Help Don Stugots

[Turtle]

As some of you know Don Stugots has an internet radio program. Don is a My Space friend of mine and he put up the following bulletin a few days ago. I told him I would post it on Wackbag to try and help him out. Please don't be assholes.

Thanks,
Turtle


HelpStugots

MySpace bulletin by Stugots
Sorry this is so long, but please read it because this is very important. Without your help, ThereIsNoRadio may very soon be no longer able to provide you with shows like Lenay D's Musical Saturday Mornings, The Don Stugots Experience, The Music that Mikey Likes, DJNewStyle, Suburban Shakedown, Kieska UK's Weekly Showcase, Hear It Loud Radio, RobOnt Radio, Hate the Radio, Fandick, and The Badmonkey Show/The Asylum. In fact, without your help, no other internet radio station will likely be around to provide them either.

To be clear from the beginning, I beleive that the artists that we play at ThereIsNoRadio deserve payment for their work. The vast majority of the artists played at TiNR are hand chosen and mixed in with more popular music as an effort to promote them and encourage sales of their music. Many of them are artists like Fishbone that you will not hear on traditional corporate radio and it is stations like ours that get the word out about these artists. The artists in our heaviest rotation fall into this category.

The Copyright Royalty Board announced on Friday the increase in royalties for internet radio. The board rejected all arguments made by webcasters and adopted the proposal from SoundExchange (the royalty collection agency created by the RIAA). The rates we have been paying for the last year are the 2005 rates. The new rates for 2006 will be charged to us retroactively and they will increase every year for the foreseeable future. By 2009, we will be paying over twice the royalty cost per listener that we paid in 2005, which is way beyond our means at this point without a serious change in the way we do things. I do not have any desire to fill the station up with constant commercial ads to make up the difference in royalties. We do not have the corporate backing to cover this cost.

The new royalty rates will look like this:
2006 - $.0008 per performance
2007 - $.0011 per performance
2008 - $.0014 per performance
2009 - $.0018 per performance
2010 - $.0019 per performance

1 performance = 1 play of one song multiplied by the number of listeners tuned in for any part of it.


At 100 connections almost constantly tuned in for the year, we will owe about $864 in royalty payments per month or $10,368 for the year. If we get to 1000 listeners for the majority of the day, we will owe around $103,3680 for the year. These numbers are just the 2006 rates at $0.0008 per performance. As you can see, by 2008 at $0.0014 per performance, we will owe about $3,024/month and $36,288 per year with just 100 listeners. We do not know yet what we will owe the RIAA in retroactive charges for 2006.

These rates do not include the other royalty payments we make to SESAC and ASCAP. These rates also do not include the cost of bandwidth and server capacity. This may very well destroy not just ThereIsNoRadio, but also all non-corporate backed LEGAL internet radio. This will not affect the hundreds of thousands of internet radio stations operating illegally without paying royalties.

Everyone involved in ThereIsNoRadio is here only for their love of radio and none of us make a dime from it. As you can see from the above, we spend money to make these shows possible without any expectation of compensation.

What can you do?
Write to, or
Call your Representatives: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Call your Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm
Call the Copyright Royalty Board: http://www.loc.gov/crb/contact/

Let them know that if they support this, they are willfully supporting the destruction of free and independent media, the interests of big business, and the silencing of our voices. Make sure they understand that they will not be receiving your vote if they refuse to intervene on behalf of small webcasters nationwide and force the Copyright Royalty Board and the RIAA to come up with reasonable royalty rates that do not threaten the existance of non-corporate owned internet radio. These rates only hurt those of us operating within the law. They do not do anything to stop piracy and they will not stop the pirate internet radio stations that continue to operate without paying royalties now.

Thank you all for supporting ThereIsNoRadio for as long as you have. I sincerely hope you will be able to continue that support.


