SPECULATION THREAD - Opie meets with an arch enemy? (MERGED + POLL ADDED) - The Unofficial Opie and Anthony Message Board

cigarsandscotch · 11-02-2005, 02:01 PM

I can't believe that no one has started this thread yet. I thought this was Wackbag, home of rampant speculation. Who was Opie refering to?

1) I assume it is a business related meeting, with someone who will in some way be a benefit to the show.

-This should eliminate Hoo Hoo. They work for competing companies and there is no way either one could help the other.

-Don Geronimo can also be crossed of the enemy list. He basically is a non factor in radio. Outside of DC, he is no one. There would never be any reason to meet with him.

-Dave Dickless would not be a likely candidate either. He just isn't any good at his job, and would not be of any use to anyone.

-Mancow? I don't see this happening either. He doesn't have enough of a following to pull anyone in to the station, or add anything to the show.

2) O&A were complaining about not having the right people around them to make big things happen.I don't feel Ben or Steve have anything to worry about, but the station isn't run well at times and could use someone who will get everyone on the same page. I.E. making sure R&F, and Jimmy knew they were broadcasting live.

Possiblilities?
- AL Dukes? Probably not. I don't think he is even considered an enemy, just someone Opie hates. The only thing in his favor is that Ron & Fez still keep in touch, and the guy did have some radio chops to him as far as producing and technical aspects of broadcasting.

-The Abercrombie & Fitch Midget? This is my pick. He may have been a scumbagish fidget, but he has connections and knows the business. He has no trouble with ruthless efficiency. How does he fit in with 202 ? I don't know.

-Don Buckwald? Stern's agent. He certainly is better that O&A's current agent. If there is someone that could put together a television deal, push for adequate promotion and sign the best contracts, it is him. It would be a hell of a conflict of interest though.

Any other ideas out there? I'm just fishing.

JoeyDVDZ · 11-02-2005, 02:07 PM

Hoohoo would NEVER stand for O&A being represented by Don Buchwald.

abudabit · 11-02-2005, 02:17 PM

I wouldn't completely eliminate Don & Mike from the list, they do have a loyal folllowing who would bring people to XM. And they have been heavily censored by thier company, so they might be irritated enough to switch to XM. But that probably isn't the case.

O&A have so many enemies. Rockhole, no way. That WNEW chick they got in a fight with early on (can't remember the name) - I could see her getting a job for the 70's channel, or maybe deep tracks. Leykis - I hope not. Dear God I hope not. Giuliani / Bill Clinton? That would be cool, although boring radio. Jackie? Could be, given the timing of Stern going to Sirius. Some "real radio" tool?

Ok, that's all I can think of on the top of my head. They, like most entertainment jocks, have a ton of enemies. Some would be good acquisitions, some wouldn't. Despite what you all think of Don & Mike, I really think it would be good to recruit them unless they are costly.

Redding · 11-02-2005, 02:18 PM

I dont care who the arch enemy is as long as it does two things:

1. Gets the show and the station running better

the production of the show is good, and who doesnt love ben, but if its someone like rick you know that hes gonna want to run the show again. Could it be a replacement for don wickland, he doesnt seem to be around much but once again hes a xm guy and was put in that position to get the station running better.

2. If it gets the show more exposure

if this is a move in the direction of marketing or changing agents it might be a good thing, bob eatman (sic) seems to be too stretched out to really give the boys the attention they need. This show should be all over the place and its so creative and out there compared to howard. They did say that they had some people talking to them since viacom split up so maybe its to get a tv deal and there meeting with a higher up from viacom that opie has a grudge with.

enough with my speculation hopefully opie will reveal whats going on tommorow.

BeersOnTheBoat · 11-02-2005, 02:19 PM

Paul Murcurio?...Na

Psycho Mark....not an enemy, right?

Um, how about Lykes? (sp?)

I got it, Jim Phillips' Hole has broken away will do afternoon drive on her own after R&F.

SGTMAGOO · 11-02-2005, 02:24 PM

I didn't hear the quote that you are going off of, wheather it's an arch enemy or compitition but perhaps could Imus be jumping to XM?? Hell it's a speculation thread right

cigarsandscotch · 11-02-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyDVDZ

Hoohoo would NEVER stand for O&A being represented by Don Buchwald.

I don't think that it's Buchwald, but I kept him on the possibility list because Stern can no longer force his hand. Howie signed for $500 million dollars. This is his last big paycheck, then he goes off into the sunset to sip bay breezes and suck Ralph's cock. He no longer has any leverage with Don. All he could do is complain about the lack of loyalty, but can't threaten to take his business elsewhere.

PorchMonkey4Life · 11-02-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SGTMAGOO

I didn't hear the quote that you are going off of, wheather it's an arch enemy or compitition but perhaps could Imus be jumping to XM?? Hell it's a speculation thread right

opie said arch enemy... Imus is a friend...

i think it is bringing rick back as the executive producer

abudabit · 11-02-2005, 02:29 PM

I guess they did kind of become personal enemies. I couldn't see him refering to Rick as an arch-enemy though. Arch enemy would be more like D&M or Stern or Leykis or former boston management.

jer · 11-02-2005, 02:29 PM

I have this feeling that it's Viacom, or specifically, Infinity broadcasting

BeersOnTheBoat · 11-02-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Big ASS Member

opie said arch enemy... Imus is a friend...

i think it is bringing rick back as the executive producer

Is Rick considered an ARCH enemy? I don't remember them really trashing the guy other than to put him in the barrel over the tsunami thing, which they actually liked.

