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Jimmy's Dignity

02-07-2008, 12:15 PM

:clap4: :clap4: :clap4: :clap4: for Spags leaving w/o a contract

Eli on Letterman

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Eli Jokes about Belichik (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3234395)

Giants QB Manning jokes Belichick left field early to 'beat traffic'

NEW YORK -- Turns out Eli Manning has his own theory on why Patriots coach Bill Belichick left the field with one play left in the Super Bowl.

"Trying to beat traffic, I guess," the New York Giants quarterback told David Letterman, during an appearance on the "Late Show" Wednesday.

Letterman replied, "That's why he's a professional. It never occurred to me that the coach was trying to beat traffic. Must have been murder that day in Arizona, for God's sake."

Two weeks before the Giants upset the previously unbeaten Patriots, Letterman was welcoming Lawrence Tynes to his couch after a winning kick in the NFC championship game against the Green Bay Packers.

This time it was Manning -- much maligned for so long -- reveling in the adulation of New York fans.

"I don't know if you know this or not, but people in New York City have opinions about their sports teams," Letterman said.

"And every day I would think, I'd say, 'I wouldn't give Eli's troubles to a monkey on a rock.' And they were unpleased with you, with the team, with everybody. And you must have had a sense of this unrest at some point in your four years here in the city."

Replying quite diplomatically, Manning said, "Yeah, well, I knew you were always on my side."

Letterman played the clip of Manning's throw to David Tyree on the go-ahead drive late in the game, in which the special teams player and backup receiver caught the ball against his helmet.

Then he asked about the touchdown pass to Plaxico Burress that gave the heavy underdogs a 17-14 lead with 35 seconds left.

"It really looked so easy, and it was so beautiful," Letterman said.

"A spiral," Manning replied. "That's rare for me."

distortion9

02-07-2008, 12:44 PM

JPetrucci23

02-07-2008, 01:19 PM

YES!!!!! It's official, he's staying!!

http://blog.nj.com/ledgergiants/

From Spags' agent, Bob LaMonte, in an e-mail moments ago:

"Spags is staying with the Giants."

Much more to come

MG

Steve Spagnuolo's agent, Bob LaMonte, said his client was not offered the Redskins' head-coaching job, but that might have been because he was never fully into the possibility.

"His heart was in NY City!" LaMonte wrote in an e-mail.

Musta dropped it during the parade.

Anyway...

LaMonte said Spagnuolo had a "great meeting" with Washington owner Dan Snyder and executive VP of football ops Vinny Cerrato over the past two days. "Washington was first class," LaMonte said.

More details -- such as a new contract -- are still coming in.

MG

JPetrucci23

02-07-2008, 01:21 PM

more, this from ESPN

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3235255

New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, who interviewed for the Redskins' head coaching job the past three days, has decided to stay in New York.

Spagnuolo was not offered the Redskins job but his agent Bob Lamont said "it didn't matter because his heart is in New York City."

"The Redskins were great ... it was a great interview," Lamont said.

The Giants are also giving Spagnuolo a new three-year contract in excess of $2 million per year, which would make him the league's highest-paid defensive coordinator.

With Spagnuolo out of the running, former Giants head coach Jim Fassel emerges as the leading candidate to get the Redskins job.

Jimmy's Dignity

02-07-2008, 01:38 PM

:clap4: :clap4: :clap4: :clap4: :clap4: :clap4: :clap4: :clap4: :clap4: :clap4:

I was just coming here cause I heard it on Sportscenter. 3 years, $2 million+ per

JPetrucci23

02-07-2008, 01:42 PM

Spags signed a new deal w/ the Giants. 3 years, around $2.5 mil per, PLUS a promotion to Assistant HC!!!!!!!!

Salem

02-07-2008, 02:12 PM

grats to keep ing him. good guy good future

askewcore

02-07-2008, 02:52 PM

He'll be the next HC once Coughlin hangs em up. I'm glad Spags turned down Snyder's giant check that he signed with a giant pen, makes me like him even more.

I hope the redskins get stuck with Fassel. At least we'll know how to play D against his standard offense of run offtackle on 1st, pass for no/short gain on 2nd, shotgun draw on 3rd. ANNNNNND PUNT.

Jimmy's Dignity

02-07-2008, 05:49 PM

ESPN Article about Spags staying put (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3235255)

GLENN_THE_TOOL

02-07-2008, 08:27 PM

great to hear. guess those "Please don't go!" chants at the parade weren't for nothing.

BCH

02-07-2008, 08:41 PM

great to hear. guess those "Please don't go!" chants at the parade weren't for nothing.

Yeah, that, or the 6 million dollars. One or the other. :)

GLENN_THE_TOOL

02-07-2008, 08:50 PM

Yeah, that, or the 6 million dollars. One or the other. :)

true, sir. 6 million bucks does make it sweet. but so many times when you hear that a team is courting an offensive or defensive coordinator after a championship, you hope they'll stay but deep down you know they'll be offered a massive deal and have a giant (pun not intended) paycheck waved under their nose, and they're gone. i'm sure you remember John Fox.

Ronreddog

02-07-2008, 09:10 PM

Spags staying is a huge plus for the Giants. I have a serious questions for every Giants fan.

Has Eli turned that corner after his performance in the playoffs and Super Bowl?

askewcore

02-07-2008, 09:54 PM

Has Eli turned that corner after his performance in the playoffs and Super Bowl?

I really think so. Most of his problems seemed to stem from either overthinking or being underconfident. In the playoffs he played like he was just letting everything happen in front of him and then making the play, instead of forcing the play to happen, if that makes sense. And he has to have all the confidence in the world now.

BCH

02-07-2008, 10:36 PM

I really think so. Most of his problems seemed to stem from either overthinking or being underconfident. In the playoffs he played like he was just letting everything happen in front of him and then making the play, instead of forcing the play to happen, if that makes sense. And he has to have all the confidence in the world now.

I was talking to a friend of mine today who was crushed when the Giants beat the Packers :). He was asking me what I thought of Eli now after all that's happened. I was willing to say that he was now an above average quarterback (Which would mean he's in the top 16) based on the fact that he had his most marked improvement under the harshest of conditions. Having said that, am I completely confident that he comes out next year playing like the Eli we saw down the stretch? Not completely but I am convinced that he has now proven something to those around him which I think he's always believed. One good thing is he really doesn't have anything to prove now so he can go out and play loose and he'll get the respect from those who might whine for the ball that he knows best what to do with it. I do however certainly believe now that he could become great and I did not believe that before this latest run.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

02-08-2008, 01:20 AM

I was talking to a friend of mine today who was crushed when the Giants beat the Packers :). He was asking me what I thought of Eli now after all that's happened. I was willing to say that he was now an above average quarterback (Which would mean he's in the top 16) based on the fact that he had his most marked improvement under the harshest of conditions. Having said that, am I completely confident that he comes out next year playing like the Eli we saw down the stretch? Not completely but I am convinced that he has now proven something to those around him which I think he's always believed. One good thing is he really doesn't have anything to prove now so he can go out and play loose and he'll get the respect from those who might whine for the ball that he knows best what to do with it. I do however certainly believe now that he could become great and I did not believe that before this latest run.

Eli did seem to be trying to force plays to happen, which explains why he threw so many interceptions in the past. he only threw one this entire postseason in the Super Bowl, a pick that wasn't his fault since it was an easy catch that was bobbled.

Jimmy's Dignity

02-08-2008, 12:16 PM

Strahan may wind up trading places with Osi out in Hawaii

Osi has "a bad, bad case of the flu."

anyone have ESPN Insider? There's a Chat interview w/ Shaun O'Hara

righty

02-08-2008, 09:55 PM

Great to see Spag is back. It was like watching the Super Bowl. Well i didn't officially post it so i must be a bandwagon fan just like all the others that don't post all the time, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEW YORK GIANTS!!!!!!!!!!. Oh yeah i didn't make it to the parade because i missed monday and the i was getting laided off Tuesday, but my girl and son did. They also got on Channel 4 news at 11:00 a.m. and got interview. I like the one fan that called someone and said he would be on the news thanks to James (my son 10 months thats why anyone was on the news) You know born April 10 weighing 7LBS 4ozs like he knew him and so did the person on the other end of the phone. I know i'm typing on and on but after i got laid off i went to Giants stadium and attended the ceromony there in my work clothes and my Giants hard hat. Oh yeah i'm know working at the new Giant stadium and helping build it. Ironworkers Local 483. They're calling it the New Meadowlands until someone puts there name on it. I still say it should be named Giants Stadium but i'm not paying them 25 mil. My post was too long i'll post when the Yankees or the Giants are in the playoffs

Tickle The Bag

02-09-2008, 09:15 AM

does anyone know where I can buy a copy of the entire game? it would be nice if they sold you the full length game with the highlight DVD but from what I can see that is not the case.

BCH

02-09-2008, 12:21 PM

They're replaying the whole game on NFL network today from what I understand.

Yep, just checked. NFL Replay at 4:30 PM EST.

Jimmy's Dignity

02-11-2008, 10:35 AM

Righty, congrats on the son (albeit 10 months belatedly)! Sucks about getting laid off, sorry to hear about that; but it's cool you're going to be welding shit with the new stadium :D

Jimmy's Dignity

02-11-2008, 11:53 AM

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GarlicButterSau

02-12-2008, 11:38 AM

Don't know if anyone saw this....

http://www.petitiononline.com/XLIItrut/petition.html

It was created by some tool named Myles P. Fraser. He lists his email as lakers23@gmail.com

Some of the signatures are brilliant.... My favorites include:

17459. Al Gore -- Hey, it's getting warm in here...by the way, I invented stupid
17469. Alanis Morisette -- Damn! I wish this had happened before I wrote my song, don't you think?
17477. KARMA -- Why HELLO Patriots and fans!!
17601. Jokes told too soon guy* -- I think Sean Taylor said it best when he said "____________________________________........."

and the three that I wrote -

17607. Bob Kraft -- Myles. I demand that you take this abhorant website down immediately.... I'm trying to sell macaroni and cheese over here!
17598. Phil Jackson -- Myles. On behalf of the Lakers organization, we would like you to root for another team.... We will need your email address back.
17589. Myles P. Fraser's Father -- I have no son!

It's really kind of sad.

JPetrucci23

02-12-2008, 01:42 PM

Feagles has informed the Giants that he will BE BACK for his 21st season next year!!!

askewcore

02-12-2008, 02:07 PM

Feagles has informed the Giants that he will BE BACK for his 21st season next year!!!

I've never been so excited to retain a punter. Feagles is a really great weapon to have, no one can coffin corner a ball like him.

Don't know if anyone saw this....

That is one of the most pathetic things I have ever seen.

Fun though. My contributions:

17881. Junior Seau Has anyone seen my ring?
17888. Giselle Bundchen I cant talk right now because my mouth is full with the spunk of plaxico burress. A winner.
17893. Willy Wonka Patriots? YOU GET NOTHING! YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIRS!
17895. REALITY It's alot harder to win when you dont cheat.

JPetrucci23

02-12-2008, 04:03 PM

wow, even better news on Feagles, he signed a TWO YEAR DEAL!!!!!!!

our REAL MVP is around for 2 more years!

Jimmy's Dignity

02-12-2008, 04:11 PM

and Vacchiano reports that Tynes signed a new 5 year deal (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/02/report-tynes-signs-new-fiveyea.html)

Jimmy's Dignity

02-12-2008, 04:49 PM

ESPN article about Feagles signing for 2 years (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3242699) and Tynes got $7 for 5 years (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3242679)

GarlicButterSau

02-12-2008, 05:35 PM

Fun though. My contributions:

17881. Junior Seau Has anyone seen my ring?
17888. Giselle Bundchen I cant talk right now because my mouth is full with the spunk of plaxico burress. A winner.
17893. Willy Wonka Patriots? YOU GET NOTHING! YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIRS!
17895. REALITY It's alot harder to win when you dont cheat.

Fantastic contributions sir. I laughed at every one of those when I read them... This thing has kept me entertained all day.

Some more of mine...

17972. Rabbi Avram Mortenstienburg -- Myles... I'm sorry to inform you but both you and your brother Ronald have been removed from the Jewish faith. Please return your funny little hats to temple and report to my office to get your foreskins put back on your wee-wees. You are no longer a man in Moses's eyes.

17651. Myles P. Fraser's Mom -- Myles honey, cover up... your vagina is showing.

JPetrucci23

02-12-2008, 05:53 PM

amazing, we will have a stable Special Teams unit for a couple of years in a row! When was the last time we had that??

askewcore

02-12-2008, 06:21 PM

amazing, we will have a stable Special Teams unit for a couple of years in a row! When was the last time we had that??

1990:Meggett/Bahr/Landeta gets my vote...

norton23

02-17-2008, 11:51 AM

Steam

02-17-2008, 12:10 PM

The next time the Giants so much as make the playoffs as anything but a wild card team it will be 2015,,,,,

Pats will be champs next year now that they actually have something to play for,,,so thank you to the Giants for waking the pats up,,,

Hahaha, is that your spin, sir?

They didn't have anything to play for? How about the fucking Super Bowl? How about becoming the first team to ever go 19-0? How about history? How about a title for someone like Junior Seau or Randy Moss?

If my team couldn't get motivated for that then I wouldn't want to root for them.

As for the Giants, you do realize that they are one of the youngest teams in the NFL and that all of their core guys should be around for a while. Eli, Plax, Jacobs, Bradshaw, Osi, Tuck, Ross. That is the makings of a winner for the future. Not saying they will even win another title but they should be a fun team to watch, provided that Coughlin doesn't fulfill his destiny and become Billick Take 2.

norton23

02-17-2008, 12:23 PM

Hahaha, is that your spin, sir?

They didn't have anything to play for? How about the fucking Super Bowl? How about becoming the first team to ever go 19-0? How about history? How about a title for someone like Junior Seau or Randy Moss?

If my team couldn't get motivated for that then I wouldn't want to root for them.

As for the Giants, you do realize that they are one of the youngest teams in the NFL and that all of their core guys should be around for a while. Eli, Plax, Jacobs, Bradshaw, Osi, Tuck, Ross. That is the makings of a winner for the future. Not saying they will even win another title but they should be a fun team to watch, provided that Coughlin doesn't fulfill his destiny and become Billick Take 2.

LOL I know there a young team and of course they will be in the playoffs im being a asshole dummy:action-sm The pats will win it next year though I have a feeling on this one,,,they WILL NOT go undefeated however,,,,,,,,Moss will get his ring.

Steam

02-17-2008, 01:46 PM

LOL I know there a young team and of course they will be in the playoffs im being a asshole dummy:action-sm The pats will win it next year though I have a feeling on this one,,,they WILL NOT go undefeated however,,,,,,,,Moss will get his ring.

You had a "feeling" on this year too. And Moss won't even be around. He'll jump at the outrageous offer some team will give him.

Papagolash

02-17-2008, 02:09 PM

Jimmy's Dignity

02-17-2008, 11:20 PM

So will this be the 1st post in another bash norton23 thread next year? :icon_mrgr

can't wait to see Tom's Achilles rupture in the pre-season

Jimmy's Dignity

02-20-2008, 12:21 PM

Coughlin about to get an extention (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3254521)

from the looks of things, 4 years, $5 million per

Jimmy's Dignity

02-21-2008, 02:25 PM

From the looks of things, the Giants free agents are too expensive to get franchised (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/02/franchise-tag-too-much-for-gme.html)

putting the franchise tag on Gibril Wilson would cost $4.4 million; putting it on a LB or RB...$8.1 millon and $6.5 million respectively. So as per usual, the Giants are not expected to use the Franchise nor "transition" tag

good news...Giants are a projected $20 million UNDER the cap

Jimmy's Dignity

02-22-2008, 11:21 AM

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JPetrucci23

02-22-2008, 11:32 AM

Giants-Falcons rumored to be talking Deangelo Hall for the 31st pick in the draft.

The Giants are reportedly prepared to send the No. 31 overall pick in the draft to the Falcons in exchange for CB DeAngelo Hall.

The Giants were reportedly hoping to woo Nnamdi Asomugha or Marcus Trufant, but both were franchised. GM Jerry Reese views Asante Samuel as a product of the Patriots' system. The rebuilding Falcons could probably ask the Giants to add a later-round pick to the deal and get it. Despite the Super Bowl win, Reese smartly recognizes the Giants' CB situation as a need area.

Jimmy's Dignity

02-22-2008, 06:24 PM

I would definitely take that trade...he may be a malcontent down in that shithole of a city called Atlanta, but I think he'd be a great fit here (I hope)

I didn't see these during the playoffs, so I'll share em now

After the Packers game...
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GarlicButterSau

02-26-2008, 02:42 PM

The major questions I have about DeAngelo Hall is does he have a character problem or is he pulling a "Randy Moss" and just dogging it until he gets to a team he likes

Creampier

02-26-2008, 07:32 PM

The major questions I have about DeAngelo Hall is does he have a character problem or is he pulling a "Randy Moss" and just dogging it until he gets to a team he likes

I honestly want nothing to do with this guy! I don't want a guy who roomed with Michael Vick in college and gave a shout out to him in prison on Monday Night Football. I don't want a guy who lines up against one of the best receivers in the game (Carolina's Steve Smith), then procedes to lose all self control and rack up 67 penalty yards in one drive to lose a game for his team. I want my team to stay classy!

I think the Gints should go after Marcus Trufant instead. Or reward guys like Burress, Diehl and Snee, since they're asking for more money. Extend/rework their contracts before they get super expensive in the future. Those guys all deserve a raise!! But whatever you do, don't spend a possible $10 mil (what Hall will be looking for after the trade) on another asshat who wears #21!

GLENN_THE_TOOL

02-27-2008, 12:00 AM

anyone else pick up the Giants DVD today? NFL Films always does a great job with these things. the best part has to be, naturally, the slow-mo view of Eli's escape and Tyree's catch. the crowd noise and the announcers' play-by-play falls away and the music swells like a war film. good stuff. my only real gripe is that they don't show much of the ticker tape parade except in the closing credits. i was hoping they'd include more of it in the extras.

askewcore

02-27-2008, 02:38 AM

I honestly want nothing to do with this guy! I don't want a guy who roomed with Michael Vick in college and gave a shout out to him in prison on Monday Night Football.

I cant blame him for that. He has been good friends with Vick since he was like 18, you cant expect him to be like "oh he fought some dogs, fuck that guy." I would have less respect for him if he did that.

I don't want a guy who lines up against one of the best receivers in the game (Carolina's Steve Smith), then procedes to lose all self control and rack up 67 penalty yards in one drive to lose a game for his team. I want my team to stay classy!

That was just one game, for a shitty Atlanta team that had no QB and everyone knew was going nowhere, he just exploded so I dont really give that much creedence either. I definitely wouldnt be mad if the Giants got Hall. That being said,

I think the Gints should go after Marcus Trufant instead.

I totally agree. Trufant is a fucking solid player, he is good in coverage, a strong tackler, young (like 27 I think) and you never hear him popping shit. Coming to New York would probably get him a Pro Bowl bid, because no one watches/cares about the Seahawks. Is he a free agent, or were you thinking about a trade?

Creampier

02-27-2008, 11:09 PM

I totally agree. Trufant is a fucking solid player, he is good in coverage, a strong tackler, young (like 27 I think) and you never hear him popping shit. Coming to New York would probably get him a Pro Bowl bid, because no one watches/cares about the Seahawks. Is he a free agent, or were you thinking about a trade?

Damn!! Seattle franchised him last week. How'd I miss that?! I'm not sure what my alternative is now besides taking a chance on an Aaron Ross/Corey Webster tandem. Webster had a great postseason, but I'm not completely sold on him yet.

I think the more important question is Safety now. Rumor has it that Gibril Wilson is gonna be asking for Bob Sanders money ($6-7 mil). It would suck to see him go, and the Eagles are one team that's really seeking him out, but I don't think he's worth that, and I don't think Reese will think so either. So is Michael Johnson ready? Or are the Gints gonna look to the draft?

Jimmy's Dignity

02-28-2008, 12:10 AM

I honestly want nothing to do with this guy! I don't want a guy who roomed with Michael Vick in college and gave a shout out to him in prison on Monday Night Football. I don't want a guy who lines up against one of the best receivers in the game (Carolina's Steve Smith), then procedes to lose all self control and rack up 67 penalty yards in one drive to lose a game for his team. I want my team to stay classy! like Askew said, that was one game, on a shitty team, that was going nowhere. I think Hall needs to get out of the Dirty South. Lets face it, he isn't gonna bring that culture up here with him, he simply couldn't fit in the Metropolitan area with that mindset. He's only 24 years old...fucking younger than BOTH Webster & Ross!!!! As a 2-time Pro Bowler, he's totally worth the 31st overall pick. Will they do it? Probably not. Should they? If they can get him signed to a reasonable extention...luckily the attitude/injury would prevent him from being able to ask for Nate Clements money (8 years, $80 million)

anyone else pick up the Giants DVD today? NFL Films always does a great job with these things. the best part has to be, naturally, the slow-mo view of Eli's escape and Tyree's catch. the crowd noise and the announcers' play-by-play falls away and the music swells like a war film. good stuff. my only real gripe is that they don't show much of the ticker tape parade except in the closing credits. i was hoping they'd include more of it in the extras.I pre-ordered it...fucking thing hasn't come yet :icon_evil

Damn!! Seattle franchised him last week. How'd I miss that?! I'm not sure what my alternative is now besides taking a chance on an Aaron Ross/Corey Webster tandem. Webster had a great postseason, but I'm not completely sold on him yet.

I think the more important question is Safety now. Rumor has it that Gibril Wilson is gonna be asking for Bob Sanders money ($6-7 mil). It would suck to see him go, and the Eagles are one team that's really seeking him out, but I don't think he's worth that, and I don't think Reese will think so either. So is Michael Johnson ready? Or are the Gints gonna look to the draft?
Gibril is the best saftey out there this year...and that's saying a LOT about the available safties. He is nowhere near worth Sanders $$, but the only guys on the squad right now who have in-game experience playing saftey are Butler & Michael Johnson. That's fuckin scary, I want a veteran presence back there. One of the things that I've seen is, after a potential trade for Hall, it'd be Hall & Webster at the corners with Aaron Ross playing Saftey. He'd have to bulk up a bit for it, but he's got the range to be a good free saftey and I think he played some FS back at Texas

Damn!! Seattle franchised him last week. How'd I miss that?!

check in here more often!!! (http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=85273)

askewcore

02-28-2008, 01:16 AM

GarlicButterSau

02-28-2008, 10:34 AM

I'll be PISSED if we let Gibril go. He makes a massive difference on the d. It didnt get mentioned much in the season, but the games we really struggled were the games he missed, and when he came back the D tightened up again.

I like the idea of Hall/Webster corners and Ross saftey, its a real good idea but it just sounds too much like a Madden move to ever work in real life.

Couldn't agree more on all your points. Gibril comes up HUGE for the team time and time again. The struggle comes between Reese and the Maras. Mara likes the big name free agent signings and Reese like to cultivate young talent and hard working guys. Reese is a former scout so he likes the challenge of finding the diamonds in the rough rather then the flashy new toy on the market. I like Reese's way better. You nurture a young player and give them a chance when no one else will... that builds loyalty. Something the Giants organization prides themselves on. Look at something the Patriots organization... They're not loyal to their guys. Players know that if your last name isn't Brady, you're expendable. (Not you Kyle). That has to backfire eventually....oh wait... it did.

I say let Reese do his thing. He's stockpiling young hard working character type players who like playing for the team. And as far as Gibril... As KGB would say, "Pay dat m-yan his money"

Keep the first round pick and draft Dan Connor already! I read in every major mock draft that he's our guy. I'm really psyching myself up for a major let down by the way.

Jimmy's Dignity

02-28-2008, 10:47 AM

I'm really psyching myself up for a major let down by the way.1987, 1991, and 2001 are all long in the past. The Giants will be back next year :D

I'd be happy with Dan Connor too with the 31st pick...but I'd love to see a shutdown corner too

SurlyTruckDrivr

02-28-2008, 11:36 AM

1987, 1991, and 2001 are all long in the past. The Giants will be back next year :D

I'd be happy with Dan Connor too with the 31st pick...but I'd love to see a shutdown corner tooooof, 1991, the Ray Handley years, I can still hear the "Ray must go" chant

JPetrucci23

02-28-2008, 12:13 PM

ooof, 1991, the Ray Handley years, I can still hear the "Ray must go" chant

You mean R** H******, he who shall not be named.

askewcore

02-28-2008, 01:51 PM

Ray Handley

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

If Dan Connor drops to the Giants and we dont take him....i got nothing, i would just not like it.

Jimmy's Dignity

02-28-2008, 03:29 PM

Coughlin gets 4 years, $21 million (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3268639)...$5.25 million per, behind only Mike Holmgren & Belichick

askewcore

02-28-2008, 04:02 PM

Coughlin gets 4 years, $21 million (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3268639)...$5.25 million per, behind only Mike Holmgren & Belichick

COUGHLIN IS GARBAGE! THE GIANTS WILL NEVER WIN WITH HIM OR ELI

JPetrucci23

02-29-2008, 01:39 AM

FYI - The Saints have contacted the Giants expressing interest in Jeremy Shockey. I am awaiting the good news that Reese told them to go fuck themselves, but I don't forsee that.

Jimmy's Dignity

02-29-2008, 01:54 AM

also from what I've read it looks like Gibril will not be returning. Mitchell, Torbor, & Ward were all not signed yet either

JPetrucci23

02-29-2008, 01:43 PM

Kawika Mitchell signs with the Bills, and Reggie Torbor signed with the Dolphins

askewcore

02-29-2008, 02:37 PM

Reggie Torbor signed with the Dolphins

He'll have a very good season in Miami next year. With Mitchell leaving does that mean they'll be planning to play Kiwi at LB again? I was hoping he would go back to the DE platoon.

Jimmy's Dignity

02-29-2008, 02:41 PM

With both gone right now our LB corps looks like Wilkerson, Pierce, & Kiwanukwa

maybe it's time to go after Lance Briggs?

askewcore

02-29-2008, 02:42 PM

With both gone right now our LB corps looks like Wilkerson, Pierce, & Kiwanukwa

maybe it's time to go after Lance Briggs?

