do ya think Hillary will have Obama killed?

[Earth2murf]

that sneaky cunt will not go away...She will try to get the Vip position and have him shot...the ole' lone gunman.she wont be happy till there are race riots..she will not go away...

[NoSurviivors]

The 90's called. they want their political scare rhetoric back.

Better get to it or Janet Reno is gonna fuck your mother.

[Ballbuster1]

Why not? She has a good track record. She's already killed her campaign.

[mendozathejew]

yeah shed shoot him point blank then drag him into a park and make it look like a suicide.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

a murder suicide would be awesome

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Originally Posted by SurlyTruckDrivr

a murder suicide would be awesome

I concur.

[NoSurviivors]

(Insert Jimcy quote here)

[Jerry1]

Little story that this thread reminded me of...

Many blacks worry about Obama's safety By DAVID CRARY, AP National Writer
2 hours, 4 minutes ago



NEW YORK - For many black Americans, it's a conversation they find hard to avoid, revisiting old fears in the light of bright new hopes.


They watch with wonder as Barack Obama moves ever closer to becoming America's first black president. And they ask themselves, their family, their friends: Is he at risk? Will he be safe?

There is, of course, no sure answer. But interviews with blacks across the country, prominent and otherwise, suggest that lingering worries are outweighed by enthusiasm and determination.

"You can't have lived through the civil rights movement and know something about the history of African-Americans in this country and not be a little concerned," said Edna Medford, a history professor at Washington's Howard University.

"But African-Americans are more concerned that Obama get the opportunity to do the best he can," she added. "And if he wins, most of us believe the country would do for him what it would do for any president, that he will be as well protected as any of them."

Clyde Barrett, 66, a longtime U.S. Labor Department employee now retired in Tampa, Fla., says he often hears expressions of concern for Obama's safety. One young acquaintance, Barrett said, declared he wouldn't even vote for Obama for fear of exposing him to more danger.

"To me that's a cop-out, where you can't take a stand and support someone because you fear for his safety," Barrett said. "I don't have any apprehension ... We've got to go ahead and persevere."

For many older blacks, the barometer for gauging hopes and fears is the 1968 assassination of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

But concern about Obama's safety transcends racial lines. He has white supporters who see him as an inspiring, youthful advocate of change in the mold of Robert F. Kennedy, and they are mindful of Kennedy's assassination just two months after King's.

Pam Hart, the principal of a multiracial elementary school in the Philadelphia suburb of Cheltenham, said she is struck by the contrast between some of the black students there, innocently excited about Obama's candidacy, and the more anxious perspective of older people who lived through the violence of the 1960s.

"My 70-year-old aunt — every time I call her, she says she's really afraid Obama is going to be assassinated. She is so worried that history will repeat itself," said Hart, who is 40. "I understand why she's afraid, but I feel we live in a different world now."

Bruce Gordon, a New York-based business leader and former president of the NAACP, also feels the climate has changed dramatically — as evidenced by the strong nationwide support that Obama is receiving from whites as well as blacks.

Gordon felt differently back in the mid-1990s, when Gen. Colin Powell was weighing a run for the presidency, and Powell's wife, Alma, was among those voicing concern about his safety.

"When Powell decided not to run, I said to myself, 'Good,' because I thought someone would kill him," Gordon recalled. "This time, I think that if, out of fear, we keep our most talented people from running for office, it will never happen.

"Yes, there's a risk, but I would never want it to be in the way," Gordon added. "In running, Barack Obama has to accept the fact that he faces a risk. And yes, we pray for him."

Obama received Secret Service protection last May — the earliest ever for any presidential candidate. At the time, federal officials said they were not aware of any direct threats to Obama, but Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin — who was among those recommending the Secret Service deployment — acknowledged receiving information, some with racial overtones, that made him concerned for Obama's safety.

Obama's campaign, invited this week to comment on the concerns felt by many blacks, referred to a speech given by the candidate's wife, Michelle, to a mostly black audience in South Carolina last fall.

"I know people care about Barack and our family. I know people want to protect us and themselves from disappointment," she said, before urging people to cast fear aside.

"If you're willing to heed Coretta Scott King's words and not be afraid of the future ... there's no challenge we can't overcome," she said.

Obama himself, while acknowledging that his family and friends are concerned about his safety, has drawn a contrast with King.

"He didn't have Secret Service protection," Obama told TV host Tavis Smiley last fall. "I can't even comprehend the degree of courage that was required, and look what he did."

Sherry Miles, 45, of Madison Heights, Va., said she's had sobering talks about Obama's safety with her friends and her mother.

"People who want to bring drastic change bring a certain fear among those who don't want change," Miles said. "You look back at our history, and all of the people who tried to bring about change were killed or threatened."

Miles, who works for Virginia's Department of Mental Health, said she was troubled listening to a recent local radio show in which one female caller termed Obama "the devil" and falsely asserted that he was Muslim.

"It's ill-informed people like her who concern me," Miles said. "I'm very pleased that Obama is there, doing so well. But at the same time I'm fearful someone will try to hurt him."

Bryan Monroe, Chicago-based editorial director for Ebony magazine, said the risk faced by Obama "is in the back of people's minds," but that their worries are often superseded by excitement that he could win. Their No. 1 question, Monroe says, "is could this really happen in our lifetime?"

Yvonne Scruggs-Leftwich, a former executive director of the Black Leadership Forum, noted that political leaders of any race face risks in a society where mass shootings and other violence by aggrieved or deranged assailants is all too common.

