$15 minimum wage plan fast tracked in Seattle

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$15 minimum wage plan fast tracked in Seattle

by LINDA BRILL / KING 5 News

Posted on December 19, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Updated Thursday, Dec 19 at 5:20 PM




The push is on to fast track a $15 an hour minimum wage in Seattle.

Seattle Mayor-elect Ed Murray has assembled a team of labor, business and elected officials to deliver recommendations by May and City Council action by July.

"We have a challenge before us. Is this going to be a city of the rich or is this going to be a city that is diverse?" said Murray.

The Seattle area hit the national stage on wage equality with protests by fast food workers and a vote in SeaTac to raise the minimum wage to $15.

"It may be much higher than that," said Murray. "It's one of the things we've gotta be open to."

The 23 person committee is co-chaired by Howard S. Wright, CEO of the Seattle Hospitality Group, who outlined the challenges the team faces to reach a consensus.

"There are people on the very small business end, who are totally freaked out by this and I also think there are people on the far right, who have said don't tell me what to pay people and I'm going to move by business out of the city limits," said Wright.

Newly elected Socialist Council Member Kshama Sawant has her own deadline for council action.

"Early April has to be our deadline if we are serious about putting it to the voters because that's how much time will be needed to collect signatures and put it on the ballot."

Murray said he wants to avoid a costly labor and business dispute over a ballot initiative.

http://www.king5.com/news/politics/Minimum-Wage-Plan-Fast-Tracked-236650591.html




Do these people really not understand how this is going to fuck the economy?

And I know there was another thread about this, but I can't find the damn thing.
 

Ballbuster1

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Say hello to higher prices and more unemployment.
 

MrAbovePar

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I wish states could put an entrance tax on folk. Have Boeing pay it when they relocate a skilled worker. The shitheads who have no talent whatsoever can fucking wilt and die in the town they took over. At this point, I'd go full tilt jury nullification if someone shot one of these worthless socialist politicians.
 

Hog's Big Ben

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Might as well start boarding up the fast food joints now.
 

the Streif

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It was nice knowing ye Seattle.
 

Begbie

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Should be interesting experiment...maybe we'll all be proven wrong and it'll be a smashing success.

lol.

I could totally see de Blasio pulling this shit in NYC though.
 

Floyd1977

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Yep, good. Let them be the guinea pigs.

And of course the irony is that the people they think they are trying to help will sink further into poverty. Oh wait, more food stamps and welfare will take care of that
 
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weeniewawa

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the minimum wage workers will soon not be able to afford to live in the city and will have to commute

then ask for higher wages to compensate for that

dummies
 

Atomic Fireball

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The people of Seattle control the means of production! Workers of Washington unite!
 
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As if small business owners are not getting their teeth kicked in enough as it is.
 
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How do they not realize they're the ones that are going to feel this, not to company.
 

Biff Hardslab

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Either the fast food places will have staff 2 people to do the work of 7 or they have to hope enough of their customers will pay $12.50 for a value meal to justify keeping the doors open.

So, in the interest of fairness (because that's what this is all about right? It's not fair that Shaqueefa doesn't get paid enough to afford an Excalate for a job that requires minimum skill) I should be making almost $70 per hour for a job that does require skill if this passes nationally.

Do these fucktards really believe the price of everything is going to stay exactly the same if this passes?
 

MayrMeninoCrash

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Either the fast food places will have staff 2 people to do the work of 7 or they have to hope enough of their customers will pay $12.50 for a value meal to justify keeping the doors open.

So, in the interest of fairness (because that's what this is all about right? It's not fair that Shaqueefa doesn't get paid enough to afford an Excalate for a job that requires minimum skill) I should be making almost $70 per hour for a job that does require skill if this passes nationally.

Do these fucktards really believe the price of everything is going to stay exactly the same if this passes?
The excuse I've always heard as justification for the wage increases without a corresponding inflational increase in product is that "CEO's are making millions, surely they will give up some of that to pay their workers". I'm guessing a lot of folks out there failed economics.
 