Briggs,Pierce,Dan Connor sounds better methinks.

Granted, if we sign Briggs, I doubt they would use the 1st rounder on another LB, but the first day of free agency, this is the kind of shit we kick around.

Jimmy's Dignity

02-29-2008, 02:52 PM

true, but you gotta realize, if we were to get Dan Connor in the 1st round, he's still the 31st pick...nowhere near as expensive as he could be

askewcore

02-29-2008, 03:04 PM

yeah 100% true. If he is down there at 31 he would be a steal. This is also a deep CB draft, we might be able to get a really solid corner at 31, like a Brandon Flowers, Antoine Cason or Justin King.

Reese is all about just taking the highest player on the board though, regardless of position/need, I dont agree with it really, and our 1st round pick usually suck. Late rounders make up for it though, always.

Steam

02-29-2008, 06:01 PM

and our 1st round pick usually suck.

Are you saying that Jarrod Bunch sucked? Of all the nerve!

Jimmy's Dignity

02-29-2008, 11:19 PM

See ya Gibril (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3271444)

he's off to Jokeland, but get this....

6 years
$39 million
$16 million guaranteed
$19.5 million in the first 3 years

he's now the 3rd highest paid Saftey in the NFL behind Bob Sanders & Troy Palumalu :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

Creampier

03-01-2008, 02:01 AM

Gibril was one of my favorites! He was a warrior, but I'd call him a slightly above average safety. No way is he worth Bob Sanders or Troy Polamalu money!

But God Bless Him if he got a team to give that to him! I thank him for the memories. He'll be missed. :action-sm:(

Jimmy's Dignity

03-01-2008, 02:22 AM

x2

I think he's gotta be extremely happy about signing with Oakland, not just for the money, but because he's from Northern CA.

Good thing I didn't get a 28 jersey...

I'm going to get a blue defensive this year....I'm leaning towards Tuck, but I'm not positive

askewcore

03-01-2008, 03:46 AM

Are you saying that Jarrod Bunch sucked? Of all the nerve!

I mean, he was no Cedric Jones. Solid #5 pick there.

Or the great Giants wide out that Thomas Lewis turned into...

I'm going to get a blue defensive this year....I'm leaning towards Tuck, but I'm not positive

I picked up a blue Ross this year, bringing respect back to the #31 after Sehorn defiled it. They suckered me into buying a red Pierce last year for the game against Dallas when they told everyone to wear red.

SurlyTruckDrivr

03-01-2008, 10:22 AM

and the HOF QB that supplemental draft pick Dave Brown turned into, costing their first pick in 93 (if I remember right)

Jimmy's Dignity

03-01-2008, 10:37 AM

I picked up a blue Ross this year, bringing respect back to the #31 after Sehorn defiled it. They suckered me into buying a red Pierce last year for the game against Dallas when they told everyone to wear red.Ross is a good one, but there's no way in hell I'd get a red one

and the HOF QB that supplemental draft pick Dave Brown turned into, costing their first pick in 93 (if I remember right)
:yuck2: :yuck2: :yuck2: :yuck2: :yuck2:

Worst scouting mistake ever. No one should EVER draft a QB from Duke :arrrh: :arrrh: :arrrh: :arrrh:

JPetrucci23

03-01-2008, 11:49 AM

good news, according to the Journal News Giants blog (as posted on BBI) Reese has told the Saints to go fuck themselves in regards to Shockey!

and Jarrod Bunch was actually a very good pick but a knee injury derailed his career. He and Hampton were the best backfield combo in the game in like 1993.

JPetrucci23

03-02-2008, 10:47 AM

S Sammy Knight (formerly of the Jags, Chiefs, Saints, and Dolphins) is set up to visit the Giants.

Also, the Giants are rumored to be interested in WR Javon Walker.

Steam

03-02-2008, 02:32 PM

and the HOF QB that supplemental draft pick Dave Brown turned into, costing their first pick in 93 (if I remember right)

That epic quarterback battle between Brown and Kent Graham definitely did bring back memories of Simms/Hostetler.

Jimmy's Dignity

03-02-2008, 02:46 PM

not only did they spark memories of Simms/Hostetler, but it also sparked chants of "We want Phil!!" from the day he retired until I think Danny Kannell was the QB

JPetrucci23

03-03-2008, 04:55 PM

Giants are on the verge of signing SS Sammy Knight to a 3 year $5 million contract which includes a $1 million signing bonus, and a few other minor bonuses.

Jimmy's Dignity

03-03-2008, 05:10 PM

Sammy Knight, while old, had essentially the same exact statistics as Gibril Wilson this past year

Last year, Knight and Wilson had nearly identical stats. Each had four interceptions and no sacks. Knight had 11 passes defensed and Wilson had seven. They’re pretty even over the last four years, too. Knight has 11 INTs, 25 PDs and four sacks. Wilson has 11 INTs, 19 PDs and six sacks.

Of course Wilson is six years younger and figures to be about $4.5 million per year more expensive.

JPetrucci23

03-03-2008, 10:53 PM

Sammy Knight, while old, had essentially the same exact statistics as Gibril Wilson this past year

and he is now officially a Giant, and will wear # 26.

Creampier

03-04-2008, 09:04 PM

Sammy Knight is a pretty cheap stopgap!! I like the contract. Hopefully he and old man Madison hold up this coming year.

A little off topic, but I finally watched the Super Bowl DVD. And I thought it really left a lot of good stuff out!! Normally NFL Films does a great job, but this was pretty mediocre.

No cunty Tiki criticism during the intro part? What about Jacobs spiking the ball into and killing the game clock in Tampa and Dallas? Why didn't they visually show David Akers' shank-aroo in Philly? Why'd they leave out Owens blubbering like the pussy he really is? No Peyton and Eli postgame locker conversation after the Super Bowl? Two seconds of parade footage in the credits?

All those events really were milestones/cornerstones of the season. NFL Films should have taken about another month to finish it up!!

JPetrucci23

03-07-2008, 06:23 PM

http://blog.nj.com/ledgergiants/2008/03/one_more_thought_on_plax.html

One more thought on Plax
Posted by Mike Garafolo March 07, 2008 4:54PM
Categories: Off-season, Rumors
Andrew Mills/The Star-LedgerI wonder if he's also "pretty jacked" about Coughlin's new deal.

Just a quick one here because I have to scoot, but wanted you to know that I spoke to someone today who has recently spoken to a member of Plaxico Burress' camp. The person said Plax is "pretty jacked" about Javon Walker's recent six-year, $55-million deal that included more than $16 million in guaranteed money.

Let me define "pretty jacked" for you in this context. It doesn't mean he's happy for Walker. It doesn't mean he's excited to be playing in a league in which guys are making that kind of money. And it doesn't mean he's muscular. It means he's pretty agitated that a guy who's only one year younger than him, is coming off an injury and had only two big seasons now has a contract worth more than twice Plax's deal from '05.

Again, not saying who's right or wrong. Just keeping you up to date on a situation that bears watching.

Jimmy's Dignity

03-11-2008, 12:23 PM

Giants lookin at David Carr to be a "veteran back-up" to Eli.

and strange Salary Cap deal with the Giants...
The Giants were also the victim of a somewhat obscure rule that actually adjusted their actual salary cap downward by $3 million based on performance bonuses from the previous year. Basically it works like this: If there were “likely to be earned” bonuses included the team’s 2007 salary total (their “cap number”) that weren’t actually earned, their 2008 cap is adjusted upwards. If bonuses were reached that weren’t included in team salary because they weren’t considered “likely to be earned” (Super Bowl bonuses, for example), the team’s cap is adjusted downwards.

So, even though the league’s unadjusted salary cap was set at $116,729,000, some teams had more room to spend. The Giants had less. In fact, the Giants’ actual cap was $113,632,488. Based on what I explained above, they were docked $3,098,512 off the 2008 cap before free agency even began.

damn...there are 19 teams out there who have more cap room than the Giants right now...and they still need to give raises to Plax, Osi, & probably Strahan (if he doesn't retire)

JPetrucci23

03-11-2008, 03:54 PM

and they still need to give raises to Plax, Osi, & probably Strahan (if he doesn't retire)

and don't forget extending Jacobs & Snee who become FA's after this season and next, respectively! Plus, you can bet that Diehl will want a LT contract soon! Use the cap money to get our guys extended and given raises where deserved, we don't need any FA splashes.

Jimmy's Dignity

03-11-2008, 04:15 PM

For some reason I thought they already extended Snee, but that's a good point. But lets face it...the free agent pool is not impressive at all. I'd much rather have our team back intact + rookies than having some overpriced mook

so happy Larry Fitzgerald got his contract reworked with Arizona, I was hearing rumors of him getting shipped to Philly. I wouldn't have wanted to play him 2x a season

Jimmy's Dignity

03-12-2008, 07:28 PM

hahahaa, we've got 2 #1 Overall picks at QB now

we signed David Carr to a 1 year deal (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3290086) for $1 million. He said that Chris Palmer (Giants QB Coach) was the biggest reason why he chose to come here...Palmer was his QB coach in Houston and he thinks that he can re-find his game with him

askewcore

03-12-2008, 07:35 PM

Nice, nice. We also have Danny Clark coming in for a visit today or tomorrow. Coughlin drafted him when he was coaching the Jags, he hadda couple good season with Oakland a couple years back. At this point, I guess any professional linebacker is good.

JPetrucci23

03-12-2008, 07:54 PM

David Carr and LB Danny Clark are Giants

JPetrucci23

03-14-2008, 04:59 PM

NICE! Derrick Ward resigns with the Giants. 1 year, $1.1 million deal that has incentives that could allow him to make another $1 million. Great news!

JPetrucci23

03-16-2008, 01:14 AM

<------------ wore Sean Landeta's Superbowl XXI and XXV rings today!

askewcore

03-16-2008, 01:27 AM

Did you say, "Hey these are awesome. You remember that time you missed the ball against Chicago in the playoffs?"

Jimmy's Dignity

03-16-2008, 10:43 AM

<------------ wore Sean Landeta's Superbowl XXI and XXV rings today!Gotta see the big picture, the lil' one you sent on the phone didn't do em justice

Did you say, "Hey these are awesome. You remember that time you missed the ball against Chicago in the playoffs?"
hahahahahaha

Jimmy's Dignity

03-17-2008, 05:39 PM

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c293/RodneyHamp/SeanLandeta001.jpg?t=1205621906
ya bastard

Giants 'on the Clock' (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3293577)

Giants' defense raided but not enough to slow it down

The Giants are Super Bowl champs, so times are good for Tom Coughlin, Eli Manning and Co. Repeating will be difficult, but the Giants are built for the long haul. Although their defense was raided a bit this offseason, this team remains intact for the most part. The defense, led by coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, should once again wreak havoc on quarterbacks. The Giants will have a huge bull's-eye on their chests this season and must deal with being the hunted rather than the hunter. That is easier said than done, especially in a brutal division like the NFC East. If Manning continues his impressive growth, this team will be among the NFL's elite again.

Key Additions
New York retained both its kicking specialists and signed veteran Sammy Knight as a stop-gap option for the departed Gibril Wilson at safety. These are far from exciting maneuvers, but punter Jeff Feagles is still playing at a high level, and the Giants desperately needed to add a safety to the mix before the draft. Knight is a low-end starter who is at his best near the line of scrimmage. He led the Jaguars in tackles last season and is a smart veteran who will help keep everyone aligned properly. But don't expect Knight to be a game-changing member of this defense. It is also noteworthy that the Giants signed Coughlin, who wisely changed his coaching style last season, to a long-term deal. This obviously is key for this team's long-term stability, as was locking up defensive end Justin Tuck before free agency opened. This offseason is similar to last year's, during which GM Jerry Reese did very little in free agency. But he then brought in an outstanding draft class that was instrumental in New York's title run.

Key Losses
As is the case with most Super Bowl teams, the rest of the league was aggressive in signing the Giants' free agents, particularly off their outstanding defense. Wilson is now in Oakland, LB Kawika Mitchell is in Buffalo and LB Reggie Torbor is in Miami. The two linebackers, however, are quite replaceable. The Giants will look to fill those spots in a draft filled with several solid prospects. Wilson was not tremendous, but he was a key cog to this defense and will be missed.

Remaining Questions
The Giants could use linebacker and secondary help, particularly at safety. This is not a strong safety draft, but linebacker help should be available, giving Spagnuolo another talented, versatile piece on the second level of this defense. The Giants could still lose Michael Strahan to retirement. If that happened, Mathias Kiwanuka likely would move back to defensive end, his more natural position. However, this would further weaken the linebacker corps. Adding a wide receiver and offensive-line depth would not be a bad idea either if a value selection emerges at these positions on draft day. Overall, the Giants are in very good shape.

Mock Draft: Giants OLB Jerod Mayo, Tennessee
Todd McShay: The Giants are in need of a legitimate upgrade at linebacker and Mayo possesses just the type of athleticism and versatility to find a nice niche within this unit.

JPetrucci23

03-17-2008, 05:55 PM

ya bastard

:D I want them back!

Jimmy's Dignity

03-18-2008, 02:12 PM

once again...all thanks to JPetrucci on this one...

Good quality, CHEAP jerseys (http://www.fantastic-goods.com/category-44-b0.html)

askewcore

03-18-2008, 02:14 PM

once again...all thanks to JPetrucci on this one...

Good quality, CHEAP jerseys (http://www.fantastic-goods.com/category-44-b0.html)

...How is this possible? They are knockoffs, corrrrrect?

Jimmy's Dignity

03-18-2008, 02:23 PM

...How is this possible? They are knockoffs, corrrrrect?

very much so knocked off...sewn on #'s, name, Super Bowl patch. $17 for the jersey, $20 for shipping coming over from China. From what I read on Big Blue Interactive (http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=280617), they run a little large. So a 50, which is an L, is almost an XL

JPetrucci23

03-18-2008, 05:10 PM

I got a white Eli superbowl jersey with the C patch. It came on Saturday, and I am just blown away at the quality of it. I would easily pay over $100 for this if I saw it in a store, the quality is that good. take advantage of this deal!!!!!!!!!

If you have ever seen the 'replithentic' jerseys, its better than those. The replithentic jerseys have the replica jersey material, with sewn on letters, not the authentic jersey material. This seems to be somewhere in-between, if not the actual authentic material.

Jimmy's Dignity

03-18-2008, 05:23 PM

I liked that someone on BBI called them "Authentically replicated"

Oh, Willie Jo signed with Oakland this past weekend....have fun buddy. And apparently Danny Clark is expecting to be the starting LB on the weakside, instead of Gerris Wilkinson.

askewcore

03-18-2008, 09:48 PM

And apparently Danny Clark is expecting to be the starting LB on the weakside, instead of Gerris Wilkinson.

I'd be okay with either one. They should both get decent playing time, because Wilkinson has speed that Clark lacks, they would compliment each other well I think.

F WuJo. He was a big fat, Haitian bust.

JPetrucci23

03-19-2008, 12:34 AM

Former Giant William James (Peterson) signed a 2 year deal with the Bills, leaving the Eagles. Good, I can root for him again. He was always a nice guy to the fans at camp.

JPetrucci23

03-24-2008, 07:49 PM

http://blog.nj.com/ledgergiants/2008/03/large_seubertextension

Rich Seubert extended to 2012

Seubert, the Giants' starting left guard the past two seasons, signed a contract extension through the 2012 season today, according to someone familiar with the negotiations. Financial terms of the deal were not immediately available.

Seubert, who turns 29 on Sunday, had two seasons remaining on his existing contract. After the Super Bowl win, he presented the Giants with a contract proposal that would allow him to finish his career with the team. Seubert's proposal also made his recent salary increases (from $1.05 million to $2 million this upcoming season) due to incentives reached more palatable for the Giants' salary cap because they'll now be converted into a signing bonus and spread over five years.

Seubert told the front office he understood his extension might mean he'll once again become a backup in the future. But the most important part of the deal for him was his being able to remain with an organization that has been loyal to him.

how the fuck can you not love this guy?? "Number 69, reporting eligible"

http://blog.nj.com/ledgergiants/2008/03/seubert_extended_through_2012.html

JPetrucci23

03-31-2008, 02:24 AM

we're the fuckin champs!

GarlicButterSau

03-31-2008, 10:17 AM

I know right? I still can't believe it sometimes.

JPetrucci23

04-01-2008, 01:00 PM

http://assets.giants.com/uploads/HOMEPAGE_STORY/080619BF131A45D6A9733CD38E224288.gif

:icon_eek:

Jimmy's Dignity

04-01-2008, 02:26 PM

only thing I'd change is I'd have made the ny out of sapphires so there's some blue in it

other than that...it's fuckin beautiful

LilJimmyRbinson

04-01-2008, 03:12 PM

only thing I'd change is I'd have made the ny out of sapphires so there's some blue in it

other than that...it's fuckin beautiful

I agree. I can't tell if that is a color picture or not.

JPetrucci23

04-01-2008, 05:25 PM

http://assets.giants.com/uploads/HOMEPAGE_STORY/F2512BAB73D240B38D3221BEE75C5054.gif

they seemed to have changed the image location, so here it is again.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

04-01-2008, 08:47 PM

those knockoff jerseys sure do look tempting. if they're as good a JPetrucci says, i might have to get me one.

and yeah, it still feels unbelievable that they won the Super Bowl. i have the game on my iPod and i'm still on edge every time i watch it.

Jimmy's Dignity

04-01-2008, 08:49 PM

DJ Evel Ed

04-01-2008, 09:18 PM

Did they release the preseason odds to win the superbowl yet?
Last August the Giants were like 50-1(maybe even 100-1) and the Patsies were 3-2 to go all the way. Colts were 9-1 to repeat. I will definitely put $$$ down for the repeat given the O and D lines are intact and Eli is young, healthy, and schmarter.

I'm dying to see what the line will be for the Patsies to win it. I bet those fucks in Vegas leave it at 3-2 again.
Giants should be at least 10-1. I'll drop 100 on them, just as long as Opie sticks with those Fags from Cambridge.

DJ Evel Ed

04-01-2008, 09:33 PM

Arizona Cardinals50 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Atlanta Falcons100 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Baltimore Ravens45 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Buffalo Bills50 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Carolina Panthers50 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Chicago Bears30 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Cincinnati Bengals40 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Cleveland Browns18 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Dallas Cowboys6 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Denver Broncos30 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Detroit Lions90 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Green Bay Packers25 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Houston Texans60 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Indianapolis Colts6 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Jacksonville Jaguars14 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Kansas City Chiefs90 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Miami Dolphins90 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Minnesota Vikings30 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
New England Patriots7 - 2 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
New Orleans Saints15 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
New York Giants15 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
New York Jets50 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Oakland Raiders90 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Philadelphia Eagles15 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Pittsburgh Steelers25 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Saint Louis Rams60 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
San Diego Chargers6 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
San Francisco 49ers80 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Seattle Seahawks25 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Tampa Bay Buccanneers40 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Tennessee Titans40 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)
Washington Redskins40 - 1 (https://sportsbook.gamingsystem.net/sportsbook/www.sportsbook.com/getodds.xgi?categoryId=520#)

Patsies are 7-2??? HAHAHAHAHA Giants are 15-1??? Damn Im droppin $$$ on that shit.

JPetrucci23

04-10-2008, 06:50 PM

the World Champions have waived DT Manny Wright

Jimmy's Dignity

04-11-2008, 03:10 AM

the World Champions have waived DT Manny Wright

http://www.fluxw.com/dolphincry.gif

too bad that asshole couldn't put up any of the skills he did at USC

GLENN_THE_TOOL

04-12-2008, 11:33 AM

they're releasing the games against Dallas, Green Bay, and Super Bowl XLII in their broadcast entirety on DVD in June. i think it's the first time Warner Bros. and NFL Films is doing this. hopefully it'll include more postgame stuff and the parade.

The Road to the Super Bowl XLII (http://www.amazon.com/NFL-New-York-Giants-Super/dp/B0015NQEMY/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1208010078&sr=8-8)

JPetrucci23

04-13-2008, 06:59 PM

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/02/04/manning3333.jpg

GLENN_THE_TOOL

04-15-2008, 12:08 AM

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/02/04/manning3333.jpg

i know, it never gets old looking at it, does it? i still love the photo of a wide-eyed Brady looking completely stunned that he lost what truly was the biggest game of his life and that his perfect season went up in smoke.

JPetrucci23

04-15-2008, 03:10 PM

the 2008 victims:

http://www.giants.com/gameday/schedule2008.asp

2008 Schedule (PRE- SEASON)
Date Time Network Opponent
Saturday, 8/9 7:00 PM ET WNBC @ Carolina
Monday, 8/18 8:00 PM ET ESPN Cleveland
Saturday, 8/23 7:00 PM ET WCBS @ Jets
Thursday, 8/28 7:00 PM ET WNBC New England

2008 Schedule (REGULAR SEASON)
Date Time Network Opponent
Thursday, 9/4 7:00 PM ET NBC Washington
Sunday, 9/14 1:00 PM ET FOX @ St. Louis
Sunday, 9/21 1:00 PM ET CBS Cinicinnati
Sunday, 9/28 BYE BYE BYE BYE
Sunday, 10/5 1:00 PM ET FOX Seattle
Sunday, 10/13 8:30 PM ET ESPN @ Cleveland
Sunday, 10/19 1:00 PM ET FOX San Francisco
Sunday, 10/26 4:15 PM ET FOX @ Pittsburgh
Sunday, 11/2 4:15 PM ET FOX Dallas
Sunday, 11/9 8:15 PM ET NBC @ Philadelphia
Sunday, 11/16 1:00 PM ET* CBS Baltimore
Sunday, 11/23 4:15 PM ET* FOX @ Arizona
Sunday, 11/30 1:00 PM ET* FOX @ Washington
Sunday, 12/7 1:00 PM ET* FOX Philadelphia
Sunday, 12/14 8:15 PM ET* NBC @ Dallas
Sunday, 12/21 1:00 PM ET* FOX Carolina
Sunday, 12/28 1:00 PM ET* FOX Minnesota

JPetrucci23

04-15-2008, 05:22 PM

giants.com had a typo when i first posted that, the 10/13 game against Cleveland is a Monday night.

JPetrucci23

04-25-2008, 08:48 PM

One of the insiders over at BBI has posted that its a done deal, Shockey is gone.

Steam

04-25-2008, 09:53 PM

Shockey was the player who made me truly happy to be a Giants fan again for the first time since the days of Rodney Hampton. I still wear the jersey and will continue to wear the jersey.

Best of luck to him in New Orleans.

Steam

04-25-2008, 10:17 PM

To anyone who bought those jerseys that JD posted the link to on the last page, you still happy with them? The quality good?

JPetrucci23

04-25-2008, 11:21 PM

Actually, 3 different insiders are now saying its a done deal. I'm incredibly pissed about this. I hope these guys are wrong, but they have good track records of being right.

And Steam, yes. I'm serious, you would be a FOOL to not take advantage of those jerseys. Tuck jerseys will be added to the site soon, within a week or 2. If you saw these jerseys in a store, they would be listed for at least $150.

Steam

04-25-2008, 11:25 PM

Actually, 3 different insiders are now saying its a done deal. I'm incredibly pissed about this. I hope these guys are wrong, but they have good track records of being right.

And Steam, yes. I'm serious, you would be a FOOL to not take advantage of those jerseys. Tuck jerseys will be added to the site soon, within a week or 2.

They are out of the blue Manning jerseys right now so I'll wait for that. Is the $20 shipping PER jersey?

JPetrucci23

04-25-2008, 11:43 PM

i think its 17 for every additional one. even so, $37 for one of these jerseys is an insane deal.

Jimmy's Dignity

04-26-2008, 01:14 AM

if Shockey does get traded, I want at least a 2nd rounder, a starting saftey, & a swap of picks in the 5th round

askewcore

04-26-2008, 01:40 AM

if Shockey does get traded, I want at least a 2nd rounder, a starting saftey, & a swap of picks in the 5th round

x2.

I would like them to ship him to Atlanta for two of their three second round picks and then a late round pick on top of that.

Fuck Crosby

04-26-2008, 02:18 AM

From ESPN...

Where's Jeremy Shockey? Still a member of the New York Giants.

New Orleans's apparent deal for tight end Jeremy Shockey has hit a delay because of the Giants' demand for more than a No. 2 draft pick for the former Pro Bowler, ESPN's John Clayton reports.

The Saints have been debating offering a No. 2 pick, according to sources, but some in the organization would prefer including no more than a No. 3 pick. New Orleans officials' reluctance makes the deal, which could get done on the draft-day clock or Saturday morning before the draft, difficult to pull off.

The Giants have already conducted a physical on Shockey, which could be offered to the Saints if he can't make it to New Orleans in time to have one. Sources indicate the Saints are seriously interested in Shockey, so a deal is likely to get done.

Saints general manager Mickey Loomis this week has declined to discuss players under contract with any other team, and has been evasive while meeting with reporters at the Saints' training headquarters. He has apologetically said that he did not want to tip off other teams to the Saints' draft plans.

The 28-year-old Shockey, who earned the first NFL championship of his career in January, broke his leg on Dec. 16 in a game against the Washington Redskins and did not play in the Super Bowl.

He finished the 2007 regular season with 57 receptions and three touchdowns.

Information from ESPN.com's John Clayton and The Associated Press was used in this report.

JPetrucci23

04-26-2008, 10:49 AM

For the record...
madtr1 : 2:10 am
I have been told the deal is done. I have heard it is for a 2nd and 2 4th's - but now the Saints are dragging their feet. However it works out, it is my understanding that he is gone.

And I say this somberly as I am a huge Shockey fan.

this guy has gotten a lot of stuff right, including naming spags as the new DC a couple of days before it was announced, and saying last year that TC was not going to get fired. but we shall see.

JPetrucci23

04-26-2008, 08:16 PM

YES!!!! the saints kept their pick!

Jimmy's Dignity

04-26-2008, 08:22 PM

We're not out of the woods yet, but Saints & Bills both kept their picks & we now are the proud owners of Kenny Phillips, a safety out of Miami in the Ed Reed mold...albeit not as good

JPetrucci23

04-26-2008, 08:40 PM

I love this draft so far. Kenny Phillips is a Giant and Shockey is still a Giant.

not to mention the cheap pop when we picked!!!!