For more information please also visit:
SaveNetRadio.org

thepetitionsite.com

[DonTheTrucker]

The RIAA must be stopped. But I don't think we'll beat them here. It's sad that a lot of people who do this just as a hobby are going to be victimized.

The only way to beat the RIAA is for someone to give more money to the politicians than they are.

[Turtle]

bump

[Don_Stugots]

thanks for the support Turtle. All of us are doing this for the fun of doing it. We spend our own money to put these shows out and do not make anything for it. What the RIAA is trying to do is get paid from something that doesnt generate revenue. Bastards.

[Turtle]

Bump

You fuckers get off your ass and help out.

And don't be as dick.

[DonTheTrucker]

Why can't someone with real money stand up to these fuckers? If Napster had done that, we wouldn't have these problems.

I blame Metallica.

[MJMANDALAY]

Originally Posted by Turtle

As some of you know Don Stugots has an internet radio program. Don is a My Space friend of mine and he put up the following bulletin a few days ago. I told him I would post it on Wackbag to try and help him out. Please don't be assholes.

Thanks,
Turtle


HelpStugots

MySpace bulletin by Stugots
Sorry this is so long, but please read it because this is very important. Without your help, ThereIsNoRadio may very soon be no longer able to provide you with shows like Lenay D's Musical Saturday Mornings, The Don Stugots Experience, The Music that Mikey Likes, DJNewStyle, Suburban Shakedown, Kieska UK's Weekly Showcase, Hear It Loud Radio, RobOnt Radio, Hate the Radio, Fandick, and The Badmonkey Show/The Asylum. In fact, without your help, no other internet radio station will likely be around to provide them either.

To be clear from the beginning, I beleive that the artists that we play at ThereIsNoRadio deserve payment for their work. The vast majority of the artists played at TiNR are hand chosen and mixed in with more popular music as an effort to promote them and encourage sales of their music. Many of them are artists like Fishbone that you will not hear on traditional corporate radio and it is stations like ours that get the word out about these artists. The artists in our heaviest rotation fall into this category.

The Copyright Royalty Board announced on Friday the increase in royalties for internet radio. The board rejected all arguments made by webcasters and adopted the proposal from SoundExchange (the royalty collection agency created by the RIAA). The rates we have been paying for the last year are the 2005 rates. The new rates for 2006 will be charged to us retroactively and they will increase every year for the foreseeable future. By 2009, we will be paying over twice the royalty cost per listener that we paid in 2005, which is way beyond our means at this point without a serious change in the way we do things. I do not have any desire to fill the station up with constant commercial ads to make up the difference in royalties. We do not have the corporate backing to cover this cost.

The new royalty rates will look like this:
2006 - $.0008 per performance
2007 - $.0011 per performance
2008 - $.0014 per performance
2009 - $.0018 per performance
2010 - $.0019 per performance

1 performance = 1 play of one song multiplied by the number of listeners tuned in for any part of it.


At 100 connections almost constantly tuned in for the year, we will owe about $864 in royalty payments per month or $10,368 for the year. If we get to 1000 listeners for the majority of the day, we will owe around $103,3680 for the year. These numbers are just the 2006 rates at $0.0008 per performance. As you can see, by 2008 at $0.0014 per performance, we will owe about $3,024/month and $36,288 per year with just 100 listeners. We do not know yet what we will owe the RIAA in retroactive charges for 2006.

These rates do not include the other royalty payments we make to SESAC and ASCAP. These rates also do not include the cost of bandwidth and server capacity. This may very well destroy not just ThereIsNoRadio, but also all non-corporate backed LEGAL internet radio. This will not affect the hundreds of thousands of internet radio stations operating illegally without paying royalties.

Everyone involved in ThereIsNoRadio is here only for their love of radio and none of us make a dime from it. As you can see from the above, we spend money to make these shows possible without any expectation of compensation.