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Won't the companies just fire their minimum wage workers and hire people that can do the work worthy of $15 per hour?
 

domelogic

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Clarence Page says this is a no brainer:

Clarence Page: Why the right should support boosting minimum wage, too
Dec. 22, 2013 @ 11:13 PM

I’ve heard a lot of goofy arguments against raising the federal minimum wage. The silliest goes like this: “You want to raise the minimum wage to $15? Why not $50? Why not $100?”
Of course, that’s not a real argument. Yet I hear it a lot, which means it probably originates somewhere in the nation’s vast menagerie of conservative talk show hosts.
The answer, if this pseudo-argument deserves one, is that $15 is at least where the current minimum hourly wage of $7.25 would be if it had kept up with worker productivity since the 1960s, according to various experts.
For example, the liberal-leaning Economic Policy Institute estimates that, if the minimum wage had kept pace with productivity growth since 1968, as it did for the two decades before, it would now be $18.67 per hour. Ah, the good old days.
That figure makes President Barack Obama’s request for a raise to $10.10, after asking for $9 earlier in the year, sound modest.
Yet at the other end of the political spectrum you have conservatives like Rep. Joe Barton, a Texas Republican, who told National Journal that he would rather just get rid of the federal minimum wage altogether. “I think it’s outlived its usefulness,” he said, although he acknowledged that, “It may have been of some value back in the Great Depression.”
No minimum wage? It seems to me that America tried that before. It’s called slavery.
But whether Barton’s fellow Republicans share his extreme view or not, a minimum wage increase isn’t likely to have any easier time in the current Congress than most of this president’s other requests.
That’s a tragedy for millions of hard-working Americans who are having an increasingly tough time making ends meet — even as stocks soar to record highs on Wall Street.
Does it sound like I’m talking class warfare? Americans didn’t think so in the three decades after World War II, when the idea of wages keeping up with productivity had much more bipartisan support.
In the years from 1947 to 1969, the minimum wage actually did keep pace with productivity growth, according to the Center for Economic and Policy Research, another liberal-leaning Washington think tank. As recently as President George W. Bush’s administration, Congress passed a bipartisan minimum wage increase in 2007 that included tax breaks for small businesses. That’s not class warfare. It’s legislating.
Yet not all conservatives are opposed to raising the minimum wage. While Washington sounds gridlocked, the issue has produced productive alliances in various states and municipalities.
In California, fast-food workers and others who have been rallying nationwide for minimum wage increases, have found an unusual ally in Ron Unz. The conservative Silicon Valley businessman probably is best known for backing Proposition 227 in 1998, a ballot issue that eliminated bilingual education as it had been practiced in California schools.
Now the former publisher of The American Conservative magazine has submitted a ballot initiative to the California secretary of state that would raise the state minimum wage to $12 an hour in 2016 from the current $8.
His reasons? Strictly conservative, he points out. He sees it as an economic growth measure. It would put $15 billion a year into the pockets of workers who would spend it as “one of the largest economic stimulus packages in California history,” he told KQED radio. And it would be funded entirely by the private sector, he pointed out.
More controversially, Unz hopes that raising the minimum wage would help slow the flow of illegal immigration. “In effect, a much higher minimum wage serves to remove the lowest rungs in the employment ladder,” he wrote in the magazine he used to publish, “thus preventing newly arrived immigrants from gaining their initial foothold in the economy.”
That may be asking too much, in my view. History shows that immigration, legal or illegal, rises or falls according to how well the U.S. economy is doing.
But there’s no question that raising wages would make work in this country even more attractive, particularly to Americans who already toil in the bottom rungs of the income ladder. They deserve a raise.
 

mascan42

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You know, I'm not against raising the minimum wage. Everything's more expensive these days, and people need to be able to live on what they make without going on welfare. But a 50% increase is fucking retarded.

Most minimum wage workers are in the food service industry. It might not effect big chains like McDonalds so much, since their profits more than make up for it (although it would probably raise the price of a Happy Meal). But what about the corner diner? What about the waitresses who only get by on tips right now? The reason they're paid minimum wage is because the restaurant would fold otherwise.

They talk about employers being able to afford it, like everyone who employs people is a rich bastard lighting cigars with $100 bills. But they forget about the small businesses that make only modest profits, barely scrape by, or are already in the red. Make no mistake, raise the minimum wage by this much, and we'll instead have more people on unemployment because their employers went out of business.
 

the Streif

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Won't the companies just fire their minimum wage workers and hire people that can do the work worthy of $15 per hour?

Yes, it's called automation. And I'll be more than happy to travel to Seattle and install it and then leave taking my money that I earned with me.
 
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