GarlicButterSau

04-26-2008, 09:06 PM

Kenny Phillips will be arrested before week 6. Did you see the size of that entourage?

Miami players are criminals. I hate the pick.

Steam

04-26-2008, 09:24 PM

Kenny Phillips will be arrested before week 6. Did you see the size of that entourage?

Miami players are criminals. I hate the pick.

I flipped over to ESPNews to catch their interview with him and he seemed like an "articulate" fellow.

I like the pick.

GarlicButterSau

04-26-2008, 09:33 PM

I flipped over to ESPNews to catch their interview with him and he seemed like an "articulate" fellow.

I like the pick.

So was Sean Taylor.

askewcore

04-28-2008, 02:56 AM

YOUR 2008 NEW YORK GIANT DRAFT CLASS

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5296/kennyphillipsiy9.jpg
1st round: Kenny Phillips-6'2'' 213-Saftey-Miami

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9367/terrellthomasiq6ym7.png
2nd round: Terrell Thomas-6'1'' 202-CB-USC

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8559/manninghamds9.jpg
3rd round: Mario Manningham-5'11'' 178-WR-Michigan

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7554/akehlnm07sv5.jpg
4th round: Bryan Kehl-6'2'' 242-LB-BYU

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1337/al21pi8.jpg
5th round: Jonathan Goff-6'2'' 245-LB-Vanderbilt

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8002/andrewoodsonek9.jpg
6th round: Andre Woodson-6'4'' 230-QB-Kentucky

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3345/340xeh6.jpg
6th round: Robert Henderson-6'3'' 278-DE-Southern Mississippi

I am really happy we got Manningham, but would have also liked to end up with Dan Connor. Maybe we have finally found the WR who can be a big game breaker, like Tim Carter could have been if he could have caught. And if his bones weren't made of paper mache. I dont know if I like the Terrell Thomas pick, but at least he is from a good program. I like Kenny Phillips alot though, his is real athletic and I think has a big upside.

Jimmy's Dignity

04-28-2008, 10:43 AM

yeah, not gonna lie...the Terrell Thomas pick kind of confused me. I have NO idea about him or how he fared at USC. He was a starter out there, right?

GarlicButterSau

04-28-2008, 10:54 AM

Agreed. Infuriated me that they passed up on Connor twice. They need a linebacker right? So instead of addressing one of their main concerns in round two, they blow a fourth and a fifth round pick on two linebackers who roughly equal one Connor in my eyes.

And why take a QB? Didn't we sign Carr? What about J-Load? Anthony Wright?

To me they wasted three picks. Manningham could turn out to be a steal as long as he straightens up. He's not big, but he's a big play maker and has been for a while. That was actually the pick I liked the most because it was a high risk/reward pick. But to me it looks riskier because they didn't address their main needs right away. To me the two linebackers they drafted after Manningham look like an "oops, we forgot, better make up for that second round pick."

Honestly though - what am I complaining about? We just won a Superbowl.

At least we're not Eagles fans this morning - ewwwww.

mik3

04-28-2008, 12:28 PM

I LOVE the Woodson pick, so much. Let him be the 3 for two years so he can pick up the pro offense. Then you have a very capable backup.

Jimmy's Dignity

04-28-2008, 12:35 PM

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/4/28/stillagiant128538705211093750.jpg

righty

04-28-2008, 09:31 PM

Besides Eli, Lorenzan and Wright now they have Carr and Woodson. there s gonna some fun at training camp to make the team.

mik3

04-28-2008, 10:09 PM

Besides Eli, Lorenzan and Wright now they have Carr and Woodson. there s gonna some fun at training camp to make the team.
I'd guess Eli, Carr, Woodson. If they had faith in Lorenzen he'd have been the backup last year and Carr wouldn't have already been picked up.

askewcore

04-29-2008, 02:52 AM

I'd guess Eli, Carr, Woodson. If they had faith in Lorenzen he'd have been the backup last year and Carr wouldn't have already been picked up.

I agree.

And I was reading up on that Jonathan Goff kid, he is like a fuckin genius. He was enrolled in the Johns Hopkins University Gifted and Talented Student Program when he was younger. I dont know what it is, but it sounds bad ass.

GarlicButterSau

05-06-2008, 10:51 AM

Thought this was an awesome picture... so I'll share.

Giants Stadium (http://sports.espn.go.com/travel/gallery/gallery?id=3375571&image=1#)

GarlicButterSau

05-06-2008, 10:54 AM

Thought this was an awesome picture... so I'll share.

Giants Stadium (http://sports.espn.go.com/travel/gallery/gallery?id=3375571&image=1#)

Jimmy's Dignity

05-06-2008, 03:43 PM

Diehl gets extended (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3383997)

Giants pay Diehl for successfully tackling new role

Replacing Luke Petitgout as the Giants left tackle, David Diehl proved he was the real deal and helped the Giants win Super Bowl XLII. Diehl's reward is a new deal that compensates him for the importance of protecting Eli Manning's blindside.

The Giants recently ripped up the former left guard's old contract and rewarded him with a new six-year, $31 million contract. The key to the deal is annual escalator clauses that increase Diehl's salaries between $750,000 and $1.1 million a year as long as he plays offensive tackle.

It's rare for a team to redo a long-term deal toward the beginning of the contract. Diehl was entering the third year of a six-year, $15.5 million extension he signed in 2005 that was scheduled to expire in 2011.

But Diehl was in a rare situation. He made the tough transition from left guard to left tackle and performed at close to a Pro Bowl-caliber level. Since coming to the Giants six years ago, Diehl has started 80 consecutive games. With the exception of Petitgout's release last year, the Giants offensive line has grown together for four seasons and has evolved into one of the NFL's better blocking units.

Aside from his play, Diehl won over Giants management by the way he's handled the transition and his ensuing success. The new contract was signed before the draft, but Diehl kept it to himself.

JPetrucci23

05-08-2008, 11:16 AM

Jersey Numbers assigned

Phillips - 21
Thomas - 30
Manningham - 82
Kehl - 53
Goff - 94
Woodson - 3
Henderson - 90

Also, Michael Johnson changed his number from 43 to 20

moegolden

05-08-2008, 03:34 PM

people here will appreciate this
http://wackbag.com/showthread.php?p=2615383

JPetrucci23

05-15-2008, 12:59 AM

According to Strahan, the Giants’ players (and executives, and anyone remotely associated with the team) will receive their Super Bowl rings in a private ceremony on May 29. From what I’ve heard, more than 200 rings will be given out (53 players plus guys on the practice squad, scouts, coaches, front office staff, medical staff, equipment staff, etc., etc. …). The players’ rings – which I think are different from the rings given out to others – are valued at more than $10,000 each.

By the way, Strahan showed me a photo of the ring that had been doctored by a friend of his to include blue in the “ny” logo on the top of the ring. Now that looked sharp. The blue in the logo really stood out amid all the diamonds. That’s the way they should’ve been done in the first place, instead of the all-white-gold, all-diamond look the players chose.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/05/strahan-saga-continues.html

Jimmy's Dignity

05-15-2008, 02:55 AM

^^^^^

blah blah blah, PICTURES YOU LAZY JEW!!!!

JPetrucci23

05-29-2008, 11:10 PM

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8872/giantsrings529an5.jpg

http://media.philly.com/images/a0818e9c-b9b0-4b87-a7af-b6739f10e5ae.jpg

CHAMPS MOFO!!!!!!!!

Jimmy's Dignity

05-30-2008, 01:11 AM

....are the Lombardi Trophy bases blue in Mike's ring?

NY shoulda been blue, rest diamonds

GLENN_THE_TOOL

06-03-2008, 07:31 PM

picked up the Road to Super Bowl XLII set today, watching the SB again right now with Strahan's commentary turned on. hope he comes back to the show again, but he might be avoiding talk radio for a long while after that whole controversy with his ex. maybe when he retires, he'll come back and show the bbboys his new ring.

and despite my hopes, there's no postgame stuff. oh well, there's always YouTube.

JPetrucci23

06-09-2008, 10:52 AM

JPetrucci23

06-09-2008, 12:30 PM

the title defense will happen.... minus Michael Strahan, who is retiring.

The New York Giants will begin their road to a defense of their Super Bowl title when mini-camp begins on Wednesday. That defense, however, will be attempted without the services of their team leader Michael Strahan.

Strahan has told FOXSports.com exclusively that he has decided to retire.
...
"It was important that my teammates knew which way I was going before they got on the field to start the work to defend our title," the team's all-time sack leader said from California. "It's time. I'm done."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8225886/Coming-off-Super-Bowl-win,-Strahan-to-retire

GLENN_THE_TOOL

06-09-2008, 06:14 PM

hat's off to Strahan going out on top. he's undoubtedly a first-ballot Hall of Famer, and you just know he's got a career in color commentary ahead of him. though the Giants lose him, they've still got Osi, Tuck, and Alford up front, all of whom are scary motherfuckers to any O-line.

Tickle The Bag

06-12-2008, 01:16 AM

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/scoreboard

Still can't get enough of that. I even saved it to my HD.

askewcore

06-13-2008, 11:43 AM

So is Kiwi gonna move back to DE now? I dont like him at OLB and I think it'd be a good idea to platoon Tuck and Kiwi.

Jimmy's Dignity

06-19-2008, 08:43 AM

I don't think they've said what they were planning on doing as far as Kiwi's concerned...He's apparently doing quite well at linebacker, so they may keep him there. They did sign Reynaldo Wynn, so they're not desperate to have him back at DE. I'm interested in seeing how Kehl & Pope(?), the LB's we drafted, fare in camp.

speaking of camp...Plaxico expects contract "situation" resolved before camp (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3451661)

Not practicing at mandatory minicamp created an uproar, but Plaxico Burress thinks his contract situation will be peacefully resolved before next month's training camp.

The New York Giants wide receiver wants a new deal and he told WIP radio in Philadelphia on Tuesday that he thinks it will happen. Camp begins at the University at Albany on July 25.

"Honestly, I think my situation is going to be rectified before training camp," Burress said, according to NJ.com. "I'm not going to worry about it, but I did state that I was unhappy with my current situation with my contract. It'll be worked out."

Burress, who caught a game-winning 13-yard touchdown pass with 35 seconds remaining in the Super Bowl to give the Giants a 17-14 win over the previously unbeaten New England Patriots, has three years remaining his six-year, $25 million deal. He will earn $3.25 million this year, $3.5 million in 2009 and $3.75 million in 2010.

But after big deals for Randy Moss, Terrell Owens and Javon Walker, Burress wants a raise. But he also wants to stay in New York.

"I don't want to go anywhere. I made that very evident," Burress told the radio station, according to NJ.com. "If I wanted to go somewhere else or if I didn't want to be there, I would have let that be known, too.

Moss, Owens and Walker have worn three different uniforms in their careers. Burress said he doesn't want that.

"I love the situation I'm in, I love the guys I play with, I love the city and I just love everything about me playing football up there," he told the station. "I just want to end my career there. I don't want to travel all around the globe trying to play football. I'll be 31 in August, so I just want to play my last five or six years there and end my career there and hopefully win another championship."

Jimmy's Dignity

06-19-2008, 04:03 PM

Tickle The Bag

06-19-2008, 11:06 PM

Bradshaw was arrested for violating probation from arrest when he was in college. They had the link on ESPN.com but it's gone now. He's been in jail since sunday and is serving 30 days according to the way I interpreted it. Fucking cute.

Edit:
Found it on NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d808eb808&template=without-video&confirm=true

Jimmy's Dignity

06-19-2008, 11:13 PM

yeah I saw that...not only was it a violation of probation from when he was in college, but from when he was a MINOR

wonder what he did that was in violation of said probation

Tickle The Bag

06-20-2008, 10:03 PM

I don't know but hopefully that fucker keeps his shit together, he contributed nicely last year. Ward and Jacobs get the job done but injuries WILL happen in our backfield. The only reason he was still available in the 7th round was because of his character issues. Hopefully there are no further issues but don't hold your breath.

Tickle The Bag

06-21-2008, 08:17 AM

hey, there's a reason to watch American Chopper tonight...they're making a NY Giants motorcycle (http://www.giants.com/news/headlines/story.asp?story_id=27169)

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3748/080619chopperpf1.gif
looks pretty cool, 9pm tonight on TLC.

on a side note, should BCH or Papagolash split everything since the Super Bowl into a new thread for this upcoming season? "whaa"

Minicamps have started. The Offseason is over, time to get back to business.

I can't wait for opener against the Skins. I'll be in either 102 row 17 or 328 row 22 all season. See you animals there!

JPetrucci23

06-23-2008, 05:57 PM

Jared Lorenzen, we hardly knew ye

EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ - The Giants today trimmed their roster by waiving five players, including backup quarterback Jared Lorenzen, who had been with the organization since 2004.

Jared Lorenzen has been with the Giants since 2004

Also released were four first-year players: Wide receiver Todd Lowber, long snapper Nick Leeson, defensive tackle Brian Soi and offensive lineman Jacobs Hobbs

http://www.giants.com/news/headlines/story.asp?story_id=27174

JPetrucci23

06-24-2008, 04:54 PM

Adam Shefter on Sirius radio is reporting that Snee signed a 6 year extension.

edit - and now its all over the place. Garafolo's blog: http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/06/breaking_news_giants_extend_sn.html

The Giants and right guard Chris Snee have agreed in principle to a six-year contract extension that will keep one of the NFL's best young linemen in blue through the 2014 season, according to someone familiar with the progress of negotiations. The person, who requested anonymity because the deal hasn't been signed and announced by the team, did not provide financial details but said Snee will now be among the top five highest-paid players at his position.

Snee, coach Tom Coughlin's son-in-law, was scheduled to be a free agent at the end of the coming season. The Giants second-round pick in 2004 (one round after the team selected QB Eli Manning, has started 59 of 64 regular-season games since winning a starting job in his rookie training camp.

More to come on this.

MG

Jimmy's Dignity

06-26-2008, 07:18 AM

that 6 year contract...$43.5 MILLION (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3460730) :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

Looks like we don't need to worry about offensive line continuity for a while...Diehl is under contract until 2013, Snee's new contract keeps him put until 2014, Seubert's good until 2013, Kareem McKenzie & Shaun O'Hara are both under wraps until 2012 :bigok

Jimmy's Dignity

06-27-2008, 01:27 PM

Booooooooo seat licenses (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-giants-seatlicenses&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Giants fans to dig deep for seats in new stadium

The New York Giants will charge fans between $1,000 and $20,000 for the right to buy season tickets in the new stadium they are building with the New York Jets.

The Jets have not said if they plan to sell personal seat licenses, but Thursday’s announcement makes it appear inevitable both teams will do so.

The Jets did not immediately return a call.

Giants co-owner John Mara said most of the 82,500 seats in the stadium, scheduled to open in 2010, will carry seat license fees of $1,000. Less than 5,000 seats will carry license fees of $20,000.

Mara acknowledged he is worried about angering longtime fans of the Super Bowl champions. The charge applies to each seat a ticket-holder owns.

“We tried hard to come up with a plan that guarantees everybody the opportunity to stay in the building,” he said.

He said it would be “extremely difficult” to build the $1.6 billion stadium in the Meadowlands—whose cost is being split evenly by the two teams— without asking fans to help pay for it through seat licenses. Mara said the license fees will raise $300 million to $400 million.

Personal seat licenses are used by team owners to build stadiums. The one-time payments guarantee the buyer the right to control the seat for as long as the team plays in that stadium, and can be transferred or sold for whatever the market will bear. Besides paying once for the seat license, fans still have to pay the cost of season tickets each year.

Jimmy's Dignity

07-17-2008, 02:28 PM

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8203/8ffkspzvw5.jpg

Giants won 3 ESPY's last night apparently...Best Upset, Best Game, & Best Play

louthree

07-18-2008, 11:23 PM

If anyone has John Mara's email address, he needs cock pictures. I hope the fucker dies a slow death in a construction accident at his $1.6 billion dollar stadium. I've had 4 tickets in my family for 45 years. Now it's going to cost me $40K to keep them, on top of the $50 per ticket, per game increase. Fuck you John Mara. :mad4:

Giants now no different

Friday, July 18, 2008
In an era when most pro sports franchises treated fans like human ATMs, available for cash withdrawal 24 hours a day, the Giants were different. They operated like an old-fashioned family business, one that valued their customers' loyalty over the size of their bank accounts.
That's gone now. Maybe your first reaction to the news that the Giants would charge up to $20,000 for personal seat licenses was outrage. Without question, PSLs are one of the great rip-offs in sports, a one-time fee for the privilege to cough up more cash to buy tickets.
But for me, the feeling was sadness. The Giants are selling off a large part of what made them unique. For decades, they were a mom-and-pop shop that just happened to be part of the richest sports league on the planet.
Now, if you've had four seats near the goal line since Giants Stadium opened in 1976, that shop will soon charge you $40,000 for the PSLs and $5,600 for the season tickets to keep them. There's another option: Move to the upper deck and "only" shell out $4,000 for the PSLs and $3,400 for the tickets.
The team blames the current financial crisis and soaring construction costs in the new $1.6 billion stadium. But will the bells and whistles of the new building really be worth a second mortgage to the average fan?
"This is no way to treat the fans," *** Freyland said yesterday. The Bergen County resident has had his tickets since the team played in the Yale Bowl in the early '70s, and plans to pay the $1,000 fee to keep them. Still, he feels betrayed. "This isn't the way the Giants used to do business."
The proof was on display before every game. Walk around the Meadowlands parking lot, visit the first tailgate you see, and you might find a fan like Jerry Foley. He signed up for the soon-to-be-irrelevant season-ticket waiting list in the early 1990s, and after barely moving an inch for years, realized he'd be an old man before he actually got tickets.
So he sent team patriarch Wellington Mara a three-page letter explaining how he bled Giants blue, how every game day he would tailgate in Lot 13-A with a bullhorn to lead fans in cheers. He closed with this kicker: "All I want in life are healthy kids and Giants tickets."
A few weeks later, he got a call from Mara's office -- he was getting his season tickets. Writing a letter won't work any more. Now, fans will have to sign a check, one with a lot of zeroes, maybe to one of the ticket brokers that will gobble up all the PSLs they can find in search of a profit.
Wellington Mara is gone now, but his memory lives on with fans -- and in angry letters to his son. John Mara called the decision to sell PSLs "the hardest one -- by far" of his career running the Giants, made most difficult by the letters that tell him his father would never have done this.
"That phrase gets to me," Mara, the team's CEO, said in a phone interview yesterday. "They know where my sore point is. And they're probably right. But he didn't have to face this size of debt, either. ... As the costs went up, there was no other way of doing this."
Mara did not want to do this. He was about as fair as you can be when asking fans to subsidize your billion-dollar business. He could have charged much more -- just take a look at what the Dallas Cowboys are doing at their new stadium, where the most expensive PSLs are $150,000.
In some cases, the Giants will be handing fans, who choose to sell their PSLs, a tidy severance package for their years of fandom. The team is asking fans not to view the PSLs as an investment, but there's little doubt some will jump on the chance to sell them for several times what they cost now.
Hey, the team is trying to make a quick buck off them. Why shouldn't they do the same?
The crowd at Giants games is going to change dramatically, and so is the way the fans feel about this franchise. And don't think for a minute that Jets owner Woody Johnson is going to be a hero and pass on the PSLs. That announcement of the Jets' plans is no doubt coming soon, which means fans from the two teams will pick up a significant chunk of that $1.6 billion price tag.
This is how it works in pro sports. It's not your loyalty that matters to teams any more, it's the size of your wallet. For most of their existence, the Giants were an exception. Not any more.

askewcore

07-20-2008, 06:24 PM

louthree

07-20-2008, 09:31 PM

Good for you. I have to pay out my fucking ass for tickets because people like you have had tickets for 50 years, now I'm supposed to feel bad that you have to pay extra? You dont like it? Give your tickets up, I'll pay for em.

I talked to my "financial adviser" and he's come up with the solution for me. Purchase all 4 licenses now at $10K each, then flip two of them for $40K in 2011. This way I'll still have 2 tickets, make a 100% profit on the other two, and still have $20K invested "in the bank' on my two tickets that I keep. Plan "B" is flip all 4 licenses in 2011 for $80K, and watch the games at home in HD.

Sorry, you'll still be paying out your ass. Just a lot more.

Jimmy's Dignity

07-21-2008, 11:16 AM

Training Camp opens on Thursday, first practice is Friday (http://www.nypost.com/seven/07202008/sports/giants/champing_at_the_bit_120650.htm)

Champing at the Bit
Ears ringing with praise, Giants to begin repeat bid

Never before have the Giants arrived on the campus of the University at Albany as Super Bowl champions, and they've been heading upstate for training camp since 1996. As the start of a new preseason arrives, what, pray tell, can the Giants do for an encore?

"Let's get better," Eli Manning said.

Indeed, improvement is on the minds of the Giants as they report Thursday and hit the field Friday morning for their first practice. It will be a 24-night stay - slightly shorter than usual - and during that time the Giants will hear early and often how their rousing playoff upsets, culminating in the astounding 17-14 victory over the Patriots in Super Bowl XLII, were so inspirational and unexpected. How the Giants balance those wonderful memories with the mundane and grind of a hot, sweaty camp should go a long way in determining how productive their stay will be.

"Last year is OVER," cornerback Corey Webster said. "Time to start working toward a new goal for this team right here. It's a different team than we had last year, new people, totally different year. We start from the bottom and try to work our way back to the top."

After a fairly turbulent offseason, the Giants might not confront many glaring summertime issues. They must replace defensive end Michael Strahan, who for the bulk of his 15 years dominated on the field and off it with his oversized personality.

All eyes and ears on the very first day will be on tight end Jeremy Shockey, initially to see if he even shows up, and afterward to gauge his attitude and physical health. The only way Shockey will defuse all the negativity swirling around him is if he reports to camp, puts his bitterness behind him, and shows his surgically-repaired leg and ankle can withstand the pounding.

There are others to watch: Plaxico Burress wants more money and likely will get it before camp. If not, in fairly non-threatening terms he said he might not participate in practice. There will be a battle for the backup quarterback job, with reclamation project David Carr hoping to fend off Anthony Wright. The defensive starting unit needs to find a new weak side linebacker to replace Kawika Mitchell, who signed with the Bills. Gerris Wilkinson is the favorite to win the job, with free-agent addition Danny Clark also in the mix.

"I definitely feel like [the coaches] feel it's my time to be there," Wilkinson said.

The competition for the starting safety spots figures to be intense, with two newcomers (veteran Sammy Knight and rookie first-round pick Kenny Phillips) looking to unseat returning players James Butler and Michael Johnson.

"I didn't win a Super Bowl," said Knight, a veteran of 11 NFL seasons. "I take my hat off to them. For me coming in, it's like kind of riding the wave a little bit. For me, man, I'm hungry, if anything it's that added incentive for me - I can smell it, I'll see the ring, I see the banners, it pushes me that much more, especially seeing the joy these guys have from winning that Super Bowl."

In addition to monitoring Shockey's mindset and health, two other players coming off broken legs - linebacker Mathias Kiwanuka and running back Derrick Ward - will also look to make strong comebacks. Super Bowl hero David Tyree is coming off knee surgery and likely will be limited at the start of camp.

The Giants are scheduled for 29 practice sessions, with 10 two-a-day workouts, including eight night practices. Unlike previous years, the team will break camp prior to the second preseason game. Usually, the Giants break camp before the traditional third preseason game against the Jets.

Training Camp Schedule: (http://www.giants.com/TrainingCampSchedule.asp)
July 25th: Practice 1 = 8:40-10:40am
Practice 2 = 3:20-5:20pm
July 26th: Practice 1 = 8:40-10:40am
Practice 2 = 3:20-5:20pm
July 28th: Practice 1 = 8:40-10:40am
Practice 2 = 6:10-8:10pm
July 29th: Practice = 2:40-4:50pm
July 30th: Practice 1 = 8:40-10:40am
Practice 2 = 6:10-8:10pm
July 31st: Practice = 2:40-4:50pm
August 1st: Practice 1 = 8:40-10:40am
Practice 2 = 6:10-8:10pm
August 3rd: Practice 1 = 8:40-10:40am
Practice 2 = 6:10-8:10pm
August 4th: 2:40-4:50pm
August 5th: Practice 1 = 8:40-10:40am
Practice 2 = 6:10-8:10pm
August 6th: Practice = 10:30-11:30am
August 7th: @ Detroit 7pm
August 9th: Practice 2:40-4:50pm
August 10th: Practice 1 = 8:40-10:40am
Practice 2 = 6:10-8:10pm
August 11th: Practice = 2:40-4:50pm
August 12th: Practice 1 = 8:40-10:40am
Practice 2 = 6:10-8:10pm
August 14th: Practice = 2;40-4:50pm
August 15th: Practice 1 = 8:40-10:40am
Practice 2 = 6:10-8:10pm
August 16th: Practice = 2:40-4:50pm
August 17th: Practice = 8:30-10am

Training Camp events (http://www.giants.com/news/headlines/story.asp?story_id=27203)

Giants PLAYER AUTOGRAPH NIGHT
On Monday, July 28th the Giants football team will spend time signing for the fans immediately following the evening practice. Practice begins at 6:10 pm. When the practice is over (practice usually lasts about two hours), Coach Coughlin will ask all the players to stay after and sign autographs for all of the fans. The players will then proceed to various areas of the fence and autograph alley (the walkway the players take back to their facility). In the past, players have signed autographs for about 20-30 minutes. In order to maximize the number of fans reached, the players do not typically sign more than one item. Cameras are permitted at practice, however, the fence around where the players practice prohibits any staged photographs during the autograph session. Come see your favorite Giants practice and stay for autograph opportunities!

