelly]

8 sacks

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Highlights from Vacchiano's Blog

• Now that CB Corey Webster has signed a five-year, $43 million contract, I’d make S James Butler my next priority if I were Jerry Reese. Yes, Jacobs is more important, but that’s not likely to get done until after the season anyway. Butler could be a bargain the way he’s playing. He had a fantastic tackle on Marion Barber in the first quarter when he blitzed and was driven to the outside. Somehow, he shed his block just enough to get his right arm out and trip Barber for a 3-yard loss.

• Things I don’t understand, Part II: At the end of the first half, Romo scrambles for three yards to the Cowboys’ 37, setting up a 4th and 7. There are about 20 seconds left on the clock. The Giants have two timeouts yet, but choose to let the clock run out instead. Why not call timeout and force them to punt? Maybe you get a bad snap. Maybe you get a big return. Maybe you get a shanked punt. Any of those could’ve set up a field-goal try. Worst-case scenario, if the punt is deep, you let the Cowboys down it and then take a knee. What’s the risk? That the Cowboys are going to try to run a 4th-and-7 play instead?

• Just so we’re all clear on the postseason scenario: The winner of the Giants-Panthers game Sunday night is the No. 1 seed in the NFC, no matter what happens in Week 17. If the Vikings lose to the Falcons on Sunday afternoon, then the loser of Giants-Panthers will be the 2 seed. But if the Vikings win, then they’ve still got a shot at the 2 if the Panthers beat the Giants (they might have a shot at it the if the Giants win, too, but I don’t know, nor do I care). So if the Vikings win and the Giants lose, then the Week 17 Giants-Vikings game will be a winner-take-all game for a bye.

• I don’t know the answer to this, but I’m going to try to find out: Has any team ever finished an NFL season with 10 straight games against opponents with winning records? I have seen brutal stretches before, but nothing like this. The Giants are 6-2 so far in that stretch, which is unbelievably impressive. They’ve earned every bit of their 11-3 record so far. And I guess if they’re going to get that 12th win and a bye, they’re going to have to earn that, too.

oh, and Jacobs says he's playing (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/12/jacobs-im-playing.html)

[ceeps04]

What the hell happened to McKenzie? Aside from him sucking at life and not being able to even get a sniff of DeMarcus Ware? Fucking abysmal pass protection. I know we had no Jacobs, but run the fucking ball more. Gilbride's play calling tonight was so predictable it pissed me off. The one play that really surprised/pleased me was the quick screen to Bradshaw when he was lined up at WR.

I've got pictures, I'll post em up when I get home


You were at the game? Tough one to be at. Offense couldn't move the ball worth shit and the defense which played well all game couldn't get off the field when they needed to at the end.

I went one year to that piece of shit stadium a couple of years ago. It was weirdest thing. It reminded me of a movie set. The outside/Concourse/batrooms, etc... of that stadium is the biggest piece of shit you have ever seen. Yet inside it looks cool. They pump in music to hype the crowd which is annoying and the scoreboard and teletron are ancient. The one thing I was pleasantly surprised with is Dallas fans in Dallas are 100% more tolerable than 70's and 90's bandwagon Dallas fans from anywhere else in this country.

I think and have always thought that this Giants team play best when their backs are against the walls. This week that is the case. If they lose to Carolina they potentially could look at playing a week 1 playoff game. Or they can win a fucking home game and take the next 3 weeks off. That is motivation for anybody.

[JPetrucci23]

Giants Pro Bowlers:

QB Eli Manning
C Shaun O'Hara
G Chris Snee
DE Justin Tuck
P Jeff Feagles
K John Carney

TE Kevin Boss, LB Antonio Pierce, FB Madison Hedgecock and special teamer Chase Blackburn are all first alternates. DT Fred Robbins is a second alternate. and T David Diehl and RB Brandon Jacobs are each third alternates.

Snee, Carney, Feagles going as starters. Congrats to those 6!