Op emphesized ARCH enemy a couple of times. Who (other than Stern) does he hhhhaaaatttteeee?

Redding · 11-02-2005, 02:33 PM

Im going with Rick too because of the fact that Rick is Opie's Ex's brother. Some things could of been said that we dont know about that could of changed that relationship to the point that they both hate each other. They may not like each other but you have to admit that there best run at WNEW was when Rick was producing. I just hope that if they do bring him in that this wont be the end of ben as producer.

Boba Dousch · 11-02-2005, 02:34 PM

Did Opie say when he was going to reveal this?

abudabit · 11-02-2005, 02:35 PM

Yeah, but that doesn't make you an arch-enemy. Arch enemies are always trying to foil each others plans. Opie and Rick probably had an argument, called each other dick, and that was the extent of thier communication. That's not even an enemy. That's just two people who are pissed at each other. Enemies try to fuck thier foes up.

outsider142000 · 11-02-2005, 02:37 PM

It sounded as if E Lo wanted Opie to meet this person for lunch? Also he said had not decided if he want to meet with this person, until E Rock and the rest of the staff messed up.

Did anyone else hear it this way?

Boba Dousch · 11-02-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by abudabit

Yeah, but that doesn't make you an arch-enemy. Arch enemies are always trying to foil each others plans. Opie and Rick probably had an argument, called each other dick, and that was the extent of thier communication. That's not even an enemy. That's just two people who are pissed at each other. Enemies try to fuck thier foes up.

Good point sir, good point!

Redding · 11-02-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Boba Dousch

Did Opie say when he was going to reveal this?

no but he did bring up the point about firing people, and how R&F have no problems doing it, but they do. He could be meeting with E-LO to talk about who to hire and maybe E-Lo brought the idea to opie about bringing in someone who opie has a problem with. It doesnt sound like another show is coming or anything i think its someone behind the scenes that could do a good job but opie has a problem with.

DJNewStyle · 11-02-2005, 02:38 PM

Radio Arch-Enemies (These are all I can think of...)

The Radio Chick
Mancow
Don and Mike
Howard Stern
Tom Leykis

Not limited to the hosts.. anyone associated with the shows would be arch-enemies too.. I'd say that there's no way its Howard.

Manton · 11-02-2005, 02:43 PM

Ok, I'd doubt Al Dukes - isn't he being groomed for greatness at Infinity? Why would he take a step back?

Stern is at Sirius, done.

Radio chick is going to be on Stern's Sirius station, right?

Opie shit all over Mancow and Don and Mike on Monday, don't see why he'd about-face so soon, especially after calling them nothings in radio.

Leykis? Only possibility I can think of....

Steve Kingston (spelling) makes sense, too. But god damn, that would be a pride swallower.

judoGTI · 11-02-2005, 02:45 PM

haha that is some quality speculation up there. Nice thinking and use of colors.

What about them just meeting to get moved to afternoons? No? haha ok just more speculation then.

hahah

Chester'sLiver · 11-02-2005, 02:47 PM

I think he is meeting with Dr. Otto Octavius. We all know the classic battles those two have had over the years.
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What nothin?

Vanillathunder · 11-02-2005, 02:50 PM

Weird.

It's definitely not DnM as they just recently re-upped with Infinity, unless they have some sort of contract language that says they can get out of their deal if they're passed over when stern left.

It's got to be some sort of "big" deal if it involved a meeting.

They've got to be in NY or able to get there quickly if Op's going to meet them.

If they're an arch-enemy it has to be someone they have a running feud with on a grand scale and they don't exactly keep those quiet.

It likely is another personality as I don't think they'd bring Op in on the internal machinations of XM radio unless it directly affects the show. (still a possibility)

Who knows... they have many enemies, but not ARCH-ENEMIES. That's a short list. It also has to be someone somewhat powerful or important as Op probably wouldn't be considering it unless it was a palpable benefit to Xm or 202. Why take a meeting with someone they hate if they don't bring anything to the table?

It looks like they have plenty of execs at the dance, so it leaves it to on-air talent or producers/crew.

I doubt Rick is an arch-enemy, but after the fact he brought shit with him to Philly, who knows.

Lex and Terry? There has been talk around the campfire at wackbag about that, but what do we really know? They're also not in NY.

Real Radio? I doubt it.. unless it was the Monsters, but once again, not in NY.

Infinity? Possibly. They have a penchant for slapping around Howie lately and it would be a sweet victory for OnA. Then again, they have been meeting with their other divisions about things. It can't be TV because why would E-Lo be involved?

An entity at Infinity that fucked with them? Good chance, but I don't know who they went to war with over there.

DJNewStyle · 11-02-2005, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by outsider142000

It sounded as if E Lo wanted Opie to meet this person for lunch? Also he said had not decided if he want to meet with this person, until E Rock and the rest of the staff messed up.

Did anyone else hear it this way?

I heard that too! They messed up playing a song or a sound clip or something.. so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say FRED NORRIS. That would be an arch-enemy.. anything to do with the Stern show... it just won't be Howard.

Howard announced his move to satellite and never told any of his staff. He merely said "I would hope that you would all come with me..." Fred was silent.

TELL 'EM FRED!

deadfruitvirus · 11-02-2005, 02:52 PM

The one person I'm thinking of is Tom Leykis. He hasn't been mentioned in a while.

Vanillathunder · 11-02-2005, 02:53 PM

No, not fred. I doubt OnA want the spectre of "being hoo hoo's ripoffs" hanging over their heads and it only gives him ammo to say that about them. We know they're not, and it lends the situation to that.

I think we can safely assume it's not anyone affiliated with Stern.