Giants YOUTH DAY
On Monday, August 11th the Giants are hosting Giants YOUTH DAY at Training Camp. Come watch your favorite players get ready for the 2008 season! Practice begins at 2:40 pm. Fans can enjoy the day's youth focused activities including the youth football inflatable area. Following the afternoon practice, young Giants fans and their families can stay to enjoy an interactive Giants program. Since this event is all about our young Giants fans, there will be giveaways, face painters, an expanded football inflatables area, skill contests, staged drills and more! At the start of the program, a player will head over to the center of the Stadium Field where kids can see him and take pictures from the bleachers (Aaron Ross, R.W. McQuarters, and Sam Madison have all attended the event in past years)! There are no autograph opportunities during this program; however, there will be special raffles for children to win autographed Giants memorabilia. The after practice program will last for about 30 minutes, which is entirely dependant on the players post-practice regimens.

Giants Albany Idol: New and Improved!
Come out and watch contestants compete for the opportunity to sing the National Anthem at the Giants pre-season game on August 28th vs. the Patriots! The competition begins at the start of the evening practice at 6:10 pm on Tuesday, August 12th. In a new and improved format, the finalists from 104.5 the Buzz's radio contest will sing their favorite song for one minute. The group will then be broken down to a select few who will then sing the National Anthem, competing for the chance to sing on August 28th. Contestants compete on the Stadium Field and there will be a special Giants celebrity guest judge. There will be giveaways and raffles so be sure to come out and support your favorite singer! Think you have what it takes to sing the National Anthem at Giants Stadium? Click here to find out more about how you can sign up and be the next Giants Albany Idol.

Past and Present Brunch
The 3rd annual Past and Present Event will be held on August 10th after the 8:40 am practice. Jessie Armstead and Chris Calloway will be the alumni hosts for the VIP viewing of practice and the brunch. There will be a Q&A session and autograph opportunities with them. Tickets are $125 and available on a limited first come, first serve, basis. Please call (201) 935-8111 x3030 to reserve your spot.

Gatorade Beat the Heat
Gatorade will be promoting the "Beat the Heat" program, highlighting the importance of keeping hydrated during summer activities. The program features a partnership with the Kendrick Fincher Foundation, an organization named after a young football player who died from heatstroke during football two-a-days and is dedicated to heat safety education. Keep an eye out for these kiosks and Donation Days, where fans can donate money to support proper hydration.

2008 Power Rankings: Offseason (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=0&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)

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Giants
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Browns
Vikings
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Buccaneers
Redskins
Cardinals
Bills
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Jimmy's Dignity

07-21-2008, 03:38 PM

Jeremey Shockey....New Orleans Saint!!!! (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8364800/Sources:-Giants-to-trade-Shockey-to-Saints)

we pick up a 2nd & a 5th in next year's draft. I wonder if he's going to ask to get paid in beads...

JPetrucci23

07-21-2008, 05:09 PM

Shockey, go fuck yourself.

Jimmy's Dignity

07-22-2008, 02:17 PM

There's a potential that the Giants could wind up with the Saints 1st round pick instead of their 2nd. Here's how...

Saints traded their 4th rounder in '08 & a conditional second-or-third in '09 to the Jets for Vilma. If Vilma plays 85% of their defensive plays & signs a contract w/ the Saints, the Jets would wind up getting their 2nd round pick in 2009.

Since that trade happened first, the Jets would get the 2nd round pick. As a result, the Saints would have to send their 2010 first round pick to the Giants to make up for not being able to live up to their part of the Shockey trade

Jimmy's Dignity

07-22-2008, 03:27 PM

Plaxico still not happy w/ his contract, but will NOT hold out (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3500077)

Report: Burress upset with contract talks but won't hold out from camp

One Giant headache is gone now that Jeremy Shockey has been traded to the Big Easy. Plaxico Burress is trying to assure the Giants he won't become another one for the defending Super Bowl champions.

Burress, who has been campaigning for a new contract, told The Star-Ledger of Newark, N.J., that he will report to training camp on time when it begins Thursday.

"I'm going to be at camp. I'm going to get out and practice," Burress told The Star-Ledger. "I said that I may not have, but the smarter thing for me to do is to show up and show my teammates I'm ready to play football."

That doesn't, however, mean he'll be a happy camper.

"It shouldn't have gotten to this point. It just shows me as a person how important I really am to them," Burress told the newspaper. "This thing's a two-way street. It's not a one-way. … It just opens your eyes a little bit to the people you're walking around with. You look them in the face and they smile at you."

Burress told the newspaper that he remains hopeful that a new deal can be agreed on. However, sources told the New York Daily News that the two sides remain far apart in negotiations.

Burress, who caught a game-winning 13-yard touchdown pass with 35 seconds remaining in the Super Bowl to give the Giants a 17-14 win over the previously unbeaten New England Patriots, has three years remaining on his six-year, $25 million deal. He will earn $3.25 million this year, $3.5 million in 2009 and $3.75 million in 2010.

But after big deals for Randy Moss, Terrell Owens and Javon Walker, Burress wants a raise.

However, one source told the Daily News that the Giants "have gone about as far as they're willing to go."

Agent Drew Rosenhaus also says his client will report to camp on time, however.

"I don't think that we've ever had discussions about him holding out," Rosenhaus told the Daily News. "That's not him. Plaxico will be at camp regardless of the status of the negotiations. We've been able to separate the negotiations from what Plax has to do for the team."

Burress missed five team meetings in last month's minicamp and, according to the Star-Ledger, was fined $42,000. Shockey, who was traded to the New Orleans Saints on Monday, also was fined $25,000 by the team for "conduct detrimental to the team," the newspaper reported.

According to the Star-Ledger, Shockey spent the entire minicamp inside Giants Stadium while his teammates were practicing outside. Coach Tom Coughlin told reporters that Shockey wasn't excused from practicing with the team. The newspaper reported that it's unclear whether Shockey was fined for sitting out the practices or for his reported screaming match with general manager Jerry Reese.

Jimmy's Dignity

07-23-2008, 09:27 PM

From the "No Shit" Department...
Coughlin: Shockey's attitude led to trade to Saints (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3502417)

ALBANY, N.Y. -- Two days after the Super Bowl champions traded disgruntled four-time Pro Bowl tight end Jeremy Shockey, Giants coach Tom Coughlin kicked off training camp on Wednesday by stressing the importance of the team over the individual.

"I think what my position will be and what I think the team will be ready to accept is the fact that the reason we won was because of team," Coughlin said a day before players reported to the University at Albany. "Team over self was why we won."

Coughlin believes the team mantra played into Shockey's desire to leave the organization after six productive years, ending up with the New Orleans Saints.

"I think that with the quality of the individuals that we have, the character of our team, that they certainly are going to realize that the attitude about believing in one another, about supporting one another, about the idea of taking the names off the back of the jerseys, that is what served us best last year," Coughlin said.

In other areas, Coughlin said:

• The Giants are ready for the challenge of being targeted this season.

• Receiver David Tyree, whose phenomenal catch led to the game-winning touchdown in the Super Bowl -- is not close to being ready to go following offseason knee surgery.

• The team hopes no action will be taken by the NFL against running back Ahmad Bradshaw, who was jailed for a month this summer on an old probation violation.

Coughlin spent most of the opening minutes of his news conference talking about Shockey, who missed the playoffs with a broken leg and then complained about his role in the offense in the weeks after the stunning upset of the New England Patriots.

"Jeremy Shockey is an excellent football player," Coughlin said. "He is an individual who loved the game, loved to play the game, was a good physical blocker, and a guy when he caught the ball and had it in his hands could make things happen."

However, Shockey was also a distraction that neither Coughlin nor team executives would tolerate. Hence, their willingness to accept second- and fifth-round draft picks from the Saints as compensation, saying it was in the best interests of the team and Shockey, 27, a former first-round draft pick.

Shockey didn't just complain. He accused the team of leaking information to the media. While nursing a badly sprained ankle, he refused to even make a token appearance on the field during a veteran minicamp in June and then got into a shouting match with general manager Jerry Reese.

It all resulted in the trade just days before the opening of camp. It was a deal that surprised teammates and even tight ends coach Mike Pope, who learned of it while flying into Newark Liberty International Airport.

Pope said he believes that in some cases a player can be in one place too long.

"I think the circumstances that happened with the injury and the things that went on in his mind -- having to sit and watch the Super Bowl and watch the team continue to succeed -- I don't think his worth in his own mind diminished, but I think he realized, as this organization realized, the fans and all you folks realized, that organizations and teams can keep moving when individuals aren't there," Pope said.

Pope said he spoke to Shockey several times but was unable to get him to reconcile with the team.

Pope said it will be hard to replace the contributions Shockey made to the running game, but he hopes that second-year pro Kevin Boss, who has gained 20 pounds in the offseason, will step up this season.

The goal for the Giants will be to avoid the problems that have plagued recent Super Bowl winners. New York has failed to get back to the playoffs in the three seasons after they appeared in the title game.

Coughlin plans to discuss that in his first meeting with the players, while reminding them that hard work got them a title last season.

"No one ever gave us or anybody else anything and we don't expect it," he said. "We are not asking for anything."

Pope remembers the challenges from the previous years-after.

"We will be challenged like most of these players can't even imagine," Pope said. "It is going to be undeniably the hardest year in their short careers and they are going to find that out very quickly."

righty

07-24-2008, 05:55 PM

I think that Boss Mathews and Johnson will be able to replace Shockey. I liked shockey but he seemed liked he wanted it to be about him. When Barber retired they didn't just rely on 1 running back, they used 3 they should do the same with the TE's . I do hope they eventually resign Burress because he 's been a key player and he has definitely change since he's been on the Giants. Meaning he's not like shockey or the way he was in Pitt. Let's GO Giants

Jimmy's Dignity

07-24-2008, 08:19 PM

Tyree on the PUP list (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3503993)...same with Gerris Wilkinson & OT Jonathan Palmer

JPetrucci23

07-25-2008, 12:21 PM

Plax sat out the morning practice, but Rosenhaus in up in Albany with Reese, so I figure a deal is just about done.

ceeps04

07-26-2008, 08:12 PM

I hope they get this Burress deal done and behind them. With him limping around in every game last year like a crippled and still making big plays, I can't wait to see him on the field this year fully healthy.

Jimmy's Dignity

07-31-2008, 06:33 PM

Huh...well this is a pisser

Giants' Bradshaw Will Spend ANOTHER 30 Days in jail (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Giants-Bradshaw-will-serve-another-30-days-in-j?urn=nfl,97719)

According to a story today in the Bristol Herald-Courier Ahmad Bradshaw's recent 30-day stint in the Southwest Virginia Regional Jail in Abingdon, Va., was actually only the first of two 30-day terms he's scheduled to serve. The second, according to the report, will be served by the New York Giants running back, next offseason.

The story is fascinating and digs a little deeper into the mystery surrounding Bradshaw's jail term, which has never fully been explained. According to his lawyer, the Giants' running back was jailed due to a violation of a probation from an incident that occurred when he was a juvenile. And both the lawyer and the Giants insist that the incident occurred before he was drafted by his current team. Virginia authorities have been uncooperative with the media, and Bradshaw has refused to speak to the press since camp opened. The NFL, meanwhile, is investigating the incident and has not ruled out the possibility that Bradshaw could be suspended for violating the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy.

According to various sources, the reason for the mystery is that authorities in Virginia screwed up. The sources insist that the incident that triggered the probation was the infamous incident in 2006 when Bradshaw, then at Marshall, stole a PlayStation from a teammate. Apparently when he was convicted, the state overlooked the fact that the crime was a violation of a previous probation. Apparently sometime during the Super Bowl run, when Bradshaw's story was told over and over again in the press, someone realized the oversight and informed authorities. Then a deal was struck for Bradshaw to serve the time he should've served in 2006.

fucking tattletale douchebags

Jimmy's Dignity

08-05-2008, 03:58 PM

Giants vs. Lions on Thursday night

Coughlin said that the starters will play the first quarter, 2nd & 3rd stringers take it the rest of the way. Plax (ankle), Tyree (knee/PUP list), Manningham (quad), Steve Smith (groin), & Madison (sports hernia) all aren't going to play...Snee (shoulder) & Olivea (back) are up in the air

JPetrucci23

08-05-2008, 06:09 PM

should be a big game for the extra WRs - Moss, Hixon, Hall, etc. Those 3 (along with Tyree) are fighting for 2 (possibly 3, depending on how the roster shapes up) spots.

Tickle The Bag

08-05-2008, 07:37 PM

Jimmy's Dignity

08-07-2008, 01:16 PM

Kickoff's at 7!

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7766/deadlionsn8.jpg

caniseeyourtaint

08-07-2008, 10:27 PM

Gotta love these guys...I'm a Giants fan but geeze! All the way to Nicaragua for a 19-0 Pats shirt to taunt Boston fans.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2008/08/06/oh_the_humanity/?page=full

Oh, the Humanity!

Remember when 19-0 was so close you could taste it? A New York Giants fan treks the dirt roads to a one-room shack in an impoverished Nicaraguan village in search of a painful piece of Super Bowl memorabilia for Patriots fans everywhere

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IN A PERFECT WORLD, the hat would be sitting on Tom Brady's mantle and the woman holding the hat in an impoverished and remote village in Central America would still have her teeth.
. (Globe Photo / Todd Vachon)

. (Aaron Kaplowitz)

But there is perfect and there is near perfect, and the slightest difference explains how I came to be standing in a puddle of mud, carefully balancing a 75-pound purple backpack on my shoulders in San Gregorio, Nicaragua, urging my new best friend Hannibal to assure the toothless woman that we were serious about giving her actual money for this hat.
When the New York Giants upset the New England Patriots 17-14 in Super Bowl XLII, the loss kept the Patriots from finishing the season a perfect 19-0. With the game's outcome in question until the final play, the NFL had both Giants and Patriots Super Bowl champions apparel ready on the field for the victorious team's players, leaving nothing to chance when cameras captured the first celebratory shots. Reebok and the NFL added an extra touch to the Patriots' championship shirts, a testament to the team's storied place in history. A "19-0 Perfect Season" patch was sewn onto the hats, and the T-shirts carried the same message.
So when the 18-1 Patriots failed to live up to Reebok's prophecy, World Vision, a Christian humanitarian organization, arranged to ship the memorabilia to people in need in nearly inaccessible places, ensuring that these treasured items would not see the light of day back in the States.
But with a trip to Panama and Costa Rica already in the offing, Ilan, my roommate at Boston University, and I, both lifelong Giants fans, decided that dipping into Nicaragua for a few days to try and get our hands on the rare collectors' items was a necessary addition to our itinerary. And a way for us to stick it one last time to our friends in Boston who were still crying over the Super Bowl.
OUR ADVENTURE started in Managua. For a dollar each, we ducked into a microbus for the one-hour drive to Diriamba, the town that had been reported as the destination for the Patriots gear. They packed 17 riders into 14 seats, with one generous traveler angling his body out of the window. Squished against a grimy window in the back row, I jockeyed for leg space while squabbling with Ilan about the absurdity of our trek.
"We don"t speak a lick of Spanish," I yelled to him over the engine noise. "How are we going to do this without an interpreter?"
"Relax," he said.
"Do you expect all the villagers to just walk around wearing these shirts and hats?" I said.
"Relax. We'll figure it out."
The teenager wedged between us shot me a perplexed look, probably cursing the karma that got him sandwiched between two bombastic schmoes from New Jersey.

As if on cue, our fellow passengers turned around in unison, scrutinizing us. They became animated and argumentative. We had no idea what they were saying, but it became clear that money was at the root of it. The man sitting in front of Ilan turned around and told him that we had to pay an extra dollar for our massive backpacks.
It turned out that Lawrence was an oral surgeon in training who was born in Nicaragua and had become a fan of American football while living in New Orleans and Tampa. We told him about our quest for the Patriots hats and shirts that were sent to Diriamba. He said we were crazy, but offered to take us to his in-laws' pharmacy in Diriamba, where someone might be able to help.
Once there, we humped our backpacks through the streets, searching for signs of Patriots perfection on every corner. Lawrence's wife seemed confused by her husband's bizarre posse, but welcomed us into her parents' store. They made several calls on our behalf, but no one seemed to know about World Vision's gift.
Ilan and Lawrence disappeared into a back room to scan the Internet for more clues while I waited with the bags. Suddenly, Ilan rushed into the room.
"We know where it is," he said, grabbing his backpack.
Ilan and Lawrence had watched a video imbedded in a Time.com (http://time.com/) article that mentioned World Vision taking the hats and shirts to San Gregorio, 8 kilometers away. We navigated our way to the bus station.
As our microbus bumped and slid for 45 minutes along the mucky road connecting Diriamba and San Gregorio, I caught a glimpse of a man trudging up the road wearing a blue and white Patriots Super Bowl Champions hat. We were on our way.
San Gregorio's mud-soaked road farted underneath our sinking feet as a flock of teenage boys descended upon us like vultures encircling a carcass. We were scouring the area trying to find someone -- anyone -- who spoke English when we met Jose Samuels.
Standing on his porch, Samuels introduced himself in broken English, hoping to understand why two disoriented foreigners were pointing to kids' shirts while repeatedly pantomiming a football-like throw. He welcomed us into his one-room home and offered us coffee. I began explaining the purpose of our mission. He looked confused.
While Ilan waited with the bags, I followed Jose down San Gregorio's main road. We turned up a trail in time to meet a cow herd lumbering toward us. Jose never flinched, leading me to a patio where a group of women were settling into their creaky rocking chairs. Jose disappeared into the dilapidated dwelling.
When he returned, 6-year-old Luna was by his side. Luna took one look at me and understood why her uncle had brought her outside.

"What are you looking for?" she asked me in perfect, unaccented English.
"Where did you learn English?" I replied.
Luna explained she was from Morristown, New Jersey, just 15 minutes from my own home. She and her mother were visiting family in San Gregorio. Luna got excited at the mention of the New York Giants but didn't know where I could find the shirts, nor did any of her relatives.
I RETURNED WITH JOSE to his home, where Ilan was sitting with the Samuels family. Ilan and I lugged our bags out of Jose's house and found some villagers who thought that the shirts were available at the church. We were nearing the battered church's doorway when a grungy young man on horseback approached us.
"Ingles," he said.
"Ingles," we repeated.
The guy on the horse pointed to a slight man in sagging blue jeans and a stained polo shirt, who introduced himself in clear English as Hannibal. According to Hannibal, he had fled Nicaragua in the '80s, sneaking into the United States after the Sandinista National Liberation Front ousted the Somoza regime. Hannibal told us that he had gotten married in Los Angeles, where his wife and children still lived, but that he was deported several years ago when his lawyer failed to renew his immigration documents.
He offered to help us, and soon we were accosting villager after villager, receiving new information and hot leads each time. We snaked our way through the back roads and happened upon a young woman sitting at a rectangular entry carved into a chicken-wire fortress. Hannibal spoke to her, then waved Ilan and me inside, where I saw people standing around a circular pavilion, looking into a dirt pit enclosed by long wooden boards, and I heard a frantic cacophony of clawing, clucking, and banging. Only then did I realize that I was standing among roosters being trained for cockfights.
Walking past the furious birds, we made our way to a counter where a teenage girl was selling beer. Jessica told Hannibal she used to have a Patriots shirt but didn't know where she had put it. Besides, she said, why would we want it? The XXL-sized shirts were too big for humans.
I glanced at my watch. It was 4:30 p.m. Hannibal told me the final bus out of San Gregorio left at 5.
Hannibal quickly led us to a row of one-room hovels, where we met a wrinkled woman sitting outside in a mint-green dress and a white apron. Her warm smile revealed a mouth lacking teeth. Hannibal and the woman talked for a few minutes. I reminded Hannibal that we were willing to pay money for a hat or shirt. The woman entered her shack and returned with a black plastic bag.
My fingers curled with anticipation as Ilan removed a fresh, clean shirt and a never-worn hat. This could have been Brady's. This should have been Brady's.
The woman couldn't believe we were willing to pay money for these things. We gave her $5, a sizable amount in the area, and handed Hannibal an equal finder's fee before sprinting down the road as the bus began to gain speed out of town. The driver slowed to let us on.
On the bus, I studied the "19-0 Perfect Season" hat and pointed out to Ilan the line etched into the red and blue Velcro strap: "WE WANTED IT MORE."
Not as much as we did.

Ronreddog

08-07-2008, 10:50 PM

10 - 10 in the 4th. I can't watch it though, have the Saints/Cardinals game on ESPN HD.

JPetrucci23

08-07-2008, 11:36 PM

Shit, very not good news courtesy of Garafolo: http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/08/ny_giants_rookie_lb_goff_suffe.html

DETROIT - Rookie LB Jonathan Goff suffered a back injury in tonight's game against the Lions.

Goff, the team's fifth-round pick in April, suffered a fractured transverse process in the second quarter of tonight's game against the Lions. That's (potentially) a bad injury. It was exactly what former Giants DE Adrian Awasom suffered last year against the Packers when he collided with OL Tony Palmer on a kickoff. Awasom was out for the season after only two games.

The transverse process is a bone that juts off the vertebrae and links the spine to muscle.

More to come on this. I don't want to guess that Goff's season is already over, but that might be the case. We'll see.

9:03 p.m. UPDATE This is probably going to depend on the severity of the fracture. Just found a few examples of guys missing a few games while other guys were done for the year. So we won't jump to conclusions.

9:06 p.m. UPDATE And this link says the average time lost is 3.5 weeks, so maybe he'll be okay. Again, we'll see.

9:34 p.m. UPDATE Posted this in a comment below but wanted to add here: In the quick research I've done here, it seems the location of the injury will be key. With Awasom it was in his neck. With other guys who had it in their lower back (Edgerrin James in 2003), it was only a few weeks. Will find out the location after the game if I can.

askewcore

08-07-2008, 11:58 PM

Kenny Phillips looked really good tonight. He made me feel okay about losing Gibril, I think he'll he just fine. He made some really solid tackles, and he seems like he can fly around the field. I also am excited we picked up Craphonso Thorpe, he was explosive at FSU and if he makes the team, we could have a good balance of possession guys (Toomer, Smith, Plax) and speedy playmakers (Manningham, Moss and Thorpe).

So pumped for the season.

Jimmy's Dignity

08-12-2008, 02:02 PM

Hey...the Steelers & Eagles threads are stickied

ahem....Mike or BJ...I think it's time to rectify this and put the Super Bowl Champion New York Giants thread up there too

Papagolash

08-12-2008, 02:41 PM

Hey...the Steelers & Eagles threads are stickied

ahem....Mike or BJ...I think it's time to rectify this and put the Super Bowl Champion New York Giants thread up there too

I was going to ask if we should make a new thread, but fuck it. Stickied.

GO GIANTS!!!

JPetrucci23

08-14-2008, 06:15 PM

Shane Olivea placed on IR and he will be waived.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/08/new_york_giants_waive_shane_ol.html

Jimmy's Dignity

08-15-2008, 09:59 AM

that sucks...Olivea would have been a nice bit of insurance in case either Diehl or MacKenzie went down

Giants play on Monday night against Cleveland...I just realized that we play them again, for real, on a Monday night game this time in Cleveland in week 6. Be interesting to see how this game plays out

Jimmy's Dignity

08-18-2008, 09:45 PM

Okay, Eli & Hixon are having themselves a very nice little night

goddamn did Robbins have a sweet pressure there

hahahhaa, Droughns & Bradshaw on punt block? Oooooooohhh...and now Hixon runs one back for the score...this kid is screaming for a great spot on the team

ceeps04

08-18-2008, 10:02 PM

This is the best performance I have ever seen in a preseason game...

WOW! the defense is flying around, the offense looks like a well oiled machine.

I can't wait for the 4th

Jimmy's Dignity

08-19-2008, 12:16 AM

ooooofffah...Kay-Jay Harris (RB) looks like his season just went bye-bye. Right ankle rolled underneath him after a horse-collar tackle. No flag, but who cares...sucks that he's injured though :(

Danny Ware looks damned good as 4th string running back or wherever he is on the depth chart

askewcore

08-19-2008, 04:27 AM

this kid is screaming for a great spot on the team

I think its safe to say he'll make the team.

Tyree, maybe not so much now though, since we have 1,000 WRs and he's been hurt. He might go down in Giants history next to Phil McConkey. Special team star, amazing super bowl catch, never heard from again.

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/248011.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0ED4BAFB580BF3C11E2 284831B75F48EF45
http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/image/1987/01/01/001308527.jpg

Jimmy's Dignity

08-19-2008, 01:33 PM

what works in Tyree's favor is that he's on the PUP list...so he doesn't count as a body on the roster...I think what'll wind up happening is he'll wind up on the IR and still on the team

Jimmy's Dignity

08-22-2008, 01:24 PM

Tynes to have exploratory surgery on knee (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txgiantstynes&prov=st&type=lgns)

Giants K Tynes to have surgery Friday

NEWARK, NEW JERSEY (TICKER) —New York Giants placekicker Lawrence Tynes will miss his second straight preseason game Saturday night - and perhaps a lot longer.

The Star-Ledger reported that Tynes will undergo exploratory surgery on his left knee Friday that will determine how much time he is expected to miss.

Citing three sources with direct knowledge of the injury who wished to remain anonymous, the newspaper reported it is possible that Friday’s procedure could reveal an injury severe enough to land Tynes on season-ending injured reserve.

Following Thursday’s practice, coach Tom Coughlin said there was no update on Tynes, who also sat out Monday’s victory over the Cleveland Browns.

“I don’t know what to tell you there,” Coughlin said. “He says he is (better), but they haven’t given him the green light.”

Josh Huston will replace Tynes in the lineup Saturday. He converted all five extra points against the Browns but missed his only field goal attempt from 42 yards.

Last season, the 30-year-old Tynes kicked a 47-yard field goal in overtime to beat the Green Bay Packers in the NFC championship game and send the Giants to the Super Bowl. He was rewarded with a five-year, $7 million contract extension in February.

But Coughlin said he has no idea if Tynes will be ready for the regular-season opener vs. Washington on September 4.

“Right now, we need to know at least what the expectation is,” Coughlin said.

BCH

08-22-2008, 01:26 PM

Crap

JPetrucci23

08-22-2008, 01:28 PM

Tynes had his exploratory surgery, and he is okay.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/08/some_good_news_for_new_york_gi.html

Some good news for New York Giants K Tynes?
by Mike Garafolo/The Star-Ledger
Friday August 22, 2008, 10:51 AM

Lawrence Tynes' exploratory arthroscopic surgery today on his knee revealed no structural damage, according to Giants vice president of communications Pat Hanlon.