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/12/whispers_on_new_york_giants_pr.html

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I'm glad that a Giants offensive lineman is going to the Pro Bowl for the first time since Ron motherfucking Stone in 2001! :icon_eek:


ESPN NFL Power Rankings: Week 16 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=16)

(3) Pittsburgh Steelers <-- AFC North Champions
(1) Tennessee Titans <-- AFC South Champions
(4) Carolina Panthers
(2) New York Giants <-- NFC East Champions
(5) Indianapolis Colts
(8) Dallas Cowboys
(7) Baltimore Ravens
(11) Atlanta Falcons
(10) New England Patriots
(6) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(12) Miami Dolphins
(15) Minnesota Vikings
(14) Philadelphia Eagles
(13) New York Jets
(9) Arizona Cardinals <--NFC West Champions
(19) Chicago Bears
(16) Denver Broncos
(20) Houston Texans
(17) New Orleans Saints
(18) Washington Redskins
(21) San Diego Chargers
(22) Buffalo Bills
(25) Jacksonville Jaguars
(24) San Francisco 49ers
(23) Green Bay Packers
(26) Cleveland Browns
(28) Seattle Seahawks
(27) Kansas City Chiefs
(31) Cincinnati Bengals
(29) Oakland Raiders
(30) St. Louis Rams
(32) Detroit Lions

[JPetrucci23]

New York Giants sign WR Derek Hagan (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/12/new_york_giants_sign_wr_hagan.html)

[JPetrucci23]

They have also placed Droughns on IR

[JPetrucci23]

WR Joe Horn is in NY to take a physical and work out for the Giants.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/12/exsaints_wr_joe_horn_to_visit.html

[JPetrucci23]

and just like that, the Horn saga is over, as the Giants did not sign him. They did, however, sign LB Nate Harris

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/12/giants_look_to_make_roster_adj.html

[JPetrucci23]

update from MG:

3:18 p.m. UPDATE Hold the phone on Harris. Not sure if he's going to be signed. Sounds like something might have changed.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

New York Giants sign WR Derek Hagan (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/12/new_york_giants_sign_wr_hagan.html)

6'2', 215, decent speed and a case of the dropsies? Awesome.

[JPetrucci23]

Goff to IR, LB Edmund Miles signed

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/12/new_york_giants_opt_to_sign_lb.html

[Jimmy's Dignity]

can we somehow get 2 bye weeks and 53 hypobaric chambers?

[JPetrucci23]

can we somehow get 2 bye weeks and 53 hypobaric chambers?

a win on Sunday and we can treat the last game of the year as a bye, so the answer is yes! :action-sm

[Jimmy's Dignity]

any update on those Starcaps guys? I know one of Minnesota's Williamses is out for 4-6 weeks (starting last week I think)

[Jimmy's Dignity]

From Vacchianno's blog:

All hands on deck for NFC showdown (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/12/all-hands-on-deck-for-nfc-show.html)

UPDATE, 12:04 p.m.: The Giants’ practice today inside the bubble is well-attended again. The only player riding the excerise bike in the “rehab” area is LB Gerris Wilkinson. Everybody else is on the field and participating at least on a limited basis.

It’s a amazing what a big game late in the season can do to get people out of the trainers’ room.

Apparently it worked for everybody LB Gerris Wilkinson (knee) yesterday, as all the other injured Giants returned to practice on at least a limited basis. It seems everybody wants to play against the Carolina Panthers on Sunday night.

I’ll give you another update after practice later today, but just to catch you up from yesterday …

RB Ahmad Bradshaw (neck), S Kenny Phillips (concussion) and G Rich Seubert (illness) all practiced for the second straight day.

RB Brandon Jacobs (knee), RT Kareem McKenzie (back), and DE Justin Tuck (lower leg) were all limited for the second straight day.

WR Domenik Hixon (ankle/foot), WR Sinorice Moss (calf), DT Fred Robbins (shoulder) and RB Derrick Ward (ankle) all returned to practice and were limited.

There’ll be much more on the injury situation and this game later because, much like a mailman, neither rain nor snow nor lots of snow and sleet and more snow and … well, you get the idea …

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

game time, boys. home field advantage on the line tonight. hopefully they'll find the end zone for a welcome change.