It is troubling, she said, to acknowledge such dangers at the very moment when Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton are demonstrating the historic opportunities available to blacks and women.

"We cannot be crippled by fear. That's the overwhelming emotion in the African-American community," Scruggs-Leftwich said. "We have to do the American thing: We buckle up and keep going."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080222/...a_safety_fears

[mendozathejew]

next time you see him on tv, shaking hands, look at his secret service agents. they are monsters, and much more intense than you typically see. and thats only what we can see. His protection is more than capable

[mascan42]

Originally Posted by Jerry1

Little story that this thread reminded me of...



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080222/...a_safety_fears

Some people have been watching season 1 of 24 too much.

[CougarHunter]

Oh man, why don't you fuckin' stop it? Shit, this is too fuckin' big for you, you know that? Who did the president, who killed Obama, fuck man! It's a mystery! It's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma! The fuckin' shooters don't even know! Don't you get it?

[LiddyRules]

Originally Posted by CougarHunter

Oh man, why don't you fuckin' stop it? Shit, this is too fuckin' big for you, you know that? Who did the president, who killed Obama, fuck man! It's a mystery! It's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma! The fuckin' shooters don't even know! Don't you get it?

JFKFC?

[Cunt Smasher]

We can only hope some dope addled racist skinhead outlaw biker rogue agent lone gunman black panther with a conspiracy to blame whitey for it and start helter skelter will not miss when he gets his shot. I don't mind the fact he's black,I fucking detest liberals.

[Jerry1]

Originally Posted by BigDickGuzinya

We can only hope some dope addled racist skinhead outlaw biker rogue agent lone gunman black panther with a conspiracy to blame whitey for it and start helter skelter will not miss when he gets his shot. I don't mind the fact he's black,I fucking detest liberals.

If that happens then I only got two words for ya:


RACE WAR!!!!!!!

[Absolutely]

The idea of him being killed or shot really never entered my mind. However, when you talk to people about the campaigns, I hear about 1 in 5 people saying "You know what, I really think something is going to happen to him"

I went to the Obama rally in St.Louis at the EDJ Dome, where the Rams play. I was shocked at how there was basically no security AT ALL.

There was one entrance, and the entrance was just the doors, nobody at the doors, no police at the doors, no secret service, nothing. You just walked right in.
The line was wrapped around the outside of the building with no real start. I heard that there were metal detectors at the start, but I like many many others jumped the line.

Then he was right in the middle of the dome, where if you wanted to you could get about 30 feet away. It was insane.

They check purses, water bottles, bags, backpacks, etc at the sporting events but for Obama... Just come on it, we won't pat you down or search you or anything.

You literally could have had a shotgun in your pants leg, limped in awkwardly and made your way to the front. It was weird.

[THE FEZ MAN]

Originally Posted by Jerry1

If that happens then I only got two words for ya:


RACE WAR!!!!!!!

[wes mantooth]

I hope no one kills him. I've already heard him referred to as Obamessiah. The lunacy would go off the charts if he's murdered. Why, every city in America will have an Obama Boulevard in no time. Sure they would be in the shittier parts of town but still.

[Schmed]

Originally Posted by wes mantooth

I hope no one kills him. I've already heard him referred to as Obamessiah. The lunacy would go off the charts if he's murdered. Why, every city in America will have an Obama Boulevard in no time. Sure they would be in the shittier parts of town but still.

I betcha if he did get killed, it's a black man that would've kill him.

[Schmed]

Originally Posted by mendozathejew

next time you see him on tv, shaking hands, look at his secret service agents. they are monsters, and much more intense than you typically see. and thats only what we can see. His protection is more than capable

My wife's cuz was a secret service agent, most of his detail was in NYC, and he was a typical job hating motherfucker like the rest of us.

[HummerTuesdays]

Originally Posted by wes mantooth

I hope no one kills him. I've already heard him referred to as Obamessiah. The lunacy would go off the charts if he's murdered. Why, every city in America will have an Obama Boulevard in no time. Sure they would be in the shittier parts of town but still.

Would it run parallel or intersect MLKB?

[Zona992006]

lets see how far down the reality trail you guys go. The more he looks lik he is going to win, the crazier shit becomes. This is funny.

[Kris_LTRMa]

Originally Posted by Absolutely

Then he was right in the middle of the dome, where if you wanted to you could get about 30 feet away. It was insane.

They check purses, water bottles, bags, backpacks, etc at the sporting events but for Obama... Just come on it, we won't pat you down or search you or anything.

You literally could have had a shotgun in your pants leg, limped in awkwardly and made your way to the front. It was weird.

Were the majority of those in attendance black? If so, then you have your answer as to why security wasn't tighter - they'd be crying racism.

my guess though is that security was very tight. The guy standing next to you was probably some sort of undercover, just trying to blend in.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Originally Posted by HummerTuesdays

Would it run parallel or intersect MLKB?

Considering he's only half black, it'll end up right on the border between the black and white neighborhoods.

[NoSurviivors]

Haven't stereotypes taught you anything? Obama is the one that's gonna pop a cap in some ass.

[Absolutely]

Originally Posted by kris72663

Were the majority of those in attendance black? If so, then you have your answer as to why security wasn't tighter - they'd be crying racism.

my guess though is that security was very tight. The guy standing next to you was probably some sort of undercover, just trying to blend in.

The crowd was about 50/50.
Everyone around me seemd to be "Normal", there were some older white guys you'd see every now and then. They were just walking around by themselves, but still.
No metal detectors, no purse searches, no pat-downs, nobody manning the entrance, etc.