The soreness in his knee will continue to be rehabilitated, but the kicker who lifted the Giants into Super Bowl XLII with a winning 47-yard field goal in the NFC Championship Game might well not face the prospect of being out of action for the entire season.

MG

BCH

08-22-2008, 01:30 PM

Un-Crap

askewcore

08-22-2008, 10:41 PM

Way to earn that money, Larry.

Who is that kid who is kicking in preseason? Hope they keep him aboard, for insurance.

Jimmy's Dignity

08-22-2008, 10:52 PM

guy they signed as a back-up is Josh Huston (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/08/exgiant-huston-tabbed-as-tynes.html). He competed down to the wire last year in training camp w/ Tynes and barely lost out. (btw, link = article about the signing)

SurlyTruckDrivr

08-24-2008, 03:43 PM

from rotoworld;

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Osi Umenyiora will need surgery on his injured knee and miss the entire 2008 season.

The details of Umenyiora's injury and surgery are unknown, but this is a huge loss. The Giants could handle Michael Strahan retiring because of Justin Tuck, but losing Umenyiora will force them to either move linebacker Mathias Kiwanuka to right end or start old journeyman Renaldo Wynn there. Tuck will likely see more double teams on the strong side now, hurting his IDP value

SurlyTruckDrivr

08-24-2008, 03:46 PM

here's the espn story

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3551499

The defending Super Bowl champion Giants reportedly will likely have to play this season without one of their best pash rushers.
The Star-Ledger, citing an unnamed source, reported Sunday that Osi Umenyiora (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4514) suffered serious ligament damage in his left knee Saturday night that will likely sideline him for the rest of the season. The Pro Bowl star defensive end will have surgery, the newspaper reported, rather than try to rehabilitate the injury.
X-rays taken during the Jets' 10-7 win were negative. An MRI took place on Sunday.
"I talked to him when he was in the locker room, in the training room," fellow defensive end Justin Tuck (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8488) said Saturday of a halftime exchange. "Obviously, he was down. It's unfortunate when any injury occurs, but hopefully, it is nothing serious and he will not miss any time."
Umenyiora left the locker room before the game ended and was not available for comment.
Umenyiora told Tuck that "he was good," Tuck said.
The two-time Pro Bowler was hurt with 10:48 left in the half on a third-down incomplete pass by the Jets' Brett Favre (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=112).
Defensive tackle Barry Cofield (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9710) did not get a chance to talk to Umenyiora but he recalled the play.
"It looked like he was turning the corner and just kind of took an awkward step," Cofield said Saturday. "The turf is hard and playing at that speed on that edge, you can tweak things."
The 26-year-old could not put any weight on his leg. He was helped off the field with his arms wrapped around the shoulders of two trainers.
Giants coach Tom Coughlin said Saturday that Umenyiora was in pain.
"The doctors told me there was no ligament damage," Coughlin said when pressed.
Umenyiora started all 16 games last season and had 52 tackles and a team-high 13 sacks. He added seven tackles in the Giants' run to the Super Bowl.
The Giants are a bit thin at defensive end this season with the retirement of seven-time Pro Bowler Michael Strahan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=495). Tuck has replaced Strahan. New York also signed veteran Renaldo Wynn (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1206) in the offseason.
With Umenyiora sidelined, the Giants could move strongside linebacker Mathias Kiwanuka (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9618) back to defensive end. He was switched to linebacker last year so the team could put its best 11 players on the field.
"You are always concerned any time a player like that goes down," Kiwanuka said Saturday. "That's not good. We know the type of player he is and if he can come back he will. But we have the personal to step up in his absence."
Kiwanuka sidestepped moving back to defensive end, saying that decision is up to the team.

Steam

08-24-2008, 04:21 PM

Fucking gay ass exhibition games against the Jets always do it. Nice way to celebrate the 10 year anniversary of Sehorn curtailing the '98 season.

Fuck!

DocSavage

08-24-2008, 04:23 PM

Go Eagles!

askewcore

08-24-2008, 04:39 PM

I think I'm gonna cry about Osi. Is it too late for Strahan to pull a Favre and come back?

Go Eagles!

HAHAHA.

Look everyone, this guy think Philadelphia is gonna win something.

DocSavage

08-24-2008, 04:54 PM

I think I'm gonna cry about Osi. Is it too late for Strahan to pull a Favre and come back?

HAHAHA.

Look everyone, this guy think Philadelphia is gonna win something.

:haha7: so sorry for your loss...hearts and prayers...yada yada yada :icon_wink

Jimmy's Dignity

08-24-2008, 04:59 PM

in a word...............fuck

askewcore

08-24-2008, 05:09 PM

:haha7: so sorry for your loss...hearts and prayers...yada yada yada :icon_wink

As long as you root for the Eagles, you have no reason to have any pity on the Giants. We actually know what it's like to win the big one. Not fucking choke on it. Have fun missing the playoffs...again.

http://willdo.philadelphiaweekly.com/archives/102306mcnabbpuking-01.gif
Even your QB cant stomach his shit team.

BCH

08-24-2008, 05:49 PM

He's having the surgery on Tuesday. He's done for the season. That Blows.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

08-24-2008, 06:20 PM

fuck fuck fuckety fuck! i didn't even know until a buddy of mine called up and told me. losing Osi for the year is a heartbreaker. some are fielding the possibility that they might try to lure Strahan out of retirement now, but i don't see that happening. now guys like Tuck and Kiwanuka will have to step up and we'll have to see what kind of magic Spags can work with a team that's lost not one, but TWO defensive leaders.

EDIT: i forgot, we also lost Kawika Mitchell too. he bailed in the offseason. so that's three.

ceeps04

08-24-2008, 07:28 PM

Fucking fuckity fuck.

Strahan signed a contract with Fox so he isn't coming back. Renaldo Wynn sucks ass and is nothing more than a bad backup. Put Kiwi's hand on the ground and move someone to his linebacker spot as the depth at linebacker is better than it is at DE. I could name 3 players that are irreplaceable. Eli, Osi and AP. Having one go down for the season before it fucking even starts is very depressing.

Steam

08-24-2008, 07:34 PM

As long as you root for the Eagles, you have no reason to have any pity on the Giants. We actually know what it's like to win the big one. Not fucking choke on it. Have fun missing the playoffs...again.

Well, they might not have won the Super Bowl but I would wager a guess that they made a shitload of money with the "Super Bowl Clock Management with Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb" DVDs.

BCH

08-24-2008, 08:35 PM

Well, they might not have won the Super Bowl but I would wager a guess that they made a shitload of money with the "Super Bowl Clock Management with Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb" DVDs.

tee hee

Tickle The Bag

08-24-2008, 08:59 PM

:haha7: so sorry for your loss...hearts and prayers...yada yada yada :icon_wink

its "thoughts and prayers" that Tony Danza says isn't it?

GLENN_THE_TOOL

08-24-2008, 10:10 PM

its "thoughts and prayers" that Tony Danza says isn't it?

i believe the phonetic pronunciation is "tawtz nd pwayrz."

JPetrucci23

08-24-2008, 11:32 PM

what a phenomenal fucking birthday present. This blows, but its not the end of the world. Luckily, Accorsi had a major hard-on for DE's. Either Kiwi moves back to DE (which I think is the most likely scenario), or they try to lure Strahan back with a shitload of cash. (Someone before said hes under contract with FOX so he can't come back - all of those contracts have clauses so they can return to the field if they want - see Keyshawn Johnson for instance)

It sucks that we will have to move Kiwi back, he was starting to look really good at LB, plus, when Osi returns next year, what do you do with Kiwi? Move him back to LB? Can't keep fucking around with him like that, let him sit and learn at LB or DE, don't keep moving him back and forth.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a trade. Danny Ware is making himself an extremely valuable chip, and teams around the league are looking for the next Ryan Grant.

Stay tuned, should be an interesting 11 days.

JPetrucci23

08-24-2008, 11:37 PM

oh, and as for the Eagles:

The Last 48 Years of NFL Championships:
1961 - Not the Eagles
1962 - Not the Eagles
1963 - Not the Eagles
1964 - Not the Eagles
1965 - Not the Eagles
1966 - Not the Eagles
1967 - Not the Eagles
1968 - Not the Eagles
1969 - Not the Eagles
1970 - Not the Eagles
1971 - Not the Eagles
1972 - Not the Eagles
1973 - Not the Eagles
1974 - Not the Eagles
1975 - Not the Eagles
1976 - Not the Eagles
1977 - Not the Eagles
1978 - Not the Eagles
1979 - Not the Eagles
1980 - Not the Eagles
1981 - Not the Eagles
1982 - Not the Eagles
1983 - Not the Eagles
1984 - Not the Eagles
1985 - Not the Eagles
1986 - Not the Eagles
1987 - Not the Eagles
1988 - Not the Eagles
1989 - Not the Eagles
1990 - Not the Eagles
1991 - Not the Eagles
1992 - Not the Eagles
1993 - Not the Eagles
1994 - Not the Eagles
1995 - Not the Eagles
1996 - Not the Eagles
1997 - Not the Eagles
1998 - Not the Eagles
1999 - Not the Eagles
2000 - Not the Eagles
2001 - Not the Eagles
2002 - Not the Eagles
2003 - Not the Eagles
2004 - Not the Eagles
2005 - Not the Eagles
2006 - Not the Eagles
2007 - Not the Eagles

XMScott

08-25-2008, 12:52 AM

J-E-T-S

SUCK SUCK SUCK

Thats what i heard on the escalators last night.
Its not right to talk shit back to the SuperBowl Champions. But now, fuck you!
8 sacks!
The Jets had just about no issue with the Giants pass rush.
Without those fixable issues on offense (penalties), the Jets would have destroyed the Giants. But eh, a win is a win. Even in pre-season.

askewcore

08-25-2008, 01:00 AM

J-E-T-S

SUCK SUCK SUCK

No Super Bowls in 39 years will get you that. http://whatsthefuss.freedomblogging.com/files/2007/12/namath.jpg
Look at that relevant picture of the most recent super bowl MVP of your dumb team.

Plus any group of fans who would let THIS fucking douche lead them in cheer deserves to be mocked by EVERYONE.
http://www.nfl-pictures.com/pics/nfl11.jpg
Drrrrr....I spell the team....Then I yell the name....fucking waterhead.

Without those fixable issues on offense (penalties), the Jets would have destroyed the Giants. But eh, a win is a win. Even in pre-season.

And if a frog had wings he wouldnt bump his ass when he hopped.

Fucking Jets fans suck.

oh, and as for the Eagles:

:clap::clap::clap:

That was great.

Steam

08-25-2008, 01:48 AM

You do have to give the Jets fans credit though. They sure like to celebrate the fact that they can spell their team's name. Considering most of them probably never made it past the sixth grade I think its a wonderful start.

Mod Edit: BTW, :love: John Cena :love:

tee hee, lookie what I can do!!

Mod Edit: Aww, his first mod edit. :)

Jimmy's Dignity

08-25-2008, 02:28 AM

The only fans who are more proud about their ability to spell are Eagles fans...they've got 2 extra letters!!!

Kiwi moves to DE with Tuck & Tollefson with Wynn as a "hey we need a body" guy. Should wind up replacing him with Wilkerson (Wilkinson?) but I would not be shocked to see Blackburn steal the spot instead. I'll guarantee that as soon as they got the results of Osi's MRI, they called Stray. Like the birthday-boy said...it's gonna be an interesting few days

JPetrucci23

08-25-2008, 11:29 AM

really? trash talking after a preseason game? really?

I guess when you are a Jet fan, a win really is a win in the preseason.

Jimmy's Dignity

08-25-2008, 12:02 PM

Report: Strahan open to returning (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3552159)

Looks like Osi's injury may not be as horrible a thing as we thought! Although when I saw pictures of Strahan on the sidelines, he looks like he lost a lot of weight

Reports: Strahan would consider returning, Giants open to idea

Former New York Giants defensive end Michael Strahan would consider returning to the team in the wake of Osi Umenyiora's season-ending knee injury, the New York Daily News has reported, citing an unnamed source.

According to the paper, Strahan, 36, who retired in the offseason after helping lead the Giants to a Super Bowl championship, would come back with the Giants if offered an $8 million contract for this season, according to a source close to the seven-time Pro Bowler.

"If the Giants make a sincere overture, it's a good chance that Strahan would consider coming back," the source said, according to the Daily News. "There are other things he has to take into consideration: the money and his contract with Fox."

Strahan currently holds a position at Fox Sports as an NFL studio analyst.

"But if the Giants really want him, they have a shot," the source said. "It's not out of the question."

The Giants appear open to the idea.

Co-owner Steve Tisch told the New York Post the Giants have warmed to Strahan returning.

"Would I like Michael to be a New York Giant this season? Absolutely. Absolutely," Tisch told the Post. "Will he be? I have no idea. I don't even want to put a percentage on it but things changed very quickly [Saturday] night and if one of the potential solutions is to reach out to Michael, worst-case, it's certainly worth a phone call.''

Strahan was in Greece on vacation Sunday when he heard the extent of Umenyiora's injury, the Daily News reported.

Strahan wouldn't confirm the possibility of returning in an interview with the NFL Network.

"I haven't heard from anybody else, so to say if I would or wouldn't is premature," Strahan said. "So I'm enjoying my retired life right now."

Coach Tom Coughlin said the team is considering all its options.

Strahan retired in June, ending a 15-year career highlighted by the Giants' stunning Super Bowl victory over the unbeaten New England Patriots.

Coughlin recently talked with Strahan about his new career working on Fox's pregame NFL show on Sundays.

"The only thing I talked with Michael about was his new challenge, moving forward in his new assignment and he was very excited about that," Coughlin said, according to The Associated Press.

Agent Tony Agnone said the Giants have not contacted him to ask about Strahan.

"Obviously, he loves the Giants and obviously he is working for Fox," Agnone said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "Right now he is relaxing and getting ready for his Fox gig."

Strahan missed all of training camp last season while mulling retirement. He reported to the team a little more than a week before the season opener and played well.

However, he trained while thinking about retirement last year and was in good shape.

The Giants open the season on Sept. 4 against the Washington Redskins.

JPetrucci23

08-25-2008, 01:05 PM

Kiwi has been moved to DE, Coughlin said it today and all the beat reporters are confirming it.

Vacchiano: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/

Tom Coughlin has a plan to replace Osi Umenyiora, and for the moment it doesn’t include Michael Strahan.

The coach announced a few moments ago that Mathias Kiwanuka will move back to defensive end after one year as a strongside linebacker.

“I talked with him yesterday,” Coughlin said. “He was more than willing to do whatever he could do in the best interests of the team.”

Coughlin said Danny Clark will work in Kiwanuka’s spot at strongside linebacker. That means Gerris Wilkinson will play on the weakiside.

As for Strahan, Coughlin said, “There hasn’t been any discussion that I’ve been involved in” about bringing him back. However, he also said “We’re going to explore every option.”

Garafolo: http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/beat_writers_blog/

With Osi Umenyiora out for the season, Mathias Kiwanuka will move back to defensive end.

Tom Coughlin confirmed the team's decision to take Kiwanuka, drafted in 2006 as a defensive end, from linebacker and move him onto the defensive line. Kiwanuka spent his rookie season at DE, but then transitioned to outside linebacker during the past two training camps.

More to come.

MG

also from MG's blog, an update on the Strahan watch:

Giants coach Tom Coughlin said he hasn't spoken with retired DE Michael Strahan since he was on the sidelines for the team's preseason game against the Browns and he hasn't been involved in any effort to lure him back to the team.

"There hasn't been any discussion that iIve been involved in there," Coughlin said after a morning walk-through. "We're going to explore every option that's available. The last time I talked with Michael he had accepted his new challenge and was very happy about that."

Coughlin didn't want to speculate further about Strahan's intentions and said there is no time table for a decision on that front. He added that even though Strahan missed training camp last year, "his mentality was different."

Jimmy's Dignity

08-25-2008, 01:14 PM

okay, that makes the most sense. I wouldn't be shocked if Strahan did come back, but if not before the season starts, it'll be during the bye week

JPetrucci23

08-25-2008, 04:56 PM

Minor news: Craig Dahl tore his ACL again (the OTHER one this time, sucks for the poor guy) and is out for the year.

Major News: The Giants have contacted Michael Strahan, and the 2 sides are talking abouta comeback.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2008/08/25/2008-08-25_source_talks_underway_between_giants_and.html

The Giants have reached out to the recently retired Michael Strahan, and talks are currently underway to see if they can lure him back for a 16th NFL season, the Daily News has learned.

According to a source close to Strahan, the seven-time Pro Bowler received a call from a Giants official Monday to gauge his interest in coming back to replace the injured Osi Umenyiora. The Daily News reported earlier Monday that Strahan is willing to come back if the Giants make a "sincere effort" to woo him and make an offer of $8 million for the year.

It's not immediately clear who in the organization called Strahan - who is on vacation in Greece and is currently planning to remain there until the end of the week - but several friends of his said Monday that he would definitely be interested in talking. A couple of those friends said he might ask the Giants for as much as $12 million, though another thought $8 million would be enough to lure the future Hall of Famer out of his brief retirement.

The Giants offered Strahan a deal worth $6.5 million with incentives back in the spring before he announced his retirement on June 9. Now that Umenyiora is out for the season with a torn lateral meniscus cartilage in his left knee, the Giants might be willing to up their offer.

For the moment, according to a Strahan friend, the Giants at least made the first step, by calling him to let them know that he was wanted and that they were serious about bringing him back. The talks are in the early stages, the source said, and it's not clear when Strahan will talk with the Giants again.

Earlier Monday, Tom Coughlin made the announcement that he planned to fill the void left by Umenyiora by moving linebacker Mathias Kiwanuka back to defensive end, the position he was drafted at back in 2006. Coughlin said he hadn't been involved in any internal discussions about Strahan, but he refused to close the door on Strahan's return.

"We're going to explore every option that's available," Coughlin said.

GM Jerry Reese indicated the same thing in a statement, which read in part "We'll continue to research all of our options."

Until they know for sure whether they can bring back the 37-year-old Strahan, it appears the Giants will continue to move forward with their plan to switch Kiwanuka back to end. Coughlin said he spoke to Kiwanuka Sunday and he was willing to make the move.

"Mathias accepted every job that we have offered and every task we have presented him with," Coughlin said. "I talked with him yesterday and he was more than ready to do whatever we wanted him to do that was in the best interests of the team."

JPetrucci23

08-25-2008, 07:49 PM

Fox Sports has given Strahan their blessing to return, and have said that his FOX job will be waiting for him when he is done with football for good.

the signal is sent

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/vinrich/92signal.jpg

askewcore

08-25-2008, 09:43 PM

I'm much more comfortable with Kiwi and Tuck at DE and Clark,AP,Wilkinson (thats his name JD) at LBs. Although I still think we'll get Strahan to come back. He still wants to play I think, he just hated training camp.

Bone Dry

08-25-2008, 09:47 PM

JPetrucci23

08-25-2008, 09:56 PM

Reese finally calls Strahan's agent
(http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/08/reese-reaches-out.html)

While someone in the Giants organization is busy trading text messages with Michael Strahan, GM Jerry Reese has reached out to Strahan’s agent.

According to the agent, Tony Agnone, he spoke with Reese earlier today about whether Strahan would be interested in returning to the Giants. Agnone said the discussion was very general and very preliminary and definitely didn’t involve any talks about money.

They ended with Reese telling Agnone to let the Giants know if and when Strahan decides he’s serious about a return.

“They reached out and they talked to us about the possibility of Strahan returning,” Agnone said. “It’s something he’s thinking about.”

Agnone said that Strahan wasn’t considering a return at all before his friend and former teammates, Osi Umenyiora, suffered a season-ending knee injury Saturday night. After seeing that, Agnone said, Strahan “feels the ship isn’t even out of the harbor and they’re already taking on the cannons. He feels like maybe he should jump back in there.”

Agnone insisted he had no idea what the 37-year-old Strahan would decide to do, or what would happen if he told the Giants officially that he’d like to return.

Strahan is in Greece and has no immediate plans to return to the United States before the end of the week at the earliest. He’s also scheduled to begin his work with Fox as a studio analyst soon, but one source close to the defensive end said getting out of that contract shouldn’t be a problem.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

08-25-2008, 10:25 PM

i don't know what i'm more apprehensive about - a season without a leader on the D-line or an out-of-shape Strahan coming back and possibly getting his head taken off. if he does come back, he's gotta hit the gym hard.

Jimmy's Dignity

08-25-2008, 11:57 PM

Gotta remember...Strahan didn't practice or anything like that until he showed up for the season opener last year. Sure he worked out on his own, but that isn't the same. He did just fine...took him about a game and a half to get up to full speed, but IF he comes back, he'll be just fine

Jimmy's Dignity

08-26-2008, 06:18 PM

the signal is sent

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b322/vinrich/92signal.jpg

I liked this one from BBI

http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/16241.jpg
Pretty Please?

JPetrucci23

08-26-2008, 06:54 PM

Forget it, its not happening :(

per PFT, citing Jay Glazer (those who don't know, Glazer is a good friend of Strahan's who works at Fox Sports and helped Strahan write his book):

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/26/strahan-staying-retired/

STRAHAN STAYING RETIRED
Posted by Mike Florio on August 26, 2008, 5:47 p.m.

Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com reports that defensive end Michael Strahan will not be re-joining the Giants. Strahan will instead remain retired and go to work for FOX.

More details to come.

JPetrucci23

08-26-2008, 06:57 PM

and here is the full story:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8492730

It turns out Super Bowl XLII was Michael Strahan's final game after all.

The recently retired perennial Pro Bowler told FOXSports.com exclusively that he has decided to remain retired and has turned down the Giants' offer to lure him back to action.

"This has been one of the toughest nights of my life," Strahan said from Greece. "But after long deliberation and throwing around a million scenarios in my head for the past day, I think it's just best if I stay retired.

"I have gone back and forth on this because as a player you'll always want to play, you'll never lose that urge to be out there. But I could only do this if I could commit 100 percent, physically, mentally, emotionally and I can't do that. I've tried to convince myself and my body to give it one more year, but in the end I just don't think I could turn it on like I need to again."

Strahan and the team held discussions and he says the money was enough to do the deal. But in the end, it became a matter of whether or not he wanted to put his body through the rigors of another NFL season.

"I really love my life now," he said. "It's great having nobody put a finger on me. You really put yourself through an awful lot in this league, more than people realize.

"I've got a great home at FOX now and I think it's where I belong. I wish I could've had different news for Giants fans but I've known for a while I'm done.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

08-27-2008, 01:19 AM

oh well, can't fault the guy for not wanting to come back. Strahan did more for this team over the past 15 years than most players ever do.

a lot of people said the Giants weren't going to repeat this year. and i'm not saying that i don't hope they make it back to the Super Bowl. even a Giants fan since the cradle like myself couldn't have predicted that they were gonna win the Super Bowl this time last year. but with Strahan gone and Osi out for the year, they'll be hard-pressed to put together such a dominating defensive line they'll need to make it back. i think every fan wants their favorite team to win it all every year and the Giants fan in me wants them to, but the realist in me knows just how hard a repeat is even with a healthy team, and there's a part of me that kinda thinks that the Giants winning the Super Bowl for a second straight year might make what they did last year look a little less magical, you know? no matter what happens this season or next season or the season after that, we'll always be able to talk about the 2007 season as the best time to be a Giants fan.

maybe i'm trying to be an optimist, or maybe i'm just talking crazy, but the season hasn't started yet, and February is very far away right now. guess we'll just have to wait and see what this season has in store. go Giants, motherfucker.

Jimmy's Dignity

08-27-2008, 04:43 PM

Osi officially on IR, Craphonso Thorpe cut

Giants 2007 Awards:
MVP = Eli Manning
Defensive Player of the Year = Osi Umenyiora & Antonio Pierce
Offensive Player of the Year = Plaxico Burress & the starting offensive line
Rookie of the Year = the entire draft class
Special teams Player of the Year = Chase Blackburn

Ronreddog

08-27-2008, 07:24 PM

Hey fellow Giants fan! I am just getting caught up on everything, and Umenyiora going down is painful. Strahan not coming back is not the end of the world, the GMEN will manage.

I still have faith in the boys doing well this season. Opening night is a little over a week away, and I can't wait!

JD, congrats on your modship, brotherman!

Ballbuster1

08-27-2008, 07:29 PM

Can't blame Strahan for not coming back. He got the ring he wanted and he's got
a contract with Fox Sports. He's done good, why put yourself thru that anymore?

Jimmy's Dignity

08-29-2008, 11:04 AM

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2008/0901_large.jpghttp://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2008/0903_large.jpg
http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2008/0830_large.jpghttp://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2008/0828_large.jpg
http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2008/0826_large.jpghttp://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2008/0902_large.jpg

So there's your season preview covers...lets see who the SI Cover Jinx affects

I'm finally happy that the Giants aren't getting any fucking respect

ceeps04

08-29-2008, 04:37 PM

Fluke and luck are the 2 words that I keep hearing from the National Media. Its almost like nobody cares who won the Super Bowl last year, just that New England was the best team and lost.

You know what...fuck em. I dont give a shit what dumb asses on ESPN, NFL Network, SI, etc... say. They all showed last year in the 2 week build up for the game that they don't know shit anyways.