What can you do?
Write to, or
Call your Representatives: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Call your Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm
Call the Copyright Royalty Board: http://www.loc.gov/crb/contact/

Let them know that if they support this, they are willfully supporting the destruction of free and independent media, the interests of big business, and the silencing of our voices. Make sure they understand that they will not be receiving your vote if they refuse to intervene on behalf of small webcasters nationwide and force the Copyright Royalty Board and the RIAA to come up with reasonable royalty rates that do not threaten the existance of non-corporate owned internet radio. These rates only hurt those of us operating within the law. They do not do anything to stop piracy and they will not stop the pirate internet radio stations that continue to operate without paying royalties now.

Thank you all for supporting ThereIsNoRadio for as long as you have. I sincerely hope you will be able to continue that support.


For more information please also visit:
SaveNetRadio.org

thepetitionsite.com

That really Fuckin Blows.

[Turtle]

bump

[jclintsma]

Stugots is the best.

[SOS]

This is horrible and shows when an oligopoly or monopoly exists in corporations and government institutions: they can charge whatever for a subpar product.

[Budyzir]

The RIAA is facing a losing battle that they will never win. The problem is that they are too stupid to realize it and develop a new distribution model where everyone is happy. Like a struggling soul trapped in quicksand, they don't realize that the distribution venues for music have shifted in a massive manner. Sooner more than latter, the RIAA will be no more but, artists that produce music we like will thrive. The only change will be that the bean counting stooges who call themselves "music executives" will be out of a job.

[jclintsma]

Be sure to tune in this week.
Sunday 5-7p on thereisnoradio.com
Help my budday out.

[SavageHenry]

Going to check it out today.

Probably a stupid question, but what happened with Lenay?

[jclintsma]

Originally Posted by SavageHenry

Going to check it out today.

Probably a stupid question, but what happened with Lenay?

Yea check Don Out great show.
As far as I know Lenay is still on I think the show was a replay Saturday Because she was sick.

[jclintsma]

Be sure to down load this weeks show from Itunes or myspace.com/donstugotsx

[flyerfan116]

Originally Posted by jclintsma

Yea check Don Out great show.
As far as I know Lenay is still on I think the show was a replay Saturday Because she was sick.

Sick...or crying her sweet little eyes out because of mean ol' Fezzie?

[HummerTuesdays]

I have a question...are the royalty payments lower from other groups, like SESAC and ASCAP? I'm not sure how this all works.

All I know is that I buy my music from eMusic because their prices are lower. What that means is that mainstream artists that are (for example) iTunes exclusive, don't get any of my money but I am supporting indy labels. Is there a way to say "Fuck you CRB & your artists, we're going to support those that have fair pricing?"

I'd be more than happy to write to those people, I just want to be more informed about how this works.

[jclintsma]

New show this sunday @5 on thereisnoradio.com

[jclintsma]

The stugots Easter show this sunday. Be sure to tune in at 5pm on the east coast.
www.thereisnoradio.com

[jclintsma]

Just a reminder please be sure to logon and listen. Should be a great show.
Tonight @5pm on the east coast.

[jclintsma]

Remember to log on tonight To the Experence With Stugots
To get up to date with the show click here.

[jclintsma]

Originally Posted by jclintsma

Remember to log on tonight To the Experence With Stugots
To get up to date with the show click here.

reminder

[richwithhatred]

If anyone is interested, The Don Stugots Experience has been picked up by The CMS Radio Network online - www.cmsradionetwork.com.

Other shows on the station include:

Next with J-Dubs & El Jefe
Smodcast With Kevin Smith
The Classic Metal Show (classic style metal and raw comedy like most of you like)
The Hairball John Radio Show
The Vault Of Metal
Red & Jerry's Rockin' Metal Revival

And all of what we would call "Lil Jimmy Metal" in between - Ozzy, Kiss, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, etc.

[Snotbag]

Stugots has left thereisnoradio

[Arch Stanton]

Stu is great and a friend. Best success to Stu and the show.