[BCH]

Not that time they didn't Thank god Carney's been so money.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

ugh, where is the defense? these past few games have been the worst defensive outing i've seen from the Giants in a long time.

[EarthCrisis]

Oh man they better fucking score here....

[EarthCrisis]

B.J. the freight train.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Jacobs in for the TD. boy did i miss seeing that.

[ChrisH]

Fuck.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Giants threatening here. they need another touchdown if they hope to...

nevermind, a pass to Boss for the touchdown. they're back in this one, if the defense can keep holding Delhomme of course.

[BCH]

I don't get the not going for 2 thing. A field goal still puts you ahead if you don't make it.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

I don't get the not going for 2 thing. A field goal still puts you ahead if you don't make it.

i was hoping they'd go for 2 also. at least if they make the 2, it's a tie game. but whether they get the 2 or not, they will still need at least a field goal to go ahead. what did they have to lose?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

and the defense forgets how to tackle. and now we're back to an 8-point game.

[BCH]

and the defense forgets how to tackle. and now we're back to an 8-point game.

yeah, the defense has issues tonight with illness and injury too and the lackluster tackling isn't helping. I'm just happy to see them moving the football on the ground and Eli spreading it around a little now. They've scored more points than the last 2 games combined :rolleyes:

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Giants in the red zone again, but time's running out. think they'll actually go for the two-point conversion this time?

pass interference against the Panthers. 1st and goal, and Jacobs plows through.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

two points! and it's a tie game!

[ChrisH]

Fuck yeah! Nice 2 point conversion!!!

[Steam]

What a beautiful two-point conversion. I love how even the NBC cameras were completely baffled.

[BCH]

that was a great fake to Jacobs. He faked it into the line well too.

[Steam]

Ugh, I'm really getting sick of Madden. How many more years can this babbling codger keep doing games? At least the past number of years we've been able to get rid of him after Wild Card Weekend but now we are going to be stuck with him during the Super Bowl as well.

He seriously called the two-point conversion attempt a big play. No shit, asshole!

[Muscles]

Damn this game is living up to hype. Like playoff game.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Ugh, I'm really getting sick of Madden. How many more years can this babbling codger keep doing games? At least the past number of years we've been able to get rid of him after Wild Card Weekend but now we are going to be stuck with him during the Super Bowl as well.

He seriously called the two-point conversion attempt a big play. No shit, asshole!

at least he's making sure that Frank Caliendo stays relevant. :rolleyes:

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

man, get Tuck some Gatorade and TheraFlu, guy doesn't look very good at all.

[ceeps04]

Fucking miss this shit Kasay

[Steam]

I take it that Kasey kicked one from this distance in pregame?

Who knew?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

no good! and we're heading to overtime!

[Muscles]

Wow. Wind caught that one.

[ceeps04]

OPEN THE DOORS!!! WOO HOO!!!!!!!

hahahahahahahahahaha

[Steam]

man, get Tuck some Gatorade and TheraFlu, guy doesn't look very good at all.

No shit. I think I caught the flu just looking at him.

[BCH]

we need the coin toss and to score on 1st posession tucks done.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

we need the coin toss and to score on 1st posession tucks done.

well we got it. Eli just needs to march down the field here and put this one away, or get deep enough into field goal range so Carney has an easy shot.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

well there goes the "just march down the field" plan.

geez, Tuck is still in there? he wants this win bad.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

motherfucking Ward! the Wind is picking up tonight!

[Steam]

What a beautiful run by Ward. He'll be missed.

[ceeps04]

Ward is fucking beasting out tonight!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Ward breaks through again! field goal range, but with the wind as strong as it is, they better keep pushing for the end zone and get as close as possible.

[Steam]

Fucking lovely.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Ward once again. 1st and goal. home field, here we come!

[Steam]

I love the TD for the motherfucking win.

FUCK YES!!!!!!

[ceeps04]

Take the next 3 weeks off boys...We'll see you on the week of the 10th. Hell fucking Yeah!!!