SurlyTruckDrivr

08-31-2008, 08:51 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3562678

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- The New York Giants (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyg) shored up their defensive end position by signing former Philadelphia Eagles (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=phi) first-round pick Jerome McDougle (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4473).
A source told ESPN.com's John Clayton that McDougle receives a one-year, $1 million deal.

http://assets.espn.go.com/i/headshots/nfl/players/65/4473.jpg McDougle

The Super Bowl champions lost seven-time Pro Bowler Michael Strahan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=495) to retirement in June and then had two-time Pro Bowler Osi Umenyiora (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4514) sidelined with a season-ending knee injury a little more than a week ago in a game against the Jets.
New York moved Mathias Kiwanuka (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=9618) from linebacker back to defensive end days after Umenyiora was hurt.
A first round pick in 2003, McDougle was cut by Philadelphia on Saturday. He played in 33 games in five seasons and had three sacks. He missed all of last season with a triceps injury and was out for all of 2005 after being shot in the abdomen during a robbery during the offseason.
"It is great -- defending Super Bowl champs -- I look good in blue," McDougle said. "I feel good to be here, staying in the division, so not really much of a difference as far as guys you are going against, and I just feel good to be here, to be wanted, and I am just looking forward to doing some good things on this defense."
Coming to the Giants, McDougle will played under defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, who was a linebacker and defensive backs coach with the Eagles until being hired by New York.
"Coach Spags has done a good job here," McDougle said. "He really gets after it and kind of put his own niche on kind of the defense that we were running there in Philly. It is good for me because there is a lot of movement, which allows for guys like me a chance to kind of move and get after the quarterback a little bit."
To make room for McDougle on the 53-man roster, the Giants waived defensive tackle Rodney Leisle (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5664).

Jimmy's Dignity

09-02-2008, 12:02 AM

I'll be interested to see if McDougal only needed a change of scenery or if he was a bust. Hopefully he can produce in NY this year

apparently Jason Taylor is a game-time decision for the 'Skins

Steam

09-02-2008, 12:31 AM

Wow, was almost going to get tickets for SWB Yankees against Pawsox on Thursday before realizing that the Giants were playing.

I'll be drinking at home for that one.

ceeps04

09-02-2008, 11:57 PM

Got tickets to the game on Thursday. Go to both Skins game every year with my Skins fans from here in D.C. Last year was fucking miserable. It was the last pathetic game the Giants played in the season. Sunday night, fucking 20 degrees and windy as shit and Shockey got injured. Man was that ride home brutal. Made up for it with the shit I talked for the last 5 months though, now its time to add some new lines after Thursday.

Jimmy's Dignity

09-03-2008, 02:54 PM

Ralph Vacciano's 2008 prediction (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/09/a-giant-prediction-97-in-08.html): 9-7

but then again, he picked them to go 7-9 last year (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2007/09/sans-tiki-07-giants-will-be-wo.html)

my prediction, 12-4 & NFC East champs

ESPN 2008 Week 1 Power Rankings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=1)

Previous ranking in parenthesis

(1) New England Patriots
(3) San Diego Chargers
(4) Dallas Cowboys
(2) Indianapolis Colts
(5) Jacksonville Jaguars
(7) Pittsburgh Steelers
(12) New Orleans Saints
(6) New York Giants
(9) Seattle Seahawks
(8) Green Bay Packers
(11) Minnesota Vikings
(13) Philadelphia Eagles
(10) Cleveland Browns
(14) Tennessee Titans
(15) Tampa Bay Bucaneers
(23) New York Jets
(20) Carolina Panthers
(18) Buffalo Bills
(16) Washington Redskins
(19) Houston Texans
(17) Arizona Cardinals
(22) Denver Broncos
(24) Cincinatti Bengals
(21) Baltimore Ravens
(25) Chicago Bears
(29) Detroit Lions
(27) Oakland Raiders
(26) St. Louis Rams
(28) San Francisco 49ers
(31) Miami Dolphins
(30) Kansas City Chiefs
(32) Atlanta Falcons

ginaf20697

09-04-2008, 08:03 PM

Jesus WTF is that Knicks loving loser Spike Lee doing there and WHY the fuck do they have to show him? :icon_roll

Oh and how long until Eli gets booed again?

SurlyTruckDrivr

09-04-2008, 08:21 PM

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

BCH

09-04-2008, 08:49 PM

Yeah, ESPN's right. This team stinks I don't know what we were thinking. :rolleyes:

Sct Ptersns Twn

09-04-2008, 08:51 PM

The Redskins are not the Eagles, Patriots, or the Cowboys. Remember that fellas.

That fucking Steeler reject looks good tonight.

Ronreddog

09-04-2008, 08:52 PM

The GMEn just picked up where they left off from the Super Bowl. They look fucking great, but, it is the Redskins.

GO BIG BLUE!!!

BCH

09-04-2008, 09:02 PM

Whew. Amani almost cost them there. He must have decided that Eli would go somewhere else. Sill and all, so far so good.

Stormrider666

09-04-2008, 09:09 PM

If tonight's game is preview of things to come, I could be in for a long fucking season.

Ronreddog

09-04-2008, 09:25 PM

DAMN, the fucking Skins scored. Oh well, we have to score touchdowns, not field goals!

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-04-2008, 10:03 PM

checking in, was listening to the game at work and just got home. Giants are up but things aren't looking good. penalties are killing them again and they're losing momentum in a hurry. but i can't say enough about how much of a fucking BEAST Brandon Jacobs is.

fuck! Eli just threw a pick. he was rushed and threw it too high for Boss to get it, and he just looked like he yelled "FUCK!" when he got back to the bench.

BCH

09-04-2008, 10:06 PM

Either they've moved away from what was working or the Skins took it away... Lets see how they re-adjust. Defense looks pretty damn good so far considering.

Edit: Smoot looks like he's got an ass cramp... That or he pulled a hammy.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-04-2008, 10:12 PM

i think the Skins have just readjusted their defense during the half. they've been pressuring Eli more and he hasn't been able to get as many passes off. and yeah, the defense looks to be holding up damn well. but as was stated before, the Skins aren't the Cowboys or Patriots, and it'll be interesting to see how they do against a better offense.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-04-2008, 10:28 PM

ugh, the Giants win the Super Bowl and everyone's busy sucking Brett Favre's cock. he's got what, a year or two left in him? yeah, he's probably gonna be as effective as Jordan was with the Wizards, Willie Mays with the Mets, and Gretzky with the Rangers. what the fuck is it gonna take for people to take the Giants as serious contenders?

whoa, Antonio Pierce showing some cajones. and taking him on without a helmet! someone's trying to affirm his leadership...

BCH

09-04-2008, 10:42 PM

The Refs have gotten the word from their bosses. They don't want the Giants to cover the 4. If you don't want Portis hit, then blow the whistle.

XMScott

09-04-2008, 10:43 PM

They arent playing no huddle and continue to run the ball.

Looks like the Skins just want to lose this game.

XMScott

09-04-2008, 10:45 PM

The Refs have gotten the word from their bosses. They don't want the Giants to cover the 4. If you don't want Portis hit, then blow the whistle.

The man was down (in my mind) and 2 guys jump on him. It was a worthy penalty.

Jets > Giants. Dont we remember the pre-season game. SHEEESH!

BCH

09-04-2008, 10:47 PM

The man was down (in my mind) and 2 guys jump on him. It was a worthy penalty.

Jets > Giants. Dont we remember the pre-season game. SHEEESH!

Yeah he was on his back. In full speed motion, I didn't hear the whistle until after the 2nd guy went in there...If the ball had come out he'd have been down by contact anyway.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-04-2008, 10:48 PM

wow, what a big mistake by Washington. they need to get in field goal range and they go short? that might cost them the game if they don't somehow manage to convert on the 4th down.

Absolutely

09-04-2008, 10:48 PM

That's a good play on 3rd down, throw a 3 yard pass to Moss...

I've never seen any of the hype on Campbell, I think he sucks balls. He did NOTHING last year, he might be the most overrated QB in the NFL.
77.6 Qb rating, 12 TDs/11 INTS. 200 Yards a game.

Who gives a shit.
The Redskins are boring as fuck

XMScott

09-04-2008, 10:51 PM

wow, what a big mistake by Washington. they need to get in field goal range and they go short? that might cost them the game if they don't somehow manage to convert on the 4th down.

Ugly win for the Giants. The Skins basically gave up. Pretty sad. Sucks the J-E-T-S dont play them this year.

XMScott

09-04-2008, 11:01 PM

Kiwhoweveryouspell it on the ground. Not good.

Shitty game

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-04-2008, 11:03 PM

Ugly win for the Giants. The Skins basically gave up. Pretty sad. Sucks the J-E-T-S dont play them this year.

they looked pretty fiesty toward the end. too little too late for them though.

Kiwi looked hurt on that last play when his legs were wrapped up, we don't need him to go down too.

Ronreddog

09-04-2008, 11:03 PM

A win is a win, and seeing Kiwa on the ground at the end was a bit scary.

1 - 0 BABY!!!

BCH

09-04-2008, 11:04 PM

Looked really good at first. Kinda stalled there in the middle. Good for them to get out of there with a W. Kiwanuka walked off without much of a limp and looked ok at least...

askewcore

09-05-2008, 12:18 AM

Way to defend the title fellas.

Offense looked inconsistent, Eli's timing looked off with everyone except Plax. Love the re-signing of the big man too.

Defense looked fucking great, even the drive Washington scored on, they only had to go 35 yards after the return (coverage team needs work) and the bullshit flag.

Next time we play them, someone had better take a cheap shot at Chris Samuels' knees for cutting Kiwi on the last play.

Tuck will make the pro bowl this year.

XMScott

09-05-2008, 02:00 AM

http://dest.tv/images/killdozer.gif

Absolutely

09-05-2008, 05:34 AM

http://dest.tv/images/killdozer.gif

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb123/benbangblog/knocked_the_fuck_out.gif

He reminds me of a more talented Ron Dayne.

weakside

09-05-2008, 07:05 AM

Decent win for the Giants. You want to come out of the gate 1-0 and they did. A couple bad passes by Eli but it is hard to know which of his bad passes was that or a bad route by the WR.

Jimmy's Dignity

09-05-2008, 09:09 AM

If tonight's game is preview of things to come, I could be in for a long fucking season.sure hope so! :action-sm

DAMN, the fucking Skins scored. Oh well, we have to score touchdowns, not field goals!Much like last year, the red zone is a bitch...I could have sworn at least 2 of those field goals would have been 7, but the Skins D stiffened up

http://dest.tv/images/killdozer.gifHe reminds me of a more talented Ron Dayne.ain't that the truth...it's funny I remember seeing an article last year, someone went up to him with a 27 jersey and he said, "That'd better be a Hampton, cause I'm not signing a Ron Dayne jersey"

Way to defend the title fellas.

Offense looked inconsistent, Eli's timing looked off with everyone except Plax. Love the re-signing of the big man too.

Defense looked fucking great, even the drive Washington scored on, they only had to go 35 yards after the return (coverage team needs work) and the bullshit flag.

Next time we play them, someone had better take a cheap shot at Chris Samuels' knees for cutting Kiwi on the last play.

Tuck will make the pro bowl this year.

I didn't know that they'd signed Plax to the extension...just like they said, it got done before the season started. Offense looked pretty good in the start, still need some work with the red zone offense. D was good, could have done with some more pressure on Campbell; pass coverage was pretty decent too. Special teams.....the old men can still kick, but Christ, can someone make a tackle?

oh if they didn't show it at halftime, Steve Tisch came out to apparently talk about a cancer benefit...I couldn't hear him because he was busy getting booed louder than John Cena in Philadelphia. It was ridiculous how loud it was...brutal booing for the PSL's :haha7: :haha7: :haha7:

oh and btw, Plax got a 5 year, $35 million extension (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3569744)

Papagolash

09-05-2008, 11:17 AM

I LOVE watching Jacobs run over people.

Palerider4146

09-05-2008, 12:39 PM

just my 2 cents now...

Jacobs is a beast, hopefully he can keep that up, lots of pounding to his body though.

Hope Kiwanuka is ok, cant afford to lose him also.

Liked what I saw from the defense last night, love the blitz.

I actually liked what I saw from Manning last night, much more confidence I thought. I also thought his passes were tighter but he does need to change it up a bit. They will start double teaming plax if he doesnt find another big target. May need to get Boss more involved.

Overall they need to finish better. The touchdown drive was great but they stalled way to much in the red zone after that.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-05-2008, 12:42 PM

I LOVE watching Jacobs run over people.

oh man, i still have that hit he laid on the Packers lineman in the NFC Championship game in my head. the guy fucking rag-dolled when Jacobs ran into him. someone's got that clip in their sig and i love watching it every time.

JPetrucci23

09-05-2008, 12:53 PM

Kiwi's x-rays were negative.

Jimmy's Dignity

09-05-2008, 06:03 PM

I'm watching the game (I dvr'd it last night)...Jacobs has really got to work on that whole "catching the ball" thing

jagsfans

09-05-2008, 06:39 PM

I'm watching the game (I dvr'd it last night)...Jacobs has really got to work on that whole "catching the ball" thing

If he can run over guys the way he did, fuck it he doesn't need to catch.

askewcore

09-05-2008, 07:04 PM

oh man, i still have that hit he laid on the Packers lineman in the NFC Championship game in my head. the guy fucking rag-dolled when Jacobs ran into him. someone's got that clip in their sig and i love watching it every time.

Not to nitipick but, that was Charles Woodson, not a d-lineman, if he runs a DT over like that i might leak some clear stuff.

I'm watching the game (I dvr'd it last night)...Jacobs has really got to work on that whole "catching the ball" thing

Eli throws his check downs low alot too, like groin level to Jacobs, but the Juggernaut starts to run before he has the ball too.

What was with the lack of Bradshaw last night?

Jimmy's Dignity

09-06-2008, 10:16 AM

no clue...Jacobs broke a few runs on Thursday that Bradshaw would have taken to the end zone. Not like I'm complaining, Jacobs still got me 16+ points. Maybe it was an unofficial punishment for that whole "jail time" thing. I only saw him return the opening kickoff and that's about it.

oh, and Plax's contract is very heavily incentive laden (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/09/plaxs-deal-loaded-with-incenti.html); including games played, mini-camp & training camp participation.

ceeps04

09-06-2008, 01:54 PM

What was with the lack of Bradshaw last night?

I think that it was an unofficial benching for spending a month in jail.

I just think that Coughlin/Gilbride are too smart to continue to pound Jacobs like he did on Thursday. Even though Ward seemed to come in for a whole drive at one point so he did get some rest, I think that the fact that Jacobs missed the first couple of games last year because of the injury in the Cowboy game, kept him fresh for the playoffs.

BCH

09-06-2008, 08:50 PM

This is the first time I've actually felt good about a Committee of RBs. If they all stay relatively uninjured, it should be a good year for the Giants' running game.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-06-2008, 09:28 PM

Not to nitipick but, that was Charles Woodson, not a d-lineman, if he runs a DT over like that i might leak some clear stuff.

i apologize, i was just going off my memory and his identity escaped me at the moment.

but shit, it wouldn't surprise me if one of these days Jacobs lowers his shoulder and lays out a linemen who makes the mistake of not going low enough on Jacobs. Jacobs is a fucking freight train.

This is the first time I've actually felt good about a Committee of RBs. If they all stay relatively uninjured, it should be a good year for the Giants' running game.

yeah really. who knew losing Tiki would result in such a dangerous group of running backs? and how many teams have even one good RB?

righty

09-07-2008, 03:50 PM

Just got back from vacation. My bro and i made sure we watched the game. we did funnels of beer every td and shots of jagr every fg. We eventually did whatever . I think they came out looked real good but it seemed the offense stalled and relied on the defense. Eli still looks as confident as last year but i didnt like when he got down on himself when he missed a play. That's what the old Eli looked like . Just gotta say glad they resigned Plax and glad he didnt holdout,plus did anyone see that catch he made during the first possesion. LET'S GO GIANTS

Jimmy's Dignity

09-09-2008, 05:47 PM

ESPN Power Rankings after Week 1 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=2)

(3) Dallas Cowboys
(6) Pittsburgh Steelers
(2) San Diego Chargers
(7) New Orleans Saints
(8) New York Giants
(12) Philadelphia Eagles
(10) Green Bay Packers
(4) Indianapolis Colts
(1) New England Patriots
(5) Jacksonville Jaguars
(14) Tennessee Titans
(17) Carolina Panthers
(18) Buffalo Bills
(16) New York Jets
(25) Chicago Bears
(11) Minnesota Vikings
(13) Cleveland Browns
(9) Seattle Seahawks
(22) Denver Broncos
(15) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(21) Arizona Cardinals
(24) Baltimore Ravens
(19) Washington Redskins
(20) Houston Texans
(32) Atlanta Falcons
(23) Cincinnati Bengals
(29) San Francisco 49ers
(30) Miami Dolphins
(31) Kansas City Chiefs
(27) Oakland Raiders
(26) Detroit Lions
(28) St. Louis Rams

norton23

09-09-2008, 06:22 PM

How come New England was ranked #1 and now they are all the way down to #9?

Jimmy's Dignity

09-09-2008, 06:23 PM

How come New England was ranked #1 and now they are all the way down to #9?

Cause they lost the NFL MVP for the duration of the season. If it wasn't for a bad pass, they could have lost (or at least gone to OT) to the Chiefs.

ceeps04

09-09-2008, 11:52 PM

I don't know why, but playing the worse rated team in the NFL makes me nervous. At least its on the road. I can't wait to see those beautiful white jerseys that they went undefeated in last year on display.

Jimmy's Dignity

09-12-2008, 10:37 AM

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/09/12/sports/12araton_650.jpg

Ronreddog

09-14-2008, 02:34 PM

Burress is a fucking beast! GMEN up 7-0 early!

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-14-2008, 04:12 PM

20-6 now, things are looking good for the Giants. that challenged fumble was a lifesaver after such a great drive. Jacobs once again showing why opposing defenses should be scared, but Ward finding some holes and getting good runs too.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-14-2008, 04:49 PM

Tuck gets a pick six, talk about stepping up.

Absolutely

09-14-2008, 05:02 PM

Congrats.
You beat a team of retards wearing football pads...

The Rams have given up near 1,000 total yards in 2 games.
2 games...

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-14-2008, 05:07 PM

Congrats.
You beat a team of retards wearing football pads...

The Rams have given up near 1,000 total yards in 2 games.
2 games...

yeah, but any Giants fan knows their history of losing to teams they should beat handily. it does look incredibly embarrassing for the Rams. they were hanging in their for a while, but the Giants just turned it up on them late in the game, especially on that TD run from Bradshaw where he went in almost untouched.

Ronreddog

09-14-2008, 05:08 PM

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29550&season=2008&displayPage=tab_gamecenter

A win is a win, and we WON! Another good game for the GMEN, but, the schedule gets tougher now. It is good to see them winning, what is that now, 6 in a row, going back to the playoffs.

GO BIG BLUE!

JPetrucci23

09-14-2008, 10:57 PM

Stomp them out!

Jimmy's Dignity

09-15-2008, 11:11 AM

ugly first half, but that 2nd half looked fantastic. Very happy with the way they adjusted and really got their defense cranking. 6 sacks, a TD, and only 200 yards of offense given up....gotta love that

Still need more takeaways though

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1713/ramssatisfactioncl6.jpg
hahahaha

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/9/15/128659743576455909.jpg

Worst backfield nickname ever... (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2008/09/14/2008-09-14_earth_wind_and_fire_backfield_leads_gian.html)E arth, Wind, & Fire? Boooooo

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-15-2008, 06:32 PM

Earth, Wind and Fire? brings back some bad memories of Thunder and Lightning. "The Three-Headed Beast" sounds much better. i too wondered where Bradshaw was last week, but then i saw him this week on special teams and Hixon doing some receiving, and then they brought Bradshaw in on offense late. like one of the posts on the article stated, any one of those guys would be stars on just about any other team, but to have all three on the same team and more committed to winning than stats, it's exciting as a Giants fan to have an offense so multi-faceted. the Giants have always been known for defense, but i don't think i've ever seen a Giants offense with this many dangerous weapons.

askewcore

09-15-2008, 07:31 PM

Earth, Wind and Fire? brings back some bad memories of Thunder and Lightning. "The Three-Headed Beast" sounds much better.

Cerebus, baby.

http://members.dodo.com.au/celticmyst/images/cerebus.jpg

Now that we know the Rams are truly bad, are the Eagles for real? I guess that'll get answered in 2 hours.

Edible Napalm

09-15-2008, 10:28 PM

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/firstcuts/tag/157124/carl

Jimmy's Dignity

09-16-2008, 09:23 AM

Cerebus, baby.

http://members.dodo.com.au/celticmyst/images/cerebus.jpgCerebus fucking rules

Now that we know the Rams are truly bad, are the Eagles for real? I guess that'll get answered in 2 hours.
Looks like we've got the best defense in the NFC East...

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-16-2008, 03:02 PM

Looks like we've got the best defense in the NFC East...

and that's with THREE of its biggest weapons gone. how impressive is that?

Jimmy's Dignity

09-16-2008, 03:28 PM

ESPN Power Rankings - Week 3 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=3)

(1) Dallas Cowboys
(2) Pittsburgh Steelers
(5) New York Giants
(7) Green Bay Packers
(6) Philadelphia Eagles
(9) New England Patriots
(8) Indianapolis Colts
(12) Carolina Panthers
(11) Tennessee Titans
(13) Buffalo Bills
(19) Denver Broncos
(4) New Orleans Saints
(3) San Diego Chargers
(21) Arizona Cardinals
(15) Chicago Bears
(14) New York Jets
(20) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(10) Jacksonville Jaguars
(23) Washington Redskins
(22) Baltimore Ravens
(16) Minnesota Vikings
(17) Cleveland Browns
(18) Seattle Seahawks
(24) Houston Texans
(27) San Francisco 49ers
(25) Atlanta Falcons
(30) Oakland Raiders
(26) Cincinatti Bengals
(31) Detroit Lions
(28) Miami Dolphins
(29) Kansas City Chiefs
(32) St. Louis Rams

Jimmy's Dignity

09-19-2008, 06:16 PM

part of an ESPN NFC East Blog by Matt Mosely
Former Miami Hurricane Kenny Phillips is having a similar impact for the Giants, who made him the final pick in the first round. In the months that have followed, I've started to hear other teams' scouts talk about how they coveted Phillips. He hasn't cracked the starting lineup yet, but he takes the field in the dime package. GM Jerry Reese and Tom Coughlin know that he'll be starting for the next six or seven years, so there's no rush.

Phillips, though, was the buzz of training camp. He has the rare ability to make plays in coverage and then be physical near the line of scrimmage. In the tradition of other safeties from the U, he loves to punish opposing players.

"You don't like playing against guys like that," Plaxico Burress recently told the New York Times. "They can be in the middle of the field, the quarterback can look him off, throw to the other side of the field, and he's right there to put his helmet under your chin or pick the football off. There's only a few guys in the league that can do things like that."

When I sat down with Reese during training camp for an hour, the conversation kept turning back to Phillips. He sorts of glides around the field, but when the ball is thrown, he has what scouts refer to as "sudden speed." And the fact that he has excellent ball skills gives him the potential to be a six- or seven-interceptions-a-season guy.

btw, why don't I ever get to sit next to fans like this? "whaa"
http://forum.go-bengals.com/uploads/monthly_01_2007/post-1884-1168618346.jpghttp://forum.go-bengals.com/uploads/monthly_01_2007/post-1884-1168618331.jpg

hahaha, what a toolshed
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3310/bengalsfancopytx9.jpg

Jimmy's Dignity

09-21-2008, 02:12 PM

Oh that's a nice way to start off the game on D. A sack, a stop for a gain of 2, and now the crowd + the D winds up forcing Palmer to take a time out. Love it!

And now a false start! :clap: :clap: :clap:
this defense makes me tingle in my pants

Steam

09-21-2008, 02:16 PM

For some reason I'm not getting a game on Fox this week. What the fuck is that about?

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-21-2008, 02:29 PM

crowd sounds really into it today. Bengals are threatening. another penalty of the D-line, they gotta slow this Bengals offense down.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-21-2008, 02:33 PM

nice goal line stand. at least they held them to 3. now Eli's gotta start airing the ball out because the Bengals seem to be all over Jacobs right now.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-21-2008, 02:44 PM

beautiful pass to Boss. Jeremy who?

Jimmy's Dignity

09-21-2008, 02:46 PM

For some reason I'm not getting a game on Fox this week. What the fuck is that about?cause it's on CBS....which means you should probably go to the bar because you're probably only getting the Pats

Yay! Jacobs gets me points! And Boss is finally off the schnide...so we dont' have to hear about how the TE's don't have a catch yet this season

Ronreddog

09-21-2008, 02:47 PM

Living in Florida does have its drawbacks. I can only "watch" the game on nfl.com. Thanks to you, I can read what is going on also!

GMEN TD!!!

Steam

09-21-2008, 02:48 PM

cause it's on CBS....which means you should probably go to the bar because you're probably only getting the Pats

I figured it probably was. Still doesn't explain to me why I'm getting blacked out of a Fox game. Fucking assholes.

My second TV is on the Yankee Stadium shit on ESPN. They just had an interview with Jeffrey Maier.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-21-2008, 02:58 PM

damn, you don't see the Giants D with a hole that big very often.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-21-2008, 03:03 PM

another great catch by Boss, and the Giants are answering back.

SurlyTruckDrivr

09-21-2008, 03:06 PM

Living in Florida does have its drawbacks. I can only "watch" the game on nfl.com. Thanks to you, I can read what is going on also!

GMEN TD!!!
sucks man, I actually was pretty lucky over here last year. Since I'm not in the NFC market side of the state, most of the games were on last year. Of course this week no luck with Cin being the road AFC team and Mia in NE.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-21-2008, 03:07 PM

they should have challenged that call, looked like Plax had both toes in.

Jimmy's Dignity

09-21-2008, 03:10 PM

yikes...what's goin on? They better fix their shit at halftime...a 10-10 game doesn't make me happy

they should have challenged that call, looked like Plax had both toes in.
yeah, I was kind of surprised they didn't challenge it...I guess Plax wasn't positive if he got em both in, if he was, he'd have gotten Coughlin to challenge

Digital_Trauma

09-21-2008, 03:15 PM

there's no "E" in "Plaxico"

Jimmy's Dignity

09-21-2008, 03:17 PM

What the dogshit is going on? :arrrh: :arrrh: :arrrh:
Looks like someone read their own press clippings this week...

Ronreddog

09-21-2008, 03:32 PM

I don't know, but, I am glad I did not bet with my heart, and take the Giants giving 13 points. :icon_eek:

They better turn it around in the 2nd half! Looks like Jacobs is having a tough time running the ball, from the stats I am reading.

Jimmy's Dignity

09-21-2008, 03:39 PM

yeah, Jacobs is NOT having a very good day...but then again, the Bengals are playing like 10 in the box

oh man...Fred Robbins is having a phenomenal game. 2 and a half sacks, a partially blocked field goal, & now a deflected pass

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-21-2008, 04:50 PM

barely got that play off in time, but Smith got a lot out of it. fuckers need to get in the end zone.

Ward breaks through! 1st and Goal!

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-21-2008, 04:55 PM

Yes!

Jimmy's Dignity

09-21-2008, 04:55 PM

Christ this is an ugly game....but thank fucking God for Boss!!!! :rockon" :rockon"

$5 says Shockey would have dropped that pass

SurlyTruckDrivr

09-21-2008, 04:56 PM

nice!!!

Ronreddog

09-21-2008, 04:56 PM

TD GIANTS!!! 23-20 with less than 2 minutes remaining, cmon DEFENSE!!!

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-21-2008, 04:58 PM

now the defense needs to step up and hold them for two minutes. they've been letting the Bengals hang on for way too long.

Jimmy's Dignity

09-21-2008, 05:01 PM

no shit? DL needs to get pressure on Palmer. Fuck! Ross is hurt...his shoulder was fucked up last season too

c'mon you motherfuckers, get a sack or force that INT

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-21-2008, 05:02 PM

jesus, where the fuck is the defense?

Jimmy's Dignity

09-21-2008, 05:04 PM

oh motherfuckbuckets....lets go Robbins, get your big fucking palm on this one, not just a few digits

BOOOOOOOOOOO OT

Salem

09-21-2008, 05:04 PM

jesus, where the fuck is the defense?

"cough cough"

Ballbuster1

09-21-2008, 05:05 PM

Bengals blew that. They had a chance to win it but took way too long.

Ronreddog

09-21-2008, 05:06 PM

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! Another OT game, I have been watching the Bears/Bucs game, and I have the Bucs getting 3.5.

CMON BIG BLUE!!! STEP UP!

Salem

09-21-2008, 05:06 PM

Gmen just played that D like the pats have all day. Wlecome to the club

Jimmy's Dignity

09-21-2008, 05:06 PM

"cough cough"
Got some Dolphin cock buried in your throat?

Salem

09-21-2008, 05:10 PM

Got some Dolphin cock buried in your throat?

better than tigger in the ass.

Salem

09-21-2008, 05:15 PM

huge play by madison. read it all the way.

Ronreddog

09-21-2008, 05:20 PM

WOW, I got the OT on CBS, what a play by Toomer!!!

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-21-2008, 05:22 PM

that is why i love Toomer, big plays like that. Plax may be Eli's favorite target, but Toomer's "Ol' Reliable."

Salem

09-21-2008, 05:22 PM

Mother Shucker

09-21-2008, 05:23 PM

Hey, who is the undefeated team this year?

Ronreddog

09-21-2008, 05:24 PM

GMEN WIN!!!!

A win is a win, 3-0 baby!

Salem

09-21-2008, 05:25 PM

Hey, who is the undefeated team this year?

at least we know who to point the finger at and name WB's jinx. real smooth

GLENN_THE_TOOL

09-21-2008, 05:26 PM

game over. Bengals fought hard, but the Giants prevailed. i wonder what dumb thing Chad Johnson will do next to distract people from the fact that he's playing for an 0-3 team.

Jimmy's Dignity

09-21-2008, 05:31 PM

I dont like the play calling. it got the job done but bombin it like that is bound to get picked. on the other hand, Giant's receivers seem to be 2 feet taller than Cinci's backs. great ctach by toomer
yeah, I'm with you there...was NOT a fan of it, especially when they were at the Bengals 38. I was fine with them staying in the shotgun, but run a fucking draw play!

Ugly ugly ugly, but a win nonetheless. Into the bye, 3-0...needed to win all of these games; hopefully they can come out of the bye with some more motivation

Sct Ptersns Twn

09-21-2008, 05:35 PM

Thank you Giants, for preempting the Steeler game. Who are you, Mel Karmizan?

Thanks for the win anyway.

Ronreddog

09-21-2008, 05:37 PM

Thank you Giants, for preempting the Steeler game. Who are you, Mel Karmizan?

Thanks for the win anyway.

I am glad CBS did that, I got to see overtime here in Tampa Bay. Great time to watch the game, and the game winning drive.

Thank you, BIG BLUE!!!

Jimmy's Dignity

09-22-2008, 01:03 PM

Okay...so who else thought that if it was Shockey, this pass would have been dropped?
http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/7bea5f81-2ba6-4ab4-95f4-b79b99afbefd.jpg

so the 2nd half looked ugly, but when we were getting pressure it looked damned good. After looking at how bad the Pittsburgh OL looked yesterday, I'm looking forward to that game.

JPetrucci23

09-22-2008, 01:49 PM

Boss catches a TD that Shockey surely would have dropped, and Shockey whiffs on a block that leads to a Reggie Bush fumble returned for a TD. I love it!

Jimmy's Dignity

09-22-2008, 03:37 PM

Eli...the Comeback Kid (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/09/eli-is-the-comeback-kid.html)

If you were surprised by what Eli Manning did yesterday, or even by what he did in Super Bowl XLII, you shouldn’t have been. Throughout his entire short career, he has absolutely been The Comeback Kid.

In his 64 career starts, including the playoffs, Manning has rallied the Giants out of a fourth-quarter hole to either take the lead or tie the game an amazing 16 times. Eleven times, including yesterday’s 26-23 overtime win over the Cincinnati Bengals, the comeback has resulted in a win.

And if that doesn’t impress you, consider this: The Giants have trailed in the fourth quarter in 38 of Manning’s 64 starts - more than half. Yet he’s rallied them to win 28.9% of those times. So if the Giants trail in the final 15 minutes, Manning has basically given them a one-in-three shot to win.

Here is the breakdown, comeback by comeback. Notice, too, that 7 of the 11 have come since the beginning of last year:

2004 SEASON

Jan. 2 (2005) - Giants 28, Dallas 24. Giants trail 24-21 with 11 seconds remaining when Manning, then a rookie, famously audibles out of a doomed pass play into a Tiki Barber run. Barber goes three yards up the middle for a touchdown and Manning’s first win.

2005 SEASON

Oct. 16 - Cowboys 16, Giants 13. Manning leads the Giants down the field for a game-tying touchdown with 19 seconds left in regulation (one drive after Brandon Jacobs fumbled at the Dallas 1). Cowboys go on to win in OT on a 45-yard field goal by Jose Cortez

Oct. 23 - Giants 24, Broncos 23. Maybe his most famous regular-season comeback. Down 13 with 13 minutes left, Manning rallies the Giants and eventually hits Amani Toomer with a game-winning touchdown with 5 seconds to go.

Nov. 13 – Vikings 24, Giants 21. Manning overcomes ugly, four-interception day by leading a touchdown drive (and two-point conversion) to tie the game with 1:21 remaining. But defense falls apart and Vikings deservedly win on a 48-yard field goal with 10 seconds left.

Nov. 27 – Seattle 24, Giants 21. This should’ve been a win. Down 21-13 with 4:33 remaining, Manning leads Giants to a tie on a touchdown pass (and two-point conversion) with 1:59 left). He also sets up three ensuing Jay Feely field goal tries (40 at the end of regulation, and 54 and 45 in OT) but Feely misses them all.

2006 SEASON

Sept. 17 – Giants 30, Eagles 24. Trailng 24-7 entering the fourth quarter, Manning engineers his biggest rally in his best game (31 for 45, 371 yards, three TDs), tying the game with a field goal drive in the final seconds. He won it on a a 31-yard pass to Plaxico Burress late in OT with two Eagles defenders about to hit him on a blitz.

Nov. 5 – Giants 14, Texans 10. Not very dramatic, but the Giants did trail 10-7 entering the fourth quarter. The game-winner was a TD pass to Jeremy Shockey with 7:49 to go.

Dec. 3 – Cowboys 23, Giants 20. The Giants are down by a touchdown in the final minutes, but Manning rallies and hits Burress with a 5-yard TD pass with 1:06 remaining. Unfortunately, Cowboys K Martin Gramatica wins it with one second to spare.

Jan. 7 (2007) – Eagles 23, Giants 20. Trailing 20-13, the Giants overcame a 2nd-and-30 and Manning ended up tying the game with an 11-yard TD pass to Burress with 5:04 left. Of course, the defense couldn’t hold and K David Akers eliminated the Giants from the playoffs as time expired.

2007 SEASON

Sept. 23 – Giants 24, Redskins 17. The Giants trail 17-10 as the fourth quarter begins, but score twice in the final 12:33, including a 33-yard TD to Burress with 5:32 remaining. Of course, the defense saves everyone with a last-second goal-line stand.

Oct. 7 – Giants 35, Jets 24. Giants trail by a field goal entering the fourth, but take the lead on a 47-yard catch-and-run by Burress. They put the Jets away for good on Aaron Ross’ interception return for a touchdown with 3:15 to play.

Dec. 2 – Giants 21, Bears 16. With their season slipping away, the Giants trail 16-7 before scoring twice in the final 6:54. The game-winning 2-yard run by Reuben Droughns (set up by a brilliant pass to Burress) comes with 1:33 remaining.

Dec. 23 – Giants 38, Bills 21. Technically this goes in Manning’s column, though he had little to do with it on a day he fumbled five times. The Giants did trail 21-17 in the fourth, though, before two interception returns for touchdowns and an 88-yard TD run by Ahmad Bradshaw made it a blowout.

Jan. 13 (2008) – Giants 21, Cowboys 17. It was a fourth-quarter comeback, but only barely. The Giants trailed 17-14 before a Brandon Jacobs’ on-yard touchdown run, 2:24 into the fourth quarter put them up for good. Manning’s best moment was a touchdown drive in the final seconds of the first half. And don’t forget R.W. McQuarters’ game-ending INT to seal the deal.

Feb. 3 (2008) – Giants 17, Patriots 14. Down 14-10 with 2:39 to go against the undefeated New England Patriots, Manning calmly jogged out onto the … oh, you know the rest.

2008 SEASON

Sept. 21 – Giants 26, Bengals 23. Down 20-16 with 4:39 left, Manning leads them to a go-ahead TD to Kevin Boss with 1:50 left. The Bengals rally to kick a FG at the end of regulation, but Manning connects on a couple of big passes to set up the game-winning field goal in OT.

JPetrucci23

09-22-2008, 04:09 PM

blah blah blah blah

but..... he sucks!! Dallas, Philly, and SD fans tell us this all the time!

JPetrucci23

09-22-2008, 05:26 PM

Shockey out 3-6 weeks, sports hernia surgery:

http://blog.nola.com/saintsbeat/2008/09/shockey_out_for_three_to_six_w.html

Saints tight end Jeremy Shockey will have sports hernia surgery this week, a league source said Monday. The Saints' top offseason offensive acquisition will be out an estimated three to six weeks.

SurlyTruckDrivr

09-22-2008, 07:11 PM

Shockey out 3-6 weeks, sports hernia surgery:

http://blog.nola.com/saintsbeat/2008/09/shockey_out_for_three_to_six_w.html
well, he made it 3 weeks without going down.

who saw this coming

Ronreddog

09-22-2008, 08:04 PM

Shockey out 3-6 weeks, sports hernia surgery:

http://blog.nola.com/saintsbeat/2008/09/shockey_out_for_three_to_six_w.html

Yeah, I just saw this on SC, oh well!

I agree JD, those passes get dropped by Shockey, great fight in the Giants, in a game that they should have done much better in.

Nice time for a bye, and I am sooooo happy to see the GMEN at 3-0.

BCH

09-22-2008, 08:07 PM

ceeps04

09-22-2008, 10:44 PM

That article with Eli's comebacks reminded me of the Seattle game when Feely kept missing field goals. Probably as brutal a regular season loss as the Giants have had during the Eli Era. And the eerie similarities with the Tynes, Packer Championship game last year made that 47 yarder in O.t. when it sailed through that much sweeter.

JPetrucci23

09-23-2008, 04:06 PM

Toomer's catch was questionable?

FUCK THAT SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0809/nfl.week3.photos/images/amani-toomer-giants.jpg

Jimmy's Dignity

09-23-2008, 04:31 PM

Gotta love those pictures from Sports Illustrated

ESPN Power Rankings: Week 4 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=4)

(1) Dallas Cowboys
(3) New York Giants
(5) Philadelphia Eagles
(9) Tennessee Titans
(2) Pittsburgh Steelers
(10) Buffalo Bills
(11) Denver Broncos
(4) Green Bay Packers
(13) San Diego Chargers
(8) Carolina Panthers
(6) New England Patriots
(7) Indianapolis Colts
(17) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(18) Jacksonville Jaguars
(19) Washington Redskins
(12) New Orleans Saints
(20) Baltimore Ravens
(14) Arizona Cardinals
(21) Minnesota Vikings
(15) Chicago Bears
(16) New York Jets
(25) San Francisco 49ers
(23) Seattle Seahawks
(26) Atlanta Falcons
(30) Miami Dolphins
(22) Cleveland Browns
(24) Houston Texans
(28) Cincinatti Bengals
(27) Oakland Raiders
(29) Detroit Lions
(31) Kansas City Chiefs
(32) St. Louis Rams

Jimmy's Dignity

09-23-2008, 10:34 PM

I was just playing around bein' a mod...decided to split off the thread from post Super Bowl up until now. Carry on :D

btw, don't forget to rate the thread

BCH

09-23-2008, 10:44 PM

Nice job N00b. You didn't even break the board. :)

Jimmy's Dignity

09-23-2008, 10:55 PM

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6519/specialedyayjf5.jpg

Ronreddog

09-23-2008, 11:15 PM

After hearing Peyton on O&A today, he has got to get Eli to call the show. How fucking great would that be?

Giants ranked #2 after the Bengals game, that is pretty good!

Jimmy's Dignity

09-24-2008, 01:33 PM

What a fucking maroon. Plaxico Burress suspended 2 weeks by the team (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3606150) for an unexcused absence. He wasn't at practice on Monday and didn't answer his phone or answer messages to say why he wasn't there.

He'll miss the game against the Seahawks & obviously any/all practices this week as well. Bet you feel silly getting that contract extension, and now because you're being an asshole, you get an immediate 12.5% cut in your base salary.

JPetrucci23

09-24-2008, 02:51 PM

Rosenhaus and Plax are filing a grievance with the NFLPA. They both agree that he broke the rules and needs to be disciplined, but feels that a 2 week suspension is too harsh. Plax doesn't want to let his teammates down by missing a game.

The good news is that he agrees that he needs to be punished, so I have faith that this won't escalate into something awful.

Other news - Dick Lynch died. RIP Dick.

Jimmy's Dignity

09-24-2008, 03:02 PM

Sad to hear about Dick Lynch :(

hopefully the NFLPA works it quickly and there's not much of an issue with the team. If he can wind up getting it reduced to one week, that would be the best. Unfortunately, any practice time missed between Plax & Eli will throw them even more off chart...you can see that they're not perfectly meshing right now, they need time to work together

JPetrucci23

09-24-2008, 04:00 PM

Ball of Hate

09-24-2008, 10:27 PM

Rosenhaus said Burress spoke with Giants director of player development Charles Way on Monday evening, but he added there was "miscommunication" between the player and the team.

When the hell did that happen? Wasn't he the fullbacks coach?

In other former Giants news, a very sad story:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3607238

TAMPA, Fla. -- The 3-month-old son of Tampa Bay Buccaneers kicker Matt Bryant died Wednesday morning, coach Jon Gruden said.

Matthew Tryson Bryant apparently died in his sleep, Gruden said. The coach did not have further details. Matthew was born June 16.

"We're shocked and very saddened by this," Gruden said. "It's just a horrible tragedy, and I can't explain it."

Gruden said he was not sure if Bryant will play in Sunday's game against Green Bay. The player's situation would be addressed later in the week, the coach said.

"The entire Buccaneer family is deeply saddened by this tragedy," Buccaneers general manager Bruce Allen said in a statement. "The Bryants have been an inspiration to our entire community through their commitment to their family and their exhaustive efforts working with children and those in need in the Bay area. Our thoughts and prayers are with Matt and Melissa during this difficult time.''

Bryant, a seventh-year pro in his fourth season with Tampa Bay, kicked a winning field goal in overtime against Chicago last Sunday. Two years ago, he made the third-longest field goal in NFL history, a 62-yarder to beat Philadelphia.

Pat Yasinskas covers the NFC South for ESPN.com. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

bjf1377

09-26-2008, 03:34 PM

http://deadspin.com/5055403/seahawks-message-board-poster-succeeds-in-creating-rivalry-with-the-giants-fails-as-human

In an effort to fire Hawks' fans up for October 5th Giants/Seahawks game, one Huddle poster named "Mason" decided the best way to do that was with some good ol' 9/11 trash talk. Ugh.

Giants fans and non-Giants fans unamused by the weak attempt at Seahawks solidarity are rightfully appalled. The original poster, obviously aware that this wasn't the intelligent or human way to stoke this non-rivalry, is scrambling to pull the thread. Unfortunately for Mason, too many people offended by the post already emailed in with the visual evidence and the text. (I'm told he's now writing under a dupe account named "Anguish".)

Jimmy's Dignity

09-26-2008, 03:38 PM

http://deadspin.com/5055403/seahawks-message-board-poster-succeeds-in-creating-rivalry-with-the-giants-fails-as-humanIn an effort to fire Hawks' fans up for October 5th Giants/Seahawks game, one Huddle poster named "Mason" decided the best way to do that was with some good ol' 9/11 trash talk. Ugh.

Giants fans and non-Giants fans unamused by the weak attempt at Seahawks solidarity are rightfully appalled. The original poster, obviously aware that this wasn't the intelligent or human way to stoke this non-rivalry, is scrambling to pull the thread. Unfortunately for Mason, too many people offended by the post already emailed in with the visual evidence and the text. (I'm told he's now writing under a dupe account named "Anguish".)

^^^

all the more reason to loathe Seahawks fans

JPetrucci23

09-26-2008, 05:05 PM

BBI found it, forwarded it to all the beat writers and other reporters.

Jimmy's Dignity

09-29-2008, 10:31 AM

I wonder if the Giants move up in the Power Rankings by default because the Cowboys got beat...

Jimmy's Dignity

09-30-2008, 01:08 PM

Giants RB Danny Ware arrested for public drunkeness (http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/092908/new_338108999.shtml)

Running back arrested while standing in traffic, police say

Athens-Clarke police were more concerned with 23-year-old Danny Ware’s drunken conduct early Sunday than they were impressed with his Super Bowl ring.

Officers arrested the world champion New York Giants running back on an alcohol charge as he joined other Georgia Bulldog fans who wallowed in the aftermath of Saturday night’s defeat to the Crimson Tide of Alabama.

Ware, a Georgia football standout, was drafted last year by the NFL Tennessee Titans, claimed on waivers by the New York Jets, then signed by the Giants two months before their Super Bowl victory over the New England Patriots in February.

Ware and a 24-year-old Dallas woman attracted a police officer’s attention at about 2:25 a.m. Sunday at East Clayton Street near North Jackson Street because they seemed oblivious to traffic that had to steer around them as they stood in the street talking, according to police.

Ware admitted that he’d been drinking, and a breath test showed he had a blood-alcohol content of 0.152 grams, police said.

The woman, Jennifer Henderson, refused to take a breath tests, police said.

Each was charged with pedestrian under the influence and pedestrian in the roadway.

Ware was released from Clarke County jail at about 9:45 a.m. Sunday after he posted a $500 cash bond.Looks like he made the best of his bye week....

as for Plax...looks like he may wind up getting the financial portion of his suspension reduced

Jimmy's Dignity

09-30-2008, 05:36 PM

ESPN Power Rankings: Week 5 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=5)

(2) New York Giants
(4) Tennessee Titans
(1) Dallas Cowboys
(6) Buffalo Bills
(5) Pittsburgh Steelers
(15) Washington Redskins
(10) Carolina Panthers
(9) San Diego Chargers
(3) Philadelphia Eagles
(13) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(7) Denver Broncos
(14) Jacksonville Jaguars
(11) New England Patriots
(17) Baltimore Ravens
(8) Green Bay Packers
(16) New Orleans Sains
(12) Indianapolis Colts
(20) Chicago Bears
(21) New York Jets
(18) Arizona Cardinals
(19) Minnesota Vikings
(22) San Franscisco 49ers
(23) Seattle Seahawks
(24) Atlanta Falcons
(26) Cleveland Browns
(25) Miami Dolphins
(27) Houston Texans
(29) Oakland Raiders
(31) Kansas City Chiefs
(28) Cincinnati Bengals
(30) Detroit Lions
(32) St. Louis Rams

Jimmy's Dignity

10-03-2008, 05:28 PM

Giants cut Plaxico's fine in half...still suspended for Sunday (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3624266)

askewcore

10-03-2008, 06:35 PM

I hope Manningham gets some action with Plax's absence. The way Hixon has been playing, we might not miss him so much.

JPetrucci23

10-03-2008, 06:45 PM

I hope Manningham gets some action with Plax's absence. The way Hixon has been playing, we might not miss him so much.

Hixon will be starting as the X receiver. We shall see if Manningham dresses, he was out most of the week with the flu.

Jimmy's Dignity

10-03-2008, 07:21 PM

Who knows...maybe Sinorice Moss will show why we bothered to draft him

Jimmy's Dignity

10-05-2008, 02:09 PM

DJ Evel Ed

10-05-2008, 02:16 PM

Announcer said Plaxico caught that one. He's NOT PLAYING !!!!!!!

Ronreddog

10-05-2008, 02:19 PM

sucks for Hasselbeck, but maybe that means they'll post pictures of his MRI results on that Seahawks site...

oh man, what a fucking beautiful run that was...pisser he decided to cut it back inside, he could have gone all the way
:siren Wooo!!!!! Hixon! LOVE IT!!! :siren

What happened with Hasselback? I don't have the game here. :(

Announcer said Plaxico caught that one. He's NOT PLAYING !!!!!!!

That must have been pretty funny.

GO GMEN!

Jimmy's Dignity

10-05-2008, 02:36 PM

DJ Evel Ed

10-05-2008, 02:39 PM

Hixon fired up today!

Ronreddog

10-05-2008, 02:40 PM

Hasselbeck got high-lowed by Tuck & Cofield...turns out he's fine, came back out for the next series

:siren JACOBS!! :siren

love seeing a 3 yard td run by him...Amani looked damned good on that last drive, he had 2 pretty big catches

Thanks, JD.

I have the Game Center up on my laptop, and saw Hasselbeck was injured. Giants look like they are moving the ball pretty well against the Seahawks.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

10-05-2008, 02:59 PM

game looks good so far. Manningham broke like 5 tackles on that short pass. and Hixon's doing a bang-up job in Plax's place. Giants look like they're having a field day against the Seahawk's D.

Ronreddog

10-05-2008, 03:02 PM

WOW, 24-3 GMEN! I wish I was out watching this one, just too tired from drinking last night to go to a bar.

Eli looks like he is having some game so far: 11/13 190 1 0

GLENN_THE_TOOL

10-05-2008, 03:14 PM

hope Hixon's alright after that helmet-to-helmet shot.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

10-05-2008, 04:04 PM

wow, look at the effort from Dockery on that interception! 4 Seahawks touched him before he got taken down.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

10-05-2008, 04:26 PM

they've pulled out Manning and are giving Carr some field time. Jacobs still tearing into the Seahawk's defense.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

10-05-2008, 04:31 PM

44-6 Giants in the 4th quarter. i don't think i've ever been as confident in a Giants offense as i am now.

Steam

10-05-2008, 04:31 PM

Just a fucking great display thus far by the Giants. Really love to see them firing on all offensive cylinders like this.

Steam

10-05-2008, 04:33 PM

44-6 Giants in the 4th quarter. i don't think i've ever been as confident in a Giants offense as i am now.

They had some pretty impressive games back in '99/'00 but this team is just much more potent and have much more depth. If they can keep all of those wr's productive it will be scary how much they can grow.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

10-05-2008, 04:40 PM

They had some pretty impressive games back in '99/'00 but this team is just much more potent and have much more depth. If they can keep all of those wr's productive it will be scary how much they can grow.

oh i remember when they blew out Minnesota in that NFC Championship game. i was so happy to watch that overrated Vikings team get completely shut out.

SurlyTruckDrivr

10-05-2008, 04:46 PM

Fuck fox, they switched out after the 3rd quarter to the Skins-Sheagles

warm weather is nice, but living out of market isn't

GLENN_THE_TOOL

10-05-2008, 04:51 PM

game over, Giants are still unbeaten. i don't think their position on the power rankings will be changing this week.

Ronreddog

10-05-2008, 05:07 PM

game over, Giants are still unbeaten. i don't think their position on the power rankings will be changing this week.

Fucking right, number 1 in the rankings, and the only undefeated NFC team left!

What a great game, from what I followed on nfl.com, great stats for Eli and Jacobs!

GO BIG BLUE!!!

GLENN_THE_TOOL

10-05-2008, 05:10 PM

oh, and what have we learned this week? well the Seahawks fans talked a lot of shit on their message board, and how do the Giants respond? by demolishing and embarrassing the Seahawks. they even took out Eli and still scored on them. just another group of assholes the Giants have shut up.

askewcore

10-05-2008, 05:15 PM

That was a fucking thrashing. The back-ups even smoked those fucking dirty bums. I'm so glad we mushed them, I cant stand the Seahawks, and the fact that we always have to go play in their shitty, rainy garbage field with their stupid fans. Bout time they came to NY and got their balls kicked in.

JPetrucci23

10-05-2008, 07:44 PM

boo
fucking
ya!!!!!!!!!!!!

JPetrucci23

10-05-2008, 07:46 PM

Who knows...maybe Sinorice Moss will show why we bothered to draft him

:bigok

caniseeyourtaint

10-05-2008, 08:53 PM

Fuck fox, they switched out after the 3rd quarter to the Skins-Sheagles

warm weather is nice, but living out of market isn't

Psssst...check your PM :action-sm

Jimmy's Dignity

10-05-2008, 09:24 PM

okay, who is going to photoshop Pierce tackling that entire shitty city? Just have him come in and take down the Space Needle

Jimmy's Dignity

10-06-2008, 10:47 AM

hope Hixon's alright after that helmet-to-helmet shot.Yeah, that was an ugly ugly hit. Hopefully he's alright. I was glad that they didn't bring him back into the game after that

wow, look at the effort from Dockery on that interception! 4 Seahawks touched him before he got taken down.That was a hell of a play, I was hoping he'd be able to take it all the way back for 6. What's fucked up is that's only the 2nd turnover the Giants D has forced/made all season
http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/6ce2f4af-8115-4421-8091-33f2815e3b3c.jpg
That was a fucking thrashing. The back-ups even smoked those fucking dirty bums. I'm so glad we mushed them, I cant stand the Seahawks, and the fact that we always have to go play in their shitty, rainy garbage field with their stupid fans. Bout time they came to NY and got their balls kicked in.Agreed...I was sick and tired of us having to go out to Seattle.

4-0 for the first time since 1990
Yesterday = largest margin of victory since 1972 (61-10 over the Eagles)

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/6c1bf567-8270-47ef-aa28-5c5cf2a15a79.jpg
:haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7:

and what the hell, why didn't I ever sit next to someone like this?
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2008/10/06/gal_giants-seattle_7.jpg

fucking great picture
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2008/10/06/gal_giants-seattle_14.jpg

Jimmy's Dignity

10-07-2008, 03:29 PM

ESPN NFL Power Rankings: Week 6 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=6)

(1) New York Giants
(2) Tennessee Titans
(6) Washington Redskins
(3) Dallas Cowboys
(5) Pittsburgh Steelers
(7) Carolina Panthers
(11) Denver Broncos
(4) Buffalo Bills
(13) New England Patriots
(18) Chicago Bears
(17) Indianapolis Colts
(9) Philadelphia Eagles
(10) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(20) Arizona Cardinals
(14) Baltimore Ravens
(8) San Diego Chargers
(12) Jacksonville Jaguars
(19) New York Jets
(21) Minnesota Vikings
(24) Atlanta Falcons
(15) Green Bay Packers
(16) New Orleans Saints
(26) Miami Dolphins
(22) San Fransisco 49ers
(25) Cleveland Browns
(23) Seattle Seahawks
(28) Oakland Raiders
(27) Houston Texans
(29) Kansas City Chiefs
(30) Cincinnati Bengals
(31) Detroit Lions
(32) St. Louis Rams

ceeps04

10-07-2008, 10:24 PM

As a Giant fan the idea of the way they were going to handle that interview with Tyree was brutal. As a fan of great radio it was the perfect way to handle that situation. I ejected before I heard too much so I will never know how good/bad it really was.

Jimmy's Dignity

10-08-2008, 09:57 AM

x2...I'm with you. As soon as I heard "Tryee" & "book" I knew exactly what I had to do...<click>

JPetrucci23

10-08-2008, 10:24 AM

Giants & Eli working on new contract?

from BBI:

Giants Working on New Deal for Manning?: The Bergen Record is reporting that there is a rumor circulating that the Giants and QB Eli Manning’s agent are working on a contract extension that could be finalized before the 2008 NFL season is over. The deal supposedly will pass the 7-year, $99.2 million contract his brother signed with the Colts in 2004. Eli’s current contract is set to expire after the 2009 NFL season.

askewcore

10-08-2008, 06:51 PM

x2...I'm with you. As soon as I heard "Tryee" & "book" I knew exactly what I had to do...<click>

Did they rip his book up/ramone him? I'll have to hear that on the weekend replay...

Giants & Eli working on new contract?

from BBI:

I heard the number 15 million being thrown around.

GLENN_THE_TOOL

10-08-2008, 11:13 PM

yeah, i couldn't listen to the Tyree interview either because i knew it would be insanely cringeworthy. i knew the guy was a born-again, so it was leading a lamb to the slaughter.

the book sounds like a hoot though. the title's "More Than Just The Catch," but from the sound of it, there isn't a paragraph that goes without mentioning "The Catch". oofah.

JPetrucci23

10-12-2008, 10:21 AM

Giants & Chiefs are talking about a trade for Tony Gonzalez. Supposedly Giants have offered a 6th, Chiefs want at least a 3rd.

Jimmy's Dignity

10-12-2008, 10:43 AM

JPetrucci23

10-12-2008, 10:57 AM

christ...I heard that Gonzalez was inquiring for a trade "to a contender" and immediately was worried it was us. Although...putting a hall of fame tight end in our offense would be pretty fucking sweet :D

deadline's when? Tuesday?

yeah its Tuesday. My worry is that taking on his contract will impede the ability to extend Jacobs, Webster, Eli, etc.

JPetrucci23

10-13-2008, 12:03 AM

http://www.yardbarker.com/m/339/xl/romowned.jpg

JPetrucci23

10-13-2008, 12:04 AM

And here is a great read on Garafolo's blog about the offensive line:

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2008/10/new_york_giants_offensive_line.html

Shaun O'Hara ducked behind the wall outside the Giants' locker room, trying to make his 303 pounds small enough to hide in a little cubby hole long enough to scare his fellow offensive linemen.

"Rrrraaaaahhhh!" O'Hara growled when Rich Seubert, Chris Snee and Kareem McKenzie came around the corner on their way to practice.

"Rrrraaaaahhhh!" Snee and Seubert yelled back, neither of them having flinched. McKenzie, a few days removed from suffering a concussion, never broke stride and kept looking straight ahead.

David Diehl, who emerged from the locker room moments after O'Hara's failed scare tactic, let out a "Rrrraaaaahhhh!" as he adjusted his gloves -- perhaps just to feel like part of the group.

it continues from there.

Jimmy's Dignity

10-13-2008, 01:06 AM

hahaha...bunch of goofballs. Imagine the ragging & practical jokes that will ensue once the Pro Bowl rosters are announced?

Very very good day for the Giants, win Monday Night & they're up 2 games in the division :D

JPetrucci23

10-13-2008, 01:37 AM

Very very good day for the Giants, win Monday Night & they're up 2 games in the division :D

AND 2 games up in the conference!

JPetrucci23

10-13-2008, 01:01 PM

Romo out 4 weeks with a broken pinky!

Jimmy's Dignity

10-13-2008, 01:06 PM

aka "strained labia"

Edible Napalm

10-13-2008, 01:09 PM

Romo out 4 weeks with a broken pinky!

:haha7:

ceeps04

10-13-2008, 02:04 PM

Eventhough the Giants have won 12 straight on the road and 8 overall, old habits die hard. I am just now becoming comfortable with the thought that this team might be really really really good.

After all the shit that happened yesterday I am more nervous than ever about the game tonight. The last 10 games are going to be brutal. No slip-ups like the SKins had. Beat the teams you should beat.

Jimmy's Dignity

10-13-2008, 03:05 PM

I'm worried about the game tonight...Giants should destroy the Browns, but this has "trap game" written all over it

Ronreddog

10-13-2008, 07:38 PM

I'm worried about the game tonight...Giants should destroy the Browns, but this has "trap game" written all over it

I could not agree more, JD. They should destroy the Browns, but, there is always that "let down" game. I hope to see the Gmen keep the ball rolling, especially with Plax back.

GO BIG BLUE!!!

Steam

10-14-2008, 12:07 AM

I'm worried about the game tonight...Giants should destroy the Browns, but this has "trap game" written all over it

And the fucker nailed it.

Just an awful game thus far. And to top it off, my fantasy team lost this week too thanks to Braylon Edwards deciding to have a good game. Fuck.

distortion9

10-14-2008, 12:16 AM

Cunt fucking shit!!!

Steam

10-14-2008, 12:19 AM

Um yea

Jimmy's Dignity

10-14-2008, 12:31 AM

I want to go back and watch this game again just to see if the Browns actually did blitz on 97% of their defensive plays through the 3rd quarter.

The offensive line tried, but you can't block 8 with only 5 guys...the DL? The D-line has zero excuses...they got their balls handed to them. The Browns o-line may as well tell them that they're going home to go fuck their wives, kick their dogs, & shit in their toilets while they're at it

JPetrucci23

10-14-2008, 01:53 AM

ouch. that hurt, but hey, they weren't going 16-0. the NFL is crazy in that any given day, any team can beat any other team. hell, just look at what happened all over the league this weekend.

wtf happened to the defense though!? flat out AWFUL performance from them today. this was a very un-coughlin-like performance.

it's a good thing Tiki & Shockey are gone, because all we would be hearing from them is that we got out coached!

Just get back on track next week against the niners.

Salem

10-14-2008, 08:44 AM

hey, who is the undefeated team this year?

jinx!!!!

ceeps04

10-14-2008, 11:04 AM

There was something comforting and very familiar about watching that game last night. Eli throwing off his back foot, the defense not being able to get off the field on 3rd down. There was absolutely not one time in that whole game that Anderson was even hurried. I knew the streak of perfect performances would end eventually. Now I hope everyone will stop sucking our dicks so we can go back to flying underneath the radar where we do our best work.

Oh yeah....HOW THE FUCK DO YOU NOT MAKE THE WORST OFFENSIVE TEAM IN THE LEAGUE PUNT THE FUCKING BALL ONCE THE WHOLE GAME!!!!

JPetrucci23

10-14-2008, 11:08 AM

wow, it could have been MUCH, MUCH, worse, dodged a bullet:

http://i34.tinypic.com/ou77s9.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/33a8hgx.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/wtfwps.jpg

Jimmy's Dignity

10-14-2008, 12:04 PM

jinx!!!!
Eh, it was coming from a Jets fan....
wow, it could have been MUCH, MUCH, worse, dodged a bullet:

http://i34.tinypic.com/wtfwps.jpg

yeah, I saw that and was completely horrified

Jimmy's Dignity

10-14-2008, 06:35 PM

Eli has bruised chest (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3643575)

norton23

10-14-2008, 07:34 PM

The New England Patriots had a champaign toast last night after the loss,,,,,,In other news Tom Brady then downed a case of beer to numb the pain of watching the Patriots get killed on Sunday

Ronreddog

10-14-2008, 07:45 PM

My feelings were confirmed. My heart sank when Eli threw that INT, when the score could have been 27-21, and it turns out to be 34-14. Terrible decision making on Eli's part, and ceeps' post pretty much tells how I feel.

I could not watch past the INT return. I just hope they bounce back!

Jimmy's Dignity

10-15-2008, 09:54 AM

The New England Patriots had a champaign toast last night after the loss,,,,,,

well that's just silly...the Titans are still undefeated! :rolleyes:

Eli injury = nothing major (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/10/eli-injury-is-nothing-major-1.html)

X-rays & MRI on his chest came back negative...no breaks, no sprains, & it's all on his non-throwing side

Jimmy's Dignity

10-15-2008, 03:25 PM

ESPN Power Ranking: Week 7 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=7&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab5pos1)

(2) Tennessee Titans
(1) New York Giants
(5) Pittsburgh Steelers
(8) Buffalo Bills
(3) Washington Redskins
(4) Dallas Cowboys
(13) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(11) Indianapolis Colts
(14) Arizona Cardinals
(6) Carolina Panthers
(16) San Diego Chargers
(7) Denver Broncos
(12) Philadelphia Eagles
(17) Jacksonville Jaguars
(20) Atlanta Falcons
(18) New York Jets
(9) New England Patriots
(22) New Orleans Saints
(21) Green Bay Packers
(10) Chicago Bears
(19) Minnesota Vikings
(25) Cleveland Browns
(15) Baltimore Ravens
(23) Miami Dolphins
(24) San Francisco 49ers
(28) Houston Texans
(26) Seattle Seahawks
(32) St. Louis Rams
(27) Oakland Raiders
(29) Kansas City Chiefs
(30) Cincinnati Bengals
(31) Detroit Lions

GLENN_THE_TOOL

10-16-2008, 01:42 AM

now that was the Giants i remember, the Giants who lose a game to a team they should easily beat. the secondary looked like they didn't show up, and i could tell from early on when Cleveland was getting those big yardage completions. and the offense just couldn't get much going.

NikoBlaze

10-19-2008, 05:30 PM

looking good, couple mistakes here and there. next couple weeks will be the challenge

GLENN_THE_TOOL

10-19-2008, 05:57 PM

sloppy game, but a win's a win. they're still letting these pushover teams hang around for too long and trading touchdowns for field goals when they get in the red zone.

Jimmy's Dignity

10-20-2008, 01:36 PM

very sloppy game, but I'll still take a win....cannot possibly play like that against the Steelers next week and hope to win

Jimmy's Dignity

10-21-2008, 10:22 PM

ESPN NFL Power Rankings: Week 8 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=8)

(1) Tennessee Titans
(2) New York Giants
(3) Pittsburgh Steelers
(4) Buffalo Bills
(5) Washington Redskins
(7) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(10) Carolina Panthers
(9) Arizona Cardinals
(17) New England Patriots
(19) Green Bay Packers
(13) Philadelphia Eagles
(14) Jacksonville Jaguars
(20) Chicago Bears
(15) Atlanta Falcons
(6) Dallas Cowboys
(8) Indianapolis Colts
(11) San Diego Chargers
(12) Denver Broncos
(16) New York Jets
(23) Baltimore Ravens
(18) New Orleans Saints
(21) Minnesota Vikings
(26) Houston Texans
(22) Cleveland Browns
(28) St. Louis Rams
(24) Miami Dolphins
(29) Oakland Raiders
(25) San Francisco 49ers
(27) Seattle Seahawks
(30) Kansas City Chiefs
(31) Cincinnati Bengals
(32) Detroit Lions

JPetrucci23

10-23-2008, 04:56 PM

Plax temporarily hospitalized:

http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=128188&id=19

Plaxico Burress had to be hospitalized temporarily Thursday due to soreness in his neck.

Tests revealed no structural damage, but Burress' neck hasn't made much improvement since last weekend and his status for Week 8 is up in the air. "They say there’s nothing bone, no vertebrae, nothing like that," coach Tom Coughlin said. "He’s very sore, still stiff." Plax hasn't practiced yet this week and there's a real chance he'll have to sit out against Pittsburgh.

Jimmy's Dignity

10-23-2008, 05:08 PM

hmmmmmmmm....that sucks. Although, it does mean I can play Domenik Hixon without any qualms

JPetrucci23

10-26-2008, 01:30 PM

Plaxico is being a little bitch again and is now benched. He will not be starting, and might not play at all.

Jimmy's Dignity

10-26-2008, 01:37 PM

Nigga got paid...now he's being a pain in the fucking scroate. I can't believe that he's being this much of a faggot

askewcore

10-26-2008, 02:51 PM

Where did you guys see that? I cant find that info anywhere. Not doubting you, just wanna have a source for when I break the news to my buddies.

Jimmy's Dignity

10-26-2008, 03:14 PM

JPetrucci probably got it off of BBI (http://www.bigblueinteractive.com) I got it from him & heard hottie Rachel Nichols say it towards the end of Countdown

askewcore

10-26-2008, 03:30 PM

That is weak. I love Plax, but I wish he would get his act together. Or the team would stop suspending him for every little thing he does. I hope they just bench him the first quarter. I'm sure he wants to play pretty bad too, everyone likes playing against their old teams.

Jimmy's Dignity

10-26-2008, 05:31 PM

Okay, second offensive drive is MUCH better than the first was, but the Defense had BETTER fix their shit. They gave up a 35 yard run to Mewelde Moore...bastard
corner blitz into the backfield...no shock there, I fully expect that the Steelers will blitz continually all game

EDIT: Not a fan of having to settle for the field goal there. Jacobs fumble & Boss' juggling catch = boo

Sct Ptersns Twn

10-26-2008, 05:36 PM

Strap in kids this is getting good.................

Jimmy's Dignity

10-26-2008, 05:43 PM

Woooo!!! Needed that one! Great catch by Butler, too bad he fumbled it, thank God Kiwi grabbed it
stupid fucking penalty there by Hixon. I wonder if Plax is going to get put in in the 2nd quarter or what

we NEEEEEEEED 7 here. Okay, here's a must go on 4th. GODDAMNIT! I have no idea if they're going to challenge it, but if not they'd BETTER turn this around into 2. Okay, this is the good angle that we needed...I think he made the very front of the plane, but it's going to be a bitch to call it.

Boo. Need a 3 and out now. Perfect! Too bad Hixon got tackled by the punter...
aaaaaand we now have Plax in the game

booooooo field goal. Ugly kick too, but that fucking wind is howling

:arrrh: :arrrh: :arrrh: "Defenseless receiver" is a bullshit call

askewcore

10-26-2008, 07:37 PM

I feel like if we are gonna win this game it's gonna have to be on an Eli last minute game winning drive

Sct Ptersns Twn

10-26-2008, 08:31 PM

Good game blue. Fucking injury's suck the fat one.

ceeps04

10-26-2008, 09:34 PM

That was an awesome game to watch. The hitting was fucking brutal. Defense stepped up big in the 4th qtr. I am pretty sure Pitt had negative yards for the 4th.

Jimmy's Dignity

10-26-2008, 09:45 PM

that's 3 ugly ugly ugly ugly GAMES in a row. We got lucky today, that safety was a fluke! I'm looking forward to next week vs. Dallas :D :rockon"

I was at a bar for the 2nd half...showed up and there were 3 Steelers fans there. 1 Chick, 1 dude & 1 douchebag. They finished with a $110.96 tab...the tip they left my buddy who was tending bar? $0.00

GLENN_THE_TOOL

10-26-2008, 10:23 PM

Giants came out of Pittsburgh with a win? i'm relieved, had to head out when they were down 14-9 in the 3rd and things weren't looking good for them at the time. definitely looking forward to their game against a Romo-less Dallas next week. the Cowboys may have squeaked out a win today, but a Dallas team without Romo is too big of an opportunity for a win for the Giants (but then again, they did lose to the stupid Browns).

Jimmy's Dignity

10-27-2008, 11:56 AM

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7051/kiwisacksbenwh0.jpg
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1026/nfl_week8_top.jpg

some damned good pictures out there

Jimmy's Dignity

10-27-2008, 04:46 PM

I knew Kiwi had a good game, but I didn't realize he had 3 sacks. Looks like he's fully healthy now :D

The Pittsburgh Steelers’ league-best pass rush had no sacks and, according to the final stat sheet, no quarterback hits. In other words, they didn’t touch Eli Manning once. Not once. So game balls and raises to the entire offensive line. And Manning should buy them all a nice dinner, too.

JPetrucci23

10-27-2008, 04:54 PM

the fact that Eli wasn't touch is fucking amazing. what a job by the o-line!

and don't downplay this win. It was a HUGE win. On the road to beat the Steelers like that, just a huge win.

askewcore

10-27-2008, 05:51 PM

the fact that Eli wasn't touch is fucking amazing. what a job by the o-line!

and don't downplay this win. It was a HUGE win. On the road to beat the Steelers like that, just a huge win.

qft

If Fred Robbins keeps playing like this and doesnt make the Pro Bowl this year, the whole thing is garbage.

Tuck is on his way to Hawaii too, as long as he keeps it up.

Jimmy's Dignity

10-27-2008, 05:53 PM

speaking of which....Pro Bowl Balloting has opened (http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot)

I would not be surprised to see Robbins miss it or if he's lucky to get it as an alternate...I'm more so adamant that Snee, Diehl, & O'Hara all make it

JPetrucci23

10-27-2008, 06:01 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2008/10/27/2008-10-27_rev_al_sharpton_slams_post_for_racist_co.html

Al Sharpton has gotten his fat greasy head into sports reporting!

An outraged Rev. Al Sharpton is calling for the New York Post to take immediate action to address an Oct. 27 column that he calls "blatant racism" and a "media lynching."

Post columnist Steve Serby led his column Monday morning with "Good for Tom Coughlin. Good for Coughlin for tightening the noose around Plaxico Burress."

SurlyTruckDrivr

10-27-2008, 06:30 PM

askewcore

10-27-2008, 08:14 PM

I would not be surprised to see Robbins miss it or if he's lucky to get it as an alternate...I'm more so adamant that Snee, Diehl, & O'Hara all make it

They should have a good shot, they have respect around the league.

Al Sharpton has gotten his fat greasy head into sports reporting!

It's beyond ridiculous, but at least he is going after that cunt Steve Serby.

ceeps04

10-27-2008, 09:07 PM

Perch1019

10-27-2008, 09:16 PM

My friend just sent me this link. Holy shit is it disgusting.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Alzo9_KZlI

I went to the game yesterday with a couple of my giant fan friends. What an awesome stadium that place is. The downtown area is alot of fun for sports with all the bars and the 2 stadiums in that little area. There was a good amount of Giant fans there as well. As we were leaving, my friends and a couple other giants fans got together and started singing "we are the champions" while mocking all the steelers fans. I dont know how we didnt get our asses kicked

Jimmy's Dignity

10-28-2008, 02:50 PM

Oooohhh...holy shit that is a fucking awful & fluky injury. It's not like he rolled his ankle or anything like that, it's just "Do dododooo...<SNAP>" :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

Jimmy's Dignity

10-28-2008, 05:00 PM

Kevin Dockery out for a few weeks (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/10/cb-dockery-likely-to-miss-a-fe.html)

apparently he has the same injury that Goff had during the preseason...a fractured vertebra in his lower back...Goff was out for about a month, Dockery's injury isn't as bad so he won't be out as long

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es9x7F7pzps

JPetrucci23

10-28-2008, 05:05 PM

man was that personal foul on phillips pure bullshit. i love watching the team, especially coughlin, go ape shit when the flag is thrown.

Jimmy's Dignity

10-28-2008, 06:36 PM

ESPN Power Rankings: Week 9 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2008&week=9)

(1) Tennessee Titans
(2) New York Giants
(7) Carolina Panthers
(3) Pittsburgh Steelers
(5) Washington Redskins
(4) Buffalo Bills
(9) New England Patriots
(15) Dallas Cowboys
(6) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(11) Philadelphia Eagles
(10) Green Bay Packers
(13) Chicago Bears
(8) Arizona Cardinals
(20) Baltimore Ravens
(18) Denver Broncos
(14) Atlanta Falcons
(21) New Orleans Saints
(16) Indianapolis Colts
(19) New York Jets
(12) Jacksonville Jaguars
(17) San Diego Chargers
(24) Cleveland Browns
(22) Minnesota Vikings
(26) Miami Dolphins
(23) Houston Texans
(25) St. Louis Rams
(29) Seattle Seahawks
(27) Oakland Raiders
(28) San Francisco 49ers
(30) Kansas City Chiefs
(31) Cincinnati Bengals
(32) Detroit Lions

Jimmy's Dignity

10-29-2008, 04:59 PM

Great news (at least I think so): The Giants will not be wearing their awful red jerseys Sunday afternoon. In fact they're not going to be wearing them at all this year.

We can only hope that this is a permanent decision, though I have no reason to believe it is. Of course, if it is and you've already purchased a red jersey, let this serve as a lesson to you. Buy into these silly marketing gimmicks at your own risk.:clap9::clap9::yclap::yclap:

fucking hate those jinxed jerseys

And Osi says that he could have been ready to play (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2008/10/osi-i-could-have-been-ready-to.html)

The Giants have the NFL’s best pass rush with 26 sacks in the first seven games. Now try to imagine how much better it would be with a healthy Osi Umenyiora.

It can’t happen. But it could’ve happened, because Umenyiora said today that his rehab from knee surgery is “about a month ahead of schedule,” and he could’ve been on track to return to the field later this year.

And if you think that’s painful for you to hear, imagine how much it hurts him.

“It hurts. I’m not going to say it doesn’t hurt. It definitely hurts,” Umenyiora said. “Especially seeing the way things are going with the team and how they’re playing. It just looks like they’re having a good time. I wish I could do it.”

Of course, Umenyiora - who was at the ESPN Zone in Manhattan today with several of his teammates to play in a cross-country Xbox Live showdown to promote a new game, Far Cry 2 - knows that the Giants had little choice but to put him on season-ending injured reserve after his left knee locked up during the Giants’ preseason game against the Jets on Aug. 23. Once he opted for surgery to fix a problem that had lingered for about a year, there was only a slim chance that he would be ready in time for the playoffs.

It just so happens that he beat the odds. Umenyiora, the Giants’ lone Pro Bowler from last season, already started doing some jogging and some light cutting - two things he wasn’t supposed to do until late November. With no games to get back for, though, he won’t be doing any football-specific drills until the spring.

While it’s painful for Umenyiora to sit this year out, especially with the defending champs off to a 6-1 start, the sixth-year pro doesn’t have any regrets about opting for surgery, especially since his knee has been hurting since Opening Day last year. That’s when he believes he tore the meniscus in his left knee initially, and he played through the pain all year.

“That’s what I think. I think it actually tore then,” Umenyiora said. “You guys didn’t know about that (the Giants officially called it an “irritation” to his meniscus). But I was doing some things to keep the swelling down. Ronnie Barnes and the medical staff were doing a great job of taking care of me. But I played on that all last year.

“Then, when I fell this year, the part that was floating around got caught in the joint. That’s why I couldn’t straighten the knee out. They had to go in and take it out.”

Now, when Umenyiora returns next spring he believes his knee will be “stronger than ever.” And in the meantime, the injury has given him a chance to plan for his post-NFL career. He’s done some work with ESPN (Monday Night Countdown), was the color commentator on the United Kingdom broadcast of the Giants-Browns game two weeks ago, and tomorrow he’s taping a segment for Showtime’s Inside the NFL.

“This injury has afforded me so many other opportunities,” he said. “I’m starting to work on my second career. I couldn’t do that playing football. This was my sixth year. It’s not like I have 10 more years to play. I only have a short period left. It flew by. So that’s the silver lining.”

Of course, he also does rehab work on his knee for two hours a day, and then does his regular workout for another 90 minutes. So it’s not like he’s spending all his down time in a TV studio or booth.

One place you won’t find him, though, is hanging around the Giants’ locker room. “If I was around it,” he said, “I would go into depression.” He prefers to keep his distance, to keep his mind off football as much as possible.

But he promises he will be there, if necessary, for Super Bowl XLIII down in Tampa.

“When they make it,” he said, “I’ll be there.”